2017 NFL Draft – Offensive Line

Alrighty then, let’s take a look at the big boys . . .

Forrest Lamp OT/OG 6’4” 309 Western Kentucky

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Lamp is one of the highest rated OL in the 2017 NFL draft. He’s a versatile lineman who has played mostly at tackle, but has also played inside at OG. Much like Cowboys OG Zack Martin, Lamp is considered a very clean prospect who can likely play anywhere on the OL. He was a 4 year starter at LT, and although he played for a small program at Western Kentucky, most scouts feel he will transition to the NFL as an early starter. NFL.com has Lamp rated at 6.2. Lamp did well at the combine running a 5 second 40, putting up 34 reps, did a 111.00” broad jump, and a 7.55 cone, all in the top performer category. I think he would be an impact pick at #22, as he would start immediately at one of the OG spots.
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Pat Elflein OC/OG 6’3” 303 Ohio State

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Elflein is truly a versatile pick, as he has played all the interior OL positions at Ohio State, and did it well. Playing both LG and RG, his Senior year, coaches asked Elflein to move to C, and he was considered a first team All American. Compared to Cowboys All-Pro C Travis Frederick, Elflein is a strong leader. Not impressive at the combine, Elflein probably needs work in the weight room, but he does have a strong lower body, which is also important. He would definitely give us flexibility on the O-line, and also big time insurance if Pouncey were to go down again. Rated at 5.85 on NFL.com
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Dion Dawkins OT/OG 6’4” 314 Temple

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Temple tough! New Jersey native Dion Dawkins is my favorite if we don’t take Lamp at #22. Has played LT and also has played RT. Long arms and has tackle size, many see him as a good fit at OG because of his power style play. I could see him right now at RG opening up holes for Ajayi, and if you’re thinking he’s just a run blocker, this AFC West scout said this:
“I don’t know if I see him as a guard or a tackle yet, but I think he can play both. I like him because I think he could upgrade our pass protection inside if we did bump him to guard, but he’s athletic enough to play right tackle, too.” Dawkins is rated at 5.8 by NFL.com
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Dorian Johnson OG 6’5” 300 Pittsburgh

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Came to Pittsburgh as a 5 start recruit as a tackle, but was convinced to play G after playing 2 games at tackle. 39 game starter at LG. Athletic, tough and smart player, but not a power player. Should be one of the top 5 OG’s taken in this draft. NFL comparison is Jack Mewhort. Like Dawkins, Johnson should expected to come in and start immediately for an NFL team. FTR, he didn’t pass Son’s BP test, putting up only 21 reps. Johnson was rated at 5.83 by NFL.com
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Taylor Moton OT/OG 6’5” 319 Western Michigan

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Moton has the size to play either outside or inside, and has done both at Western Michigan. He played 25 games in his first 2 season at RT, but then moved to right guard for the rest of his college career. Large frame, and huge hands, scouts feel he played better inside than out. Very strong hands though, and has a good punch. Also has a very quick first step. Since it looks like we may looking for a RG, I guess Moton fits that bill. Put up 23 reps (Still short on the Sonny Scale) but did well in the vertical and 20 yd shuttle. NFL.com has Moton rated at 5.68
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Ethan Pocic C/OG 6’6” 310 LSU

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Pocic is yet another OL that would give us flexibility, and also insurance against C Mike Pouncey going down. Pocic has played both RG and C, and yes, he did well at both positions. Pocic (pronounced Po-sick) is a pretty good athlete, and he put up 26 reps (passing on the Sonny Scale). A little tall for a C, but then again, Pouncey is 6’5”, so not a big deal. Pocic was rated at 5.7 on NFL.com, and his player comparison is Brandon Linder.
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Dan Feeney OG 6’4” 305 Indiana

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Feeney is more of a pure OG, but was asked to play RT this past season at Indiana due to injuries. Good pass protector, a little bit of nasty in him too. Thicker upper body but not so strong in his lower body, he tends have balance issues. An AFC scouting director said he wouldn’t take Feeney until day 3, not exactly a ringing endorsement. Feeney put up 26 reps (passing the Sonny Scale). NFL comparison is Clint Boling, and Feeney was rated at 5.79 by NFL.com
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Isaac Asiata  OG  6’3″ 323   Utah

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If you’re wondering, Asiata is related to RB Matt Asiata, he’s his cousin. Asiata has played RT and LG at Utah, but realistically, he’s best suited to play OG at 6’3”. Big and strong, Asiata crushed the Sonny Scale with 35 reps. He may be better off in a power scheme, and not a ZBS like we run, but he’s a mean and nasty road grader, so we’ll see how things play out. I’ve seen him mocked to MIA quite often in the mid to later RD’s, not sure if there’s anything to that. NFL.com has him rated at 5.51, and his NFL comparison is Jeremiah Poutasi.
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Lots of guys to choose from, and there are more I haven’t covered, I’m sure GDP will be happy to include the ones I forgot.  😉

I do think we will be taking an OL at some point in this draft, and I won’t at all be surprised if it’s pick #22 if the right guy is there.  We’ll see soon enough, just about 22 days away!  Next week I’ll take a look at the linebackers, and then the following week, the safeties will dance.

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380 Responses to 2017 NFL Draft – Offensive Line

  1. Randy says:

    D,
    Dammit! Tyus Bowser has been a sleeper pick for me. Now you just screwed it all up by mentioning his name. Lol

  2. Randy says:

    steve
    It’s not just the benching. It’s the conversations the coaches have with the player about why they are being benched and what they have to do to get back on the field. I assume Gase said: “We need you to do _____ if you want to get on the field. If we don’t start seeing you do it in practice, you won’t be playing.” Maybe Foster made an impact, but Foster isn’t the one who got to decide how Ajayi needed to play or when he could get back on the field. Getting benched works…especially if you feel you deserve to be playing. It’s a big slap in the face.

    • steveccnv says:

      So why didn’t Ajayi do it in preseason, especially game 4 with the starting job on the line he laid an egg? It also doesn’t explain why he ran just like Foster used to, and the way Foster left, it was like ok, my work is done here carry on, like he passed the torch.

  3. Tim Knight says:

    I remember back in the day mock drafts had us taking Terry Kirby in the 1st we got him in the 3rd and the same with JT. It might be known we’re interested in a prospect but that does not mean push them up into the 1st rd.

    • steveccnv says:

      You can have correct Intel on all the teams, and still not get it right, there’s too many variables.

  4. Randy says:

    steve,
    Maybe he was a little full of himself and felt he had the starting job wrapped up. Maybe part of benching him was giving him a little perspective about things not just being handed to him and having to keep pushing and earning it. I have no idea. Obviously, Gase felt it was necessary for some reason.

  5. Rockphin says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 7, 2017 at 9:40 am
    Mike, can we call you Mije? Are you short😆

    Steve, is that anything like Minje? As in the Ginger Minge from Game of Thrones?

  6. Rockphin says:

    How many do you have? Let’s see them. C’mon, it’ll be fun and more productive than those stupid Fanspeak drafts.

    Yeah, like Steve said, that sound too much like work to be “fun” and I don’t see how it is any more productive. None of our time on this board is productive….

  7. Mike E. says:

    Steve

    I’m not tall, think Danny Woodhead minus about 30 or so pounds

  8. The Flying Pig says:

    Tim

    Did you just refer to a Terry Kirby mock draft?

    That is crazy that you remember that!

  9. steveccnv says:

    Ok, so it fits Mike is now Mije😉

  10. wyoming85 says:

  11. Tim Knight says:
    April 7, 2017 at 2:51 pm
    I remember back in the day mock drafts had us taking Terry Kirby in the 1st we got him in the 3rd and the same with JT. It might be known we’re interested in a prospect but that does not mean push them up into the 1st rd.
    _______________________________________
    Just like it doesn’t necessarily mean we’re going to draft a prospect just because we had them work out after their pro day or we invited them to our facility for a visit. Just trying to make sure we really want someone on our board, don’t want someone on our board or make sure where we are going to have them on our board.

    We can have a completely different view of where we see that prospect in the draft or if we even want the prospect on our board.

    • D says:

      Not really jumping in on this argument, but i will say if you look back at the guys we have had in for visits in the past, we have drafted a good number of them.

  12. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 7, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    Just curious, was Lamp gone already?
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    Lamp was gone, but only he and Bolles was gone, he has Moton i guess as the 3 best OL in the draft. Cam Robinson , and Ryan Ramczyk were both there.

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    MY-Gee sounds exotic to me
    we could use some foreign influence here…

  14. D says:

    Randy says:
    April 7, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    D,
    Dammit! Tyus Bowser has been a sleeper pick for me. Now you just screwed it all up by mentioning his name. Lol
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    You and me both. I couldnt believe how under the radar he was going even after a pretty good Senior Bowl. Combine woke some people up to him but really he hasn’t been climbing until very recently. I think he needs to put on some muscle mass to be a good DE prospect, and probably only adequate in coverage as an OLB in a 4-3, but as a rush LB, and in run support, he is going to be pretty good.

  15. D says:

    So minus 30 and picture Danny woodhead….did you als forget the +50 years?

  16. Tim Knight says:

    I can’t remember a recent prospect we drafted high that we never met with and he said he had no idea we had any interest in him.

  17. son of a son of a shula says:

    I hope we had Lawson in since we’re drafting him

  18. D says:

    I put a picture of Danny Woodhead through a aging software and a weight gaining software and you kinda look like a chunky elderly meth addict. You do know that stuff is going to significantly shorten the 3 or 4 years ya got left right?

  19. D says:

    I know we had Doughty, Drake, Caroo, and Howard in last year. Tunsil probably was not someone they thought they had a chance for, but if they had brought him in thats rounds 1-4 from visits.

    The year before we had Parker, and Phillips.

    The year before that James, Landry, Turner Aikens and Fede, as well as Seamster and Robert Herron we got as UDFA’s.

    • D says:

      I think that patter says we probably should look to our visit tracker for ideas on who we might take, not that we will take them but it looks like the first few rounds generally come from that set of people.

  20. D says:

    Right now these are the 1st – 4th round prospects that have visited.
    Taco Charlton (1)
    Justin Evans (2-3)
    Josh Jones (2-3)
    Raekwon McMillan (2-3)
    Isaac Asiata (2-3)
    Dan Feeney (2)
    Malik McDowell (1-2)

    We also have a solid group of 5ths we have brought in too like:
    Shaquill Griffin
    Corn Elder (on a local visit, doesnt count against the 30)
    Deatrich Wise Jr
    Dylan Cole

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      All that does is solidify the fact we are drafting Lawson followed by Davis

      Seriously though Shaquille is a very likely candidate. I’d know the pride Herd feels for her lone Marshall guy in Hewitt.

      • D says:

        I think its highly possible that if we hadnt taken Parker, Perriman might have been a guy we selected, and you woulda had your guy then. He hasnt turned out too well though, had to redshirt due to injury his first year didnt he?

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        He did redshirt but remember he burned US for biggest scoring play so far

  21. son of a son of a shula says:

    Wow Sergio leads another major on Friday… Seen this one a million times

  22. son of a son of a shula says:

    Are we going to do our picks like we do every year?
    It’s getting down to it, 3 weeks from tonight are rounds 2 and 3

  23. son of a son of a shula says:

    Calling Boulder
    We need a sheet sir if you can

  24. D,
    I understand what you’re saying that we drafted some of the players we met with but there’s a lot more we met with that we didn’t draft so, like I said, meeting with a player either after a pro day, flying out to the college to see the player or having them in for a visit doesn’t put anything in stone.

    That’s all I’m saying. People tend to read too much into these visits and workouts. Are they interested in seeing more of what the player brings to the table? Yes. Doesn’t mean they’re going to be impressed with what they see enough to have that player high on their board.

    Just doing their due diligence to make sure the player is either someone they want or someone they don’t want, or maybe someone they want later or earlier than they previously thought.

    Cam Robinson is a perfect example. Haven’t met with him yet but he’s fallen out of the first rd due to off field issues; a 2016 arrest where weapons were confiscated. They may want to meet with him to clear things up & see what actually happened and get a better idea of the type of person he is. I’m just giving him as an example. Just like the situation with Tunsil last year.

    So, the visits gives us somewhat of a better idea but it still doesn’t necessarily mean they are players they are going to take.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I didn’t know that about Cam.
      Sometimes they might meet guys to throw others off the scent of who they really want. Lawson for example.

  25. Of the 62 players MIA met with last yr pre-draft they picked 4: Doughty, Drake, Carroo, Howard & signed 1 udfa: Scott.

  26. son of a son of a shula says:

    They said we want to get bigger and faster on the line, that’s Lawson

  27. son of a son of a shula says:

    I miss Orob giving me shit about a DE I like

  28. sb7mvp says:

    This is a funny convo. You guys are funny.

  29. Rockphin says:

    Damn, 7-1.

  30. sb7mvp says:

    Ironic funny

  31. son of a son of a shula says:

    Your posts will go through now elephant rider, welcome

  32. Randy says:

    Do people think we have a legitimate shot at Derek Barnett? That dude intrigues me, but is he really gonna be there at #22?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Maybe
      When I do a simulator he often falls
      and I take him
      But he should be a top 15 pick

    • Brian in NY says:

      There are always guys who get drafted higher than everyone thinks, so some of those other guys get pushed down. He may be one.

  33. Mike E. says:

    In an interview with Taco Charlton last night on NFL radio, he said a few teams are thinking of playing him at LB, since he ran 4.7 at his pro day

  34. Rockphin says:

    Completely nonfootball related but I hate clients who set proposal due dates for Monday’s.

    The fuckers have to know that they’re making you work over the weekend!

    I have a bid due Monday and it is not finished so I have to come in this weekend to finish it. So my boss texted me this morning earlier then he should to find out what time I was going to be in to start working on it That was enough I’m not going in today now. I’ll get it done tomorrow 😠

  35. Rockphin says:

    Did anyone see ( rhetorical question ) The final score of the Marlins / Muts game last night?

  36. Rockphin says:

    Just for the record I hate baseball but I love giving my friends the zinger

  37. Mike E. says:

    Rock

    Tell him no bids Monday, I’ll have it done for you on Tuesday

  38. wyoming85 says:

    Big Money!

    Adam Schefter‏Verified account
    @AdamSchefter

    On Atlanta’s five-year extension with CB Desmond Trufant, the deal is worth almost $69M, including $42M gtd, as @Schultz_Report reported.

    • Mike E. says:

      I like Des, he’s the guy I wanted us to draft instead of Dion FF

    • steveccnv says:

      And Walker, in his column about the last 10 guys selected at 22 mentions him as an after thought, and not a big hit. I guess it didn’t fit the agenda of the story. He sure mention Cleveland’s 3 misses.

  39. olddolphan says:

    ROCKPHIN; Counting my military and civilian jobs, I’d have to say I’ve worked about 50% of my Saturdays over the last 50+ years. At first, I was mildly put out. But I soon realized there’s great satisfaction when you complete a job/task/assignment, no matter WHAT day it is. The key, of course, is to find a job THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO PERFORM, and it will seem like more fun/less work.
    ———————-
    Tampa Bay Bucs flying in notorious running back from Oklahoma, Mixon, for a try out and interview. Local scribes don’t like it. This is the SAME Bucs team that got rid of TE Austin Sefarian-Jenkins who continues to fight alcoholism as a member of another NFL franchise. And, of course, this is the same Bucs franchise that hired a certain DB from the Dolphins who is stuck with a wife suffering from who knows what???
    ——————–
    DOWN 9-0 in the 7th inning, FAU’s baseball team fought back with a 2-out rally in the 9th to send their game against UNC-Charlotte into extra innings, where they eventually won 13-10. It’s the greatest comeback in the history of Owls’ baseball. FAU is 20-8-1 this year and NOT in the Top 25 (unlike the last several seasons). But they’re still favored to win Conference USA’s regular season title. I DON’T see them having much post season success because of a mediocre pitching staff. But, man, they can sure hit that baseball!!!
    ——————-
    Bright and sunny today in Tampa Bay with highs in the low 70’s and lows in the 50’s. Think I’ll take Mrs. OD out for a meal of ultra-fresh grouper later today!

  40. Tim Knight says:

    I’ve been watching some of the Path to the Draft stuff recently. A good defender should be there for us because there are a bunch of offensive guys who are going to go to as well.

  41. Mike E. says:

    The draft is always exciting for me, until we pick, and piss me off. lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      LOL

      I actually enjoy the post draft even more when I can really look into the prospects we drafted.

      • Mike E. says:

        Me too, it gets me pumped up for our season, and I start to dream of grander things. Especially now that we have a proper HC. Just get him the tools to work with, and he will make it happen

    • steveccnv says:

      The problem is the filler talk between picks is only 3 seconds of positive talk per hour about our team.

  42. Mike E. says:

    Steve

    The actual draft takes 4ever. I hate that. Ti is talking once the draft is over, and you have all your picks and have picked up undrafted FA’s, that’s when it’s fun. The draft itself is agonizingly slow

  43. wyoming85 says:

    22: R1P22 LB ZACH CUNNINGHAM, VANDERBILT
    54: R2P22 G DAN FEENEY, INDIANA
    97: R3P33 S EDDIE JACKSONALABAMA
    166: R5P22 EDGE DEATRICH WISE JR., ARKANSAS
    178: R5P34 LB BEN GEDEON, MICHIGAN
    184: R5P40 C JON TOTH, KENTUCKY
    223: R7P5 CB BRENDAN LANGLEY, LAMAR (TX)

  44. Tim Knight says:

    They always go to commercial right before we pick so no lead up talk then don’t talk about our pick until later on and usually cut it short. Bastards!

  45. CavalierKong says:

    I always enjoy the draft itself. It’s an excuse to get together with my friends, cook a bunch of food, and talk football in between actual draft picks. We don’t care what the talking heads are saying. We tune in for a moment when they bring up our respective teams, then tune back out when the BS starts.

  46. steveccnv says:

    What does anyone think of Deon Lacey, the LB we signed from the CFL?

  47. Randy says:

    The draft is Christmas and researching the picks if you don’t know them is opening up your presents. It’s all fun.
    ***
    And I think there will definitely be a good defensive player there for us too, if that’s the way we wanna go. There’s good defensive depth into the third round this year, I think.

  48. Randy says:

    steve
    I went and watched some video on Lacey and checked him out after we signed him. He has some promise. He looks like he could be a really good ST player if nothing else. But, he is a nice player. Sure tackler. Reads plays well. Sheds or avoids blocks pretty well. Has a little nasty in him. He’ll need to refine some stuff, but he is a hard nosed guy who plays with decent speed. Hopefully he has the right attitude, but I have no idea. People who know him say he is smart and prepared. He’s got the athleticism. Not super athlete or anything but plenty good enough. What’d you think?

    • steveccnv says:

      I only found highlights, so i didnt get to see the bad plays, but he looks like the new wave of Lbs, a little smaller with more speed. Hes a guy that can cover, and stop a play in a flash, so he should be a good nickel LB. I still see Misi playing on first down, unless maybe you pair him Hayes.

  49. sb7mvp says:

    There’s been some pretty bad Christmases over the years.

  50. son of a son of a shula says:

    This is a test of the Game Day Bitches alarm – this is only a test

    Game Day Bitches!

  51. The Flying Pig says:

    Jeff Ireland prepares for the 2013 draft

  52. Tim Knight says:

    Deon Lacey definitely looks like he’s very active. He looks fast, athletic and has really good closing speed. Plays physical too. Could be a sleeper. We’ll see how he holds up in the NFL.

  53. 3 players I really like for us: OT/G Adam Pankey, DT Jarron Jones, RB Dare Ogunbowale.

  54. Tim Knight says:

    So this is who we have on the roster at LB at the moment. Sizes and age via the official site.
    Kiko Alonso 6-3 239, 26
    Lawrence Timmons 6-1 234, 30
    Koa Misi 6-3 256, 30
    Neville Hewitt 6-2 232, 24
    Mike Hull 6-0 233, 25
    Lamin Barrow 6-1 237, 26
    Trevor Reilly 6-5 245, 29
    Deon Lacey 6-1 225, 26
    Brandon Watts 6-2 231, 26

    We can probably get away with adding one solid LB prospect via the draft and maybe a couple of UDFAs, then let the competition begin behind Alonso and Timmons. If healthy Misi will likely make the team as well.

    • steveccnv says:

      With the way contracts are these days I see us just getting the best we can at whatever position and filling in guys around them. You still need LT, CB, DE of quality though.

      I see the depth we have currently at LB enough to get through the season, but if Timmons or Alonso go down we’re screwed. Between Misi, Lacey, and Hewitt I think we’re not bad.

      • Tim Knight says:

        That’s why I think we need to add at least one good LB prospect via the draft. We need to add some more upside. A lot of competition is a good thing.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’d say Hewitt too but I put him in the competition pool due to status. Only Alonso and Timmons are locks at this point IMO.

    • steveccnv says:

      Beat writer word is the team wanted to draft 2 LBs, with STs in mind too.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’d be okay with one who is a legit candidate to play significant snaps. I think we have enough STs LBs already. Hewitt and Hull are very good and Lacey could be another. We’ll see how it all shakes out.

  55. steveccnv says:

    We’ve been quick to say the rushing D is on the LBs, but our D-Line not named Suh is to blame as well, and without Jones for 10 the safeties didn’t provide enough run support either.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Agreed. Phillips needs to take it to another level and Hayes should help. This one flies under the radar but a healthy Howard at CB will help in run support as well. He’s a good tackler and can be violent when hitting.

      • steveccnv says:

        Yes on Howard, and I think it can be almost as important as Jones. We haven’t had a tackler at CB since Vontae left. I remember watching a prime time game against Buffalo a few years back, when they had CJ Spiller, if Jones didn’t tackle him he was roaming free in our secondary. The most pathetic I’ve felt about our run D since Thurman Thomased us in that playoff game in ’95.

  56. Tim Knight says:

    This could be a large portion of our base starting defense. We all know we’ll rotate guys on the DL and use some bigger DEs in certain situations. But here’s a glimpse of what it could look like with some questions prior to the draft.

    LDE Wake
    LDT Suh
    RDT Phillips
    RDE Branch
    OLB Rookie? (high draft pick)
    ILB Alonso
    ILB Timmons
    CB Maxwell
    CB Howard
    S Jones
    S Allen

    Rotation players
    DL Hayes
    DE?
    DT?
    LB Hewitt
    LB Misi
    CB Lippett
    CB McCain
    DB Thomas
    DB ?
    *S McDonald (after 8 game suspension)

    • steveccnv says:

      I see a straight BPA the first 3 rounds, so the biggest need won’t have an effect. It was setup that way last year with the exception of CB.

      • steveccnv says:

        And Taanenbaum won’t be able to keep his hands out of his pockets, so expect some maneuvering. I hate it when it happens, but the reality is it’s better to trade up, when you see someone you really like, instead of taking a guy that’s just there when you pick.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Don’t disagree. My thinking is in the wide 9 we like to play 5-2 with an OLB on the LOS. So that could be the target. I really like Reddick in that role. But I really have no idea how say 11-21 will go. I see a pretty clear top 10 with the exception of a few, but after that I think teams with different preferences will change the landscape and it will be unpredictable. If Reddick is there he’s my favorite prospect for us. We get an athletic LB with pass rush skills.

      • steveccnv says:

        What did Gase mean when he said they spent a lot of time last year on sub packages for Misi, that were only for him? Which ones? What does he have in store for him?

  57. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, I agree with your 2:44 post. That’s how I feel. It’s like picking produce, you take what’s the best available at the time. Would you rather buy really good strawberries even if a bit pricey, or the shitty looking raspberries that you won’t eat? LOL

    • steveccnv says:

      We bought our son a suit yesterday at the Mens Warehouse, tailored, and shirts and shoes. It was the same logic, spend a little more and have them last, or just throw the shit away in a year.

  58. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, that OLB role I’m talking about is what Gase was talking about with Misi. He jammed TEs at the LOS, rushed from the edge and was a LOS presence. Didn’t last long. We then used, Jenkins, Hewitt and others at times blitzing the backfield off the weak side. We didn’t have the right personnel to really get it going and injuries killed the entire plan.

    In this schematic this is what I see left to right. It forces max protect.
    DL Wake, Suh, Phillips, Branch
    LB Misi, Timmons, Alonso
    S 27 is Allen and 42 is Jones

    • Tim Knight says:

      Forgot this.

      My guess is the CB on Jones’ side will play off man and the CB on Allen’s side plays press because he has some deep coverage over the top. So in this scheme you have 8 in the box but really have 9 guys close to the LOS. The DL and maybe a blitzing LB better get there. But that’s the idea.

  59. steveccnv says:

    Unless Alonso plays a little different on the outside, we really need an LB that can make plays in the backfield, so I can see the Reddick pick.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yep, Reddick is an explosive player with experience attacking the backfield. It’s really hard to block 5 talented players attacking the backfield. Look at it like a 5-6 defense – 5 attack and 6 clean up and cover. The key is the 5 have to disrupt the backfield. If that doesn’t happen you get shredded.

      We should have more talent and be better prepared to play that way in 2017. I hope. 🙂

  60. son of a son of a shula says:

    A couple of hours ago the little kid from next door rings our doorbell she wants to know if we can play the uno game.
    I said to her, ” do me a favor and go ask your Dad if you should be ringing Mr Johns doorbell on Masters Sunday”.
    She said ok.

    Haven’t seen her since.

  61. son of a son of a shula says:

    I fully expected Sergio to shoot 75 yesterday but the one time I call him out he shoves it in my face.

    He still has to play the back nine…

  62. son of a son of a shula says:

    Sunday meat and potatoes with Tim and Steve

    Good stuff guys

  63. D says:

    Misi to me should not be in any plans that don’t include him as a rotational​ player, and probably more specifically a role rotational player. Bringing him up on the line as a pass or rush based blitzing OLB would be ok, but imo he is here to mentor and assist in a transition. If he starts I think it will be just long enough for the draft pick to settle in. If we have to rely on him heavily for the entire season we didn’t get something right in this draft.

  64. D says:

    There are a bunch of guys this year that could be capable of starting by middle of the year, but I think we are more likely to draft someone capable of being in there in first couple of weeks.

  65. son of a son of a shula says:

    Kuchar just aced 16 and like Cam gave the ball to a kid

  66. son of a son of a shula says:

    Sergio is to golf as Mike “the human rain delay”Hargrove is to baseball

  67. Mike E. says:

    I’m rooting for Sergio Valenti. He made a real nice shot to make par. Only reason I’m watching golf is because it’s absolutely stunning in 4K. Why the hell isn’t the NFL in 4k? C’mon!

  68. Mike E. says:

    Not Optometrist, Optician. Know your “O”s. lol

  69. Mike E. says:

    You should treat Misi like a tire with a nail stuck in it. It can work for a while, but one bad bump, and that tire is toast

    • steveccnv says:

      Well, that’s what his contract says he is. He can provide some value, if brought in to play sub packages at about 20-30 plays a game, which is about all a third LB plays (40% of 60-70 plays).

  70. Randy says:

    I also wondered what sub packages they had for Misi other than just using him as an extra rusher. I mean…what has he ever done that well that you would wanna make it a focus of your defense? Bring him off the edge or in the 3 hole to draw blockers from Suh and Wake but otherwise….what?
    ****
    I don’t see any way we don’t still draft a couple DE/LBers in this draft. Timmons is an older guy. He’s not the future. Kiko is still a player who’s had injury issues. Hopefully it’s behind him, but you never know. Misi is an ok pro who can do a little of everything ok. Hewitt? He is what he is at this point…a backup/ST player. We need edge players too. Wake is aging. After him, is there really anybody that isn’t replaceable? Ok players but nothing special. There are a handful of edge guys in this draft who could be pretty good.

  71. Tim Knight says:

    Hewitt just turned 24 years old a few days ago. Yes he is what he is, he could never get better. He only won a job as a rookie UDFA and has continued to develop over the last two years. Wow, we don’t appreciate anything anymore.

    I’m changing my stance, Hewitt will be one of our 5 game day LBs.

  72. steveccnv says:

    Already better than last year, not that that’s saying much though, but we have a chance to have a good LB corps.

  73. wyoming85 says:

    I like it!

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