Dolphins bolster QB position

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With Ryan Tannehill very likely out for the season, the Miami Dolphins acted quickly to make sure they were competitive in 2017.  Some of the names on the list of candidates were of horror movie stuff.  Kyle Orton?  Tim Tebow?  I’m not going to hide my preference, we all know I favored Kaepernick, based only on a pure talent standpoint, and IMO, his potential in Adam Gase’s offense.  I do however, completely understand, and endorse the choice of Jay Cutler.  Gase and Cutler have a synergy.  They can sound off to each other, listen to each other, take criticism from one another, and do it in a manner where both still like and respect one another.  That, in and of itself is worth a lot.

As it has been well documented and discussed over and over, Jay Cutler had his best season with Adam Gase, and there’s reason to believe with the talent we have in our offense here in Miami, that Cutler could easily surpass the numbers he put up in Chicago in 2015.  Jarvis Landry, Devante Parker, Kenny Stills, Jay Ajayi, Julius Thomas, Leonte Carroo, Kenyan Drake, Cutler has plenty of nice weapons to exceed what he did in 2015.

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I guess the big question is, does Jay Cutler start?  I think that’s the plan, unless there are any setbacks for Jay Cutler.  I like Matt Moore, and he’s definitely a capable QB.  On the other hand, he’s a BACKUP QB, not a starter.  He’s excellent at spending time on the sidelines, and then answering the call to come in and get the job done.  Could Jay Cutler do that if he spent weeks on the sidelines, and Moore was injured, and be expected to step in and get the job done immediately?  I’m not so sure about that.  It takes a certain mindset to work that way, much like a relief pitcher in baseball.  Good relievers are worth their weight in gold in MLB, and good backup QB’s are much the same.  Moore has shown, and possibly even preferred to be the backup.  He had opportunities to go elsewhere to compete for a starting job, but there was a certain comfort staying here in Miami as the backup.  No shame in that, he’s one of the best backup QB’s in the NFL, whereas as a starter, he would be towards the bottom of the pack.

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So what of Ryan Tannehill?  I think it’s clear as day that whether Ryan Tannehill gets the surgery now, or 6-8 weeks from now, he’s having surgery and is not really in consideration as our QB for this season.  In other words, he’s done for the season, it’s just a matter of when he has the surgery.  It’s a shame, because many of us felt this was the year Ryan would reach great heights, and realize his potential, but now it’s all on hold for 2018.  None of this is official of course, just official in MY mind.  Get the surgery, come back fully healthy with a stable knee, and kick ass in 2018.  Don’t linger too long wasting time, get it done, and make it happen next season.  Unfortunately for Ryan Tannehill, his first OUT in his contract comes up in 2018, meaning if the Dolphins terminate his contract, of the $17.5M of his contract, only $4.6M is dead money.  If you’re rooting for Ryan (Like I am), also know that number drops even further down in 2019 to a $2.3M dead cap hit, meaning if the Dolphins want to give Tannehill 1 more year to figure out if he could reach a higher level of playing, they can do that.  A great year by Jay Cutler could certainly complicate that picture, but I’ll take the complications!

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723 Responses to Dolphins bolster QB position

  1. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Anyone who is watching, please give us info on McMillan when you get it. Thanks

  2. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Doughty in for the 2nd series…..wonder if that was planned before.

  3. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Who returned the last kickoff for 44 yards?

  4. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Game is on here in the Orlando market. normaly its one of those off channels but weve got it on the main ABC station this week

  5. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    my son says he watches us on batmanstream.com but you really need an ad blocker

  6. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    McMillan is now questionable with a right knee injury.

  7. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    It looked like McMillan had a knee on knee collision. Could just hurt a lot. It didn’t look like a tear job. Fingers crossed.

  8. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    hayes with a great 4.6 40 running down a scramble.

  9. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Williams Hayes is looking NICE this evening. Not only can he kill the run, he’s FAST to get at the QB.

  10. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    hull makes a great stuff.

  11. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Couldn’t see. He walked off OK

  12. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    fede snuffs out a screen.

  13. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    harris stopped a run earlier

  14. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Doughty suck or what?

  15. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    weak throw

  16. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    verner with a nice pass defensed

  17. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    2 guys who had better clean up their acts: Brandon Doughty and Terrence Fede.

  18. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    vincent taylr with a TFL

  19. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Fede was offsides. He also made a really nice play.

  20. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    What’s up with Grant? I’m not watching.

  21. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Lacey the CFL guy has made at least 2 really good plays.

  22. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Grant came up to make a great catch of a punt but he slid right out of bounds.Saved us the roll yardage however and he didn’t fumble.

  23. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Trevor Reilly made a great TFL. He’s the guy we poached from the Patriots a really big MLB.

  24. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Remember how we wanted to add more SPEED to our Defense? I can tell y’all, it’s evident! This Defense of ours is playing MUCH faster than those of the recent past.

  25. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Grant jukes and jives but ultimately only gained about 8 yards from all the cute footwork.

  26. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Drake on a good checkdown but he danced too much and got caught from behind.

  27. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Jakeem Grant jumped a mile in the air to catch a first down.

  28. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Drake with 8 yards that’s 2 good runs in a row. on a great block by Gray

  29. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Caroo on a fabulous back shoulder catch for a TD.

  30. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  31. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Sloppy game but some good stuff from 2nd and 3rd teamers.

  32. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Stock up: Drake, Grant, and Carroo (who, incidentally, led our Phins out of the tunnel before the game).

    I’m sorry: NOT impressed by Doughty’s last two throws, including the TD pass.

  33. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  34. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Was the td pass comparable to an NBA player banking in a 3 pointer?

  35. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Doughty threw it perfectly and Caroo made a great adjustment, stutter stepped the defender went by and caroo strong handed the catch.

  36. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Harris with good speed on the rush then Lacey with the deflection.

  37. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    drew morgan with a great slot catch but Grant messed up the pick so it was wiped out.

  38. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Jordan Phillips is still in the game and the falcons just ripped through the line.

  39. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Not the worst first PS game I’ve ever seen. LOL

  40. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Fede and Hull stuff the rush.

  41. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Godchaux hands to the face penalty.

  42. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    defensive end loses contain and atlanta gets an easy score.

  43. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Grant needs to run fast straight ahead instead of trying to fake out 6 guys.

  44. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I needn’t explain the obvious, but Doughty isn’t making the 53-man roster with Cutler and Moore in-house… but I question if he even makes our PS this year. I don’t believe he’s developed ENOUGH in 1 year under Gase, and he has a wet noodle for an arm (not to be mistaken for Mr. Pennington, either).

    There’s a reason Doughty went in the 7th Round last year and Mr. Pennington went in the 1st Round in 2000.

  45. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Punt return D?

  46. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    All we heard was Morgan this Morgan that, but every pass they’ve thrown to him has been incomplete.

  47. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    How can Fales be worse than Doughty?

  48. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    I just saw on twitter that McMillan is out for the year with ACL. 😣
    Hope that is incorrect.

  49. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Andy Slater‏Verified account @AndySlater 2m2 minutes ago
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    I can confirm the Dolphins believe rookie LB Raekwon McMillan tore his ACL, as @thewiwitos reported.
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    O……M……G……..
    😡

  50. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Rigel Spikes‏ @MF13SS 7m7 minutes ago
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    It’s not CONFIRMED (and can’t be yet) that #RaekwonMcMillan is out for the year with an ACL. But it sure doesn’t sound good, #Dolphins. 😟

  51. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Andy Slater‏Verified account @AndySlater 2m2 minutes ago
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    I can confirm the Dolphins believe…
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    This is NOT confirmation that McMillan, in fact, tore his ACL. It’s confirmation that the Phins fear the worst, and that Slater has heard as much.

  52. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Really a brilliant job 2 have 2 QBs like Doughty and Fales, that are so bad you can’t evaluate the O.

  53. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Anyone watching? Why can’t we complete a pass to Morgan?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Not enough separation and bad QBs. He should be better as a depth option with the 1’s over a team we’ll never see.

  54. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Fuck this stupid fucking sport…with it’s gods that give the Patriots every fucking thing they want, and won’t let us get through even part of the preseason without taking away any stupid fucking hope we may have harbored. Our 1st rd pick is still alive! You missed him lady luck or football gods or whoever the fuck determines this stupid shit. #!$@$@ #!$@! #$@!#$@#^!@ @%#$!#@ $!#$@#!@

  55. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    LOL, that was cool!

  56. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Looks like Gase is thinking too much. Going for 2 that early now puts us back into a possible OT.

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    You still want to fuck around with QBs? LOL

  58. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Owusu had the catch of the year last year.

  59. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Morgan was open for the 2 point play but the QB over threw him.

  60. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Lacey with another good stuff of a screen.

  61. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Okoye sheds a block and snatches the RB down.

  62. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Taylor with a good tackle.

  63. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Griese so senile just said Cam Newton didn’t play long for us tonight.

  64. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Why was McMillan playing STs?

  65. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Stringfellow with a couple of really nice moves. I think he can play in this league.

  66. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    3rd and 11 2 minutes left, in a real game the QB should attempt a pass, but only throw it, if it’s open, otherwise just take a small sack.

  67. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Tannehill, Ajayi and Larsen along with others got hurt practicing the basics. it’s football man. It sucks if McMillan is done for the year. First fucking play. Ugh!

  68. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    Good drinks w/ Walker tonight! Bless McMillan and his knee.

  69. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 16s17 seconds ago
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    Adam Gase says no one has told him Raekwon McMillan has an ACL injury. “You must have better sources than I do.”

  70. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Armando Salguero ✔ @ArmandoSalguero
    Adam Gase says no one has told him Raekwon McMillan has an ACL injury. “You must have better sources than I do.”

  71. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Trubinsky can play.

  72. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Who is this fellow string?

  73. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 10, 2017 at 10:40 pm
    It also doesn’t mean he doesn’t, but these jokers are all trying to be first to report.
    ————-
    ^^^^^^^^^

    Journalism has DIED as Walter Cronkite rolls over in his grave. We don’t call it #FakeNews for nothing.

  74. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Barnett is going to be great

  75. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Man, that really sucks if Raekwon tore his ACL for a few reason: 1. We are down a starting LB and 2. We have no idea what we have in him for the future regarding the LB position. We can’t buy a break this preseason.

  76. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    Hoping we finally get a break on Raekwon!!
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    —————
    BOB GRIESE recently served several years on the board of directors of the Moffitt Cancer Hospital here in Tampa (for no salary). He’s a kind and gentle man who is in the twilight of his broadcasting career. This is NO TIME TO BE TAKING CHEAP SHOTS at a man who has done so much for his team and his community.
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    PLANET OF THE PIGS may arrive sooner than we think!!!!

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      baboons and pigs heart and heart parts have been used for decades. I for one have had a baboon and pig mitral valve.

  77. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Man, if Raekwon is seriously injured, that puts our LB situation almost right back where it was last year, except for the addition of Timmons. That sucks so bad. I was really looking forward to seeing what the kid can do, and how much our defense can improve.

  78. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I think football players should have titanium ACL’s. Enough of these torn ACL fuckers!

  79. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    On a brighter note, How about Stringfellow! I read an article about a month ago where this writer picked one rookie sleeper for each team this season, His pick? Stringfellow.

  80. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    My takes on the game…
    ~ Doughty and Fales are terrible. Camp arms at best. We need to develop a young QB who might…you know…be able to play in the NFL.
    ~ The Dolphins have a plethora of WR. They should start working trades after next game for some who won’t make the team. Barring injury, I believe the first 5 are set.
    ~ They also have great depth at RB.
    ~ OL backups were a pleasant surprise.
    ~ Marquis Gray has a chip on his shoulder.
    ~ Harris is fast off the ball. Wake kind of fast. If he can learn some moves to go with the speed he will be special.
    ~ Philips will be lucky to make the team. They should trade him now. Gaudschaux looks like a steal.
    ~ Hayes was surprisingly good. Played like a man among boys last night.
    ~ McMillan’s injury aside, LB play was okay. No one stood out in a negative way, including Hull. As for the injury, shit happens. It’s not like the team can say they’re not playing ST tonight.
    ~ CB play was spotty at best.
    ~ I thought Matt Darr was kind of lazy last night. Maybe too comfortable.

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      just preseason—~ Philips will be lucky to make the team. They should trade him now. Gaudschaux looks like a steal. —-We would be lucky if we can get a 7th rounder replacing a second rounder, When these players are drafted the team hopes to have a low priced late rounder replacing a player whose contract is coming up or a higher draft pick…. This is a win for the personnel dept.

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Yes, the personnel department did well. And even though a 7th probably about what we would get, it’s better than nothing. Ideally, they could find a team with an underperforming MLB and swap.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Great points — and I’ll second you on Hayes. Stringfellow got the interview, but he was the star of the game for me in thinking about next season.

      CB play was spotty, but many we for a lot of speed and athleticism in the back 7, even if some of it is raw.

  81. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    On a brirter note of the game CAAAAAAAAA———————RRROOOOOOOOOOO is ready to be inducted in HOF with Mike’s blessings from his performanance last night….

  82. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    anyone see the interview with S. Ross last night during the game. Football is a dying sport while Soccer is king. My wife who is in retail confirmed what I was thinking. She says one can go into any retail outlet in S.Florida and she says sports merchandise is dominated by soccer, not dolphins football merchandise which may have one rack as opposed to 5-6 for college football,basketball,baseball,and soccer. Soccer having the most racks among all the sports. You could tell the excitement of Ross bringing the international soccer events to S.Florida as opposed to the American football dying sport. American football is not what it was 5-10 years ago and the unions meant for good of all, have destroyed the sport.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol, maybe it has so.ething to do with the immigrants there. You’re killin me as usual😉

      • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

        Would like a national perspective, but I heard soccer is the most popular sport internationally. “Your killing me” is a word phrase that people I say too often. Probably got bad habit from you…..

  83. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Man, I am so pissed Reakwon is probably done for the year! We can’t catch a fucking break. We get a very young guy who appears to be putting it all together to be a good starter for us for years Andy blows his knee on the first fucking play!

  84. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    any thoughts on duke johnson(RB) who was from UM. He broke records at UM before transferring. I didn’t like him when he was at UM because he used to run standing straight up as opposed to hutched downed when hitting the OL hole. Different running style

  85. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Last Night Griese started talking about how chad henne went down and we brought in Chad Pennington and went 11-5 making a comparison to our situation now.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Griese was all over the place as usual though. Even if I like him and Nat Moore…..that crew would be like talking with your buddies if Stockton wasn’t such a pro and kept them focused.

      • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

        you see Nat Moore’s beer belly. Looks like he can lose 30-40 lbs. Ross looked in great shape for someone at that age.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I’m sure it’s crossed all our minds, but the difference is Pennington played as he always did, if Cutler plays as he always did we’re in trouble, with the exception of 2015. Personally I don’t see any reason to believe we won’t see 2015 Cutler.

  86. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Matt Burke is straight out of Hollywood casting. You’d know he was our D Coordinator even if you didn’t.

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      maybe he’s trying tolook like DC from NE.He just needs a #2 pencil and not mechanical.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Tried to find a pic with the new beard style but couldn’t. Thinking he wanted a signature look now that he is going to be on camera all the time…..or maybe his wife told him to do it.

  87. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    We’re gonna have to trade for a LB imo if mcmillan is out this year. We have a few WRs.

  88. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    next man up in no particular order, mike hull, deon lacey , hewitt or reily

  89. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i think wake-branch and harris will be tough to deal with for opposing qbs, harris looks like the next wake

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Had to like what Harris showed. He’s got one heck of a motor and some really shifty moves on the inside. Not going to overpower anyone, but he sure knows how not to get two hands on him.

  90. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    a lot of negative things about j phillips however i see him move the middle of the line back on short yardage, he’s definitely a huge clog up the middle

  91. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    William Harris is also a BEAST!!!

  92. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    im not sure grant and caroo make this team, string fellow – owusu made a great catch with great body control and morgan looks like wes welker!

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      We got too many wideouts who should be on this team for sure, but not like Grant and Carroo had bad nights.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        not thrilled with either, grant is too small, carroo is to slow he made a nice move to the ball because the defender out ran him and the play

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        It was first night we saw the slimmed down version of Carroo who ran a 4.5 at the combine…..and he has got some size on him. Would agree about Grant if he wasn’t a dynamic returner.

  93. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    1st down dl…… wake…suh…phillips…hayes

  94. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    spikes, maualuga, ellerbe, orr, sheppard are all available.

  95. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tell me if this works for you guys

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  96. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Any update on Raekwon????

  97. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    stangerx says:
    August 11, 2017 at 10:31 am
    Tried to find a pic with the new beard style but couldn’t. Thinking he wanted a signature look now that he is going to be on camera all the time…..or maybe his wife told him to do it.
    wish I could grow a beard like his at 59. First day of bootcamp I had the bootcamp co/xo of our group yelling and screaming at me about missing a whisker shaving. It took me 10 searching my face and dry razor shaving and I still didn’t find anything but peach fuzz. after graduation ceremony I saw my grandfather 33 yrs in navy laughing with my co/xo. I was shaking dry shaving my face that first day.

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