Do you smell that?
It wasn’t me….
It’s the draft…it’s right around the corner you know
Ah….take a big inhale in and take it in!
What will the Dolphins do?
Will they answer my squeals and draft linebacker!
Or do they stay up front but draft a pass rusher?
They might not even do that
They might draft a defensive back…
Pitt running back Chris James (3) scores a first-quarter touchdown as Iowa defensive back Maurice Fleming (28) makes the late tackle in the endzone, and Iowa defensive back Desmond King (14) leaps over them during an NCAA college football game in Pittsburgh, Saturday, Sept. 20, 2014. (AP Photo/Gene Puskar)
Or maybe even
they put building the defense on the back burner
and draft offense!
WKU Hilltoppers offensive lineman Forrest Lamp (76) during an NCAA football game between the North Texas Mean Green vs the WKU Hilltoppers, Saturday November 12, 2016 at Houchens Industries-L.T. Smith Stadium in Bowling Green Kentucky. (Photos by Steve Roberts/WKU Athletics)
We only have to wait a few more days
Can you smell it?
(Piggy farts)
Finsmob Unleashed 
Foist
Second and oink
Dolphins to take O-Line player in round 2 or 3, Piggy.
Just back from long ride home from convention in Georgia. 16-car/truck accident on I-75 north of Atlanta left 10 injured but, amazingly, NO fatalities. Took 4 hours to clear up!
Jarrard Davis. Unless Foster is there.
Miami Dolphins: Florida LB Jarrad Davis (Round 1, pick 22); Utah S Marcus Williams (Round 2, pick 54)
Analysis: You hear great things about Davis’ leadership off the field, which is important for that inside linebacker spot. … Williams is smart, tough and instinctive. He’s very competitive.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000794833/article/perfect-pairs-ideal-top-two-2017-nfl-draft-picks-for-every-team?campaign=tw-nf-sf72640808-sf72640808&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
Works for me.
I don’t love Davis at 22
Would take Cunningham or a pass rusher before him
I think he will be avalaibalenin the 2nd
I too would like to see Cunningham or Riddick @ P22
but then again we don’t know what the Fins think!
I think the pickings are rather slim on the OL Old Dolfan
But I’m sort of expecting an OL in the first 3 rounds like you said
We might go defensive heavy though
Not sure what the philosophy of this draft is
But if we went 1 – 2 – 3 defense
I think we might really be a much better defense in ’17
We will know soon
Nice job pigg
I’m having my knee scoped on Thursday so I’ll be drugged up on percocet when I watch the draft. It should be fun 🙂
FEST
Will be Titans (Sun, Oct 8) or Yets (Sun, Oct 22), both start at one. If you have not already, the poll is up.
Need to get a rough number to reserve the group ticket section, but don’t worry if you are not sure cause they let you adjust down when payment is due a like 8 weeks before the game.
ALREADY IN (for either game)
Pig
The Dog (+2)
Mike E (+1)
Son (+1…..and # will grow)
Rock
Chef Warren (+1)
Stanger (+1)
Phelonius (plus something)
Toba (+1)
POSSIBLE
Ken (Jets works better)
Herd
Howie
New adds are Toba and his better half as well as Dameon (Fake UKPhin) as my plus one.
Pig — great story in pictures. Did how big you made each one show your own preferences?
It might be Phindog (+3)
LOL @ Piggy
Steve, from the other blog article. I never thought of Matt Ryan as a gunslinger until he had so many weapons it made him look like one.
D says:
April 24, 2017 at 11:20 am
I dont see us like the Falcons, they are designed way more pro style and we are still more WCO, we are just a more balanced WCO, or at least were last year due to a need to rely more on the run. They use a true alpha receiver and try to set him up and if they double him they look to their other guys. Scary part for them is thy are still a solid WR 2 from having a perfect group so once they get a guy who can really draw someone off of Jones, its going to be hella hard to stop them. They also are more straight power blocking run formations, we do more zone blocking for our running game.
Still it really doesnt matter, we are a pretty solid team talent wise, we do need to add depth so we maintain continuity when a player goes down, and Tanny can work with the offense designed as it is. I think a lot of his issues is that, unlike a Ryan, he doesnt have the confidence that he needs to let it rip. Maybe he gets it, maybe he’s too damaged from the Philbin years where his confidence obviously got shaken up some, we will see. I do think though for the offense we run, he’s capable of helping us to success same as Ryan does, even though i dont think he is as complete a QB as Ryan was, even comparing them to each other at the same stage of their careers.
I wasn’t saying the same offense. It was more about the weapons we have could lead to us scoring a lot of points. We may also become the type of offense that controls the TOP and squeezes the life out of opponents.
I always did. You didn’t see that in the playoff game when they beat Seattle R. Wilson’s rookie season? Down a couple of points with about 27 seconds left and kicked an FG for win.
D says:
April 24, 2017 at 11:49 am
Charlie at Walter football has us taking:
Charles Harris DE/OLB Missou (he’s a lot like Reddick TBH, time with hand down and standing up, explosive player)
Jalen Tabor CB UF (he has met with us multiple times, so i could see this as a possibility, he’s an agressive CB who is good in run support, playes press-zone, and press-man well)
Justin Evans SS Texas A&M (again has met with us privately, fits what we want from out S,physical player who still has good ballskills, kinda a hybrid type guy akin to Jones)
Deatrich Wise Jr DE (He’s met with us, and he fits the mold of a guy we could stand up at DE and possibly slide inside to DT when we wanted to go max rush)
Isaac Asiata (again, theme here seems to be has met with us previously, but also he’s a pretty fleet footed, nasty demeanor OG who could come in and give us a nice developmental guy)
Travis Rudolph (has me with us previously as well, gritty receiver, good redzone player, reminds me a lot of Landry and Caroo coming out of college)
Jonathan Calvin DE/OLB (again, we met with him privately as well, can play both positions, most think he develops into a real strong OLB, though he played last year was at DE)
Smells like my own flowers!!
Derek Barnett is my fav and he piggybacking Jared Davis & Lamp to name the obvious few of many positional options defensively!!
Hope you’re all better than ever!!
GOFINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barnett is one of my favorites too
How can you not love a guy who broke Reggie whites sack record
And in only three years as the only freshman DL to ever start for the Vols & he had 10 sacks as a fresh & soph, with double digits as an o16 Jr..
Did Reggie White come out early???
Good to see you man! Go Phins!!!
You too brother KaniggIGHT,
I feel’Ya Piggy!!!
Tim, Steve is kinda right and so are you. Ryan would be given a disservice as being called a gunslinger because he makes WAY better decisions than most do, he just has confidence in all of his throws. Thier offense however does have more deep passing routes, partially because he has the weapons for it, but also because its kinda more playing to Ryan’s style and skills. Tanny’s skill set is different, we play to his skillset, its same deal but we really arent comparable to them, and Tanny isnt comparable to Ryan. We could have similar levels of success but i think it takes better next man up so we can absorb injuries better, and we also need Tanny to get his confidence, it got beat up a good bit with Philbin, and i think he is getting some of it back, but even just the short time Moore was in there, you could see the confidence level difference between those two, much less a guy like Ryan.
My comments weren’t about comparing the two QBs. See my reply to you above.
FYI
The draft start time in Thursday is 8pm
So I don’t expect us to pick until after 11
And then we’ll trade down. LOL
Lol
D, RT looked pretty confident to me last year.
He looked more confidant toward the end of the year yes, but he doesnt have the confidence of other QB’s and it shows. Dont worry im not attacking him Tim lol. No need to ruffle your mother hen feathers, im just saying he still needs repairing in that area and its 100% true. Moore, even though a good bit less skilled, threw with a lot more confidence in his throws.
Would you call that “Moore confidence”
Not ruffled at all. Just don’t see it that way. I expect our entire offense to take another step this year because we have balance that we haven’t had for years. I think the addition of Thomas is going to change the dynamic of it as well.
Update to the private visit list i posted last time. Im sure there are ones not listed, because these are ones gleaned from twitter posts about prospect visits etc, and not from a release of information from the Dolphins themselves as they try to keep it private who they invite.
Private (counts towards 30) Visits (19)
Chase Allen ILB Southern IL
Isaac Asiata OG Utah
Jonathan Calvin OLB/DE Miss State
Taco Charlton DE Michigan
Dylan Cole OLB Missouri State
Jarrad Davis ILB/OLB UF
Justin Evans S Texas A&M
Shaquil Griffin CB UCF
Josh Jones S NC State
Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
Obi Melifonwu S UConn
David Njoku TE TheU
Jonnu Smith TE FIU
Jalen Tabor CB UF
Deatrich Wise Jr. DE Arkansas
Tyus Bowser DE/OLB Houston
Reuben Foster ILB/OLB Alabama
Trey Hendrickson DE FAU
Codera Tankersly CB Clemson
Not a lot of pure 4-3 DE’s on that list
Taco, Hendrickson, and Wise Jr. I know they met with Bryan Cox Jr as well but i cant find any report of it so i didnt include him.
There don’t seem to be a lot of pure DEs in this draft. A lot of hybrid/tweener types.
Wise and Hendrickson are day 3 picks though
Just saying
After Taco, have met with any other early picks at that position
Day 2 of the draft starts at 7 BTW
Day 3 (Saturday) starts at noon
Tim
McDowell, Lawson or Barnett
Just surprised they haven’t meant one of those 3 guys
We met with McDowell with a private workout, we just didn’t bring him into the facility. Barnett might be someone they think is outside their range to get but would be a no brainer if he falls. They also might have kept his visit more private, ie requested he not post on twitter his visit with them.
Sometimes teams draft guys they never met with. I believe we did meet with McDowell. I thought I read that.
See right above you, i had him listed a couple blogs ago, workout visit means we went to him instead of bringing him to us.
Tim i think he has the offense built to be a quick scoring offense, but one that maintains TOP as their primary strategy. The WCO with Tempo is ofr playing from behind so he kinda of runs a two style system. Tanny plays best with a lead however, again this is where the confidence thing comes in. Once he learns to let it rip, i would expect to see us go tempo and get some quick scores then fall back to the balance run oriented game. We didnt have the chance to do that last year and part of it just came down to we needed to take the pressure of Tanny.
I’m looking forward to seeing it. 🙂
A lot of it came down to WRs not running the correct routes & just not having a fully healthy OL to run the tempo stuff consistently. Also think having a really young team overall slowed that down also. Like Christiansen said to the media last year about the tempo…something to the effect of “we are in year 1 of the install. It’s not like having Payton Manning in year 15 of the offense.” Something like that.
Yeah building on what they started last year with the core guys and depth knowing the offense going into year 2 should help them progress. Also the addition of Thomas already knowing the offense is a bonus.
No doubt about it Tim. Health on the OL will be paramount.
There is a trade rumor floating around that the Browns and Jets might trade, Browns potentially giving up 12 and 33 to move up to 6 with the Jets to get Trubisky.
I could see that trade. I also heard the browns are considering using their 1st pick on trubisky.
Wow, If I’m them I’m taking one of the top 3 DL at #1.
I just hope we don’t trade away picks this year to move up a few spots like we did last year to get Howard and Carroo. Howard would have been there but we traded our 4th to get him a few spots earlier. Dumb move IMO.
I still don’t think the Howard trade up was necessary but again, i don’t see everything they do, so i just assume they had their reasons. I do know however, they had a CB targeted in the first, so the Tunsil drop kinda messed with their original plan, but in a good way. Because of that, they needed to be agressive getting their fallback CB, Howard, as the drop off became big after that and not getting him meant not getting a guy who possibly could play this year. They must have felt another team was equally as pressed for getting him so they traded up to get him.
I know we tried trading up with Baltimore for Myles Jack, but Jacksonville must have offered up more, so we had already been working with Blat on a trade so even after they fell back we had a good idea that they would be in play as a trading partner. Tampa had already take a CB in the first, (likely the one we had target, but it could have also been Apple), so they were not a threat to take a CB. Giant also had just taken a CB and they had gone big in FA to get CB’s so they werent likely in play. So that left the Bills as the team i guess they were nervous about taking one in front of us, or they thought another team was pitching to move up with Baltimore for him. Thats about as close to figuring that one out as i have ever come lol, but the Caroo trade kinda threw me a bit more than Howard did anyways.
I also know that their second round target was Derrick Henry, but again, the Tunsil thing shifted that kind of stuff around, so instead of R1 CB, R2 RB as being their primary targets for those rounds, they shifted those down a round, the trade up to get Howard cost us the 4th, which probably would have kept us from having to pony up so much to move up for Caroo, so it all kinda cascades off the Tunsil selection in the first.
IMO i think this would have been our draft had Tunsil not have happened.
1) Hargreaves/Apple
2) Derrick Henry
3) Caroo or possibly Braxton Miller(without having to trade, and possibly we would have traded back)
4) Miles Killebrew
D,
You’re correct on McDowell, Miami sent the DL coach to MSU for a private workout. Private workout sounds like a reference to a hand job.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/856539335805587456
Pig,
There’s been talk that Wise can end up in the back end of RD 2.
@caplannfl: Veteran OT Jake Long has announced his retirement via Twitter.
Sad that his career went the way of Tony Boselli.
Yeah some players bodies never recover. Weird to think career wise that Duane Brown of Texans has had the best overall career.
Yeah he’s a good player.
I always liked him. Always as a person and as a player too….until whatever caught up with him. Does make you wonder what some players hide though. Lots of reasons to tell teams how this or that injury even after healed left you not the same player.
^ “NOT to tell teams”
22: R1P22 EDGE DEREK BARNETT, TENNESSEE
54: R2P22 G DAN FEENEY, INDIANA
97: R3P33 LB DUKE RILEY, LSU
166: R5P22 CB BRIAN ALLEN, UTAH
178: R5P34 S JADAR JOHNSON, CLEMSON
184: R5P40 DL RYAN GLASGOW, MICHIGAN
223: R7P5 LB BEN BOULWARE, CLEMSON
good draft if barnett is there at 22. Most mocks have him taken before that. I like feeney in the 2nd round.
Oh i also know we met with Alex Anzalone, i had a site reference this but i forgot to add him to the list. Seems like we have had a lot of the Gator defensive players in on private visits.
I see Pouncey’s still on crutches.
@RealMarlinsFan: Mike and Maurkice Pouncy at funeral for Aaron Hernandez
https://t.co/X74hG4taDO
Looks like he’s lost some muscle in his legs….maybe it should just the photo.
Least looks like chances of OTAs are close to none.
And no other NFL team in Long’s retirement announcement.
“Most of all I want to thank the Miami Dolphins. Mr. Ross, Tony Sparano, and Bill Parcells, thank you. You believed in me and gave me my first opportunity to live my dream of playing in the NFL. I will always be a proud and lifelong Miami Dolphin!”
Most the other teams just picked him up just to drop him again, he never had anything like a career for any of the other teams he played for.
He still could have said “thanks for the chance” to them but didn’t. And the statement is not a short one.
The Rams signed him to his 2nd big deal that we passed on.
Notice he left Ireland off that list.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
NFL notified teams that Michigan’s Jabril Peppers tested positive for a dilute sample at the combine, league sources tell ESPN.
I know they have their rules, and i know its got to be considered a positive, but they also could do hair sample testing to get confirmation, so i hate the whole diluted urine sample test as a conclusive, when truer, more conclusive methods are available.
Again, one of the hardest training points of their careers, a time when lots of hydration is needed, and the day before they have to be at peak performance, ie well hydrated, they test urine and expect it not to be dilute? I mean wtf, snip a little hair and be done with it.
After getting Tunsil last year……how about Foster and Peppers with our first two picks?
Yeah, id just trust my scouting. If these guys seem like they have issue, walk away, if not, draft them. Same as i was saying for Foster.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but this is an NFL funded thing, they cant afford a hair test so that they can call out the guys who are really doing stuff and not drag innocent people down. I think this shit is used for purposes of affecting the draft stock, otherwise why wouldnt they use a more accurate and conclusive way of knowing not only how long the player has been using drugs, but exactly what types were being used.
Shoulda been a ? after down.
BREAKING NEWS…DAN WILLIAMS IS AVAILABLE…!!!!!!!!
LOL, good to see you Rob.
They said Markice was the Pouncy with the canes, Not Mike.
I thought it said Mike.
I dunno, it looks like Mike to me, some are saying it was Maurkice though.
Definitely Mike.
@PhinsUpMT: It’s Mike. https://t.co/xNT52GCn7e
Belly intelestink, NFL Factories/Canes rule!!!
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19212438/which-college-football-programs-produce-best-worst-nfl-players
Damn, Vols, Gators, & Western Kentucky don’t rate, & Bama Foster/LSU Peppers had diluted combine…
A second consecutive top ten prospect falls to Miami via the bong???
GOFINS!!!
Pretty sure whoever wrote this was a fan of the U. Same time interesting to see so few Bama sightings in the article…..even if leads me to think Saban knows how to get the most out of who he has.
“No school overperforms like Miami, the starting point for Hall of Fame talents Andre Johnson, Ed Reed and Devin Hester, along with a host of Pro Bowlers.”
Some suggest that Bama guys appear better than they are because they’re all playing alongside other top notch talent and/or first rounders/high picks, but are “underachievers” @ the NFL level… But then a Bama NFL underachiever is still pretty good in most cases, just not quite what they appeared collegiatly.. Nice to Cya Stanger
I like that option on it…..takes away from the Little Satan being anything good other than running the Bear’s old place.
Mich/Peppers
Hyde has us taking Taco. One of his reason is he’s a rising star, since he only started his senior year. Wow Dave, most people consider it a negative to have only started one year.
Hyde is more a commentator at this point. He comes in with good insight overall every once in a while but not much in-depth player knowledge…..but same could rightfully be said about me as well. 🙂
Lol
Not sure why anyone is that concerned about Pouncey being on crutches. He had procedures done on his hips. It’s only April, we need him ready for TC and the season.
Here’s some info. about it.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article146439994.html
Seems we’re safe with Williams at least with the Pats for now.
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 27m27 minutes ago
Bills declined to match two-year, $6.4 million offer sheet that RB Mike Gillislee signed with Patriots, per source. Gillislee now a Pat.
I read some hack’s analysis on our RB’s a few weeks ago that said that D. Williams was basically a non factor for us, and insinuated that he basically sucked based on his YPC. The guy must have not watched a single play he made last season.
Maybe he’s blind. LOL
Tim
Really? I guess it would be worse if Pouncey was in a wheelchair, but shit, I’d rather him not be on crutches. In any case, it’s getting hard to really count on him with his hips at this point.
It’s really impossible for us to do. We need to draft a G/C early IMO.
It’s part of his rehab like someone wearing a brace because of a knee. We already knew he was hurt, he missed most of the season last year. This didn’t come out of nowhere.
Gase commented on Pouncey at the NFL meetings saying Mike doesn’t need a lot of reps in practice so missing the OTAs and minicamps doesn’t concern him, but he expects him to be ready for TC. It’s only April and he did have procedures done on his hips. The real concern is not that he’s on crutches now but if his hip issues won’t go away.
Stanger, the idea of getting Foster and Peppers is like the Jags getting Ramsey and Jack last year. With both of these guys having diluted samples who knows where they may go.
And for the record – wow what a haul that would be
Can only dream…..big Q is what they were covering up though. I’m cool with a few things, but not buying into Peppers “drank ten bottles of water the night before to hydrate” either.
Tim
I’m concerned.
Walking with a slight limp = OK
Walking with crutches = Draft a fucking center! lol
I did say this so I’m concerned with his longevity as well.
“The real concern is not that he’s on crutches now but if his hip issues won’t go away.”
High MikeE, good to see you still kicn with all o16s puking!! : ))
Guys, there is no center prospect in this draft as good as Pouncey. We also have 4 other guys on our roster who can play center so it’s not like we haven’t addressed it just in case. So drafting one early could be the definition of reaching and not really getting good value. Maybe Larsen was the the contingency plan and Steen and Urbik will compete at guard and we look to draft a guard to compete with them.
“Adam Gase explained why at the owner’s meetings several weeks ago:
“I’m not going to turn my back on who I think is the best center in football. I’ll roll the dice with him for as long as I can because that’s how good he is. That’s how much he means to our organization. We’re always going to have good contingency plans if something happens. No one is ever going to be as good as him. It’s just a fact. He’s that good.”
Gase added: “I’m going to do everything I can to make sure Mike’s out there for his – I always tell him 16-plus games. That’s the goal from here on out. That’s the only thing I’m going to talk to him about. I’m not going to talk to him about not missing games. It’s not going to come from a negative light for me. I’m going to talk about playing 16-plus games next year.”
The Dolphins planned to take it easy on Pouncey during spring workouts and practice; “you’ll see him out there in bubble wrap,” Gase said then.
Well, we don’t know that yet Tim. That’s why I put G/C- someone who can play G, but can slide to C when he inevitably gets hurt. We need insurance at the C spot.
We have 4 other guys who can do that right now. Just saying draft a center doesn’t mean they will be the answer. There are no blue chip centers in this draft. Just solid prospects in Elflein and Pocic. Do we know they will be any good?
Gase already explained how they’re going to treat this. Maybe we do draft one as well on top of that, I don’t know. We did make the playoffs with Pouncey only playing in 5 games last year.
Could need a legit starting C, RG, & RT in o18 if MP doesn’t return to form, Bushrod retires, and James doesn’t get 5th year option!!!
Histories Best Dolphin draft picks at every position..
“”””Tackle: Richmond Webb, first round, 1990, Texas A&M. No debate here. Webb had everything you wanted in an offensive tackle: good technique, good feet and durable. Webb started 167 games over 13 NFL seasons, which included seven Pro Bowls.
Guard: Keith Sims, second round, 1990, Iowa State. The Dolphins drafted Sims in the same draft as Webb. Miami built its offensive line for nearly a decade around these two picks. Sims was a three-time Pro Bowler.”””””
= Tunsil/LAMP!!! Secure the left side for a decade?? James splits, Lamp to RT??
http://www.espn.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id…
There’s a 2018 FA and draft as well. 😉
Oh Yea, almost forgot. ; )))
So wait till o18 to address what may potentially require four legit OL starters (minus Lamp)…
What if a Lamp doesn’t exist at pick 32/018?? ; ))
I like (((Barnett))) & Davis, Lamp being my third favorite is a legit consideration, esp with o18 potentialities!! Even if the button doesn’t get pushed and there is ano18 FA/Draft..
Starting OL play practically every O-snap, third LB played 25% of D plays, but I’d be stoked with J Davis or Haason DogDart
Feel like we’ll be good to go at one position or another no matter the path taken @22!!!
GOFINS!!!
I want Davis cuz Timmons contract/age expires after o18.. But then again, “”they’ll be an o18/o19 FA/Draft””..
What can I say, I like getting a fresh gallon of milk before the previous gallon gets down to one quart, hate being in dire need of things, (waiting till its too late)!!!
Tim
It’s not about whether the C we draft is as good or better than Pouncey, it’s about whether they’re better what we currently have as depth behind him. I don’t think that’s something that should just be pushed aside, because it’s pretty likely that Pouncey won’t play the whole season, or possibly any
Mike, I said I’m concerned about his longevity too. I’m just not concerned that’s he on crutches as a part of his rehab in April. Football players coming off of injuries often take precautions because it’s their profession. Again, we know he missed 11 games last year for a reason. The season doesn’t start for another 4+ months.
I get it Tim. Walking on crutches isn’t precautionary, it’s a necessity. You don’t walk on crutches if you don’t have to. Hard to imagine he’s going to be in football shape with enough strength in his legs in just a few months. Just how I feel, I could be wrong, but I think it’s something to be concerned about.
Mike, if you’re coming off of a knee or ankle or shoulder injury you might be wearing a supportive device in the offseason so not to tweak anything. If Pouncey was on crutches in late July I’d be really concerned.
Let’s say he’s off the crutches in 2-3 weeks and then starts strength conditioning in late May, there’s still plenty of time to get ready for the season. My biggest concern is that his hip issues never go away even after all of this and that might be the case. But right now it’s part of his rehab.
Draft Defense all teams are having trouble finding enough oline
Why get a decent olineman when you can get a good defensive player?
We made the playoffs with Pouncey missing 11 games, Albert 2, Tunsil 2, and Pouncey’s replacement at center Steen missing time with a high ankle sprain being replaced by Urbik heading into the playoffs. When you lose good players you can’t replace them all.
True, but look at our rushing numbers in those games. We won a lot of close games last season in spite of the fact our OL was weak in them. That likely won’t happen again.
It may Brian, if we can stop someone on D. There’s more than one way to get it done.
22: R1P22
EDGE DEREK BARNETT
TENNESSEE
54: R2P22
CB CORDREA TANKERSLEY
CLEMSON
97: R3P33
C PAT ELFLEIN
OHIO STATE
166: R5P22
LB BLAIR BROWN
OHIO
178: R5P34
S RAYSHAWN JENKINS
MIAMI (FLA.)
184: R5P40
TE ERIC SAUBERT
DRAKE
223: R7P5
EDGE EJUAN PRICE
PITTSBURGH
looks good
but I want lb EARLIER
I passed on Cunningham in the 1st and McMillen in the 2nd.
I have “”Elflein”” too, & Pocic with four other positional prospects targeted for 97..
I never said let’s not draft any OL or sign one after the draft etc. But I also think the team is higher on some of the guys we already have than the fans and media are. We’ll see.
I saw a mock from a mainstream site having us take that small slot WR from UNC. Why in the world would we do that? I want a LB or DT or DE in the first and second, a OG in the third, We need to take DE in the 5th, so we can have max options to learn behind Wake. Our other DEs are all iffy long term also.
Thursday will be such a let down if all we come away with is just a big ugly lamp
LOL
We had 3 200-yd rushing games last year with a beat-up version of the OL we will have this year.
I’d actually try to trade into the 4th. Can 2 5ths do that? I’d throw in the 7th to get a high 4th.
I’d also look at trading for a higher 3rd.
Brian,
We ranked in the top 10 in rushing yards and average while ranking 18th in attempts per game. That means, given the reps, we did pretty good. Our OL actually performed well in the running game. As I’ve said before, this team benefited by playing terrible teams, but the stats suggest we pefromed pretty good in the running game. I wish we’d scored a little bit more on the ground, but I wish we’d scored more overall.
We beat the Cards, Steelers, and Chargers.
We only lost to the SB champs, Seahags, Ravens, Bengals, and Titans.
Those are all quality teams.
I don’t see it as us only beating terrible teams. Buff was supposed to be a really good defense and the jests were a 10-win season the year before and we swept both of them.
What if we traded down a bit in the first and swapped all our 5ths and the 7th and ended up with a late first, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, and a 4th. I’d love that. I’d do that every year.
That would be fun maneuvering
I FedEx’d a mask to Jamaal Adams. I hope he knows what to do with it…
Lol
naples
We ended the season having played the easiest schedule in the league. It is what it is. We beat a lot of bad teams.
When you beat bad teams it also makes their record worse. No worst team in the NFL has ever had the easiest schedule. We’re still playing NFL teams, and to win 10 games any way you can is a good feat. When you win at the end it also makes you look worse than your record but no one said that about the Colts, when Andy Luck was playing comeback kid, just the opposite.
When we’re down or up just a couple of points I’m pretty sure you don’t care what happens as long as we win.
And we ended the season with lots of guys out, including our starting QB. How’d that turn out for Dallas in 2015?
Our picks: 1317.3 total pts. The 3 5s = 63 would get us up to #116/
1(22) 780pts trade for #31-600pts #82-180pts
2(22) 360pts trade for #63-276pts #105-84pts
3(33) 97 – 112pts
5(22) 166 – 25pts
5(35) 178 – 20.2pts
5(41) 184 – 17.8pts
7(5) 223 – 2.3pts
Question for y’all…
What do ya think the trade compensation would be if we were to move from R1P22 down to R1P26 (Seattle)? What would Seattle do to move up to R1P22?
The compensation is a 4th, but it depends on who wants the trade and how bad.
Richard Sherman works for me 😁
naplesfan2010 says:
April 24, 2017 at 6:36 pm
What if we traded down a bit in the first and swapped all our 5ths and the 7th and ended up with a late first, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, and a 4th. I’d love that. I’d do that every year.
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LOL! That’s what I had proposed the other day here in order to somehow land Takk, Dawkins, Brown, Desmond King, and Vanderdoes. In fact, that’s why I just asked the question above. Any thoughts, Naples?
I don’t see anyone at #22 that’s a must have, outside of a couple of guys falling, I’d make those trades all day everyday too. For me it would depend on who’s there, if it’s Howard or Njoku I’m not trading, or Barnett.
steveccnv says:
April 24, 2017 at 7:03 pm
Our picks: 1317.3 total pts. The 3 5s = 63 would get us up to #116/
1(22) 780pts trade for #31-600pts #82-180pts
2(22) 360pts trade for #63-276pts #105-84pts
3(33) 97 – 112pts
5(22) 166 – 25pts
5(35) 178 – 20.2pts
5(41) 184 – 17.8pts
7(5) 223 – 2.3pts
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This board became obsolete after the last CBA: rookie pay cap.
For instance, when we traded up for Dion Jordan, we RAPED the Raiders… and it was under the new CBA with the rookie pay cap. The NFL no longer follows this ‘value board’ as a result of the new CBA.
Thats what i have been preaching. These numbers are worthless, ourside of just a general marker anymore. The value is whatever you have for the pick. Its purely law of supply and demand and whatever the owner places on it as personal value. If someone feels like they got a surplus of currency, ie picks then they might be more generous with their offers and those selling might try to wring out the max they can out of someone and force them to give up more.
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I read somewhere this off season that RT said the lightbulb went on for him as to the offense in the game he got injured in. I hope this is true. …. Now draft me some Berserkers
Gase said it i think, he said something to the effect that Tanny really grew up being out of those games, turned a corner.
Fingers crossed
stangerx says:
April 24, 2017 at 5:34 pm
Can only dream…..big Q is what they were covering up though. I’m cool with a few things, but not buying into Peppers “drank ten bottles of water the night before to hydrate” either.
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Could be neither were covering up anything. If the NFL did a better job investigating, or made them piss again a little while later they could have gotten a non-dilute sample. They had re-evals and they could have tested the again then.
It could have been any number of reasons they had a dilute sample, and some are legit. They also pound down water to get their weight numbers up some for weight in and then by time they are doing their workouts they have purged it down so they look big but still perform small. They have lots of tricks like that that can cause the dilute sample. There is also the sheer magnitude of all the workouts and not being hydrated properly before the biggest event of your life might mean you perform poorly so they may have just been trying to make sure they were at their best.
Thats my biggest thing is there are legit reasons you could have a dilute sample, and instead of making these guys look guilty of something and put them in the watch program, the NFL owes them to go the extra mile before laying that label down on them. Thats a really big fucking deal to do to a player less than a week before it may or may not cost them millions.
steveccnv says:
April 24, 2017 at 7:15 pm
I don’t see anyone at #22 that’s a must have, outside of a couple of guys falling, I’d make those trades all day everyday too. For me it would depend on who’s there, if it’s Howard or Njoku I’m not trading, or Barnett.
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Seattle needs OTs in the worst way. If there’s somebody still there @ R1P22 (say a Cam Robinson), they just might move MOUNTAINS to move up to get him.
The situation would have to be just right for Seattle to move up, but I’d think we’d get no less than a 3rd Rounder as compensation. A 2nd Rounder might be a stretch, but it would all be contingent on how badly they want a guy where we select @ R1P22.
My best guess? Cam Robinson lasting to R1P22 is the KEY.
I dont see it. R1P22 doesnt have that kind of value, even trading out to the early second would likely only net us a late 3rd in compensation.
Manitoba, would you do trade back to 26, and give up our 3rd for Sherman?
That’s tough, maybe we if they could parley their 5ths or 7ths to get back into 3rd or 4th.
If i were offering Seattle for Sherman, id be pitching our 22 and Maxwell for 26 and Sherman and maybe throw in a 5th. They get a slightly cheaper CB, who is pretty solid, but also is cheap to get out of the contract, we get a great CB who is a little more expensive,and a little less flexible contract wise, so i boils down to a little bit better position in the draft and cap savings and doesn’t cost us a lot as far as picks and we should be able to eat the cost of adding Sherman.
Thats essentially the same as them getting a player like Maxwell for equivalent of 4th round selection. They get to pick up a draft pick in a spot that still has good players and they lighten their cap load and get rid of a guy who seems to be getting tired of playing for that team.
manitobafinfan says:
April 24, 2017 at 7:24 pm
Richard Sherman works for me
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GRAND to read ya, Manitoba! Thanks for the props yesterday as well!
John Schneider has said today that unless there’s a trade that will BLOW him away, Sherman is staying in Seattle.
But I suppose we’ll see! Tannenbaum isn’t afraid to make BOLD trades!
Thanks dude , was mostly being smartass about compensation to drop the four spots. I’d love Sherman, but we do need some banger LBers more than we NEED Sherman
IF… IF we were to get into a trade for Richard Sherman, I’d THINK we’d be packaging Byron Maxwell. Yeah, he used to play for Seattle, too. Not sure what Schneider thinks of Byron today after allowing him to hit FA where he landed in Philly.
No way are we paying Richard Sherman his money… AND Byron Maxwell’s bloated salary as well.
Maxwell wouldnt cost us anything. Seattle would eat the contract, but they would also unload 9.23 mil of Sherman contract so they would still come out better (like 750K better than they were with Sherman.
Wow pretty much same time as i was posting above….look up to my last reply post.
NICE, D!!! GREAT MINDS, Brother!!!
😀
At least they’d be getting someone they know.
Maxwell seemed to have a night and day season with us .. first half he seemed lost and in an huge hurry to get nowhere… Second half he seemed to Get It a lot better and was a plus on the D
Agreed on the $$ being a HUGE factor in it not happening but hey you asked what we’d want in comp for the Trade back 😎
ALL GOOD! That’s why I asked y’all! I want to know what y’all think, using the resources of ALL of us.
And I’ll be PERFECTLY honest with ya… I hadn’t even considered Richard Sherman in all of this. I just want to get an addition 2nd or 3rd Round pick, and latest we can drop in the 1st is to Seattle @ 26. After them, Takkarist McKinley is going to get drafted by any of the Cowboys, Packers, Stealers*, or Falcons (IMO).
From overthecap, Sherman would leave 4.4mil in dead money with Seattle, Maxwell would leave 0 with us. We would therefore inherit 9.23mil of Sherman’s contract, so next year Sherman would essentially only be 750k more expensive than Maxwell. Seattle would save 9.23 mil, but inherit all 8.5 of Maxwell’s contract meaning they are still ahead by 750k, they would get a move up in the first and a 5th round pick in compensation and again, Maxwell’s contract is easier to get out of if they wind up getting a replacement for him int he draft. Its not to say they dont want more but to me thats a pretty solid trade offer.
YUP YUP!!! We can make this happen!
Manitoba? I think you just gave me the PERFECT idea, Brother!!!!!!!!! I’ll be working on it…
BBL
You are welcome??!!😶
I GUESS ALL OF YOU have seen the photo of Mike Pouncey leaving Aaron Hernandez’s funeral ON CRUTCHES!!! Yes, I know, Gase says “not to worry” and everything will be OK. But if Pouncey misses significant time this year, the Dolphins’ O-Line, as presently constituted, is NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET US TO THE SUPER BOWL!! Having had hip surgery on BOTH of his hips, Pouncey is far from a lock to play 16+ games this season. Even starting 8-9 games MAY prove to be a reach, even though we all wish him the best..
GIVEN Pouncey’s current status, I now believe it is IMPERATIVE that the Dolphins address their O-Line deficiency by drafting the BPA at G or C in the upcoming draft. And the best way to do this is to make their move in round 2, where a few quality O-Line guys should still be available. Taking the BPA at G/C in Day 3 probably WON’T get the job done.
Ugh…not Sherman. Don’t think he is a Gase kind of player anyway. Too mouthy and too about himself. Not a good team first guy.
TOTALLY AGREE with you, Phelon. Pete the Cheat and his merry band of ROIDMEISTERS/Juicesuckers are an accident, er, SUSPENSION, waiting to happen. Let’s KEEP our picks and use them to further develop the team.
Pass. I honestly think that Sherman is the furthest thing from Gase’s mind.
Randy says:
April 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm
Brian,
We ranked in the top 10 in rushing yards and average while ranking 18th in attempts per game. That means, given the reps, we did pretty good. Our OL actually performed well in the running game. As I’ve said before, this team benefited by playing terrible teams, but the stats suggest we pefromed pretty good in the running game. I wish we’d scored a little bit more on the ground, but I wish we’d scored more overall.
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I understand that, but my point was that we rushed for probably 750 yards in three games alone. That leaves about 1,070 yards for the other 13 games. We need more consistency in the run game.
Fasano helps
Brian,
I agree! We need to do everything better and more consistently.
I think the bigger problem about Pouncey is not that he left Aaron Hernandez funeral on crutches. The problem is that he went to Aaron Hernandez’s funeral
Randy, we also finished the season playing with 2nd and 3rd team players throughout the team.
Had to eat supper I do agree Sherman does not seem to fit Gas … I also believe we have bigger NEEDS then getting a Sherman at the expense of losing picks. But I also like D’s idea trading Maxwell’s contract getting Sherman as well as an additional pick… Bring on Thursday !!!!!
I really don’t feel the urge to build the Super-name team by trading for Sherman
I don’t see us going after Sherman not that he is not good but that I think the price will be too steep
I still believe we need a safety more than a corner
My only fear about Sherman is that Tannenbaum likes big splashy moves
OD, if you’re still around go to the other blog and tell me if something doesn’t look right. Thanks!
TIM; How in hell did THAT happen??
Exactly! My replies are not posted either. Hacked!
FUCKING RUSSIANS!!
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/856678198452535296
It would be Wise to Sprinkle the Corn and Peppers to make them Fuller then put them on your Walker under the Lamp
Nicely done
If you do that again – I’m trading out of the first round!
Ken ,what if Sherman were brought in to play Safety ?? Be some big hitters and good hands back there .,. Just a thought …
And he already has a history and dislike with/of Brady
KEN: I TOTALLY AGREE with your comment RE: WHAT was Pouncey doing at Hernandez’ funeral?? I’ve heard of team loyalty, but that hardly excuses the Pouncey twins from going to the former Gator’s funeral. Why, hell, EVEN URBAN MEYER wouldn’t go to this funeral.
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OUT for tonight.
Last year M. Williams and J. Jones flopped, Mitchell went down most of the season, Misi went down again, Jenkins banged up all year again, Jones went down for the last 10, Isa down the stretch and had to retire in the offseason, Howard played only 9 games, Maxwell went down at the end, Cameron never panned out, the OL was a merry-go-round and RT went down at the end as well. We still finished 10-6 and made the playoffs.
Either our depth is better than we think or Gase is a genius. LOL
…Suh effect
Maybe all of the above, I didn’t even mention Alonso missing a couple of games and finishing the season with a club on his hand. LOL
Oh yeah the club lol
Forgot about that
http://www.thephinsider.com/2017/4/17/15310924/every-nfl-draft-prospect-the-miami-dolphins-met-with-this-offseason
Manitoba:
There is no way Sherman would play safety at this point of his career. Also as physical as he is he is not a safety. He could not play in the box
I spose…. Just thinking as cbs get older they sometimes move to safety.. prolly too early for him
My trotters are sweaty
I bet they smell gross
LOL
Like I’ve said before, I’ll take 3-4 impact draft picks over 2 and a handful of developmental types.
Only 53 can make the roster and 46 can suit up for game day.
Sherman is smart and likes to win, I’m pretty sure Gase would have no problem with him. Gase talks trash to his own players. Why would he not like a player who talks trash to the opponent?
Sherman is a boundary corner though, not a safety. He’s tall and stiff in open space. Down the sidelines he’s a beast.
Tim, where did I say anything about Sherman playing safety?
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/856701538064113664
LOL
mf13ss says:
April 24, 2017 at 7:17 pm
For instance, when we traded up for Dion Jordan, we RAPED the Raiders… and it was under the new CBA with the rookie pay cap. The NFL no longer follows this ‘value board’ as a result of the new CBA
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They never followed it the way you guys are talking about, it was just used as a starting point, then the team that had more urgency to trade paid more. For example when we traded for Dion Jordan the Raiders wanted to move back to get more picks, and since we were their only trade partner they took what we offered.
When team A asks team B to trade, team B uses the chart as a minimum for compensation, then they barter from there.
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I heard Gase mention that RT’s light came on, but if RT said it unprompted, then that’s huge news and a game changer. We’ve been waiting patiently for this to happen. Many people believed he was a late bloomer and it would happen eventually.
Gase challenged him to go for it if you see it. Under the previous regime we said throw it 40+ times but keep it simple, we can’t run it more than 12-15 times per game. LOL
manitobafinfan says:
April 24, 2017 at 9:20 pm
And he already has a history and dislike with/of Brady
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See, now you just made everyone on the board want to trade for him.
blah blah blah our O-line is fine, we rushed great last year blah blah blah
We rushed great year last year when our 5 best were healthy, and not so much the other games. Also factor in Ajayi made a lot of yards after contact. Imagine how much better he (And Drake) can be with 5 consistent good players on that line. If Pouncey is out for an extended period of time, and we don’t add any quality talent on the line, be prepared to bitch how our offense sucks, and Tanehill sucks, etc. etc etc.
BTW – Not saying our first pick should be O-line, but we better have a guy in mind who’s clearly better than what we have right now. I’d love Dawkins in the 2nd, I think he’s a badass.
Oooooh that smell! Can’t you smell that smell?
Peppers with diluted urine sample at combine
I never heard of diluted Peppers before
Too many seeds. That’s just wrong