Since many Dolphins fans seem super concerned with the depth we currently have at the running back position, and since FA precedes the draft, let’s take a look at who is available that can help our team, and make it less urgent to have to draft 1 or 2. Right now we have Kenyan Drake and whatever. No offense to Senorise Perry or De’Veon Smith, but neither of those are likely to be on a 46 man roster on game day next season, unless we have injuries. I think we can all pretty much agree that Adam Gase runs at minimum a 2 back system, and I’d even say he would like 3 backs he can count on.
In Denver as the OC in 2013, he used the trio of Knowshon Moreno, Montee Ball and Ronnie Hillman, basically to 2:1 ratio down the line. Moreno had 241 carries, Ball had 120, and Hillman had 55 carries. The following season, it was C.J. Anderson who was the lead back with 179 carries, then Ronnie Hillman with 106 and Montee Ball with 55. Not quite a 2:1 ratio, but close enough that you know who the featured back is.
In 2015, Gase went to Chicago as OC for the Bears. A similar pattern existed there, with Matt Forte getting the majority of the carries, 218, and then Jeremy Langford a closer 2nd with 148, and then Ka’Deem Carey with 43 rushing attempts. While the top 2 backs shared a little more evenly, it’s obvious who the feature back is, and regardless of how good the 2 backs are, he still likes to use a 3rd back.
As HC with the Dolphins, Gase leaned heavily on his newfound success story, 2015 5th RD draft pick. To be fair, Arian Foster went down early in the season, and Gase was kind of pushed into going with Ajayi. Drake had always been a complimentary back at Alabama. His Freshman season, he was 3rd on the depth chart behind Eddie Lacy and T.J. Yeldon. In 2013, Drake was a distant 2nd to T.J. Yeldon, but far ahead of Derrick Henry. In 2014, due to injuries, it was Yeldon and Henry. In ’15 for Alabama, it was the Derrick Henry show, with a drop of Kenyan Drake sprinkled in, Henry carried 395 times, Drake has a meager 77 carries. In fact, the most carries Drake ever had in college was 92. On the other hand, Ajayi was a workhorse at Boise St. and the only reason he was there for MIA in the 5th RD in 2015 was due to concern on deteriorating knee issues.
So now that I’ve made it clear Gase has never relied solely on one feature running back, and prefers to spread carries around, who’s out there for us? For sake of reason, I’m not including any of the ridiculous salaried players like Le’Veon Bell, but more reasonable alternatives.
Dion Lewis 5’8 195 27YO
Forget that Lewis was a NE Patriot, he’d be a good fit for what we like here. He’s a very good receiver out of the backfield, and he would be a good 2nd option for Drake. He proved he could carry the ball when the pats were beset with injuries to Mike Gillislee, Rex Burkhead and James White, accounting for over 150 multipurpose yards in game 15, and over 130 in the final game. Lewis finished the season with 180 rushes and 896 yards and 6 rushing TD’s. He also caught 32 passes for 214 yards and 3 TD’s, giving him 9 total TD’s. Picking up Lewis also takes a player away from NE, and while we know they will replace him, it still stings for a moment. Oh, and Lewis was born in Brooklyn, he’s my goombah, hey fuggetaboutit! Spotrac says $5M per for Lewis
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Damien Williams 5’11 211 25YO
We all know Damien Williams, he’s a known quantity, playing here in MIA for the last 4 years. We also know Adam Gase likes Damien Williams, and that Damien Williams likes Adam Gase. Regardless of those things, Williams has never had more than 70 touches in a season, last year was his largest total, 46 rushes and 20 receptions. He can also return kicks and punts, and he’s a solid ST’s player, but he’s never been a big part of the offense. That should keep his salary down, which makes him affordable to everyone, and it’s possible if a team was willing to give him an opportunity for playing time, he might take it. My guess is, Damien will come back to MIA as long as we’re fair to him. Even if we do bring Williams back, is anyone here confident going into the draft with just Drake and Williams? Will we still need to spend a 2nd-4th RD pick on a RB? Maybe a 4th, but I believe we won’t need to go any higher.
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Terrance West 5’10 225 27YO
West had a disappointing 2017 season with injuries, none major, but nonetheless was irrelevant to the Ravens, while Alex Collins had a coming out party. in 2016, West was the Ravens leading rusher with 774 yards on 193 carries and 5 TD’s. West also added 34 receptions for 236 yards and 1 TD. West feel out of favor with a nagging calf injury last season, which should lower his value for FA. He’s more of the bowling ball type that some here desire, more of a banger between the tackles, more of a thunder to Drake’s lightning.
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Alfred Morris 5’9 219 29YO
Morris has been the feature back in the past, so when looking at a back to add to your stable, he’s the one guy you can count on to step up and take over as the lead back if necessary. Undrafted out of FAU, Morris was signed by the Redskins in 2012, and had his most impressive season in the NFL. Morris carried 335 times for 1613 yards and 13 TD’s. The thing is, he’s steadily declined since 2012, going to down to a very respectable 1275 yards rushing in ’13, then 1074 yards, then 751 yards, then out of the picture on the Ezekiel Elliott led Cowboys. It’s obvious why Morris has been relegated to watching football from the bench with Ezekiel Elliot as the feature back. The good thing for Morris is he probably has fresh legs after 2 quiet seasons in Dallas, after 4 grueling seasons in Washington. Morris is a scrapper, another wrecking ball that can run in between the tackles. Morris’ last contract with the Cowboys was a 2YR/$3.5M contract. Despite Morris being 29, like I mentioned, he should have fresh legs, so I’d definitely consider Morris. He might make some forget that Ajayi guy.
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Orleans Darkwa 6’0 210 26YO
Another guy Dolphins fan know. Some of us were sorry to see him go, and Darkwa finally got his chance last with the new York Giants last season. Darkwa carried 171 times for 751 yards and 5 TD’s. This was by far his biggest workload, more than quadrupling and other season. Things worked out well for Darkwa last year, the Giants were in a shambles, injuries to Paul Perkins gave him his shot, and he made the most of it, on what was an awful season for the Jints. He should be affordable, despite his breakout season last year, and he proved he can be counted on for significant carries if necessary.
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Jerick McKinnon 5’9 205 25YO
Last, but most definitely NOT least, is Jerick McKinnon. I think McKinnon would be a perfect fit for how we use RB’s, but I do believe McKinnon would like to finally be the feature back, after a couple of years of toiling behind Adrian Peterson, and then last year, initially buried behind by rookie sensation Dalvin Cook and then FA pickup Latavius Murray. McKinnon is a very shifty, quick RB with excellent receiving skills. Last season, McKinnon showed that dual threat ability, rushing 150 times for 570 yards and 3 TD’s, along with 51 receptions for 421 yards and 2 TD’s. Spotrac has McKinnon slated for $4M per year, which is doable. The question is, will he come to MIA without being given a chance to be the starter? I’d feel pretty good with McKinnon in tow before the draft, probably as much with him as Alfred Morris or Dion Lewis. It would definitely push RB back down in priority in a deep draft at RB.
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There are other free agents besides Le’Veon Bell that I don’t believe we can be in the running for, nor should we be such as Carlos Hyde and Isaiah Crowell. I think their salaries will be prohibitive for signing here. Other notable free agent RB’s are LeGarrette Blount, Jamal Charles, C.J. Spiller, Darren Sproles, and Eddie Lacy, all whom are either too old, or just don’t fit. Any suggestions, let me hear it!
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Good stuff, Mike! Dion Lewis would be a very good fit for us. I would not be against signing him and Williams. Drake, Lewis, Williams and Gray as the short yardage back would be just fine in my book. I know that won’t excite Piggy and some others, but I think that group could be very productive.
foist?
Damn!
A post from the other article I recently posted.
In this mock from local reporters from the cities of these teams, Armando mentions the Dolphins really like Roquan Smith.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article199651424.html
Draft a RB too!
I think we will, but if we sign either McKinnon, Lewis or Morris, we could wait till later in the draft
Just usually too costly for my 🐷 blood
Man, Damien Williams just looks so much thicker than 211LBs. I am 5’11” and I was 211lbs “when I was fat” (now about 185 LBS) and I NEVER looked that thick. He is impressive looking in the pick above.
Suggestions Mike? Draft a RB high in this years draft. (put that out there for Piggy’s benefit only, I don’t think we should use a draft pick on a RB high in this draft. Linemen, linemen, linemen!
How many OL do you want to draft?
He’s listed as 224. I think that’s a typo.
Who’s listed at 224?
Williams, he’s not 211. He’s always been over 220.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/damien-williams?id=2543633
Piggy – It wouldn’t be costly to sign the guys I mentioned because we have Drake on his rookie salary.
Resign Williams and we are good. No one in the FA crop really excites me that much
Nice article Mike E
Piggy,
Word around here is McKinnon will head to NY with Shurmur.
Good
I want rookies not vets…lol
That makes sense and the Giants need RBs. Both Darkwa and Vereen are UFAs.
Giovani Bernard
Devonta Freeman
Freeman won’t be the cheapest back. Bernard would also be a good fit like Dion Lewis.
If we traded down and ended up with Derrius Guice and Billy Price as our first two picks (in no specific order) and you still had a 2nd, 3rd and two 4th rounders to add LB, QB and TE (or 2) would you guys be against drafting a RB high then?
I should say take your pick of the 2nd best interior OL (Hernandez, Smith, Price – basically anyone but Nelson)
yes.
I wouldn’t be against any scenario of how we acquire players via FA, draft or trade if it makes us a better team and we win lots of games. 🙂
Jeez Mike E — awesome research went into that. I want to to keep Williams and explore in the draft, but I come away with RBs (at least ones hitting FA) come on the relative cheap. Must be tough to be them…..unless you are a special talent you get the attention, but your expiration date is not so far away. Still a fan of the Bronco’s stable approach….and those RBs in the stable are naturals for STs too.
Devonta Freeman is under contract through 2022. Bernard is signed though 2019
I must have cliked an old site?
Well there you have it. Freeman signed a big deal, 5 years over $40M and Bernard just received an extension.
Tim Knight says:
February 12, 2018 at 12:18 pm
In this mock from local reporters from the cities of these teams, Armando mentions the Dolphins really like Roquan Smith.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article199651424.html
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In this mock draft, I think it’s safe to assume that the Broncos won the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes. Where Cousins signs will be the first domino to drop, setting the Draft in motion.
And then there’s this from Mike Klis, the guy who made the #5 pick for the Broncos in the above mock draft…
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And then there were 3. We identified Big 5 QBs who could be available this offseason for Broncos: Garoppolo, Alex Smith, Drew Brees, Kirk Cousins, Case Keenum. Garoppolo, Smith off board. Brees only wants Saints. Broncos looking at Cousins, Case and No. 5 draft pick. #9sports
Y’all may remember that the Broncos came VERY close to signing Keenum last year.
Wyo – Must have – I used spotrac is who very up to date, I also use pro-football-reference.com for all my stats, heights and weights. I guess their heights and weights aren’t accurate, but it’s really not important anyway. Damien Williams is what he is, whether he’s 211 or 224. 🙂
Same here with spotrac and pro-football-reference. Good sites.
The Flying Pig says:
February 12, 2018 at 1:30 pm
How many OL do you want to draft?
As many as it takes to finally fix the problem! (Except for my Tight end Crush)
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Take the glue out of your nose Rock!
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Thanks Tim, Ken and Stanger!
I know from reading comments that some of you don’t want to trade down but I do unless we have a shot at a player like Nelson or smith
I tend to think the back end of the first and the early mid round in the 2nd is the sweet spot for interior OL, RB, TE and LBs, basically our needs
Of course if they really like a QB at 11, I would not trade down either
but other than that, I think it makes sense
It always comes down to how it pans out. There is no right or wrong way. Bill Walsh used to trade down all the time, multiple times.
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February 12, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Take the glue out of your nose Rock!
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If the Dolphins take a RB in rounds 1 or 2 I will have the same expression on my face as my avatar
^^
But look at the Saints. Hard to argue with two elite talents. But if they go that way, they better go OL heavy as well.
Not sure if the uprising is happening yet, but our Pig has some pretty scary folks on his side when it does unless the dumpsters in Hong Kong are really tiny.
Big pig! Boaring though. lol
That’s the Pork Knuckles Gang. Dangerous group of pigkind. Most of us are nicer provided you aren’t eating bacon
Only Turkey bacon and KFC for me. 🙂
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Which first-year players stood out in the AFC East?
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We have some good upside from last year’s draft. The year before too.
I got to see the back court of Emmanuel Mudiay and Frank Ntilkina, and I LIKE IT!!
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LOL! I like that crazy movie, actually saw it in the theaters.
Yeah it’s funny. I usually watch it every time I see it when channel surfing.
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Ronald Jones, Saquon Barkley and Kerryon Johnson all rank among the top-5 best in this class in fumble rate. Meanwhile, Sony Michel is second-worst.
Here are all the fumble rates for this crop of RB prospects: http://draftscout.tsxfiles.com/2018/02/11/here-are-fumble-rates-for-nfl-draft-running-back-prospects/ …
Those are important stats. Some guys can correct fumbling issues and some can’t.
Sammy Smith
Given the volume of carries he has – Barkley’s numbers are really impressive
Too bad about Michel – I think this is a big deal. I knew about Balledge and Pettway
Guice, Penny and Freeman, given their volume of carries are very good
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Tim,
We don’t wan no stinking former Pats players on this team. Screw Dion Lewis.
Let’s just pretend he was a former Eagle. LOL
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That’s amazing. Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden. Four first-round quarterbacks in 2012, zero pass attempts in 2017.
Two injured, one is a backup and the other out of the league.
https://twitter.com/PhinsComNews/status/963168024978186244
Here we go again. LOL
The copper-plated one is a STUD!!!
Chubb’s numbers against SEC opponents are pretty impressive
I have wanted Mr Blount since he was released by Tenn… MAKE IT HAPPEN !!!!! BRUISERBACK and he CAN catch.. then grab someone late in the draft after the OL is addressed…
Nice job Mike E…
LeGarrette Blount? He was with TB.
Would sure make ORob do the happy dance at least. 🙂
Thanks Toba!
I thought about adding Blount into the mix, but he’s on the wrong side of 30, and if he can catch, why don’t they ever throw to him? He’s never had more than 15 catches in a season.
He does seem to keep on ticking though as a runner.
Tim if memory serves correctly he was cut by Tennessee late training camp then signed with Tampa.. and on forom there.. I may be wrong, but not usually .. 🙂
You are CORRECT, Manitoba!
You’re correct but he never played a down for them in a game. He was cut right before the season started.
But you could bring him and draft one of Pig’s boys. Don’t think anyone would complain about Blount until whoever it is comes ready for primetime. And he would look real good on short yardage. Williams would probably be cheaper though.
Williams isn’t a dynamic runner but he has shown he can run with power and move the pile. So has Drake. 😉
Then we have Gray for those FB dives. I’m not concerned about needing the power back. Most short yardage plays are about the blocking up front anyways.
Mike E. says: He’s never had more than 15 catches in a season.
but do you ever remember him dropping one ?? 🙂
No, and for the record, he does catch almost all his targets. 🙂
Stanger – That’s true, I just think of the type of backs Gase likes, and I’m not sure Blount fits that mold. I also wouldn’t mind him here, I like the way he runs the football.
Agreed, I think Gase likes backs that can run and catch, not one dimensional.
Tim: I must have watched a Tennessee Preseason game that year for some strange reason … cause I remember wanting us to grab him at that time..
TEN wanted to put him on the PS but he didn’t clear waivers as TB picked him up.
Silly Titans…
Mike/Stanger, but then it would be a stopgap for 1-2 seasons , and we all know Lou would not approve of that .. 🙂
It’s funny, most of the Pats WRs and RBs are signed from other teams and not to large contracts and they win a lot.
yep one mans garbage is another mans treasure,,, Bastards !!
Tim – You would think that teams would realize that former Patriots will not yield the same results as they did in NE. That’s a well oiled machine, and when you put that cog in a different machine, it just doesn’t fit as well, and they can’t do as well elsewhere.
cant think of anyone to disagree with ya over unless ya go back Pre Evil Empire, and say Jim Plunkett..
Blount did for the Eagles though and he won another Super Bowl.
was awesome both him and Long beating their old team.. Screw you BillyBob
Mike E is right. Former Pats don’t do as well with other teams. I wonder why that is? Inflated balls, stealing play calls, paid off refs?
Mysterious headset malfunctions?
Oh yeah I forgot about those headsets
Bugged facilities and walk-thru fields.
all right off to home.. have a good one people and mammals…
If you look, most of the skill players the Pats have drafted weren’t good with them or any team afterwards. They don’t draft skill very well. They mostly target proven productive 2nd tier or lower players and put them in roles. They don’t overpay either. The only dominant player they have is Gronk.
This philosophy is part of the argument I’ve made about not paying Landry in the range he’s looking for. Target players who can do what you need them to do. You don’t always have to target a top dog. I’d prefer an offense that goes through 4-5 skill players as opposed to 1-2. You lose those guys and you can’t function. I don’t think Gase wants that.
The Falcons got better when they started to do that too, not go through just Julio. They spread it to a lot of guys.
So did Denver under Gase.
And Philly.
Later Toba!
He’s long gone, sniffin’ glue and freakin out with Fanspeak.
There is some talk that the Bears might waive Dion Simms bc if they do it before a March deadline they get out of paying him an extra 4M of the guaranteed 10m he signed for
If they do, would you guys favor re-signing him. I think he is a great blocking TE
I always thought he was underrated but not a special player. He’s a role player who can be a solid #2TE with Gray as more FB/H-Back. Add a talented pass catching TE and we’re good.
If the price is right, but we still need to draft a guy early.
Absolutely I would bring him back but I would still want to draft a TE
Meh
I think people overrated Sims here. I think he was a good blocker, but really pretty non athletic, and not a very good pass catcher either. He was OK
I liked him but he isn’t what we need
He was never the same after face planting himself on a deep fade route. It was Tannehill’s fault. LOL
He’s a solid #2, nothing more. He was what I was hoping the magnificent Arthur Lynch would be. 😉
Maybe not Tannehill’s but one of the ugliest passes ever thrown in the NFL.
It was a against the grain play-action bootleg across Tannehill’s body throw that was off the mark and out of bounds. Sims… let it go!!! But we can’t knock you for a great effort.
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/nfl/news/dion-sims-concussion-dolphins-tight-end-motionless-limp-end-zone-head-injury-redskins/yhyc385tc1ey15vcjf427k2b5
I rest my case on how ugly that throw was. Easy Touchdown instead scrambled eggs for a starter who was wide open in the end zone. Weeee he’s back next year.
When the owner and GM of the Phins learns how to draw a pentagram on the floor of their office and use it we can sign stop gap guy’s to cheap contracts and win with them
Well ya’ll finally got me to devalue the LB position!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 11: Mike McCray, OLB, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9: Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia (A)
Round 7 Pick 5: Joe Ostman, DE/OLB, Central Michigan (A)
Round 7 Pick 11: Rashaan Gaulden, CB, Tennessee (A+)
These mocks will become more realistic after FA. They are so need based. 😉
Benkert Schmenkert he does nothing for us.
of course not!
He played for Virginia last year! 😉
Hope he stays there
Florida native
Sims is a younger…maybe less athletic….Fasano. Fasano’s getting up there a little bit though. Not sure we need two.
Fasano is an FA. I would take Simms over Fasano
Son… geez QBs miss a pass. It’s one play. Sims it’s out of bounds, let up. Just another bash Tannehill comment as if no other QB ever did this. It’s silly I tell you. Silly!!! 🙂
20 points Tannehill, yay
Then there is this.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0ap2000000258258/QB-Tannehill-to-WR-Gibson-46-yd-pass-4th-down-conversion
We were at that game, great play and guess what – we lost!
Tannehill’s fault or anyone else? LOL
Son who’s your QB??????
We know it’s not Tanny!!!!
I’m torn a little bit. I like Baker for a lot of what we need. Allen I like but he may have some of the “boyish” qualities of Tannehill and I like Rudolph as he seems like a good pro fit.
Jeremiah Briscoe has a BIG arm but he certainly isn’t starter material at this point but he has the arm to get there.
So you don’t like Benkert but you like Briscoe? Interesting.
Ken,
I thought people felt Fasano was gonna be here next year. I thought I read something like that here….maybe not. My bad. I’d take Sims just for the age factor, but Fasano is a more polished player. Sims is a good blocker.
I want Sims for blocking. He is a stud at that and better than Fasano at that. However we still need a better pass catcher at TE
OK now be honest Son.
Do you take Mayfield @11?
Maybe, it’s a tough call. I want to see him at the combine side by side with the rest of the QB’s.
Aw shucks Tannehill back to pass he misses the wide open receiver- aw shucks we’ll get ’em next time
the Fin’s could make Herd really happy!
That was nice, nice compact throwing motion with some pop.
No no nooooooooooo
Marino makes a huge throw on 4th and 10 and hits a 46 yard play for a 1st down and everyone is on their knees. Tannehill does it and they act like it never happened or it means nothing. Tannehill has never thrown 5 INTs in a game, Marino did it at least 3 times. Let’s be fair.
Oh man your going to resurrect the demons!
I just find people to be too fickle and bias. From 86-89 we were 8-8, 8-7, 6-10 and 8-8 with Marino and Shula. What happened? Marino was in his f’n prime!!!! Shhhhhh…
lol. imagine comparing Tannehill to Marino.
Then look at records when the overall team was subpar. Marino never had a running game or defense. Anyone remember those comments? It’s not about saying Tannehill is on the same level as Marino. It’s the lame I don’t want to hear it about him and Shula view. Admit it already. LOL
yeah, but when it came to the games that were won Marino was the guy who could put the team on his back and drive the length of the field and score. Tannehill can’t do that.
Ken,
As my daughter says: True dat, homey! Quickly followed by: Got any money, dad? Lol
LOL
Well I stand corrected that would not make Herd Happy????
I think he’s a head case.
Well at least he could always join the Blog then!!!! 🙂
Lol. Either herd disagrees, or she isn’t falling off a cliff.
You know it had to be bad for me to not want a Herd player.
Tim,
☹️😔🤥😞😒🤨😟😠🤭🤔😲
Tim, I never invoked Marino that was you. I just think we can do better than Opie.
you mean this guy?
https://twitter.com/305_sports/status/962772267481608192
Incomplete and Incompleter
I didn’t say you did. I mentioned how a team with great QB and HC could be average or worse. It happened. It’s not an opinion.
Right, the QB who helped us go on a 7-1 run after starting off subpar in 2016. The game he went down in was against ARZ leading 21-9 only to have Matt Moore come in and make it an last second FG win 26-23. Be careful what you wish for. Tannehill is on a play for pay deal now. He knows he has to perform NOW!!!! The grass is not always greener. 😉
Tim,
Right on, man! I’m hoping Tannehill comes back and kicks some major ass!!! 🌈🦄👍😀
Lou, Marino was the best pure passer there ever was. He made throws nobody ever made. No not 75+ yard passes, but those 20-35 yarders on the money time and time again. Forget me being a Dolphins fan for a moment, he was the best pure thrower of the football in games that I ever saw. I have friends who hated Marino back in the day who now say, dude, he was as good as it gets.
I meant Simms as the #2 TE
It would only affect the draftnto the extent that we might not draft a 2nd TE
Then again, we might still draft 2 TEs even if we signed a Simms or a Fasano
Sims, one “M” you’re killing M13. LOL
I misspell a lot of names
Honestly You are lucky I just don’t snort through this blog on a daily basis
Horrible, just horrible. LOL
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TannRy00.htm
I’m really surprised I don’t hear more about Falk from you guys
Who gives a falk about him. Too slight, they’ll break him in half.
Falk you
Look at the ball placement of some of his passes
Perfect!
Tim,
Are you sitting there in your Tannehill pajamas, drinking out of your Tannehill mug and loading up a bowl of the icky sticky in your Tannehill bong while having a moment? Lol
^
Piggy,
Falk was awesome. The way he made you truly believe he was a rumpled, distracted detective who just happen to fall into solving crimes that no one else could solve because he saw the little things everyone else missed….amazing. I loved Columbo.
That’s not the Falk I’m talking about!!!!🐷😡
Think about how cool it would be to Falk Brady and the Patriots!
He might not be a bad one to unseat Moore
I think he will make an excellent backup in This league at a minimum
But his ceiling his Drew Brees territory
I refuse to watch a man placing his balls anywhere.
Lol
Piggy,
Well, what the Falk are you talking about then…and why should we care what he does with his balls?
If it’s our receivers he is throwing to – you will care about his 🏈
My all Piggy draft so far
RB – Guice and/or Freeman
OL – Nelson and Clapp
TE – Hearst and/or Gesecki
LB – Skai Moore
QB – Falk or White
DB – Derwin
DE – Landry maybe Key
I haven’t spent any time with receivers this year and not a whole lot of time on defense
But these are some of my favorites so far
Now we won’t draft any of them
No… I’m in whatever clothes while many of you ignore the point made and slop around in the hot tub. LOL
Tim…
You can’t reason with blind Tannehate!
Lol
Tim Knight says:
February 12, 2018 at 10:42 pm
Horrible, just horrible. LOL
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TannRy00.htm
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What’s up with the narrative that Philbin and Lazor sucked as coaches?
Tim Knight says:
February 12, 2018 at 10:29 pm
Right, the QB who helped us go on a 7-1 run after starting off subpar in 2016. The game he went down in was against ARZ leading 21-9 only to have Matt Moore come in and make it an last second FG win 26-23. Be careful what you wish for. Tannehill is on a play for pay deal now. He knows he has to perform NOW!!!! The grass is not always greener. 😉
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That narrative is entirely incorrect. In four of those 7 games he threw for a combined 3 td’s and 3 int’s including no td’s vs PIT and 1 td and 3 int’s vs BAL. He had 1 td vs both the Jets and BUF.
That being said, I’m still not looking to draft a qb in the first this year. #BUILDATEAM
I was a Big Joe proponent. He’s a real good guy and I still like him. He was just over his head a bit. However, seems he was really the least of the problems…..
I know I don’t have to mention him wanting Carr and getting denied…..so there’s that for you guys to chew on. Lol
The Flying Pig says:
February 12, 2018 at 11:20 pm
Now we won’t draft any of them
Log
well I’m glad that you did not list Dallas Goedert then
Piggy:
Falk has a below average arm. I would pass on him I think are better options out there
He does not have josh Allen’s arm
But I don’t th No he has below average or weak
Just not super cannon. What good is a cannon if you aren’t very accurate?
In terms of arm strength he is probably bottom 1/3 of this class or lower. He could struggle at the next level especially with out routes
Well, Allen and Jackson have surreal arm strength
I don’t think you necessarily want the strongest arm in the class – I think you want the best all around traits
He’s probably got the best head on his shoulders
Not to mention outstanding accuracy and pocket presence
A lot of Tann-aggression here yesterday. If he doesn’t perform, he’s gone, so why sweat it? His contract is laid out to make it easy to get rid of him if he doesn’t play well. He has a dead cap hit of $2.3M next season, so if he sucks, he’s gone.
But but but we will have “Wasted” 8 ywars on him by then
Maybe so, but you move on. I expect him to play well this year, so this was just to appease the Tanne-hate.
If we don’t get Quenton Nelson in the 1st RD, I really hope we take Will Hernandez in the 2nd. Then we get a TE in the 3rd, which hopefully isn’t too late for either Goedert or Gesicki. I think Goedert will be gone though.
I was watching clips of will Hernandez and Nelson last night
Hernandez would be a nice addition
They both look like difference makers on an OL
Nelson is a master technician, Hernandez is just bull strong and stout.
I actullay think they both rival each other in terms of strength. I wonder if they get really high bench press scores at the combine.
I would hesitate to call Nelson a master technician – I think he has a lot of room to get even better, which is really impressive
The idea that he isn’t worth a top 15 pick is crazy. He’s one of the best talents in this draft.
Mike I don’t know if you have a chance but Voch Lombardi has your tube breakdowns in each of those two guys which I found really inciteful.
Who is Voch Lombardi? Is he related to the Voch Ness Monster?
He is a mystical creature on YouTube
That’s Voch the Impaler.
https://youtu.be/7lcn3dZvgdQ
https://youtu.be/7aux55iUNtk
If you can deal with the pandering and the persistent rewinding of the same clip a dozen times – I like his breakdowns
Can’t look at it today, but I’ll check it out tomorrow. Thanks!
Don’t ask, don’t tell.
Is it that bad?
That was for Piggy liking his “breakdowns.”
11. Miami Dolphins – G Billy Price, Ohio State – I swear, every year the Dolphins’ top need is offensive line. Price spent 2017 at center, playing at a high level, but he lined up at guard prior to that. Again, some might think this is early for a guard, but protecting the interior is vital.
That would be a disappointing pick
It wouldn’t be so bad in the back end of the 1st after a trade down
That draft fell pretty poorly for us. It almost doesn’t seem possible for it to fall that badly. lol
It could go down like that. Not sure we’d pick Price, but I could see the other prospects going before we pick.
I think I’d rather take McGlinchey, the Notre Dame OT
That could be the pick if we let James walk.
Mike Shula hired by the Giants as OC.
Good for him, that’s a great job, if he can get that offense playing well again
Agreed. Shurmur and Shula will be good for Eli in the twilight of his career. They’ll likely also groom a young QB along the way as well.
I just want to go on record and agree with Tim when he was saying that Marino and Don Shula were vastly overrated.
I didn’t say they were overrated. I said even a great QB and coach without a complete team were average. Our defense got so bad from 86-89 it was embarrassing.
Don’t backtrack now. Stand by your words. lol
Shula can’t be all that overrated, his teams won 328 games, and has a .677 win percentage. Belichick would have to coach another 6-8 years to top him, and Belichick is considered the greatest coach.
Then Charley Casserly’s mock has us passing on Nelson for Smith.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000915990/article/charley-casserly-mock-draft-10-colts-snag-saquon-barkley
I think that would be a mistake, but if you can get Roquan and either Will Hernandez or Billy Price or Isaiah Wynn, you done pretty well
There probably will be a run on OL in the 2nd rd.
I probably would have taken Nelson but I wouldn’t cry about drafting Smith
I don’t think I’ll cry either way. LOL
I think I would take Price over the Notre Dame OT
Tim Knight says:
February 13, 2018 at 1:41 pm (Edit)
There probably will be a run on OL in the 2nd rd.
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Will it be like bread and milk at a supermarket before a snowstorm? lol
If they let James go they better be really confident in davis’ ability to play RT bc this is not a great draft for OTs
There are some highly rated tackles in this draft but when you read the cons it’s as if they can’t play. LOL
If there is a run on OL in the 2nd round
Doesn’t a trade down make sense?
If the prospects we covet are gone at #11 and there is a QB still on the board that another team covets, we could possibly trade down.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 14 (G.B.): Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 13 (G.B.): Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso (B)
Round 3 Pick 9: Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina (A)
Round 4 Pick 11: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 4 Pick 30: Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky (D-)
Round 6 Pick 9: Skai Moore, OLB, South Carolina (B-)
Round 7 Pick 5: Matthew Thomas, OLB, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Bradley Bozeman, C, Alabama (C+)
I had to use first pick to trade down
But this is my dream draft
I got a D- for the qb pick…lol
Those draft simulators don’t think highly of Mike White. Someone else posted a mock with him in the 7th rd and he got a bad grade too.
I think this is Bs
But they are getting new uniforms
https://twitter.com/ericvdunn/status/963116201370112002
Ghey?
If they want to dress like back alley hookers I guess it’s up to Jax
11: R1P11 G QUENTON NELSON, NOTRE DAME
42: R2P10 TE MARK ANDREWS, OKLAHOMA
73: R3P9 EDGE TYQUAN LEWIS, OHIO STATE
113: R4P11 RB JOHN KELLY, TENNESSEE
132: R4P30 LB DARIUS LEONARD, SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
186: R6P9 C BRADLEY BOZEMAN, ALABAMA
223: R7P5 S GODWIN IGWEBUIKE, NORTHWESTERN
229: R7P11 FB DIMITRI FLOWERS, OKLAHOMA
I honestly think this is a very good draft here. Nelson, Andrews and Leonard stand out to me, but Lewis and Kelly are solid picks too. Also, put me in the camp of drafting Flowers and seeing what kind of mismatches we could get with him. While Miami probably wouldn’t draft him, I still find him intriguing being a FB/H-Back/short yardage back.
Thanks
https://twitter.com/PhinsComNews/status/963499804394446853
Piggy – That draft was sick! If we pulled that off, I’d be bouncing off the walls
I don’t see GB trading a 2nd to move up 3 spots though. Maybe a 3rd.
First pick is bullshit
I agree, that draft would be killer. In the real world though, dropping 3 picks in the first would probably net a 3rd rounder at best.