The Dolphins went back to defense, after selecting 3 defensive players in a row to start the draft with Harris, McMillan and Tankersley, then going offense with OG Isaac Asiata, it was DT Davon Godchaux who was chosen by Miami at pick #178.
Godchaux was a 3 YR starter at LSU, playing in 35 games. Godchaux finished up an impressive Junior season with 62 tackles (24 solo), 8.5 TFL, 1 PD, 6.5 sacks, and 2 FR’s.
Zierlein from NFL.com projected Godchaux to go between RD 2-3, but that obviously didn’t happen. Godchuax has good explosion, but at the moment, that’s his best quality. He’s a little undersized, underpowered, and not very instinctive. He’s going to have a lot of learning to do to be anything but a guy who is part of the rotation, and he’s also going to have to be dedicated in the gym. Short arms and 18 reps for an NFL DT isn’t gonna cut it. Still, Davon has potential, so it’s on our coaches to bring that out. Godchaux did improve his bench press to 22 reps at the LSU pro day, so there’s hope.
Good news for Godchaux is right now, we don’t have that much depth behind Suh and Phillips, so his competition at the moment is Lawrence Okoye, and fellow draft mate Vincent Taylor. Okoye, BTW hasn’t played a game in the NFL, but brings some interesting measurables to the table. At the 2013 Central Florida Pro Day Okoye at 6’6″ 304 ran a 4.78 40, (10 YD split of 1.67), 36″ vertical, 10.7″ broad jump, along with putting up 30 reps on the bench press. Maybe even more impressive, a seemingly impossible 3 cone of 6.68. At 6’6″ 304 lbs? That’s insanity! Oops, this article is about Godchaux!
The Dolphins need Godchaux to grow into a good NFL player, they really can’t spend anymore $$$ on the DT position, with Suh, and Phillips eventually due for a payday or his release after 2018, depending on which way his arrow is pointing. Hopefully, Godchaux can live up to his potential, and be a contributor in our defense, and not someone to just give Suh or Phillips a breather.
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We also have journeyman Nick Williams but he’s probably a long shot. Hopefully at least one other DT really steps up as the #3. It would be great if we hit on Godchaux and Taylor.
I also won’t be surprised to see Hayes lineup at DT in some sub packages. Warmsley is another guy though he’s listed as a DE. But he might have a hard time making the team.
I noticed two of the UDFAs we signed at DE are also bigger guys at 6-6 270 – Cameron Malveaux and Arthur Miley. Not saying they’ll play DT just that we added some size at DE as well to compete along with the smaller edge guys we have.
How about those pro day numbers on Okoye? That some impressive stuff! Can he put that into use on the field is a different story, but maybe a late bloomer?
Yeah he has the physical gifts. Former British rugby player learning the game of football. He went undrafted in 2013 so his time might be running out.
Mike, good job posting about our draftees.
I watched a video of Tankersley at the podium and he said he’s worked some in the slot in OTAs and did it quite a bit in college. He’s a humble dude who’s also confident in his ability.
He might have done some slot, but looks more boundary. Would rather have Howard in there.
Slot doesn’t always have to be smaller. It seems to me that we want more range at corner than small quick guys. Howard is playing mostly boundary in OTAs and is likely going to be one of the starters. He’s also 6-1 200 just like Tankersley.
I’m just going off what people say…..so what do I know? But book on the draft evals was Tankersley is best on the outside and other folks say Howard can do slot.
Thanks as always Mike E. And great info on Godchaux. Seems a bit of a project, but what else do you expect in the 5th? Seems he might fit well as a ST/minor rotation spell/back-up. Seems like the double down at DT or the 2nd contract coming up has Phillips in shape for passing downs though…..but heck that might make the picks worth it all by themselves.
Godchaux has some of that quick off the ball ability to get into the backfield more so than anchoring. He’ll probably see most of his time in nickel and dime situations at least early on. Has to make the team first.
Vincent Taylor seems to be one of those guys who has the frame to get bigger and become a guy who can anchor and hold up in the run game.
Cool info….seems maybe we got two DTs for two different situations. These guys think ahead.
Good article Mike and timely also seeing Burk talked about him today as standing out so far.
We’ve got a good DL room for these rooks to learn from. Lots of good experienced players. You could also say we’re getting there at LB and DB. This roster now on defense looks a whole lot better than it did this time last year especially with getting guys back healthy. It’s going to be fun watching it pan out to about 25. Good blend of experience and youth competing.
I follow an LSU fan on twitter who thinks he’ll be an excellent NFL player. The guy is pretty honest about the LSU players good or bad.
Cool! It’s not like we need these guys to start. At least not at the moment. Fingers crossed ;). If we’re 2 weeks into TC and we see a lack of depth we’ll likely reach out to some DTs who at least have some experience and held their own. But this is the time to try and find some young gems.
There has also been some chirping that Burke might revitalize some speed package stuff with the addition of Hayes and Harris. Similar to what Coyle tried to do with Wake, Suh, Vernon and Jordan. Spread the OL in wide 9 with talented, mobile and quick players – Wake, Suh, Hayes and Branch/Harris.
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Good thing Godchaux was our 5th pick so it can be so “timely”. 😉
Think Okoye’s got some quads?
One of the goofy reasons he was waived by ARZ is he parked in Bruce Arian’s parking spot. LOL
LMAO!! I would like to have seen him throw Arians like a discus after he got cut. lol
Stanger, funny thing about Vincent Taylor is he had 7 sacks last year playing in a pass happy conference and didn’t grade out well as a run defender. But he didn’t get a lot of snaps doing it either. He’s considered to be too upright with a thinner lower body than preferred and being too top heavy. To me he looks like a guy who could get bigger by redefining his body in the next couple of years and be a load for OL to move. I don’t expect him to be a high sack guy in the NFL although that would be cool if he was. 🙂
He’s got aways to go but we’ll see.
Godchaux being an SEC player is someone i watched a bit. He can be really destructive, he is more effective when he is lined up in the gap asked to split the blockers. He is not going to go toe to toe with a 330lb OG who is locked in and move him. He probably will get a lot better if he really takes his strength and conditioning program seriously because he seems to lose some of his better traits as he stays out there for a while and tires and his overall strength isn’t where it needs to be. If the gets it there though he could be a real steal as a 5th round selection. I think had he not shown some of those drop offs in tape he would have been a solid 2nd rounder.
I dont know if i think he will ever be a Suh type player, but i think if Phillips doesn’t progress, he might could replace him with a year of conditioning to do it. I think he is easily better and has a higher ceiling than the rest of the guys on our DL other than Suh and Phillips, and like i said Phillips shouldn’t feel really comfortable either.
Phillips is going to make the team. Whether or not he falls to #3 is another issue. 🙂
Mike, cone drills doesn’t do anything for a DL. Id focus on his vert, broad and bench numbers. Good broad and vert numbers (which he does have) would go play into his explosiveness off the line and how much power he could generate out of his stance, combine that with solid BP numbers and you have a guy that if his technique is good he should be able to get under and OL well and stand him up, shed him, so those numbers yeah he should be dominant.
Given though that he hasn’t caught on with anyone, and he was cut early in the process, im wonder if is technique is very good after all, and the cut early in the process usually leans towards not being as coach-able as others. There has to be justification to why such a dominant athlete isn’t making more of himself. Im willing to give him the benefit of possibly just bad circumstance but i wouldn’t get overly shocked when or if he doesn’t make it
Btw those numbers are good enough to be for a LB or DE at the very least. Those are incredible numbers for a DL.
D
I get that man, unless maybe he was playing DE. I was just pointing out how athletic he is. It’s startling to me that he could do those things at that size.
I don’t pay much attention to drill numbers, but I do think the cone drill can be suggestive of a guy’s quickness and mobility. For an undersized guy like Okoye who’s probably gonna be a penetrator and not a space-eater, it can be significant. I think the fact that he hasn’t been able to stick on a roster for years is probably more significant than any drill numbers though. Doesn’t hurt to bring the kid in and kick his tires though. I would imagine they envision him as a pass rushing sub package guy, if anything.
Godchaux is an under tackle…just like Phillips. But, I think Phillips has more power and some flexibility and size to move around a little bit….although I hope he can keep his weight down and play around 310-315. I think Phillips has a much higher ceiling than Godchaux. Phillips can dominate when singled on a guard, and he’s done it to NFL guards. I never saw Godchaux do the things in college that Phillips has done in the NFL. I’d be shocked if Phillips wasn’t starting, and surprised if Godchaux pushes him for a lot of snaps. Although it would be great if he did! Godchaux rarely wins with power. He does have a little wiggle to slip a gap and loves to swim guys, but he just never stood out to me. He looks like depth. Godchaux will look his best in shorts and shells. I don’t think he’ll be replacing Phillips unless Phillips really bombs.
I went and looked just to see what’s been said about Godchaux because I hadn’t read anything about the kid. Here’s what the NFL combine site had to say about him. Rated him at a 5.41…NFL backup or special teams player…according to them. Of course, feel free to ignore any of it, as I usually do. Lol
OVERVIEW
Godchaux had a rough life growing up in Louisiana, even having his home riddled by bullets in a drive-by meant for one of his brothers. Despite missing all but the opener of his senior year in high school, LSU stuck by him — and it’s paid off. He started 10 times as a true freshman (including the final nine) on a line full of NFL talent, making 42 stops. The next year, Godchaux started every game, making nine plays behind the line including six sacks (two against Texas Tech in the Texas Bowl). SEC coaches left him off their all-conference teams in 2016, but the junior tackle played very well (7.5 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks). The lack of accolades had more to do with the number of sack artists in the conference, rather than a tale of his talent.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Gets out of his stance and into the blocker with good hip explosion. Plays with proper pad level at point of attack to create desired leverage. Hands-first striker who gets early arm extension. Utilizes hands and leverage for quality read-react positioning in the trenches. Hard to turn out of hole by single blockers. Well-coached. Has feel for double teams and looks to take them on quickly and with proper technique. Shows some early gap quickness when allowed to play upfield. Creates his best pass-rush opening with arm-over move. Decent pursuit quickness and makes attempts to chase down screen passes from backside.
WEAKNESSES Short-limbed pass rusher with squatty build of a bulldog. Undersized for interior work. Has issues fighting off double teams. Has difficult time reaching through the edge and pulling himself over the top. Might need more snaps off as motor seems to lose gas. Guards with a strong anchor put his pass rush in neutral. Often last defensive lineman out of his stance. Not very instinctive. Guards able to reach and hook his outside shoulder to seal him on play-side. Needs quicker disengage to tackle. Sack numbers came against lesser competition.
SOURCES TELL US “I want to see him make more impact plays. He plays team football, but at some point he’s got to go make more plays that matter.” — Southeast regional scout for AFC team
NFL COMPARISON Khyri Thornton
BOTTOM LINE Undersized three-technique who played with the punch and arm extension to set a strong edge even though he might be a better fit for a one-gap unit. Options could be limited as he lacks the mass to hold up against double teams, and he might be missing the traits to create quick wins as a pass rusher. He projects as a 4-3 rotational tackle with very little sub-package value.
-Lance Zierlein
It’s a bird
It’s a plane
No it’s – Under Tackle
Randy
I read Zierlein’s report on Godchaux, which admittedly isn’t a glowing report, and yet he predicted him to be drafted in RD 2 or 3. Strange, right?
BTW – How many people here think Godchaux will still be wearing #56 on opening day?
It’s possible, we had DTs last year wearing #’s in the 50s.
Did we? Man, I just don’t remember. Who were they?
I know both Vernon and Branch wore #50 the last couple of years, but other than them, I can’t think of any DT’s wearing numbers in the 50’s
Chris Jones wore #52.
Ah, there ya go
I think another DT had a # in the 50s too but he didn’t make the final roster.
MikeE,
I think lots of evaluations can easily be ignored. Mine included! I knew of Godchaux, but I hadn’t looked at him in depth. I was just kind of mildly surprised that Zierlein’s evaluation was so negative after some of the things I’d read here about Godchaux. When I watched his film, I saw a pretty average player that was fairly easily blocked when he played against good OL…specifically the Wisconsin game. He looked like a 4th, 5th round guy to me. I also think people tend to rate guys from big schools or conferences a little higher than they deserve based purely on their performance. I know I do it with OL from certain schools. Ultimately, he gets a fresh start in the NFL now, and I think he will benefit from having NFL coaches kicking him in the ass. He doesn’t have to come in and be an impact player. He has the opportunity to ge better. Hopefully he will.
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32 teams passed on him for almost 5 full rounds. There’s a reason for that.
Yep, no doubt. Same for Asiata.
I think both of the DTs we drafted are developmental guys who could earn a spot in the rotation but are not viewed as much more than that at this time.
Tim,
Nothing wrong with bringing in some youth along the DL. We needed it.
Agreed.
We’re really looking for two backup DTs and probably one for game day.
Joe Schad
@schadjoe DeVante Parker just made a SICK one-handed TD catch in near right corner of end zone and was mobbed by entire offense #MiamiDolphins
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@ArmandoSalguero After TD catch DeVante Parker got up in Byron Maxwell’s face mask and started trash talking. Never seen that before.
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@gunnerhal Maxwell just grinned at Parker. Classic.
Tim Knight says:
June 7, 2017 at 7:41 pm
Phillips is going to make the team. Whether or not he falls to #3 is another issue. 🙂
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I get that too, i don’t think Phillips would get cut, im saying he would lose his place on the Depth chart or become a special packages guy if he didn’t get his conditioning right.
Also to respond to Randy, Phillips definitely has a higher ceiling, but with his previous inability to stay on the field due to conditioning he has a lower floor as well. Im not prediciting Godchaux unseats Phillips, definitely not kicks him out, i am saying its within Godchaux’s ability level to do so, so Phillips is not not being challenged. Again i was more speaking to Godchauxs ability than Philips inability lol, dont see how that got mixed up.
Mike E. says:
June 8, 2017 at 8:28 am
Randy
I read Zierlein’s report on Godchaux, which admittedly isn’t a glowing report, and yet he predicted him to be drafted in RD 2 or 3. Strange, right?
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Not really strange, he gives pro’s and cons and we focus on the cons, look at his pro’s thats pretty glowing. Zerlin then balances out the pro’s and cons and come usp with 2nd round, im pretty much in the same boat, he’s 2nd round because the things he has a con’s are workable, they are things that he can overcome by putting in time in a strength and conditioning program so he can take on an anchored OL and shake him out of his anchor or even keep him from setting it. I really dont see anything damning in his evaluation of Godchaux.
A lot of his pro qualities are things also things you cant necessarily teach, or that if you do teach it, he is at a rally deep level of understanding and refinement you don’t normally get that straight out of college, there is usually continued refinement necessary once they reach the pro’s. His motor is also pretty good, he doesnt take plays off he does weaken as he tires, but gain,
Phillips was said to take plays off once he got tired, and there is a big difference from the perspective of a coach or scout between players who are one or the other. Phillips had 1st round talent but lost a round because he has lower round effort.
Godchaux lost a good chunk of his evaluation due to off field concerns, specifically the concerns of domestic violence, which the dolphins in their background investigations found were not supported in the police investigation. He probably lost a little because of conditioning as well, but it was mostly that. I personally think we got a steal.
As I mentioned an LSU die hard thinks he’ll be a very good pro. Same guy calls out players from LSU that he doesn’t think will do well, so not a whole ton of hometown in that aspect.
Ive already covered that he is not a straight up nose to nose DT, he is a gap penetrating DT. He though, did as he was assigned, and thats a good quality, because as a person trying to be a NFL DT, he could have change what he did so he played to his strength, so yeah, need better core strength, needs conditioning, but he has all the foundation to be a beast if he gets those to be better.
I completely disagree with your eval of him Randy, and despite the actuality of his draft position most everyone considered him 2nd round talent, so there also has to be reasons for that. I have stated why he wasnt, and with whats been going on in the NFL, that shit makes a big difference. Joe Mixon, almost all evaporators had him as potentially the best RB in this class, even with McCafferty and Fournette being such big names with so much hype around them, he goes 2nd, and probably could have gone later hadnt there been teams like Cincy who just dont care about the stigma of drafting players with rough pasts. Brantley nearly went undrafted because of it, and he was sure fire late first to 2nd round talent. So yeah there was a reason, but it wasnt because he wasnt talented.
lol evaluators
In regards to the 2 DTs we drafted I like both from what I’ve seen. The most important thing for me is they at least become 2 rotational pieces who can play in short spurts initially giving our starters more breathers. If they can hold their ground vs the run while they are in and provide some push on passing plays that would be ideal….once again in limited action.
I think its also good for them to be able to push for more time and potentially a starter because you just never know when you have to become that guy, either if you cant get a guy re-signed or an injury happens, etc. Im not saying i think they replace Phillips, i dont think thats even the intention right now, but what i am saying is i believe at least Godchaux can push him, and that makes for a really nice next man up scenario and an ideal rotational backup solution.
Omar KellyVerified account @OmarKelly 53m53 minutes ago
“I think I’m as good as I’ve been, and everyone will see that. Eyes will be opened,” Dolphins DT Lawrence Okoye on when pads come on.
I hope he is as well, nothing wrong with another DT capable of starting that is in our fold.
Go OKOYE!!
D,
As always, it’s cool to have differing opinions. I hope yours turns out to be the right one. Part of the fun of watching football for me is seeing how young guys develop. I’m just commenting on what I see now, and you may disagree. But, that doesn’t mean he can’t get better.
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Also, if you have some video to point me to that shows what you see, I’d love to see it. I watched just about everything I could find on the kid. I’m always open to changing my mind!
Here is one, ill post some more. You can see him getting under the OL, driving them back both in pass rush and run defense. You can see where he doesn’t give up on plays and will one of the few DL’s down the field or staying with the play to the end, but you can also see some of the he’s tired so he doesnt have the same pop or speed on these plays. A lot of whay i saw those was live, so im having to go back and find examples, you dont watch SEC football, so im sure what you had to review was limited, and ill admit, Wisconsin game wasn’t his best, but Wisconsin always has a great OL and they dominated LSU’s entire DL and LB’s that game. He did of course play against plenty of other teams that were of quality and he did pretty well against them.
D
In some cases “evaporators” is about right.
LOL, in a bunch of them its about right. Outside of a true scout, a person writing something to make others want to read it, have motivations outside of succinct evaluations that sometimes affect their evaluations. Its human instinct to kind of get behind certain player because you are alreay hearing some of your compatriots sing their priases, etc. Sometimes its in your motivations to set yourself aside from everyone else and deliberately go against the common statements about a persons skill set just so you dont loo like a copy cat or like you might be more in the know than them, so all of that makes evaluating and then getting clicks off what you say a bad combination for real scouting.
Scouts on the other hand dont have those motivation, they have motivations for get this shit right so that i hit with the players that my team picks because that’s my evaluation. They are therefore the best to find out from, but unfortunately, they are also the people you will never hear from because those evaluations have to stay private.
NFL.com does give a little scout synopsis, which I like. I think it’s very possible that it was one of our scouts who gave Zierlein that tidbit on Godchaux, it was listed as a Southeast Regional Scout for NFL team
Sources Tell Us “I want to see him make more impact plays. He plays team football, but at some point he’s got to go make more plays that matter.” — Southeast regional scout for AFC team
It is very nice to hear that Parking is getting BETTER!
Rishard Matthews right on top of him. Ironic
One of the best things said about Parker all the way through his college time and through the draft process was he had incredible catch radius, he could go up and get contested throws and his hands were amazing. Looks like that was something scouts got right.
Id love to see true scout notes sometimes. I have seen some of the ones my friend who covers the Senior Bowl and is there working with those guys while they eval players but of course its more just thoughts on some of the + and -‘s they have from that practice and not full evaluations, i would love to see a scouts notebook from say the full process of evaluating a player, so Harris, from the point at which they began their scouting all the way through to where they submitted to the FO. That would be a very neat exposure to a side of football i really like.
Me too. I would love to see a teams draft board even more
Specifically, the Dolphins draft board
I think Mike for him to have more really stand out plays would be for him to increase his core strength so he could overwhelm an OL. When your technique is good and you gin the advantage over the OL, they can get the advantage back but they have to do it through brute strength or having good fallback technique, where they might give a little ground but can re-establish leverage, and/or res-set their anchor. I watched Steen do it a good bit last year, he has a really good counter when he initially doesn’t get a chance to anchor well.
Oh i was trying to say also, if he combines strength to fight through their counters, and split doubleteams, etc. He will be a lot closer to a complete player.
Matt Burke explains how he views strong and free safety as well as other areas of the defense.
http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Matt_Burke_Breaks_Down_Dolphins_Defense/3f7e2f5c-3bf6-420a-90cd-a3f8e5d646a3
Rashawn Scott is probably out until camp with a foot injury. Sucks for him. He actually made the 53 last year as a UDFA. The Dolphins have signed Mitch Mathews another UDFA from BYU to replace him until he can come back.
Leonte Carroo probably just let out a sigh of relief
Carroo isn’t taking anything for granted this year. He was upset with himself last year for not putting in the extra work he needed to in order to be the best he can. Last year he took is draft grade for granted and it bit him. He said that it won’t happen this year and he is working his ass off to make sure. Now that could be lip service, but I hope it is not.
Words from a young man learning how to be a pro.
http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Carroo_Im_Ready_For_The_New_Year/55ed6ca2-9e0c-494f-b959-3a959b0c6d31
an on cue Tim posts the video. LOL
LOL, it doesn’t sound like lip service. He seemed genuine and realized he’s not good enough to just rely on his physical ability at the next level.
Yeah Tim but its all lip service unless he shows up on the field with actions to back the words. I agree he sounds genuine, but even genuine talk becomes cheap with out doing.
D, he said what the difference is in what he’s doing working with Stills, more film study etc. All he can do is be candid about it which he was and we’ll see if the work he’s putting in results in more production. He didn’t blow it off as a lack of opportunity while being cocky and playing victim. That would have been a bad sign. Some guys do take that road. That won’t fly here under Gase and Carroo knows it. At least he seems to get it. He seemed humble with his tail between his legs at the podium. Let’s hope he’s being truthful, he does have talent.
I heard we’re going to hold joint practices with the Eagles.
Something this team hadn’t done since Coach Shula was in charge.
No we’ve done it since him and even scrimmages in TC. Remember when Suh said we beat the shit out of the Panthers when Benjamin went down for the year for them as did Delmas for us. That was the season the Panthers went to the SB in 15/16.
I also remember us doing this when Fiedler was QB.
Oh right I completely forgot. Yeah Carolina inferred we beat the shit out of them and then go to the Super Bowl while we took a shit
Yep pretty much. 😦
The WR from BYU Mathews is 6’6
From Mathew’s Pro Day
Wide receiver Mitch Mathews — 6-5 5/8, 222 — ran the 40 in 4.47 and 4.49 seconds. He had a 36-inch vertical and 10-foot-9 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.25 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.99 seconds. Mathews — who has 10 3/8-inch hands — performed 12 reps on the bench press. Mathews — who had a memorable Hail Mary catch in the season-opening win over Nebraska — really looked good catching the ball and running routes at BYU’s pro day. Mathews appears to be worthy of a late-round draft selection.
I haven’t heard anything about 7th rd pick Isaiah Ford in OTAs. Is he not showing anything or does he have those weird college graduation restrictions?
HEY MIKE E.; Another really fine analysis of a Dolphin draft choice.
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The state of Tennessee has never won a pro sports championship in one of the big 4 sports. Could this be the year?
PS: They drop the puck at about 8:15 or so on NBC. I expect the roar from Pittsburgh fans to be deafening.
Thanks OD
I wish we could find some young UDFA DTs with stats like that new WR. Maybe we have them already, but the tape above of Davon is sketchy at best.
Coach Gace had the team practice in the rain that caused flooding throughout davie. Sawgrass Mills mall 6th largest in US has been closed for 2 days now because of the flooding. I heard from a neighbor American Heritage HS football field is 4 ft under since the street is 4-5 ft above the playing field. School has been closed for 3 days.Neighbors pooled popped up from ground since the ground became so saturated Checked my mail for first time since the floods and I didn’t receive any mail for 3 days and yet the postal service says they deliver no matter what during bad weather. I guess I should be happy we got no bills in 3-4 days.
Nice job mike. I really think some of these late round picks could become more productive than the 1st rounders. Some of them fall because they are not ready day 1. I think Godchaux is one of those types of players.
Thanks Boulder
Godchaux looks a bit like Pouncey.
Sad story. He was a WR I remember a lot of us discussed as a prospect years back. But he never really panned out. RIP
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19581272/body-ex-buffalo-bills-receiver-james-hardy-found-river
And just 31. Whatever happened RIP indeed.
Damn, that’s sad. RIP James Hardy
I totally remember discussing him as a prospect.
Gase on Chip Kelly, who was at practice yesterday. Part of why the guys is a thinker. Always trying to get good ideas from people with new ones…..even if we might not run a Chip Kelly O next season.
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“I think when he came in the league, there were a lot of things I was interested in what they were doing and kind of hearing about. Things not just football-wise, but sports science stuff they did at Oregon that they brought to Philadelphia. I was really intrigued by it, and I was able to go to Oregon for a visit.”
“we studied a lot of his stuff. Just being able to have some discussions over the last couple of years, and just figuring out ways to change tempos of the game and some of the ways to practice, to do things not only on the field but off the field, I’m always trying to ask questions to pick a guy’s mind that’s had success at both levels.”
I’ve now seen Omar and James Walker say that our secondary looks good early on.
Jets cut David Harris. That’s cold man
They’re looking to trade or cut Eric Decker too. I have no idea what the Jets are doing. LOL
It’s bad timing for Harris. He deserves better than that
Agreed. Meanwhile… LOL
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-christian-hackenberg-apparently-twice-hit-reporters-with-errant-throws-at-otas/
LMAO! If the reporters were talking shit about him, they may not have been errant, but otherwise, that’s hilarious
I hate it for those older, aging vets who have given their best for teams, because the salary caps, etc just make it impossible to keep rewarding them as they should. Its kinda like if any of us were killing ourselves for our companies and one day they just came to you and said, yeah man i love how you work, i love what you bring to the table but im just going to have to have you either take a quarter of what you have been and still up your level of play, if im going to keep you here. Oh and seriously, htis is no fault of your own, infact its pretty much this job that has got you to the point where we are just thinking we might as well just bring in a new guy.
My job, and the field i am in, software development is kinda of like that, its a young mans game but how deep you understand the system still affords you a “can afford to lose him” nod. Some artistry type fields (you an probably attest to this some Tim, aren’t you in graphic design/advertising?) are young men’s playgrounds, because those businesses like fresh idea, but again, there are nuances you learn in those fields that a learned man still holds considerable value. Football though, its brutal, i mean people almost stop even thinking about you once you roll over to thirty.
Yep!
Tim Knight says:
June 8, 2017 at 5:45 pm
D, he said what the difference is in what he’s doing working with Stills, more film study etc. All he can do is be candid about it which he was and we’ll see if the work he’s putting in results in more production. He didn’t blow it off as a lack of opportunity while being cocky and playing victim. That would have been a bad sign. Some guys do take that road. That won’t fly here under Gase and Carroo knows it. At least he seems to get it. He seemed humble with his tail between his legs at the podium. Let’s hope he’s being truthful, he does have talent.
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Tim im not questioning his sincerity, i heard his words i get the same evaluation you have regarding his genuine truthfulness. I am still saying even guys who really mean that still have to deliver. I can care about a customers needs, and i cant tell them i will meet your needs and i cant completely mean it, but if i still dont deliver i still have a unsatisfied customer. Im really not judging the guy, i have no place to do that.
It’s all good.
Tim Knight says:
June 9, 2017 at 11:42 am
I’ve now seen Omar and James Walker say that our secondary looks good early on.
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Then we’d better try to upgrade our secondary ASAP.
LOL, they touched on the young talent, being healthy and deeper.
I would’ve expected Omar to say our secondary sucks because we didn’t sign Seanathan Smith. LOL
Well technically it was really only one person saying good things, the other just copied the first. Those guys i think share a brain sometimes, which really makes you question, if the shit they say can come out as stupid as it does sometimes, how big are their brain’s individually….
LOL
What is up FUers? Been crazy busy but I am checking in
No excuses! Me too but im here writing novella’s
Tim Knight says:
June 8, 2017 at 7:03 pm
I haven’t heard anything about 7th rd pick Isaiah Ford in OTAs. Is he not showing anything or does he have those weird college graduation restrictions?
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He’s been practicing, there just hasnt been anything of note on him i dont think. Drew Morgan has been stealing the show, showing up better than Caroo, Grant, and Ford. Dont know if that means he will get a sot yet, but early on he has had nothing but good things said about him. I think Those guys need to step it up, or one of them might be odd man out.
I take that back, partially, i did heard something about him having a nice practice the other day. It was like a one sentence thing after two paragraphs about how impressive Morgan has been, and went something like “Oh, and Isaiah Ford had a nice pricestice as well” lol
hear
LOL, yes Morgan seems to be flashing the most but supposedly so is Parker and Carroo had a good day yesterday.
Tim Knight says:
June 9, 2017 at 11:58 am
LOL, they touched on the young talent, being healthy and deeper.
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Got a little worried, i thought you had just said they had been touching the young talent…..different read when it comes across that way.
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Yeah Parker has been having a great OTA, im glad i was really excited when we landed him and im really hoping for his benefit and ours this is the year where we go…wow, totally worth it. I think Caroo is coming around too. Id hate being grant right now, because they also have Morgan doing punt/kickoff returns. Caroo im about 60% sure is safe, but again i think it really depends on how cleanly his OTA and TC goes. Dropped passes, or just completely blowing route or assignments might sink him. They are going to expect refinement and better understanding of the system at the very least this pre-season, being its year two for him.
Hands are an issue with Grant.
Keep writing the Novellas D. Always a good read
I don’t see Grant having much of a future with us. He is an exciting but inconsistent punt returner who brings little else to the table
He’s been dropping passes a bit when he has played at WR in OTA’s. They said he had some brilliant catches with extra yards after the catch but then would turn around and drop two right after.
We’ll see on him, but seems he is also an exciting guy to throw in there. Jets and moves like that you can’t train. Even if sure they are working real hard on his hands.
Good to see the Hulk. Was sorta of hoping it would be Dr. Banner that showed up though. 🙂
Hulk is just in a holding pattern waiting to see what this team brings us this year
lol…..sorry has been crazy busy for you, but heck….you could be Trump’s new private lawyer or Sean Spicer.
That would be a client from hell I pity whoever represents him. Some clients are just not worth the fee
Good to see you Ken!
Now where is Piggy?
He is still probably recovering from the move
Or he’s lost in Ikea again. LOL
White water rafting
For Grant to see playing time at any other position who do you take off the field?
To give one of the others a breather. He’s not going to surpass the top 3.
He is a gadget player at best. You put him on the field and everyone expects a gadget play. You don’t put him on the field to give one of the top 3 a rest. He is just not good enough to do that
Well Christensen said they’re going to give him a shot to be more than that so we’ll see.
Alright I have to get to court drive by is over. Peace
Some good stuff.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article155277174.html
I’d totally buy one of these devices for football games. Lol
That’s Awesome !! Too bad the ones for the guys only hold a shot 😦
I saw this yesterday. LOL
Mandatory Minicamp: June 13-15
That’s when the pads go on.
The pads Herd just showed us?
That is so silly. LOL
I’m silly like that
Friday NFL Trivia: Who Am I?
I was selected to my very first 1st-team All-Pro at the tender age of 39 years old, though I was selected to my first of several Pro-Bowl teams at 24 years old. I’ve never played for the Miami Dolphins, though I’ve gone through many a battle against Don Shula-coached teams over the years. I was born in Africa, and I never once played a single snap for the very team that drafted me. Who am I?
I’m willing to bet that Dbolt gets this right before anyone else… though Tim is quite resourceful himself…
Gary Anderson
South Africa
Ken says:
June 9, 2017 at 12:47 pm
He is a gadget player at best. You put him on the field and everyone expects a gadget play. You don’t put him on the field to give one of the top 3 a rest. He is just not good enough to do that
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I think he is also a distraction if used correctly. You have to hit on a few of those gadget plays early to make people wary that you may use him like that when he is out there, but then you could use him as a misdirection from the way the play is actually designed. Still he has to be viable for teams to pay attention to him but if you have to account for him, that’s one less double team they can put on someone else. Thats also kinda the reason that the success of Thomas could really open our playbook up. Too many threats on the field to adequately cover all of them.
Thats said, Grant is not the only person that could be that guy, he just is one of those very explosive players who if you dont account for, its probably not just a 10-20 yard gain, its a 40+ yard TD.
You have to get him on the field a dozen or so times to set up a gadget play for him. Can’t just put him out there 3 or 4 times and try to get him the ball.
MF, i honestly had to look it up but i was on the right track, i was thinking Morten Anderson, and i knew he was foreign born i just couldn’t remember where (its Denmark btw). Once i figured out it wasnt him, i knew it had to be Gary, but Tim had already figured it out by then.
Tim Knight says:
June 9, 2017 at 3:01 pm
Gary Anderson
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BOOM!!! You are EXACTLY correct, sir! Well done!
I knew it had to be a kicker or punter. 🙂
And I knew that cats with great football acumen would pick up on that right away! 🙂
🙂
Gary Anderson is the oldest player to ever get his FIRST 1st-team All-Pro bid… and the oldest player to ever get a 1st-team All-Pro bid, period.
“I feel really good about our defense, because they do a lot of really good things and it makes it very difficult for our offense to consistently move the ball,” Adam Gase said Thursday.
Well, let us hope that it’s not just because the Offense sucks!
The offense beat the defense up that last day of OTAs.
Tim Knight says:
June 9, 2017 at 11:54 am
They’re looking to trade or cut Eric Decker too. I have no idea what the Jets are doing. LOL
They are dropping all their “older” more expensive players and clearing cap space “for the future”
Basically they are tanking the season for a chance at one of the top QB’s next draft. They are sucking for …….
Yeah it does seem that way. Hopefully they’ll fuck that up too. LOL
LOL God damn it! we can’t do anything right! We tried to Tank the season and made the playoffs.
LOL, or they win the last game of the year 5-3 by getting a safety knocking them out of the top 3 in the draft.
Breaking news…..the other news agency is reporting such & such….we cannot confirm the report.
The quote I read on Twitter (I forget from who) said the next pass Morgan drops in practice will be his first.
Phindog says:
June 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm
That’s Awesome !! Too bad the ones for the guys only hold a shot 😦
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Speak for yourself Doggy. I guess they call it a “Pink Pencil” for a reason.
From Barry Jackson at the Herald
“Isaiah Ford, the Dolphins’ seventh-round pick, dropped a pass from Matt Moore during the OTA session open to reporters last week and hasn’t done anything to stand out in three sessions open to reporters. The next 18 practices (three next week and the first 15 of training camp) will be open to reporters.”
Drew Morgan might be the sleeper WR for us. He’s not fast 4.74 40 but he did have the best 60 yard shuttle for WRs. He runs really good routes and has excellent hands. He could be Landry’s backup as a slot guy. He also returns punts and is said to have some good moves despite his lack of speed. He’s considered to be a tough guy.
Trivia question:
Name two of the three players who have worn #1 for the miami Dolphins.
Garo and Flipper
Bonus question:
How many numbers did Brandon Fields wear for the Dolphins and what were the numbers…….
Anyone, Stanger, Anyone?
Far as I am concerned he only ever wore the #2 that goes on my back.
D says:
June 9, 2017 at 4:18 pm
MF, i honestly had to look it up but i was on the right track, i was thinking Morten Anderson, and i knew he was foreign born i just couldn’t remember where (its Denmark btw). Once i figured out it wasnt him, i knew it had to be Gary, but Tim had already figured it out by then.
Gary played for the Steelers from 82-94 so that matched up with the Shula battles. Morten was mostly NFC. But those were the two I went to first as well. I also thought maybe Ray Guy.
Yeah i wasnt thinking about it much, and yeah we were always meeting the Steelers later in the year back then. Probably, outside of our AFC east rivals, the next biggest rivalry the Phins have.
Poor Ray Guy…. glad it finally happened for him. He is a local (Hattiesburg) hero kinda guy, so its nice he finally got his due. That dude was a wicked punter, well before doing those kind of things in the punting game became a weapon for changing the outcome of a game.
Tim Knight says:
June 9, 2017 at 4:09 pm
Drew Morgan might be the sleeper WR for us. He’s not fast 4.74 40 but he did have the best 60 yard shuttle for WRs. He runs really good routes and has excellent hands. He could be Landry’s backup as a slot guy. He also returns punts and is said to have some good moves despite his lack of speed. He’s considered to be a tough guy.
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He’s a poor mans Cooper Kupp, he has a lot of the gritty traits Kupp does same play with heart style, not afraid to get in there as a blocker, very team first kinda player. I had he and Trent Taylor, down as WR’s we might look at at later rounds last year, and was pretty shocked he went undrafted. Difference between Kupp, Taylor and Morgan isnt a bunch. Morgan had a 4.59 and a 4.64 for his pro-day times.
Even better then. I could totally see him backing up Landry’s role. Landry, Stills, Parker, Carroo, Morgan and Grant could be our 6.
Mike E. says:
June 9, 2017 at 4:15 pm
Garo and Flipper
Flipper isn’t a player! LOL
Garo, Matt Turk, Tony Franklin
Mike wins the “Close enough” prize. Any of the two series of books by Raymond E. Fiest that he hasn’t read yet. (I’ve got like 15 books for you here bro if you want them)
LOL – I bought 8 of them not too long ago. I’m on the Shadow of a Dark Queen
D, I always thought Steelers and Raiders outside of our division were the biggest rivals during Shula’s tenure.
Chiefs too
As much as the Steelers and Raiders?
D, Ray Guy is still the best punter of all time. He was like an excellent golfer, could put the ball where he wanted it to go.
Good to see this today……and yeah that is a Rock on Fire. 🙂
What is the Pats strategy on offense? Have guys who get open and can catch the ball, mix in a solid running game and let the individual big plays happen. Don’t force anything. Brady is very good at being patient with this system. It’s a proven way of doing things.
To me Ajayi, Landry and Thomas can make that approach happen in Miami. Can Tannehill take that next step too? When Stills or Parker are there for a big play take it.
Among other things, Pats like guys who can cut and get open over pure burners. We have that kinda of guy in Landry, but then they have Brady too to hit that open window before it closes. We definitely have the running game and wait for big play part already…..and seems we are moving towards the mix and match parts to who we are playing as well.
I started my post off saying that. LOL
Tim — sometimes I am so much in agreement with one of your points that I find myself repeating them just to make sure everyone gets how great it was and then head off from there. Not sure why you find that funny though. It is the highest compliment I can give.
So far i havent heard much about Owusu from OTA’s, couple mentions here or there but he was and Stringfellow were both guys i really liked hearing we picked up as UDFA’s. Stringfellow has had a couple good mentions too,
Prior to OTA’s i felt pretty good about Owusu making the team, but right now i think if i had to pick our 5 WR’s id probably have:
Landry
Stills
Parker
Caroo
Morgan
Im also not sure who will wind up being seen as the 4th vs the 5th in that list.
If we keep a 6th, then i think it comes down to these guys, and like i said i think Grant has the upper hand in being that guy, but its more 60/40 than really certain.
Grant
Stringfellow
Ford
Stringfellow fills the biggest void in or WR packages though, because he is a really good third down and red zone WR and he is a bigger bodied WR which we are not loaded down with those guys.
Ford is more like the WR’s we have on our roster, making him both intriging as a next man up, yet not as intriguing because he doesn’t give us anything towards variety when it comes to what kind of packages he could be included in. I think Ford could edge them out because as an overall receiver, he’s probably better of those three, i am discouraged though that i only heard a few brief and in passing comments about him in OTA’s.
Grant simply has to show he is past some of his rookie mistakes, and i think he is in. The coaches seem to like him, he has a pretty infections personality, but its going to come down to those fumbles, and dropping passes. He cant afford many of those.
We kept 6 last year and as a predominantly 3 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB offense, I see us keeping 6 again.
D says:
June 9, 2017 at 4:34 pm
Poor Ray Guy…. glad it finally happened for him.
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I’m not sure what ya mean by “glad it finally happened to him” with your above context, but the ‘Ray Guy Award’ has been handed out by the NCAA every year for quite some time to the best punter.
I can tell you this… Ray Guy vs Reggie Roby was always an incredible thing to witness, both statistically and when against one another in-game. I’ve ALWAYS appreciated Ray Guy.
Glad he finally got into the Hall.
Roby’s hang time was incredible but he didn’t have the ball placement skills of Guy.
Which dome was it he hit the rafters on…i cant remember.
Roby’s hang time and Guy’s directional accuracy. Guy was a master.
Having an award named after you for college sports is an honor no doubt, but finally getting your place in the hall of fame with other players who were the best at their positions was something that at one time didnt look like it was going to happen for Guy. It took a lot of petitions and him being brought in by the senior council for him to actually make it. Big travesty imo, same with Roby, but again, Guy doesnt make it in, then you cant really consider other punters, so it was a big deal for a lot of reasons finally getting hm in there.
Why can’t a punter be in the HOF? It’s a football position. Every team has one. It’s that sportswriter arrogance, well he’s just a punter. Yeah a position that can fuck the entire game up for you or win it. Team game, punter is part of it. 🙂
LMAO at Rock
ok so here’s one for us
TJ Barnes DT from Ga Tech 6’7 364
just got released by the Chiefs.
There’s a young run-stuffer for us to try out.
He is officially one of the largest players in the NFL.
He has played for four teams in four years in the NFL, 3 yrs with the Jets.
Cordrea Tankersley intercepted another pass in OTAs, his second of Spring Practice.
Stanger, Fields wore #4 like Roby in 2007 before changing to #2 in 2008
So stoked that my son got his first “real” job after graduating college. I’m so excited for him, it’s exactly the type of work he wanted. I think it’s a great opportunity for him.
D – I believe he’s entering the same field you work in.
Awesome Mike E — and in the field he wants is a whole lot more important than whatever the money is. Is the job near where you guys live?
In Manhattan, right near the Empire State Building
Cool — sounds like he has some exciting times ahead. Nothing like being young and in NYC. Also guessing there are some small and shared apartments in his future. One of my ex-girlfriends slept on a futon in what became the living room during the day……but at least a shower curtain thing was there at night.
LOL – No doubt! He already has grand plans of living in Hoboken, although I don’t think he quite understands that his entire salary will be dedicated to paying the rent.
My best advice to him is make good friends with the dudes who live where the party ends up each night…..but live with guys more worried about going to work the next day. That will tend to get the rent and electric bill paid on time as well.
That’s some sound advice right there . . .
ABC News @ABC
NEW: Adam West, famous for playing Batman on 1960s television show, passes away after battle with leukemia, his family says.
RIP Adam
RIP Batman
Dang, no more Mayor Adam West on Family Guy either. RIP
RIP Batman
RIP Adam West
Interesting:
https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/mars-hole-picture-alien
Mike you could convince him to be a granny chaser, don’t a lot of older people in Hoboken have rent controlled apartments, and aren’t they able to will those to others? Couple years of torture might wind up paying a lifetime of dividends lol
It’s already been a somewhat busy year for celeb deaths, lots to younger ones and sadly lots to suicide
Yes it has. 😦
It’s all good Stanger. 🙂
Always is Tim…you keep this place going on the best football points.
Thanks man.
Interesting
S’up…?
What’s up Phish?