The past few weeks, we’ve looked at the O-line and DE’s, 2 definite areas of need. This week, it’s time to focus on the front 7 playmakers, the LB’s. We’ve had some good ones in the past, but it feels like it’s been a while since we had either a dominant MLB knocking the snot out of everyone, or a guy who just seems to be everywhere making big plays, INT’s sacks, tackles for loss etc. It’s high time to find one, so let’s look at those linebackers!
Reuben Foster LB 6’0” 229 Alabama
While it would be ideal for Foster to slide all the way to the #22 pick, it’s just not very likely. Foster could well be a top 10 pick, except for one mistake when he blew up at the medical exams at the Hospital during the NFL combine, which is most likely not going to impact his status that much. Who knows, maybe like Wyo says, we want the guy, we go ahead and get the guy and trade up to do so.
Foster is a star in the making, and the last 2 years at Alabama, he showed us what he can do. His Senior year was his best, 115 tackles, (60 solo), 13 TFL’s, 5 sacks, and 2 passes defensed. On a talented defense, Foster still stood out. He can play any of the three 4-3 LB spots, and he would be an instant upgrade wherever he plays. Although Foster didn’t participate at the combine or his pro day, his speed and athleticism are well known. When he lost 20 lbs in his Senior year, it was like he took the piano off his back. True leader who loves to lay the lumber. NFL.com has Foster as the top rated LB at 6.4
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Haason Reddick LB 6’1” 237 Temple
Reddick is a little bit more complicated. He was mostly used a DE at Temple, and he truly excelled at rushing the passer. In the NFL though, he will either project as a 4-3 OLB, or 3-4 OLB, and possibly even an inside LB in a 3-4. Reddick has the athleticism to play any of those spots, a very explosive athlete with 4.52 speed, a 36.5” vertical, and the power too with 24 reps. Always tough to project how successful he will be changing positions, I’m not worried in the least. I’d take this “Temple Tough” athlete at #22 in a heartbeat! Reddick was a very disruptive DE, in his Senior year, Reddick totaled 65 tackles (43 solo), 22.5 TFL’s (Not a misprint), 9.5 sacks, 1 INT, 1 FR, and 3 FF’s. Playmaker!!! Just a note, When I listen to this kid talk, I hear an intelligent kid who is very grounded. When I hear the experts talk about him, they think he’s going to be a very good NFL LB, no matter where he plays.
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Zach Cunningham LB 6’3” 234 Vanderbilt
Cunningham is a tall lean athlete coming out after his Junior year. Cunningham started both his Sophomore and Junior years, and finished his Senior year with a bang. Zach totaled 125 tackles (71 solo), 16.5 TFL’s, 3 passes defensed, 4 FR’s and 2 FF’s. That’s some serious production. Somewhat hard to judge, because he was everywhere making plays, or trying to on an underwhelming defense where he was the best. Still young, but 15 reps is not good enough, he needs some serious weight training, although he does have long arms (34 3’8”) What you’re getting is a young player that needs to be molded and strengthened, and could become a great NFL LB. Another intriguing possibility for the Dolphins at #22. NFL.com has Cunningham rated at 5.94
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Jarrad Davis LB 6’1” 238 Florida
Davis did not perform at the NFL combine due to injury, but was able to do drills at the Florida Pro Day, and boy did he show up healthy! Davis ran a 4.56 40, 129” broad jump, and a really impressive 38.5” vertical, also putting up 23 reps in the BP. Davis was a 4 YR player starting both his Junior and Senior years, but his Senior season was cut short due to ankle injuries. Davis in his last full season (Junior) finished with 94 tackles (50 solo), 11 TFL’s, 3.5 sacks, 1 INT, 4 passes defensed, and 1 FF. Davis is known a solid, wrap up tackler. Can probably play any of the 4-3 LB spots, but I can see him in the middle. I dig this quote -“He’s good. I don’t care about some of those holes you are talking about. Kill him so maybe somebody will listen to you and he can fall to us. We’ll take him.” — AFC executive. (Chris Grier?) NFL.com has Davis rated at 5.98
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Tyus Bowser LB 6’3” 247 Houston
Big, explosive LB. 4 year starter at Houston at both DE and LB. He missed 6 games due to fight with his teammate, had his orbital bone (eye socket) broken. Bowser finished his Senior year with 47 tackles (27 solo), 12 TFL’s, 8.5 sacks, 4 passes defensed and 1 FF. Another DE/LB tweener, may see his best upside as a LB, and that could be in a 3-4, or 4-3. The Dolphins have met with Bowser, so you can’t rule him out. Bowser ran a 4.65 40, 37.5” vertical, 127 “ broad jump and 6.75 cone. Big guy can move, and as a pass rusher, has an impressive Cam Wake like dip around the edge. Could be a dual threat player, a LB who can also move to DE to rush the passer. NFL.com has Bowser rated at 5.86
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T.J. Watt LB 6’4” 252 Wisconsin
What’s in a name? Well, Watt is third Watt brother to enter into the NFL, following brothers J.J. (DE Texans) and Derek (FB Chargers). Is T.J. Watt that good, or is it the bloodlines that elevate Watt? You decide.
Watt is coming out as a Junior, and started all 14 games for Wisconsin. He finished his Junior year with 63 tackles (38 solo), 15.5 TFL’s, 11.5 sacks, 1 INT (for a TD), 4 passes defensed, 2FF’s and 1 FR. The guy certainly was productive, but again, where does he fit? Watt ran 4.69 40, 21 reps, 37” vertical, 128” broad jump, and a nice 6.79 cone. No question, he’s athletic and can move. My guess is he’s best off as a 3-4 OLB, or a 4-3 DE, but we’ll see. NFL.com has Watt rated at 5.88
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Alex Anzalone LB 6’3” 241 Florida
Big, athletic LB, who unfortunately can’t stay on the field. No career threatening injuries, just twice an injury to his shoulder, and once a broken arm, but in 4 years, Anzalone never finished a full season. His Senior season, Anzalone played 8 games and finished with 53 tackles (22 solo) 4 TFL’s, 3 sacks, 2 passes defensed, and 1 FR. Hard to really judge production when there is so much missing. Anzalone ran a 4.63 40, a nice 6.88 cone, a 4.25 20 YD shuttle and an impressive 11.71 60 YD shuttle, which all shows he has great burst and excellent change of direction skills. Because of his injury history, Anzalone will probably be agonizing until he’s finally called, maybe as late as day 3. Definitely potential, but can he realize it? NFL.com has Anzalone rated at 5.8
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Tim Williams LB 6’3” 244 Alabama
Yep, another DE/LB tweener. Williams played all 4 years at Alabama, starting every game his Senior season. Another productive player, Williams finished with 31 tackles (22 solo), 16 TFL’s, 9 sacks, 2 passes defensed, 2 FF’s and 1 FR. Williams spends a fair amount of time in opponents backfield. Williams ran a 4.68 40, did not do the BP, and was otherwise unexceptional athletically at the combine. Another difficult projection as either a 3-4 OLB, 4-3 DE, or 4-3 SAM. My guess is his pass rushing skills will have him at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE, but we’ll have to wait and see. NFL.com has Williams rated 6.0
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Raekwon McMillan LB 6’2” 240 Ohio State
McMillan will be coming out after his Junior year at Ohio St. McMillan was a 3 year starter at O.S., and finished his Senior year with 102 tackles (49 solo), 7 TFL’s, 2 sacks, 5 passes defensed, and 2 FF’s. Durable player who plays every game. Ran a 4.61 40, put up 23 reps, but was otherwise average at the combine. Pretty good instincts and decent coverage ability, just a little less athletic than some of the other prospects. NFL.com has McMillan rated at 5.55
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Anthony Walker Jr. LB 6’1” 238 Northwestern
Walker will also be coming to the NFL after completing his Junior season. a 3 YR starter at LB, Walker finished his Junior season with 105 tackles (62 solo), 10 TFL’s, 2 sacks, 1 INT, 5 passes defensed, 2 FR’s and a whopping 4 FF’s. True MLB prospect, great teammate, and leader at Northwestern. Instinctive player who gets the job done. Walker ran a 4.65 40, put up 23 reps, and was basically average in every other drill. I really like this guy in the mid to later rounds, he’s a good football player. NFL.com has Walker rated at 5.53
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Duke Riley LB 6’0” 232 LSU
4 YR player at LSU, Riley started 12 games as a Senior and totaled 93 tackles (40 solo), 9 TFL’s, 1.5 sacks, 1 INT, and 1 FR. A little undersized, but a good athlete. Ran a 4.58 40, good 6.89 cone, and a quick 4.21 20 YD shuttle, along with 18 reps in the BP. His size will likely push him down on a lot of draft boards, but someone will be getting a good football player in the mid to later rounds. NFL.com has Riley rated at 5.5
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There are so many prospects, and so little time. I’m sure there will be a few I left out, such as Lou’s guy Ryan Anderson, and if you’re wondering, Peppers will be grouped with the safeties, which will be coming either next week, or the following week, I haven’t made up my mind on the order as of yet. I may do CB’s first.
GO DOLPHINS!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Foist!
Nice write-up MikeE! Thanks
Nice article Mike! Many interesting prospects on that list. We probably won’t end up with any of them😂
Now we’re talking Mikey! Linebackers!
OK, Who’s your favorite LB that you think we realistically have a shot at, what RD do we take him in, and do we have to trade up to do it? I eagerly await your answers.
I’d say the most likely guys on your list:
If a trade down occurs: Bowser, McMillan, or Watt late 1/early 2
2nd round w/o trade McMillan or Riley
3rd Walker or Anzalone
Later rounds Lee or Brown….Possibly Josh Carraway as a convert
F’n Patriots better keep their grimy hands off our boy!
Patriots already have a crowded RB group… But if you can add a guy and take away from a division rival it serves a greater purpose. gonna keep an eye on this story.
Yes, they know Gase really values him too.
D-Bolt
You think Riley goes 2nd RD? Wow, I was thinking more likely 4th or later, and the same for Anzalone. Not that I know, that was just my guess.
I think based on his own success this year following the same path as Jones…yes. He has nice ability. I’m not 100% positive exactly what position Miami is targeting at LB which makes it a little more difficult to pinpoint. Are they looking for a SOLB to kick to MLB in the future…is Kiko the MLB and they’re looking for an elite WOLB?
I think Miami is entering the draft Honestly not defining who is playing what LB position which will make every player a viable option for them at LB & they’ll decide positions post draft.
I agree that they will be taking the best LB, and not worrying about which of the 3 spots they best fill. As Tim has said, they’re all interchangeable anyway, and I think Kiko would be better on the outside, and Timmons is only here for this year and possibly next, so we can move guys around as the situation changes
In regards to Anzalone he’ll most likely be a comp 3 or early 4th pick in my opinion. He has the injury history, but it’s also why he’s available in those rounds. If he didn’t have the injury history you’re talking about a solid 2nd rounder.
Woohoo
Linebackers!!!
Really like this kid!
Just saw a mock on NFLDraftscout that has us taking LB Tyus Bowser at #22 and DE Jordan Willis at #54. That would really give the defense some pop.
I’d take it. SOLB who can kick down to DE in rush packages and a elite quick twitch athlete at DE.
I’d love that.
22 seems early for Bowser
But I do like Bowser
I wonder if we can have a draft like that following a trade down?
Maybe get an OG or a DB with the extra pick we acquire
Obviously if available, Foster is a no brainer. But we were a little too good last year to qualify to be in the running for him. If we were the proverbial “one player away” we might trade up… but I don’t see this FO giving up the picks it would take to get him.
Nice job mike. I think cunningham or davis could fall to us. I would be fine with either pick
Just looking at the pics, Cunningham’s arms don’t look like the other LBers in this group. Even looking at other pics… then I had an eerie thought: wasn’t Dion Jordan kind of like this before the roids and muscle gain after being drafted?
Not the same type, I think Cunningham has his head on straight. He does, however, need to get stronger.
He has the same physique as Jordan
Lanky
But if you draft Cunnigham he is a LB through and through
As opposed to Jordan who is DE
Cunningham is very good in coverage
And has great instincts
If we drafted him he would probably start at OLB out of the gate
More importantly – Jordans problems were not his physique
Jordan was a classic fuck up
If we started Jordan at DE for 5 years I don’t think we would view him so negatively
But Jordan and as suspended for a good portion of his career with us
Rhino
I hope you change back to a Dolphins avi by draft time. This is unacceptable! lol
This line made me chuckle . . .
Tannenbaum loves to trade. He loves it!
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article144360884.html
Reminds me of a certain video I once put up here. 🙂
That’s a good list of LBs Mike
My only addition would be Elijah Lee
Who might be a day 3 target for us
Yeah, and Lou’s Ryan Anderson, and Blair Brown too. Gotta stop somewhere though.
Never stop!
Just keep adding LBs and Lbs and LBs
lol
Quitter mentality….like when someone says “Do you think you’ve had enough to drink?” I simply crack open another 🍻 Chug it and pronounce “I’m no quitter!” Then I grab another beer to further prove it!
then swim in a beer pool
dbolt48 says:
April 13, 2017 at 10:24 am
Really like this kid!
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Ah, I see you’ve found my latest “man crush” in Blair Brown, Dbolt! I’m taking him in the 3rd Round… he’s a VERY hot commodity right now with his arrow shooting sky high. Timmons is a mere stop-gap for a player like Blair.
Blair Brown seems to have much in common with a certain #54 who used to play for us… SEEK AND DESTROY.
I couldn’t find any good tape on Blair Brown. Do you have a link?
You can always pull up Basham’s games and try to focus on Brown. Not a ton of pure game film on him. The video I posted above gives you an idea of how he plays.
I don’t, Steve. If I find any good tape on him, I’ll link it to ya here. I’ve already requested his tape… we’ll see if I’m provided as much.
The thing I like about Brown is his nasty temperament to layout pulling OL. Very good closing speed & recognition while being a damn good tackler.
Rigel Spikes @MF13SS · 1h1 hour ago
My ’17 #Dolphins Draft
22 .@Takk
54 .@DDawkins66
97 Blair Brown
166 E Vanderdoes
178 Hunter Dimick
184 .@ShaquillG
223 Fish Smithson
Vanderdoesn’t last to the 5th round though….
See what I did there….
After reading Mondos article about trader Tannebaum, the only thing certain about this draft is we’ll make more than one trade.
Marinofan13 says:
April 12, 2017 at 12:54 pm
Blair Brown’s body and metrics compare very favorably to… Mychal Kendricks (imagine that, Prof Lou?!!). Both are 5’11”, 239, and have incredible VJs (38″ for Blair, 39 1/2″ for Mychal).
Mychal is faster on the track (4.44 vs Blair’s 4.65), but Blair seems to have better processing/recognition speed.
Check this out… Blair (again, 5’11”, 239) has a 38″ VJ (<– Pro Day) and 10'3" BJ. That's EXACTLY the same VJ and BJ numbers as one Luke Kuechly (but 6'3", 242).
I'm NOT saying that Blair Brown is the next Kuechly, but there's a WHOLE LOT to like about Blair. I'm still trying to get ahold of his TAPE (not just highlights)… but based on his highlights alone — coupled with his metrics — this kid is VERY GOOD.
Blair Brown is on the cusp of reaching "man crush" status for me… if only I can find his tape (NOT highlights).
Dbolt when some one says “Do you think you had too much to drink?”
Landfill!!!!
Das BOOOOOOTTT!
The Flying Pig says:
April 13, 2017 at 2:14 pm
Vanderdoesn’t last to the 5th round though….
See what I did there….
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LOL
Agreed. I’d try to trade up to the 4th Round what with our three 5th Round picks to land Vanderdoes. That DOES make sense to DO. 🙂
yeah – it makes sense to try to get into the 4th or move up in the 3rd IMO
I kind of expect it to happen to be honest
3 5th rounders and a very late 3rd and no 4th doesn’t make too much sense
Totally agreed, Jordi!
Actually think we could see them move down in round one and use the acquired picks to move up in round 2 or 3.
You don’t trade up to get a higher round pick, you trade up to get a targeted player. 2 oinks down, no soup for you.
For y’all who want to know the Draft order up to the minute…
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/order
Maybe we can trade Carroo for a 3rd and a 4th in this draft. Wait . . .
Lol
He loves it!
😛
If the cheats want to sign Damien, go ahead, we can take the pick, then sign Blount
No pick – Damien was undrafted
Because of that original-round tender, the Dolphins — who have nearly $21 million in cap space heading into the draft later this month — would have five days to match any offer New England, or another team, makes to Williams. But if Miami opts to not match, the Dolphins won’t receive a draft pick as compensation, because Williams wasn’t drafted coming out of Oklahoma.
Yep – That’s what I was saying. We can match, but those Patriots can make things difficult, as they once did with Welker.
Make things difficult you say?
(Piggy begins to build a Belicheat voodoo doll)
we will see who has sudden piercing pains in his chest won’t we….
What you said was no pick, this article suggests there may be.
Belicheat, Brady, Kraft and his dog “Cheats”
LOL!
What is up FUers? Draft is a comin
Hey Ken — take it they been working you hard. And yeah the draft is coming……all the options at #22 have my head spinning. Wouldn’t #10 be so much easier.
Been crazy busy but I like 22 better than 10
RIP Dan Rooney — now there is a guy who knew how to run a team the right way.
RIP Dan Rooney one of the class owners in the league
Quite a legacy with the Rooney family….of course a ton of money certainly helps that along. 🙂
Howdy Stanger
What up bud? Time of year when everyone talks draft prospects and I just listen and learn.
Walker will also be coming to the NFL after completing his Junior season. a 3 YR starter at LB, Walker finished his Junior season with 105 tackles (62 solo), 10 TFL’s, 2 sacks, 1 INT, 5 passes defensed, 2 FR’s and a whopping 4 FF’s. True MLB prospect, great teammate, and leader at Northwestern. Instinctive player who gets the job done. Walker ran a 4.65 40, put up 23 reps, and was basically average in every other drill. I really like this guy in the mid to later rounds, he’s a good football player. NFL.com has Walker rated at 5.53
Fuckin’ A Mike are you recruiting this guy for the mets?
LOL – I had to read what I wrote 3 times to figure it out. That’s Middle Line Backer
Sure 😛
RIP Mr. Rooney
Steve
I don’t understand, it clearly says because Williams was undrafted, Miami would not receive draft pick compensation.
Cause they signed him to an original round selected tender and he was an UDFA. They have the right to match whatever the Pats offer though.
The team that has the rights to ANY RFA has the right to match any offer, but my point was, if he leaves, even if he plays every game, we’ll get no compensatory pick for him because he was undrafted.
I think we are all agreeing without knowing it….latest being me 🙂
One thing I don’t if is if an RFA that goes to another team counts in the secret comp math equation come the next draft, but then don’t think we will be seeing many comp picks next year cause we signed our own back and brought in some others like TImmons.
You are correct Mike, no compensation.
I believe, if he was drafted he would’ve signed a 4 year contract and been an UFA after his contract expired. Since we tendered him to an original round offer, the lowest, we wouldn’t get any compensation. The welker tender was different, because we gave him a 2nd round tender, so if we didn’t match we’d get a 2nd. The cheats gave us an additional 7th, so they wouldn’t have to pay him $35M, instead they gave him $17M.
The point in signing him to an original round tender was to have the right to match and also, if no team signed him we’d then have him at a lower contract. I don’t know what happens when the player doesn’t sign the tender, as Damien hasn’t signed it.
Stanger
I’m not actually explaining it right. Never mind compensatory picks. The whole idea behind the RFA tender is the value of the tender you put on the player. They could have put a 1st RD tender on Williams if they wanted to, but his salary would have to be commensurate with that tender. They chose to do the original round tender, which in the case of an UDFA, is the lowest tender they could have given him, therefore, if NE signs him, we get no draft pick. If we put a 1st RD tender, and NE signed him, we would get their 1st RD pick. That’s the story. 🙂
I’m right with you on that….all hinges on original round being no round. Can’t blame them for not putting a first or 2nd on Williams though.
JUST TURNED ON the TV in time to see Marcel Ozuna of the Marlins hit a grand slam in the bottom of the first at Marlins Park vs. the Mets!! I’ve never done that before (Grand slammer on the first pitch after I turn on the Tube!). But this game is FAR FROM OVER, Mets fans.
LOL — and right after you saw that you knew where to find Met fans to tell.
Schedule is coming out soon…….
YES IT IS, Young Stanger. Can’t wait, although I have to work a couple of more weekends this season than last season. But, at least, we have a club headed in the right direction to root for. NOT sure if I can say the same thing about the Marlins.
I’m most interested in the Fest. Oct 1 in London, which means Oct 8 is a bye. Might not be many games to choose from this year, but maybe that will make it easier.
Ouch!
Mike….You want to bet that the Knicks are much better next year once they get rid of Nelo & Rose?
Why would I bet that? I agree 100%, although don’t count your chickens before they hatch! They STILL haven’t gotten rid of Melo yet. When I see it happen, I’ll believe it.
They’re going to wait a couple of years to get rid of him, so they can be rid of one Melo and sign another, Lamelo.
any idea where they will be picking?
Mike…..I hate Melo!
Pig, they haven’t done the lottery yet, but they’re tied for 6 worst records, so…
Piggy
Not until they do the lottery
its usually 1, 2, 3 or ______
in the Heat’s case is 1, 2 ,3 or 14 bc they are the last team in to the lottery
the chances of getting 1, 2 and 3 are .5, .6 and .7 %
so they will probably be #14
They’re picking like the Heat which equals…..who the fuck knows.
D-Bolt
I don’t hate him, I just hate that he’s on the Knicks. lol
I despise him….I hope Garnett bangs his whore wife again.
And gets a Honey Nut Cheerios sponsorship afterwards.
LOL
Before the lottery, Knicks are tied at #6
WELL I TOLD YOU SO! – – Didn’ take long for the Marlins to blow a 4-0 lead, did it?- – Well, at least Loria SAYS he wants to sell the team before the All-Star break. –Good luck with that!
Stanger – You’re going to London?
lol — great city to visit though. Spent a semester there back in college. I’ll take my football at the Rock though.
You said Fest Oct.1 in London, I thought you and UK had a fest planned 🙂
Oh, and fake UK too.
My draft to solve world hunger🤣
YOUR TEAM: MIAMI DOLPHINS
GAME OVER!
Your score is: 12619 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 1 (CLE): Desmond King, CB/FS, Iowa (B)
Round 2 Pick 20 (CLE): Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State (A)
Round 2 Pick 26 (SEA): Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston (A)
Round 2 Pick 29 (G.B.): Taylor Moton, OT/OG, Western Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 1 (CLE): Kevin King, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Anthony Walker Jr., ILB, Northwestern (A-)
Round 5 Pick 22: Jonnu Smith, TE, Florida International (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (B+)
Round 5 Pick 40 (COMP): Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga (B-)
Round 7 Pick 5: Dylan Cole, OLB, Missouri State (C+)
That would be sumpin’
If only it was that easy.
how did you end up with so many picks?
Jarrad Davis.
Anybody want to go to the draft party at the stadium? I can’t go, but I have the invite.
That’s a really nice offer, wish I could go
I’m going to the draft party at slatterys (probably)
That would be cool. I’m in Key West next week, but have to be back in Virginia the week of the draft. I’ll be watching the draft from home.
Revisionist history gonna revise
Come on man
In the 16th minute Timmons gives a speech in Miami.
Blair Brown’s highlights look really good, even though the competition is awful. They can’t seem to block him, it’s like when you try to put 2 magnets together and they won’t stick. Would be nice to see game tape, but I’d take him with a late round pick, some say he’s a 7th rounder, that won’t happen, but I’d take him in the 5th.
April 13, 2017 at 9:43 pm
Okay, you want me to talk draft. Here it is:
Rd 1 David Njoku
Rd 2 Ryan Anderson
Rd 3 Carroll Phillips
Move up to Rd 4: Dawuane Smoot
Rd 5: Adam Pankey
Rd 7: Dare Ogunbowale
there it is
Colts signed Hankins to 3 yr/$30M contract.
Lou,
It was first pick so I took as many 1st round trades as I could😂 We know nothing like this would ever happen, but I’d be in favor of moving down to try to get an extra 2 or 3
well, yeah, that’s definitely not going to happen. that’s why I don’t like draft simulators. they’re way too unrealistic in terms of what you get for making a trade. way too many picks there.
We’d need to trade down to #29 with GB in order to just get a 3rd.
I went to sleep loooong before the Mets finally won last night in 16 innings. Crazy game. Should be a good series as I said, 2 good teams.
Naples – Me too. That could really make our defense exciting, now and in the future.
honoring :Lou’s request for a Big Board 2nd rnd.
Leftovers from the first not included here.
no trade downs cuz tannenbaum will stand pat (LOL)
This is the order I’d value them and take them next man up.
Round 2 – 54
Jordan Willis DE Kansas State 6-4 255
Tyus Bowser OLB Houston 6-3 247
Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama 6-3 310
Dan Feeney OG Indiana 6-4 305
DT Chris Wormley 6’5 298 Michigan
Carl Lawson DE Auburn 6-2 261
Charles Harris DE Missouri 6-3 253
Dorian Johnson OG Pittsburgh 6-5 300
Jarrad Davis ILB Florida 6-1 238
Caleb Brantley DT Florida 6-3 307
Dion Dawkins OG Temple 6-4 314
Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State 6-2 240
Larry Ogunjobi DT Charlotte 6-3 305
DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic, 6-4, 266, 4.65
T.J. Watt OLB Wisconsin 6-4 252
OG-C Corey Levin, Chattanooga, 6-4, 307, 5.16
Taylor Moton OT Western Michigan 6-5 319
Josh Jones SS NC State 6-1 220
Tarell Basham DE Ohio 6-4 269
Duke Riley OLB LSU 6-0 232
Gerald Everett TE South Alabama 6-3 239
most teams only have, tops, 100 players on their board. that’s 21 just in the 2nd rd. lol
LOL
I want all 21 too.
Plus Lou we do not have any 4th or 6th rounders at all.
Plus when you draft late in a round, you need to have a bigger board since many of your graded players for that round will get taken before it gets to you.
not 21 players big
https://miamiherald.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article144385454.html
wow
I don’t know why Beasley’s got his nose stuck so far up Fahey’s ass. Fahey is the #1 self-proclaimed football expert on Twitter. He wouldn’t know a pre-snap read from a Dunkin Donut but he’s written an e-book about it.
I love this article and Fahey’s excellent analysis because they verify what i see and what Gase sees which is that Tannehill is one of the best QBs in football but he has been stuck in a terribly coached team with serious OL issues and WRs with iffy hands.
Tannehill rocks.
Well, of course anyone who likes Tannehill is going to agree with what Fahey says but Fahey’s nothing more than a Twitter GM wannabe.
Fahey was one of the guys who gave Tannehill credit for making the td throw to Williams in the San Diego game, saying he recognized the coverage and that’s why he went to him when Gase said in his presser following the game they were looking for the opportunity to use Williams that way in a game and the opportunity finally presented itself and that’s why they called the play at that point in the game.
I know. Wasn’t that an awesome play by Tannehill? I loved that one and the game winner to Parker slicing out of the side of the end zone was beautiful also.
Which came after TWO long drives Tannehill engineered to come from behind late.
Tannehill had nothing to do with calling the play or recognizing the play to Williams. It was Gase who saw the opportunity.
Fahey is Twitter’s #1 douchebag “expert”.
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If wining every game wasn’t the only thought in your mind no matter the opponent then why even play the game.
Love Landry.
This was not an idle boast but a genuine self-motivation for him and his team.
There’s lots of little things Landry does that I hate, this is one of them. You gain nothing by saying this, but it may cost you later, so why run your mouth?
If so, he should’ve kept it in the locker room.
Big difference between having that thought, and actually saying it. Be humble and not an asshole.
I am done with humble. Let’s kick some ass.
(Landry is whatever the opposite of an asshole is.)
Landry is a hero.
Act like a professional and a champion, not like a millennial. Humble to the world a dog in the locker room. Have you seen the YouTube videos of guys that taunt their opponents, then get their ass kicked? Something about running your mouth that Brings out the dog in your opponent.
That’s why I keep tellin’ y’all don’t be surprised if we DON’T extend Landry.
I think you heard me same the same Lou. Landry isnt all that, and if we select a WR IN the first 3 rounds…
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SN sources: Joe Vitt lands job with Dolphins under son-in-law Adam Gase
Who is he?
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/852554978824781824
I wouldn’t be to pissed off!
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Youngstown State ki corner David Rivers III had good workout for Dolphins has drawn praise for positional drills for teams since Pro Day
ki corner. is that a new position?
I’m with Lou, Fahey is a fraud. Fahey attempts to flatten quarterback statistics and rankings, controlling for opponents, scheme, surrounding talent, randomness and luck. Then he goes on to state stat after stat to back uo his opinion. WTF does he know?
He’s no different than anyone on here. Love him or hate him it’s an opinion & his stats…that’s it.
Big difference, we don’t have an e-book. It’s fine to state your opinion, but don’t sell it as fact, especially from afar.
It’s a consumers choice to buy it….No different than someone buying the SS to read Omar’s nonsense.
I’ve gone down that road with him plenty until one day he finally blocked me just because he couldn’t take the criticism. I wasn’t being an ass to him, just pointing out the flaws in what he was posting on Twitter but he didn’t like being called out so I got blocked.
He was the one who said that Tannehill was only responsible for 4 of his 12 int’s in ’15 because the other 8 were on the wr’s, te’s and rb’s. I’m not saying this to bash Tannehill but it’s also like saying Tannehill isn’t responsible for all his td’s because the wr’s, te’s and rb’s caught them and scored the td’s.
Anyway, he’s been coming off with some pretty far-fetched stuff for awhile. Like I said above, Gase said in his presser after the San Diego game they were wanting to use Williams split out on a LB if the opportunity presented itself and they finally got to use him that way vs SD and that’s why they called the play. Fahey puts the play on Twitter saying RT recognized the matchup when he saw it and that’s why he threw it to him.
Again, not bashing RT, just stating some things that Fahey has said that are off the wall.
Like I said, it’s no different than any of us. We perceive things how we want. There’s always a gray area.
For example:
You think very highly of D. Smoot as a DE prospect
I think Smoot is Jelly Belly waste of space.
Either way I know it’s a difference of opinion and I move forward because opinions are just that and are worthless to get to bent out of shape over.
There’s a difference Dbolt, but in general you’re correct. Lou does the same thing Fahey does, but comes to the opposite conclusion, and I watch draftees tape and form my opinion. What I don’t like about Fahey is he doesn’t use the human element of his eyes to come to a conclusion, like you’d expect, from what he starts with.
Steve,
Not disagreeing w/ you, but as I said it’s not worth getting flustered over.
Good write up, Mike! Gotta get us one of them there LBs.
There’s more Rivers on YSU that are draftable?
Spell checked?
Maybe…..always throws weird words in here & there to make me look like I’m drunk typing🤣
It flooded yesterday the lake is dry.
36 for the Phins in the 2017 NFL Draft (NOT ordered: no particular order)
Offense
QB: C.J. Beathard (<– assist from Prof Lou), Brad Kaaya
RB: James Conner, T.J. Logan
TE: Jake Butt , O.J. Howard, David Njoku
O-Line: Cam Robinson, Dion Dawkins , Pat Elflein, Nico Siragusa, Jordan Morgan, Jon Toth, Dan Feeney
Defense
DE: Derek Barnett, Carl Lawson (<– beware his injury history), Jordan Willis, DeMarcus Walker, Daeshon Hall, Josh Carraway
DT: Chris Wormley , Ryan Glasgow, Eddie Vanderdoes , Jeremiah Ledbetter
LB: Takkarist McKinley, Haason Reddick , Devonte Fields, Reuben Foster, Jarrad Davis, Blair Brown
DB: Desmond King , Kevin King, Fabian Moreau, Malik Hooker, Fish Smithson, Obi Melifonwu
Notes
— I do NOT advocate taking some of these players in the 1st Round (re: Howard, Njoku, Robinson, etc), but they would be winning selections
— I do NOT advocate replacing Tannehill, but the idea is to draft a QB every year until we find someone to develop into a stud who can push/backup Tanny and/or trade for a high-level Draft pick… Matt Moore is not forever
— My “man crushes” are in bold print
I would be surprised if we drafted a QB this year.
Absolutely loved Kaaya as a Freshman and thought he’d be the number 1pick after his junior year at that point….then as he went along the next 2yrs I big concern developed….kid developed a Propensity to fall apart after getting hit a few times. I was shocked to see that after how calmly he played as a freshman. Don’t know if that can be coached out of him. I like the IQ and arm talent….but question the toughness & will.
This is one of my favorite first round picks.
non-stop motor, intrinsic motivation
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/19098661/ucla-pass-rusher-takk-mckinley-remarkable-path-nfl-2017-nfl-draft
I’ve been seeing Obi Meli Fonwu in the 1st RD a lot in mocks. Not that it means anything, it’s all speculation, and for the most part, teams draft boards have been set for a while, so although players move up and down in mocks, they stay pretty steady on draft boards.
Yeah that’s just the mocksters keeping themselves relevant and not static.
Tim Knight says:
April 14, 2017 at 10:16 am
I would be surprised if we drafted a QB this year.
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Same here… it’s not likely, but ya never know.
Well we drafted Doughty last year and added Fales just recently. There is only so much time coaches can spend with developmental QBs and only so many reps they can get while trying to get ready for the season. If Doughty doesn’t show enough progress this year then next year I can see us drafting another for sure. I believe Fales is just an extra camp arm and to push Doughty.
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Connecticut safety Obi Melifonwu is visiting the Miami Dolphins today, according to a source
We must get an LB in the first 2 rounds, unless someone falls to us we can’t refuse, but in regular situations… I’d be ok with McDowell in the first, if we can get someone like Cunningham in the 2nd, but I really want Reddick now as my 1st bar none. His TFL and playmaking ability…
I’d be VERY happy with either of Takk or Reddick in the 1st.
IF we were to draft Takk, I wonder if we’d play him at DE or LB, being he can do both very well. I’d say LB, unless we double-down and draft a Blair Brown in the 3rd or 4th (<– trade up or down).
In short, if we draft 2 LBs (Takk and someone else), I could see Takk becoming a DE for us. If not, Takk is going to be a KILLER LB for us, IMO.
My biggest nightmare on Draft day would be both Takk and Reddick being off the board when we’re up… and it’s a real possibility. I really hope that’s not the case.
Don’t set yourself up for disappointment. There are a lot of prospects that will be there for us and our FO’s targets may be very different than what everyone here is talking about. Not everyone can go before #22 but every year we fans think nobody will fall to us whether it’s #12, #14 or #22 of whatever. LOL
There will be other positions that will be drafted before we pick that we’re not likely to target and we already know there are a good 10 prospects we have no shot at so before you know it there will still be plenty on the board when we’re up. 🙂
And I know it, man! I do this to myself EVERY SINGLE YEAR! LOL 🙂
But I will say, that’s why I do my annual “30/40/50 for the Phins”. Even if we don’t land Takk or Reddick, there’s a LOT of other great talent out there.
I know you do that’s why I’m trying to calm your nerves. LOL
IMO, I think it’s an absolute MUST to address LB, the D-Line, and the O-Line (in no particular order) with our first 3 selections… unless a STUD from another position falls into our laps, of course (see Laremy Tunsil last year).
What about DB’s? I think we could go for a solid nickel CB somewhere in this draft. It’s DEEP with secondary prospects.
Gase has said he wants more corners and we didn’t add any in FA so…
We could use someone to match up against the Patriots slot receivers. Buddha Baker anyone?
Tim Knight says:
April 14, 2017 at 11:48 am
I know you do that’s why I’m trying to calm your nerves. LOL
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LOL. THANK YOU!
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Mike E. says:
April 14, 2017 at 10:28 am
I’ve been seeing Obi Meli Fonwu in the 1st RD a lot in mocks. Not that it means anything, it’s all speculation, and for the most part, teams draft boards have been set for a while, so although players move up and down in mocks, they stay pretty steady on draft boards.
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His situation reminds me of Byron Jones (also from UCONN). He was considered a 2nd-3rd round prospect, partly because he wasn’t from a big football schoo, and he rocketed up the draft boards because of a strong combine.
I guess the bottom line is we aren’t going to address all of our needs on one draft. If we can hit on some of them, then maybe we can address the others next year.
I hear MATT ROTH skydived out of a bomber yesterday in Afghanistan… he leveled the ISIS playing field. MOAB: (Matt Overtly Assassinated Brutals).
Matt Roth’s legend lives on…
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Brian in NY says:
April 14, 2017 at 11:51 am
What about DB’s? I think we could go for a solid nickel CB somewhere in this draft. It’s DEEP with secondary prospects.
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Solid nickel CB/Safety? DESMOND KING!!!
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I see us adding a corner over a safety. We’re not thin at safety, but a few injuries at corner and we are thin there.
Nate Allen is a Band-Aid, and T.J. is a 1 YR deal. We don’t know if T.J. will pan out here. It’s not thick either. lol
I agree with ya on the Safety position, Mike E.
I’m talking about playing this year. Allen could be playing for a future contract and McDonald as well. We have Jones, Thomas, Aikens and Hendy as well. It just doesn’t seem to be a priority is all I’m saying. You need more corners than safeties.
KEVIN King (not my man-crush DESMOND) is the type of CB (size, length, speed) we like under Gase. He’s likely going off the boards somewhere between the 1st and 2nd Rounds.
IF we go CB in Round 1, Kevin King is very likely the guy we’d be looking at.
M – What about Chidobe? There was a lot of buzz that we love that guy
Don’t believe these rumors/buzz being it’s SMOKE SEASON. We’ll see!
Smoke season eh? 4/20 is coming up quick! lol
LOL!
Bri
I like Obi, but I think he’s gone by the end of the 2nd RD, and we have more pressing needs in RD’s 1 and 2
Tim
IMO, Aikens, Jones Hendy and whoever else are just roster fill and ST’s, no reason to include them as if they’re going to help us at S. It’s really Allen and T.J., and I’ve already made it clear how I feel about them. How many excuses will there be with T.J. that he didn’t play the first 8 and never got into the groove, etc etc. I’m not betting on anyone we currently have on the roster except Reshad Jones at safety
I’m not sure the team views it the way you are or they wouldn’t have added them. Only 4 safeties are making the team. Probably 6 CBs.
Any chance we draft S Tedric Thompson in the 5th RD, 2 years after drafting S Cedric Thompson 2 years earlier? lol
I think that if there was a way to land BOTH Takk and Reddick, I’d do it. That’s how adamant I AM about both of them. But that (for me) would require trading away a future Draft pick from the ’18 cabinet (likely a 1st)… I’m not trading away any of this year’s picks (already down a natty 3rd and 4th after last year) to move back up into the 1st Round.
HIGH risk/HIGH reward kind of move… to lose a 1st Rounder in ’18 to do this.
Internet/Twitter/blog GM’s are like dog trainers and EOD guys. The only thing two will agree on is that the third one has no fucking clue what he is talking about as soon as the third one leaves the room.
I really don’t think we have many needs. What we want to do is upgrade some areas but every team is looking to upgrade positions. I don’t see any critical voids as if we can’t line up and play.
To me more youth and depth on the DL, at LB and G are the most glaring areas we could use upgrades at. CB is always a highly valued position and adding a young buck makes sense too. But we could go play right now and still be very competitive. If Allen and McDonald don’t really pan out for the future we can always address safety next year. We’ve got Jones locked up likely for the rest of his career. You can only play so many safeties at a time.
Injuries can throw a monkey wrench into the equation at any time at any position, and that goes for every team. But you can’t build a team worrying about that. There is a numbers game and only so many can make the 53.
I don’t think we are a one year fix away on defense. I’m hoping we take BPA with an emphasis on the defensive side of the ball. That, and we maximize our draft pick value. No stupid trades giving away future assets please. No trade ups.
I think sometimes when we get into the offseason we fans are always looking for maximum talent as depth and it’s not realistic. You need good STs players and not all players are good at it. It is the 3rd phase of the game that is often ignored by fans and the media but not by teams. Only 46 dress for the game. Look at it that way and then look at the numbers game.
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dbolt48 says:
April 14, 2017 at 12:40 pm
@starwars: Star Wars: #TheLastJedi. Arriving in your galaxy December 15. https://t.co/txUht2OtO8
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WOOOOOOO!!!
THANKS FOR POSTING, SIR!!!
No problem….love that they use Luke’s dialogue for the trailer. He’s going to start the grey force users.
This Star Wars movie every year thing is awesome, but logistically a pain for me. My twin brother and I have seen EVERY Star Wars movie in the theaters, and this is with him living in California for the past 22 years! I went there last year for The Force Awakens, and He visited me this year for Rogue One.
Guess you both can fly to Michigan to watch TLJ.
M13,
Interesting thoughts on Desmond King. You know I love those Big 10 guys!
Desmond King ROCKS!!!
Rigel Spikes @MF13SS · Jan 25
#Iowa Desmond King is my fav DB in ’17 NFL Draft. Tenacious, plays bigger than he is, BALL HAWK, & run-stopper. INTELLIGENT cat as well.
Mike,
I admit I have a man-crush for Obi. No shot he’s there when we pick in the second.
Me too – Part Jedi, part safety. Great combo
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I’ve been hearing 1st round QB talk, me likes. Get those overrated guys taken before we pick.
M13, I’ve watched so.e game tape on Talk and wasn’t overly impressed, but I do remember watching him live and liking him, so I’m going to have to go back and take another look. We may be a le to get him and Reddick both, by trading back in 1st, and up in 2nd.
46 game day roster suggested breakdown:
Offense
OL 7
TE 3-4
WR 4-5
QB 2
RB 3
(depending on opponent and situation)
Defense
DL 8-9
LB 6-7
DB 8-9
(depending on opponent and situation)
ST
K 1
P 1
LS 1
Looks like Tim is ready to start the season.
LOL, I pay attention to stuff like this when looking at a roster. These were some of the breakdowns we used last year. For instance we activated all 9 of our DL a few times last year. So when thinking draft, think about a numbers game too. Not meaning BPA early on, that’s a different beast. But overall depth. You can only go to the game with so much and who is effective on STs is a big part of the 46.
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Tim is smart on these matters. Props, Brother.
It doesnt interest me, except when a guy i want to be activated isn’t. Too many variables to worry about what guys are active for any given game.
Thanks M13, Steve isn’t interested. LOL
Hernandez apparently walked for the other murders. Just saw he was found not guilty on all charges.
He gets afew more years on gun charges.
I can only shake my head.
https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/florida-400-pound-woman-survives-sexual-assault-by-herd-of-manatees/
You would think it would be an incentive to lose weight, but…i love those old ladies that you see at a hotel, that do their exercising in the pool, as if it were their regular routine at home. This MRS Puff lookin lady at work just got off the elevator, take the FN stairs there’s 2 floors. And they wonder why they
…are heavy.
You don’t draft for special teams. You have to find special teams players among those on your roster. When you’re picking guys either in the draft, after the draft as udfa’s or bringing on free agents to fill your roster you’re looking for guys who can do what you need them to do as part of the offense or defense and then you’re looking to find your special teams guys from among that group.
You may sign a guy who’s a free agent, like Paysinger, who’s been good on special teams but you’re not drafting for it.
Have you been talking to Wanny again😉 what would cause you to write this post?
Didn’t say draft for STs, but most players not starting will never be active unless they play STs. That’s just the way it is. For Instance, Drake, Williams, Grant, Gray, a couple WR, some OL, half the DL, LB and DB rotation will as well. It’s still 11 on 11 and there are multiple STs units. Somebody has to do it, Lou.
I agree. Someone has to do it. I misunderstood then. You were talking about numbers and it sounded like you were saying that when you’re drafting you have to take into account if a guy can play st’s or not.
Kenny Stills led the Phins w/9 td’s in ’16. Ajayi had 8. Do you know who was 3rd? Damien Williams with 6.
Gotta love that 17 year old kid’s eye witness report lol.
“There were so many manatees around her, I think I counted at least 10 of them. They were all fighting against each other to get on her back and hump her, it was like a big manatee gangbang.”
You guys gotta keep up with that site and read the latest breaking story.
“WOMAN ARRESTED FOR TRAINING SQUIRRELS TO ATTACK HER EX-BOYFRIEND”
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