Dolphins 2018 – Who do we re-sign, cut or restructure?

San Francisco 49ers v Miami Dolphins

WR Jarvis Landry

I keep seeing things like “He’s going to cost too much, we shouldn’t pay him more than $10M per year” and many sentiments similar to that.  I have to say, I completely disagree.  We finally got a draft pick right.  Landry performed from the word go.  No need for patience with the rookie, give him a few years to develop, he’s still learning, maybe he doesn’t practice well, blah blah blah.  Hell no, this kid had it from the start, and never stopped.  400 receptions in 4 years.  Is that not production?  Some will point to the fact that his YPC average is really low.  Ya think!!  Is it his fault he catches most of his passes near the LOS?  He’s doing what he’s being asked to do.  He was targeted 570 times!  Is there another player on this team we want to target that much?  Is there another player on this team that will be on the field enough to get that many targets?  The guy catches just about everything thrown to him, and the biggest knock on the kid is that he doesn’t score TD’s.  Well, this year he scored 9 TD’s, which is truly elite.  Only  WR’s DeAndre Hopkins and Davante Adams at 13 and 10 respectively, and TE Jimmy Graham TE, who also had 10 TD’s caught more TD’s than Landry.

Landry scoring 9 TD’s is pretty remarkable, because this kid scores TD’s differently than Kenny Stills, who is usually wide open because he blew past the DB.  Landry will catch the ball on a screen, or over the middle, and have to tear through, around and over a bunch of defenders most of his trips to the end zone.  He’s relentless after the catch, he fights tooth and nail for every yard.   Is he perfect?  His enthusiasm and competitiveness sometimes get the best of him.  You know what?  I’ll take a player like that over a guy who just goes through the motions and collects paychecks every day of the week.  Like I said, we finally NAILED a draft pick, and it’s hilarious that I hated the pick from the beginning.  Chalk that up to my ignorance of what kind of player Landry is.  He’s an emotional player, a leader by example, and I love the way he plays the game.  Yes, he needs to cut down on penalties, but again, fiery competitors walk that fine line, but possibly as he matures, he can tame his bad decisions.  I think we have to sign Landry, it would be a damn shame to let a guy that has actually produced, and produced in spades for our team, when we have so many that haven’t done 1/2 of what Landry has done, and that’s the real problem.  It’s not paying a lot of money for the guys who deserve it, it’s paying a lot of money, or maybe even average money for guys who don’t.  He’s not the problem, Landry is part of the solution.  If you feel like we can’t cut Suh, then you have to feel like we must re-sign Jarvis Landry.  Of course, it’s going to come down to $$$, as it always does, and be a combination of how much Miami is willing to allocate to the WR position and a slot receiver, and how much Jarvis Landry is willing to work with Miami and compromise, and how much another team is willing to fork over for one of the most productive WR’s in the game.  RE-SIGN

RT Ja’Wuan James

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I remember the 2014 NFL draft very well.  Dennis Hickey (The Silver Fox) was our GM, and man, we needed help on the O-line, because we always need help on the O-line.  This pick I had nailed down right for once in my life.  Many experts said Ja’Wuan James was a 2nd RD pick, but I knew when #19 rolled around, we were taking James.  His first season in 2014 was pretty impressive.  In case you forgot, James was our starting RT from Game 1, until LT Branden Albert went down for the year with a knee injury, and James slid over to the LT spot for the rest of the season, and amazingly, did so with great success.  As you all know, it’s not an easy task to ask any player to switch sides on the O-line, especially OT’s, and James was a rookie.  The knock on James, and it’s legitimate, is that he has played only 2 full seasons, his rookie season in ’14, and again in ’16, but James missed 9 games in 2015 with a toe injury, and then a hamstring injury this past season forced him to miss 8 games.

To further complicate the issue, the Dolphins had picked up James’ 5th year option last year, and it’s a somewhat hefty price tag.   Not outrageous for a quality OT, which I believe James is, but you can’t call him a durable one.  James is owed $9.34M next season, but if they cut him before June, they don’t take any cap hit at all.  If they cut him past June, Miami would absorb his full salary towards the cap.  It won’t be an easy decision, but like Landry, I think we got this one right.  James is a good, not great OT, but when he’s healthy, he’s a guy that you set and forget. Personally, I hope they rip up that contract, and sign him to a new deal that’s more cap friendly, because I’d hate to let go of our own players, especially young talented players.  You know how Dolphins fans lament that we have no one on the roster for far too many draft classes when Jeff Ireland was here, so why work towards that end?  RE-SIGN

OC Mike Pouncey

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It’s hard to think of letting a Pro Bowl caliber OL go from a team that is struggling to piece together a solid O-line in what seems like an annual ritual for the last decade or so.  In fact, Mike Pouncey, he of the well documented degenerative hip issue, 3 hip surgeries behind him, played a full season, all 16 games in 2017.  The level of how he played is a mixed bag of opinions.  In general, commentators tend to go by reputation, so whenever Pouncey is referred to during a game, it’s usually garnished with past accolades, and rarely do they shine a negative light on the former Pro Bowler.  Fans, however, at least some of them feel like Pouncey is a shell of what he was, and to further elaborate, some felt he was a “soft” player from the start, and a guy who never matched up well with bigger, stronger interior defenders.  Then you have Head Coach Adam Gase, who is effusive with praise for Pouncey, and obviously, what he thinks is paramount, especially compared to us know-it-all fans, and know-it-all beat writers.

It seems to me that Gase will be making that decision for us, and it will most likely be not cutting Mike Pouncey, despite the fact that Pouncey is owed $9M next season, and only $2M of it would be the dead cap hit if we cut him.  Like our resident O-line expert Randy says, Pouncey will be back, it’s too much to expect a high level of play from a rookie OC, and therefore, he will be back.  NO CUT

OLB Lawrence Timmons

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Mr. AWOL is almost certainly going to be a FA in 2018, and I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if Timmons goes back to his former team of 10 seasons, the Pittsburgh Steelers.  Due to the fact that Timmons was suspended by the club for violating team rules, the guaranteed aspect of the 2nd year of his contract was voided, meaning  the $7.25M salary that Timmons would be commanding, and more importantly, the the $8.225M that would have been a dead cap hit if we cut him is now off the books.  Timmons had an uneven season, and the youth movement at LB is real, Raekwon McMillan, Stephone Anthony, Chase Allen,  and even Kiko Alonso is only 26, so I’m afraid it’s clear The Dolphins will bid adieu to Mr. Timmons.  CUT

QB Ryan Tannehill

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This is a strange set of circumstances for Tannehill in 2018.  Tannehill went down with a knee injury in game 13 of the 2016 season.  He elected at the time to not have surgery to repair the partially torn ACL ligament, and sprained MCL in his left knee.  He decided rehabbing, and strengthening the muscle surrounding the knee would suffice, and that decision backfired on both he and the Dolphins this season, when Tannehill collapsed in a heap in a non-contact play in a practice on August 3rd,  as he scrambled towards the right sideline.  This time, the partially torn ligament was now completely torn, and reconstructive surgery was a necessity, not just an option.  So on August 17th 2017, Tannehill had the surgery, and the latest reports were that Tannehill is already running (in a straight line).  That’s good news, but should the Dolphins be cautious and not put all their eggs into one basket, hoping that Ryan Tannehill will be healthy enough to play similar to the QB that played to 100+ QB rating from game 6 to the game he was injured in in week 13, an 8 game stretch?

That’s the conundrum the Dolphins face.  Ryan Tannehill could do what Tom Brady has done for years, help his team “cook the books” and help the Dolphins out of a shortage of cap money, considering he currently will be making $19.8M in 2017, but the Dolphins do have an escape hatch, as he only carries a $4.6M dead cap hit.  Will Tannehill be willing to restructure his deal, and will the Dolphins ask him to?  Will the Dolphins, who choose at #11 in the 2018 draft find his replacement there, or possibly in RD 2 at pick #42?  Let’s say just for fun, the Dolphins take a QB either at #11, or #42, what do we with Ryan Tannehill?  Does Tannehill start in ’18, and let the rookie sit and learn for a season, or do we look to trade Tannehill?  I think trading Tannehill could only be done after extensive exposure, meaning getting through training camp, and the preseason looking fresh, and athletic, playing well, and not showing any signs of favoring his knee, or looking less nimble.  After all, who would trade for a QB coming off an injury without knowing he was healthy and capable?

I think Ryan Tannehill will be our QB in 2018, and if he’s healthy and plays well, for years after that too.  I think Gase believes in Ryan, and I think Ryan believes with Gase, he can play his best football.  Regardless, if Ryan can help us by redoing his contract to make it more cap friendly, I think he should do it, and I believe he would do it.  At least I hope so.  RESTRUCTURE

TE Julius Thomas

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If you’re a regular reader here, you know well how badly I crave a top talent at the TE position for our team.  After watching Julius Thomas toil for one season in 2017 here with Miami, it’s clear he’s not part of that conversation. Thomas is due a hefty $6.5M next season, but Miami can cut him and only suffer a $2M dead cap hit.  While he wasn’t exactly awful, he was so far from being an effective receiver that threatened the seam, and terrorized LB’s and safeties.  He was as pedestrian as possible, finishing with 41 receptions for 388 yards and 3 TD’s, with 9.46YPR.  That’s fine for a 2nd TE, if he could block, but Thomas just can’t do that, so this one is easy enough for me not to waste much time or space on.  One caveat, he is one of Gase’s guys, but nonetheless, it’s time to say BYE-BYE.  CUT

WR Leonte Carroo

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Take a good look at this picture, because I’m sure many of you, like myself, don’t even know what Leonte Carroo looks like, or what number he wears, or whether he can run a concise route tree, or catch a 50/50 ball, because we rarely see this guy on game day. So, Leonte Carroo III (as I call him), not because he’s the 3rd generation Leonte Carroo, but jokingly, like his predecessor,  RB Daniel Thomas , otherwise know as DT3, because it took 3 picks to acquire both of these rare, yet seldom used talents.  OK, enough of the dripping sarcasm, but really, what’s the deal with this guy?  The front office, hopefully along with HC Adam Gase went great guns after him, trading back into the 3rd RD of the 2016 NFL Draft and forfeiting additional picks in the 3rd and 4th RD of the 2017 NFL draft, so they must have felt pretty strong that he would be an impact player for our offense.  After 2 seasons, the story tells otherwise, with Carroo reeling in a total of 10 receptions, not yet eclipsing 100 yards, and 1 TD.

Carroo has 2 years remaining on his contract, and because he was a 3rd RD pick, it’s pretty inexpensive at $826K this season, and $916K in 2019, and then he is an URFA in 2020.  Logic says he will be on the roster to see if he can be more than he has, but the fact that he was surpassed already by fellow WR Jakeem Grant, who was a 6th RD pick in 2016 doesn’t bode well for Carroo.  I do think Carroo will have to make strides in ’18, he’s not going to be kept around here if he doesn’t show any signs that he can be more than what he’s been, which is simply disappointing.  NO CUT  (At least until after the preseason)

DE William Hayes

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William Hayes was stopped in a Turkish Airport with 4 pounds of hashish in 1970.  The movie Midnight Express depicts the entire story, although according to Hayes, Director Oliver Stone embellished quite a bit, and much to Hayes dismay, portrayed the Turkish people, and justice system unfairly.  Oh, wait, not that William Hayes, I meant the free agent DE who played for the Dolphins!  Hayes was excellent in the DL rotation, and as he was in his entire career, with the Titans and the Rams, he was excellent run defender and edge setter.  His stats last year don’t jump off the page, but Hayes is a very good player that the Dolphins should bring back.

Hayes played in 10 games for the Dolphins, before being put on IR with a back injury.  Hayes is a strong veteran presence that our young DL can learn from.  I think the odds are pretty good that we draft a DE somewhere in this draft, and Hayes would be a great mentor, and someone to learn from.  Hayes will be 33 next season, so I would expect another 1 YR contract for him if we sign him. Thanks M!   RE-SIGN

 

 

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567 Responses to Dolphins 2018 – Who do we re-sign, cut or restructure?

  1. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    David, am I doing it right? I don’t see how I can make any money off of this!

  2. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Just looking at some different mocks albeit early, it seems there is a chance Nelson could be off the board when we pick. A few mocksters have us taking LB Roquan Smith

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      I don’t care who they pick. As long as he makes an impact! Need playmakers on this team….lots of them.
      Landry and Drake are only ones on offense. Who on defense? NOBODY!

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        Now would a G be a playmaker? Nope. But if he is the guy that gives the QB an extra second or opens that hole, then I’m down for that.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Howard and Jones and at times everyone chips in on defense. I think we had a lot of new on defense and never quite got to where they could have been but the offense was so bad, they had to play from behind all the time. I’m also for adding the BPA which seems to get a bad rap as if best player available doesn’t make sense. LOL

        It all comes down to what do we now have after FA and the draft, not just #11.

  3. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    HAPPY B-DAY, OLD DOLFAN!

    Excellent write at 9:22 AM, Mr. Campbell. Today is, indeed, a very special day… and all the better since you were born on this day. Kick back, relax, and treat yourself to a ‘Colorado Kool-Aid’ later. And before you blow out those B-Day candles (if ya haven’t already), make a wish that our O-Line FINALLY gets fixed in ’18. Have a GRAND new year, my friend!

  4. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    ER, OL don’t get playmaker titles but they do get impact player titles for the exact reason you stated. You have to be solid up front on both sides of the ball or you’re going to have issues regardless of your playmakers.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Yeah. That’s why I’m ok with OL at #11. But if not… they better hit on a stud.

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        Last 5 1st rounders…… only 2 of them any good.
        Harris: did very little, but we’ll hope he gets better.
        Tunsil: penalty leader, but we’ll hope he gets better
        Parker: that’s a miss in my book….. well hope he gets better.
        James: average but sometimes very good.
        Jordan: cough cough…..

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        At the end of the day is did they add impact players or maybe even someone special, and did they address – OL, TE, pass rush and depth at QB, RB and LB. I’m probably more optimistic about LB than many others because many fans, media and mocks have us needing a LB. I think a lot of it was about chemistry, many of them never played together. I also view McMillan as a good young LB prospect already in the mix and to a degree Anthony only being 26 when camp starts with 3 years experience. I think the group should be better in 2018 with more experience and chemistry.

  5. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    For the love of God. Please let them get Mike E his TE!!

    Lol.

  6. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    ER, I’ve always thought Harris needed time to learn and get bigger and stronger. But I see potential there for sure. Hayes and Branch dealing with injuries increased his playing time and that wasn’t the plan. Not a lot went right this year.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Got that right. It was one thing after another for sure. Crazy…..

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        It was crazy! Like really now this, over and over. I’m writing it off and not looking at the team as a 6-10 team because at full strength we’re better than that. But some shit has to change. The penalties and dumb mistakes only added to the crazy season.

  7. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Matt Miller

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    Mock Draft Monday. My first two-rounder of the season.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2753823-2018-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-latest-picks-entering-afc-nfc-title-games?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
    ———-
    So much for Dorance Armstrong Jr. getting to us on day 3… sheesh!

  8. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Well actually in this highlight real he looks awesome

    I know everyone does – but that looks like a LB!

  9. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero

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    New….Miami Dolphins make another coaching staff change — the fifth so far this offseason
    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article194816279.html

  10. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I would love that draft — OLB Tremaine Edmunds in the first and TE Dallas Goedert in the second.

    I’d follow that up with an OG such as Will Hernandez or Billy Price and then RB Rashaad Penny and C Bradley Bozeman or Will Clapp or TE Hayden Hurst or ILB Leighton Vander Esch LOL (so greedy)

  11. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy Birthday OD hope you had a wonderful MLK day

  12. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tremaine Edmunds wow what a highlight reel. Man does he play squared up and fast. What an addition he’d be, he’d be the Timmons we hoped we were getting.

    In that mock the 2 picks after him are Nelson then Mayfield. There’d be some serious moaning leaving those two on the board more so Nelson with this group.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      His brother also plays at VT and he is a safety
      He is expected by some to be a day 2 pick

      would be really cool if we took the Edmunds Brothers and became “The Killer E’s” or something like that

  13. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Didn;t work out like I had hoped
    but
    11: R1P11
    LB ROQUAN SMITH
    GEORGIA
    42: R2P10
    C BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE
    73: R3P9
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP
    113: R4P11
    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STATE
    132: R4P30
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA
    187: R6P9
    TE DURHAM SMYTHE
    NOTRE DAME
    224: R7P5
    RB KAMRYN PETTWAY
    AUBURN
    230: R7P11
    CB ED PARIS
    LSU

  14. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Mike, nice article above,
    I’m not sure Grant passed Caroo on the depth chart, i think Grant is more of a speed guy like the guy in front of him Stills where Caroo is more of a possession rec behind Landry and Parker IMO Caroo has to be able to beat out Landry and Parker to get on the field so maybe that’s why we see Grant out there and not Caroo.

    as for Jarvis Landry, he’s a great player, gives you 110% every play and we should resign him, BUT! he doesn’t have separation ability, he’s a guy that will out hustle you not out run you so that makes his skill set limited. how much is that worth? he may be worth 8 mil per season not the double figures he may be seeking. That said now you have to factor in how he and Gase got into an argument on the sideline, how Gase threw him under the bus for the Buffalo ejection and didn’t lump drake in with that convo. to me that’s very telling. the writing is on the wall say goodbye to Jarvis, he’ll probably be a patriot next year just like Welker.

    I’m not so sure about Pouncey? we’ve had serviceable centers replace Pouncey when he was injured and not at a tremendous Salary, he may be good but has proven over the years to be unreliable due to his hip. i would look elsewhere to not only save $$ but also improve the reliability of the center position however i don’t think Gase feels the same way and i do think Pouncey will be on this team next year.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Thanks Rob, and you’re right about the depth chart. I just meant he saw more playing time, which in and of itself, for whatever reason drives me crazy, whether it should or not.

  15. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    What’s up people’s? Good write up Mike.

  16. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Ian Rapoport
    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet
    Big news for #Stanford: RB Bryce Love, who would’ve been one of the draft’s top players, is coming back to school, via @tomgfitzgerald. Word was he really liked the school part of school.

  17. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Gase has been doing a lot of roster turnover…..on the coaching roster. I don’t follow position coaches much, but according to Mando most of them are holdovers from the Philbin era. Might not get as much attention as trading Ajayi, but one similar theme. If it wasn’t before, Gase’s team now no matter what happens.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      As a first time HC he retained some coaches/trainers already here. Not uncommon to see changes down the road. The Packers just turned over some coaches and personnel people including Philbin back as OC.

  18. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I read that some scouts think Tremaine Edmunds has the most upside of all the LBs in this class.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I wouldnt want him manning the inside, so he wouldnt be as position flexible as i think they want to be at LB. We werent really there with Timmons either, but he did give us the ability to play the Mike and Sam, where i see Edmunds as probably more just Sam, maybe Will. I dont think he would be a good inside LB, which makes him less effective for us because we really need Mike role to be something any of them can manage from time to time to really get the packages we want. This could all change a ton though if we decide to do the hybrid S/LB thing with McDonald, but without a pretty good FS i just dont see us being able to pull that scheme off.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The hybrid S/LB thing with McDonald is in nickel, not base unless that’s what you mean. He has the size to still play the run and drop in coverage.

  19. D's avatar D says:

    We actually were targeting Myles Jack in the draft. They said they were trying to get a deal together to trade up and get him with Baltimore, but whatever reason the Jags got the deal with them. You will see that we still wound up trading with them to move us and take Howard just a few picks later, so it does seem to confirm we had been in talks with them and that’s why the second deal went through so quickly. I still feel we could have made the same pick from our spot, but i guess if you have a team there ready to deal and you feel good about the guy, take bird in the hand. Sad to think though we missed out on him, especially in the second when he was considered an early half first before injury concerns crept in.

  20. D's avatar D says:

    I dont think Love would have been a first round pick, i think part of it is to take a chance to be a first, even if likely he had second and for sure 3rd round sewed up. I think Guice has always been the better prospect, because there are elements of Guice’s game that say more reliably a 3 down back, where as Love seems to me less likely to handle the rigors of any sort of middle rushing scheme. Love would be excellent in some systems, but definitely not all system. Guice is going to be more like Dalvin Cook and therefore useful in any scheme.

  21. D's avatar D says:

    Mike, good article and analysis, or at least i feel i agree with all of those sentiments.

    I think you could put Wake on there for restructure too, and not in the bad way a lot of us have come to believe a restructure is. Since its not loss of money (just shifting it around), and the players generally get more guarantees out of it, players like Wake who are aging really should consider restructures so 1) they can get more insurance over injury through the guarantees, and 2) they can hopefully allow the team to move money around and keep players that hopefully help the team remain strong enough to challenge for playoffs and a Superbowl. The one thing Wake doesn’t have is a lot of that happening in his career, so that has to be big on his agenda radar.

    Id call the Timmons cut a late cut too and maybe just a possible cut, just because i think we have to secure either a S to allow us to move McDonald down and alter our defense not to need a guy like him, or we draft or secure another LB from FA. Either of those happen and Timmons can be cut, until then we need him for continuity, even if/when we get McMillan back.

  22. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Miami Guice

  23. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    The hybrid S/LB thing with McDonald is in nickel, not base unless that’s what you mean. He has the size to still play the run and drop in coverage.
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    You can play it as your base, and it can be adapted to the wide 9 pretty easily too. You would just need two strong tacklers to man what amounts to just 2 LB spots and they would need to be pretty athletic guys with decent coverage skills but it kind of cuts down on that been such a strong need. My vision for it is similar to how they use Barron in LA, which isnt a package substitution its more their base package.

    • D's avatar D says:

      If McMillian comes back 100% he and Alonzo could play the LB roles in what im thinking about and they would shift into and out of the Mike role when they shifted around to match whatever the DL was doing. Id also really still have 3 LB’s on the field, as one of my DE’s would be a hybrid DE/LB role, what a lot of teams call the Leo, which could be using in any number of ways to adjust to down and distance scenarios.

  24. I’m not buying the position flexibility thing at LB. How many teams have 3 really good linebackers let along 3 who can play multiple positions within their scheme?

    You have 3 guys who are really good at what they do why do you want to fuck around with it and move guys around?

    Name the teams who have defenses where they play their LB’s at multiple spots

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Lot’s of LBs are versatile. Sure you’d like to have a set group, but just like on the OL you want some guys to be able to play multiple positions when there are injuries etc.

  25. According to Walter Football the team interviewed Ralph Webb today.

  26. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I think the best case scenario would be if Alonso, McMillan and Anthony were our starting 3 if we moved on from Timmons. Meaning players already on board. Allen provides depth. Hewitt and Hull are RFAs so who knows whether we bring them back or not. So we’ll definitely be in the market for more LBs.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Alonso wasn’t very impressive last season

      Maybe it’s a different story when McMillan is in

      It seemed like Anthony was playing a lot on 3rd down towards the end of the season and doing a better job than his predecessors

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Like I’ve said before our LB unit was pretty new with only Alonso, Hewitt and Hull having played together before. I saw a lot of miscommunication from that group as we plugged in Timmons, Maualuga once he got into shape, rookie UDFA Allen and then adding Anthony after the season started. It’s been reported that Alonso had to make up for mistakes from others and I saw it a bunch of times where he looked like WTF who’s covering so and so? We’ll see but Alonso isn’t going anywhere.

  27. D's avatar D says:

    Walter Football has our picks like this:
    Walter
    Denzel Ward CB Ohio St
    Hayden Hurst TE South Carolina
    Sione Tehuema LB SELU
    Sean Welsh G/C Iowa
    Josh Adams RB ND

    Charlie
    Quenton Nelson OG ND
    Hayden Hurst TE South Carolina
    Ronald Jones II RB USC
    (he doesnt have a 4 round done yet)

    As usual i really like Charlie’s best, but Walter’s isnt too bad. I would have liked a better OL selection from Walters, though Welsh isnt a bad selection in the 4th. I also think Ward at pick 11 is a pretty sizable overdraft and even as a need pick, we have stronger needs on the OL, and probably at LB and TE over CB. With McGlinchey, Derwin James, Calvin Ridley (if we find ourselves needs a Landry replacement), and Roquan Smith still on the board, i just cant see the selection of Ward over them. I actually like the Sione Teheuma pick over going RB like Charlie did in his. Ronald Jones in the 3rd isnt a bad pick, but id much rather taken another player (there were several i would have had ranked above Jones.That pick just seemed to be a little bit forcing a RB at pick 3 instead of taking BPA and letting the draft give you someone else in a later round, there were still a bunch of talented RB’s left.

  28. D's avatar D says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    I’m not buying the position flexibility thing at LB. How many teams have 3 really good linebackers let along 3 who can play multiple positions within their scheme?

    You have 3 guys who are really good at what they do why do you want to fuck around with it and move guys around?

    Name the teams who have defenses where they play their LB’s at multiple spots
    —————————————–
    There are a bunch, Pats do it all the time, Collins played at both OLB spots and was the Mike at times. We do it a lot. Its more common than uncommon these days for a 4-3 defense, especially one that plays agressive and fast attack style, to not have their LB’s float around. Seattle does it quite a bit too.

    • D's avatar D says:

      3-4 defenses are pretty static with their LB’s, 4-3’s are mostly fluid now, with some exceptions. Houston moves theirs around a lot too. Im actually trying to think of a 4-3 that doesn’t move them around and im having a hard time thinking of one and every time i think i have one i remember they are 3-4.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Besides, its not my belief, its what Burke said, so again, if you think he is a liar, then i see why you dont agreee, but im taking him at his word.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I think he means he doesn’t buy it from the coaches

        I.e. the Dolphins don’t want to publicly say “we are fucked when it comes to linebacker”

  29. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    I think the best case scenario would be if Alonso, McMillan and Anthony were our starting 3 if we moved on from Timmons. Meaning players already on board. Allen provides depth. Hewitt and Hull are RFAs so who knows whether we bring them back or not. So we’ll definitely be in the market for more LBs.
    ————————————–
    Its more gamble doing it that way. Anthony performed pretty well the limited amount he was in there but its not enough of a confidence builder to me to think we dont need insurance. I think we cant have 100% confidence in McMillian, i mean yes, we thought he was going to start, but that just meant he beat out Allen for the starting gig, it doesnt mean that we expected him to hit the ground playing like a superstar, so no time at the position this year means to me, he still is a ? and means Timmons is needed as insurance, unless we want to find ourselves in a less than predictable situation.

    With Timmons we can almsot certainly envision our LB unit, despite what weakness it would have. With McMillian and/or Anthony its more of a well i think we could get this level of production (which might be better than anything we could hope for from Timmons) but thats on the optimistic side of things, the mirror of that viewpoint is we wind up being worse than expected, and now dont have a safety net.

    If we drafted a guy, especially early, or picked up a FA, i think i would say, between McMillian, Anthony, Allen and new guy, we will find a possible replacements for Timmons. With those odds of finding 1 out of 4 that can at least give us his production, i think we would be safe to cut him.Im not as comfortable with 1 out of 3, especially when 2 of them are essentially rookies.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      D, I was saying it as if they emerged as the best LBs because they were playing well. Not just making them starters because they’re already on the team. Similar to the secondary, Howard, Tankersley, McCain, Lippett, Jones and McDonald would be the best case scenario as our top 6 DBs. From a chemistry perspective, not that a new player couldn’t crack the lineup.

  30. drg's avatar drg says:

    Nice job, Mike. I am curious what the word on Suh is? He played well, but that’s a huge cap number we could and probably should get off the books if the repercussions aren’t too great.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      $22.2M dead cap, not happening. Next year $13.1M dead cap, not happening His best out before being a UFA in 2021 is 2020 with $4M dead cap.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Whether he is worth it is debatable, but Suh is on the team next year unless traded with how his contract is structured (and they did a re-do on it).

  31. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  32. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    11: R1P11
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME
    42: R2P10
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    S. CAROLINA
    73: R3P9
    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON ST.
    113: R4P11
    TE MIKE GESICKI
    PENN ST.
    132: R4P30
    RB AKRUM WADLEY
    IOWA
    187: R6P9
    LB SKAI MOORE
    S. CAROLINA
    224: R7P5
    S TREY MARSHALL
    FSU
    230: R7P11
    G MAEA TEUHEMA
    SOUTHEASTERN LOUISI

    I just missed on some good RBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
    So I settled on the Iowa little back and hoped to get the big ASU RB late but then he went off the board before my 6th rounder ☹️

    I did get a good couple of TEs, a qb worth developing, Skai Moore my S/LB hybrid and of course Nelson in the 1st 😝

  33. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:
    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If we make it through the 4th round without taking a RB we may be able to get this guy with a 5th (if we obtain one) or later

      • D's avatar D says:

        He’s on my list of late round options. I think you would have to use a 6th, though he may gone in the 5th. He would be a grinder option, but i doubt we would ever see more contribution out of him than snaps to run out games and hammer out a few tough yards here or there. Id rather have Scarborough because there is just a lot more to work with and a lot more elitie talent, but as a fallback option, he’s a solid one.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I would rather have scarborough too

        frankly I would rather have Chubb or Royce too but if we take other positions early there might be some day 3 talent at RB to help Drake out

  34. D's avatar D says:

    Maybe if we are lucky both the Tehuema brothers will be there in the 4th and we could take both of them with back to back picks. Sione is a OLB/DE guy who projects kind of like a Harris type of player, which his brother Maea is an OG who projects a lot like Will Clapp to be honest, with exception of i dont know that Tehuema has any experience at OC. Both those guy project as day 2 selections, though due to them finishing up at SELU after losing their scholarship at LSU, they may drop further. Their combine interviews probably make a big determination of that, because i hear that most scouts and even the staff at LSU have little bad to say about them and dont act as if what they lost the scholarship for was a bad character issue.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Looks like both were academic violations, one that was cited as violation of team rules (referenced in an article as academic in nature) and the other was straight up academic. Both transferred for their last year at SELU and played really well there.

  35. D's avatar D says:

    Suh is absolutely worth the money. DT’s dont get gawdy stats, but his presence is felt on that field every snap, and teams have to put resources to just manage him the best they can. He is as disruptive as any player on defense, and absolutely would kill our defense to lose him. I honestly cant understand after these years playing here there is still debate on this. I think its possible that they can pull a restructure with him, and move money around again, but if ya do that all you wanna cut him guys are just delaying the chance to do it, as each re-structure is going to come with more guarantees and those guarantees will just be rolled down another year.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      My thought on this is release his cap to do what, pay a bunch of middle of the road FAs the money? Keep building through the draft and don’t worry about Suh. We’ll have enough cap space to address some need areas in FA.

      We also tend to forget in the offseason that young players already on the team should get better. So we’re always trying to fill more holes then we actually have.

  36. D's avatar D says:

    A LB prospect im pretty shocked isnt getting more attention, especially after Zach Cunningham and his success is Oren Burkes the current ILB for Vandy. He got a lot of what Cunningham did but with a little bit better size to him. His coverage ability is pretty solid too. Probably would take our 3rd round pick to get him, with some outside chance of him falling to the 4th, but 3rd even feels iffy to me once people start to really hone in on his tape, which is kinda how i feel about Ralph Webb, also a Vandy Commodore.

  37. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Now I want to draft the Teuhuma brothers and the Edmunds brothers just so we can come up with some kind of cool nickname

  38. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Re-sign Williams and draft Jaylen Samuels. RB done! 🙂

  39. D's avatar D says:

    The thing where we were listed as having interviewed Ralph Webb was after the east-west shrine practices which are going on this week. Dont know if this is a coincidence or what, but both of the prospects they interviewed had the last name Webb.

    Ralph Webb 5’10 202 4 year starter, only 2 years were below 1k yards, 830 (this year, though in his defense he was the whole offense this year) and his freshman year, 905. Career avg of about 4.5 a carry and has good blocking and receiving skills.

    Damon Webb 5’11 195 FS 5ints, returned one for a TD and another for close to 50 yards. 2 year starter.

  40. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I don’t think we can trade Suh, like Tim said, there’s still a $22.2M dead cap hit

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      But that assumes that other teams wouldn’t want to pay him what we do. Yes we’d have to eat the pro-rated bonus but we wouldn’t be on the hook for the guaranteed money so long as his contract was transferred. And not saying I even want that, but least the trade is possible while a pure cut is not.

      • D's avatar D says:

        We would be on the hook for the dead cap hit this coming year no matter what, the rest of the contract though we would be able to pass that on to the receiving team as they would pick up the rest of the contract.

      • D's avatar D says:

        It in no way makes any sense what so ever to do this, it slams us cap wise, we lose the centerpiece of our defense, we lose a once in a decade type of player, and why? whats the big push to get rid of him? I really dont see any justification for it or real benefit for doing it. There are several players more rife for being cut, restructured or traded with a lot more potential for those being done to them and yet it keeps coming back to Suh lol.

  41. D's avatar D says:

    Stanger i think the point you are missing is the guaranteed money is guaranteed on the first day of the new league year and since the trading deadline for this year is over, the next time he can be traded is after the new league year has started, so in essence, that guaranteed money is already due to him and the only way it wont be is if the contract gets restructured to switch the years its guaranteed in. Now if ya want to talk him into moving all the guaranteed money into a lump sum payout in 2019 and then trade him, OK then you got yourself a plan, but im pretty sure no one is going to accept that trade knowing that in 2019 they are pretty royally fucked.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      D — I think it makes no sense to cut him, but my impression is that when you trade someone you are the hook capwise for the leftover pro-rated signing bonus but not for any remaining guaranteed money so long at least if the the team you trade the player to pays that.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Tannenbaum signed Suh and Ross loves the guy so there’s that also.

  42. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Every thing is different now. We have Suh. Sorry but he has made no difference and ultimately I think his contract has been waste. We made the playoffs once with him and the defense was pretty mediocre that season. I like Suh. He plays hard but his impact is limited and it’s not like he has been a great clubhouse leader. If we could trade him I would but I am not sure we can

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I don’t think opposing teams would agree his impact is limited. In the big scheme of things he’s one guy. Lots of players make big money and their team’s aren’t good. I don’t think that’s really what it’s about.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Our defense has performed pretty much at the same level it was before Suh arrived and something tells me it will perform at or near the same level after he leaves. If you think he is that important then it doesn’t speak well for the rest of the talent on the D

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        He was brought in as a centerpiece to build around. The defense has had a lot of turnover since we signed Suh in 2015. If you look at our current defense, the only vets who were on the team at that time are Wake and Jones, the other players were mostly rookies and that’s it. The defense has been in transition since then.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      He’s still one of the top players on our team, and he shows no sign of slowing down. Whether we should trade him or depends on how much we could get back and how close you think we are to competing seriously. He’d be a heck of an add for a team that is ready to make that run.

  43. drg's avatar drg says:

    Tim,

    Thanks and I agree… he’s not going anywhere for two years with that type of a cap hit.

    D,

    I agree he is a big part of our defense, but it’s a defense that has ranked at or near the bottom of the league despite his presence. If you look at his Detroit days, the run defense and overall defense was average. I think there’s only been one or two seasons in his career where the team DVOA was top ten. It’s clear that he doesn’t impact the overall play of a defense enough to warrant the kind of money we pay him. He’s a top 5 DT in the league so at least we are getting a really good player for that kind of money.

  44. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Adam Schefter

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    Seahawks officially parted ways with defensive coordinator Kris Richard, and announced they hired Brian Schottenheimer as offensive coordinator, Ken Norton Jr. s defensive coordinator and Mike Solari as offensive line coach.

  45. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Tim:
    When Suh was brought in it wasn’t with the idea that we were going to build around him. The idea was we were going to compete right there and then. Instead we were pretty mediocre, Philbin gets fired, we have coaching change which is why we have personnel changes as we have new coordinators trying to implement their system.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      True that was part of it but he is a center piece player. He can’t make other guys play up to his level. He joined a mediocre team and we also let some guys walk on defense who were either not worth the money, or underperforming. Rather than me typing it, just go look at the 2014 and 2015 rosters. Outside of injuries, which players would you still have here? Then you get the new HC changes. That’s where we are. It’s not Suh’s fault.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        I have yet to see the evidence that he has made anyone better and that goes back to his days in Detroit as DRG pointed out above. I never liked the signing. I have always thought it was too much money for too little impact. Halfway through his contract I have seen no evidence to make me think I was wrong

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Suh is always game planned for. He is disruptive 7 out of every 10 plays from what I see. Just a guesstimate. 🙂

        We weren’t that good on defense before and when he got here and then a lot of turnover happened under a new HC in Gase. I think this current defense has the most potential that we’ve had in years moving forward. The offense fucked the defense all year. If our offense was 2016’s offense we’re in the playoffs again this year. No not just because of Ajayi, Rob. LOL

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        If it was just this season I might agree with you Tim but it has been every season, even in Detroit. I just think it was a poor investment. It doesn’t matter we are stuck with that contract for the time being

  46. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Are we talking about trading the 2017 Miami Dolphins MVP (Ndamukong Suh)? Not going to happen.

  47. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Why not focus on a pretty large group of young players getting better along with some FA and the draft additions, instead of losing our minds over the cap and holes everywhere? LOL

    We don’t need 20 new players this year. We need 10 upgrades throughout. 2 rookie impact players, 3 FA’s who upgrade somewhere, 5 better depth players. Get RT back on track. Some new coaching changes hopefully with some impact insight, and go play. This team isn’t bad, they had a bad year for all sorts of reasons and we all saw it. We can rebound and be a good team in 2018. I believe that. 🙂

  48. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    SMMFH at y’all, knock it off you sound silly

    Suh is staying and Landry will be re-signed

  49. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ken, I never thought we’d go after Suh or land him in 2015 either. But I’ve moved past that. We did sign him, he is a dominant player and I don’t put the team results on him just like I don’t put that on QBs. There is so much that goes into winning in this league and it’s never just a couple of highly paid players. We’ve seen great players on bad teams lose. It doesn’t mean they’re not great players. I think he helped two rookie DTs in Godchaux and Taylor show promise this year if you want some examples. But a lot of it was on them to perform.

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    For me on defense we need to add a DE and LB. We can roll with who we have other wise.

    However on offense we need upgrades and more competition on the OL, youth and depth at TE, probably a WR for depth and the same at RB. The QB situation is a little more complicated based on who’s available. It’s not an easy position to stock up on.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Are Steen and Urbick still in the fold?

      That TE from NE who played the last couple of games is a guy they are supposedly pretty high on.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Steen finished on IR. Urbik was waived/injured before the season started – he was the top backup C and probably would have started at LG with Pouncey ready to go. People forget besides Larsen going on the 8 week IR, we lost Urbik and even Eric Smith who was challenging Sam Young. Leaving us with Bushrod, Steen, Davis (good find), Brendel (solid but under-sized) and Asiata (redshirt season) inside.

        Who’s that TE?

      • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

        AJ Derby

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        We weren’t playing just 2nd teamers at the end, but 3rd and 4th. Used 3 QBs after RT went down. I mean come on! LOL

  51. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t have a Suh jersey so I’m confident he will be here next year

  52. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t get the point of trading guys to free up cap room
    We are just going to spend that $ on other free agents

    We should be keeping our good vets and building through the draft
    Not playing a game of musical free agents

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      If we get 3 guys for the price of one that probably makes the team better as opposed to having just that one guy.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        You have to hit on all three players instead of keeping one you already hit on

        Are those good odds?

        What creating more cap does is it gives you cap room to try again – you only get the chance to try, it doesn’t mean you won’t fail

        And 3 kinda good players isn’t really a good way to build a good defense anyway

        You really need a few blue chip players

  53. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Can we hire kris Richard

  54. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If we address OL in the first and this guy drops to the 2nd
    This is my pick

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Plenty of good backs in the draft. Let us not forget Kenyan Drake when dreaming of new backs. Go back to college and pros to watch his highlights. 😉

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I’m not in favor of using a 2nd bc of the depth at RB

        But I’m saying this guy – he’s a notch better than the rest

        Look at that balance when he runs, look at his ability to stop and change directions

  55. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Son, okay on Derby. I consider him more of a Broncos TE. That’s who waived him when we got him.

  56. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 16, 2018 at 9:12 pm
    Well that should change
    ———-
    Nearly everything is in place to make that change, being we have vacancies at DL coordinator and DB coordinator. Burke is the default LB coordinator.

    If we bring someone new in, they’ll want to form their own ‘band’ (coordinators).

  57. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Piggy:
    I just don’t see what tying up all that money in one player has done for us. What if now we have to let Landry and James walk because we can’t afford them? I think they make a bigger impact than Suh does. I am not saying they are better players but that they impact the game more

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If we let Landry walk it will bc they don’t value Landry (and they will be idiots)

      We signed guys like Branch, Stills and Alonso to hefty contracts with Suh under contract.

      In the current nfl economic mix climate, you are going to tie up a lot of money on a few players and I have no problem with suh as one of those players

      As far as James goes, the tough decision for the team is whether you want to play a RT who’s been good at times but never great the kind of money free agent tackles get

      Suh isn’t keeping us from keeping guys here. Either is Tannehill. Some of the wasted money on average players might be though

      Again I think it’s unrelated to Suhs contract
      If anything investing in players like Branch and Alonso and maybe even McDonald is going to affect other players

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      We are also half way through his contract

      His cap hit goes down in 19
      It’s a big cap hit for ‘18

      What if we have a shit year in 2018
      Then fire Adam Gase – that’s when you start parting ways with your high priced talent

      I doubt Gase would be very excited about having a Rebound year in 2018 after they trade away he team mvp

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        I don’t think he is going anywhere. I just think it was a bad investment and halfway through his contract we are yet to see any dividends from the investment we made in him. We are still pretty much the mediocre defense and team we were before he was here

  58. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    The fact they let go those positional coaches tells me Burke isn’t going anywhere. You get rid of the DC, hire new one and let him decide who stays and goes. JMO

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s not too late to just scrap what they did over the last few weeks and start over!😝

      I sort of expected different changes to the coaching staff and and a little perplexed at what they have done

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I agree… I don’t think Burke’s going anywhere or he’d be gone by now. I’m just saying that the slate is clean for a new DC to bring in his own guys without even having to fire anybody else but Burke at this point.

      I sure hope Burke can find quality positional coordinators, being he’s only been a DC for one year. Most of the tree that he came from are currently employed.

  59. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Draft has me excited. Having a solid group of QBs and a really good pool of elite talent should leave an elite player at 11. I prefer Nelson or Smith but we definitely have some great options.

  60. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So coaches make players who they are? I don’t agree at all. Coaches help bring it all together, not joystick players into having great seasons. LOL

  61. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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    An early look at Dolphins’ free agent options at need positions:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article194964214.html
    ————-
    How about the two LBs mentioned here! 😀

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Once upon a time I wanted to draft Jon Bostic
      He has quietly had a decent career but if he leaves the colts in 18 it will be his 4th team in 5 years which is crazy

  62. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    A poor really really in deep depth man’s Barry Sanders
    Don’t you think?

  63. To answer a question from before, yes, the Webb interview was from the Shrine game.

    2nd, what I’m saying about the LB’s is I’m not buying that you need to have position flexibility at the LB spot. I understand that you may want to blitz a linebacker from the outside or inside from time to time and a LB may be called up to cover rather than just play run but to take a guy who is an excellent MLB and say, “well, he just can’t play any other position for us so we can’t use him” is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

    If a guy can paly the middle like nobody else who gives a shit if he can’t move to SAM or WILL from time to time. Finally, I disagree that Edmunds can’t play in the middle. He’s got the range, the size, strength; he’s the whole package. If you’ve got a good LB coach this is one of three guys I see right now you’re licking your chops over; the other two being Smith and Okoronkwo.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      I would love to get Edmunds. The other two are smallish. Like Alonso and Hewitt. Only better.

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        I also am a little tired of position flex. “Jack of all trades, Master of None” as they say.
        Give me an All Pro OG and never even mention the word tackle or center to him. If we have OT or C injuries, promote the back-up. Heck with a guy who is average at 3 spots.

      • I’m not against ONE smaller guy as long as the entire LB corps isn’t that way. You can run over smaller LB’s like Philly did vs Atlanta. The speed is great with the smaller guys but then you get teams that will take advantage of it and pound you.

        However, Obo is short but he’s not small at 240. He’s got a lot of strength and he’s fast. I’ve seen him down the field in coverage and then almost get back to the qb to disrupt the pass. He doesn’t show it in his forty time but he makes up a lot of ground quickly.

      • I agree with the flexibility on the o-line too. If a guy can play the shit out of any of the positions on the o-line that’s one less spot you’ve got to worry about. You’ve got an elite talent at LT that’s great, at C that’s great.

        The problem with this team is we’ve got guys going down so often we need players who can step in and play different positions. The Vikings had that issue this year with their o-line and I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but I’d agree that you bring in the next man up at that one particular position. You don’t take your elite guard and move him to center if he’s better off playing guard. then you have two weak spots.

  64. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I’m not buying that he is 5’10 but he is an interesting prospect

    He sees the entire field but no one can see him!

    You won’t see it from this highlight clips but he is notably good at pass protection
    https://youtu.be/CYhQ701RPpc

  65. Fletcher Cox gets paid a lot of money for a DT. Suh gets paid a lot of money at DT. I watched Cox play Saturday against Atlanta and, let me say, he is worth the money he gets paid. However, I’m not quite so sure Suh is worth the money he gets paid.

  66. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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    The Dolphins are trying to hire well-regarded Lions DL coach Kris Kocurek after receiving permission to interview him. Kocurek coached Dolphins star Ndamukong Suh for five years in Detroit.

  67. Albert Breer

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    The Dolphins are trying to hire well-regarded Lions DL coach Kris Kocurek after receiving permission to interview him. Kocurek coached Dolphins star Ndamukong Suh for five years in Detroit.

  68. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I think Bradham is good but I’d be afraid he’d pull a Timmons and get all homesick for Philly.

  69. Ha! This is hilarious. Anyone hear that the team has thrown “Jarvis keeps a messy locker” into the mix. That’s fucked.

    Personally, and I’m sure others have said the same thing, I think the team was hoping Parker became the guy he was drafted to be so they could either trade Jarvis for a pick or some talent and it didn’t work out that way so now they’re trying to cover their tracks and make it look like this was the plan all along so they don’t look like a bunch of asses. Too late.

  70. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Pro Lou,

    I like Smith better but all three are good prospects. I don’t see how Smith can’t do what Edmunds can(and same in reverse), but leading the top defense in the top division is a big sell for me. Smith may be gone and make this point moot but I think he is better. I also watched Edmunds be a little slow to diagnose plays against a few of the top teams this year. At no point does he seem to cover well(outside of a few plays) and he doesn’t pursue like Smith. Edmunds does have the size that makes DCs salivate though.

    • There’s some weaknesses in every one of these guys games and that’s why the coaching they get at the next level is important. I’ve not seen the slow to react part of Edmunds game you’re talking about. The guy is another one who is rangy and covers a lot of ground fast. His tall, lanky frame makes him look a bit different from Smith but it amazes me how fast he gets to the ball.

      In any case, I’d be thrilled with any one of these guys. I wish there was a way we could get 2 of the 3. We’d definitely be looking at one of the top LB corps in the league in a year or so.

  71. If the team really wants this position flexibility within their LB corps where does that leave Kiko? He played the middle in ’16 and was then moved outside in ’17 where he didn’t fair as well. So, if they’ve got their MLB in McMillan and Kiko can’t do as well on the outside does that mean he doesn’t fit what we’re trying to accomplish?

    Personally, I like having a true OLB and the two who come to mind are: (you guessed it) Obo and Edmunds.

  72. The team needs a football mind in the front office, not a guy with an accounting degree and a law certificate from bubble gum university.

    We tried it in the past with the Tuna but I’d go there again and bring in a guy who’s been there at the football level on the field as a head coach and is a strong guy with players. Too bad Andy Reid isn’t retiring although I don’t know so much he’d be interested.

    I don’t think Marino is the guy; he’d probably be more of a figure head and I don’t know if he would be any more effective than what Elway is in Denver. I think Lynch will turn out to be a good hiring in San Fran and we all know Coughlin is going to do well for JAX. We just need to find the right guy for us. Who is the person? Is it Fox? We need to make a change and get Tannenbaum out of there. He’s not the answer.

  73. NFL Update‏
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    Washington State QB Tyler Hilinski committed suicide earlier today and was found dead in his apartment.

    He was only 21 years old.

    sad

  74. They signed Suh as a guy to build around on the defense. Trouble is they haven’t built around him. They’ve been signing stop gap guys rather than building a real defense.

    They put the cart before the horse with the Suh signing. No doubt he’s been one of the most dominating DT’s in the game but he’s the guy you sign when you need the one piece to put you over the top.

    So, you’re paying this man a ton of money and you’ve done nothing to make the remainder of the defense around him any better. What a frickin waste of money. And if they don’t do something to make the situation any better they may end up wasting his entire career in Miami

  75. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    one perplexing issue is JaWuan James, there’s not much in FA’cy to replace him, do you pay him? if not you would have to replace him via the draft, would need a day one starter, and that may have #11 allocated to a Tackle

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      I’d pay him!

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I would try to rip up that last year contract, which is $9.34M, and sign him to more cap friendly deal. If he won’t do it, I’d keep him this year, see how he does, and worry about next year after this season.

  76. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Roquan Smith, ILB/OLB, Georgia (B)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Will Clapp, C/OG, LSU (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 32: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Isaiah Prince, OT, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia (A+)

  77. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  78. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  79. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I like this one!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 32: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Joe Ostman, DE, Central Michigan (A)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia (A+)

  80. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Mark Andrews and Flowers combined for 17 TD’s last year!
    4 rushing 13 receiving!

  81. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    In the last week, my Pirates have traded #1 starter Gerrit Cole and face of the team Andrew McCutchen for pretty much peanuts. They were both under contract for next year, but we knew we wouldn’t be able to keep them longer. After that next best player up Josh Harrison then asked to be traded, and I can’t blame him.

    All you guys who want Ross to sell the team….my greatest baseball wish would be for him to buy the Pittsburgh Pirates.

  82. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I’m still shaking my head at Gases stupidity, I don’t think he makes good decisions, they should look to replace him.

    The Julious Thomas acquisition has Gases smell all over it so one would think he has the last say in personnel, factor that in with the Timmons 2 year deal that we luckily escaped this year.

    If he thought that Moore was not adequate enough; and must have when it came to crunch time; to be a starter knowing Tannehill had possible knee complications that could bleed into the next season, why didn’t he secure a competent back up last year instead of having to dump the remainder of our salary cap in Cutler, being the QB guru he is?

    and last but not least letting Ajayi go for a 4th.

    also this team was ranked 31st in penalties, a sure sign of lack of discipline! and guess who gets all the credit for that? you guessed it the one and only Adam Gase!

    He has me longing for Joe philbin!

    so now what do we ask ourselves about the future?

    do these hits just keep on coming?

    • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

      Many coaches would struggle if their starting QB goes down. Gase is still young. I want to give him one more year with a healthy tanny before I ask for his head.

  83. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    For the OL lover in your life!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 32: Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Skai Moore, OLB, South Carolina (B)

  84. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Stanger
    I followed Jim Leland around and rooted for whoever he coached!

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Leland was awesome. He just didn’t give an F (like smoking in the dugout)….and still made it work. Clint Hurdle has that same kind of attitude, but he can only play the cards he has.

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Here’s another way things could shake out. But keep in mind, this is only possible if we clear major salary cap as some predict…

    If we secure Kris Kocurek to be our D-Line coach, it would look more and more like we’re going after Tahir Whitehead, IMO. This would ensure more ‘wide-9’ concepts, and Whitehead (28 years old) knows the system very well. This would reunite him with Burke. So this would be one FA on the defensive side of the ball.

    On the offensive side of the ball, we could add Andrew Norwell to be our LG if the Panthers allow him to hit FA. He’s the best available G (1st team All-Pro) and he’s only 26 years old.

    So between Whitehead and Norwell, we’ll get two high-priced FAs, one for each side of the ball. We’d have no ‘NEED’ to draft either of Quenton Nelson or Roquan Smith, and gives us a shot to draft the true BPA. If we’re looking to draft a QB in the 1st round, we can pull the trigger. If someone unexpectedly slides to us @ R1P11, we can pull the trigger without being concerned about ‘NEED’.

    The possibilities @ R1P11 would be opened up to that many more players.

  86. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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    Detroit Lions DL coach Kris Kocurek is leaving for the Miami Dolphins http://on.freep.com/2mHu5Wy via @freep
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    Well, there’s that!

  87. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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    Former Broncos assistant head coach/running backs Eric Studesville is headed to the Dolphins as ruining backs coach/run game coordinator. Studesville and Dolphins coach Adam Gase were on the Broncos’ staff together both under Josh Mc Daniels and John… http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0745320600825762856-4
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    Things are beginning to round out today!

  88. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero

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    Adam Gase has improved his coaching staff with some of these moves so far. Not done.

  89. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I don’t know if I want a ruining backs coach?

  90. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Really sad about Tyler Hilinski. Man he was so young. RIP

  91. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Wow, some good news on the coaching front with Kocurek and Studesville coming to Miami! Also got some good news from Dr. Colon Pokey MD. Everything is perfect, and I can go another 5 years until my next colonpokeyoscopy.

  92. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Gase looks like he’s trying to get the band back together. Pretty soon John Candy will be ordering 3 orange whips.

  93. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob

    You’re pretty tough on Gase. I don’t feel nearly as negatively towards him, although I was disappointed with this season, and the way he handled some things.

  94. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Will Clapp, C/OG, LSU (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Braden Smith, OT/OG, Auburn (A)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, Southern California (A)
    Round 4 Pick 32: Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Jordan Akins, TE, Central Florida (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Kylie Fitts, DE, Utah (A)

  95. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Sorry for all the draft posts!

    I’m Iced in and bored out of my skull!

  96. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

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