Davon Godchaux #56 – RD 5 Pick #178


The Dolphins went back to defense, after selecting 3 defensive players in a row to start the draft with Harris, McMillan and Tankersley, then going offense with OG Isaac Asiata, it was DT Davon Godchaux who was chosen by Miami at pick #178.

Godchaux was a 3 YR starter at LSU, playing in 35 games.  Godchaux finished up an impressive Junior season with 62 tackles (24 solo), 8.5 TFL, 1 PD, 6.5 sacks, and 2 FR’s.

Zierlein from NFL.com projected Godchaux to go between RD 2-3, but that obviously didn’t happen.  Godchuax has good explosion, but at the moment, that’s his best quality.  He’s a little undersized, underpowered, and not very instinctive.  He’s going to have a lot of learning to do to be anything but a guy who is part of the rotation, and he’s also going to have to be dedicated in the gym.  Short arms and 18 reps for an NFL DT isn’t gonna cut it.  Still, Davon has potential, so it’s on our coaches to bring that out.  Godchaux did improve his bench press to 22 reps at the LSU pro day, so there’s hope.

Good news for Godchaux is right now, we don’t have that much depth behind Suh and Phillips, so his competition at the moment is Lawrence Okoye, and fellow draft mate Vincent Taylor.  Okoye, BTW hasn’t played a game in the NFL, but brings some interesting measurables to the table.  At the 2013 Central Florida Pro Day Okoye at 6’6″ 304 ran a 4.78 40, (10 YD split of 1.67), 36″ vertical, 10.7″ broad jump, along with putting up 30 reps on the bench press.  Maybe even more impressive, a seemingly impossible 3 cone of 6.68.  At 6’6″ 304 lbs?  That’s insanity!  Oops, this article is about Godchaux!

The Dolphins need Godchaux to grow into a good NFL player, they really can’t spend anymore $$$ on the DT position, with Suh, and Phillips eventually due for a payday or his release after 2018, depending on which way his arrow is pointing.  Hopefully, Godchaux can live up to his potential, and be a contributor in our defense, and not someone to just give Suh or Phillips a breather.

GO DOLPHINS!  Zero in!

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326 Responses to Davon Godchaux #56 – RD 5 Pick #178

  1. Tim Knight says:

    We also have journeyman Nick Williams but he’s probably a long shot. Hopefully at least one other DT really steps up as the #3. It would be great if we hit on Godchaux and Taylor.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I also won’t be surprised to see Hayes lineup at DT in some sub packages. Warmsley is another guy though he’s listed as a DE. But he might have a hard time making the team.

      I noticed two of the UDFAs we signed at DE are also bigger guys at 6-6 270 – Cameron Malveaux and Arthur Miley. Not saying they’ll play DT just that we added some size at DE as well to compete along with the smaller edge guys we have.

    • Mike E. says:

      How about those pro day numbers on Okoye? That some impressive stuff! Can he put that into use on the field is a different story, but maybe a late bloomer?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah he has the physical gifts. Former British rugby player learning the game of football. He went undrafted in 2013 so his time might be running out.

  2. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, good job posting about our draftees.

  3. Tim Knight says:

    I watched a video of Tankersley at the podium and he said he’s worked some in the slot in OTAs and did it quite a bit in college. He’s a humble dude who’s also confident in his ability.

    • stangerx says:

      He might have done some slot, but looks more boundary. Would rather have Howard in there.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Slot doesn’t always have to be smaller. It seems to me that we want more range at corner than small quick guys. Howard is playing mostly boundary in OTAs and is likely going to be one of the starters. He’s also 6-1 200 just like Tankersley.

      • stangerx says:

        I’m just going off what people say…..so what do I know? But book on the draft evals was Tankersley is best on the outside and other folks say Howard can do slot.

  4. stangerx says:

    Thanks as always Mike E. And great info on Godchaux. Seems a bit of a project, but what else do you expect in the 5th? Seems he might fit well as a ST/minor rotation spell/back-up. Seems like the double down at DT or the 2nd contract coming up has Phillips in shape for passing downs though…..but heck that might make the picks worth it all by themselves.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Godchaux has some of that quick off the ball ability to get into the backfield more so than anchoring. He’ll probably see most of his time in nickel and dime situations at least early on. Has to make the team first.

      Vincent Taylor seems to be one of those guys who has the frame to get bigger and become a guy who can anchor and hold up in the run game.

      • stangerx says:

        Cool info….seems maybe we got two DTs for two different situations. These guys think ahead.

  5. dbolt48 says:

    Good article Mike and timely also seeing Burk talked about him today as standing out so far.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We’ve got a good DL room for these rooks to learn from. Lots of good experienced players. You could also say we’re getting there at LB and DB. This roster now on defense looks a whole lot better than it did this time last year especially with getting guys back healthy. It’s going to be fun watching it pan out to about 25. Good blend of experience and youth competing.

      • dbolt48 says:

        I follow an LSU fan on twitter who thinks he’ll be an excellent NFL player. The guy is pretty honest about the LSU players good or bad.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Cool! It’s not like we need these guys to start. At least not at the moment. Fingers crossed ;). If we’re 2 weeks into TC and we see a lack of depth we’ll likely reach out to some DTs who at least have some experience and held their own. But this is the time to try and find some young gems.

        There has also been some chirping that Burke might revitalize some speed package stuff with the addition of Hayes and Harris. Similar to what Coyle tried to do with Wake, Suh, Vernon and Jordan. Spread the OL in wide 9 with talented, mobile and quick players – Wake, Suh, Hayes and Branch/Harris.

  6. Mike E. says:


    Good thing Godchaux was our 5th pick so it can be so “timely”. 😉

  7. Mike E. says:

    Think Okoye’s got some quads?

    • Tim Knight says:

      One of the goofy reasons he was waived by ARZ is he parked in Bruce Arian’s parking spot. LOL

      • Mike E. says:

        LMAO!! I would like to have seen him throw Arians like a discus after he got cut. lol

  8. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, funny thing about Vincent Taylor is he had 7 sacks last year playing in a pass happy conference and didn’t grade out well as a run defender. But he didn’t get a lot of snaps doing it either. He’s considered to be too upright with a thinner lower body than preferred and being too top heavy. To me he looks like a guy who could get bigger by redefining his body in the next couple of years and be a load for OL to move. I don’t expect him to be a high sack guy in the NFL although that would be cool if he was. 🙂

    He’s got aways to go but we’ll see.

  9. D says:

    Godchaux being an SEC player is someone i watched a bit. He can be really destructive, he is more effective when he is lined up in the gap asked to split the blockers. He is not going to go toe to toe with a 330lb OG who is locked in and move him. He probably will get a lot better if he really takes his strength and conditioning program seriously because he seems to lose some of his better traits as he stays out there for a while and tires and his overall strength isn’t where it needs to be. If the gets it there though he could be a real steal as a 5th round selection. I think had he not shown some of those drop offs in tape he would have been a solid 2nd rounder.

    I dont know if i think he will ever be a Suh type player, but i think if Phillips doesn’t progress, he might could replace him with a year of conditioning to do it. I think he is easily better and has a higher ceiling than the rest of the guys on our DL other than Suh and Phillips, and like i said Phillips shouldn’t feel really comfortable either.

  10. D says:

    Mike, cone drills doesn’t do anything for a DL. Id focus on his vert, broad and bench numbers. Good broad and vert numbers (which he does have) would go play into his explosiveness off the line and how much power he could generate out of his stance, combine that with solid BP numbers and you have a guy that if his technique is good he should be able to get under and OL well and stand him up, shed him, so those numbers yeah he should be dominant.

    Given though that he hasn’t caught on with anyone, and he was cut early in the process, im wonder if is technique is very good after all, and the cut early in the process usually leans towards not being as coach-able as others. There has to be justification to why such a dominant athlete isn’t making more of himself. Im willing to give him the benefit of possibly just bad circumstance but i wouldn’t get overly shocked when or if he doesn’t make it

    • D says:

      Btw those numbers are good enough to be for a LB or DE at the very least. Those are incredible numbers for a DL.

  11. Mike E. says:


    I get that man, unless maybe he was playing DE. I was just pointing out how athletic he is. It’s startling to me that he could do those things at that size.

  12. Randy says:

    I don’t pay much attention to drill numbers, but I do think the cone drill can be suggestive of a guy’s quickness and mobility. For an undersized guy like Okoye who’s probably gonna be a penetrator and not a space-eater, it can be significant. I think the fact that he hasn’t been able to stick on a roster for years is probably more significant than any drill numbers though. Doesn’t hurt to bring the kid in and kick his tires though. I would imagine they envision him as a pass rushing sub package guy, if anything.

  13. Randy says:

    Godchaux is an under tackle…just like Phillips. But, I think Phillips has more power and some flexibility and size to move around a little bit….although I hope he can keep his weight down and play around 310-315. I think Phillips has a much higher ceiling than Godchaux. Phillips can dominate when singled on a guard, and he’s done it to NFL guards. I never saw Godchaux do the things in college that Phillips has done in the NFL. I’d be shocked if Phillips wasn’t starting, and surprised if Godchaux pushes him for a lot of snaps. Although it would be great if he did! Godchaux rarely wins with power. He does have a little wiggle to slip a gap and loves to swim guys, but he just never stood out to me. He looks like depth. Godchaux will look his best in shorts and shells. I don’t think he’ll be replacing Phillips unless Phillips really bombs.

  14. Randy says:

    I went and looked just to see what’s been said about Godchaux because I hadn’t read anything about the kid. Here’s what the NFL combine site had to say about him. Rated him at a 5.41…NFL backup or special teams player…according to them. Of course, feel free to ignore any of it, as I usually do. Lol

    Godchaux had a rough life growing up in Louisiana, even having his home riddled by bullets in a drive-by meant for one of his brothers. Despite missing all but the opener of his senior year in high school, LSU stuck by him — and it’s paid off. He started 10 times as a true freshman (including the final nine) on a line full of NFL talent, making 42 stops. The next year, Godchaux started every game, making nine plays behind the line including six sacks (two against Texas Tech in the Texas Bowl). SEC coaches left him off their all-conference teams in 2016, but the junior tackle played very well (7.5 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks). The lack of accolades had more to do with the number of sack artists in the conference, rather than a tale of his talent.


    STRENGTHS Gets out of his stance and into the blocker with good hip explosion. Plays with proper pad level at point of attack to create desired leverage. Hands-first striker who gets early arm extension. Utilizes hands and leverage for quality read-react positioning in the trenches. Hard to turn out of hole by single blockers. Well-coached. Has feel for double teams and looks to take them on quickly and with proper technique. Shows some early gap quickness when allowed to play upfield. Creates his best pass-rush opening with arm-over move. Decent pursuit quickness and makes attempts to chase down screen passes from backside.

    WEAKNESSES Short-limbed pass rusher with squatty build of a bulldog. Undersized for interior work. Has issues fighting off double teams. Has difficult time reaching through the edge and pulling himself over the top. Might need more snaps off as motor seems to lose gas. Guards with a strong anchor put his pass rush in neutral. Often last defensive lineman out of his stance. Not very instinctive. Guards able to reach and hook his outside shoulder to seal him on play-side. Needs quicker disengage to tackle. Sack numbers came against lesser competition.

    SOURCES TELL US “I want to see him make more impact plays. He plays team football, but at some point he’s got to go make more plays that matter.” — Southeast regional scout for AFC team

    NFL COMPARISON Khyri Thornton

    BOTTOM LINE Undersized three-technique who played with the punch and arm extension to set a strong edge even though he might be a better fit for a one-gap unit. Options could be limited as he lacks the mass to hold up against double teams, and he might be missing the traits to create quick wins as a pass rusher. He projects as a 4-3 rotational tackle with very little sub-package value.
    -Lance Zierlein

  15. son of a son of a shula says:

    It’s a bird
    It’s a plane

    No it’s – Under Tackle

  16. Mike E. says:


    I read Zierlein’s report on Godchaux, which admittedly isn’t a glowing report, and yet he predicted him to be drafted in RD 2 or 3. Strange, right?

  17. Mike E. says:

    BTW – How many people here think Godchaux will still be wearing #56 on opening day?

  18. Mike E. says:

    I know both Vernon and Branch wore #50 the last couple of years, but other than them, I can’t think of any DT’s wearing numbers in the 50’s

  19. Randy says:

    I think lots of evaluations can easily be ignored. Mine included! I knew of Godchaux, but I hadn’t looked at him in depth. I was just kind of mildly surprised that Zierlein’s evaluation was so negative after some of the things I’d read here about Godchaux. When I watched his film, I saw a pretty average player that was fairly easily blocked when he played against good OL…specifically the Wisconsin game. He looked like a 4th, 5th round guy to me. I also think people tend to rate guys from big schools or conferences a little higher than they deserve based purely on their performance. I know I do it with OL from certain schools. Ultimately, he gets a fresh start in the NFL now, and I think he will benefit from having NFL coaches kicking him in the ass. He doesn’t have to come in and be an impact player. He has the opportunity to ge better. Hopefully he will.
    32 teams passed on him for almost 5 full rounds. There’s a reason for that.

  20. Tim Knight says:

    I think both of the DTs we drafted are developmental guys who could earn a spot in the rotation but are not viewed as much more than that at this time.

  21. Randy says:

    Nothing wrong with bringing in some youth along the DL. We needed it.

  22. Mike E. says:

    Joe Schad
    ‎@schadjoe DeVante Parker just made a SICK one-handed TD catch in near right corner of end zone and was mobbed by entire offense #MiamiDolphins

    Armando Salguero
    ‎@ArmandoSalguero After TD catch DeVante Parker got up in Byron Maxwell’s face mask and started trash talking. Never seen that before.

    Hal Habib
    ‎@gunnerhal Maxwell just grinned at Parker. Classic.

  23. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 7, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    Phillips is going to make the team. Whether or not he falls to #3 is another issue. 🙂
    I get that too, i don’t think Phillips would get cut, im saying he would lose his place on the Depth chart or become a special packages guy if he didn’t get his conditioning right.

    Also to respond to Randy, Phillips definitely has a higher ceiling, but with his previous inability to stay on the field due to conditioning he has a lower floor as well. Im not prediciting Godchaux unseats Phillips, definitely not kicks him out, i am saying its within Godchaux’s ability level to do so, so Phillips is not not being challenged. Again i was more speaking to Godchauxs ability than Philips inability lol, dont see how that got mixed up.

  24. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    June 8, 2017 at 8:28 am


    I read Zierlein’s report on Godchaux, which admittedly isn’t a glowing report, and yet he predicted him to be drafted in RD 2 or 3. Strange, right?
    Not really strange, he gives pro’s and cons and we focus on the cons, look at his pro’s thats pretty glowing. Zerlin then balances out the pro’s and cons and come usp with 2nd round, im pretty much in the same boat, he’s 2nd round because the things he has a con’s are workable, they are things that he can overcome by putting in time in a strength and conditioning program so he can take on an anchored OL and shake him out of his anchor or even keep him from setting it. I really dont see anything damning in his evaluation of Godchaux.

    • D says:

      A lot of his pro qualities are things also things you cant necessarily teach, or that if you do teach it, he is at a rally deep level of understanding and refinement you don’t normally get that straight out of college, there is usually continued refinement necessary once they reach the pro’s. His motor is also pretty good, he doesnt take plays off he does weaken as he tires, but gain,

      Phillips was said to take plays off once he got tired, and there is a big difference from the perspective of a coach or scout between players who are one or the other. Phillips had 1st round talent but lost a round because he has lower round effort.

      Godchaux lost a good chunk of his evaluation due to off field concerns, specifically the concerns of domestic violence, which the dolphins in their background investigations found were not supported in the police investigation. He probably lost a little because of conditioning as well, but it was mostly that. I personally think we got a steal.

      • dbolt48 says:

        As I mentioned an LSU die hard thinks he’ll be a very good pro. Same guy calls out players from LSU that he doesn’t think will do well, so not a whole ton of hometown in that aspect.

  25. D says:

    Ive already covered that he is not a straight up nose to nose DT, he is a gap penetrating DT. He though, did as he was assigned, and thats a good quality, because as a person trying to be a NFL DT, he could have change what he did so he played to his strength, so yeah, need better core strength, needs conditioning, but he has all the foundation to be a beast if he gets those to be better.

    I completely disagree with your eval of him Randy, and despite the actuality of his draft position most everyone considered him 2nd round talent, so there also has to be reasons for that. I have stated why he wasnt, and with whats been going on in the NFL, that shit makes a big difference. Joe Mixon, almost all evaporators had him as potentially the best RB in this class, even with McCafferty and Fournette being such big names with so much hype around them, he goes 2nd, and probably could have gone later hadnt there been teams like Cincy who just dont care about the stigma of drafting players with rough pasts. Brantley nearly went undrafted because of it, and he was sure fire late first to 2nd round talent. So yeah there was a reason, but it wasnt because he wasnt talented.

  26. dbolt48 says:

    In regards to the 2 DTs we drafted I like both from what I’ve seen. The most important thing for me is they at least become 2 rotational pieces who can play in short spurts initially giving our starters more breathers. If they can hold their ground vs the run while they are in and provide some push on passing plays that would be ideal….once again in limited action.

    • D says:

      I think its also good for them to be able to push for more time and potentially a starter because you just never know when you have to become that guy, either if you cant get a guy re-signed or an injury happens, etc. Im not saying i think they replace Phillips, i dont think thats even the intention right now, but what i am saying is i believe at least Godchaux can push him, and that makes for a really nice next man up scenario and an ideal rotational backup solution.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    Omar Kelly‏Verified account @OmarKelly 53m53 minutes ago
    “I think I’m as good as I’ve been, and everyone will see that. Eyes will be opened,” Dolphins DT Lawrence Okoye on when pads come on.

  28. Randy says:

    As always, it’s cool to have differing opinions. I hope yours turns out to be the right one. Part of the fun of watching football for me is seeing how young guys develop. I’m just commenting on what I see now, and you may disagree. But, that doesn’t mean he can’t get better.
    Also, if you have some video to point me to that shows what you see, I’d love to see it. I watched just about everything I could find on the kid. I’m always open to changing my mind!

    • D says:

      Here is one, ill post some more. You can see him getting under the OL, driving them back both in pass rush and run defense. You can see where he doesn’t give up on plays and will one of the few DL’s down the field or staying with the play to the end, but you can also see some of the he’s tired so he doesnt have the same pop or speed on these plays. A lot of whay i saw those was live, so im having to go back and find examples, you dont watch SEC football, so im sure what you had to review was limited, and ill admit, Wisconsin game wasn’t his best, but Wisconsin always has a great OL and they dominated LSU’s entire DL and LB’s that game. He did of course play against plenty of other teams that were of quality and he did pretty well against them.

  29. Mike E. says:


    In some cases “evaporators” is about right.

    • D says:

      LOL, in a bunch of them its about right. Outside of a true scout, a person writing something to make others want to read it, have motivations outside of succinct evaluations that sometimes affect their evaluations. Its human instinct to kind of get behind certain player because you are alreay hearing some of your compatriots sing their priases, etc. Sometimes its in your motivations to set yourself aside from everyone else and deliberately go against the common statements about a persons skill set just so you dont loo like a copy cat or like you might be more in the know than them, so all of that makes evaluating and then getting clicks off what you say a bad combination for real scouting.

      Scouts on the other hand dont have those motivation, they have motivations for get this shit right so that i hit with the players that my team picks because that’s my evaluation. They are therefore the best to find out from, but unfortunately, they are also the people you will never hear from because those evaluations have to stay private.

      • Mike E. says:

        NFL.com does give a little scout synopsis, which I like. I think it’s very possible that it was one of our scouts who gave Zierlein that tidbit on Godchaux, it was listed as a Southeast Regional Scout for NFL team

      • Mike E. says:

        Sources Tell Us “I want to see him make more impact plays. He plays team football, but at some point he’s got to go make more plays that matter.” — Southeast regional scout for AFC team

    • Rockphin says:

      It is very nice to hear that Parking is getting BETTER!

      • Mike E. says:

        Rishard Matthews right on top of him. Ironic

      • D says:

        One of the best things said about Parker all the way through his college time and through the draft process was he had incredible catch radius, he could go up and get contested throws and his hands were amazing. Looks like that was something scouts got right.

  30. D says:

    Id love to see true scout notes sometimes. I have seen some of the ones my friend who covers the Senior Bowl and is there working with those guys while they eval players but of course its more just thoughts on some of the + and -‘s they have from that practice and not full evaluations, i would love to see a scouts notebook from say the full process of evaluating a player, so Harris, from the point at which they began their scouting all the way through to where they submitted to the FO. That would be a very neat exposure to a side of football i really like.

  31. D says:

    I think Mike for him to have more really stand out plays would be for him to increase his core strength so he could overwhelm an OL. When your technique is good and you gin the advantage over the OL, they can get the advantage back but they have to do it through brute strength or having good fallback technique, where they might give a little ground but can re-establish leverage, and/or res-set their anchor. I watched Steen do it a good bit last year, he has a really good counter when he initially doesn’t get a chance to anchor well.

    • D says:

      Oh i was trying to say also, if he combines strength to fight through their counters, and split doubleteams, etc. He will be a lot closer to a complete player.

  32. Tim Knight says:

    Matt Burke explains how he views strong and free safety as well as other areas of the defense.

  33. Rockphin says:

    Rashawn Scott is probably out until camp with a foot injury. Sucks for him. He actually made the 53 last year as a UDFA. The Dolphins have signed Mitch Mathews another UDFA from BYU to replace him until he can come back.

    • Mike E. says:

      Leonte Carroo probably just let out a sigh of relief

      • Rockphin says:

        Carroo isn’t taking anything for granted this year. He was upset with himself last year for not putting in the extra work he needed to in order to be the best he can. Last year he took is draft grade for granted and it bit him. He said that it won’t happen this year and he is working his ass off to make sure. Now that could be lip service, but I hope it is not.

    • Rockphin says:

      an on cue Tim posts the video. LOL

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL, it doesn’t sound like lip service. He seemed genuine and realized he’s not good enough to just rely on his physical ability at the next level.

      • D says:

        Yeah Tim but its all lip service unless he shows up on the field with actions to back the words. I agree he sounds genuine, but even genuine talk becomes cheap with out doing.

      • Tim Knight says:

        D, he said what the difference is in what he’s doing working with Stills, more film study etc. All he can do is be candid about it which he was and we’ll see if the work he’s putting in results in more production. He didn’t blow it off as a lack of opportunity while being cocky and playing victim. That would have been a bad sign. Some guys do take that road. That won’t fly here under Gase and Carroo knows it. At least he seems to get it. He seemed humble with his tail between his legs at the podium. Let’s hope he’s being truthful, he does have talent.

  34. son of a son of a shula says:

    I heard we’re going to hold joint practices with the Eagles.
    Something this team hadn’t done since Coach Shula was in charge.

    • Tim Knight says:

      No we’ve done it since him and even scrimmages in TC. Remember when Suh said we beat the shit out of the Panthers when Benjamin went down for the year for them as did Delmas for us. That was the season the Panthers went to the SB in 15/16.

      I also remember us doing this when Fiedler was QB.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Oh right I completely forgot. Yeah Carolina inferred we beat the shit out of them and then go to the Super Bowl while we took a shit

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yep pretty much. 😦

  35. son of a son of a shula says:

    The WR from BYU Mathews is 6’6

  36. Mike E. says:

    From Mathew’s Pro Day

    Wide receiver Mitch Mathews — 6-5 5/8, 222 — ran the 40 in 4.47 and 4.49 seconds. He had a 36-inch vertical and 10-foot-9 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.25 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.99 seconds. Mathews — who has 10 3/8-inch hands — performed 12 reps on the bench press. Mathews — who had a memorable Hail Mary catch in the season-opening win over Nebraska — really looked good catching the ball and running routes at BYU’s pro day. Mathews appears to be worthy of a late-round draft selection.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    I haven’t heard anything about 7th rd pick Isaiah Ford in OTAs. Is he not showing anything or does he have those weird college graduation restrictions?

  38. olddolphan says:

    HEY MIKE E.; Another really fine analysis of a Dolphin draft choice.
    GAME 5 of the Stanley Cup Finals begins in a little over half an hour. Obviously it’s a must win for the Penguins who, if they lose tonight, will have to win in Nashville in the next game to force a game seven. My head tells me that Pittsburgh wins tonight. But the entire NHL Playoffs have featured more than a few surprises, not the least of which was 8th-seeded Nashville eliminating first place Chicago in the opening round in FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES! ESPN’s Barry Melrose says the support Nashville has received from their home fans is “just mind-boggling!” He estimated over 50,000 Predator fans SAT OUTSIDE IN THE STREETS NEAR THE ICE ARENA just to watch game 5 in Nashville on the jumbotron!!
    The state of Tennessee has never won a pro sports championship in one of the big 4 sports. Could this be the year?

  39. naplesfan2010 says:

    I wish we could find some young UDFA DTs with stats like that new WR. Maybe we have them already, but the tape above of Davon is sketchy at best.

  40. jetsssuck says:

    Coach Gace had the team practice in the rain that caused flooding throughout davie. Sawgrass Mills mall 6th largest in US has been closed for 2 days now because of the flooding. I heard from a neighbor American Heritage HS football field is 4 ft under since the street is 4-5 ft above the playing field. School has been closed for 3 days.Neighbors pooled popped up from ground since the ground became so saturated Checked my mail for first time since the floods and I didn’t receive any mail for 3 days and yet the postal service says they deliver no matter what during bad weather. I guess I should be happy we got no bills in 3-4 days.

  41. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Nice job mike. I really think some of these late round picks could become more productive than the 1st rounders. Some of them fall because they are not ready day 1. I think Godchaux is one of those types of players.

  42. Tim Knight says:

    Godchaux looks a bit like Pouncey.

  43. Tim Knight says:

    Sad story. He was a WR I remember a lot of us discussed as a prospect years back. But he never really panned out. RIP

  44. stangerx says:

    Gase on Chip Kelly, who was at practice yesterday. Part of why the guys is a thinker. Always trying to get good ideas from people with new ones…..even if we might not run a Chip Kelly O next season.
    “I think when he came in the league, there were a lot of things I was interested in what they were doing and kind of hearing about. Things not just football-wise, but sports science stuff they did at Oregon that they brought to Philadelphia. I was really intrigued by it, and I was able to go to Oregon for a visit.”

    “we studied a lot of his stuff. Just being able to have some discussions over the last couple of years, and just figuring out ways to change tempos of the game and some of the ways to practice, to do things not only on the field but off the field, I’m always trying to ask questions to pick a guy’s mind that’s had success at both levels.”

  45. Tim Knight says:

    I’ve now seen Omar and James Walker say that our secondary looks good early on.

  46. Mike E. says:

    Jets cut David Harris. That’s cold man

    • Tim Knight says:

      They’re looking to trade or cut Eric Decker too. I have no idea what the Jets are doing. LOL

    • D says:

      I hate it for those older, aging vets who have given their best for teams, because the salary caps, etc just make it impossible to keep rewarding them as they should. Its kinda like if any of us were killing ourselves for our companies and one day they just came to you and said, yeah man i love how you work, i love what you bring to the table but im just going to have to have you either take a quarter of what you have been and still up your level of play, if im going to keep you here. Oh and seriously, htis is no fault of your own, infact its pretty much this job that has got you to the point where we are just thinking we might as well just bring in a new guy.

      My job, and the field i am in, software development is kinda of like that, its a young mans game but how deep you understand the system still affords you a “can afford to lose him” nod. Some artistry type fields (you an probably attest to this some Tim, aren’t you in graphic design/advertising?) are young men’s playgrounds, because those businesses like fresh idea, but again, there are nuances you learn in those fields that a learned man still holds considerable value. Football though, its brutal, i mean people almost stop even thinking about you once you roll over to thirty.

  47. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 8, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    D, he said what the difference is in what he’s doing working with Stills, more film study etc. All he can do is be candid about it which he was and we’ll see if the work he’s putting in results in more production. He didn’t blow it off as a lack of opportunity while being cocky and playing victim. That would have been a bad sign. Some guys do take that road. That won’t fly here under Gase and Carroo knows it. At least he seems to get it. He seemed humble with his tail between his legs at the podium. Let’s hope he’s being truthful, he does have talent.
    Tim im not questioning his sincerity, i heard his words i get the same evaluation you have regarding his genuine truthfulness. I am still saying even guys who really mean that still have to deliver. I can care about a customers needs, and i cant tell them i will meet your needs and i cant completely mean it, but if i still dont deliver i still have a unsatisfied customer. Im really not judging the guy, i have no place to do that.

  48. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:

    June 9, 2017 at 11:42 am

    I’ve now seen Omar and James Walker say that our secondary looks good early on.
    Then we’d better try to upgrade our secondary ASAP.

    • Tim Knight says:

      LOL, they touched on the young talent, being healthy and deeper.

      • mf13ss says:

        I would’ve expected Omar to say our secondary sucks because we didn’t sign Seanathan Smith. LOL

    • D says:

      Well technically it was really only one person saying good things, the other just copied the first. Those guys i think share a brain sometimes, which really makes you question, if the shit they say can come out as stupid as it does sometimes, how big are their brain’s individually….

  49. Ken says:

    What is up FUers? Been crazy busy but I am checking in

  50. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 8, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    I haven’t heard anything about 7th rd pick Isaiah Ford in OTAs. Is he not showing anything or does he have those weird college graduation restrictions?
    He’s been practicing, there just hasnt been anything of note on him i dont think. Drew Morgan has been stealing the show, showing up better than Caroo, Grant, and Ford. Dont know if that means he will get a sot yet, but early on he has had nothing but good things said about him. I think Those guys need to step it up, or one of them might be odd man out.

    • D says:

      I take that back, partially, i did heard something about him having a nice practice the other day. It was like a one sentence thing after two paragraphs about how impressive Morgan has been, and went something like “Oh, and Isaiah Ford had a nice pricestice as well” lol

  51. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 9, 2017 at 11:58 am

    LOL, they touched on the young talent, being healthy and deeper.
    Got a little worried, i thought you had just said they had been touching the young talent…..different read when it comes across that way.

  52. D says:

    Yeah Parker has been having a great OTA, im glad i was really excited when we landed him and im really hoping for his benefit and ours this is the year where we go…wow, totally worth it. I think Caroo is coming around too. Id hate being grant right now, because they also have Morgan doing punt/kickoff returns. Caroo im about 60% sure is safe, but again i think it really depends on how cleanly his OTA and TC goes. Dropped passes, or just completely blowing route or assignments might sink him. They are going to expect refinement and better understanding of the system at the very least this pre-season, being its year two for him.

  53. Ken says:

    Keep writing the Novellas D. Always a good read

  54. Ken says:

    I don’t see Grant having much of a future with us. He is an exciting but inconsistent punt returner who brings little else to the table

    • D says:

      He’s been dropping passes a bit when he has played at WR in OTA’s. They said he had some brilliant catches with extra yards after the catch but then would turn around and drop two right after.

      • stangerx says:

        We’ll see on him, but seems he is also an exciting guy to throw in there. Jets and moves like that you can’t train. Even if sure they are working real hard on his hands.

  55. stangerx says:

    Good to see the Hulk. Was sorta of hoping it would be Dr. Banner that showed up though. 🙂

    • Ken says:

      Hulk is just in a holding pattern waiting to see what this team brings us this year

      • stangerx says:

        lol…..sorry has been crazy busy for you, but heck….you could be Trump’s new private lawyer or Sean Spicer.

      • Ken says:

        That would be a client from hell I pity whoever represents him. Some clients are just not worth the fee

  56. Tim Knight says:

    Good to see you Ken!

    Now where is Piggy?

  57. Ken says:

    For Grant to see playing time at any other position who do you take off the field?

    • Tim Knight says:

      To give one of the others a breather. He’s not going to surpass the top 3.

      • Ken says:

        He is a gadget player at best. You put him on the field and everyone expects a gadget play. You don’t put him on the field to give one of the top 3 a rest. He is just not good enough to do that

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well Christensen said they’re going to give him a shot to be more than that so we’ll see.

  58. Ken says:

    Alright I have to get to court drive by is over. Peace

  59. herdfan says:

    I’d totally buy one of these devices for football games. Lol

  60. Tim Knight says:

    Mandatory Minicamp: June 13-15
    That’s when the pads go on.

  61. mf13ss says:

    Friday NFL Trivia: Who Am I?

    I was selected to my very first 1st-team All-Pro at the tender age of 39 years old, though I was selected to my first of several Pro-Bowl teams at 24 years old. I’ve never played for the Miami Dolphins, though I’ve gone through many a battle against Don Shula-coached teams over the years. I was born in Africa, and I never once played a single snap for the very team that drafted me. Who am I?

  62. D says:

    Ken says:
    June 9, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    He is a gadget player at best. You put him on the field and everyone expects a gadget play. You don’t put him on the field to give one of the top 3 a rest. He is just not good enough to do that
    I think he is also a distraction if used correctly. You have to hit on a few of those gadget plays early to make people wary that you may use him like that when he is out there, but then you could use him as a misdirection from the way the play is actually designed. Still he has to be viable for teams to pay attention to him but if you have to account for him, that’s one less double team they can put on someone else. Thats also kinda the reason that the success of Thomas could really open our playbook up. Too many threats on the field to adequately cover all of them.

    Thats said, Grant is not the only person that could be that guy, he just is one of those very explosive players who if you dont account for, its probably not just a 10-20 yard gain, its a 40+ yard TD.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You have to get him on the field a dozen or so times to set up a gadget play for him. Can’t just put him out there 3 or 4 times and try to get him the ball.

      • D says:

        MF, i honestly had to look it up but i was on the right track, i was thinking Morten Anderson, and i knew he was foreign born i just couldn’t remember where (its Denmark btw). Once i figured out it wasnt him, i knew it had to be Gary, but Tim had already figured it out by then.

  63. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 9, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Gary Anderson
    BOOM!!! You are EXACTLY correct, sir! Well done!

  64. Rockphin says:

    “I feel really good about our defense, because they do a lot of really good things and it makes it very difficult for our offense to consistently move the ball,” Adam Gase said Thursday.

    Well, let us hope that it’s not just because the Offense sucks!

  65. Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 9, 2017 at 11:54 am
    They’re looking to trade or cut Eric Decker too. I have no idea what the Jets are doing. LOL

    They are dropping all their “older” more expensive players and clearing cap space “for the future”

    Basically they are tanking the season for a chance at one of the top QB’s next draft. They are sucking for …….

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah it does seem that way. Hopefully they’ll fuck that up too. LOL

      • Rockphin says:

        LOL God damn it! we can’t do anything right! We tried to Tank the season and made the playoffs.

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL, or they win the last game of the year 5-3 by getting a safety knocking them out of the top 3 in the draft.

  66. Rockphin says:

    Breaking news…..the other news agency is reporting such & such….we cannot confirm the report.

  67. Rockphin says:

    The quote I read on Twitter (I forget from who) said the next pass Morgan drops in practice will be his first.

  68. Rockphin says:

    Phindog says:
    June 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm
    That’s Awesome !! Too bad the ones for the guys only hold a shot 😦

    Speak for yourself Doggy. I guess they call it a “Pink Pencil” for a reason.

  69. Rockphin says:

    From Barry Jackson at the Herald

    “Isaiah Ford, the Dolphins’ seventh-round pick, dropped a pass from Matt Moore during the OTA session open to reporters last week and hasn’t done anything to stand out in three sessions open to reporters. The next 18 practices (three next week and the first 15 of training camp) will be open to reporters.”

    • Tim Knight says:

      Drew Morgan might be the sleeper WR for us. He’s not fast 4.74 40 but he did have the best 60 yard shuttle for WRs. He runs really good routes and has excellent hands. He could be Landry’s backup as a slot guy. He also returns punts and is said to have some good moves despite his lack of speed. He’s considered to be a tough guy.

  70. Rockphin says:

    Trivia question:

    Name two of the three players who have worn #1 for the miami Dolphins.

  71. Rockphin says:

    Bonus question:

    How many numbers did Brandon Fields wear for the Dolphins and what were the numbers…….

    Anyone, Stanger, Anyone?

  72. D says:

    D says:
    June 9, 2017 at 4:18 pm

    MF, i honestly had to look it up but i was on the right track, i was thinking Morten Anderson, and i knew he was foreign born i just couldn’t remember where (its Denmark btw). Once i figured out it wasnt him, i knew it had to be Gary, but Tim had already figured it out by then.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Gary played for the Steelers from 82-94 so that matched up with the Shula battles. Morten was mostly NFC. But those were the two I went to first as well. I also thought maybe Ray Guy.

      • D says:

        Yeah i wasnt thinking about it much, and yeah we were always meeting the Steelers later in the year back then. Probably, outside of our AFC east rivals, the next biggest rivalry the Phins have.

      • D says:

        Poor Ray Guy…. glad it finally happened for him. He is a local (Hattiesburg) hero kinda guy, so its nice he finally got his due. That dude was a wicked punter, well before doing those kind of things in the punting game became a weapon for changing the outcome of a game.

  73. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 9, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    Drew Morgan might be the sleeper WR for us. He’s not fast 4.74 40 but he did have the best 60 yard shuttle for WRs. He runs really good routes and has excellent hands. He could be Landry’s backup as a slot guy. He also returns punts and is said to have some good moves despite his lack of speed. He’s considered to be a tough guy.
    He’s a poor mans Cooper Kupp, he has a lot of the gritty traits Kupp does same play with heart style, not afraid to get in there as a blocker, very team first kinda player. I had he and Trent Taylor, down as WR’s we might look at at later rounds last year, and was pretty shocked he went undrafted. Difference between Kupp, Taylor and Morgan isnt a bunch. Morgan had a 4.59 and a 4.64 for his pro-day times.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Even better then. I could totally see him backing up Landry’s role. Landry, Stills, Parker, Carroo, Morgan and Grant could be our 6.

  74. Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    June 9, 2017 at 4:15 pm
    Garo and Flipper

    Flipper isn’t a player! LOL

    Garo, Matt Turk, Tony Franklin

    • Rockphin says:

      Mike wins the “Close enough” prize. Any of the two series of books by Raymond E. Fiest that he hasn’t read yet. (I’ve got like 15 books for you here bro if you want them)

      • Mike E. says:

        LOL – I bought 8 of them not too long ago. I’m on the Shadow of a Dark Queen

  75. Tim Knight says:

    D, I always thought Steelers and Raiders outside of our division were the biggest rivals during Shula’s tenure.

  76. Tim Knight says:

    D, Ray Guy is still the best punter of all time. He was like an excellent golfer, could put the ball where he wanted it to go.

  77. stangerx says:

    Good to see this today……and yeah that is a Rock on Fire. 🙂

  78. Tim Knight says:

    What is the Pats strategy on offense? Have guys who get open and can catch the ball, mix in a solid running game and let the individual big plays happen. Don’t force anything. Brady is very good at being patient with this system. It’s a proven way of doing things.

    To me Ajayi, Landry and Thomas can make that approach happen in Miami. Can Tannehill take that next step too? When Stills or Parker are there for a big play take it.

    • stangerx says:

      Among other things, Pats like guys who can cut and get open over pure burners. We have that kinda of guy in Landry, but then they have Brady too to hit that open window before it closes. We definitely have the running game and wait for big play part already…..and seems we are moving towards the mix and match parts to who we are playing as well.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I started my post off saying that. LOL

      • stangerx says:

        Tim — sometimes I am so much in agreement with one of your points that I find myself repeating them just to make sure everyone gets how great it was and then head off from there. Not sure why you find that funny though. It is the highest compliment I can give.

  79. D says:

    So far i havent heard much about Owusu from OTA’s, couple mentions here or there but he was and Stringfellow were both guys i really liked hearing we picked up as UDFA’s. Stringfellow has had a couple good mentions too,

    Prior to OTA’s i felt pretty good about Owusu making the team, but right now i think if i had to pick our 5 WR’s id probably have:


    Im also not sure who will wind up being seen as the 4th vs the 5th in that list.

    If we keep a 6th, then i think it comes down to these guys, and like i said i think Grant has the upper hand in being that guy, but its more 60/40 than really certain.


    Stringfellow fills the biggest void in or WR packages though, because he is a really good third down and red zone WR and he is a bigger bodied WR which we are not loaded down with those guys.

    Ford is more like the WR’s we have on our roster, making him both intriging as a next man up, yet not as intriguing because he doesn’t give us anything towards variety when it comes to what kind of packages he could be included in. I think Ford could edge them out because as an overall receiver, he’s probably better of those three, i am discouraged though that i only heard a few brief and in passing comments about him in OTA’s.

    Grant simply has to show he is past some of his rookie mistakes, and i think he is in. The coaches seem to like him, he has a pretty infections personality, but its going to come down to those fumbles, and dropping passes. He cant afford many of those.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We kept 6 last year and as a predominantly 3 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB offense, I see us keeping 6 again.

  80. mf13ss says:

    D says:
    June 9, 2017 at 4:34 pm
    Poor Ray Guy…. glad it finally happened for him.
    I’m not sure what ya mean by “glad it finally happened to him” with your above context, but the ‘Ray Guy Award’ has been handed out by the NCAA every year for quite some time to the best punter.

    I can tell you this… Ray Guy vs Reggie Roby was always an incredible thing to witness, both statistically and when against one another in-game. I’ve ALWAYS appreciated Ray Guy.

    • D says:

      Glad he finally got into the Hall.

    • D says:

      Roby’s hang time was incredible but he didn’t have the ball placement skills of Guy.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Roby’s hang time and Guy’s directional accuracy. Guy was a master.

    • D says:

      Having an award named after you for college sports is an honor no doubt, but finally getting your place in the hall of fame with other players who were the best at their positions was something that at one time didnt look like it was going to happen for Guy. It took a lot of petitions and him being brought in by the senior council for him to actually make it. Big travesty imo, same with Roby, but again, Guy doesnt make it in, then you cant really consider other punters, so it was a big deal for a lot of reasons finally getting hm in there.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Why can’t a punter be in the HOF? It’s a football position. Every team has one. It’s that sportswriter arrogance, well he’s just a punter. Yeah a position that can fuck the entire game up for you or win it. Team game, punter is part of it. 🙂

  81. Ken says:

    LMAO at Rock

  82. naplesfan2010 says:

    ok so here’s one for us
    TJ Barnes DT from Ga Tech 6’7 364
    just got released by the Chiefs.
    There’s a young run-stuffer for us to try out.
    He is officially one of the largest players in the NFL.
    He has played for four teams in four years in the NFL, 3 yrs with the Jets.

  83. naplesfan2010 says:

    Cordrea Tankersley intercepted another pass in OTAs, his second of Spring Practice.

  84. Rockphin says:

    Stanger, Fields wore #4 like Roby in 2007 before changing to #2 in 2008

  85. Mike E. says:

    So stoked that my son got his first “real” job after graduating college. I’m so excited for him, it’s exactly the type of work he wanted. I think it’s a great opportunity for him.

    D – I believe he’s entering the same field you work in.

    • stangerx says:

      Awesome Mike E — and in the field he wants is a whole lot more important than whatever the money is. Is the job near where you guys live?

      • Mike E. says:

        In Manhattan, right near the Empire State Building

      • stangerx says:

        Cool — sounds like he has some exciting times ahead. Nothing like being young and in NYC. Also guessing there are some small and shared apartments in his future. One of my ex-girlfriends slept on a futon in what became the living room during the day……but at least a shower curtain thing was there at night.

      • Mike E. says:

        LOL – No doubt! He already has grand plans of living in Hoboken, although I don’t think he quite understands that his entire salary will be dedicated to paying the rent.

      • stangerx says:

        My best advice to him is make good friends with the dudes who live where the party ends up each night…..but live with guys more worried about going to work the next day. That will tend to get the rent and electric bill paid on time as well.

      • Mike E. says:

        That’s some sound advice right there . . .

  86. mf13ss says:

    ABC News @ABC

    NEW: Adam West, famous for playing Batman on 1960s television show, passes away after battle with leukemia, his family says.

  87. BailBondMike says:

    Dang, no more Mayor Adam West on Family Guy either. RIP

  88. Ken says:

    RIP Batman

  89. Tim Knight says:

    RIP Adam West

  90. D says:

    Mike you could convince him to be a granny chaser, don’t​ a lot of older people in Hoboken have rent controlled apartments, and aren’t they able to will those to others? Couple years of torture might wind up paying a lifetime of dividends​ lol

  91. D says:

    It’s already been a somewhat busy year for celeb deaths, lots to younger ones and sadly lots to suicide

  92. Tim Knight says:

    It’s all good Stanger. 🙂

  93. pheloniusphish says:


  94. pheloniusphish says:


  95. Tim Knight says:

    What’s up Phish?

  96. pheloniusphish says:

    Nada. Just sitting at the smoker, smoking some shrimp. Figured I would see what’s shakin’.

    • stangerx says:

      Sounds like you and Chef Warren have a talk about smokers coming up at the Fest. He just explained to me how he turned from a fired one to an electric one that you throw a few chips into that can just walk away till he gets back from work. Also some kinda trade offs involved that were way above my head but guessing not yours.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I look forward to exchanging notes with him.

        I still like my fired one. More work and not as consistent as an electric, but I am a glutton for punishment. I would like to build a no shit smokehouse​some day. I still need to finish my curing box, too. Have all the pieces but haven’t put it together. Come hunting season I’m going to want to cure some game pastrami and sausage.

    • Tim Knight says:


  97. Mike E. says:

    Smoked shrimp, eh?

  98. pheloniusphish says:

    Yep…and I just overcooked them. Still tasty, but hard to peel. Oh well, it was an experimental batch so now I know.

  99. Tim Knight says:

    Cool article about the potential of our top 3 WRs. These 3 along with Ajayi and Thomas could be the makings of a juggernaut offense. 🙂

    • jetsssuck says:

      let’s hope J.Landry never ever has to play cornerback for us. He was at charity function with a optimist 12-13 yr olds and he was burned badly by a wr faking a down and out and up and the kid beat him by 5-7 yards. It showed his expression and it looked liked he was really embarrassed. It’s was on tv cbs4 local station sports yesterday.

  100. mf13ss says:

    GDP and Son,

    This one’s for y’all! I think you’ll dig it!

    • mf13ss says:

      If you’d like to hear where A. Doulos and I came from (Mr. Ill and I were both born in Western Philly)… pretty dark music, yet TIGHT.

  101. Tim Knight says:

    Summertime, and the livin’ is easy…

      • Tim Knight says:

        There’s another one. I posted that because after some really gloomy weather in May into early June it finally broke into some beautiful 70-80 degree days and now we’re in the low 90s with a beautiful breeze. 🙂

      • stangerx says:

        Well you have hotter weather than we do down here……and sort of glad we are just in the 80’s. Liked that vid though. All the guys in suits and girls dancing together…..different times. And one real hot blond in the days before gyms.

  102. The Flying Pig says:


    Are you going to jersey shore again this summer ?

    • Tim Knight says:

      No for the most part. Our house is gone. It’s not the same anymore. Next year we will regroup, but right now none of us are feeling it. 😦

  103. mf13ss says:

    Did anybody see Aaron Judge’s 496-foot HR today? DAMN!!!!!!!!!! Talk about a ‘MOON SHOT’!!! I haven’t seen a ball hit like that since Canseco/McGwire (*BASH BROTHERS*)!!!

    Here are some of the longest HRs ever captured on camera in MLB history…

    MLB: 500 Foot Shots

  104. D says:

    So i watch “Notorious” over the weekend and i think once before that, but i was in the mood driving in for some B.I.G so oi loaded in the soundtrack and i heard a line from his rap “Time to get paid, blow up like the World Trade” and i was like wtf, B.I.G died in like 97, 9/11 didnt happen until 2001. Kinda freaked me out. Apparently they also sensor out this line from radio play making it the only case of retroactive censorship ever. Again, i know thats probably out of the context of what B.I.G’s lyrics meant, but still its kind of spooky.

  105. D says:

    While looking things up about that line, i found that Busta Ryhmes also had a predictive lyric, his might be even spookier.

    “None of you n—-s really wanna war / The type to fly a plane into your building in the name of Allah.”

    That was release in 98

  106. naplesfan2010 says:

    So do we carry only 3 TEs this year on the 53? It’s ok by me. Gray proved he can be trusted and he can sub for either the blocking or receiving TE. Put the 2 kids on the PS.

    Let’s say Gray will be better than last year, Sims replaced by Fasano is a wash, Thomas is a huge upgrade over Cameron if he plays the whole year, just because Cameron didn’t.

    Sooo … TE 2017 > 2016. And this is a very important position for the 3 weak spots on offense: 3rd down conversions, passing (esp. Red Zone) TDs, and overall total points.

  107. Tim Knight says:

    D, the WTC had a bombing in 1993.

    • D says:

      Yeah, that seems to maybe be the inspirtation for what BIG was talking about, i forgot about that. Still the lyrics by Busta… i just dunno i can see how conspiracy theorist can jump on things like that and really run with them, im not a believe in all of that but its spooky regardless.

  108. wyoming85 says:

  109. D says:

    Mike what i like about the article is that his success or failures wont be from lack of trying. I harp on this a lot with my team at work, dont let you be what makes you fail. Dont let lack of effort be why you didn’t reach your goal, and don’t tell yourself you shouldn’t do something in effort to be the best unless someone comes along and give you better method for reaching the same goal. Finally, no is the worst thing that you can be told, and even that isnt final, it may just mean you have to go back, work harder and approach that situation from both a different angle and with more ammunition to make the case for what you are asking for.

    Looks to me Harris at least get a good portion of things like that and those guys usually make it, combine that with his athletic gifts and its hard to even judge what kind of ceiling this kid has, because he is still moving it at the moment.

    • Mike E. says:

      Absolutely. Desire is a huge part of success. The best really want to do as best as they can. They hunger for it.

  110. Tim Knight says:

    When we drafted Harris I felt like that was the type of player the Steelers would draft in the later 1st rd as a playoff team. No reaching or trading up, just let the BPA fall to you. Maybe our fortunes really are changing. 🙂

  111. D says:

    Man the Jets are racking up the publicity this off-seasons arent they. Starts out with cutting all yourplayers in what seems to be an obvious move to tank the season, and now you got a guy who just beat the crap out of a guy for spilling champagne on him, busted the guy up so bad he is having to have numerous plates put into his face to re-construct the damages.

  112. Mike E. says:


    Definitely a Steelers or Ravens type of player, but he’s ours!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yep! 🙂

    • D says:

      He seems like an old school Dolphins player to me. Back when we had the Killer B defense, or the no name defense, these were guys who dominated through high levels of effort, and not a lot of stature that they were given, even though they did eventually earn a lot.

      • D says:

        Our defense was never known for the players on it, its was known for how those players played outside their worth on paper. Harris seems a lot like one of those guys, i dont think he will get anything given to him, but hopefully in the end we will have him on that top players all time list. He seems like he is off to the right start for that.

  113. The Flying Pig says:

    If you think you are having a bad day, think about this guy

  114. Tim Knight says:

    I’m a bit late on this, but for those of you who remember, this would have been Sam’s 18th birthday today. Happy Birthday Sam!!!! Fly buddy!!!

  115. Mike E. says:

    Happy Birthday Sam! Fly high!

  116. Mike E. says:

    Laremy Tunsil will miss minicamp with a leg muscle injury. He’ll be fine, no cause for alarm

  117. D says:

    Happy Birthday Sam!

  118. D says:

    That dude from piggies post was literally full of shit, and that doctor was holding on to a lot of shit from his past.

  119. Mike E. says:

    Speaking of skeletons in their closet, where the hell is FFR?

    • D says:

      FFR doesn’t just have a closet for his skeletons, he up-sized to a walk in changing room to accommodate all of them..

  120. Tim Knight says:

    Charles Harris was once again impressive today. Really liking what I’m hearing about him.

    • stangerx says:

      Dude has some moves and a quick burst at least. Really looking forward to see what happens with him and Wake on each side on 3rd and 5.

      • Tim Knight says:

        His all business attitude and work ethic wanting to be great is also very impressive.

        But yes, can’t wait to see him in games opposite Wake. I could also see us using him like we did with an OLB standing up on the weak side in a 5-2 or 4-2 nickel.

    • D says:

      Not trying to rain on the parade, but DE’s generally do look pretty good in shorts and shirts. Its nice to see he is putting forth the effort though, and im sure when the pads come on, since his game is based around speed he will still be showing out, but it will be more fair once Tunsil is able to hit back.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m going by what everyone is saying about him – reporters, coaches and teammates. He’s impressing everyone. But yes what he does in games will be the real evaluation.

      • stangerx says:

        Some DE’s look better in shorts than others though….all about styling it.

  121. stangerx says:

    Guess not a surprise at all, but Beasley confirms.

    “It’s looking all but certain now that center Mike Pouncey and linebacker Koa Misi won’t practice until training camp.”

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah and Pouncey’s practice time will be limited even then. Gase made it pretty clear months ago that not only will Pouncey have a limited workload in practice, but also said he doesn’t need a lot of reps to get ready.

      Not sure where they stand with Misi in that regard, but he’s also a vet that seems to know what he’s suppose to do when it’s time to play.

      • D says:

        I dont think it will take Misi much time to get ready either. They did change DC’s but the scheme is still very close to the same as under VJ, so i doubt it would be a lot of prep needed to get Misi back to where he needs to be. I also think its just as likely that another player would beat Misi out of a starting position in TC even if he was 100% healthy, so i think what we are depending on is Misi being on the team to be a strong backup/rotational option, maybe even a package player that brings vet leadership to the team, he doesnt have to “ready to roll” if used in that capacity,

      • Tim Knight says:

        That might be the role for Misi now.

  122. D says:

    Owusu apparently still hasnt joined the team because Stanfords’ quarters system. So i guess thats why i haven’t heard anything about him recently. Thats gotta suck for UDFA’s missing realy really valuable time.

  123. getterdone says:

    Happy Birthday Sam Jackenthal….keep on soaring high!

  124. Rockphin says:

    Stanger, I’m sorry to do this after confirming already, but I am not going to make the Fest this year. I have been trying to schedule a vacation with my brother for a while now and we have picked October 21st through the 28th 4 Hour all-inclusive trip to Mexico. The 22nd is his birthday and it was the only week he could get off of work to take vacation. I’m going to miss you guys this year

  125. stangerx says:

    Not sure if Albert is saying he enjoyed his time with us or not. Pretty clear from other comments he wanted to be an FA though.

    “My body is pretty beat up after the last three years being in Miami — mentally, spiritually and physically. The last three years took a toll on me. I found myself as a man, a man of the Lord”.


  126. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I hear a lot of good things about drew morgan. Carroo and Grant need to bring their A game to not get replaced by morgan this TC.

  127. herdfan says:

    Rockphin says:
    June 14, 2017 at 6:12 am (Edit)
    Stanger, I’m sorry to do this after confirming already, but I am not going to make the Fest this year. I have been trying to schedule a vacation with my brother for a while now and we have picked October 21st through the 28th 4 Hour all-inclusive trip to Mexico. The 22nd is his birthday and it was the only week he could get off of work to take vacation. I’m going to miss you guys this year

    4 whole hours? You guys really know how to party.

    • stangerx says:

      LOL herd — you and Rock are such buds. Worst thing is the guarantee that will not see the face to face with him at the Fest……still hoping to see just yours though.

    • Mike E. says:

      LOL – Might be an epic 4 hours though

  128. Tim Knight says:

    Sounds like we’re working Aikens at corner, not safety.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 22m22 minutes ago
      Walt Aikens says he’s been playing all cornerback but is responsible for knowing safety too.

    • stangerx says:

      It is early yet and nothing wrong with cross training. Same time for whatever reason…..they signed safeties and played them over him. Maybe they are trying to figure if they have something other than a ST ace.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He played both in college and he started as a corner for us before being moved to safety. Looks like the coaches view his as depth on game day because he’s a core STs guy. So whatever position they need him at he’ll play.

      • stangerx says:

        Yep — maybe they figure Michael Thomas at safety and Aikens at CB is the smart way to go with the two DBs on STs. Not like we don’t have a lot of DBs looking to be in front of them in the line when it comes to passing downs.

  129. Tim Knight says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 36m36 minutes ago
    Anthony Steen says he had ankle injury and then strained rotator cuff that caused him to lose his strength.

  130. Rockphin says:

    4 whole hours? You guys really know how to party.

    LOL, speech recognition! FOR OUR not FOUR HOUR.

  131. D says:

    After reading those snippets from the ESPN article, im not 100% sure how Albert meant it, my guess is there is context there that might be contained if you listened to the whole presser. Still you could say that his time in Miami was hard on him, hard on everyone who was on the team during those times. 3 OC’s, 3 DC’s 2 HC’s, lots of bad press surrounding the status of the OL, never having an OG (until last year) that he could expect support from, or one that he didnt have to constantly lend support to. That also could have been a lot of what opened him up or some of those injuries. Never being able to make it through an full year without injury had to be frustrating, and having a lot of pressure put on him because of that. Our team atmosphere was also a really toxic environment most of the time he was there, so its possible he did mean it just like it was stated and if he did, there is strong support for him being right.

    Also our fucking sports writers and the stupid shit they kept asking him, i watched a few of his interviews and you could see the disgust he had when all they had to ask him wasn’t about him (outside of questions about his heath and if he was considering retirement) the questions were always about Thomas or Turner or Tunsil, etc. Im pretty sure he just got fed up with a lot of things hovering around the Dolphins, including those biting flies called our reporters. I really feel we have some of the most football-tarded people covering our team that i have ever seen with other teams. NO is my “market area” team and their reporters arent dumbasses like ours are.

    • D says:

      I do think that with some of the latter comments he made, part of his motivations to say that were to make him not look as bad for holding out. His holding out was absolutely to make sure he could get more money if at all possible by using free agent contracts as a way to show what he might be able to demand if he held out and got cut, in order to leverage the Jags to re-do his contract and pay him more. That didnt work out for him, so not to be seen as a totally greedy fucker, he played the Miami took a lot out of me” card so that he could save some face. Like i said though, im sure being here did take something out of him, but as a pro that decision was a business one.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The reporters who cover the Dolphins tend to hone in on the negative and even made fun of the team at times. That seems to be changing though because the culture of the team is changing.

      • D says:

        Kinda, they still try to bring it down, its just not as effective as it has been in the past.

  132. D says:

    Actually Rock i kinda thought she was right, i mean if you can get in your partying in 4 hours, enough to justify a trip to Mexico, then im thinking damn these guys really must know how to party if they are efficient enough to squeeze that much fun into such a small time frame.

  133. D says:

    Its likely that they feel like Aikens time being a S previously means he has more to learn at CB, and that’s why he has been playing there predominately this off season. Maybe its more the fact they feel like there is not much left for him to learn at S. Maybe is also the statement that Gase made about never having enough CB’s, so they feel they have DB’s more so that S or CB’s when it comes to the backup players. Either way, what times they are spending right now with players playing wherever they are, doesn’t mean anything to what they see them as, as much as i think it speaks to what they are curious they might be able to also see them as.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think it has a lot to do with what you said about Gase saying can’t have enough corners. Our secondary was riddled with injuries last year. If you suffer a few injuries in a game you need guys to be able to step in and if guys are only a corner or safety that may not be the option you need.

  134. jetsssuck says:

    D says:
    June 14, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    Actually Rock i kinda thought she was right, i mean if you can get in your partying in 4 hours, enough to justify a trip to Mexico, then im thinking damn these guys really must know how to party if they are efficient enough to squeeze that much fun into such a small time frame.
    Reminds me of Las Vegas where you can get IV’s after drinking all night and 3 hrs later you can be straight as arrow. I guess when people say life is short, Make every minute count. Mexico is famous for the access to drugs when taking a weekend vacation and now they are into the opium farming. Thank you, Obama for making mary-jane almost legal in all states and forcing these other countries to make better drugs for us.

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