2017 NFL Draft – Cornerbacks

Last week I brought you a bevy of Linebacker prospects the Dolphins may or may not have a shot at, and in weeks past, I gave you the O-line, and the defensive ends. This week I’m going to take a look at the Cornerbacks, another definite area of need. Coach Gase has made it clear he wants more CB’s, so let’s take a look at some prospects!

Marlon Humphrey CB 6’0” 197 Alabama

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Marlon Humphrey is coming to the NFL after only just finishing his Sophomore year, which means he has only 2 years of college experience, and that he’s very young, 20 years old. Humphrey was a starter both years however, and has played well enough to make the decision to leave for the NFL. In Humphrey’s Sophomore (last) year, he finished with 36 tackles (26 solo), 3 TFL’s, 5 passes defensed, 2 INT’s (1 for a TD), and 1 FF. In 2 seasons, Humphrey has a total of 5 INT’s. Humphrey performed pretty well at the combine, not earth shattering, running a solid 4.41 40, and a very good 6.75 cone. He has very loose hips, and excellent trait for a CB which allows him to flip and turn from his backpedal easily. As expected, after only 2 seasons, Humphrey does need some things cleaned up, and is not necessarily a finished product. NFL.com has Humphrey rated 2nd highest at 6.1
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Gareon Conley CB 6’0” 195 Ohio State

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Conley will be coming to the NFL after finishing his Junior year at Ohio St. A 2 year starter, in his Junior year, Conley finished the season with 26 tackles (21 solo), 3 TFL’s, 8 passes defensed, and 4 INT’s. Conley is an excellent cover man, allowing just a 37% completion rate. He’s a press corner, but has the instincts to play zone coverage. Conley ran a decent 4.44 and an excellent 6.68 cone. Paired with Marshon Lattimore at Ohio St., one would think he was picked on often, but Conley held up his end of the bargain. NFL.com compares Conley to Aqib Talib and is rated at 6.01
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Kevin King CB 6’3” 200 Washington

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A lot to like about this kid, and shoot, he’s 6’3”, and runs like a deer. One plus with King is he’s played outside, but has also played in the slot. Not a physical player, more of a physical presence. A 3 YR starter at Washington, King in his Senior year totaled 44 tackles (26 solo), 3.5 TFL’s, 13 passes defensed, and 2 INT’s. While he’s played inside, I just can’t see him against guys like Julian Edelman or David Amendola, but some teams now feature bigger receivers or TE’s in the slot, and that’s where King would shine. King has also played some safety, so he has experience there as well. I always liked Sean Smith when he was here, despite the fact many hated him. I felt he always did a pretty good job in coverage, and no he wasn’t the most physical player, but King isn’t either. King ran a 4.43 40, an outstanding 39.5” vertical, a rubberband like 6.56 cone, and what really impresses me, is that 600 lb/ft of torque that jets him to a 3.89 20 yard shuttle. Now that’s acceleration! NFL.com has King rated at 5.81
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Tre’Davious White CB 5’11” 192 LSU

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White was a 4YR starter at LSU. In his final year at LSU, White totaled 35 tackles (19 solo), 4 TFL’s, 14 passes defensed, 1 FR, and 2 INT’s. Like King, White has played outside, and has also played inside in the slot. Good closing ability, more quick than fast. Ran a 4.47 40, and was otherwise unexceptional. Not a physical player or willing tackler, he’s much better in coverage. NFL.com has White rated at 6.0
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Adoree’ Jackson CB 5’10” 186 USC

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Great athlete who is a two way player, played CB and WR, and is also a great returner as well. Former track star as well. Due to the fact that he didn’t only play CB, he’s still learning the CB position, but did make huge strides at CB his Junior year, which was his last year as he is entering the NFL now. Jackson finished with 55 tackles, 11 passes defensed, 1 FF, 1 FR and 5 INT’s, along with 2 TD returns, and he finished his 3 YR career with an impressive 8 TD’s on returns. The one issue with Jackson is, at least as far as the Dolphins are concerned, is that we usually look for bigger CB’s, at least 6’ tall, but Jackson can certainly handle the slot, and maybe outside as well. One major plus is Jackson has excellent ball tracking skills. Jackson is rated at 5.89 by NFL.com
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Chidobe Awuzie CB 6’0” 202 Colorado

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4 YR starter at Colorado, Awuzie’s strength is his physical play and tackling. His Junior year, Awuzie racked up 85 tackles (70 solo), and his Senior year, Awuzie totaled 65 tackles (53 solo), along with 6 TFL’s, 11 passes defensed, 4 sacks, 1 FR, 2 FF’s and 1 INT. Good blitzer with 8 sacks over his last 2 seasons. Only 3 INT’s however in his 4 years at Colorado. Has good size, but very short arms (30 5/8”). He ran a 4.43 40 with an explosive 132” broad jump. Awuzie has played both on the outside and in the slot. NFL.com has Awuzie rated at 5.82.
Supposedly, Miami has shown a fair amount of interest in Awuzie.
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Fabian Moreau CB 6’0” 206 UCLA

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A former RB who looks like a RB. Chiseled physique that looks the physical part. 5 YR’s (redshirt) at UCLA and 4 YR starter. In his Senior year, Moreau accumulated 31 tackles (24 solo), 8 passes defensed, 1 FF, and 2 INT’s. Good press corner, played mostly in a cover 3 scheme, and some man coverage. As big and strong as Moreau, he doesn’t play mean. Great athlete, and performed well at the combine running a 4.35 40, a 38” vertical, 136” broad jump and an 11.45 60 YD shuttle, all in the top performers spot. One thing of note, Moreau suffered a torn pectoral injury during the bench press at his pro day, so he may be out a portion of training camp.  Rated at 5.76 on NFL.com. Wouldn’t you like to have Moreau be a star CB for MIA so we can call his side of the field “The Island of Fabian Moreau”? Just sayin’ . . .
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Corn Elder CB 5’10” 183 Miami

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2 YR starter at the U, Elder, now a CB was originally a RB. Elder despite his size, is a very physical player, and although he doesn’t have the speed or the vertical abilities of Brent Grimes, he’s a player that plays much bigger than his size would indicate. Tenacious player who is a very solid tackler. Elder in his Senior season finished up with 76 tackles (55 solo), 3 sacks, 12 passes defensed, 1 FR, 1 FF, and 1 INT. Elder improved his 40 from 4.55 to 4.45 at his pro day in MIA. Again, not the size we look for to play on the outside, he would probably be better served in the slot. More quick than fast, I can see him matching up well with NE’s pests, Edelman and Amendola. Miami has had Elder in for visits. NFL.com has Elder rated at 5.46.
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Cordrea Tankersley CB 6’1” 199 Clemson

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3 Year starter at Clemson. Has the prototype size we’re looking for. “Tootie”, as nicknamed by his brother, has good ball skills as evidenced by his 9 INT’s in has last 2 full seasons. Cordrea finished his Senior season with 52 tackles (39 solo), 6 TFL’s, 11 passes defensed, and 4 INT’s. Tankersley ran a solid 4.4 40 at the combine. Good cover corner who competes and takes the proper tackling stance. When covering TE Bucky Hodges, he held him to 1 catch, and had 2 INT’s in that game. NFL.com has Tankersley rated at 5.76
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I’ve certainly covered a lot of ground today, and mostly because I think we very likely will be double dipping in the CB pool. Yes, we have Maxwell, Howard, Lippett and Maxwell, and yes, Lippett has definitely made strides, but Maxwell hasn’t really shown a lot yet, and Maxwell, though he did play better down the stretch, had a very poor start. Gase and Co. have made it clear they want to upgrade at CB, so I think bringing in 2 CB’s would not be surprising at all.

A few of the guys I put up are boundary CB’s, and a few others are more suited for the slot due to them being undersized for what we look for in a boundary corner. Of course, there are many other prospects out there that may be in play, but I’d have to think we grab at least one of the guys I looked at today.

In today’s NFL, you have to have good depth at CB, and I’m pretty sure after this draft, we’ll have just that. Also, don’t count out a draft day trade for an NFL vet CB, which is also a possibility.

GO DOLPHINS! ZERO IN!

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626 Responses to 2017 NFL Draft – Cornerbacks

  1. Mike E. says:

    Chad Kelly is Jim Kelly’s nephew. He’s trouble, but he may be the best QB talent wise in this draft

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yes he probably is but man he has a bad rep. If you’re that good but expected to fall that far those are major red flags.

      We have no shot at him though, the Jets will draft him at #6. He’ll be great in NY/NJ. LOL

      • Mike E. says:

        Maybe RD 6, but not even the jets would grab him before that. He’s got issues, but Polian swears by the kid

  2. 81Howie says:

    Stang Youre the MAN!
    I feel so loved 🙂

  3. son of a son of a shula says:

    Get Jamaal Adams

    I think might be the best player in the draft

    • steveccnv says:

      I wouldn’t go that far, but he can surely lay the wood, and he doesn’t play recklessly, he times the big hits, to save his body from too much wear and tear.

  4. son of a son of a shula says:

    I luv ya too Howie
    Hope you can make it this year

  5. steveccnv says:

    The reason Tunsil was considered to be one of the top picks in the 2016 draft. Tunsil vs Myles Garrett

    • Rhino says:

      am I supposed to watch 60 minutes of aTm realize they don’t have the cash to play in the SEC??

    • Tim Knight says:

      Brandon Albert said Tunsil’s ability is off the charts. He said he’s a proud man but knew what was coming. Humility and respect. Good character traits. Tunsil was possibly #1 or top 5 before the gas mask smear. We benefitted. 🙂

  6. son of a son of a shula says:

    Get Jamaal the way Ditka got Ricky

  7. son of a son of a shula says:

    Steve come to the fest man I wanna meet you

  8. son of a son of a shula says:

    Steve my aunt lives on Henderson and she has one retired LVPD and the other is still active

  9. son of a son of a shula says:

    This is Wake’s swan song pushing in all his chips. Suh has taken it upon himself to man up Phillips and we’re gonna draft a mofo for our defense and go

    • steveccnv says:

      Someone needs to kick Phillips in the ass, might as well be Suh. No cheeseburgers for you.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        If Suh did his job right expect Phillips to get suspended for severely violating someone lol

  10. mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:

    April 22, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    22: R1P22
    EDGE HAASON REDDICK
    TEMPLE
    54: R2P22
    G DION DAWKINS
    TEMPLE
    97: R3P33
    S DESMOND KING
    IOWA
    166: R5P22
    LB BLAIR BROWN
    OHIO
    178: R5P34
    TE JEREMY SPRINKLE
    ARKANSAS
    184: R5P40
    DL STEVIE TU’IKOLOVATU
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
    223: R7P5
    QB CHAD KELLY
    OLE MISS

    The Temple Tough/M13 draft
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    LUV IT!!!

    Only thing? Blair Brown isn’t lasting to the 5th Round. I think he’s going to be the biggest riser in this entire Draft class. At this point in time, I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes as high as the 2nd Round… though the 3rd Round is more realistic in my view. We’ll see!

  11. mf13ss says:

    We’re currently sitting at $18.9M in cap space, then roughly at $12.9M after we sign our Draft class. I’d love to see us sign another FA DT on the relative cheap to add to our current rotation of Suh, Phillips, and Okoye (yes, we only have THREE DTs on our entire roster).

    We’ll likely draft a DT and sign one off the streets. My leading FA candidates are Tony McDaniel and Big Paul Soliai. Also… there’s a rumor that Miami native Vince Wilfork may be reconsidering retirement. I wonder if he’d sign a hometown discount to end his career here… hmmm.

    Regardless of how we do it, we’ve got to add some bodies to our interior D-Line rotation.

    • mf13ss says:

      Oh, and I wanted to mention that after we sign a FA DT, we’ll have upwards of $10M to roll over to next season. We’re going to need that to re-sign Jarvis Landry.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I said earlier that both Big Paulie and Tony MacD would make great run-stuffing stop-gap players to give us another year so next year we can draft DT in the first or second round with out the pain of missing out on a stud LB or DE this year when that is a strength of this draft class.

        The FO might be thinking along similar lines with the OG position, since that is also not a strength of this draft. They might be hoping Bushrod and that other OG FA from Chicago will hold the line for one more year.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s not how the salary cap works, it doesn’t count $6M to sign the rookies, closer to 2M. 6M is gross cost.

  12. naplesfan2010 says:

    did you already discuss that Aaron Hernandez left a suicide note to his prison boyfriend and had a long term intimate boyfriend (different man) before that to whom he gave most of his money and it is being said that he murdered Odin cause he was going to out Hernandez?

  13. naplesfan2010 says:

    Haason Reddick has become my fave first round pick followed by Jordan Willis in the second.

  14. naplesfan2010 says:

    Responding to Prof Lou’s Big Boards, Here’s mine for the 3rd Round. (second round sliders first)
    PS: The Dolphins still have 140 players on their board according to the GM.
    PPS: I’d be ok if a couple guys from my 5th round list crept up a round, and we traded up to get one of them if we really like them such as Blair Brown or Avery Moss (who I think will have a great NFL career in spite of his red flag).

  15. naplesfan2010 says:

    Round 3 – 97

    DE Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova 6-7 289 4.83
    Marcus Williams FS Utah 6-1 202
    OLB Alex Anzalone 6-3 240 Florida
    OG Isaac Asiata 6-3 325 Utah
    Daeshon Hall DE Texas A&M 6-5 266
    Montravius Adams DT Auburn 6-4 304
    Ethan Pocic C LSU 6-6 310
    Tyler Orlosky C West Virginia 6-3 298
    Eddie Jackson SS Alabama 6-0 201
    DeMarcus Walker DE Florida State 6-4 280
    Danny Isidora OG Miami (Fla.) 6-3 306
    Kareem Hunt RB Toledo 5-10 216
    Trey Hendrickson DE Florida Atlantic 6-4 266
    Jordan Leggett TE Clemson 6-5 258
    Pat Elflein C Ohio State 6-3 303
    Carlos Watkins DT Clemson 6-3 309
    Justin Evans SS Texas A&M 6-0 199
    Kendell Beckwith ILB LSU 6-2 243
    Adam Shaheen TE Ashland 6-6 278
    Bucky Hodges TE Virginia Tech 6-6 257
    DT Jaleel Johnson Iowa 6-3 316
    Nico Siragusa OG San Diego State 6-4 319
    Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern 6-1 238

  16. Tim Knight says:

    M13, Nick Williams 6-4 309 is listed as a DT on our roster.

  17. steveccnv says:

    Asked about drafting an OG at 22 Bushrod said it’s above my pay grade. That cliche doesn’t work in the NFL. I’d bet he makes more than Grier😉

    • stangerx says:

      You can’t blame him for that. Two-step for sure, but still a smart move. Just like his response to Prof Lou on twitter. Pretty sure he is most interested in who we pick at G though.

  18. stangerx says:

    Did I get hacked or did the PBP? Just went to a dolphins news search and the most recent articles in a flurry from the PBP came up as:

    “Miami Dolphins have allowed 51 sacks this season….”
    “Miami Dolphins’ Jake Long and Brandon Marshall named to Pro Bowl”
    “Miami Dolphins place offensive tackle Jake Long on injured reserve …”
    “Miami Dolphins’ Reggie Bush (knee injury) will miss finale against …”

    All the other articles were current though…..so — hack or not — thinking the IT folks at the PBP are having a bad Sunday.

  19. Tim Knight says:

    It won’t be long before all the mystery of who we will pick in the 1st rd will be over. 🙂

    • dbolt48 says:

      Then we move on to people bitching about the pick & how they wouldn’t have drafted the player. Then we’ll hear about how much film they watch which proves their point🤣

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL

      • stangerx says:

        dbolt — sounds like you have been to this place before. And deep as the draft class is (especially on D) one of my best case scenarios is we don’t pick in the first round at all….but then say that almost every year.

      • steveccnv says:

        And people bitching about trading up. Wah that dumb fuck Tannenbaum gave up a 2022 6th rounder to get…I really live the player, but how am I going to cope with the loss of the 6th 😣

    • dbolt48 says:

      LOL Stanger, I think we have really viable options on the defense outside the first round.

      • stangerx says:

        Going off the old time value chart, but you won’t hear me biotching if we trade RD1P22 for #22 and #16 in round two.

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m not trading 22 for RD2-16, 22. What would be the point 😉

      • stangerx says:

        My point would be two legit players instead of one out of a deep draft without much separation in the mess of picks after us. And we don’t even know who will be there at the time, just saying seems a logical option.

      • stangerx says:

        And maybe I missed the winky emoticon….lol

  20. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, I figured that but it was so dry. LOL

  21. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:

    April 23, 2017 at 11:19 am

    M13, Nick Williams 6-4 309 is listed as a DT on our roster.
    ———-
    Got ya, and that makes sense. I go by ‘Ourlads’ and they have him listed as a DE (probably a typo on their part).. Regardless, 12 tackles over the last 4 seasons tells me he should be listed as cut… not as a DT or DE. We need to add quality DTs to our rotation to help Suh and Phillips.

  22. stangerx says:

    M13 — push you to make a Fest every year…..any chance in this one? You’d be amazed at the feeling….some of the nicest folks you will ever meet. And much different than on the board where we all get cranky at times.

  23. Tim Knight says:

    What’s funny about how fans value draft picks, they hate trading them but then will say something like we can’t wait that long to address this or that position because that’s not good enough talent. LOL

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s been my stance, let them do what they have to do to get the talent, if they have to trade a couple of picks, so be it, but don’t just give the picks away.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’d prefer more impact players than multiple developmental players. We have enough of those already.

  24. Brian in NY says:

    Back from vacation. Our schedule looks about as favorable as we could have hoped for. Let’s hope that we can get off to fast start for a change!

    • stangerx says:

      Where did you guys go? Will hold off on whether the two with the possible Fest dates are cool by you till after you answer….. 🙂

      • Brian in NY says:

        Cruise out of NYC to FLA and the Bahamas.

      • Brian in NY says:

        I’m assuming one is the TENN game and the other maybe the Jets?

      • Brian in NY says:

        Port Canaveral- no where near Miami!

      • stangerx says:

        Worst mistake my wife ever made was marrying me in Nassau on a Carnival cruise ship. Hope you enjoyed….nothing like a cruise where all you need to remember is your card key, room number and what time dinner is. And as you kids get older, perfect for letting them feel free and you safe.

      • stangerx says:

        And just check out the Great Pig’s poll……sooner we lock it down the better the seats will be at the same price.

  25. mf13ss says:

    We can clear $19M in 2018 by cutting two players. They are Byron Maxwell ($10M, $0 dead cap) and Mike Pouncey ($9M, $2M dead cap). IMO, this year is sink or swim for both.

    Maxwell’s contract makes it VERY easy to part ways with him after this season… perhaps that’s the reason we’re rumored to be looking at CBs early in this Draft (from Gase’s mouth). And Xavien Howard is far from a finished product who needs to show us something this year in order to be comfy into the future, with or without Maxwell.

    If Pouncey can’t stay healthy this season, I’d say he’s OUT in ’18. I’m a huge Dion Dawkins fan (can play both T and G), as well as a huge Pat Elflein fan [<– assist from OLD DOLFAN for the early heads up! (can play both G and C)]. Elflein would be an outstanding future insurance policy in the event Pouncey breaks down yet AGAIN (Koa Misi-syndrome), even though we've got Ted Larson (can play Center) in-house.

    I can almost FEEL IT that we're going to draft either Dawkins or Elflein, but I have no idea how we're going to replace a boundary CB like Maxwell without passing on an elite LB or DE prospect early on (NOT recommended!!!). Thus, I hope that Maxwell 'balls out' this season and earns his $10M payday in '18… or that he'll be restructured in the event he has a mediocre '17 with us.

    Just remember that we can clear $19M next year with relative ease if Pouncey and Maxwell lay duds this year. PREPARE for this potential future by drafting for the future. Follow the money and it's going to tell ya MUCH… and we need $$$ to re-sign Jarvis Landry next year, with or without a salary cap rollover.

    And lastly, Timmons is scheduled to make $8.2M in '18 in year 2 of a 2-year deal… that's $$$. Seems to me that it's a 'show me' deal, like so many others we've made recently… and seldom do we honor the 2nd year of a back-loaded 2-year deal. It's clear that we prefer Kiko Alonso outside, so I think we're looking HARD for a young future MIKE to replace Timmons after '17 (or even '18). That candidate I speak of is one BLAIR "SEEK and DESTROY" BROWN, who will thrive on the outside as he cuts his teeth opposite Kiko while Timmons is here as our MIKE.

    Can ya imagine having THREE, 3-down LBs in Miami this year with Kiko, Timmons, and Brown in our base 4-3 Defense?!! NOBODY will be able to run, pass over the middle, or stop our blitz packages when we pin our ears back… that's a LETHAL, LETHAL DOSE of Defense right there.

    And the exact same applies if we are to draft Haason Reddick (doubtful he falls to us) or Rueben Foster (beware the red flags) @ R1P22… but we'd better find a nice pass-rushing DE within the next 2 rounds if we go with Reddick or Foster @ R1P22, for MR. WAKE is not forever and he's the only STUD pass-rusher we've got at the DE position.

    Apologies for the long, lazy Sunday afternoon post! CAN'T WAIT for the Draft, y'all!!! BRING IT!!!

  26. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:

    April 23, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    M13 — push you to make a Fest every year…..any chance in this one? You’d be amazed at the feeling….some of the nicest folks you will ever meet. And much different than on the board where we all get cranky at times.

    Reply

    Brian in NY says:

    April 23, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    I second all of this.
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    You two ROCK!!! THANK YOU!!!

    Unfortunately for me, my vacation time has already been planned for the rest of 2017. Unless something drastically changes, I’m locked into as much.

    I DO promise… I’ll make it down for a Fest in the near future. I owe it to the friendships we’ve all forged for nearly a decade now. And in all honesty, I can’t wait to meet so many GRAND people.

    But at least until 2018’s Fest, I shall remain as Mike E once fondly referred to me: Charlie Townsend from “Charlie’s Angels”, as voiced by MR. John Forsythe (RIP). Jaclyn Smith was always my favorite Angel, by the way.

    Props, Stanger and Brian!

    • Brian in NY says:

      Lol! You need to come down with the flu or food poisoning or something the weekend of the fest!

    • stangerx says:

      M13 — first time I stepped on the SS board only two people even paid attention to me not matter how smart thought my comments were. One was Mike E and the other was you. Guess price of being a rookie…..but told me about two good hearts right there. Hope you do make it. You have a family waiting for you.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    M13, like Gase has said our LBs play multiple positions based on different personnel packages and matchups. So nobody is locked into playing one spot at LB. We just need to keep upgrading the position over the next two years.

    • mf13ss says:

      Agreed. Remember my mantra this year? POSITIONAL FLEXIBILITY. Gase is RIGHT!

      • mf13ss says:

        There’s a troll on Twitter (no name needs to be mentioned) who absolutely LOVES to shoot down independent thought… that we’re strictly sticking to “prototypes”. Thought it was funny when a few days ago our FO said otherwise.

        TAKK is on our radar, and that’s something/someone the troll tried to shoot me down about.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Grier said good football players come in all shapes and sizes.

      • mf13ss says:

        *POSITIONAL VERSATILITY

        Same thing as flexibility, but too many have used the word flexibility in misquoting my original thought (I just did it MYSELF!)! SMH @ myself!!!

    • steveccnv says:

      I think LB flexibility may be overrated a bit. While watching tape on college LBs, these guys line up all over the place, no reason they can’t do the same in the NFL. If you can play the pass, it doesn’t matter where you’re lined up the skill set is the same, the run is a little different, but that’s more of the base formation, what Gase is talking about is the sub packages. Sure there’s some run sub packages, but when it’s a run heavy D formation it really doesn’t matter where you’re lined up either.

  28. The Flying Pig says:

    Brian

    Make sure you vote in the poll for the feat date

    I expect you are going this year …actually I would be surprised if you went to the couple games befor the fest too…lol

  29. The Flying Pig says:

    Really tight race
    6 votes TN
    5 votes jests

  30. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:

    April 23, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    M13 — first time I stepped on the SS board only two people even paid attention to me not matter how smart thought my comments were. One was Mike E and the other was you. Guess price of being a rookie…..but told me about two good hearts right there. Hope you do make it. You have a family waiting for you.
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    Stanger,

    I sensed your HEART the VERY day you walked onto the SS board, you and Mike E both. And THAT is exactly why we are talking to this very day, sir. TRUE leaders lead by example and extend to others, my friend. It takes heart to find heart… and too many in today’s world LACK heart.

    HEART overcomes political and religious indifference… and THAT is what FAMILY is all about. Your very kind words truly resonate with me, MR. Stanger. THANK YOU!

  31. The Flying Pig says:

    And an oink here and an oink there

    Oink everywhere

  32. manitobafinfan says:

    Fest Attendance for 2 verified … Vote cast, either date also works for us.

  33. manitobafinfan says:

    I was not a poster on Sentinal, but was a reader… One day I noticed the Exodus of many names had happened, so I posted a Where’d everyone go post and David was kind enough to point me in the right direction.. M13, David and Tim were my welcoming committee and original Chat Mates. Since then it’s been a blast following,conversing and meeting a lot of you… I tend to sit out and READ only during predraft as I have nothing of substance to contribute … I do thank ALL who Live and Die for this time of year and their Analysis of players you put so much time and thought intro …

  34. manitobafinfan says:

    Good times you around MF. 😀

  35. naplesfan2010 says:

    1. BROWNS–MYLES GARRETT
    2. 49ERS–SOLOMON THOMAS
    3. BEARS–JONATHAN ALLEN
    4. JAGS–LEONARD FOURNETTE
    5. TITANS–MALIK HOOKER
    6. JETS–MARSHON LATTIMORE
    7. CHARGERS–JAMAL ADAMS
    8. PANTHERS–TACO CHARLTON
    9. BENGALS–RYAN RAMCZYK
    10. BILLS–MIKE WILLIAMS
    11. SAINTS–MARLON HUMPHREY
    12. BROWNS–O.J. HOWARD
    13. CARDS –SIDNEY JONES
    14. EAGLES –DEREK BARNETT
    15. COLTS–DAVID NJOKU
    16. RAVENS–REUBEN FOSTER
    17. REDSKINS–HAASON REDDICK
    18. TITANS–COREY DAVIS
    19. BUCS–DALVIN COOK
    20. BRONCS–CALEB BRANTLEY
    21. LIONS–MALIK MCDOWELL
    22. DOLPHINS–TAKKARIST MCKINLEY
    23. GIANTS–FORREST LAMP
    24. RAIDERS–JABRILL PEPPERS
    25. TEXANS–MITCHELL TRUBISKY
    26. SEAHAWKS–CAM ROBINSON
    27. CHIEFS–DESHAUN WATSON
    28. COWBOYS–TRE’DAVIOUS WHITE
    29. PACKERS–CHARLES HARRIS
    30. STEELERS–TIM WILLIAMS
    31. FALCONS–GARETT BOLLES
    32. SAINTS–GAREON CONLEY

  36. naplesfan2010 says:

    Above is what i entered into the NFL.com pick’em game board. My picks I mean.
    This mock draft thing is TOUGH to do.

  37. naplesfan2010 says:

    Never mind it’s all ruined now that i see that Brantley hit a woman last week.

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, back in the early days of the SS it was less personal and much more of the wild west with more bloggers. Insults were more prominent and nobody really got a chance to know anyone until after awhile. The Fests changed a lot of that and the new blogs continued with it where it’s much less confrontational with the exception of a blow up here and there.

    However, Lou said on the other blog he’s done with this one because of the plagiarism accusation comments which I think was just BB/JK but I guess he didn’t think so. Hopefully he’ll reconsider. We all enjoy his passion for the Phins and the draft.

    • stangerx says:

      I caught the references to plagiarism but truthfully never cared enough to even check out what they were about. ProfLou is obviously one of the best posters there is, but up to him as to what he wants to do. My days of trying to settle “this poster said this so I am leaving the board forever” are over. We are all adults after all.

  39. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, against a run heavy D formation our LBs all play in a box inside the ends a lot of the time anyway so it’s really like 3 ILBs. I don’t worry too much about Sam, Mike and Will. That’s for the coaches.

  40. Tim Knight says:

    I’ll just say this as far as the draft goes. I hope we come away with at least 4 prospects who can help us on the DL, LB, DB and G. I expect some more production from some young players already on our roster as well. Before you know it you’re a much better team.

    • BailBondMike says:

      I think that is what most of us are looking for. We just have our different wishes on who they are.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah and I’m getting away from that game because we’re not the ones making the selections so it’s kind of pointless. It’s also easier to hone in on some positions than specific prospects. LOL

  41. Ken says:

    My trial calendar is crazy this year but the later week is better for me for the fest but I still can’t commit to going just yet

  42. BailBondMike says:

    I remember those SS days. I was still active duty Navy and went by squidmd.

    Tim, there were more insults then but that was due to the “Home” factor, wasn’t it? LOL

    • Tim Knight says:

      More than just him unless they were all him. LOL

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh by the way, he’s still active with his insults and mocking nicknames on the SS article comments section for many of us. Came across one the other day from an SS tweet can’t remember which one. His name for me is ‘Feminine Liberal Jew Tim Knight’. LMAO!!!

        He now goes by Reel Dolphin Insight. LOL

        He’s a lonely little boy playing in the sand box all by himself because he still can’t behave. He can’t still be 12 years old, he must be at least in his 20’s by now. LOL

        So let’s break this down:
        1. Feminine – I’m not a meat-head but I love the beauty of women and my wife.
        2. Liberal – not based on what liberal means in politics although I do believe in social and economic freedom.
        3. Jew – I’m not Jewish though my wife and her family are – not religious, more traditional.
        4. Yes my moniker on the blogs is Tim Knight.

        So Home, when you read this and you will because you read the blogs, you’re just not allowed to post because of your immaturity, know that I threw you a bone which you are desperately seeking from us with your comments. But it will go silent once again for long periods of time.

        People who feel the need to mock and insult others are known to be insecure individuals. It’s science! I hope you someday get better. Nighty night!

    • steveccnv says:

      There were 3 formats on the SS, the first one was free format like this one, but no reply button, the 2nd was posting under a topic someone would create, and the 3rd was the one we were all on. FinFanRob, Myth99, and Phinmanski were on all 3, starting back around ’99.

  43. BailBondMike says:

    Wish I could make the fest but work every weekend. Only off Mon – Thurs. We are interning new bondsmen but they won’t be licensed until end of November. Wife and I may be looking at the Mon night game against Pats Dec 11. Would be my first Dolphins home game (non-preseason) ever.

  44. steveccnv says:

    You gotta love the NBA rules that allows a defense to foul a crappy free throw shooter off the ball intentionally (AKA Hackashaq). Another stupid rule is continuation on a 3 pt shot. Both were on display at the end of the Rockets vs Thunder game today. It was almost unwatchable. The rockets would go under a defenders arm that was stuck out and throw the ball up. Then the Thunder tried it and got a call, but the 2nd time was a real foul on a 3 pt shooter, while he was actually shooting, but wasn’t called.

    I’ve been saying for years they shouldn’t allow that crap. They should call an offensive foul when the shooter initiates contact like that.

  45. Tim Knight says:

    If we played today.
    OL – LT Tunsil, LG Larsen, C Pouncy, RG Bushrod, RT James
    TE – Fasano (like a 6th OL)
    TE – Thomas (2nd TE and 3rd mismatch receiver)
    WR – Landry, Stills and Parker rotate with Carroo as next guy up
    QB – Tannehill, Moore
    RB – Ajayi, Drake and Williams

    DL – Wake, Suh, Phillips, Branch, Hayes etc.
    LB – Alonso, Timmons, Misi, Hewitt etc.
    DB – Maxwell, Howard, Lippett, McCain, Jones, Allen, Thomas, Aikens

    It’s not that dire, we need to stay healthy and add to it. 🙂

  46. Tim Knight says:

    I think our offense in 2017 can be what the Falcons were in 2016. Stop thinking about the worst before it happens. LOL

    Our offense could become lethal. Sure up the defense a little more in the draft and we could be a really good team. 🙂

    • Tim Knight says:

      Gase will build the offense around Ajayi as long as he can hold up. Then Landry, Stills, Parker and Thomas. The depth projections is cool with Drake, Carroo, Williams, Grant etc., but come on… this is a talented offense. Yes with RT at QB in his 6th season. 🙂

    • steveccnv says:

      To be like the Falcons O you need to have a gunslinger at QB. RT isnt that.

  47. D says:

    I dont see us like the Falcons, they are designed way more pro style and we are still more WCO, we are just a more balanced WCO, or at least were last year due to a need to rely more on the run. They use a true alpha receiver and try to set him up and if they double him they look to their other guys. Scary part for them is thy are still a solid WR 2 from having a perfect group so once they get a guy who can really draw someone off of Jones, its going to be hella hard to stop them. They also are more straight power blocking run formations, we do more zone blocking for our running game.

    Still it really doesnt matter, we are a pretty solid team talent wise, we do need to add depth so we maintain continuity when a player goes down, and Tanny can work with the offense designed as it is. I think a lot of his issues is that, unlike a Ryan, he doesnt have the confidence that he needs to let it rip. Maybe he gets it, maybe he’s too damaged from the Philbin years where his confidence obviously got shaken up some, we will see. I do think though for the offense we run, he’s capable of helping us to success same as Ryan does, even though i dont think he is as complete a QB as Ryan was, even comparing them to each other at the same stage of their careers.

  48. D says:

    Charlie at Walter football has us taking:

    Charles Harris DE/OLB Missou (he’s a lot like Reddick TBH, time with hand down and standing up, explosive player)

    Jalen Tabor CB UF (he has met with us multiple times, so i could see this as a possibility, he’s an agressive CB who is good in run support, playes press-zone, and press-man well)

    Justin Evans SS Texas A&M (again has met with us privately, fits what we want from out S,physical player who still has good ballskills, kinda a hybrid type guy akin to Jones)

    Deatrich Wise Jr DE (He’s met with us, and he fits the mold of a guy we could stand up at DE and possibly slide inside to DT when we wanted to go max rush)

    Isaac Asiata (again, theme here seems to be has met with us previously, but also he’s a pretty fleet footed, nasty demeanor OG who could come in and give us a nice developmental guy)

    Travis Rudolph (has me with us previously as well, gritty receiver, good redzone player, reminds me a lot of Landry and Caroo coming out of college)

    Jonathan Calvin DE/OLB (again, we met with him privately as well, can play both positions, most think he develops into a real strong OLB, though he played last year was at DE)

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