Dolphins bolster QB position


With Ryan Tannehill very likely out for the season, the Miami Dolphins acted quickly to make sure they were competitive in 2017.  Some of the names on the list of candidates were of horror movie stuff.  Kyle Orton?  Tim Tebow?  I’m not going to hide my preference, we all know I favored Kaepernick, based only on a pure talent standpoint, and IMO, his potential in Adam Gase’s offense.  I do however, completely understand, and endorse the choice of Jay Cutler.  Gase and Cutler have a synergy.  They can sound off to each other, listen to each other, take criticism from one another, and do it in a manner where both still like and respect one another.  That, in and of itself is worth a lot.

As it has been well documented and discussed over and over, Jay Cutler had his best season with Adam Gase, and there’s reason to believe with the talent we have in our offense here in Miami, that Cutler could easily surpass the numbers he put up in Chicago in 2015.  Jarvis Landry, Devante Parker, Kenny Stills, Jay Ajayi, Julius Thomas, Leonte Carroo, Kenyan Drake, Cutler has plenty of nice weapons to exceed what he did in 2015.


I guess the big question is, does Jay Cutler start?  I think that’s the plan, unless there are any setbacks for Jay Cutler.  I like Matt Moore, and he’s definitely a capable QB.  On the other hand, he’s a BACKUP QB, not a starter.  He’s excellent at spending time on the sidelines, and then answering the call to come in and get the job done.  Could Jay Cutler do that if he spent weeks on the sidelines, and Moore was injured, and be expected to step in and get the job done immediately?  I’m not so sure about that.  It takes a certain mindset to work that way, much like a relief pitcher in baseball.  Good relievers are worth their weight in gold in MLB, and good backup QB’s are much the same.  Moore has shown, and possibly even preferred to be the backup.  He had opportunities to go elsewhere to compete for a starting job, but there was a certain comfort staying here in Miami as the backup.  No shame in that, he’s one of the best backup QB’s in the NFL, whereas as a starter, he would be towards the bottom of the pack.


So what of Ryan Tannehill?  I think it’s clear as day that whether Ryan Tannehill gets the surgery now, or 6-8 weeks from now, he’s having surgery and is not really in consideration as our QB for this season.  In other words, he’s done for the season, it’s just a matter of when he has the surgery.  It’s a shame, because many of us felt this was the year Ryan would reach great heights, and realize his potential, but now it’s all on hold for 2018.  None of this is official of course, just official in MY mind.  Get the surgery, come back fully healthy with a stable knee, and kick ass in 2018.  Don’t linger too long wasting time, get it done, and make it happen next season.  Unfortunately for Ryan Tannehill, his first OUT in his contract comes up in 2018, meaning if the Dolphins terminate his contract, of the $17.5M of his contract, only $4.6M is dead money.  If you’re rooting for Ryan (Like I am), also know that number drops even further down in 2019 to a $2.3M dead cap hit, meaning if the Dolphins want to give Tannehill 1 more year to figure out if he could reach a higher level of playing, they can do that.  A great year by Jay Cutler could certainly complicate that picture, but I’ll take the complications!

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723 Responses to Dolphins bolster QB position

  1. ocalarob says:

    Trade Caroo for a LBer, There must be a team LBer heavy as we are WR heavy, trading will avoid having to pick up one on the waiver that a lot of other teams past on.

  2. mf13ss says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    August 14, 2017 at 7:45 pm
    A little white stuff in those blood lines lol
    A little blood stuff in those white lines, too! 😀

  3. olddolphan says:

    HEY MF-13: Speaking of “Can’t believe the baseball stuff I remember,” try this one on for size:
    WHO was in the on deck circle when Henry Aaron hit his famous 715th home run, breaking Babe Ruth’s record? If you answered “Dusty Baker,” I believe you are RIGHT!!

    • mf13ss says:

      Ah, man… that’s above my ‘baseball pay grade’, sir! I couldn’t have guessed that in a million years, seriously. Nice fact! I’ve always appreciated Dusty Baker… both the player and manager.

  4. Mike E. says:

    Rock – You’re absolutely right bud, my apologies. Gilly revealed that last night while she was reading the scrolls at the Citadel.

  5. olddolphan says:

    Y’all have a great evening and a better tomorrow. Gotta take care of some family matters right away.–Hope to talk to you tomorrow.

  6. mf13ss says:

    Pro Football Focus‏Verified account @PFF 37s37 seconds ago
    Jarvis Landry is only getting better

  7. wyoming85 says:

  8. naplesfan2010 says:

    OD and MF
    I’m pretty sure I was at that game where Hank Aaron hit that homer. He was my favorite player. I followed him from Boston to Milwaukee to Atlanta. I was at the very first Braves game ever in Atlanta.

    • mf13ss says:

      Bro, that’s awesome! In terms of being a baseball fan, I’ve been a ‘flip-flopper’ over the years due to massive FA. I grew up watching the Braves on TBS… the Dale Murphy days. I became a full-fledged Braves fan in the early 90s… Dave Justice, Ron Gant, Terry Pendleton, Mark Lemke, Fred McGriff, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz, etc…

      GRAND teams!!!

  9. naplesfan2010 says:

    Chargers ratings from PFF
    Edge Chris McCain, 83.2 overall grade

    DI Tenny Palepoi, 80.2 overall grade

    S Desmond King, 77.7 overall grade

    CB Randall Evans, 76.9 overall grade

    S Tre Boston, 76.6 overall grade


    Edge Chris McCain, 83.2 overall grade
    Not much went right for the Chargers’ defense, and McCain didn’t play all that well against the run, but he was easily the most productive pass rusher in the game for either team. McCain finished the night one sack, two hits, and three hurries on 20 snaps rushing the quarterback.

  10. Mike E. says:

    I remember watching the game when Hammering Hank hit #715 off Al Downing. I was in my friend Mitch Gold’s house, his whole family and a couple of friends huddled around the TV.

  11. Mike E. says:

    Jay Ajayi OUT of concussion protocol, Kenyan Drake IN

  12. pheloniusphish says:

    America wasn’t built on diversity. America was built on absorbing diversity. That whole melting pot thing. The Antifa and BLM are no less hate groups than the KKK and their ilk. If you support any of them, in anything they do, you are a fucking idiot and a waste of carbon.

    • steveccnv says:

      Thats basically what I’ve been saying, say no to all of them, yet some, like the media and others want to make this issue from the past weekend partisan. They’ll go after the right wing racists, but have no problem with the left wing racists.

    • steveccnv says:

      They’ll also tell you America was built of immigrants, but what they wont mention is they were hard working legal immigrants and not illegal entitlement immigrants.

  13. ocalarob says:

    drake concussed

  14. BoulderPhinfan says:

    And the hits keep coming ouch!

    Omar Kelly‏Verified account @OmarKelly 2m2 minutes ago
    Tony Lippett tore his Achilles’ tendon yesterday and is headed to IR.

  15. Mike E. says:

    Every team has injuries, but ours are really mounting. All I can say is it’s early, and we can still get help.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      It’s gonna be one of those seasons with a hard schedule and injuries. Lets hope we can avoid picking top 10 next year. I was looking forward to this year too.

      • Mike E. says:

        Hey now! We took care of the QB position, we have very good depth at CB. LB concerns me some, but we’ll probably sign another vet for depth. It’s not so bleak, but we have certainly had our share of setbacks.

  16. ocalarob says:

    i hope tankersly can compete

  17. ocalarob says:

    i think we will see cutler thursday

  18. Mike E. says:


    I think Verner will be the slot CB, but the other guys are need to step on the outside, and in dime packages.

  19. pheloniusphish says:

    Bummer about Lippett. He was one of my favorites. Overall I think we are still good at CB.

  20. BoulderPhinfan says:

    it seems like they want mccain in cb and verner outside specially now that lippett is out. Thomas is also taking snaps at nickle.

  21. steveccnv says:

    What are they doing g in practice? Enough already

  22. Mike E. says:

    Depth charts are screwy at this time. I’m pretty sure All-Terrrain will be in the slot with a combo of Maxwell, Howard, Tankersley, Aikens , Lucas and Pitts on the outside

  23. stangerx says:

    I didn’t know that Don Trump at one point made a run at our Great Don. Interesting quote from Robbie at the time after it was all over:

    “This confirms my impression that Donald Trump has been engaged more in ballyhoo for his grand entrance to the U.S. Football League than in a serious effort to build his franchise competitively by sound, professional management. Headlines in the sports pages and network television can be mighty heady to Fifth Avenue tycoons.”

  24. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m probably more upset about Lippett than McMillan


    • Mike E. says:

      It’s frustrating and disheartening

      • The Flying Pig says:


        Teams have recovered form preseason injuries before

        I think the SB Panthers a few years ago had quite a few

        The thing about preseason injuries is you have time to adjust

        I just hope it’s not a ’17 theme
        This might be the year of the band aid for us😤🚑

      • steveccnv says:

        I thought last year was the band aid year. I think it’s every year.

  25. stangerx says:

    ESPN’s current projected overall FF pick number for a standard league (so no D involved)… one else even comes close to not being on the waiver wire post-draft. Parker could be a steal as 3rd or 4th wideout.

    16. Jay Ajayi, Mia RB
    37. Jarvis Landry, Mia WR
    106. DeVante Parker, Mia WR
    149. Kenny Stills, Mia WR
    205. Julius Thomas, Mia TE

  26. Mike E. says:

    Ajayi pre-concussion had to be a top 5 back

  27. Mike E. says:


    I was wondering where Julius Thomas was ranked at TE. He’s probably not ranked very high.

    • stangerx says:

      18th…..but keep in mind that it is just about FF rather than the player. He’s coming off of two bad fantasy years and competing with a stud RB and 3 real nice WRs for balls.

      • Mike E. says:

        Oh, I get it’s just FF, but I expected him to be ranked low. When you disappear for a couple of years, the FF experts don’t look kindly on that.

  28. Ken says:

    Stop pre season practice I am sick of all these injuries

  29. Ken says:

    Lippett was going to be my candidate for breakout player of the year. Now he is just broken

  30. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Piggy – We seem to be having a BPOW every week right about now.

  31. Tim Knight says:

    That really sucks about Lippett. Feel bad for him. But guys have to practice. There is no way around it.

  32. Mike E. says:

    Larsen, McMillan, Tannehill and Lippett. Larsen is on the returnable I/R though

  33. son of a son of a shula says:

    Rush doing a live read for Lifelock is better radio than anything Ryan Russillo does. If ESPN got rid of anyone it should be him. He’s unlistenable.
    Mike and Mike is changing at the end of the year, Greeny is leaving and Trey Wingo and Golic Jr are coming in with Golic Se.

  34. ElephantRider says:


    Bubble wrap the whole team!

  35. Rockphin says:

    Fuck! Lippet now? SMH I can’t believe this shit

  36. mf13ss says:

    Yeah, the Lippett injury really SUCKS: we’re going to miss his team-leading 4 INTs of last year. We must not lose ANYMORE key players, dammit!!! 😡

  37. son of a son of a shula says:

    Limpet’s foot just turned into a fin

  38. mf13ss says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    August 15, 2017 at 5:29 pm
    Rush doing a live read for Lifelock is better radio than anything Ryan Russillo does. If ESPN got rid of anyone it should be him. He’s unlistenable.
    Mike and Mike is changing at the end of the year, Greeny is leaving and Trey Wingo and Golic Jr are coming in with Golic Se.
    100% agreed… as does Mr. Snerdley. ESPN radio has become a joke, IMO.

    • olddolphan says:

      MF-13 and everyone else: Me and Mrs. OD will be travelling for a few days, combining work and visiting family We should return early next week. Y’all keep our boys HEALTHY as best you can.

  39. wyoming85 says:

    Funny but not!

    Big Mike 89‏ @MiaFins1 11h11 hours ago
    I’m afraid to wear my Dolphins jersey this year cause I might tear my ACL

  40. wyoming85 says:

  41. ElephantRider says:

    For some reason I can’t get the image of Belicheat as the Sith lord out of my head. I think it sheds light on what’s happening with all these year ending injuries….

  42. Brian in NY says:

    Did anyone tear a calf muscle getting out of their car in the parking lot today?

  43. steveccnv says:

    Walker has a new article out, our depth is being tested, and mentions Hull, Asiata and Steen, then says these aren’t considered upgrades. So 2nd stringers taking over for 1st stringers isn’t an upgrade 👹

  44. pheloniusphish says:

    So I was just looking at my calendar. Guess which home game is the only one I can’t be at?

  45. Mike E. says:


  46. mf13ss says:

    We’re paying nearly $27M this year against the cap to players on I/R. That’s almost 16% of our cap space.

    To put it another way, don’t ya wish we were $27M under the cap to sign a few players right now? Instead, we’re sitting at roughly $5M under the cap.

    I’m not sure about our 4th DT (Paul Soliai?), adding another LB (Maualuga?), or our depth on the O-Line. All I know is that $5M isn’t going to go very far.

    Soliai should go for about $1M
    Maualuga should go for about $3-4M
    O-Line should go for about ??? (Nick Mangold should go for about $5M)

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