Game Day! – Jets @ Dolphins – FEST weekend

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  1. Rockphin says:

    Well fucking halalauya
    It takes going to Mexico to make my account work. I missed you guys at the fest yesterday I’m glad we got a win. I’ve been blocked the last couple of weeks and not able to post for whatever reason. I got on the plane and we were losing looking like a typical dolphins under performance And landed to see we had scored 17 unanswered points. Matt Moore is the man! Go Dolphins. The resort here is beautiful. I wish I was there in the fourth quarter to see you guys going apeshit as we took the win for the stinking fucking Jets. I’ve seen a couple posts saying we are first place in the division. We are actually third place in the division but on our way. I am kind of pissed because I didn’t realize that we had two games this week that I will miss. I am going to give my brother shit when he wakes up and I will not be gentle hangover or not

  2. Rockphin says:

    I am already on my third white Russian and pretty drunk

  3. Ken says:

    Offense looked much more crisp when Moore was in. He had similar numbers but I don’t think his play was as good as the numbers look. Moore was much more decisive and got the ball out of his hands much quicker. He is also more accurate in ball placement

  4. manitobafinfan says:

    If anyone finds my voiceplease return to me as i seem to have lost it 😎

    • ukfinfan says:

      I always wondered Toba …… do you have a bit of French accent going on? Always wondered if I should read your posts with an Allo, Allo type accent?

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Depends in how much i have been drinking… the druker i get the more i sound British 😎. Other than that im theinly one without an accent 🤡🤡

      • stangerx says:

        Good hanging out with you yesterday……just kidding but do hope some day to see you and fake-ukfin talking Arsenal or how us Yanks butcher the Queen’s English at a tailgate. 🙂

      • ukfinfan says:

        Would be awesome to make a Fest Stanger. One year the stars may align ….. you never know.

  5. Phindog says:

    Poolside today.. Try to rest my liver.

  6. Mike E. says:

    UK – Toba sounds like Inspector Clousseau, exactly.

  7. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Thanks again man for all you do to make it a great and easy weekend for all of us out of touch out of towners

  8. D says:

    Ken says:
    October 23, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Offense looked much more crisp when Moore was in. He had similar numbers but I don’t think his play was as good as the numbers look. Moore was much more decisive and got the ball out of his hands much quicker. He is also more accurate in ball placement
    ——————————————
    I said this last year when Moore came in, he has complete confidence on every snap and throw. He has really good mechanics too. Cutler though, when planting his feet, and with a decent pocket is superior. His throws are much better. Moore doesn’t really rattle, i think that’s where he and Culter and hell he an Tanny deviate. He is easily the most comfortable QB we have pocket wise.

    I think Tanny is the most athletic, so he turns a scramble into a first, Cutler is the most pocket aware, so when he has room to move and isn’t panicking, he moves really well in the pocket. Moore is the best stand in there, make a decision and deliver of all of them. He does make some bad decisions or gets a little too confident in his throws, so he is more likely to gamble and get picked.

    I dont see Moore as making the offense work more crisply, i think the big deal has been Cutler running scared back there. Plenty of times he has had the chance to plant and throw, but he has thrown off the back foot in anticipation of the pressure that was indeed coming, but he was already prepping for something he probably had another second to make a better throw. If its broken ribs with Cutler, then its probably at least 4 games out, so Moore im sure will be the guy for at least a span of games.

    Dont expect our offense to seriously jump up in potency, its always been there and Moore will probably get the most out of it some games, but he is going to kill drives for us too throwing picks or not picking up third and longs. You can pretty much expect a lot more of what we are already seeing, which is up and down consistency from the QB spot, the defense really needing to keep us in games, and us winning by small margins.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You could see the difference in every pass
      We would be better with tannehill
      But Moore is a huge upgrade from cutler

  9. ukfinfan says:

    So Fales is coming back. Fails for Fales?

  10. ukfinfan says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    October 23, 2017 at 10:47 am
    Depends in how much i have been drinking… the druker i get the more i sound British . Other than that im theinly one without an accent

    Toba – you are either (a) still a little over the limit, (b) your fingers are too big for your cell keyboard or (c) you were speaking a dialect of French I never came across at school

  11. Phindog says:

    Stanger… Thanks again for getting us all together. It’s been a Great time as always.

  12. Phindog says:

    Toba sounds like Peter Brady today. 😎

  13. Tim Knight says:

    Glad you guys had a great time and an exciting win.

  14. drg says:

    Victory Monday!

    Hope you all had a great time. Good call on the game, that was a fun one.

  15. drg says:

    D,

    I agree that Cutler might be the better guy in a clean pocket, but he’s not getting that with our OL and TEs. He had his best game this season so maybe things will keep improving once he’s back healthy. We are dead last in most offensive categories though, so there is nowhere to go but up.

    I thought it was pretty clear Moore was a big upgrade at the QB spot. The players all love the guy, he knows the offense, and he is a fun guy to watch and root for. Hopefully he stays healthy and we can keep rolling. The defense had a down day so it was nice to see our offense step up for the win. This team is unbelievable in close games.

    • D says:

      I dont see how anyone can say Moore is a huge upgrade. Cutler i think was beginning to show hewas settling in and playing less scared, ironically before he got hurt. Moore is a different guy than Cutler so he reacts to pressure different, so showing the looks that they gave to Cutler, that game plan, wasn’t as effective against Moore.

      14 points and moving the ball well by Cutler, or 14 points and moving the ball well by Moore, i just cant see how you can judge them as one being dramatically different from the other. Moore did a great job in relief, but you guys are acting like the dude walks on water right now. He isnt going to give us all that boost you think. Give it a few games and you guys will be right back to screaming for someone else to be at the QB spot.

      Also to Piggy, Tannehill = Moore = Cutler, each have their strengths,and weaknesses but when it all boils down, they are really pretty equal. Cutler probably should have stayed retired, he has become injury prone, and i think its making him gunshy, but as a QB, he has as much potential to lay down a stinker as any of the other two, and he probably has about as much potential. Remember, we have only seen 6 consistently good games from Tanny, and when he comes back we dont know if this much time away is going to break that rhythm, we also know that Moore had some pretty nice games in relief and some bad ones, just last year.

      I think you guys are in that “guy in the wings” mode about the QB, the same as a lot of teams are when they are desperate to find THE answer at QB. My personal opinion is to take these things for what they are. Cutler was the QB, period, so we needed him to progress and play his best. He looked like he was but who knows for sure. Right now Moore is the QB and we need him to play his best so we can succeed, but we also can expect him to be perfect because i promise you itisnt going to all belike this last game with him, history has shown us that. When Tannehill is back we are going to need him to play his best and to pick back up to where he was leaving off growing as a QB so we have some future success.

      The whole “the guy who is out for the year is a God compared to the person we have” or the “We should start our backup because we hate the starter” is pointless when you have 0 control over who gets played. Its also pointless to elevate a person to the obvious choice from a small sample and with history of that players performance arguing against it. There is no logic to that argument.

    • D says:

      The players were saying they loved Cutler too, so either both are potentially lies, or both are true. Jarvis defended Cutler really strongly.

  16. Happy Monday peeps long time no see — any time we beat the stej it is great!! Also, Anthony Fasanoooo is the best TE on the team! That’s for you Son! Take care everybody and Go Fins!

  17. sb7mvp says:

    I’m glad everyone was able to see a good game and a win for the fest.

    • D says:

      It was a good game, and even after we fell behind part of me really felt we would pull it out. This team is gritty, so im never really counting us out, though the Atlanta game was like one score before i completely counted us out of that one lol.

  18. D says:

    Ok Piggy, so just last year Moore comes in after Tanny goes out. He tallies 8 TD’s to 3 ints, almost 800 yards 105+ QB rating. He looked like a God the first game and people were saying, see how much better he is than Tanny, because the whole year,

    Last year Tanny early on was being booed and people were screaming to put Moore in, all the way through until game 6. Gase defended Tanny and said he was going to stick with him. The running game finally got going and then it wasnt so easy to just throw pressure after pressure on every snap, Tanny gets some time to make plays he starts having success. The OL finally got healthy too. So by game 6 it paid off and a little lift in confidence helped Tanny string together like 6 good games. After Tanny goes down Moore came in and led us to a last minute FG win against Arizona, and then he led us to back to back wins, where we scored 34 points, more than we had any game with Tanny. Everyone was yelling Moore is the starter, he always should have been, yadda yadda. Then he lays a big ole stinker against the Pats and everyone is OMG if we just had Tanny we would have wong, and then he does it again against the Steelers in our playoff game. Cant wait to get Tanny back.

    This scenario doesn’t at all sound differently than Cutler and this season, except we dont really know for sure where Cutler would have gone after this game because he got hurt. My point is, Moore is only better because you had already made up your mind he was. You were already saying to yourself, Moore should be in there before the game started. You feel validated that see i was right, but how do you know this wasn’t the game Cutler goes on a tear, and takes us to 6 straight wins, and what would say then, what happens if Moore as predictably as his overall record is, loses more than half the rest of the games and has games he throws 3 TD’s followed by ones where he throws 3 INT’s. What if we had gotten our way with Moore last year and Tanny got benched and we finished outside the playoffs.

    Again, it doesnt really matter to me as long as the guy under center plays and is as successful as possible but i really think all the “huge upgrade” and “every pass was better” is pretty much your dislike for Cutler talking and not at all a logical statement.

    12/16 75% comp 138 11.5 ypc 2 TD to 1 INT 113+ QB rating
    or
    13/21 62% comp 188 14.5 ypc 2 TD to 1 INT 102+ QB rating

    Yeah one of them looks like a huge upgrade over the other. Be objective, and i promise you you wont be seeing a night and day difference nor a guy who definately should be leading the team over the other.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Our QB situation is what it is. It’s never easy when you have to go the 3rd QB even if we’ve got a good backup in Moore. We need to play good team football to win games.

  19. drg says:

    D,

    You’re jumping to conclusions with my comments. I have never said Matt Moore is anything greater than a solid backup QB. We were dead last in most categories under Cutler through five games. Breaking records for futility. 3 points in the first half through 5 games. A defense holding teams under 20 ppg and playing well. Cutler has been truly awful. Why wait and hope that Cutler improves from that low of a standard?

    We’ve seen Moore, we know who he is and what he’s capable of. Are we a SB contender with him in? No. Like I said, he knows the offense, good team guy the players will rally around, fun to root for and watch. I’ll take that over Cutler every day and enjoy watching the team compete for a playoff spot. Guys can argue over arm strength, pocket presence, etc.. Bottom line is he gives us a better chance to win so why wouldn’t we go with him?

    • D says:

      I would agree with that IF i did actually agree with the fact he gives us a better chance of winning. I don’t think Moore is that, i think he probably is good in a pinch, as Tim said a good backup no doubt, but you don’t want him starting for long strings of games because he cant sustain that kind of output for that long. Its not something he manages well because he has never really been a starter. I think a settled down Cutler, like we saw in the first half despite a lot of pressure on him is a better chance of winning. Moore is what he is, but right now it doesnt really matter because we have to hope he elevates his play so we can at least make it through this stretch.

      Also i apologise if it came off like i was saying you were saying that, i was halfway replying to Piggy, who was saying that, while replying also to you. I should have been more clear.

  20. Ken says:

    D:
    I don’t know why when I posted that Moore is better than Cutler now that you brought Tannehill into the conversation. Right now I think Moore gives us a better chance to win than Cutler. The Tannehill conversation is if and when he is healthy next season

  21. Ken says:

    Back home in Connecticut

  22. The Flying Pig says:

  23. drg says:

    D,

    No apology necessary, my friend. We disagree on Moore vs Cutler and you have the HC on your side so tough to argue much. Hopefully Moore tears it up and we have a bit of a QB controversy to deal with in a few weeks.

  24. The Flying Pig says:

    Ken
    Wake has 6 sacks right now
    Which is 10tth in the NFL
    He’s probably gonna bc to need a few more multi-sack games to get serious consideration

    Calais Campbell has 10 sacks 😳
    I honestly think Suh has been our DPOY
    But Wake has been amazing

    • Ken says:

      I know the numbers are not necessarily there but I think he is playing the best he has played. He is getting pressure consistently. Suh has been excellent too

  25. ocalarob says:

    No rest for the weary, What time is the Thursday night game Fest?

  26. CavalierKong says:

    Our oline was about as awful as it’s possible to be yesterday. ZERO room to run, and they got our QBs hit all day long.

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL, Ajayi had 51 yards, 48 came after contact. That is ridiculous.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Glad that Gase still stayed committed to the run. In years past we would have given up on it and we would have lost being one dimensional.

        The Jets blitz a lot and they blitzed us a ton. All of their sacks this year are from LBs and DBs. Not one from a DL.

        We’re not where we need to be yet on the OL but hopefully they get better as the seasons rolls on.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, I mentioned that during the game. Even though a good run for the day only got us 2-3 yards, it was necessary to keep the D honest.

      • CavalierKong says:

        That being said, our oline was awful. They were getting no movement on the Dline on rushing plays and basically got pushed around all day in pass protection.

  27. stangerx says:

    Lot of you asked…..the Team Doc (meaning his ortho) reported on Chef Warren’s condition today. He’s gonna be on IR for 6-8 weeks, but no surgery needed and gonna spend that time in a walking boot like P-dog rather than on crutches.

    And Story showed she has starter in her. Nothing like depth on the bench.

  28. Tim Knight says:

    Mike Francesa was just talking about how the culture of some teams are changing for the better and he mentions JAX due to Coughlin as a VP, McVay in LAR and said Gase in MIA even though we’ve been woefully inconsistent. He said he has a knack to win close games and some guys just seem to have the ability to do that. 🙂

  29. mf13ss says:

    Barry Jackson
    Barry Jackson
    @flasportsbuzz
    New Fins injury: Steen has a foot injury and couldn’t practice. So Steen, Tunsil with health issues, didn’t practice. Nor did Branch,Parker.

  30. mf13ss says:

    Barry Jackson
    @flasportsbuzz
    And Ajayi now has elbow issue, on top of ongoing knee issue, so he was limited today. Short turnaround for Ravens game Thurs.

  31. mf13ss says:

    Chris Wittyngham
    @ChrisWittyngham
    Per @TomGarfinkel’s instagram, the pitch at Hard Rock Stadium was removed today

  32. naplesfan2010 says:

    per PFF
    The Miami Dolphins got a big game from edge defender Cameron Wake in their come from behind Week 7 win over the Jets. His game grade of 80.3 was his third consecutive game with a grade above 80.0.
    Wake was incredibly efficient rushing the passer in this game, racking up seven total pressures on 18 pass-rush snaps, with three of them being sacks. His pass-rush productivity of 33.3 was the highest among edge defenders this week.
    Looking at the season as a whole, Wake is defying age with his performance, currently grading as the 11th best edge defender in football with a grade of 86.8. He has arguably been the most productive edge defender league wide this season and has the highest pass-rush productivity among edge defenders at 17.1. He’s racked up 30 total pressures, with 13 being sacks or hits, on 142 pass-rush snaps.

  33. naplesfan2010 says:

    yikes we have a lot of guys banged up, but so do the Ravens.

  34. naplesfan2010 says:

    PFF says:
    The Jets’ offense totaled negative four yards in the final quarter of play, paving the way for Moore-led Dolphins comeback.

    Defensively, Dolphins’ Reshad Jones led the team with seven tackles. With that, we give you our PFF exclusive takeaways from the contest for each team.

  35. naplesfan2010 says:

    Did you guys see Davon Godchaux drop back in pass defense … successfully defending against a slot WR?

  36. naplesfan2010 says:

    PFF TOP 5 GRADES:
    WR Jarvis Landry, 86.7 overall grade

    DI Ndamukong Suh, 84.7 overall grade

    Edge Cameron Wake, 84.4 overall grade

    LB Rey Maualuga, 83.2 overall grade

    DI Davon Godchaux, 81.4 overall grade

  37. naplesfan2010 says:

    PFF analysis:
    QB MATT MOORE, 71.8 OVERALL GRADE
    Filling in after Jay Cutler went down in early in the third quarter, Moore made a number of big throws down the stretch in the comeback win. Moore consistently gave his play makers a chance to make a play on the ball, finding Kenny Stills on a corner route versus an all out blitz for a 28-yard touchdown, and connecting with Jarvis Landry on a 29-yard back-shoulder throw, setting up the game tying touchdown. On the day, Moore was at his best when the Jets did not blitz, going 11-of-13 for 143 yards, a touchdown, and a 138.1 passer rating on such throws.

  38. naplesfan2010 says:

    WR JARVIS LANDRY, 86.7 OVERALL GRADE
    No matter which defenders the Jets matched up on Landry he managed to have success, catching passes on five different defenders on a multitude of routes. Landry was targeted 10 times total on the day, catching seven passes for 93 yards and touchdown. Landry’s had two clutch plays on the final game-tying touchdown drive, catching a crossing route and picking up big yards and leaping over a defender in the process, followed by a nice back shoulder catch that set up the game tying touchdown.

  39. naplesfan2010 says:

    DI NDAMUKONG SUH, 84.7 OVERALL GRADE
    Suh was his usual, dominant self in the middle of the Dolphins defense all game. Against the run, he consistently blew up plays, despite not making any run stops. His run-defense grade of 87.2 shows just how unblockable he was for the Jets offensive line. He was no slouch in the pass game either, as he recorded a sack, a hit and four quarterback hurries on 28 pass-rushes.

  40. naplesfan2010 says:

    EDGE CAMERON WAKE, 84.4 OVERALL GRADE
    It was a big game for Wake, as he managed to rack up three sacks rushing the passer. He also had three quarterback hurries, and drew a couple of holding penalties with his pass-rush. He got those six pressures despite only rushing the passer 18 times. His pass-rushing productivity score of 29.2 for the game is very impressive, and he led all players in this game with an 86.3 pass-rushing grade.

  41. naplesfan2010 says:

    CB BUSTER SKRINE, 27.1 OVERALL GRADE
    Skrine struggled throughout the day, with a number of penalties and he gave up plenty of big plays down the field. Overall he was targeted 7 times, giving up 7 catches for 119 yards 3 touchdowns and a perfect passer rating of 158.3 in coverage. Skrine was beaten for touchdowns on the final two scores for the Dolphins.

  42. naplesfan2010 says:

    PFF gave the game ball to Jarvis Landry.

  43. Tim Knight says:

    A lot of guys got banged up but it’s Monday after just playing yesterday. The report on Tunsil was good, could play Thursday. Wednesday will tell us more where guys are at.

  44. Tim Knight says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 1h1 hour ago
    Dolphins didn’t actually practice but NFL requires what would have happened had they practiced…

  45. Mike E. says:

    I went over to talk to this guy that was waiting for the same flight as us by the gate at the airport, he and his wife were both wearing Dolphins shirts. I asked if they enjoyed the game, and we had a nice convo about the game, the team, and FLA, and meeting up with a group (he kinda did the same thing as us). Then the funny thing, we go to our seats on the plane, and we’re sitting right next to each other. Pretty funny. He also BTW, feels like Moore is better than Cutler. I told him I disagree, but one thing I did see that Moore just looked more prepared, and much more comfortable and aggressive as compared to Cutler. I still just chalk that up to familiarity. Cutler played pretty well Sunday, something a lot of you overlook. The tipped INT is something that happens, but he played well. I think Moore has a chance to keep the job if he plays very well, but I also think there’s an excellent chance as soon as Cutler is healthy, he’s back in.

  46. Mike E. says:

    Tim – Yeah, so they just make shit up and say “Yeah, he wasn’t going to practice, he’s really hurting”?

  47. Tim Knight says:

    Naples, yes on Godchaux, we’ve dropped all of our DL in games. I like how Burke thinks. We got beat early on some stuff, it seemed we weren’t ready for their backs out of the backfield. Then we settled down and played better as the game went on. One TD was a gift on the 2 yard line after the tip pick.

    Still room for improvement but I like what I see from this defense and McDonald is getting close. 🙂

    • Tim Knight says:

      That said Wake, Suh and Jones are all playing all-pro. Alonso and Timmons playing at a high level as well. They cover a lot of ground and have really good instincts.

  48. mf13ss says:

    Anybody else notice that Jay Cutler was SLANGIN’ the ROCK yesterday (just as he had in the preseason), or was it just me? Folks, he’s been nursing an injury (might have even been his diabetes, as jetssuck had stated a while back). It’s not like he all of the sudden remembered how to throw deep and Gase suddenly called deep passes… as had been done in the preseason, c’mon. And DeVante (his deep ball preference) was OUT, to boot.

    Take away the freak batted-ball INT (circus play/catch by Mo Wilkerson), and Cutler’s passer rating would have been 140.1: THIS is the QB we signed for $10M and why Gase has stood by him all along. Cutler ANSWERED yesterday! SUCKS that his ribs are injured now, SMH.

    There is NO QB controversy after yesterday… Cutler is our starter now that he can throw the deep ball once again (once his ribs are good enough to go, of course).

    Did Matt Moore BALL as predicted? Of course he did… why wouldn’t he? And where does this notion of ‘we know who he is, and he’s only good for a few games a year’ come from? Last time he either started or played more than 3 games in a season was back in 2011 (87.1 RAT) on a TERRIBLE Offense: that notion is truly faulty. As a matter of fact, Moore did what he did yesterday coming off the bench, having never ONCE getting a rep since week 1 of the regular season.

    I think we should just all accept that Gase was correct about Cutler eventually coming around, Moore is the best backup QB in the NFL (could start for at LEAST 8 teams) and is a STUD… and that our O-Line is in TROUBLE, as predicted.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t think it was an injury but a dead arm after not having a full offseason. No OTAs and minicamps, late to TC, lack of football activity.

      “and that our O-Line is in TROUBLE, as predicted.”

      It’s not where it needs to be but we’ve won 3 in a row. 🙂

      Moore will likely play at least the next 3 games. We have to play team football to win anyway. No change here. Forget just Cutler, the entire offense looked bad for 3.5 games after looking okay at LAC. The entire group seems to be coming out of it. Like Gase said, the Jets defensive personnel is a tough matchup for us. They’re big and physical.

    • Ken says:

      Sorry didn’t see that way. He was hesitant with the ball. His ball placement was still off. The one deep ball he completed to Stills should have been picked but for a ridiculous catch by Stills. There is no QB controversy. Moore is clearly better right now. He is much more decisive, he has much better ball placement, he has much better pocket presence, he ran the offense smoothly with no wasting time running the clock down to the last second. To me yesterday solidified my opinion that Cutler should not see the field again

  49. Mike E. says:

    Rob

    Great to meet you buddy! Glad you showed up man, it was fun to hang, even though you kicked my ass in pool.

  50. mf13ss says:

    Ken says:
    October 23, 2017 at 7:55 pm
    Sorry didn’t see that way…
    ———-
    I’ll tell you this… I thought Matt Moore looked DAMN good yesterday, Bro (as predicted)!!! Like you, I wanted to see Moore in there over the last several games as Cutler appeared (at least to me) injured.

    We agree, Ken, that Moore is more than capable of leading this Offense… and I think we’d agree that he could do it at a very high level over the remainder of the season if need be. You’ll get ZERO disagreement from me there.

  51. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 23, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    “and that our O-Line is in TROUBLE, as predicted.”

    It’s not where it needs to be but we’ve won 3 in a row. 🙂
    ———–
    I ALWAYS love your optimism, Tim! 🙂

    But regarding our O-Line, I can’t share your optimism. Pouncey, Tunsil, and Steen are banged up.

    Here’s to hoping that Ted Larsen will be ready to ROCK once he’s active.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We’re getting to the point in the season when everyone is banged up. Pouncey was in concussion protocol but started, Tunsil’s injury is being reported as not as bad as originally thought, and Steen not sure about but we’ll know more in the next few days.

      We’re one of the many teams with an inconsistent OL. It’s probably the weakest position in the league. Point to the way the college game is played. It takes some time to get these guys ready in the NFL – even with some vets with chemistry as a unit. Keep working.

  52. Tim Knight says:

    Maualuga has been a nice surprise. He adds size and physicality we don’t have in Hull who is a backup but a gritty player and good on STs. Maualuga also showed some FB presence – now that’s position flexibility and good use of a roster spot. 🙂

    It’s pretty crazy how the LB position and depth looks so much better now even without McMillan, who we really don’t know much about yet, other than he was the starter at the Mike until he got hurt.

  53. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 23, 2017 at 8:17 pm
    We’re getting to the point in the season when everyone is banged up. Pouncey was in concussion protocol but started, Tunsil’s injury is being reported as not as bad as originally thought, and Steen not sure about but we’ll know more in the next few days.

    We’re one of the many teams with an inconsistent OL. It’s probably the weakest position in the league. Point to the way the college game is played. It takes some time to get these guys ready in the NFL – even with some vets with chemistry as a unit. Keep working.
    ———–
    Just so that we’re on the same page, my man… you DO realize that Ajayi has yet to score a TD this year? As a matter of fact, we have yet to score a rushing TD from ANYBODY 6 games into this season.

    Our O-Line was already suspect going into this b!tch, and now it’s only getting worse.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yes I am aware of no rushing TDs but we’re very effective in the red zone anyway. I know it looks strange but we must remember our offense was awful from the first Jets game through the 1st half of the ATL game – 3.5 games worth of not much to zilch. That’s in the past. We just won 31-28. 51 points in the last 6 quarters on offense.

      The season didn’t go as planned and yet we’re 4-2. Until it falls apart and we obviously hope that doesn’t happen, ride the wave as odd as it may seem. LOL

  54. wyoming85 says:

  55. mf13ss says:

    Rigel Spikes‏ @MF13SS 21s21 seconds ago
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    Since the merger, only 1 other team started 4-2 w/o a single rushing TD: ’99 Seahawks (Holmgren/Sherman). R. Watters ROCKED. #Dolphins’17.

  56. mf13ss says:

    Rigel Spikes‏ @MF13SS 14s15 seconds ago
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    Yes… the #Seahawks DID make the playoffs in ’99! So good news, #Dolphins!

  57. The Flying Pig says:

    M13

    I didn’t think cutler was very good yesterday either

    That throw to stills should have been an INT but for a spectacular play by stills

    I agree with Ken, cutler seems really indecisive
    I think sticking with cutler is a road to nowhere

    • mf13ss says:

      You’re going to have to take your case to Coach Gase, man.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I’m not going to argue with the coaches decision
        They see a lot more than me
        I just don’t see what you observed

        Fwiw we don’t know what Gase will do when Cutler is healthy

  58. wyoming85 says:

    Lucky Bastard!

  59. Just think where we’d be if the Phins took my advice and drafted Wentz

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That ship has sailed
      Any qb prospects you like this year?

      • More and more it’s looking like this qb class isn’t going to be anywhere near what it’s been hyped to be coming into the season. I can tell you I definitely do not like Lamar Jackson. As a developmental prospect maybe in the 3rd rd if he’s there I’d go with Benkert of Virginia but the top guys don’t impress me.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Yeah seems like the whole class took a step back

      • Mason Rudolph besides Benkert if you’re going early and starter. Mayfield scares the shit out of me. Reminds me too much of Johnny Football. Not thrilled with either Allen or Rosen right now. Darnold is probably staying in school, and he should, but he’s questionable as well. You’re taking a chance on most of these guys.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yes at #22 we were very prepared to do that. But if we pulled off this crazy scenario, you deserve greatness.

  60. Tim Knight says:

    Our skill players beat the Jets scheme. Their approach was just like the first game – attack them and stop Ajayi and the run, we’ll take our chances against their passing game. This time we beat them with 4 TD passes with two QBs. Not many teams can pull that off already down the starting QB. Enjoy it!

  61. The Flying Pig says:

  62. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    October 23, 2017 at 9:11 pm
    I’m not going to argue with the coaches decision
    They see a lot more than me
    I just don’t see what you observed

    Fwiw we don’t know what Gase will do when Cutler is healthy
    ———–
    The coaches see a lot more than you and I both observe (combined), but I saw the REAL Cutler yesterday… doesn’t matter if you disagree with me, the FO, Gase, or vice-versa.

    IF Matt Moore balls out, it will be difficult to reinsert Cutler as our starter. One game at a time… let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. Gase said exactly as much in his presser today to the media.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      If Our offense scores like it did in the last 3 regular season games last year that should be enough to stick with Moore

      Bc the offense under Jay Cutler was never anywhere near that offense

      I didn’t see a much different cutler yesterday than we saw in the first month of the season

      The reality is neither qb is the qb of our future
      So I just think you go with the one that gets you more points

    • Tim Knight says:

      If we’re playing well with Moore it will be hard to make the switch. Cutler will become the backup and that’s okay. I think he’d get it.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He’ll get a check either way
        Just score points

        I’m not sure there won’t be more than 1 change before the season is through. I don’t care if they rotate these guys…lol

  63. olddolphan says:

    A FEW COMMENTS:
    1) Brian, hope you liked using my 2 seats at the game. Did your son have a good time?
    2) The difference between Moore and Cutler was unbelievable!! Everybody on the offense seemed THRILLED to see Moore. He was BY FAR the better QB!!!
    3) I HOPE we stick with an October or later date for the Fest. September is full of ultra hot weather and too many hurricanes/tropical storms!
    4) My old alma mater, FAU, ran up 69 points and 804 yards of offense against what was a 4-2 North Texas State team! Lookas like Lane Kiffen has greatly upgraded FAU’s football program.
    ———–
    ONE MORE good night’s sleep and I’ll be JUST FINE, thank you! Me and Mrs. OD will be watching the Fins Thursday Night in Spartanburg, S.C. –Y’all have a great evening!!

  64. olddolphan says:

    Mr. Spikes and Mike E; THOSE OF US who were worried about our O-Line woes during summer camp have had our O-Line doubts confirmed. This Offensive line remains one of the worst in the NFL!! We’ve already lost Cutler. And Ajayi is taking a horrible beating!! NO WONDER we have zero rushing touchdowns this season. Matt Moore’s ability to roll-out quicker than Cutler hopefully will help him to avoid serious injury for the rest of the season. Management’s decision NOT to draft an O-Lineman before round 5 doesn’t look so good right now.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Larsen and Urbik going down hurt the depth. What if a 2nd rd rookie OL went down like LB McMillan? Shit happens!! We’re on QB #3 and we’re 4-2.

  65. The Flying Pig says:

    From earlier today

  66. Like they said during the game, this would be like Jay Cutler playing the first game of the season based on time in training camp and going thru a full offseason. Not saying he played great to this point by any stretch but when you’re out of the game getting ready for a different career and aren’t doing what you normally do to get ready for the offseason and Gase comes calling this is what you’re going to see so far.
    Team has done great to stay in the race up to this point and I think maybe Gase is doing a better job than I’ve given him credit for because he knows that Jay wasn’t going to be ready and he decided to go with baby steps on the offensive side until he got to where he needed to be.
    He did begin to play better 2nd half of last game and was playing better yesterday. Not great, but still better than he was. So, gotta put things into perspective.

  67. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    October 23, 2017 at 9:27 pm
    If Our offense scores like it did in the last 3 regular season games last year that should be enough to stick with Moore

    Bc the offense under Jay Cutler was never anywhere near that offense

    I didn’t see a much different cutler yesterday than we saw in the first month of the season

    The reality is neither qb is the qb of our future
    So I just think you go with the one that gets you more points
    —————
    Once again, you need to take your case to Coach Gase.

    BTW… did you SERIOUSLY not see a change in Cutler yesterday? His arm was actually HEALTHY enough to even attempt passes over 20 yards for the first time in a couple of months.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m not making a case to the coach….lol
      It’s just my observation and my opinions

      That throw to Stills was no different that the throw to Parker in the chargers game

      I don’t think anything yesterday supported your theory that he was injured in the first month

      It’s really not just a question with arm strength with cutler
      It’s basic mechanics and bad/slow decision making

      I think more likely than not cutler for old, his arm strength faded and mentally he is still the same cutler he always was just without the benefit of a big arm – I doubt it’s coming back

      I can buy the theory that he had to familiarize himself with the receivers and/or offense and that may happen in time
      But I’m not buying that he was injured for the first month of the season if that is what you are driving at

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yes dead arm getting back to strength. The OL still not helping him step up in the pocket – some of it’s on him. He’s not the future anyway. He’s a let’s not have a bad season rental.

  68. Tim Knight says:
    October 23, 2017 at 9:19 pm
    Yes at #22 we were very prepared to do that. But if we pulled off this crazy scenario, you deserve greatness.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    we were at #8 and traded down to #13 with Philly who traded up twice to get to #2 to get Wentz

    • Tim Knight says:

      Oh right, my bad it was two drafts ago. If you think that was the org’s thinking even then, so be it. I drafted Wentz in FF to backup Rodgers who is now my QB. How’s Kuechly doing? He might retire. Too many concussion yet Ryan’s knee is the end. It’s not a science. Hope for the best.

  69. olddolphan says:

    SON-OF-A-SON: I PROMISE to never sink a 2-banker kiss-in shot the rest of my life!! I’m getting a little to old to do this 8-ball thing!!

  70. Man, there’s just no discounting intelligence at the qb position

  71. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    October 23, 2017 at 9:51 pm
    I’m not making a case to the coach….lol
    It’s just my observation and my opinions

    That throw to Stills was no different that the throw to Parker in the chargers game

    I don’t think anything yesterday supported your theory that he was injured in the first month…
    ———-
    It’s not about ME, nor MY theory that Cutler may have been nursing an injury in the first month. It’s absolutely ABOUT that Cutler showed his arm off yesterday for the first time in approximately a month.

    I was about to write Cutler off as dead, but I was truly mistaking when I should have TRUSTED Coach Gase all along… Cutler’s arm is finally BACK after having gone MIA for a month.

    Pig, you sound as though you are still second-guessing 4-2 Gase… against ALL odds.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You are the one suggesting Cutler was injured and yesterday was an example of a healing arm

      Not Gase

      That’s you. Gase has never said this.

      Gase stuck with Cutler through the first 6 games
      We don’t know if he would have stuck with him in a 7th.
      We don’t know what he will do when cutler is healthy.

  72. My prediction for the 2nd half of the season is Asiata explodes onto the scene at LG and becomes a pancake machine

  73. mf13ss says:


    ———-
    Jay Cutler was even better than this yesterday.

  74. What a play by Wentz. What a play!

  75. Yeah, we can debate qb’s all night but we’ll just go with Mr. Toethumb Chickenlegs again next season.

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  77. Tim Knight says:

    Wentz is the real deal. Cleveland is the team that fucked up. WR Corey Coleman over taking Wentz at #2?

  78. Tim Knight says:

    If only we drafted all the best prospects every year we’d be great. LOL

  79. Mike E. says:

    Oh boy, was so sorely missed . . .

  80. ocalarob says:

    I actually think the trade down with philly was good, we got alonso,maxwell and Tunsil out of that deal

  81. ocalarob says:

    I’m glad we’re thru with Gag Green this season, they are saying they gave that game away? we didn’t win it they lost it. BS.

    • Mike E. says:

      They can say whatever they want, we all saw it, and we won, they lost. Usually, a team has to lose it for another team to win it.

  82. The Flying Pig says:

  83. The Flying Pig says:

    We just released Maxwell to sign David Fales

  84. Rhino says:

    my 2 cents on the “QB” situation (that’s all the time I can spare this a.m.):

    Winning is a euphoric drug! Watching the comeback really gets the “hope” alive. Casks of Kool-aid were flowing into gluttonous goblets.

    That said, and with time to re-watch the game, a comment by the booth that stuck out on Sunday was that Cutler is just now getting to the equivalence of having a full training camp. A healthy O-line and I can see Cutler playing very well.

    Finally, the need to switch to Moore may have turned out to be a stroke of LUCK for us. The style of play changed, and Jets pass rush couldn’t adjust. Short week to Ravens … hopefully Moore’s got a little momentum and he’ll be one of the freshest set of legs on the field for us.

  85. ocalarob says:

    I liked Fales better than Doughty

  86. sb7mvp says:

    Hey guys I would like some attention. Can you give me any?

  87. ocalarob says:

    I read the reason Maxwell was in the doghouse was because he was not executing the assignments given to him, that’s a good reason to get him off the field!

  88. Tim Knight says:

    Wow Maxwell must have really frustrated the coaches. He was not playing well though.

    • Mike E. says:

      Someone will pick him up, it’s a CB needy league. You’re right though, he must have pissed Gase off big time for them to cut him

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He didn’t listen to them when they demanded press coverage

      They needed to cut some one to sign a qb in case Moore gets hurt or benched
      Maxwell Seems like a prime candidate to me
      You already spent the cap room for a player benched
      Makes no difference if you spend it on a player waived instead

  89. manitobafinfan says:

    So to paraphrase; Maxwell Fales !!! 😎🏈

  90. manitobafinfan says:

    Thanx Mike. We did as well. Hoping not to be sick fir a week after landing lol

  91. stangerx says:

    Maxwell was gone next year anyhow…..he must be hating Tank like Ivana does Marla Maples though.

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    Tim
    If Moore plays really poorly I wouldn’t rule out Fales
    But do I think that will happen – no, it would have to be a really bad game for Moore

    I’m just saying the team has to be ready and needed to sign a 3rd qb

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah we needed another active QB. It seems that Doughty is not looked at as an option. Maybe he’s good at running the scout team and that’s what his purpose is.

  93. Mike E. says:

    Rob

    How did your golf tournament go?

  94. Mike E. says:

    Toba

    We have to wait until Week 9 for McDonald, because we had our BYE Week 1

  95. ocalarob says:

    Birdie pool = All the players contribute a certain amount of $$, that money is then divided by the amount of birdies made after the round is over, each birdie pays that divided amount so if you make a birdie you win $$$, I didn’t make any birdies that day so i contributed.

    • Mike E. says:

      Gotcha

    • stangerx says:

      And I am guessing having that chance means that any guys out of the running for low score start banging the heck off the tee on the longer holes on the back 9.

      • ocalarob says:

        We’re all definitely on a birdie hunt, we have front and back total score winners as well but most of the money pays out in skins, when you make birdie you are automatically in the birdie pool but if no one else birdies that hole you win the hole as well and that is a skin that pays great!

      • stangerx says:

        How do skins play out when you have 20 guys going…Is that just in your four-some?

  96. Mike E. says:

    Tim

    Just mentioned it because if we had our BYE week in Week 11 like we were supposed to, McDonald would be back next week.

  97. The Flying Pig says:

  98. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I’ve been out of the country the last couple of weeks. Only saw the final score and read the internet. Kudos to the phins for sticking together and winning those games. Probably the worst to weeks to miss the games 😦

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