It’s Game Day! Miami @ Seattle – Game One

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Game Day.  It’s about damn time!   To make matters worse, the football scheduling gods have determined that we have to wait an additional 3 hours 5 minutes to begin the season.   I don’t know about anyone else but I think this offseason has been the longest by far.  We have a new coaching staff, some new players, and a brand new season that’s going to go by way too fast.  Hopefully we are enjoying every minute of it.


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1,339 Responses to It’s Game Day! Miami @ Seattle – Game One

  1. stangerx says:

    You “but a loss is a loss guys…who cares if it was by two in Seattle” won’t like it, but my main worry this season coming in was how we went O crazy in the draft, when I thought we should go D.

    After yesterday have serious concerns with the O…..but also thinking greater minds than mine got the draft strategy right.

  2. 81Howie says:

    First Update
    BriNY 27-21 MIA
    Piggy24-14 MIA
    GO PHINS!!!

  3. Tim Knight says:

    I’m not just talking about stats. I mentioned game situations too. I’m not gonna get all crazy about every detail of the game. We lost a close one. Move on!

    Onto NE. Not gonna be an easy game.

  4. Tim Knight says:

    I believe RGIII will miss 6-8 weeks with a broken bone, shoulder I think.

  5. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ross: I support our players rights … Yada yada

    Thinking to himself :
    Not resigning him
    Not resigning him
    Not resigning him
    Not resigning him

    Stand the fuck up

  6. son of a son of a shula says:

    I keep hearing that we don’t want to offend vets but we still want to protest but the very action is offensive it just is and you don’t get to decide that.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The flag, national anthem or pledge of allegiance does not stand for oppression. That’s my issue. That’s not the enemy. The law of the land is not the problem, behavior is.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I will say this

        my major issue with it – and I frankly don’t have a big issue \
        its that it misses the mark for similar reasons as to what you said

        You don’t want to communicate that these symbols stand for oppression
        You want to say that racism is un-American

        you don’t want it to be America v tolerance
        you want to characterize the fight as America v intolerance

        Even if its not true a lot of the time

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You get to decide what your intent is

      You don’t get to decide whether some one else is offended

      I agree with your point though. You have to be sensitive to what some one might be offended by.

      I think the accurate way for it to be phrased is “We did not intend to offend ______. And we thought it was more important to make our point then to be sensitive to that.”

      but I’m a cynic
      I think you make choices

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        You can decide intent but be prepared to face the consequences of not so well thought out action.

  7. son of a son of a shula says:

    Too bad Tannehill can’t make that throw

  8. sb7mvp says:

    The protests aren’t on the behalf of old white men so I can see why it makes them uncomfortable.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I don’t care if the idiot protests but his punk ass should stand for the anthem out of simple respect for all the blood shed. This isn’t that difficult.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      And don’t judge my plight I’ve seen and been through a lot of shit too. Life’s a bitch I’m old enough to know that.

  9. Tim Knight says:

    What is the % of black men and white police being involved in violent conflict among the population?

    What is the % of black men and other black men being involved in violent conflict among the population?

    More black cops is not the answer and people have suggested this. Stop the violent culture but too many are afraid to address it due to opening too many cans of worms.

    I know people get all whoa, is this racist? No it’s not. I know many black folks who are well aware of why it’s not okay to go into certain neighborhoods especially if you’re white.

    If we as a country have done anything wrong, it is to continue to allow too many minorities to live a life of poverty, and also other poor people who could be white to continue a life of poverty.

    Instead of wasting money on political campaigns and nonsense, how about help people prosper?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t get this argument

      It doesn’t matter that there is black on black crime

      There is real issues with the way we police the inner city, irrespective of those stats

      People should not belittle movements like Black lives matters
      It’s a serious thing
      But it’s been the habit to redirect the argument to soemthing else everytime the issue comes up

      So it’s come to to this boiling point

      There are s many people out there saying “it doesn’t matter” that it’s starting to appear like a reflection of what America is

      And now we have people publicly saying that

      • Tim Knight says:

        Piggy, I’m being real. It’s an issue and it’s not because black folks can’t be anything they want to be because they do all the time. There is an unfair % who were put into poverty due to gov’t programs and it created a culture that did not exist years before.

        We have to correct some wrongs with sensible solutions and more opportunity is the answer. That also helps society.

  10. Randy says:

    Brown pushes off constantly.

  11. Randy says:

    I thought that the statistics were pretty clear that blacks are not killed by law enforcement at a greater rate than anybody else. How can you protest something that isn’t actually real?

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t known if he has anything left
    But I think he is worth a look

  13. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, just a reminder, I did say: “If we as a country have done anything wrong, it is to continue to allow too many minorities to live a life of poverty, and also other poor people who could be white to continue a life of poverty.”

    I’m acknowledging it! I think many of us are civil rights types. Not sure protests have the impact people think they have though. The laws are in place for all.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I know
      I’m not suggesting you are not being reasonable
      I just disagree with some of your points

      The protests are people at their boiling point
      It’s come to this

      Every time an incident happens there is a campaign to smear the deceased person, irrelevant stats introduced and people get defensive instead of listening and working for change

      I think “white lives matter” in response to “black lives matter” is the low point in human debate

      It’s classic misdirection. There is a real problem and people want it addressed. But people are eager to say it’s not really a problem

      I really think that is the big reason we are where we are now

      • Tim Knight says:

        I guess when I think all lives matter, peeps just don’t know what I’m down with. The word all means everyone. I’m for uniting, not dividing. I’m a lover not a fighter. LOL

        Bombs are not the key to changing culture either.

  14. The Flying Pig says:


    It’s not related to the issue

    I don’t get that point of view
    I don’t dispute the facts – I just say – why does that mean we don’t pay attention to the subject of these protests

    It’s just a red herring IMO
    You are avoiding the problem by saying “here’s another problem”

    • Tim Knight says:

      The real problem is not about standing for the national anthem. It’s about what is going on in Chicago and many other inner cities across the country. Don’t want to go there, okay, that’s why it continues.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I don’t think Chicago has anything to do with a unarmed black man being shot in Minnesota, lousiana or wherever

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah it’s an example of a larger problem. We have pockets of communities that are terrorized by a violent minority and we allow it to continue in 2016. Really sad while continuing to foster our own problems.

  15. herdfan says:

    Sorry I’m late to getting back to this. I was out of town Labor Day weekend when the roster cuts were done and I need to get the prize thing worked out. Last I heard it was Son. Is that correct?

  16. son of a son of a shula says:

    Tough night for Cousins

  17. Randy says:

    I have read some pretty thorough evaluations of the stats. The “9 times” thing is not accurate given all factors, but it sounds frightening. More Whites are killed than blacks by far. But, because blacks are a much smaller percentage of the overall population, those numbers need to be quantified. But, blacks are involved in violent crimes at a much higher rate as well. And, crime and killings are often concentrated in certain areas…typically areas dominated by blacks. Why would cops not be hyper vigilante and possibly over react in these high risk areas? There’s definitely problems with law enforcement. I’m not even a fan of cops….I’ve known too many. Lol
    I just think the question should be: “Why are cops killing so many people?” Not just black people.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I posted my source for the stats
      It’s a notable pinko source….lol

      But I think it hits close to the mark, I don’t vouch for the exact numbers. But what you is just hard to beleive

      If you want to remove race from it, be my guest
      But I don’t think that is being unrealistic

      I know there are probably economic and environmental factors
      But those factors overwhelmingly correlate with race

      I can tell you I don’t think cops are the problem
      I think the positions we put them in are

      I think we patrol inner cities in a manner consistent with the war against drugs and that’s going to lead to comfrontations

      We would probably be better offer changing some fundamental things we hAve done for decades

      I don’t like cameras on police – I think that’s an invasion of policy
      But I think when things happen with local police, you need the Feds to act like watch dogs so that they don’t get preferential treatment

      There – problem solved

  18. Randy says:

    I won. Trust me…have I ever lied to you before?

  19. herdfan says:

    Seriously, can someone tell me who won?

  20. Randy says:

    Sorry herd. I assume you knew I don’t even play. I have no idea who won.

    • herdfan says:

      I haven’t even looked at the spreadsheet. I’d like to keep it that way. I don’t really have anything to do with this contest except arranging the prize.

  21. The Flying Pig says:

    I picked Franks 53 times so I know I lost

  22. Randy says:

    I have no idea, herd. Sorry.

  23. Randy says:

    I think part of the problem is that this isn’t just one problem. It’s many issues coming to a point in one. I do think there is a problem with how some police behave or act. They’re human. Some are gonna be assholes. It’s just the way it is. It’s hard to articulate how to solve something when you really don’t even know what all the factors truly are.
    I would just say that “We” don’t put cops in these positions….criminals do. Unfortunately, with volatile incidents involving guns becoming more and more frequent, people will be killed….and many are…of all colors.

  24. The Flying Pig says:

    I didn’t want t draft him
    But I like the way Carlos Hyde runs

  25. D says:

    Piggy there is racial profiling by police, but it’s not specific to white cops to black citizens. It’s black cops to black citizens. It’s white cops to white citizens. It’s black cops to white citizens.

    I have myself been profiled by a white cops. Detained for an hour and a half for what he said was a traffic stop because I had a dirty tag he couldn’t read. OK yeah right, and I suppose the other hour and 25 minutes were necessary to get a good look. He literally put me in his co car and indicated me about where I was coming from what I had been doing where I was going to. Over and over sane questions asked different ways. He told me he suspected me for trafficking drugs and threatened to have my car torn down to pieces unless I just told him where the drugs were. Another time I had to white cops pin my car in from both sides while they brought a dog out and with it barking and growling at me searched my car because I dare run a red light.

    This shit happens because we have an issue with not caring who we let be cops. This has been turned into racial issues because they are only showing the issues that are extreme and between white cops and black citizens. It’s better media. It’s better for politics.

  26. Tim Knight says:

    Who won the roster challenge? So many were off by 2-3 players.

  27. D says:

    Piggy, inherently white lives matter isn’t any less insensitive than black lives matter. They are both highly insensitive to the fact that ALL LIVES MATTER. How the fuck is that hard to say and wrong to say.

    • The Flying Pig says:


      Completely disagree

      Black lives matter never said any other lives don’t matter

      Black lives matter is about the concern of the risk that people feel minorities are more subject to from police

      All lives and white lives are reactions to that and intended to marginalize the topic

      The counter argument to black lives matter is black lives don’t matter
      No all lives or white lives – no one ever say they don’t matter
      People just got defensive about black lives matter bc it didn’t include them

  28. D says:

    Btw same cop stopped me driving back from new Orleans a second time and though he didn’t remember doing it to me before, pretty much pulled the same shit he did before. Both time I was terrified because the way he acted told me he was one of those types. I got nervous going through that part of I10 for a long ass time after that.

  29. D says:

    Hyde is a real flash back to old school runners.

  30. The Flying Pig says:

    Gase loves him some Tanny

  31. The Flying Pig says:

  32. The Flying Pig says:

    Chris Berman sucks calling a game
    I feel like I’m disturbing him during dinner and he put down his cheeseburger to call a play

  33. D says:

    Piggy, black lives matter booed a Democrat candidate of the stage because he said all lives matter. You need to take a closer look at that group and what they have turned into. When they first came abouts I would probably agree with you. That’s not where they are currently

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Bc “all lives matter” is an attempt to marginalize the BLM slogan

      No one is saying other Lives don’t matter
      They are saying it’s not okay to treat black lives like they don’t

      • D says:

        No it’s not. It’s not meant to marginalize, the dem candidate said black lives matter, white lives natter, all lives matter and he wasn’t trying to marginalize them he was addressing them at a ralky where they were part of his constitutes

    • D says:

      Also completely disagree with your take on having opposition to black lives matter. I don’t care about the statement I care that they are intolerant when a person poses all lives matter as a counterpoint. Lots of black people are opposed to the statement as well. Several sports celebs have spoken out against it

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I opposed to it

        Who said they don’t matter?
        The point is that black lives matter – not that others don’t

      • D says:

        They did dude. As soon as he said it they yelled out NOOOO….

      • D says:

        Piggy ALL includes black lives too. What part of all is excluding, and what part of ALL doesnt reflect unity against a common issue. Do you believe officer involved killings are exclusively against blacks?

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  36. D says:

    Piggy some may use it to marginalize, a lot do not.

  37. The Flying Pig says:


    If some one said “save the whales” would
    You say “save all ocean life”
    Don’t you think that downplays the importance of whales being endangered?

  38. The Flying Pig says:

    It designed as a retort D
    That’s the only reason it exists
    That’s the design of the phrase

    • D says:

      He wasn’t debating their right to say black lives matter. He was addressing them. He started out acknowledging them and then said black lives natter, white lives natter, all lives matter. To be a retort he would have to be using the statement to counter theirs and he was not doing that

      • The Flying Pig says:

        That was wrong to do IMO

        And it’s not bc all lives don’t matter

        It’s bc it lessens the value of BLM
        BLM means soemthing specific to people
        And it’s the beleove that this problem affects young black males disproportionally

        so including everyone waters that down
        And this is less likely to be resolved

  39. D says:

    We will remain in disagreement Piggy. I have seen too much from that group not to see them as a racist group. The original intent and approach of that group was awareness. It has not remained that way. When speeches of white manifest destiny starts spouting out at rallies, things aren’t about awareness to the police brutality issues. It has moved on and I’m an absolute opposer of that hind of hatred on either side if the racial coin.

  40. The Flying Pig says:

    I will give you another example

    If I told you elderly people were subject to scam artists calling them on the phone and asking them for money (which of course is true)

    And I said we need to stop people targeting elderly people like that

    And you said we need to protect everyone from that

    You would be right of course, there is no reason it should happen to everyone

    But you just completely watered down the purpose
    And soemthing would be less likely to be done

    It’s just not right to do that when some one is trying to tell you there a problem

    Not everyone has to be included in every problem
    Some problems affect some people more Than others

    It’s not a race to be more oppressed…lol

    • D says:

      Yeah but I’m not going to scream NOOOO and boo you for saying we need to protect all people from scans after acknowledging to me you agree with my statement of elderly need to be protected

  41. D says:

    Have you at all been keeping up with this group Piggy? Or are you basing it off the original group?

  42. D says:

    Again we are at a deadlock I know where I’m coming from and I know it’s not to belittle the issue of black lives natter but I know what I see and I know it’s not a unifying voice coming from that group. I’ll never support it for that one reason

  43. D says:

    Piggy you didn’t do anything to stop me from getting my grandparents protected. You got more people on my side to help fix the problem for everyone

    • D says:

      Let me ask you this, if cops never kill another black person but they continue to kill Hispanics and Whites and Asians, etc. Have you accomplished the goal, or is the goal to have cops stop killing all people?

      • D says:

        Also I’ll go back to my question to you….. Do you feel this is a black only issue, or even disproportionately towards blacks?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      in theory you believe that
      It’s a reasonable belief

      In practice,

      You have to identify the problem to address it

      He problem is some asshole called an old lady and convinced her to give him his SS#
      If that happened to you, you would google the number, and be like WTF con artist

      So you don’t need that protection
      You know how to tell some one to go fuck themselves

      But if you know an elderly person who does doesn’t have Internet access – you can try to educate them about the scam, give seminars at nursing homes, go to areas where they are likely to live – instead of going everywhere and educating everyone so that no one feels left out – which you will never have time or money to do

      It’s very bad to water down a problem

  44. The Flying Pig says:

    I feel like its disproportionate for blacks D

    I feel like that aspect needs our extra concern
    I don’t think other groups are more likely to be harmed by addressing it that way
    I don’t think there is any evidence of that
    I think the perception is special treatment – which it’s not IMO

    If A police office kills another race I don’t think it’s bc we took BLM seriously
    I think it’s unrelated

    And I also think that a lot of civil rights litigation aimed at addressing issues blacks were dealing with – helped us all

  45. The Flying Pig says:

    Catch up later D

    I gotta go to bed

    Don’t fly your imperial trooper through any check points tonight 😜

  46. Randy says:

    I get it. The whole black lives matter getting watered down by saying all lives matter is like when I complain about Tannehill and everyone screams “the OL sucks”. It’s suddenly so clear to me. What Piggy is saying is that we should all focus on Tannehill sucking and not be distracted from the real issue by pointing out other issues on the team. I’ve had an epiphany. Thanks piggy!

  47. D says:

    Piggy we are probably arguing different points I see what you are saying and yes as a retort or used as a tool to diminish the argument it’s not right. I’m not arguing that point I’m arguing the point of why there is opposition to equality and why it has to be all o e way or the other and the loss of unity when you single one group out over another. We are both right in our own respects I just was trying to get you to see my side. I get yours and agree. I just don’t say all lives matter to do that I say it because I care about any lives taken unjustly and I see this as a bigger problem than just a black white tjing

  48. New Age says:

    I agree that BLM should be pushed but I really hate that other serious issues in poor communities really aren’t. 72% of black children are in single parent homes. 50% of black people don’t marry. Poverty, drugs, unemployment, etc are all concentrated in select areas and have been for decades. People talk about racist southerners but the worst cities are northern Democratic strongholds where nothing significant has changed since LBJ.

    Where is the outrage? Where is the change? Where is the responsibility? I don’t think BLM is a red herring but…it gets a disproportionate amount of press because it flames tension and sells news. I also endorse cameras on police while on duty. If you are doing paperwork in the office, taking a piss, or just want to talk shit about your supervisor, turn it off. But if you are going into a situation of any kind…have that thing turned on. This protects both sides and gives the race baiters…one less reason to change the subject.

  49. 81Howie says:

    Morning Update
    BriNY 27-21 MIA
    Piggy24-14 MIA
    Howie 24-8 NE*
    GO PHINS!!!

  50. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I had 4 wrong but I picked urlick twice (even though he didn’t make the team). So I was disqualified ;-(

    I think the winner is between Rock and Son because they each missed 5. Since Son was the closest to the phins score in 3rd preseason game (tie breaker) I think the winner should be SON.

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