Pigsgerald Bacon has agreed to participate in a simulation. Today Piggy will be helping us demonstrate pocket awareness. Specifically the pocket awareness of our very own quarterback – Ryan Tannehill.
To appreciate the authenticity of the simulation – Piggy will be wearing a blindfold
That way Piggy will have no idea what is going on around him!
and we made some last minute additions to the simulation that Piggy does not know about
Like adding a trap door right below Piggy…
So imagine that Ryan Tannehill is standing in the pocket..if there is a pocket
And suddenly something unexpected happens so the play doesn’t go as planned
To simulate this…the trap door opens…
Now the blindfolded Piggy has no idea what is around him
In this case, we have a room full of hungry crocodiles to simulate the rushing defensive players coming at Ryan Tannehill
Look at Piggy Panic!
Look familiar?
Ryan Tannehill has been sacked 195 times in his career
He’s under pressure a lot more than that
He’s had a horrible offensive line
No run game
Some very predictable play calling
But some think he holds the ball too long
And he doesn’t seem to move very well in the pocket.
He has no sense of the rush around him.
And the result is 41 fumbles in 68 games
Fixing this might be Adam Gase’s biggest challenge
Can it be taught?
Gase seems to think so he recently sighted to helping Jay Cutler with this when he worked with Jay Cutler.
If it is fixed, it might just save the season for the Dolphins.
Okay Piggy…I think I made my point. Let me help you out of there
Oh wait…we aren’t done with the simulation
to simulate the Dolphins breaking the heart of Dolfans, we will simply pull our hand away while Piggy reaches
and watch him drop to the crocodile pit again
Did we tell you we named all the crocodiles Geno Atkins to make this as realistic as possible?
…Well looks like Piggy made it out of the crocodile pit trap door!
Can the Dolphins make it out of this 1-3 hole?
Finsmob Unleashed 
I’m not up to reading the article in the middle of a late night discussion. Sorry Piggy, I’ll check back tomorrow.
D, I think you haven’t read much of what I’ve said the last few days and you think I’m defending Tannehill. I’m totally bummed with his performance and demeanor and think it translates throughout the team. But also not doing your job at many other positions is a problem.
Luck was sacked 6x today….I guess he holds the ball too long and has no pocket presence.
He could have been sacked 12 times easy.
A lot of teams have pass pro issues across the league. Let’s see how the Giants fare against that Vikings front.
only thing you left out is despite the 6 sacks Luck almost brought them back to tie the game where our failed first round #8 pick wouldn’t have gotten us more than 7 pts
James Winston had a 40 QBR today…..it’s a tough game…lol
See below. Comparing inconsistent failing QBs to one another doesn’t make a case. At least with Winston he is in year 2
hell, when I see another team make a mistake with their qb I’m loving it. makes it easier for our team when we have to play them.
found a LB who I feel can help upgrade our LB corps:
Calvin Munson, OLB, San Diego State
He’s currently projected 6th rd on CBSSports NFLDraftScout but I’ll bet that’s something that changes drastically before the draft arrives. He’s probably not that well know at this time but he’s got a non-stop motor and nice size at 6’1″, 240 lbs. he moves extremely well to the ball and he’s one of those guys who’s off in the right direction when he recognizes the play; which is usually pretty quick. He’s also a versatile 3 down guy who can cover and he can rush the passer. they use him off the edge and on blitzes up the middle.
Keep an eye on this kid because before the draft arrives you’ll probably be hearing more about him.
Actually GDP, he does or did in that game. I was watching and thinking to myself man the first round QBs in that draft all are turning out to be duds. He makes a lot of the same mistakes Tanny does. How does comparing him to another failing QB make your case?
only failing first rd qb I care about is ours. I don’t care about anyone else’s because I don’t root for those other teams.
I cringed when we took tannehill and have been cringing ever since. knew it was going to be a long four years but I never imagined I’d have to put up with him in year five because I didn’t think we’d be stupid enough to re-sign him. dammit!!
See I didn’t cringe when we took him but I cringe every time he drops back to pass now.
Most O-lines stink!! That’s why. It’s hard to play QB in this league with OL coming in totally unprepared for the NFL. It’s been a 5+ year problem due to the college game. Many former personnel people and coaches have spoke about it. The quality of football is lacking early on regardless of talent.
So before I get accused of defending Tannehill, this goes for the entire league and what I’m seeing. 🙂
Tim,
The difference is most O-lines do ONE thing well, whether that be run blocking or pass blocking- we do neither. It’s mind boggling to me that we haven’t been able to do one of those correctly in the last I don’t know how many years. Maybe the talent is as good as we think it is on the OL, despite their lofty draft status. I would have changes the OL this week and switched Tunsil for Albert. Maybe they are waiting to see what it looks like with Pouncey in there, but IMO he’
s a bit overrated.
Didn’t want to start this early but making up my draft list already and I actually included a couple guys I didn’t think we’d have a shot at:
DE’s
Myles Garrett
Charles Harris
Derek Barnett
LB’s
Reuben Foster
Zach Cunningham
Jarrad Davis
Calvin Munson
S
Jabril Peppers
OL
Adam Bisnowaty
Dorian Johnson
Pat Elfein
Ethan Pocic
RB
Samaje Perin
James Conner
You really like Reuben Foster?
I think he looks good too
Probably an early pick (days 1 or 2)
There will be other LBs available but he might be a difference maker
Peppers has a lot of positive press as well
Im not going into draft mode this early but I agree with Tim. The next four games will say a lot and the whole team looks bad. Fede should be dumped. Mario has been bad. Wake isn’t in the game often, that OL of 1st rounders is always hurt, our CBs need experience, Alonso is our only healthy solid LB(HOW?! lol). Parker is disappointing and our QB…enough said lol.
A ;lot of this can be fixed but we will see if it will be fixed. We really need LBs, DEs, and maybe a QB and CB next draft lol. I see some good but Im tired of us keeping injury prone players and getting injury prone vets in FA. Let’s get Albert, Foster, Cameron. We already have broken Misi, Parker, and Pouncey. Do any of those 6 every stay healthy past a few games now?
Mostly I agree
I don’t think Parker is disappointing
He’s on course after missing not 1 game for over 50 catches and 700 yards
Sure it’s not 1000 and 100 catches
But with the volume Landry is targeted, he’s doing alright
It’s early
But Parker, Ajayi and Drake get away with slow starts IMO
And neither is a focal point of the offense
Over he course of the year I hope we target Landry less
And spread the ball more to Parker and Stills and even Caroo
But early on, I don’t think it’s crazy to rely on Landry who has proven to be a reliable target
I’m okay with that aspect of the offense
I was a tanny supporter but after what I’ve seen from him the last 2 game I think we need to invest a high draft pick in 17 on a QB. He just doesn’t have it.
2 passes the last game showed exactly why tanny is not the answer. 3rd and 1 over throw to gray and the INT at the end of the game when we still had a chance.
Those passes where he wasn’t under pressure should be completed by a 5th year supposed franchise QB.
I’m not sure we have to prioritize QB next year even if Tanny never gets Better
I would probably bring in some competition
Guys like Russell Wilson, Garoppolo, and Dak Prescott are not 1st rounders
Plus Tanny may have been really bad the last 2 games
But I bet he is better before the season is done with familiarity in this offense
I just don’t think he is a franchise QB
I would rather build up the team and bring in competition for him than to say “move on”
If we get high draft compensation it’s worth considering
I never said move on. We do exactly what the Eagles did with bradford. They draft a QB and then waited for the right deal to move bradford, once they were comfortable with Wentz.
If Ross really wanted to win with tanny then he should have hired a defensive coach that would make his team play good defense and real commitment to run. Instead Ross hired coaches that build offenses around peyton manning and aaron rodgers. Sorry that’s not tanny and it’ll never be tanny. I would trade him to a team that has a coach like zimmer, or rex ryan.
Boulder,
It’s funny how coaching works.
Bill Cowher was discussing the Jets-Seattle game and was saying that when an O is struggling; specifically when the QB is struggling, he always went run heavy as much as possible because the main important thing to him was avoiding turnovers always.
Interesting
I really wouldn’t be surprised if we run he ball 30+ times in the next couple of games
The important thing is – don’t fall behind
It’s a long season and RT does have good moments so I will just have to sit here and hope the coaching staff and players get on the same page and have a light bulb moment.
From the article,
“We’ve gone through this before twice,” he said. “2012 [in Denver] we sputtered around, went 2-3, we looked terrible, and then it clicked and we rattled off the last 11 straight. Last year in Chicago, it was the same thing. We struggled early and the more comfortable I got with the quarterback [Jay Cutler] and he got with me, it makes things easier. He made less mistakes.”
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article105631641.html#storylink=cpy
Barry Jackson @flasportsbuzz 32m32 minutes ago
Agent for Dominique Jones says Dolphins are re-signing the tight end. Had open roster spot. Cameron’s concussion an issue.
Pig — your analogy of what it is like to be a QB in the pocket is a good one. I might go with blinders (even that a horse thing) rather than the full blind fold but unseen dangers everywhere. Part of why it is the toughest jobs in the NFL.
Unfortunately Tanny doesn’t have the eyes in the back of the head thing going like Marino did, but he at least this year has gotten better at throwing it away when he should instead of taking the sack.
i think the QB position is 2nd nature to a lot of QBs
And it doesn’t feel like it’s 2nd nature to Tanny
It doesn’t feel like he is learning the NFL (he should be in year 5) it feels like he is learning the position
I hear you Boulder
I think though we have to be prepared for Tannehill to be the QB in ’17 as well
I don’t know that we draft a QB with a very high pick unless we trade Tannehill
I just think we stop treating him like he is the golden child
Like he deserves to be one of the highest paid players in the team, like he can’t be benched when he messes up or like he is above competition
If I’m looking to pay another player
I might look to Tannehill to take a pay cut
I’m frustrated watching Tannehill too
And we can’t avoid watching him bc he touches the ball on every offensive snap so that heightens the criticism
But I don’t want to blow everything up
I want to bring in talent through the draft and to a degree through free agency
I think k we hurt ourselves by constantly discarding players we are frustrated with
If we just bring in as much talent as possible and we let those best talent rise to the top – we will be fine
Despite Tannehill’s play I think we might still be gearing up for a heavy defensive draft
You can build a good defense around Suh and Jones
And we have a couple of young players in Howard and Phillips to work with
Even Alonso can be a workable piece
Cameron being out is practically irrelevant
what a shitty signing!
I wish we had Clay
51 catches last year
I’ve been saying this for a while Signing Cameron instead of clay last year was one of the dumbest moves I’ve seen this org make. What did we gain by that? Its not like we couldn’t pay clay.
Poor Bene
Late round draft pick expected to replace Norman and cover Julio Jones
What a nightmare
FYI he was a 5th rounder in 2014
piggy,
I wouldn’t be surprised if Moore took more than usual first team snaps this week. Tanny needs to be on notice. Also I wouldn’t be surprised if Gase wants to draft his own QB. He has no loyalty to Tanny. So I’m not gonna say we won’t draft QB high in 2017. It really depends on how we finish the season and where we pick.
I think we are living a lie to think this offense can be more productive with either Moore or Doughty (at least Doughty right now)
And although I can appreciate putting Tanny on notice – and we’ve seen Gase do it to other players, I don’t think the issue with Tanny is a lack of motivation or anything mental that needs to change
he is just not very natural in the pocket
and that makes him a much worse QB than he could be
So how does he get there or will he ever get there are the 2 issues we need to solve?
(Piggy shrugs at the solution)
Maybe we see Gase roll him out a little more vs Tennessee
I don’t love it – bc I don’t think you can run an offense that way but maybe Gase emphasizes his strengths as part of the gameplan – IMO that’s only temporary relief
but we need the win
so maybe we see a lot of Tanny on the move, Tanny in the read option, and a heavy does of running the ball in the next game (30+ carries)
and not a lot of Tannehill in the pocket
teams are gonna take it away if we rely on that
but I think to squeeze out some wins and squeeze out some points it can work
I wouldn’t bench Tannehill before the game
but if he turns the ball over during the course of the game – then maybe I would
that would probably be my approach for now while I search for a long term solution if I was Gase
Not so bene
LOL
He’s actually in his 3rd year
and he is their answer for replacing Norman….oops
Norman was a late round pick as was Richard Sherman
so it works sometimes with shutdown cbs
but so far not so good with bene
I don’t take a lot of strong stands, but I was very against signing Cameron from the get-go. He’s LOW impact all the way. He’s done nothing since he’s been here, as useless as a third nipple.
I love 3rd nipples
the more nipples the happier pig
You broke the first rule of blogging
know your audience
I think last season proved you don’t have to have the best QB to win in the nFL, and in fact, win the SB. We got better QB play w/Tannehill than Peyton Manning gave the Broncos, but they had a more complete team, with a solid rushing attack, and the leagues best defense. We can win like that too, but we don’t run with the ball and our defense rarely shows up in crunch time, just like our QB. Both are absent with the chips fall. Tannehill has been a middle of the road QB for his entire career, very rarely has he been worse than that, but for some, that just doesn’t cut it. It’s very narrow-minded IMO, but it is what it is.
This is exactly why I am so perplexed with our offseason which seemed to be more about building a high octane passing game
than what we can do with the sum of our current parts
I wanted to keep Miller, give him a lot more carries
and bring in young defenders to surround around Suh and Jones
I don’t regret the Tunsil pick
and Howard fits the mold
but I think we were lying to ourselves with that Alonso and Maxwell pickup – we would have been better served with draft picks than shitty vets who were “instant starters” and we got really derailed in the 3rd round
we could have drafted LBs and DBs there that could have at least pushed for playing time
‘We can win like that too, but we don’t run with the ball and our defense rarely shows up in crunch time, just like our QB. Both are absent with the chips fall.’
I agree with that for everything but this year. the qb did show up in crunch time at the end of the seahawks and cheats game. it was the def that disappeared. not that it makes tanny anything more then an ok qb but he did show up at the end of those two games this year
He definately showed up in the Patriots game
We really can’t ask anything more than him that that
I’m not sure you can argue that about the Seahawks game albeit you can definatley argue the defense folding when we needed them
True Rob, I said that myself, but that was rare for him. He did put us in position to win, but the narrow-minded will say his early failures caused the defense to be tired out. It’s all a bunch of crap. Narrow-minded garbage. I’m so tired of it, I can’t even tell you. It’s like unless you hate Tannehill, you can’t have any idea that he’s an average QB with poor pocket presence, and so far hasn’t shown the ability to lead his team to victory at the end of games. We can’t see any of his limitations, we think he’s just the bees knees. I also know the kid is working hard to improve, he always has, he plays every game, no matter how banged up he is, he hangs in there, and maybe just maybe, everything clicks. If you don’t think that’s possible, it’s time to put practice squad hero Brandon Doughty in for the rest of the season. unfuckingbelievable!
Have any of you seen the Sebastian Maniscalco Showtime comedy special? I say it’s must watch. Check it out!
Blow it up!
Where did I leave the friggin dynamite?
Gasoline anyone?
Ken
the last thing we should do is blow it up
we should build off what we do have IMO
I think blowing it up is just to keep fans happy temporarily
and then we are starting from scratch again and waiting to see who fails and succeeds
and at best we end up being average
When I watch the good teams I see they stick with their talent through thick and thin
The Panthers stuck with veteran Thomas Davis through a lot of bad years and now he is huge for them (or at least in 2015)
the Falcons stuck with Matt Ryan for the last couple of years and he is probably the league MVP for the first qtr of the year
You really have to build off success and not react to failure
Totally agree. Build around the talent you have, try to keep a system in place for some time, and get the right people in that work well with the system you want to run. We have let Gase build the team he wants.
Piggy
Lamar Miller is only averaging 3.8YPC, not bad, but way off his lofty average when he was getting 15 carries a game. Now averaging 23 carries a game, I guess we can see his limitations as he gets to 20 or more. He also has ZERO TD’s, and his longest run of the season so far is 15 yards. Doesn’t seem especially elite to me.
This kind of comparison does nothing for me
the issue is we had to think about replacing him in the draft
which took us away from adding another quality player
Do you really think if we had Miller on our roster now he would not have performed better than the guys we currently have?
it took 4 games for some one to surpass our QB in rushing yards
whereas Miller would have opened the year as starter and given us stability from out of the gate instead of what ended up happening at the position at RB
Maybe he is not elite
but building a team takes a certain amount of stability and that is what Mille roffered us instead of devolving into the unknown at RB
when you have an elite QB you can probably afford to let a good rb go – but instead we end up having questions at two spots
Miller and Zeke are the 2 backs getting the most carries per game, that’s why Miller has 351 yards, but he’s not doing a lot though. Very pedestrian numbers man. Certainly nothing that makes me feel like “If we only had Lamar Miller”.
piggy and mike
first i completely disagree with the bs of ‘the qb pulled the game out’ i find it all a joke. it takes a whole team to win a game and not just the qb completing some passes towards the end of the game during a game winning drive.
did carr pull out that game yesterday…….aahhhh i am pretty sure the raiders def had to go back on the field to hold the ravens. so maybe the d pulled out the game…..either way it is all bs.
i just find this pure hatred of tanny some have on here funny how narrow minded they look at this god awful team and football in general
Fans hate on players all the time. The QB position is no different. I don’t think its easy to argue that Tannehill is a good QB right now. No one defends other players like they defend Tanny and that ends up increasing the venon in the debate. But that’s a chicken and the egg argument.
Whether or not the defense is good or bad does not make Tanny good or bad. In my view.
The Ravens/Radiers game is a good analogy and I agree with the point you have made. Its not JUST on the QB. It does take a complete game from anyone most of the time or at least it takes your defense to come through some of the time in the clutch
but most NFL games are a few plays away from wins and the final drive ends up being a huge factors. So your QB needs to answer the bell consistently and that is what separates the good qbs in the league from the rest and often makes a difference between a playoff contender and one that is not.
If we had a potent offense and a bad defense I will feel better about our chances to be a contender sooner rather than later
but with both flubbing – I am left thinking, “why have we made the moves we have made”?
and that takes me to the belief that Tannehill is a franchise QB, which he is not IMO
Is Newton really a franchise QB? Does one year a franchise QB make? He was no better or worse than Tannehill for parts of his career.
Build off of what? An overpriced DL? A few good WRs? One promising LT? Ain’t enough to build around. Burn the fucker down and Tannenbaum with it
I see no reason to build around any of these gutless, heartless and emotionless bunch of losers on this roster. Blow this shit stye up!
there are a few players that we should keep like jones and landry maybe phillips and tunsil.
at is really all it takes
we should really keep anyone under contract unless there is no cap hit
Don’t you get tired of saying that
we are just repeated the same mistakes we always make
And that is crazy
Piggy
I don’t think we’d be any better with Miller, really and truly. We haven’t committed to running the ball at all, and I really don’t think it’s because of a lack of talent.
It’s not only the draft Piggy, it’s paying too much for an average RB. Miller is getting his chance, and he’s been unimpressive so far. 93 rushes and nothing longer than 15 yards, and no TD’s. Big deal.
3-1 record and winning time of possession battle for Texans. Blow up Tannenbaum
think its bc we are behind in games like the Patriots game and even the Browns game early
But I agree
that’s no different than last year
I think its more about the need to draft a player like Drake which did not need to be a need
I though our offseason was head scratching
I’d sooner say if only we rushed one of our RB’s, or even all of them combined 25 times per game, than say if only we had Miller.
Ken
Now you hit on something I can agree with. I’d axe Mr. T in a millisecond. I don’t like what he’s about, and I hate that he has the reins, but we’re going to have live with it. This is one thing that OD is right about. Ross likes Mr. T, and IMO, that’s bad for the Dolphins.
Bingo
Yeah well I can’t say any of this is wrong
and I do think OD has made a lot of points about Ross that are worth considering
except that I don’t like to spend too much time talking about ownership
for what its worth I don’t think a new GM is blowing it up
I think blowing it up is more about what we see on the field
You can change executives somewhat seamlessly but you have to pick the right one who hopefully doesn’t have his hand on the button
If you pick another Parcells czar that tears the thing down from the inside out, Its blowing it up
it really depends on the GM
Piggy:
I get tired of every year thinking we have something to build around on this roster. I am tired of thinking every year we are a couple of players away from respectability. We’re not
Piggy
We were down 21 points before Tanny even had a chance to screw everything up. The defense didn’t show up that game.
^ Patriots game
You forget that the first few drives were 3 and outs
But what are you arguing here?
I have complimented Tannehill on that game
Mike
come on Newton vs Tannehill
its really not even close
Newton has proven to be MVP material
I actually think Matt Ryan has proven to be that as well
and he has had some down moments
Tannehill has yet to hit anywhere near those peaks
and he can’t, bc he can’t hide his weaknesses
If Tannehill had a season like Newton did last year he would be able to coast through the next 5 years without scrunity from me
MVP material for one season. The rest, not so much. It’s all there to see, go look at it.
I’ve seen his stats
I take them in a millisecond
I don’t understand why you always digress into a” Cam Newton isn’t so good argument” like it has anything to do with the Dolphins
If a talking head on a National Network said Tannehill was better or the same than either Luck or Newton – they would be laughed off the stage
its a ridiculous position that I keep hearing Dolfans make
Tannehill is at least one tier below those guys
good player shave ups and downs
bad players have some up and too many downs
You guys realize you are comparing Tannehill to good QBs having their down times
If every time a good QB has a misstep we compare him to Tannehill – that means that Tannehill is not very good. Wake me up when we compare Tannehill to a QB who is having a good year.
I’m not going to fall for the argument that Tannehill can be as good as QBs at their best bc he is as bad as QBs at their worst
I needed a few days to calm down. This is me more calm posting than say Friday or Saturday
LOL – Hulk always angry!
I was too angry to even write a new piece
3 home games, a bye and another home game. If this team is going to salvage the season they have to go 3-1 in those games. Nothing is getting blown up this season and it’s likely RT will start all 4 of those games. That’s the season right there.
I think I need to see things for long term success in the next 4 games to really get excited
The season is still young
This is a great chance to right the ship. No travel for 5 weeks. If it’s not going to happen during this stretch I can’t see it happening afterwards.
Piggy
3 and out is on the QB? That’s the kind of narrow-minded thinking I can’t tolerate. Do you realize how many players are responsible on each play? C’mon
Forget it
I’m not having this debate with you
You aren’t even discussing what I said
OK, let’s drop it. Look at the play-by-play from that game, if you think we were losing 21-0 because of the QB, than you’re right, no need to discuss. Yes, you praised him for his play in the 2nd half, but you’re also implying he’s at fault for going down 21-0.
Hulk has to get ready to go to court. Hulk smash puny plaintiff!
Go get ’em Hulk! Good luck!
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-miami-dolphins-sign-dominique-jones-to-53-man-roster-20161003-story.html
Dominique a nic a nic?
Ahh the missing piece. We’re playoffs bound now. LOL
It’s just roster info. We signed Jones because Cameron is out and we released Douglas after signing him to the 53 for the Bengals game but with Pouncey coming back they waived him again and he could go back to the PS.
LOL Boulder, I thought the same, you typed it. lol
By the way Piggy funny stuff in this article. Love the pig foot reaching for the hand. That’s a funny image.
YES!!!! This was very well done, very funny!
Here is my way of looking at things,
not that anyone cares what a library cop thinks: I don’t even care what a library cop thinks……but you put on a shirt and shoes fella when you enter…..never mind….I started ranting.
In order to get some kind of enjoyment out of watching these games, I am going to focus my efforts on enjoying the games they win, and forgetting about the ones they lose. I cannot afford to emotionally invest in the losses anymore, because there really is nothing I can do about it..LOL
If the QB sucks…fix it, if the LBs suck…fix it, if the OL or DL sucks…fix them, if the play calling sucks…fix it, if the GM sucks, fix it……I actually am not smart enough to know what the problem has been for the last 30 years, but it is too depressing to think about, and I have no control over it anyway….I am just going to enjoy the fun and entertainment a win brings, and sometimes even losses, when they are good games.
This is why I cannot wait for the FEST no matter what their record is!
That’s a good way to look at it so you don’t get too depressed. LOL
Good plan
here is another way to get some enjoyment out of your gameday experience
Mike
immediately after the patriots game I blamed the defense
I was very impressed by Tanny in that game
we almost won base don his performance in spite of the defense
it was a slow start but it irrelevant at the end of the day \the entire game was bad by our defense
and all we had to do was slow down a 3rd string QB in the 2nd half and we could not
I’ve actually said this ALOT in the past few weeks
you are way off in what you are discussing
Its just not anywhere near what I have said or ever said.
I recognize our defense is bad
Our QB is also not very good
One does not cancel out the other
but our defense being bad has nothing to do with anything I’ve said today
I wanted to add defense last offseason
I want to add it this offseason
I think our personel on defense is very bad, with the exception of a couple of very good players
none of that makes me think Tannehill is a good QB
That’s fine, nowhere have I argued that Tannehill IS a good QB either, just so we’re straight on that.
Piggy,
Im disappointed in Parker because he’ rarely healthy. He may also run lackluster routes, The guy seems like a part time player and how will we ever focus on a guy that isn’t doing all he can to get to that point? Elite talent but will he ever stay healthy and motivated?
I agree with Piggy. Miller may not be elite this year but his money asked was very affordable and Tannehill was used to him. He’s a hell of a lot better than Foster sitting at home every week or the RB by committee approach. Keep your young, good talent and build on it. Don’t draft another darn RB early because you said the position isn’t worth the money? That’s incredibly stupid. Draft picks are worth more than a few million dollars.
Defense needed adjustments too so Im not going to be too hard on them. They played fantastic run D this week and we all knew young CBs were a weakness. Doesn’t mean this past week wasn’t all on the offense . The RBs did their job. The OL was average at best and we can’t keep any of these stay puffs healthy. Tannehill had some glaring faults this week. Often repeated faults that do diminish hope he will improve. His lack of 3rd down conversions destroyed us this week. The OC mentioned it, the talking heads mentioned it, and it’s just a fact. Your QB has to convert those third downs unless you are ripping off huge chunks of running yards which we are not built to do yet. If you aren’t on the field(and we haven’t been in any game), then you cant score. You can’t get those running yards. You cant keep the D fresh. We need more drives and less 3 and outs.
poor route running from a rookie is nothing unexpected or new
Its possible that that injury issue is a thing of the pass
generally just too early to judge
Yeah, it’s early but he just hasn’t shown much. A few hints here and there but the truly elite guys were banging it out as rookies. He can’t even stay healthy.
I can’t believe people are actually saying trade tanny for cutler LOL.
That would be a downgrade
where is that being said? Twitter?
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/10/would-jay-cutler-be-a-serious-possibility-for-the-dolphins.html
Who the hell is saying that?
Yeah not happening.
That is pure stupidity. I’d pretty much stop watching until he was gone.
Im also going to repeat something I heard from some talking heads that makes perfect sense. They were talking about the “Manning/ Dilfer” outlier and how false it is. That all these people use an incredibly rare event as a hope outlet that really isn’t the least bit realistic. Two teams in the past 25 years had a bad QB and won the SB? Shouldn’t we be trying to do it the more frequent way? Also, they mentioned these QBs did not turn the ball over especially when it counted. Tannehill is turning it over almost faster than he is scoring. We will not get in the playoffs with a turnover prone QB. Either he fixes this, or he does need to be replaced for a true Alex Smith type or someone with higher potential to ‘get’ the position. As Piggy said earlier, Tannehill looks like he is trying to learn the position instead of trying to learn NFL speed. It’s a huge difference especially this late in his career.
I think we are probably closer to building a gods defense than finding a franchise QB
And you can do that
And then bring in a guy
We can probably switch to a team that runs more often until we find our guy
I don’t think we need to terminate our relationship with Tanny and draft a QB in the first round
I think we can take a different approach than we did in 2012
We don’t have to be desperate to find out guy
And we don’t have to say Tannehill is hopeless either
So I would focus on making the defense better in the short term
I agree. He’s here for sure next year so we really need to get those difference makers like Carolina did that one year. A top LB and DE prospect, another CB just to have him, and then just fill in other holes. We are so weak in a few places and Wake and Mario and place holders now. Get the replacements now while we still have time. Our FO is so poor at fixing issues before they become issues. No foresight at all. It’s really bad.
Lol Boulder
Mando is probably right in his response
That is just pundit fodder
Bc Tanny has played poorly
And bc Gase has worked with Cutler before and probably got the best out of cutler
But I don’t think there is even a remote chance it happens
I don’t think they trade Tannehill before Nov 1 either
There is always crazy talk out there I guess
This One is not based on any insider information
In fact Mandos response pretty much nails it
The Flying Pig says:
October 3, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Good plan
here is another way to get some enjoyment out of your gameday experience
Funny you should say that, because that is pretty close to how it is for me on game day, just imagine those as Captain Morgan pint mixers and it is really close. Plus the place I go watch the games is called “Gameday”
Sounds like a perfect Sunday!
Not for the Uber driver
Probably our biggest issue is a bad FO. They never fix issues ahead of time and never really fix bigger issues. Why in the world are we weak at CB, LB, and OG still?!! They have zero foresight and they always look for the flash instead of the true problems.
Does anyone have faith they target a top LB, or DE this draft? That we get replacement for Wake, Mario, or our poor injury prone LBs this upcoming draft? I don’t have faith even though they are glaring issues. Add in TE to the mix. We need someone early in the second or third to be difference makers. Will we draft a CB even though they are always a need? Never can have too many?
I really don’t get our last offseason
I think they were looking to have a few things magically fix themselves
The FO is definately the most deserving of criticism IMO
It’s really just year one with this group. We were a 6-10 team last year, things had to change. Not easy to change everything in one offseason.
You change the GM and HC personnel changes are going to happen. This is where we are.
I almost forgot
Its Game Week
DOLPHINS-TITANS
GO PHINS!!!
Bounce back
Dolphins 33 Titans 14
New Age,
Best thing I ever heard a GM speak to on how to build a team was bill polian on the subject matter.
He basically said that unless you are in position to draft an elite QB outright; do not bother chasing after a great QB in the draft (e.g. trading away picks) or shelling out a fortune in the FA for one. He said you build strength on D, add some weapons around the QB and then you will luck (no pun intended) into a QB situation with a team already built around the position like what Denver did when they had an opportunity to get Manning (the team was highly attractive to him and made it easy to choose over Miami if it were even an option).
Love listening to Polian on NFL radio. Easily my favorite.
The same thing Dungy said awhile back. Draft pass rushers early when they’re available and he believes you can find LBs and CBs in other rounds.
TEN 41 MIA 3
Just kidding, that was the old Fest score.
MIA 31 – TEN 17
woop woop
Miami 30-13
woop woop woop
It’s funny everyone is down on the QB and team in general but now we’re seeing convincing wins being picked.
s wishful thinking
Sad Story about fans acting like assholes
Raiders fans beat up a 55 year old former Marine at a game yesterday
what assholes
I saw that. It’s a friggin game guys. Total assholes.
One of them 2 guys was a newly sworn in firefighter
he threw away his life for this
The guy they beat up with his wife and another couple
Yep!
Tim
The lights gonna come on, I believe that, so I keep hoping it’s going to be THIS week, every freaking week. lol
I so hope you’re right. Be right Mike, be right. 🙂
Don’t worry. Tannehill will throw for 300 yards on Sunday and everyone will be back to riding his jock. It has been foretold.
Well we all want him to play well.
Albert says: “[Pouncey] is probably the leader of the offense, probably the leader of the team.”
Wow, if that is actually true, it’s no wonder this team sucks and has been completely without leadership for years. And, the only reason he’s a “pro bowl” player is his last name.
his brother was tearing it up last night
new age,
I 100% that our biggest issue is our FO. That’s what really needs to be fixed
That won’t be the dialogue Randy
The Dialogue will be – “Can he do it consistently”
Of course for others it will be “See Tannehaters you were wrong”
It’s totally about consistency with him. We’ve all seen him play well.
He’s like a pitcher who has good stuff but doesn’t always have good control of his stuff so he never reaches another level.
That’s a good analogy
the flaws he has hold him back
and he can’t make up for it by just getting better at the stuff he is good at
He needs to bring some thing sup to NFL level to progress
OK
I vote blow it up!
Could someone email everyone when it’s time to care about the Fins again! 🙂
Except that’s not going to happen. We basically did just blow it up but it can’t all be done in one offseason.
its like blowing up a bomb site at this point
LOL
Tim,
Yes, but the bipolar nature of fans humors me. Lol
Most sports fans are like that. LOL
https://twitter.com/MDC__Monica/status/782296324494483456
she’s one of my 10 -12 most favorite ones.
hey are all my #1 until I see the next one
I don’t care if he has one good game. I’m not back on board until I see a season of good. He doesn’t have to be elite each game but good solid play for an entire game for an entire season. People are right we do t need a Rogers or Brady to win, but you do need an Alex Smith, or Russell Wilson and he isn’t even close at this point.
Hi everyone! Son’s beers will be shipped by Wednesday at the latest. I’ll forward a tracking number to Herd as soon as I have one.
Sorry I’ve been so mia, 80 hour work weeks will do that to you. Unlike the old days, I’m working on my feet and not able to follow along the blog much.
My $.02;
Defense needs to get off the field on 3rd down and offense needs better 3rd down efficiency. At one point Cinncinati had like 3x the number of offensive plays as us. You’re not going to win that way and your defense is going to be gassed before halftime.
No excuses, we’ve been a bad football team in it’s entirety. I don’t honestly know if Tannehill has the goods or not because he has a new offense every year and his OL has pretty much shit the bed every season. That said, I don’t see the point in trying to throw all the shit at him. The whole team needs to stand in front of the fan, because they’re bad as a team. If Tannehill doesn’t get it right by the end of this year, I’m sure the organization will move on, so that problem will take care of itself one way or another.
Randy says:
October 3, 2016 at 2:36 pm
Don’t worry. Tannehill will throw for 300 yards on Sunday and everyone will be back to riding his jock. It has been foretold.
who cares if he does and they still end up losing?
Still waiting!
‘My $.02;
Defense needs to get off the field on 3rd down and offense needs better 3rd down efficiency. At one point Cinncinati had like 3x the number of offensive plays as us. You’re not going to win that way and your defense is going to be gassed before halftime.
No excuses, we’ve been a bad football team in it’s entirety. I don’t honestly know if Tannehill has the goods or not because he has a new offense every year and his OL has pretty much shit the bed every season. That said, I don’t see the point in trying to throw all the shit at him. The whole team needs to stand in front of the fan, because they’re bad as a team. If Tannehill doesn’t get it right by the end of this year, I’m sure the organization will move on, so that problem will take care of itself one way or another.’
didnt you say that last ye….i mean the year before last….no wait, you said that 3 year….i mean 4 years ago
Keep Hope Alive
Good to see you Jahn
Our punter sucks. He never scores!
Team MVP!
In it’s saddest form! 😦
Hey Jahn!
How the brewing going?
They went to an AFC Championship game in the 90s and lost to the Bills. They also had a few of other good seasons in the 90s and went to the playoffs a bunch of times so this sign isn’t accurate. 🙂
Howie
38-13 Miami
‘Sup Piggy and Wyo! Brewing is going well Wyo. We just had our 1st anniversary and had 3000 visitors over the course of a weekend (Fri-Sun)!
I’ve done 125 turns of my brewhouse and somewhere around 2000 barrels of beer in the first year (31gallons per barrel fyi). The logistics of the that much beer (several hundred TONS of grain has been used, thousands of pounds of hops and 10s of thousands of labor hours) has my head spinning. Never ending inventories of bottles, crowns, keg collars, glassware, cleaning supplies, finings, fittings, kegs, never ending equipment failures that must be solved on the spot……..but get this…I freakin’ love it! 🙂
Jahn, good to see you here and glad the brewery is going well.
I also agree with your state of the Dolphins commentary. If this team is prideful a lot of guys need to step up their game.
First Update
DOLPHINS-TITANS
Piggy 33-14 MIA
MikeE 31-17 MIA
Naples 30-13MIA
B’man 38-13 MIA
Howie 30-10 TEN
GO PHINS!!!
Howie: 28-23 Phins.
Jahndoh30 says:
October 3, 2016 at 5:40 pm
Howie: 28-23 Phins.
now we know why you are working so hard, apparently you are drinking half of everything you brew
Lol…come one FFR, When have you known me to pick against the Fins?
Jahndoh30 says:
October 3, 2016 at 6:31 pm
Lol…come one FFR, When have you known me to pick against the Fins?
ohhh, i wasnt saying anything about you picking the fins, just saying you drink half of everything you make. 🙂
Nice to see you around the boards Jahn.
Any Double IPA being brewed up at your place?
I’ve been into those.
Wyo,
Your Pallbearers meme had me cracking up for a bit lol.
Good to see Jahn but I still want to blow everything up
Ken, Was Hulk one of the pallbearers?
Jahndoh30 says:
October 3, 2016 at 4:50 pm (Edit)
‘Sup Piggy and Wyo! Brewing is going well Wyo. We just had our 1st anniversary and had 3000 visitors over the course of a weekend (Fri-Sun)!
I’ve done 125 turns of my brewhouse and somewhere around 2000 barrels of beer in the first year (31gallons per barrel fyi). The logistics of the that much beer (several hundred TONS of grain has been used, thousands of pounds of hops and 10s of thousands of labor hours) has my head spinning. Never ending inventories of bottles, crowns, keg collars, glassware, cleaning supplies, finings, fittings, kegs, never ending equipment failures that must be solved on the spot……..but get this…I freakin’ love it!🙂
What’s the saying? Find what you love to do and you’ll never work a day in your life. I’m glad to know someone that is actually doing that. Thanks again Jahn!
‘What’s the saying? Find what you love to do and you’ll never work a day in your life. I’m glad to know someone that is actually doing that. Thanks again Jahn!’
hey that isnt true, i mean i found what i love to do but for some reason every time i try paying my bills with what i love to do i get another restraining order.
Boom
JAHN; GREAT to see you back!! –The last time I worked 80 hour weeks I was in Dick Nixon’s army doing portable X-Rays on American napalm and agent orange patients at the burn treatment center at Brooke Army Medical Center for just over $100 a month. Didn’t bitch. I could have been one of the patients, so I NEVER complained.
Congrats for your achievements!
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Sadly, I believe we are no closer to a winning season this year than we were last season. Or the season before. Or the season before that. This will be the 8th consecutive non-winning season under the ownership of Steve Ross. Ross has consistently picked the WRONG PEOPLE to lead this franchise, especially in the front office. Maybe, some day, he’ll make a terrific hire. Per ESPN, Big Ben’s QBR last night was 98.7 out of 100 (50 is average). Tannehill’s total QBR vs. Cincy was 29th in the NFL (something like 16 or 18 out of 100). O-Line lack of quality depth means our QB’s have little chance to succeed. Thanks for NOTHING, Tannenbaum!!
HOWIE—–HOWIE—-
Old 20-17 TEN
There is Al’s guy Perkins
Terrific player