Happy July 4th! God Bless America!


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  1. Mike E. says:

    Happy Independence Day everyone! Have fun, eat well, drink well, and stay safe!

  2. Ken says:

    Happy 4th everyone!

  3. wyoming85 says:

  4. wyoming85 says:

    Congrats Jahn!

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 9m9 minutes ago
    Kevin Durant is signing a two-year, $54.3 million deal with the Warriors with a Player Option for Year 2, per @ESPNSteinLine.

  5. Brian in NY says:

    Happy 4th of July! Mike, since this IS a Dolphins site, can you switch your image for Wyomings? I think it’s more appropriate for a Dolphins site.

  6. Tim Knight says:

    Happy 4th of July folks! Hope everyone has a nice day.

  7. stangerx says:

    Happy fireworks to all……time to start getting ready for the next major holiday though (an Labor Day don’t count).

    Is the Bills game on Oct 23 at one.
    We’ll get together the Sat night before and Chef Warren tailgate as usghe.
    We have a three-row block in Sec 315 on the aisle towards the 50. That’s on the 15 on the visitors side. They are just like last year’s ‘cept other end of the field.

    The Flying Pig
    Brian NY
    OD (+1)
    stanger (+1)
    Chef Warren (+1)
    Son (+5)
    Mike E (+1)
    Herd (+1)
    Al in MIA (+1)
    Toba (+1)
    Phindog (+2)
    sb7mvp (+1)
    getterdone (+1)

  8. olddolphan says:

    ME and Mrs. OD are spending a quiet but enjoyable 4th of July on a DAY OFF FOR ME!!–Usually I work on the 4th (local convention usually runs through the 4th but NOT this year.)
    Looking forward to the Marlins-Mets game starting at 4 PM. Mets definitely playing better than Miami right now. But, we’ll see. Ichiro now just 11 hits short of 3,000.

  9. Mike E. says:

    Maybe it’s me, but I can’t understand for the life of me why Granderson is back batting leadoff. I hate the lineup with him batting 1st, and with Harvey on the mound, who we can’t seem to score runs for, why bat him 1st? Puzzling to me. I love the lineup with just about anyone else they’ve batted leadoff better.

  10. olddolphan says:

    OK Mets Fans; Harvey makes a wild throw to home on what was a tailor-made double play AND THEN HE DOESN’T COVER HOME as the catcher retrieves Harvey’s wild throw!! –I’ll bet Terry Collins was a bit hot under the collar when he yanked Harvey from the game!! 6-0 Fish, in a game the Mets were favored to win!!

  11. herdfan says:

    Happy Independence Day everyone!

  12. olddolphan says:

    IT HAS BEEN a happy Independence Day, Herdfan, even though the Marlins blew a 6-0 lead to the Mets! Gotta have a bit of perspective. And I hope things are improving in your state after those unbelievable floods.

  13. Mike E. says:

    Great weekend, and now back to reality. Nice comeback by the Mets finished off a really nice July 4th weekend

    • Tim Knight says:

      They are truly the bizarro team.

      • Mike E. says:

        I’d have to say most teams are bizarre. They’re up and down, like most clubs have been. You might think they’ve turned a corner after the 5 game win streak, and I hope that’s the case, but I’m not sure.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah this team is totally unpredictable though. We’ve now beaten the Cubs 8 straight going back to the playoffs right?

  14. Mike E. says:


    I really like the lineup so much better with Granderson out of the 1 hole. They need a guy who can put pressure on the defense, pitcher. I’ve felt that way for a long time

  15. Mike E. says:


    It’s one of those enigmas, like why the Braves have our number this year. We definitely have the Cubs number, but I’m interested to see how we do against them in Wrigley.

  16. Al in MIA says:

    Good morning everyone; hope you had a nice day yesterday.

    I’m feeling the effects of churrasco & ballpark franks this morning (not pleasant for those passing by my desk) lol.

  17. Rhino says:

    5 years ago the GSW’s were a 23 win team. New ownership, overhaul FO…
    Before KD the only other ‘star’ free agents signed by Dubs were Baron Davis and Andre Igoudala.

    When KD agreed to sign, it was honestly surreal. I keep reading and watching and still can’t believe this has happened. Of all my favorite teams (Fins, A’s, Dubs) I thought the Warriors would be the LAST to figure it out, and Fins would be the first.

    No guarantee of championships, as this year proved, but it puts in position of opportunity. It feels truly amazing and I am having so much fun with my family in California (81 first cousins between Ventura and San Luis Obispo) all of whom, except me and one cousin, had been die hard Laker fans. Dubs owner Lacob says he would buy the A’s if they were for sale. 🙂 I wonder if he secretly likes the Dolphins as well?

  18. Mike E. says:

    I thought this was a Mets blog, what’s with the GSW???

  19. Mike E. says:

    I would like : RHP on the mound

    3B – Reyes
    SS – Cabrera
    CF – Cespedes
    RF – Granderson
    2B – Walker
    1B – Loney
    C – d’Arnaud
    LF – Nimmo

    With a LHP, switch Granderson and Walker

  20. Al in MIA says:

    Good times for you in this current GS era.
    They had a few fun teams that never amounted to anything great (RUN TMC …the Don Nelson 1 and 2 era)…
    I’m hoping the Fins find their way to this kind of new success.
    I don’t even remember what winning feels like. It’s crazy to think that at one time, it was automatic that Miami would make the playoffs and thus the argument was always “are we good enough to make it to the SB?”. Now we argue about being better than 8-8. I think this year they finally will get to double digit wins again :/.

  21. Mike E. says:

    I think Conforto will be fine. When his struggles lasted longer than he expected, he really started pressing which just exacerbated his issues. When he starts tearing up the minor leagues, they’ll bring him back up, but no rush really, especially if Nimmo is still doing well, and Reyes too.

  22. Mike E. says:


  23. olddolphan says:

    HEY MIKE E: –Did Stanton’s last home run land in YOUR back yard in Joisey?? –Holy SHIT, that was a MONSTER HOME RUN!! –THIS is the Stanton the Fish thought they’d signed to a long term deal, not the slumping Stanton they’ve had for most of this season. If Giancarlo can get his game cranked up, both on offense and on defense, the Marlins WILL HAVE A SHOT FOR A WILD CARD! –As Tim said a few days ago, “there IS talent on this team.”
    ME AND THE MRS. will be gone to Orlando for a convention sponsored by Florida’s statewide numismatic organization. I happen to be president of this organization, so I’ve got to be at the top of my game for a few days. (And, I’m running unopposed for another 2-year term.)–Talk to all you fine people Sunday or Monday.

  24. Mike E. says:


    It broke the window in my kitchen and knocked the bananas off the counter. At least I got a souvenir.

  25. Al in MIA says:

    Should be interesting race come next two months where the schedule gets division heavy.
    I don’t think the Mets and the Marlins will have it easy, especially since they got issues vs the Braves who are suppose to be the worst competitor in all of the NL and one of the 3 worst in all of the MLB.
    I see the Cardinals and Dodgers beating out the NL East teams.
    I just don’t see how the Marlins rotation will hold up.
    As for NY, i just don’t see them having enough offense.

    • Al in MIA says:

      I guess I shouldn’t count out Pittsburgh either but their bats need to wake up soon; especially McCutchen who is going through a career bottom.

  26. Al in MIA says:

    Just in case you want to see it again 🙂



    The best part of the towering HR is hearing the fans go “OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo” the minute it left the bat.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    The first Stanton HR was a bad pitch by Matz. You don’t throw a change up over the plate on 1-2 to a guy like him. The Mets pitchers have a habit of doing that rather than throw a waste pitch like a slider down and away or up and in. They seem to all believe in their stuff so much that they don’t always pitch smart.

    But good win for the Marlins to keep things close.

  28. The Flying Pig says:

    What’s up oinkers

    • Al in MIA says:

      Anxious on Wade’s decision 😦

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Who is Wade?
        I don’t know who that is
        sounds like a jerk

      • steveccnv says:

        He’s the guy that brings all of the leftovers from the buffets to the pig farms. One of the trucks crashed recently, so he wasn’t sure he was going to continue… 😛

  29. Al in MIA says:

    Saw this on twitter yesterday; a bit technical in terms of statistical analysis but I think most here can follow along on % differences between teams and utilization.


  30. wyoming85 says:

  31. wyoming85 says:

  32. The Flying Pig says:

    Good Ole Bobby McCain

  33. Al in MIA says:

    I’ve very optimistic about the secondary this season; More so than this past year.
    I’m just hoping the LB group can perform a step up above last year.

  34. Al in MIA says:

    Just saw this on twitter LOL

  35. Mike E. says:

    Marlins beat up the Mets good last night, but Mets win the series. Going to be a good race though the entire season I believe.

  36. herdfan says:

    I have to rant. Totally non Dolphins, non-football, non sports related. Unless the fact that hopefully all the people who play use toilet paper. WTF is going on with the TP situation in this country? Have we become so lazy that we need to have quadruple size rolls so we don’t have to change them so often? Forget the fact that my children NEVER put a new roll on the holder, no matter the size! But my issue with these gargantuan sized rolls is they don’t fit on the holder without rubbing the wall. PLUS, I have a holder that matches the rest of my bath fixtures to hold spare rolls. I’m considerate that way. Seems the QUAD rolls are too large to fit inside the spare roll canister. I’m fine with all the lazy asses out there having their quad rolls, put one of those monster rolls up in your home like they have in public restrooms if that’s your thing. My problem is of all the choices and brands at the store, they were ALL the 4X size. I must have stood there for 5 minutes looking for other sizes, but nooooooo, none to be found. I’m Pissed!!!!!….pun intended! 😉

  37. Ken says:

    TP for bunghole

  38. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Herd – I believe they still sell TP that isn’t a 4X roll. I know even the double rolls are pretty fat, and I LOL’ed at the kids NEVER putting the roll on the holder. My kids too. WTF, how lazy can you be?

  39. naplesfan2010 says:

    ancillary issue:
    Does one mount the tissue so that the new edge is over top or under bottom?
    Any engineers out there wish to speak to torque, any decor mavens want to chime in on aesthetics?

  40. Mike E. says:

    Not quite engineer pedigree, but I prefer to have the new sheet over the top.

  41. Brian in NY says:

    I’m not sure about engineers, but my wife prefers the TP over the top, so that’s the way it goes in my house.

  42. Phindog says:

    Whats this TP you are all talking about ?

  43. Al in MIA says:

    lol Herd.

    Definitely go over the top for practical reasons.
    You need space between the wall and the paper.
    Going underneath gives you a high probability of contact with the wall (very little distance between the paper and wall) when you go to tear the paper or even attempt to grab it for that matter.
    And to the tear part, it’s easier for me anyway to tear when its over the top (downward across motion pressing in somewhat) than from underneath where pulling is involved and excess rolling may occur.

  44. naplesfan2010 says:

    But if the new edge is under the roll, it always hangs free and one never needs to search for it by spinning the roll and thereby unrolling far more than is necessary. Kids just use it all anyway, thereby more frequently clogging the bowl (and we know they always call US to fix THAT), but we fastidious adults attempt to rewind the excess, which means the next person views “pre-owned” tissue, as they say in the used BMW business.

    Some avert this social faux pas by gouging at the roll with fingernails to free the mysterious edge, leaving unsightly evidence of recent human visitation of a more frantic nature.

    • Al in MIA says:


    • Al in MIA says:

      In theory, it hangs free and spinning to find the edge may not be necessary but i bet than in more than half the situations, people need to hold the roll to tear it which means that I’m going to spin off the exposed layer anyway (2 times) to avoid touching what someone else touched before.

  45. Al in MIA says:

    These probably are too big for you but this is what I use

  46. Mike E. says:


    The roll is a cylinder, therefore no proclivity to hang down easier either way, it just varies by how the person who last used it leaves it. It can hang down either way. 🙂

    • Al in MIA says:

      It’s not the hang part but the distance and direction of the human to it. When it is over the top, it hangs closest to the human. It faces the person and there is less ‘hanging’ distance needed to tear the sheet. I can tear the sheet with the edge right over the top but that is impossible when the roll is coming up from underneath. A human is more likely to pull the roll too much when its coming from underneath.

  47. Rhino says:

    1/4 of mlb all star starters (4 of 16) played for the A’s in 2014 or 2015. 😦 You know your baseball team sucks when you’re still reading NBA free agency reports at the mlb all star break.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Crazy stat.
      I play fantasy baseball and for some reason I drafted (auction style) four A’s on my team this year and have carried 5-6 before.
      Stephen Vogt, Khris Davis, Marcus Semien, & Rich Hill.
      I also have rostered Jed Lowrie & Coco Crisp at different times (I have Crisp on my roster at the moment).

      • Rhino says:

        Hill is back in the rotation finally (Sonny tanking his trade value lol)… Semien and Davis have SHOCKED us with their power this year. Lowrie is a classic Beane guy cuz “he gets on base”. Rickey Henderson said if he could teach Billy Burns a ‘first step’ he’d never get caught stealing 2nd base. You at least got the only guys worth having… but none of them can handle a top-20 pitcher. lol

  48. Al in MIA says:

    lol Mike.

  49. ukfinfan says:

    I see first world problems are being hotly debated again here! Never a dull moment!
    I can’t believe this is even being discussed.
    As a keen exponent of origami and having pride in all things bathroom-related (LMFAO …… not) there is only one answer to this question, as the attached tutorial will reveal
    PS I think all the fellas should practice one of these and leave it for their better halves to find and see what reaction it gets!?! Fun for all the family.

    • Mike E. says:

      That’s great stuff UK, but I don’ think I have the patience to go any further than the triangle. Plus, I like soft TP, which I would think would make most of those folds very difficult to accomplish.

  50. Mike E. says:


    War-ri-ors . . . . . . Come out and play – yay!

    • Rhino says:

      Saw Cespedes is starting CF in all-star game. Immediately thought of all you Mets fans here. 🙂 Surprised I didn’t see much on Wade leaving Miami. LeBatard ranked Wade as the most famous/important sports figure in Miami’s history over Marino and Shula (?)
      doldrums I guess. 🙂

  51. Rhino says:

    Here’s my contribution to the t.p. debate:

  52. Mike E. says:


    Cespedes is holding up his end of the bargain, that’s for sure. He’s playing well, and has been a big part of why the Mets are in still in the NL East hunt.

  53. Al in MIA says:

    I wonder if the Mets could snag Melkey Cabrera from the White Sox.
    I think he could help them in that lineup.

  54. Al in MIA says:

    Now I know what you do with your time on the shitter 🙂
    LOL @ the “pleated tuck”

  55. ukfinfan says:

    LOL @ MIke and Al.
    I also prefer the softer varieties so the triangle is the limit of my efforts and patience.
    Did you used to have the IZAL brand in the US? I think it was medicated, but had similar properties to greaseproof. It was an origami-lovers dream, but utterly unfit for purpose as it had zero absorbency and if you were unlucky, it was sharp enough to leave you with a rash or lacerations. Ah, fond memories of childhood come flooding back!

  56. wyoming85 says:

  57. bookman11 says:

    LOL at the TP discussion. I work for a company that makes TP, so I find this particularly interesting.

    I feel bad that Herd had a melt down, but rest assured, they only make those sizes because it is more cost efficient to them. LOL

  58. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ the TP discussion. I think we may have covered it all now.

  59. stangerx says:

    Is the Bills game on Oct 23 at one.
    We’ll get together the Sat night before and Chef Warren tailgate as usghe.
    We have a three-row block in Sec 315 on the aisle towards the 50. That’s on the 15 on the visitors side. They are just like last year’s ‘cept other end of the field.

    The Flying Pig
    Brian NY
    OD (+1)
    stanger (+1)
    Chef Warren (+1)
    Son (+5)
    Mike E (+1)
    Herd (+1)
    Al in MIA (+1)
    Toba (+1)
    Phindog (+2)
    sb7mvp (+1)
    getterdone (+1)

    Make sure none of your library books are overdue.

    • Brian in NY says:

      Awesome. This is going to be quite the fest!

      • stangerx says:

        And it will be his first…….made sure not to tell him about the spiked paddle thing for first timers. 🙂

    • steveccnv says:

      Wow, 33 of you Fuckers, and I couldn’t get one person to show up for the SD game last year 😣

      • stangerx says:

        steve — don’t take it personal. Just so happens once you’ve been to a Fest you come back. Hard not to. And it ain’t about the seats or the food…..just all these folks together in Dolphin’s Mecca. Hope you make it one year — and still time for this one.

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m just messing around. I wouldn’t have gone to the game either, if I hadn’t bought the tickets before the season.

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Reshad Jones Verified account 
    They don’t really love you, they just love what you can do for them.

    • stangerx says:

      He could be talking about something other than football (like hanger on’s), but with the one-day holdout does make me worry a bit about him.

      • steveccnv says:

        He’s talking about his own situation. He’s saying, they don’t really care about him as a person, but he’s really just pissed about his deal. It’s a business first, they all do their jobs to save their jobs first. When they resign him in a couple of years he’ll tweet how much he loves everyone.

  61. Mike E. says:


    My nephew Phil told me over the weekend that he’s going to the game as well, along with his wife, and my sister told me she’s going as well. My sis and her husband are Jets fans, so I told them if they show up to the tailgate, they’re in for some shit! lol

  62. naplesfan2010 says:

    Gase was recently ranked 30th best coach in the NFL.
    bellicheat was of course 1st.

    • Mike E. says:

      Hopefully next year they flip-flop

    • steveccnv says:

      Just a beauty contest, but hard to rank him higher when he hasn’t coached a game yet.

    • bookman11 says:

      “I’m not sure how official any of these rankings really are.”…sorry Seinfeld reference..
      But, and let me be honest, (that was for Mike LOL) they should just leave new coaches off the list until they coach at least one season or half of one season and return the following year.

  63. bookman11 says:

    stangerx says:

    July 7, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    And it will be his first…….made sure not to tell him about the spiked paddle thing for first timers. 🙂


    That’s fine…just don’t be burning any books!!

  64. Mike E. says:

    Hand, paddle, if you want to go to a Fest, these are the things you have to deal with.

  65. Brian in NY says:

    Did we tell you that you’re sitting behind Rock?

    • bookman11 says:

      Excellent, I will get to scream in his ear!! I know he will never sit down…but I am 6′ 4″….should not be a problem

      • stangerx says:

        bookman……don’t matter how big you are. Sitting behind Rock is — let’s just say — a most different experience. Seems you just locked yourself into it though….lol

  66. Mike E. says:


    It’s “quite honestly” and “quite frankly” that piss me off. Smarmy-ass expressions! lol

  67. wyoming85 says:

  68. steveccnv says:

    People were bitching here about the lack of firework shows on the strip, they had shows Saturday and Sunday, but nothing Monday. Locals though buy fireworks and shoot them off, so for 3 hours you could see fireworks going off all over the valley. Best fireworks I’ve seen in a while. Over 900 911 calls came in, but nothing too major.

  69. Mike E. says:


    Quite honestly, you’re gonna be 5’4″ after the Fest for that one

  70. stangerx says:

    Mike E. says:
    My nephew Phil told me over the weekend that he’s going to the game as well, along with his wife, and my sister told me she’s going as well. My sis and her husband are Jets fans, so I told them if they show up to the tailgate, they’re in for some shit! lol
    Seriously — they are more than welcome. Warren always makes too much food anyhow.

  71. Mike E. says:

    Thanks Stanger

    Obviously they won’t be able to sit with us, but it will be fun to see them regardless.

    • stangerx says:

      We have a three-row block in Sec 315 on the aisle towards the 50. Maybe not in the group section, but yeah they can get near us and join the party. But maybe they want something other than the nosebleeds or just want to set up their own seat crib.

  72. wyoming85 says:

  73. Al in MIA says:

    My last experience (and only to date) with Rock was me screaming at GB fans up until Rodgers completed his comeback :(.
    I had to eat crow after that lol.

  74. wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins set for major battle over last starting cornerback position


  75. sb7mvp says:

    Looks like I won’t be going to the fest this year. Stanger let me know if you can find someone for the tickets or if I need to reimburse you.

    • Mike E. says:

      Bummer dude! I was looking forward to trying on your mitten. lol

    • stangerx says:

      Real sorry to hear that, but it ain’t till October. Plenty of time to change your mind though. And not a big deal on the tickets. Sorta of plan ahead on such.

      Once more…..would be great to see you there.

  76. Mike E. says:


    What row are we in?

    • stangerx says:

      Up top….rows 28-30. But other key thing is the highest numbered seats in the section (towards midfield)…aisle is seat 24.

      • Mike E. says:

        Cool, I think my nephew said he’s getting seats in the same section, about row 19, which is close enough

      • steveccnv says:

        Lol at up top, I thought you said they weren’t nose bleed seats?

        There’s really no such thing in football, the upper deck is better than low. Low you can’t see the field good.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — we are definitely the cool kids who sit in the back of the bus. Big move for us last year was going from nosebleeds in the endzone to on the same on the sideline. Key part is the crazy crew in one big section together.

    • stangerx says:

      Unless the team is on fire, he should have no problem joining us…..even with all the seats they took out.

  77. Mike E. says:


    Stanger brings an oxygen tank just in case anyone gets short of breath in the high altitude

  78. getterdone says:

    Howdy folks…here’s my TP contribution.

  79. Tim Knight says:

    I’ve actually dealt with enough poop, TP and wipes the last few weeks. Can we talk about something else like the battle between Lippett and Howard opposite Maxwell or something? LOL

  80. Mike E. says:

    Mets 0-2 w/RISP. Still struggling with this . . .

  81. getterdone says:

    How I picture Tim now.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s not the bunghole, it’s right out of the abdomen before it ever solidifies. A whole different beast. LOL

  82. Rockphin says:

    Wendell Pierce


    If every Black male 18-35 applied for a conceal& carry permit, and then joined NRA in one day; there would be gun control laws in a second

    • steveccnv says:

      And it would be needed. If every black between 18-35 respected authority we wouldn’t be talking about this.

  83. Rockphin says:

    I want to chime in on the TP coversation above. I’m an over roll guy for the reasons Al points out. The only real issue I have is on occasion the cat will get in the bathroom and bat at the hanging piece and unroll some. Once that starts……there is toilet paper shreds all over the house, a big pile of it in a corner somewhere and NONE left on the roll. The Cat isn’t gonna make it one of these days. 😉

  84. Rockphin says:

    bookman11 says:
    July 7, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    You stay out of this…next thing you know, I will be told your hand is part of some kind of first timer initiation..LOL

    Bookman, no had told you that yet? I guess everyone thought you knew already. In all honesty it wasn’t entirely an unpleasant initiation….

  85. Rockphin says:

    stangerx says:
    July 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    bookman……don’t matter how big you are. Sitting behind Rock is — let’s just say — a most different experience. Seems you just locked yourself into it though….lol

    Stanger, I already said, I am going to be a complete gentleman and sit quietly through the entire game so those around me can enjoy the game.

    • Rockphin says:

      I won’t even smoke or have a sip of alcohol before or during the game either.

      • bookman11 says:

        Wow Rock,
        I guess I might as well sit behind someone else…you just took all the fun and adventure out of it…LOL

  86. Rockphin says:

    teveccnv says:
    July 7, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    And it would be needed. If every black between 18-35 respected authority we wouldn’t be talking about this

    Really Steve? Are you saying these two police shootings in 2 days were the VICTIMS fault? Did you see the videos? SMH I am disappointed at the racist undertones of your post.

  87. Mike E. says:

    I haven’t seen either video yet, I was at work yesterday from 8AM-9PM, and then on the drive home I listened to the Met game, and then watched it when I got home. I was in the blissful state of Metphoria. I’ll see the videos later. I did hear the audio, it sounds pretty awful, and in both cases, like wrongful shootings. Not good.

  88. sb7mvp says:

    The fest isn’t about changing my mind. Some things came up and I just can’t go. Hope you guys have a good time and we destroy the bills 30 – 13.

    • Brian in NY says:

      Sorry you can’t make it. It would have been great to meet you!

    • stangerx says:

      Hope all is well, but if things change before then the Fest is still an option…..would be different if you had to jump on plane. So it is there for you if things clear up.

  89. sb7mvp says:

    I have no desire to watch the videos either Brian.

    • Brian in NY says:

      worst (damn spell check)

    • steveccnv says:

      I would think doing nothing would be worse. The problem is both the cops and black men. Black men on the average don’t use the #1 rule when dealing with the police, and that is temper. If you’re civil and calm the police won’t do anything, if you resist, give them lip, or are angry they may feel threatened. And then the trouble starts. It’s not just black men with the attitude. But they seem to scare the most.

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree though that it’s not a good way of handling the situation. Instead of these protests they should send a message out to their people and teach them how to act when confronted by the police.

  90. stangerx says:

    Rockphin says:
    Stanger, I already said, I am going to be a complete gentleman and sit quietly through the entire game so those around me can enjoy the game.
    Gentleman and Herd — meet Rock.Fest,2016 version

  91. Brian in NY says:

    steveccnv says:
    July 8, 2016 at 10:18 am

    I would think doing nothing would be worse.
    No, killing innocent people is much worse Steve.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We have some cops who use excessive force against black people too often then we get a black people vs. white people war as if we’re all the same and we all get along just because we share skin color. Can you be any more ignorant than that?

  92. sb7mvp says:

    and I here I thought I could get away from the Facebook debates about race lol

  93. Brian in NY says:

    The issue that most of the American public misses is that the problems stem more from culture, and not race. Yes, race does factor into it some of the time, and this is exacerbated by the media, but it is a cultural problem that leads people to behave the way they do, and has very little to do with race.

  94. Brian in NY says:

    Harvey having season ending shoulder surgery. Ugh.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I figured as much. I wonder if this was an issue for him all along. His pitches didn’t have that bite we were used to seeing.

      • Brian in NY says:

        It must have been. He hasn’t been right since the season started. At least our bats seem to have woken up!

  95. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe this will fit on your roll?

  96. stangerx says:

    For some reason…..I am really loving this story. Put it in the turnabout is fair play file.

    Even though hunting is outlawed within the national parks of Zimbabwe, ten men were illegally hunting for elephants last month within the park’s boundaries when they stumbled upon twenty adult Southwest African lions. The pride of lions were not exactly, you know, expecting human visitors, so they immediately attacked the intruders. The attack was so instantaneous that five of the ten men were killed, three severely injured, and two lightly injured. The animals were mostly unhurt. The men who survived the attack ran to a nearby village for medical help where they were promptly arrested. Ah, karma!

    “The men were visibly traumatized by the attack,” said Commissioner-General Chihuri,“and after seeing their injuries and the remains of their dead comrades, I can see why. These guys were tough criminals carrying ak-47s, but they were literally shred to pieces and devoured by the lions. I have never seen an animal attack reach this level of violence, and I have seen a lot!”

  97. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    July 8, 2016 at 11:03 am

    We have some cops who use excessive force against black people too often then we get a black people vs. white people war as if we’re all the same and we all get along just because we share skin color. Can you be any more ignorant than that?
    I think the real problem is we dont stop at “We have some cops who use excessive force against people too often”.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I can’t disagree but my point was why do we even get here in 2016? Unreal

    • markeyh says:

      Because there is a disproportionate amount of Black folks who experience excessive force, bias, fear, and incarceration. The numbers do not lie. Black folk are preyed upon.

      The Numbers do not lie…..How can a race of 10% or less be the largest percentage of anything in any society? JMHO

      • markeyh says:

        African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population

      • steveccnv says:

        Surely black people face more excessive force, bias and fear than other races, as a percent. Black people shouldn’t try to change the police they should change themselves. Get an education, respect law enforcement, don’t resist authority. When the police stop fearing blacks the excessive force will decrease. I would bet the percent of blacks that do what the police tell them to do and still get subject to excessive force is very small.

        I don’t condone what these cops are doing, there are plenty that are assholes and think they’re above the law, all people have to be held accountable for their own actions. We know cops use excessive force, so don’t test them. We know lions kill people, if they’re trapped in a cage with one, so why would anyone go in a lion cage or habitat?

    • steveccnv says:

      Police officers haven’t gotten used to social media. This excessive force isn’t new, social media is exposing what they’ve been doing for years.

  98. wyoming85 says:

    • markeyh says:

      Numbers do not lie! 123 blacks compared to just 238 whites when to consider the percentage factor of the races it is not even close. In fact there are more Hispanics in this country than blacks and they even have a lower number than blacks.

  99. Mike E. says:

    Have a good week y’all, I’ll be off this week, and up in the mountains. LGM!

  100. markeyh says:

    “We know cops use excessive force, so don’t test them. We know lions kill people, if they’re trapped in a cage with one, so why would anyone go in a lion cage or habitat?”
    The problem is the Lions are not caged they are loose in our society and they are preying on Black folk. How is it testing them when they are the aggressor? If you have never been stopped for “DRIVING BLACK” than can you really speak with intelligence on this subject? NO! You show the same ignorance and simpleminded thinking many do who have their heads buried in the sand. Because they really don’t care unless it hits home when a mentally ill black person attacks white folks.
    Many police are aggressive, arrogant and antagonizing towards the poor (Black Folk). They know that there is a high probability stopping a certain vehicle that exhibits the “signs” that a black person is driving as well as just profiling black folks that they have the ability to excuse their illegal stops any way they want. When you have been harassed, illegally stopped, searched and arrested you too might then exhibit some frustration over being harassed.
    Many Black people do get an education, show respect to the police and still lose their lives over simple things like selling CD’s, or cigarettes, or driving with a broken tail light? How would you feel if your 12 year old son playing with a BB gun in a park is executed two seconds after a police officer pulled up to the scene? Too many of these cases are now being exposed but have been a fabric of the black community forever. When will it stop? Racism is real and close behind it is the apathy of the majority of our society. The outrage that the Zoo had to kill a Gorilla to save a young Black boy is another example of how BLACK LIVES DO NOT MATTER to the majority the NUMBERS DO NOT LIE!!!!!! Simple Math!!!!!!
    Drug Sentencing Disparities
    • About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
    • 5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
    • African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense.
    • African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months). (Sentencing Project)

    • markeyh says:

      Do the math! It tells the truth! Numbers do not lie!!!!!!

      • markeyh says:

        The sad truth is even with video evidence we still see acquittals of the carelessness if not out right negligence and murder of too many innocent Black Lives.

      • steveccnv says:

        Markey, we all roughly know the numbers and aren’t debating what you’re saying, but what I’m saying is black people can’t control what cops do to them, unless they change themselves. What black people can control is changing their attitude, are comply more with the expected laws of nature. When I was a kid my dad taught me, when you get pulled over, you do what you’re told, you don’t cop an attitude, and you don’t say well that car did…or you might get shot.

    • stangerx says:

      markeyh — I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that African-Americans get profiled. Remember reading an interview with Marcus Allen back when he was in the NFL. He had been pulled over driving so often that eventually he got a letter from the Chief of Police that he kept in his car. It basically said “This is Marcus Allen, star running back for the Raiders….and the Mercedes is his.”

      Being a white as Wonderbread guy, can’t even fathom what that is like. Without defending any kind of racism, will note how things have improved over our lifetimes and our parents lifetimes. Think about what it was like in the 50’s and 60’s…..heck even in the 80’s.

      Have been struck with how such issues have come more and more to the fore recently. I hear some say things have gotten worse, but just don’t believe that. You might not like it, but I think things have improved enough that African-Americans are aggressively addressing the parts of it that are still there.

      • markeyh says:

        I agree things are improved but there is still a long way to go even now. We can not settle because things have improved we need to press on until the day comes when I can walk the streets as safe as you can, Or I can earn the money many of you can without being limited because the color of my skin. Education alone will not solve these issues but legislation and just the decency of the majority race to give a damn!

  101. Brian in NY says:

    steveccnv says:
    July 9, 2016 at 10:43 am

    Markey, we all roughly know the numbers and aren’t debating what you’re saying, but what I’m saying is black people can’t control what cops do to them, unless they change themselves. What black people can control is changing their attitude, are comply more with the expected laws of nature. When I was a kid my dad taught me, when you get pulled over, you do what you’re told, you don’t cop an attitude, and you don’t say well that car did…or you might get shot.
    This is true in some cases, but the fact of the matter is you can’t lump eveyone into one category. Example:
    I have an acquantaince who is African-American, as is his wife. They are both very well educated (they are doctors) who are upstanding citizens and have never been in trouble with the law. They are about as mild mannered as they come. They recently bought a house in an upscale neighborhood, and their concerns, along with what dining room table to choose, was how they would be looked upon by the neighbors, and how their children would be treated. They said the second their children were discriminated against, they would pick up and move. She laments the fact that she has to teach her kids to be meeek and mild mannered, and to not look people in the eye when talking to them, instead of being assertive , traits that we teach our kids in order for them to be successful. This is just one example of what minorities go through, something you or I could never imagine experiencing.

    • steveccnv says:

      Obviously there are cases like this, lots of them. The problem is the % of blacks that are uneducated or only educated enough to get a low paying job is far too high, and that needs to change.

      • markeyh says:

        There are a lot of “Educated Blacks” that still have to deal with the same issues in our society that the uneducated do. It’s about being Black……when will apathetic victim blamer’s get a clue?

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m not debating it happens to educated blacks. When the group as a whole changes, things will change. There’s too many knuckleheads that are black by %, that are ruining it for the rest.

      • markeyh says:

        There are many knuckle headed people of all races who do not suffer the injustice Blacks do. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM!

  102. markeyh says:

    These issues are being exploited by both the political and media factions as it becomes a focal point EVERY election year. Race baiting by both parties and then the hypocrisy of both parties who practice division while getting up on their perch and call for unity.

    We are a failed society and God is the only one who can help us all.

    • steveccnv says:

      You have to help yourself, do what you can, so you don’t get put in those situations. Police brutality happens to whites too, it just happens to blacks a lot more on a %.

      • markeyh says:

        One day when you realize you too can help and realize that the world from your backyard is different from mine and that it’s not just about the Police brutality but it is STILL about the color of your skin that you can benefit while others with a different pigment will always have obstacles and barriers YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH that make it hard to survive then you too will have woke up!

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m done, you haven’t comprehended a word I’ve said.

      • markeyh says:

        Maybe it’s you who is not hearing what I am saying……quit blaming the victim!

    • markeyh says:

      Heaven help the black man if he struggles one more day
      Heaven help the white man if he turns his back away…

    • stangerx says:

      Markeyh — no haven’t lived with your skin color. But have worked for, with, and had employees who were African Americans over the years. And not once have heard a comment about their race in any kind of negative way. They were all judged for who they were and what they were doing.

      Most of these were real professional type situations, but not all were. Guess it works given recent events — in college years one of my bosses was head of a big company mail room who supervised not just me but a whole bunch of retired ex-cops who were paid much more than they should have been as a “break-glass-in-case-of emergency” force. We all respected and liked him, and for good reason.

      And yeah their are white trash bigots out there, but doesn’t every large group of millions have idiots in it? But most of use white folks aren’t looking down on anyone. Maybe the question for us is how much obligation we have to do anything other than treat each person for who they are without regard to race.

      Take college applications. I’m not a fan of affirmative action. Don’t think Michael Jordan’s kid should be admitted because he his black. I do however look at socioeconomic factors. So yes I think a kid from a bad neighborhood should get a leg up just cause of what he has had to deal with……whatever his race.

  103. Tim Knight says:

    We really need to do a better job as citizens when dealing with each other. Most people of all races and color just want to live a good life and raise their kids to do the same. We all want the same things. But when people feel despair, they resort to all kinds of behavior to survive in any way they can. We should really try to help young people before they lose all self control. Some adults may be too far gone, but if we can help them when they’re young we can change lives for the better.

    • markeyh says:

      When you have a Country that spends more money to put one or both of the parents of these young people in prison than maybe fix the broken education system in the black communities, or help create meaningful employment and living wages it proves that they not only want these problems but need them.

  104. steveccnv says:

    Markey I’m not blaming the victim, in trying to offer a solution.

    • markeyh says:

      I fully understand your points I just do not think and or agree that that is the solution. The higher percent of the population needs to take action the question is what will it take for them to want to do something about it? When we can all agree there is a problem and come up with real solutions to fix the problem we will always have a problem.

      • steveccnv says:

        And there in itself is the problem, both sides want the other side to change, but don’t want to do enough to change themselves.

        You’re always going to have police shootings, because people do stupid things on both sides, and because officer safety is at stake. I watched a video recently I think it was the one in Minn. The guy had a permit to carry a concealed weapon, told the cop he had one, but went into his pocket to get his ID and the cop thought he was going for his gun, and fatally shot him. Because it was a white cop and a black man of course the racial thing comes out, but watching that video the cop feared for his own safety, the shooting had nothing to do with the color of skin.

      • markeyh says:

        So you tell a cop you have a license to carry a concealed weapon and then follow his instructions to provide ID and he shoots and kill you…..
        Why would he disclose the fact he had a concealed weapon if he intended to shoot the officer?

      • steveccnv says:

        Just read this:

        I agree Markey, it’s totally retarded that the cop shot the man, but it wasn’t about race. That’s another thing that escalates things, every time a cop shoots an innocent black man people say it was, because of race and blame whites, even in situations like this, when the cop was Hispanic.

    • markeyh says:

      It was because of him being black that is the basis for his fear and overreaction….

      • markeyh says:

        Hispanic, Black or White it matters not when a life is lost

      • Tim Knight says:

        That’s the biggest issue of them all. The loss of a life.

      • markeyh says:

        Not only that but the low value that is put on black lives…for some to feel that blacks cause there own problems. When in reality they are trapped in a society that has created obstacles and laws that make a way to a successful life in this country extremely difficult.

      • stangerx says:

        Markeyh — was struck while watching people talk in the aftermath of the Dallas shootings. Among those commenting where a president, an attorney general and the Dallas police chief…..all of who were African-Americans. Surely at least there is some avenue for success no matter what obstacles there are.

  105. stangerx says:

    2013 – 3913 pass yards, 6.7 Y/A, 24 TDs, 17 INTs
    2014 – 4045 pass yards, 6.9 Y/A, 27 TDs, 12 INTs
    2015 – 4208 pass yards, 7.2 Y/A, 24 TDs, 12 INTs

    That’s Tanny the last three seasons. IF he wasn’t our QB, you’d be thinking that is pretty good. And that is before QB-whisper Gase started to make the scared colt calm down.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve made that statement many times. Look at his numbers not knowing who he is and many teams in the league would take that in a heartbeat.

      Not just Gase but Christensen comes with a boatload of experience and success. Yes Peyton was a key component and he also got Luck but he knows his stuff. If we block I think we”ll score a lot of points. We have a lot of weapons. Need to stay relatively healthy.

      • stangerx says:

        What I like most in those stats is the TD to INT ratio, but then guess that gets back to knowing him. The low INTs are probably due in part to him taking too many sacks (not all of those are on the OL).

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’d rather take a sack than turn it over. The field position difference is huge when you punt from your own 18 and can get the ball to at least midfield rather than the opponent having the ball on your 27 which is almost an automatic 3 points. These are the types of decisions that don’t always show up on the stat sheet in an accurate way.

        Tannehill’s biggest obstacle is making more game winning plays, not just trying to avoid mistakes. He doesn’t make a lot of mistakes, he lacks more big plays. People breakdown his game and say he could have, should have done this or that, he missed this and that. All QBs do that. The difference is the special big plays. That’s what separates the greats from the average/competent.

  106. Tim Knight says:

    markeyh, you know what really sucks, the people who keep ruining it for the rest of us. Most Americans of all races just go about their lives and don’t support or spew hate. Then the jerks enter the picture and make us have to spend time trying to figure out how to make it better. How about stop being a jerk asshole!!!! LOL

  107. D says:

    Markey, do the numbers of 45% of officer involved deaths being whites lie? My point is this isn’t a black and white issue, the media makes it a black and white issue, sine extremist groups with agendas make it a black and white issue. This is a excessive force issue and as Steve said it’s gone on for a while. Cops in general aren’t bad people and they provide a very needed service, they just need to clean the stables and get rid of the bad element, and by that I mean black cops white cops Hispanic cops any cops that choose violence over alternatives. Look up the college kid killed in mobile on the campus of the university of South Alabama. He was naked, unarmed, and never even approached the black police officer that shot him in the chest with his first shot, despite the fact that he had mace, a baton, and the kid was and 18 year old 5’7 130 lb kid. If you think this is black white issue, tell me why, in the week following Ferguson, this story never made national media, while so many other black victim cases did. This is an agenda man and it does nothing but make us focus on the wrong issues.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Then there is this. There is a lot of propaganda out there to pit people against each other for political reasons and it’s disgusting.

      • stangerx says:

        Lived in that world Tim, even with different kind of factions. You want to represent your own little segment of whatever…..you want to keep your own people inflamed on whatever it is. Actual solutions take away from your power. Yeah that applies to people like Al Sharpton, but it does to folks running places like the KKK, Jewish Defense League, NRA, anti-defamation league, ISIS, or whatever “our cause is great” group. Problem solved and you are no longer have a function or power base.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well said Stanger, and totally true.

    • markeyh says:

      The Numbers don’t lie there is a problem when you apply simple common sense, logic and math. 70% of the population is of white origin so no it is not surprising that 45% of officer involved deaths being whites…

      But I ask you how can a population of 10-13% be just about half the incarcerations in this Country? How is only one race is affected with continual high unemployment, poor living conditions, poor education, underfunded, underpaid, segregated, victims of nepotism, cronyism, and racism.

      I still fight many of these issues every day in my life……and that is 54 years of bullshit that I have still lived by the law and learned to accept the reality that in my lifetime these issues will not be solved.

      • Tim Knight says:

        You answered your own question with paragraph 2. Not saying it’s right but that’s why and it’s not right.

        markeyh, not be a smart-ass or insensitive or anything, do you think there is a country that would be better for you due to your race and color?

      • markeyh says:

        Don’t know I have never visited or lived in another Country so they don’t concern me I was born and raised here and deserve equal treatment in this Country! So going back to Africa where I am not from is not the answer. This Country is greater for and to some than others and that is unacceptable!

  108. markeyh says:

    Having said all the things I have said I also realize that the Black Community has failed themselves and have not been able to find their own way. The conditions, the crime, the drugs, the violence are in many cases self inflicted. But a lot of the same issues are truly more of a reflection of our society as a whole rather than the deplorable conditions our black communities face. They did not cause the conditions on their own and should not be expected to fix them on their own. Especially with their hands being tied behind their backs.

    • stangerx says:

      Markey — even if I might feel it personally like you, think we all understand the problem. At the same time, some of the people who I have most respected in the world are professional African Americans. Guess if there is a sign of what keeps the problem going is that all of them choose to move out of the inner city places that they came from. That was their choice and can’t blame them. But goes back to me thinking a big part of this is people growing up in poverty. Plenty of trailer trash white bigots out there coming from analogous economic circumstances.

      • stangerx says:

        Sorry “Might NOT” feel it personally like you

      • markeyh says:

        It will always be about economics, can’t blame folks who move away from the downtrodden communities that exist as they often become the victim of the unsavory elements that troll our inner cities and also prey on the same folks who fight hard to survive within the law.

        Our Country has moved towards a 2 class society the haves and the have not’s mankind is consumed by their own greed.

  109. Brian in NY says:

    markeyh says:
    July 9, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    When you have a Country that spends more money to put one or both of the parents of these young people in prison than maybe fix the broken education system in the black communities
    I hear you, but believe me, being a teacher I have seen that the “broken education system” is not only in the black community, it is in almost all low socioeconomic communities, regardless of color. It actually has very little to do with money; believe me, I work in this type of community now and have worked in them in the past as well. Mark Zuckerberg donated $100 million to the Newark School system with a very minimal increase in success. They can manipulate data very easily to make it look like they had more success than they actually did.The problems in the education system in America is a discussion for another time though.

    • markeyh says:

      I hear you Brian…yes that too is more about economics than ethnicity but of that 13% population that are African American they are twice as much to live in poverty than the rest of the country.

  110. Tim Knight says:

    markeyh, just to let you know I’m mostly Irish and did not grow up with much privilege other than being white I guess. But I grew up with a single mom in a one bedroom apartment into my 20s. My step-dad came into my life when I was 10 and he was a good influence but he and my mom did not really settle down until when I was like 33 or whatever. The reason I say this is because my side of the family and my step-dad’s also dealt with discrimination – those lowly Irish. That came from the WASP English/Dutch/Germans who ran the country. There was a time where there were signs ‘Irish/Italian/Jewish need not apply’.

    Not saying that is on par with slavery and what black people went through because it’s not the same level of hate and disrespect. But it just goes to show you that class warfare has always been a human trait and yes America was built on it even with legal documents that have the best of intentions. That’s not how all people behave.

    Even still those laws are in place to protect you and I from a human rights standpoint. That said, this is why I say we as citizens have to do a better job assimilating because that’s the only way to truly get to where most of us want this country to be.

    • markeyh says:

      It is beyond man to solve this problem….

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well for me that’s our only choice because God surely is not stepping in even though most people claim to have faith and be religious.

        Wouldn’t you just love God to step in and say “knock it off or else?” But that never happens.

      • markeyh says:

        Well that is the only hope as man has failed himself and has proven he is incapable of solving the problems we have.

  111. Tim Knight says:

    markeyh, maybe humans are not as qualified as we think we are. Maybe we’re just another animal looking to survive and we’re not really anything more than that in the modern jungle.

    • markeyh says:

      We are above the animals but have allowed our selfish nature to rule over the “Golden Rule” of life.

      Stevie Wonder’s song “Loves In Need Of Love Today” is a perfect song to apply to our lives.

  112. Tim Knight says:

    Because the phobia still exists.

    It’s kind of ironic that black women were the nanny’s of wealthy white Americans’ children back in the day and still are but they were/are not considered equals. How fucked up is that? That alone is something I can’t understand. If you trust this person with your children, they can’t dine with you?

  113. Brian in NY says:

    The notion of people “pulling themselves up by their bootstraps” is one that is going by the wayside, in large part due to public assistance. Now, I’m all for those who truly need help getting it, but the vast majority of people on public assistance are milking it for every dollar they can. People are not going to take education and employment seriously when they can do just fine getting money from the government for doing nothing other than sitting home and picking up a check from their mailbox every month. I see this first hand at work, and this sense of entitlement disgusts me. This does nothing to help society move in a better direction, it in fact prevents it from doing so.

    • markeyh says:

      Nobody is getting rich off of public assistance, you are not doing just fine if you receive public assistance. You are below the poverty level if you are living on public assistance. The fact is that the minimum wage is just about as low as one can expect so why work when you still can’t pay your bills? Then they penalize families if they have the husband at home and make it more advantageous to get rid of the spouse in order to get assistance.

      • herdfan says:

        markeyh says:
        July 10, 2016 at 9:01 am (Edit)

        Nobody is getting rich off of public assistance, you are not doing just fine if you receive public assistance. You are below the poverty level if you are living on public assistance. The fact is that the minimum wage is just about as low as one can expect so why work when you still can’t pay your bills? Then they penalize families if they have the husband at home and make it more advantageous to get rid of the spouse in order to get assistance.

        Why work…..???? That’s exactly the point he was making. Are you supposed to start out making a CEO’s salary? Everyone starts out somewhere. There are choices to be made. If you don’t want a minimum wage job then get educated and get a job that pays to provide the life you want. Financial aid is available to go to college in addition to scholarships. You have to WANT to work for it. My parents weren’t wealthy by any means. I’m the first to graduate from college in my family and I had tuition waivers due to my grades and student loans to do it. I never expected anyone to just hand me anything and I never had the thought, gee, it’s hard to do this, I’ll just have some babies and let someone else pay and live on public assistance. I would never have had children if I wasn’t financially able to care for them. I always thought it was a messed up scenario that the more kids you had, the bigger payment you got. It was encouraging young girls to have more babies they couldn’t afford to take care of. Why not? I always said they should have paid young girls to NOT have babies and stay in school. This has been going on for years and you have several generations that this is how they live, public assistance is all they know. This isn’t a racial thing because there are folks from all races that do it.

        I’m tired of being put in a category of uncaring or racist because I’m tired of paying the way of lazy ass baby machines. I see them at the grocery store check out line, they’ve got their benefit card in one hand and their iphone in the other. Tattoos and piercings all over and a few kids running around they aren’t even watching. Who pays for all that? Public assistance was meant to be a temporary thing, to help people out until they were able to get on their feet. It’s become a career. Just like you said…Why work?

  114. steveccnv says:

    Sports is really a good vehicle to bring people of all races together. I spent 13+ hours the past 2 days at the NBA Summer League Games. The section across the Isle from my seat said NBA Personnel Only. There was quite a mix of white and black, when they saw acquaintances, it was always a handshake and a hug, like one big happy family.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Music too.

      • stangerx says:

        And the police and military. You get folks all together working on something and all of a sudden there is no “them” and “us”……just people.

      • steveccnv says:

        Work is kind of the same way. Growing up in Miami, with desegregation, school was another place. It was rough at times, but…

  115. steveccnv says:

    Problems start happening, when races are segregated, no matter what they’re doing.

    • stangerx says:

      Could not agree more. Didn’t like seeing what happened in my college. You had absolutely no choice freshman year. Everybody had no choice who to live with coming in….all where just slotted into one of the freshman dorms. Everyone got along fine other than the normal stuff.

      The next year you could pick both who your were going to live and which dorm complex. And people segregated, with each dorm being known as where this or that group (including jocks, geeks and such) went. All of a sudden you didn’t know people who weren’t so much like you any more. And I can’t throw stones…..not like my buddies and I tried to move into the “black” dorm.

  116. stangerx says:

    Nice article from the NFLSpinZone on what we may see new scheme-wise this year. The two most interesting below.
    2. Run More Man-Gap Blocking Schemes: The Dolphins primarily ran the inside zone, mid-zone and outside zone running game under Lazor. That will change with Gase. He will bring back more man gap blocking schemes. The Dolphins will run the two back and one back power plays as well as misdirection and isolation plays.

    4. Play Twister With the Front Four: New defensive coordinator Vance Joseph is inheriting one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. Look for Joseph to use a lot of different stunts and twists with this group to disrupt opposing blocking schemes. All four move well laterally and has (have) the quickness to penetrate and recreate the line of scrimmage.

    Full https://nflspinzone.com/2016/07/09/5-things-miami-dolphins-must-schematically-2016/

  117. steveccnv says:

    Herd I agree on the sit at home and get paid to have babies response. The way I see it is, if you’re a democrat you’re promoting this type of behavior. Shame on you Hillary, using the vote for me and I’ll see to it that you keep paid for doing nothing.

    JFK said don’t ask what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. At what point did the democrats change their slogan to don’t ask what you can do for you country, but what your country can do for you?

    • Tim Knight says:

      After the 1968 Democratic Convention when the far left hi-jacked the party.

      Many people do not realize Reagan was more in tune with JFK than what the Democratic Party is today but JFK is still a hero of the party.

  118. Brian in NY says:

    Murphy is KILLING us this year.

  119. steveccnv says:

    2.9 seconds is the average time it takes to get off a pass in the NFL. Could there be a more useless stat than this. So you take a team that throws a lot of short quick passes and say look how quick this QB gets rid of the ball he must be great.

  120. markeyh says:


    Yes there are people who have abused the system but States are working to change that. I do not see many young women now days being a baby factory in fact many of them are focused on their careers.

    My statement “Why Work” was pertaining to the minimum wage and the fact that it is so low some feel why work when you still can’t pay your bills, to them the benefits that come from the government outweighs taking a minimum wage job. It was more about my saying the minimum wage is a joke.

    What should be done is the minimum wage that is currently $8.05 per hour in my State. Should be applied to adolescents but after a certain age (21) you must pay them a government mandated minimum wage rate that is where Bernie Sanders feels it should be $15.00 per hour.

    Can any of you legitimately pay your bills with making just 8 dollars an hour? Have you noticed the cost of food today?

    • Tim Knight says:

      A big problem is adults with children only able to make those wages. Schools and education is provided in this country.

      • steveccnv says:

        They can make it, if they want to. I worked with a guy in Tahoe years ago that was a busser in room service on swing, worked at the liquor store during the day, and had a 3rd job at another casino. He had no skills, so he got by on labor. All states have a department of training education and rehab, that provides training to a lot of people for free. The state will also provide education to the lower class for free. When there’s a will…

    • steveccnv says:

      There’s still plenty of baby factories out there, and will continue to be as long as the democrats continue with the entitlement crap.

      They’re getting by on similar to $8 an hour now, but the point was that’s your starting salary, move your way up in time. Moving the minimum wage up to $15 an hour is almost as bad as giving people something for nothing, they make $15 an hour and they’re content, and don’t want to move up the ladder.

      The $15 an hour BS is another democratic campaign ploy to get people to vote for them. Bernie is good at that crap, he did the same thing with the free college BS that will never work.

  121. olddolphan says:

    BACK FROM a successful convention in Orlando. The “official” highs the 4 days we were their were either 97 or 98. But the “feels like” temps, with near 100% humidity, were near 110!!–Definitely noticed Tampa Bay was hot, but upon our return it FELT like 5-10 degrees cooler in the Tampa suburbs than it did on International Drive in Orlando.
    AL in Miami; YOU may be right when you predict that the NL wildcards will be L.A. and St. Louis.-But I believe the Marlins will find a way to make a deal and get another reliable starter through a trade (involving Dee Gordon, perhaps, who comes back after his 80-game suspension soon after the All-Star break). Ichiro’s drive to immortality is at 2,990 hits. Both the players and fans are REALLY into it. And, as Mike E. well knows, STANTON seems to be back in the groove!! –I believe, barring a catastrophic injury to a key player, the Marlins WILL make the playoffs. Then it will be a battle for the other wild card. It will be a VERY INTERESTING SUMMER in the National League. –NOW IF THE DOLPHINS can only have a VERY INTERESTING SEASON!!

  122. herdfan says:

    Minimum wage earners are generally people with little to no education. As I said in my post, if you don’t like the lifestyle at that level, get an education and get a higher paying job. But no, it’s much easier to blame others for the choice you make and expect to be paid more than your education and skills command in the job market.

    And what of the cost of living for everyone to support the $15/hr minimum wage jobs? Are you ready to pay $10 for a burger when you drive thru your local fast food establishment? The cost of everything goes up, including wages on up the ladder…it’s a cycle and raising the minimum wage isn’t the answer. Getting off your ass and working so you have the education and skills to make more than the minimum wage is the answer. I’ve never said that you can support a family on minimum wage. If you want a family, be prepared to support them. Don’t expect others to support you and your child and then multiple children just because you didn’t get an education. Public education is free. There are scholarships, grants and student loans. I get paid based on my education and job skills and I can’t recall anyone asking me how many children I had to support during any salary discussions in my career.

  123. olddolphan says:

    NEITHER DO I, HERD. IN high school, I started as a cashier at Winn-Dixie @ 55c an hour. But I was already a seasoned employee, having begun working Saturdays at a coin shop when I was 13. By the time I got to Florida Atlantic, I was working at the Publix store, a few miles from the campus, at near $1.75 or so per hour, 30 hours a week between classes. No parties, no fraternities, no proms, no nonsense. ALL of those were MY CHOICES!! My mom had 7 knee surgeries by the time I was 18, so my folks could not help me financially, through no fault of their’s, or MINE! I saved, I borrowed (on the National Student Defense Loan program), i earned a couple of scholarships, and I worked my ass off. At age 33 I made my last payment on my loans, with NO HELP from my parents. By this time. mom and dad were dealing with his lung cancer.
    I didn’t get where I am by being a pretty face. Nor by being the kid of rich parents. Nor by being the smartest guy in the class. I got where I am by WORKING MY ASS OFF!! nOW, A GREAT GRANDFATHER TIMES 6, I’M STILL WORKING MY ASS OFF LONG AFTER MANY MY AGE HAVE RETIRED! In a few more years, all of my wife’s surgeries will be paid off. And I’ll look in the mirror and say “I can’t wait to get BACK TO WORK!”

    • steveccnv says:

      Are you starting to get the point Markey?

    • herdfan says:

      The backbone of America, you and so many like you. And it’s sad you have to work so hard to pay off your wife’s surgeries. If you, along with the rest of us hadn’t been supporting countless others, you’d have brought home more of the income you worked so hard for. And from what I know of you, like many of us, you get a sense of self worth, pride for a job well done from the work you do. It’s more than just the money you make. People who expect it all handed to them will never ‘get’ that no matter how much is given to them.

  124. Rockphin says:

    Not bad for a too slow for the pros 4.77 second 40 WR.

    Top 10 NFL gamebreakers
    John Breitenbach

    10. Jarvis Landry, WR/PR, Dolphins

    The Dolphins’ commitment to feeding their top playmaker produced big results in 2015. Landry produced as a receiver, runner, and returner last season. He ranked second amongst receivers with 28 broken tackles, adding a further 12 from just 18 attempts on the ground. Landry also averaged an impressive 5.2 yards after the catch per reception. He contributed on special teams, too, recording the top grade of returners last season. Landry averaged 10.9 yards per punt return, adding a touchdown in the process. One gets the impression new head coach Adam Gase will get the best out of his versatile, talented weapon.
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  125. Tim Knight says:

    Herd, don’t you understand that the minimum wage is simply a gift from the government? Nothing else changes. Those same people won’t pay the same cost for the increase in products and services, they get a card for the $8 ph prices. LOL

    • herdfan says:

      What was I thinking? 😉

      • markeyh says:

        We will have to agree to disagree as just like in life we all see out of different lenses and from our own perspectives.

      • steveccnv says:

        So if you don’t think the minimum wage is a gift from the government, what do you think it is? It was put in place to keep employers from taking advantage of their employees, but… You want us to see things through your eyes, but you don’t want to do the same.

  126. olddolphan says:

    YES, Herd, I DO take great pride in the things I have accomplished, many of which were on a VOLUNTEER basis. My father’s favorite saying was “I’ve found in life the harder I work the luckier I get.” I surmise from you that you’ve followed a similar course in life.
    THIS OLD GEEZER needs to hit the sack. A lot of work is waiting for me tomorrow. I can’t wait!

  127. Brian in NY says:

    And what of the cost of living for everyone to support the $15/hr minimum wage jobs? Are you ready to pay $10 for a burger when you drive thru your local fast food establishment? The cost of everything goes up, including wages on up the ladder…it’s a cycle and raising the minimum wage isn’t the answer. Getting off your ass and working so you have the education and skills to make more than the minimum wage is the answer. I’ve never said that you can support a family on minimum wage. If you want a family, be prepared to support them. Don’t expect others to support you and your child and then multiple children just because you didn’t get an education. Public education is free. There are scholarships, grants and student loans. I get paid based on my education and job skills and I can’t recall anyone asking me how many children I had to support during any salary discussions in my career.
    Bingo. Not to mention the fact that small business owners have and will reduce emplyees hours because it’s not worth it for them to pay an employee full time wages at 40 hours plus a week for at least $15 an hour plus benefits.

  128. steveccnv says:

    Also career minimum wage earners will never be satisfied, no matter what the $ figure is. Seeing the protest March for these people in NYC last year was pathetic, what grounds do they have to stand on to think they should get paid more, because they can’t live off of the min, and the FN dems seeing an opportunity to use it campaigning kills me.

  129. Tim Knight says:

    The minimum wage debate is also not a race issue, it’s a political one that makes no economic sense.

  130. wyoming85 says:

    Now I never have to watch Basket Ball again!

  131. markeyh says:

    I can see the entrenched standard lines that come from folks (like some of you) who are misguided and blinded by the media and your own basis. I knew it was a mistake to engage folks like you who have their minds both made up and closed. It is easier to ignore the facts that there has been and continues to be an unfair advantage for a certain sector of our society NUMBERS DO NOT LIE!
    From the education system to our “injustice” system and then there is the discrimination that exist even for the folks who do the right thing, they go to school and have college degrees and still because of the color of their skin they are not earning the same wages as their counterparts. But in your world black folks are lazy and do not want to work. Never seemed to be a problem in the past when our labor was forced and for free. But now when it comes to paying these same people they are not worthy? You are ignorant of the reality that even when Black Folk do things right they suffer a greater injustice that you never will because of the color of their skin.

    You take for granted that you can walk the earth in this Country and not fear for your life because of the color of your skin, or be denied employment because of the color of your skin or be born in communities ignored and forgotten that have deplorable living conditions and a broken underfunded school system, that you take for granted in your communities. But you continue to blindly blame the victims and with an apathetic attitude dismiss the facts even when they are there for you to choose not see!

    I have known for a while that this clique that exists on this site is indicative of our societal issues but I stopped in once in a while to say hello. This will be my last time visiting this place enjoy your world you live in. We all will eventually be held accountable as death awaits and then maybe our eyes will be opened. Until then it is what it is!… I’m Out!

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve never denied that black people have it tougher in this country because of the color of their skin. They do. But that has nothing to do with the minimum wage. It’s called minimum wage, not a raise a family wage. There is a difference.

      You’re throwing out a lot of accusations towards people that aren’t fair.

      • steveccnv says:

        Yes, and he says were the biased ones, when we’ve mostly agreed with what he was saying about the way blacks are treated, yet he’s agreed with nothing we’ve said on min wage.

  132. wyoming85 says:


    I hate that you feel the you can’t be on a “Fan” Blog because we all have different opinions on a social Issue!

    It’s been nice knowing you

  133. Brian in NY says:

    You are lumping everyone into one category. I take offense to that because I work and have worked in some of the most underprivlidged, and violent areas in this country. Black, White, hispanic, etc. and Urban, Surbrban and Rural. I am a teacher by the way. Never have I said the black people don’t have it more difficult than me, because I know they do. I’m not going to go into all the lives I’ve positively affected in my life. I’m not going to go into all of the comments my students have said to me, and the letters they have written to me to prove my point; it
    s enough that I know them. The only “clique” I am a part of is the human one.


    • steveccnv says:

      He’s playing the my way or the highway approach. He’s the one being closed minded, no one on here except one person has debated anything he’s said about blacks being treated unfairly.

  134. Brian in NY says:


  135. stangerx says:

    markeyh — like fifty-some people come to this board……did you see one purely racist comment? Seems you think you did. And no bemoaning the “welfare state” an thinking the $15 min wage is the smartest way to change that is not racist….lots of white folks in their too.

    I saw many comments — hopefully including my own — that fully admitted the problem you are talking about. Will just repeat again that some of the people I respect most in the world are African Americans.

    Heck — I’ve had to kiss the ass of many a black person cause they were in a position superior to mine.

    So up to you — you are most appreciated and liked on this board.

  136. bookman11 says:

    It seems like every summer there is some kind of blow up like this one on here…. It is too bad. We need football year round or something.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think markeyh is just very sensitive at this time and he’s mixing issues. Nobody here is disagreeing with him on most of what he’s said. The minimum wage debate is it’s own debate and not a racial issue.

  137. herdfan says:

    I guess I’m the one he’s pointing at. I said there are all kinds of people who work the system. I’m not saying it’s one race. But somehow it’s perceived that way.

  138. bookman11 says:

    I think much of the problem is that sometimes it his hard not to mix topics on a blog, as opposed if these comments were made in person. That has always been an issue with blogs and e-mails…etc., in general..imho.
    It is like when someone wants to specifically talk abut how bad Tannehill is, and some of you will invariably blame the O-line, and it becomes a discussion on how bad the O-line is…..just kidding…..just trying to lighten the mood..

    • Tim Knight says:


      The written word does not represent emotion well.

    • stangerx says:

      Stuff happens. And thankfully far less than it used to in years passed. Maybe that makes the board not as interesting, but cool by me at least.

      The one I never got was “so and so said this so I am never coming back.” Lots of great and nice and wonderful people on this board. Why leave just cause of one or two or a few? Mean heck — I’m still here and will stay no matter what Tim comes up with. 🙂

      • bookman11 says:

        I am with you on that.
        I have had an issue at one time with a person or persons on here, but it really was silly, and thankfully it was only about football.

        I also agree..Tim can be difficult to deal with, but we press on none the less…LOL

  139. markeyh says:

    Let me apologize to any of you if my words earlier offended any because that was not my intent. That is why I carefully chose how I worded what was said and wrote (SOME OF YOU) if you feel it does not apply to you then it doesn’t. But I did not “throw out a lot of accusations towards people that aren’t fair” I made factual statements on what has been going on for far too long and still have no end in sight.

    On the minimal wage I really did not go into it much so that was not an issue with me. Yes, the minimum wage should be raised it would get a lot of people working who otherwise see no value in working for 7-8 dollars an hour or less. Those same people will get off of welfare and realize the value of working far outweigh government assistance. Many business owners are greedy and can afford to pay better wages and if they all have to abide by it then no one gets an unfair advantage they all would still have to find a way to make their products affordable.

    I am not sure what would be the greater cost savings raising the minimum wage vs. the cost reduction of people getting public assistance but if it could help these families break the cycle of dependence on public assistance it is a price I feel is well worth it.

    People are always complaining about solutions and how they will ruin businesses or destroy our economy without even giving it a chance. It seems like this partisan debate will be endless as both sides seem to be strongly entrenched in their ideological corners while this Country is on the brink of MAJOR civil unrest.

    From both parties being unyielding towards the other not willing to work together because their side did not come up with an idea or solution while at the same time trying to sabotage the other side’s proposals or get into office so they can undo what was enacted by the previous regime. There can be very little progress as long as these divisions exist.

    One thing I can assure you is I too have worked hard all my life, I was born and raised in the ghetto and I did not have supportive parenting my Mother was the hard worker and my Father was a street runner. I did not graduate from high school but took a GED at 18 years of age I missed a lot of my freshman year due to illnesses and was behind in credits and I did not want to spend another year in high school. I could not afford college and did not even get direction to go to college. Ii took a 4 year apprenticeship in Carpentry through the State of Wisconsin and the Carpenter’s Union local #264. In fact I got paid to go to school as I got paid my wages while I took classes. I now have a skill that has provided and will provide for me the rest of my healthy life.

    I have paid my dues in all my years of being Married my family was provided for very well as I chose not to let racism stop me from taking care of my family so I went into business to properly provide for my household and set an example for my kids all who are an asset to our community then a liability. Not one day did my family have to use public assistance. So I am not personally offended by some of your comments just more frustrated to see that the opinions that we are so diametrically opposed just underscores the issues we face as a Nation.

    When “WE replace “THEM” and we take the “I” out of “tIeam” then and only then can we truly make progress.

    I apologize for getting a little testy and resend my statement about not posting here I will just go back to limiting my comments on Football.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s all good markeyh, most people and I mean black, white and other races all want the same things. But it’s okay to disagree on how to get there. I think people in this country go about a lot of things the wrong way and never come up with viable solutions. They just draw lines in the sand and throw mud at each other and it sucks!

      I’m glad you’re sticking around though. 🙂

    • Brian in NY says:

      Understood Markeyh. Our life experiences help shape our outlook on life; yours has clearly done that, as mine has as well. My apologies if I was offended too easily; I have prided myself in treating every one of my students the same, because they are all the same. It pains me that some have to go through prejudice and bigotry like you did. I look forward to seeing you at the fest my friend.

    • stangerx says:

      Who fights more than brothers?
      Who has each others backs more than brothers?

      Obviously between the two of those is that they don’t always agree on stuff. 🙂

  140. wyoming85 says:

  141. D says:

    I am sure im included in the some of you statement because i brought up numbers as well. If i am it pretty much sums up you not having a clue who i am and that you are as judgemental and blind as the people you are calling out.

  142. D says:

    Brian in NY says:
    July 11, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    Understood Markeyh. Our life experiences help shape our outlook on life; yours has clearly done that, as mine has as well. My apologies if I was offended too easily; I have prided myself in treating every one of my students the same, because they are all the same. It pains me that some have to go through prejudice and bigotry like you did. I look forward to seeing you at the fest my friend.
    He has my sympathies for anything he has experienced to bring him to that spot but i wont apologize for something i didnt do. I dont live my life with prejudice, i dont accept the actions of those who would.

    I consider tactics of making offensive remarks and then turning around and trying to shame others into apologizing while holding to his own remarks to be utter bullshit, and i wont play that game.

    • markeyh says:


      Not sure why you are having your bullshit rant, I did not even notice you were in the conversation, I have no clue who you are and what you said. I am not about trying to shame anyone we all have an accountability to a higher power I am not the one.

      Exactly what spot are you even talking about? That is another reason talking to some is futile as they twist things and turn on you and want to label you because you have a different view on life than they do. I said nothing offensive to anyone here.

      I do not agree with some as they obviously do not agree with me but a healthy dialog could at least open the way to some potential common ground.

      I did not ask for or want your sympathies or apology or anyone else for that matter. I just wanted to give some perspective from the very people some here are extremely misguided and critical of.. I now realize it was a mistake to talk with some here as they have an agenda and even when choosing my words carefully some will try to twist my intent into what they have already concluded.

  143. D says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    July 11, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    LOL I’m so happy this chick is tampa’s problem now.

    Man…. Piggy you still think its dolphins fans not leaving her alone?

  144. wyoming85 says:

    Lets not forget what we lost!

    • D says:

      Man talk about blatant….

    • steveccnv says:

      The play against Cin. on Monday or Thursday night that Wake won for us with a safety was another winner, on the play the Cin RB should’ve been tackled for a 10 loss by Grimes, but ended up scoring when Grimes was dogging it around the 10 yard line.

  145. wyoming85 says:

    Is that you twitter handle Tim?

  146. wyoming85 says:

  147. wyoming85 says:


    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 4h4 hours ago
    Miko Grimes continues to rant against Dolphins, calls Stephen Ross and Mike Tannenbaum “Jew buddies”

    ProFootballTalkVerified account
    Buccaneers, owned by a Jewish family, officially have no comment on the Miko Grimes anti-Semitic social media rant.

    • stangerx says:

      She said Ross hired Tannenbaum to “keep his Jew buddies employed.”

      I’m sure Omar will have her back on that one though.

  148. wyoming85 says:

    WTF is he doing in a Fins Uni?

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  152. markeyh says:

    I think Tannenbaum has done a very good job of hiring the management and Ryan Tannehill has already proved to be a good QB we just need him to become great and this year Tannenbaum seem to have put him in very good position to do just that.

    I find it funny how some will not get over the fact that Mike Tannenbaum failed eventually in New York but that he also contributed to them making the AFC championship two years in a row. I would take that in a heart beat.

    Every coach and GM have had failures but that don’t mean they cant learn from them and make wiser decisions when give another chance, So far so good for Tannenbaum.

    As for Brent Gimes wife I feel she has some disorder and he husband understands and supports her. I am sure some of these teams are aware of here codition.

    • stangerx says:

      “As for Brent Gimes wife I feel she has some disorder and he husband understands and supports her.”

      On that absolutely agree.

      Did not like the Tannenbaum hiring cause how badly they screwed the pooch as far as the cap goes in Puke Green land. But have no real complaints about him since he’s been here. He sure did take over the front office in relatively short fashion though.

      Right now though…..my hope for the future lies in Gase.

      • markeyh says:

        Who hired Gase? So no matter what we will have to either give the credit or blame for how this team does to Tannenbaum. He has eliminated the perceived dysfunction IMO

      • steveccnv says:

        Yep Markey. Without Tannenbaum do we get Gase? I think it’s pretty clear we wouldn’t have Suh. Good thing Mike isn’t here😉

    • markeyh says:

      Her condition…..

    • steveccnv says:

      Well said, and Dawn Aponte us handling the cap Tannenbaum’s issue in NY.

  153. Tim Knight says:

    Go Phins!!!!

  154. Al in MIA says:

    Wow, thank goodness I didn’t come around here the last few days 🙂
    Go Fins!
    2.5 weeks to go!

  155. steveccnv says:

    If Miko isn’t a racist there’s no such thing. If she had a real media job she would’ve been fired a long time ago. They don’t get any more ignorant either. She’s a disgrace to women, and to Brent.

    • markeyh says:

      I don’t think she is racist, I do feel she is suffering from emotional issues that most likely require medications that she maybe sometimes get off track. I feel sorry for Brent he is a very good player and person from what I can tell. It must be hard to have a love one suffer from mental illness.She incorrectly identified one major issue of cronyism, nepotism followed by racism that one if not all affect all of us.

      • markeyh says:

        The shame is the media preying on her and giving crazy ramblings a platform.

      • markeyh says:

        that should have been “she correctly identified”

      • steveccnv says:

        Yeah let’s blame the media, unbelievable. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and you’re doing the same thing you’re accusing the other side of doing.

      • markeyh says:


        You have become somewhat of a troll, I am taken I am not Gay so I am not interested but I have made my point clear that I feel she suffers from some mental disorder and for the media to make this story like she blew up a bomb is over the top.

        I deplore any racist of any color and have disassociated myself from quite a few BLACK racist as they do exist.

      • steveccnv says:

        You feel she has a mental disorder and you’re laughing her?

      • markeyh says:

        No, I am laughing at what she said not at her…Try to keep up.

  156. stangerx says:

    Miko had more than just the headline anti-semetic quotes. Something is obviously wrong.

    “Kobe Bryant fans are different. they remind me of ryan tannehill fans. both are stupid but at least kobe was a baller. tannehill is a bum.”

    “being a tannehill fan is like being an eric snow fan when iverson was on the team. i dont get it. he doesnt do ANYTHING dope! Nothing!”

    “The dolphins f–king stink! They will never be great so long as Steven Ross is the owner, Tannenbaum is the gm, and Tannehill is the quarterback,”

    “No way i was gonna let him retire with a bum at qb, gm and owner! No f–king way! We will go out on a high with a REAL qb, not a wr at qb.”

    “U won’t hear any of this while we’re in tampa. Im letting coach koetter and smith do their thing. The dolphins tried to f–k us over so …,”

  157. Ken says:

    LMAO and SMH at Miko Grimes. That bitch is just crazy. As one of my best friends stated as his first rule of dating: Don’t fuck the mentally ill. Brent didn’t get the message unfortunately for him

  158. Al in MIA says:

    Suh on nfl network at moment

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  160. olddolphan says:

    JUST WATCHED GIANCARLO STANTON defeat Robinson Cano 24-7 in round 1 of this year’s home run derby. Cano is a previous winner of this contest. But he was outclassed tonight. Stanton has hit the longest homer in the competition so far (497 feet). And this is nearly at sea level, NOT a mile high in Denver! I’d REALLY like Giancarlo save a few of his homers for future games against the Nationals!!

  161. olddolphan says:

    STANTON Vs. FRAZIER in the finals. The next home run by Stanton will set an all-time record for most home runs in a single home run derby (42 total).

  162. olddolphan says:

    CONGRATULATIONS TO GIANCARLO STANTON for easily defeating Todd Frazier 20-13 in the finals of this year’s home run derby. Stanton’s 61 total homers topped the old record by 19 home runs!! And he had the 8 longest home runs in the competition tonight. In a few days the Marlins will get back slugger Justin Bour and last year’s batting champ, Dee Gordon. This is going to be a VERY INTERESTING second half of the season for Marlins’ fans!!
    Time to walk the greyhound and call it a night. Stanton’s display of power is something I’ll never forget. IT WAS AWESOME!!

  163. steveccnv says:

    Really Markey, you think I’m a troll. You give us your sob story, everyone but one person all but kisses your ass, then you whine and say you’re done with this board, when people dont agree with your min wage ideas. You come back after more ass kissing, then the shoe is on the other foot and you call me a troll, because I called you out, good defense.

  164. Tim Knight says:

    Let’s just all hope this civil unrest comes to a peaceful conclusion. 🙂

  165. herdfan says:

    I wish someone would write a new blog post. Anyone???

  166. sb7mvp says:

    I forgot to submit my mittens article to Mike. Been busy, sorry fam.

  167. stangerx says:

    Ahh Miko…what a great comparison. A Dad trying to help a NFL player with an obvious problem is worse than an obvious problem married to an NFL player. Makes sense to me.
    “The media is the problem. They make things stories so they get clicks. They are the ones that want the fame. They wanna be famous for writing the story that got the most clicks even if it’s not really a story at all. They tell you to be offended in the title usually. It’s brainwashing at its best! I get harassed for saying Tannehill is a bum but Johnny Manziel’s dad can say he’s a junkie and he hopes he gets arrested so he doesn’t end up dead, and he’s praised! What if those comments from his dad are the ones that sent Johnny over the edge?

  168. Al in MIA says:


    To say Stanton dominated is an understatement.
    He had 20 of the top 21 HR individual distances last night! WOW.
    He was averaging ~464 in the 2nd RD (I think ~445 in RD 1)
    Nobody matched the type of velocity coming off the bat! he was roping everything!


  169. Ken says:

    Man we need football to start soon. This is the doldrums.

  170. Al in MIA says:

    I saw Suh on NFL live yesterday around 7:30pm ….I’m pumped for the season.
    Camp starts two weeks from this Friday 🙂

  171. The Flying Pig says:

    New Blog up
    4th of July weekend is officially over….lol

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