It’s not all fun and games all the time destroying lifeforms across the universe. Sometimes, the photon bomb you unleash doesn’t do the job – and there are still useless lifeforms left on the planet.
Well that’s when you bust out the planet grinder for the finishing touches
It’s like a great pass rusher finishing off an offense – Harold Landry can finish off an offense.
The Positives: Let’s start with Landry’s very impressive 2016 season, 16.5 sacks, 22 tackles for a loss and one interception. Landry wreaked havoc in the ACC in 2016. Some scouts will argue that Landry is the 2nd best pass rusher in the 2018 draft after Chubb.
Landry kills offensive tackles with an explosive first step. His initial burst rivals some of the NFL’s best pass rushers. He gets around the tackle, turns his hips at the QB and closes quickly. He’s got a non-stop motor and makes a lot of effort plays as well.
He’s also very good against the run – making him one of the nation’s most disruptive defenders.
The Negatives: Size. Landry projects as a 4-3 DE in the NFL, but for his size. At Boston College, Landry played with his hand in the ground most of the time, but it seems like a lot of scouts are calling him an OLB giving Landry the tweener moniker.
Landry actually did drop in coverage at Boston College so he can play OLB in a 3-4 defense but in a 4-3, where he might be more comfortable, to play DE, he might have to put on a little weight without sacrificing his speed.
Landry only played in 8 games last year and was nowhere as productive as he was in 2016 (only 5 sacks).
The Alien Dust: Pass rushers are like jello – there is always room for them. This athletic pass rusher reminds me a lot of Cameron Wake. And that might be who he replaces if the Dolphins draft him.
In my opinion, if the Dolphins want to focus on defense for a second year in a row, a pick like Landry in the first round makes a lot of sense. The Dolphins would have their young bookend pass rushers in place for the next few years with a move like that.
If you can’t build your OL in the draft, maybe you can draft guys who destroy other OLs.
Whether his team is down by 20 or up by 20 he is playing hard. This guy is a finisher. That is why Landry is like the Planet Grinder.
Check out his highlights!
Finsmob Unleashed 
DeVante Parker vs DJ Chark…
DeVante: 6’3″, 209, 4.40, 36.5″VJ, 10’5″ BJ
DJ Chark: 6’3″, 199, 4.34, 40″ VJ, 10’9″ BJ
Is the combine over?
Did Rich Eisen run his 40-yard dash? YES!
Oh okay, that’s the wrap up.
Somebody just got a woody!
Nah, we’re VERY good at Safety, man. What’s more, we can’t absorb The Pearl’s cap hit.
Probably not Thomas…..but still like the thought of TJ at nickle LB in long yard situations and putting some young gazelle back there at FS. Heck — it could be one of our CBs if we draft the right one.
stangerx says:
March 5, 2018 at 2:29 pm
Probably not Thomas…..but still like the thought of TJ at nickle LB in long yard situations and putting some young gazelle back there at FS. Heck — it could be one of our CBs if we draft the right one.
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The right one was DESMOND KING, last year!!! 😡
And if ya don’t believe me, ask Randy!
So that’s the end of that, he’s the only one and that ship has sailed. LOL
Davis and Young ain’t starters on a good OL.
We don’t know enough about Davis yet but the team likes him. Andrew Norwell is a top UFA guard and he went undrafted in 2014. Young is a journeyman but he did play well down the stretch.
Joe Namath sucked. He always sucked and will always suck. End of story. No argument can be made otherwise.
HE SUCKED! Stinking gangreen wearin’ no talent loud mouthed JET!!
https://twitter.com/RAIDERS/status/970750920148602880
He fucked up again. That could be it for him.
Agreed… and that’s a damned shame.
Yep a wasted football talent but also a man with major character flaws in life.
Richardson, DGB, Smith; all from Mizzou. Hope Harris doesn’t suffer from their ailment.
Michael Eggnog may have a clue…
Eggnog, Egg Fu Young, Eggcarton… LOL
Tim,
I disagree vociferously! Big word! These guys just keep trying to get by on the cheap when it comes to the OL. it’ll bite them in the ass again this year if they go with Young and Davis. I truly hope we don’t. Larsen should be a backup too. This FO sucks at evaluating OL talent….or they simply don’t value it and think so-so is good enough. But hey….it’s not like you actually need a good OL to be successful in the NFL!
I agree. It’s time to stop fucking around with the o line and fix it already. We can’t go into the season penciling in guys who should be depth as starters just because they played some good snaps for us.
Like someone on here is so fond of saying, they were undrafted for a reason. hehehehe
It’s still true with UDFAs. But when you a find a decent one don’t just write them off because of that. There are reasons players go in different rounds too.
What’s wrong with finding a UDFA who impressed and could develop and get better? The OL was in a flux before this FO. You don’t know what we’ll do this offseason. I don’t think Young isn’t a guy you pencil in, more as insurance. Davis could have surprising upside. Let’s see how he does instead of just writing him off just because he’s on the cheap. That’s the best case scenario if he pans out.
^not a guy you pencil in.
nobody said anything about writing Davis off but he was an udfa for a reason. we need starters on the line; not backups. Davis should be developed. We need quality depth on the line as well as quality starters.
If one day Davis develops into a starting caliber player then that bodes well for us.
FIX THE BLOODY O-LINE is RIGHT!!!
Everyone is saying that. I just think people write guys off because of their status. If Davis is part of an improved OL why would anyone care?
nobody is writing guys off because of their status. we’re just saying you can’t go into the season counting on an udfa as a starter on the o-line. if you had a competition and he won out then maybe you have something but it all depends on who he’s competing against.
So, if we draft a couple of guys and Davis wins out, that’s one thing but if they look at the situation with the line and think “well, we’ve got Davis at RG” then that’s idiotic.
Lou, what if Davis wins a starting job in 2018 not by default but because he earned it? Did anyone care that Bess won a job and playing time as a UDFA because he earned it? Of course not. The competition figures it out.
I’m pretty sure OL will be an area we target this offseason. I’m not suggesting we’re good no reason to upgrade, I’m just mentioning options already in-house.
Just like any position.
There are no options already in house. We’ve been down that road before. We need STARTERS on the offensive line; not backups playing starting roles. We had Bushrod for two years and he was a backup starting on our o-line. He wouldn’t have started anywhere else.
Enough is enough. The nonsense with the offensive line needs to end.
Okay we’ll see what happens.
He was definitely “soft” boiled egg…
It would seem logical to me… being the Cowboys need a WR, to trade Jarvis for Lawrence, straight-up. Instead, we traded for ‘broken-back Quinn’ so fast that it’s likely not a possibility at this point. And that our greatest trade-partners — the Eagles — are shopping Vinny Curry now…
Tannenbaum drives me NUTS with his impulsive BS! 😡
I truly believe they don’t want to trade Landry
You think they’re just testing the market?
Yes Tim that and trying to gain some leverage with Landry
they really don’t have a choice right now. it’s either trade or rescind the tag because they aren’t going to carry him on the books at the cost of the tag because it’s too high and we’d really need to make some moves to clear enough cap to keep him this year.
he’s either traded or the tag is rescinded and he’s a free agent. unless he comes crawling back at a much lower price because, at this time, I believe even the $13M/yr is off the table.
Dude, Lawrence is going to get a big deal at some point. Curry isn’t anything special. Quinn will have to pass a physical before the trade goes through. The Cowboys may not want Landry. Talk about being impulsive. LOL
I think you’re missing my point, man.
Not at all. FA hasn’t started and the door is still open on a lot of stuff. Your post closed it. That was impulsive in your desire to rag on Tannenbaum. Nothing is set in stone yet.
Ken, I could see that with Landry.
Tim Knight says:
March 5, 2018 at 4:15 pm
..FA hasn’t started and the door is still open on a lot of stuff…
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THAT is what I’m talking about… not the other stuff in your post.
I’d be willing to bet that Quinn would have been a cap casualty, and that we could have signed him to OUR coin, and without trading a draft pick.
too many other teams interested in him you have to compete with and it drives up the price. smart move was to trade for him to avoid the free agency and then extend him to lower his cap hit this year.
plus, getting a 1st rd DE for a 4th rd pick? that’s a no brainer.
There were other teams interested in trading for him too. Maybe just maybe we want the player if he’s medically cleared. You really care about a 4th for a proven pass rusher? It’s as if the team can’t go about building their team their way, it has to fall in line with fanbase GMs. It gets crazy after awhile. We don’t know enough behind the scenes stuff. Why not go with the flow of the team rather than questioning everything they do based on your personnel preference. Nobody in the media, fans or anyone on this blog knows the outcome of anything we do this offseason. Unless we have a bunch of psychics here. LOL
It’s gone beyond discussing the team and the projection of what could be. It’s like a constant witch hunt.
seriously, I’d rather try and get Miller or Kirk in the draft than keep Landry on the tag or give him an extension. Robinson is going to be a free agent and then there’s Jordan Matthews. I’d rather we go after one of those guys.
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
March 5, 2018 at 4:30 pm
too many other teams interested in him you have to compete with and it drives up the price. smart move was to trade for him to avoid the free agency and then extend him to lower his cap hit this year.
plus, getting a 1st rd DE for a 4th rd pick? that’s a no brainer.
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Would you spend/inherit that kind of capital ($11M/per) on a guy with a now history of back-injury (2 years)… who can no longer bend the edge?
If Quinn were to have hit FA, we all know his price wouldn’t reach anywhere CLOSE to $11M/per.
You know that for sure?
because you know that shortly after the trade is official he’ll be signing an extension which is going to lower that cap hit to nowhere near that $11M figure. And, the back injury was only 1 yr and was minor.
Tim Knight says:
March 5, 2018 at 4:34 pm
There were other teams interested in trading for him too. Maybe just maybe …
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Maybe, just maybe is right. And as FA draws closer, we’re seeing more and more DEs with a good history being released as cap casualties… who we could sign at OUR price, not by giving up a draft pick(s) while buying up another team’s debt.
Had I mentioned that we’re already in salary cap HELL under Tannenbaum?
We won’t be when it’s all said and done.
that’s all about to change with the moves they’ll be making. get ready.
name them
yep. can choose from Ridley, Miller and Kirk in the draft and Robinson and Matthews in free agency. why would you spend that kind of money on Landry? nuts
I like Christian Kirk
yes and also also DJ Chark
Yes sir! If Arizona doesn’t get their QB via F/A and one of the top QBs is available at 11 a trade down is possible.
In that scenario Miami gets 15 and Arizona’s 2nd. Then let’s say Seattle wants to trade up to 15 to get Mike McGlinchey so they can keep Russell Wilson alive this season, Miami gets 18 and Seattle’s 2nd or 3rd. Miami could then take position of need (should be an immediate starter at TE/interior OL available at 18), BPA, or even trade back again if they get an offer. I think this draft is shaping up a lot like 2013, not much elite talent early but plenty if impact in the later-half of the first & early 2nd.
Posted by Dolfan Lee on Mar 5, 2018 | 1:47 PM
there isn’t going to be a top qb available at #11.
Sounds like a good scenario to me. Always a trade down fan, but those teams may reach up to take whatever QB is left and pay to do it. We are lucky to be set with Tanny for now and have him on the relative cheap.
Oh yeah!! We’re so lucky. lol
Obviously not lucky overall with the holes, but lucky we have Tanny signed for a decent price.
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
March 5, 2018 at 4:43 pm
name them
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$#!t, Bro! Many have yet to be cut being we haven’t even entered FA!
THIS is what I’m talking about regarding Tannenbaum being IMPULSIVE. Let it all play out.
And I think YOU — more so than anyone else — KNOWS what I’m talking about!!!
I’m just not seeing any DE’s that can be cap casualties that are a better option. Maybe that’s the way they looked at it. They most likely have access to everyone’s contract info and are looking at guys are free agents plus those who could become free agents and just felt trading for Quinn was their best option.
Ridley may be a Dolphins fan, but he won’t be playing for them. I don’t see a WR being one of our top 4 picks. I see OL, TE, LB and RB
I agree. But, with Landry leaving you never know
stangerx says:
March 5, 2018 at 5:14 pm
…We are lucky to be set with Tanny for now and have him on the relative cheap.
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That’s all a matter of perspective. Ya see… as Peter King noted (taking a page out of MY book), once Tannehill takes the field again in ’18, he’ll be closer to TWO years off the field. Admit, y’all thought I was being melodramatic until Peter King said it. SMH
AND… Tannehill is the #2 $$$/per, behind Suh on our Phins (and our bloated salary problems). “New QB $$$” or not, Tannehill will be one of the highest paid players in the NFL in ’18… even after Kirk Cousins signs a new deal.
Your “relative cheap” is all a matter of perspective. I’d say, we’re not so lucky when looking at production vs $$$.
He’s a 29 year old QB, which puts him right at franchise age going into his prime. You don’t like him then look to trade him. Guarantee with his contract and ability that it will be what we get for him rather than looking for some team to eat his contract for us.
LOL… now ya sound like Prof Lou!
we ain’t getting shit for him in a trade. Phins fans are the only people who value this guy. we put him out there in a trade and we’ll be “lucky” to get a 3rd rd pick for him.
Actually, I think both you and Peter King are being melodramatic….
I don’t think so. I want Tannehill to be our QB in ’18… and he WILL be.
I’ve a VERY high confidence in Tanny in rebounding. HOWEVER… in the event he regresses, it would be WISE to draft an early QB. It’s all about insurance, bud.
Rebounding? He can’t even play football and you think he can play basketball? gheesh!
You and Lou been having Mohitos at brunch again?
no but it sounds good. haven’t had one in awhile.
LOL
Namath’s best moment in sports was when he told Susie Kulber he wanted to kiss her.
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Actually Lou
Tannehill is quite a good basketball player, as could be guessed with his speed and graceful athleticism.
No less than his ex college teammate MBennett says Ryan could stuff a basketball better than anyone else on the football team.
I’m thrilled for him.
An AFC team offered a 2nd to Philly for Foles. Wouldn’t it be great?!!! hehehehe
A 2nd AND a 4th, the way I heard it.
Eagles are asking a 1st and a 4th. An AFC team offered a 2nd
If I was a betting man (I’m not), I’d say Foles isn’t going anywhere, he’s staying in Philly. They need him, and he’s in a good situation there. He may start the season, and Philly knows they have a competent backup in case Wentz isn’t ready, or has a setback
I said the same thing just after the SB. He’s too valuable to Philly at this time to let him go. Probably the reason the asking price is so high. They’ll let him go but it’s not going to be cheap to get him.
I really don’t think he wants to leave either. He’s found a home and that’s more important.
Haven’t we been thru this with Tannehill already? There’s no way we can trade him until he shows he’s healthy, and his knee isn’t an issue, and it would probably take at least the entire preseason to convince teams that was the case. In other words, he’s not getting traded.
^^^
he just did. where have you been?
In the family room, why? Did they go and trade him when I wasn’t looking?
yep. to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
If we traded Tannehill to Winnipeg, sounds like we got pucked on that trade.
Both “pucked” and “blue-balled”.
That joke “bombed”
I’m all for swinging for the fences with drafting a QB. As I’ve said before, worse happens is RT stays QB..
If we get one of the top guys (and not against) think it includes Tanny going elsewhere.
only one guy I’m interested in trading up for if it’s a qb. Rosen.
If we’re trading up to #8 with CHI it’s not going to get us a qb so it’s got to be one of the defensive players like Edmunds or Smith. I can’t see it being Nelson because we don’t value offensive linemen that much and guards even less.
Mike E — heck yeah Tanny has trade value. Even Prof Lou says he does. Maximizing what he is worth might be different — but we’ve all seen what he can do. And his contract would come with little guaranteed or much accumulated hit on ours. Think by far more likely is that they redo him and and make him our QB for the next 2 or 3 years while helping with our cap situation, but a tradeable asset he is.
You really think an NFL GM is going to trade for him w/o knowing how he plays on his knee? I don’t think there’s a shot in hell of that happening. He has value once he proves he’s healthy, and play like he did, not until then, IMO
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So who thinks the Steelersmare going to pay Bell north of $10M a year. Not this armchair GM.
Stanger and Prof Lou,
Tannehill’s trade-value has YET to be determined (IF he’s even being ‘dangled’), until he can show and prove that he’s recovered from a two-time knee injury that’s displaced him 21 months from the playing field.
Again, it’s ALL FUN AND GAMES when I say it, but when “little Peter” says it, it becomes so-called “REAL”. SMH
Ryan Tannehill is our starting QB for the ’18 season. Unless he has a setback, that’s not going to change.
98% chance you are right that Tanny starts, but that other 2% is what the offseason is about. And he has real trade value, even if don’t think we tap into it unless we get one of the top guys. Maybe not franchise QB, but Tanny is trained and ready to lead a team. Only so many of those around. I don’t take ACL injuries nearly as serious these days, least not when it comes to QBs rather than RBs.
I’m sure RT will have forgotten how to play after missing 1 1/4 seasons. What kind of crap is that? It’s as if nobody has ever come back from an ACL surgery. Geez!
It’s new and strange this ACL surgery thing. Voodoo…black magic…
*Tannehomer* = EVERYBODY recovers like Adrian Peterson
This coming from the guy who still wanted us to draft Jaylon Smith who tore everything in his knee in a bowl game. Brady and Flacco both did and nobody is writing off Wentz. But RT is the biggest concern ever.
RT isn’t going anywhere in 2018. Even if they hit a home run with a rookie QB, They’ll keep RT until next year.
^ not because of homerism or haters, just because that will be the case. 🙂
When did Wentz get hurt and what’s his 9-12 month timeline? I know it happened later in the season so he might not be ready for a portion of the season. But he will be back. Can’t move Foles in at this time unless a team pays a king’s ransom.
Tim – I didn’t say Tannehill won’t, or can’t play well, I just said no one would trade for him until he proved he can play like he did.
I agreed. That’s what ^ was for.
Never mind, I misunderstood your Tannehill forgot how to play comment, I thought it was partly in response to my comment
No Peter King’s comments.
Tim Knight says:
March 5, 2018 at 6:46 pm
This coming from the guy who still wanted us to draft Jaylon Smith who tore everything in his knee in a bowl game. Brady and Flacco both did and nobody is writing off Wentz. But RT is the biggest concern ever.
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I didn’t say that RT is the biggest concern ever. We might re-sign James, and as YOU already stated, we had cats that played VERY well down the stretch.
What does the OL have to do with how his knee healed?
M13, Peterson came back in 9 months from his injury to start opening day. RT will be at 12 months by the PS in August. All reports are he’s ahead of schedule and Gase recently said he’s a freak. He’s already doing football stuff.
Good to hear about James! Re-sign him!!!
Why do you keep saying James?
Tim – Matt Harvey looked pretty good today. He wasn’t throwing especially hard, but he changed speeds well, and was locating well for the most part.
Cool! What’s the stuff with Noah? I keep catching the convo about him on WFAN when I don’t know WTF they’re talking about.
Not sure what stuff about Syndergaard you’re talking about. He’ll probably end up pitching the opener, because deGrom probably won’t be ready. Was it about that?
I don’t see any of these rookies being able to unseat RT17. Sit them behind, let them learn and challenge 2019 if they get one.
If one is able to, then that’s great.
But my money is on Lou not tuning into 1 game next year.
Tim Knight says:
March 5, 2018 at 7:07 pm
Why do you keep saying James?
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I like to keep you guessing, TREBECK!
“I’ll take RT for $200…”
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c0a5bb63-475f-404f-aa1b-2e8a993369fd/gif
Because I say RT instead of spelling out Tannehill? Let’s move along. LOL
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Come on Tim….it’s RT17! Lol
Who franchises a kicker?!?!
Easy if you have a good one. Less than $5M.
tannehill traded to Bombers ?! Thats awesome !!! Wait that sux!!! Im SO conflicted !!!!
I could see a lot of change happening on offense this offseason that won’t involve moving RT17. LOL
Seriously though, I could see WR being in play if we move on from Landry. After the FA offseason we’ll have a better sense of what could be on the table in the draft. Also what did we get for Landry? That plays a role in how we conduct business.
If we re-sign Landry scrap that. 🙂
Mike, I have no idea what the Noah stuff is.
The franchise tag isn’t the goal of these players but it doesn’t exactly suck. LOL
You think our situation with Landry is tough?
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 30m30 minutes ago
From @NFLTotalAccess: The #Steelers and RB Le’Veon Bell are not close to a deal… and he wants to be paid properly for his receiving exploits as well as being a RB.
He’s right though, he’s the best dual back in the game.
He wants WR money.
He’s more valuable than any WR in my book. He’s a unique back. The most patient runner I have ever seen. He’s a threat all day long.
Bell is doing what Graham was doing saying he wanted WR money vs TE. It’s going to be interesting….I think Bell deserves to make at least as much as AB. He lead the league in touches as well. Dude is not your regular RB.
Yep! If he’s worth $16M is Landry?
Lol. Nope!
Right and nothing wrong with that. Landry is no more than $10-12M to me and that’s because he’s a high catch guy and tough player. He’s not a game breaker. His agent needs to come back down to earth. Even that is overpaying in my opinion but I get it.
whether Tannehill starts or not the team either needs to sign a vet they can trust to run the offense or they need to draft a qb that they feel would be able to get up to speed on the offense quickly because…………
of the obvious. if he goes down again and they did a lot of work to get the team to where they want it before the season begins so they can be competitive then the whole year is shot again. that’s from their point of view, by the way. you all know how I feel about him so the season is shot anyway. lol
Did Landry sign the tag yet?
Yes
Here’s our cap with Landry on the franchise tag, the Quinn trade and no releases yet. Much will change in the next couple of weeks.
That said it’s not a great FA market and you get draft allocation. Simmer down on the cap, it’s never as bad as it seems. It really isn’t. Who are we losing or can’t re-sign because of it? Also who is it hampering us from signing? Anyone?!!!
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/cap/
you DON’T get draft allocation. it’s part of the cap!!
They added draft money into total….
I thought Timmons would not have any dead money because of his contract violation?
no they don’t. look at the allocation on the sidebar on the Spotrac site. they subtract the allocation from the total; not add it in.
Rookie compensation pool, it always works. 😉
the rookie compensation pool is part of the teams cap. you do not get that money in addition to what you have to spend on your cap. it is an amount you are allowed to spend on rookies per the cba. a team is allotted that amount based on projected draft picks. they are only allowed to spend so much on rookies.
again, the team doesn’t get any additional money to spend on the rookies. you subtract that rookie compensation pool from your total available cap to give you what you have remaining to spend elsewhere.
The Steelers have to stop drafting so well…lol
Pretty much. LOL
I don’t want to get caught up in the cap so much because I don’t know enough about it from the inside or outside. But it’s not static. Many of what is on our books now can be relieved a bit and then in future years voided. Cap is not our issue, roster moves are. What will be the 53 on opening day? How does the team perform? I’m more interested in seeing our core of vets and young players jelling and what we do in the draft then FA dollars. I don’t think we’ll be big players anyway. Never did. Maybe plug a hole here and there until a young guy is ready.
Landry is our biggest obstacle and that will work itself out one way or the other.
when did Landry sign his tag?
I didn’t say he did. I have no idea.
Not sure, but it is being listed as signed
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/miami-dolphins/2018/81fa4b0e77526c8a325d27335f559ce2/
And like that Miami is $27.7M under the cap
Fuck Tannenbaum. You’re hired.
Woohoo! Do I get my own parking space?
Please run that through the capologists here on this blog because we are in holy hell or bigger cuts are coming. 😉
Great work Phelon! I can dig it!
People keep forgetting that if after 2018 if our team doesn’t have a good year, we can easily be a top cap team the next few years. Why are we concerned with 2019 and 2020? Do you want to compete and try to win this year or just keep jerking off about draft picks and future fantasies? Holy Smoke!!! We need a song. Cheesy yes… but great Hard Rock/Metal. 😉
My work here is done.
I still thought Timmons carries no dead money??
No it would have been like $6M. He screwed up his bonus going awol. Still some residual left over.
Ok thanks.
As fans we need to realize 2017 did not go according to plan. Why keep harping on it? It was a shit season and lots of turmoil and changes happening. Just write off the 2017 season, it sucked!!!
That doesn’t mean there is nothing to build on in 2018. Stay away from dark cloud, it’s a nasty fucker. 😉
It was prob one of the most craziest….hurricanes, cocaine, awols, acls, announcer QB,……lol
All the shit we talk about with this team with this move and that. It’s on Gase. He has to win again and show Ross he was the right choice. All this start over nonsense is just that. Not in 2018.
we won’t be rebuilding this offseason
but I do thin its possible we draft a qb in the 1st round
They got to get one sometime.
Has nothing to do with who we draft. Any position is open for BPA. We need a backup QB and developmental type anyway. The team is not being constructed to blow it up is all I’m saying. See the forest for the trees. 😉
Tim,
if what you say is true, that they’re not blowing it up this season, that they’re going out there to win then they are going to do it with a quarterback that gives them the best chance to do that and that quarterback isn’t tannehill.
this team will be aggressive and go up to get one of the quarterbacks in this draft and my money is on Rosen. tannehill may be in camp this year but when they get their qb in the draft he’s not going to be around much longer.
I don’t understand how they could want to try and build to win this year and stay with the status quo. tannehill doesn’t do anything for them if they’re going to try and win games and for Gase to show Ross he’s the right person for the job.
Tim,
Landry’s leaving. So that creates a hole with our wr’s. What would you say if we traded Parker and signed Robinson and Jordan Matthews? You gotta admit that would be a lot better than what we’ve got now. So, I do believe you can “blow it up” without blowing it up.
I’m not saying the above scenario is going to happen or has any chance of happening but that’s an example of what I’m talking about. When people think of “blowing it up” they think you’re starting from scratch and that’s not necessarily true. You can blow it up and get better as well.
So, what I’m saying is I think the Phins are looking at what Roseman did in Philly and are going to try and emulate that this offseason and, if they are going to put all those resources into getting the team “close” to try and win now then Tannehill doesn’t fit what they want to do. Win now. Because they aren’t going to win now with Tannehill.
I would love for the team to target Robinson in free agency. He’s in Florida with the Jags and probably loves the warm weather an the lifestyle so we would probably have the upper hand in negotiations. He’s an outside guy so if we did decide to give Parker another shot then Stills could work inside. He’s very good at it.
In any case, Robinson would be one of my top targets in free agency.
Money talks. When season ticket holders cancel their tickets, the money screams.
BL – Stills does okay in the slot when he can use his speed to blow by the defender, but he is not making the tough catches across the middle. I think they roll with what they have, maybe sign an UDFA or a very late round pick.
As for Tannehill, he is at worst a slightly above average QB. Worse QB have won the Super Bowl. I also think they are going to draft one of the top 4 (Allen, Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield) and I’m okay with that. If they hit, awesome. If not, it’s just one a draft pick. No team lives or dies on one pick. But if they don’t at least try, they will never find that elite QB.
Personally, I think they want Mayfield for the fire he brings. Conversely, Rosen’s mouth may be a turn off for them (see my previous post on kneelers). I think they will take whichever of the four that is available whenever they pick. Whenever, because I don’t rule out a trade down.
I’m not seeing it. I think they’re going to be aggressive and try to get a turn around here and that means they’re going to do some things to get this team up to snuff quickly.
So be ready.
Ross said what Rockphin has been saying all along,”stand the fuck up”.
Phelon I’ll buy you a beer Tuesday for a Cheeseburger today?
Only if it is a spinach beer.
https://twitter.com/PhinsComNews/status/971034617372401664
So because many people have misunderstood (or chosen to not hear) the original intention of the protests, and because one very loud person has capitalized on that misunderstanding (or willful ignorance) and people have chosen to adopt that version, the Dolphins will not be sanctioning peaceful protest this year.
Straight from the snowflakes at Profootballtalk?
We really need to get rid of ProfLou. The dolphins will never win anything as long as he is a fan.
We can blow the whole thing up and start from scratch, but it won’t do anything as long as Lou is a fan. They can get the best QB in this draft and it would help the team as long as Lou is a fan.
We can get the best O line and tight end available in this draft, but it won’t matter. as long as Lou is a fan.
LOL
You got it
Does Lou have any trade value?
Not sure I’d want to go all in on Allen Robinson. He had 1 year (2015) where he blew it up, both him and Allen Hurns tore it up, Robinson averaging 17+ per catch and Hurns 16+ per catch. Thing is, neither of them have come close to replicating that, so basically Robinson is putting up similar numbers to Landry, with less receptions, PLUS, he’s coming off an injury. So why pay Robinson what we don’t want to pay Landry?
Not a bad deal for either party. Ivory is solid. Le’Veon is gonna get tagged today because he wants $16M per. It just ain’t gonna happen, although if any back is worth that kind of $$$, he is.
Ross in a statement: “I have no intention of forcing our players to stand during the anthem, and I regret that my comments have been misconstrued.” Am sure he will give the players to either stand on the field or wait in the locker room until after like before.
I would not touch a QB that already has had concussion issues
That oughta do it! DAMN!
No doubt! I think Cousins to Minnesota is all but official at this point.
Yeah, it meets his winning team criteria, as well as the shit-ton of money criteria
That’s the best fit for him to win now.
Lou, retooling some areas of the team is not the same as blowing it up. If you’re blowing it up you don’t sign vets to long-term contracts and trade for vet players making good money. That’s all I’m saying.
sure is.
I guess we have a difference of opinion of what blowing it up means.
I have to disagree on getting one of the top QB’s. I do not want to see us use our 1st on a QB. To me, none of them impress me any more than White or Ferguson who can be drafted later.
I don’t think one will be there anyway. There’s a lot of buzz that teams will look to trade up for the top ones and I think it’s a legit buzz.
If Cousins signs with the Vikes or some other team, the Jets are gonna have $90 mil in cap room sitting there. Gonna be mentioned in pretty much every top end FA conversation.
I’m getting the impression that Wyo wants us to draft Josh Allen . . .
Homer….
Not at all. ( Well ya it would be pretty cool)!
I guess we can pencil cousins is as the Vikings qb
That means Bradford, Keemun and bridgewater all hit the market
I wonder if any team would sign them with intent to make them a starter and therefore not draft a qb?
Also A.J. McCarron is available
pheloniusphish says:
March 6, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Does Lou have any trade value?
Philly says they will absorb his cap hit, but only if we keep him.
Any chance we get more Iron Maiden clips
May I suggest that spending $11.4M on Robert Quinn and his back injuries (plus a 4th round Draft pick) would have been wiser spent on Andrew Norwell… who’s market value is $11.7M?
Now follow me… it seems clear that we don’t want to $pend on the Guard position. I think we’d rather pay ‘rookie contract $$$’ for a non-impact position such as Guard. Seems we have still have interest in trading up — using Jarvis Landry as the bait — with a WR-needy team like the Bears @ R1P8.
And the MORE we’re seemingly pounding the table for a QB, the MORE teams are going to want to get a QB before we select. This — coupled with Cousins looking like he’s going to Minny — could force 4 QBs to go before we’d select at R1P8 (assuming we trade up to the Bears).
So 4 QBs before us, plus Nick Chubb and Saquon Barkley going top-5, probably pushes a certain OG down to us, who’d otherwise and almost assuredly be off the board @ R1P11.
Let me cut to the chase: could we be targeting Quenton Nelson in a trade-up? I’m just trying to think outside of the box, here…
Do you know Demarcus Lawrence has had two back surgeries? I’m mentioning it because you used him as an example yesterday when saying Tannenabaum was impulsive trading for Quinn.
No, I didn’t know that about Lawrence. Interesting!
I still maintain that Tannenbaum was impulsive in trading for Quinn. There will be more acorns falling off the trees before it’s all said and done.
I don’t think that’s outside the box at all, I think we’d love to be in a spot to get Nelson, but even being at #8 doesn’t make it a certainty
If you are suggesting we trade Landry to get a better shot at drafting Nelson – I think that’s crazy
If we are going to trade Landry, trade him for picks
Do we really need Nelson like he is the holy grail
It would drafting Hernandez or Price help us address our interior OL
We need picks for Landry not to move up a few spots bc we are consumed with one particular player
The worst thing a GM can do is fall in love with 1 guy
Ricky Williams, when he was drafted by Ditka, is a great example of that
He ends up having a great career but the Saints regret that move
Speaking of the Bears…
could we be targeting Quenton Nelson in a trade-up?
Why? He has been there in every mock draft I have done. (Being silly suggesting mock drafts have any bearing on real life)
He’s in all my mocks too
But it’s realistic he won’t be come draft day
He is one of the premier players of the draft
But I think it’s silly to fall in love with one prospect
You got to have a few guys in the range you are picking
We can get interior OL in the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th round
M13, Norwell wasn’t coming to Miami. He has connections to the Giants with new GM Dave Gettleman and OC Mike Shula from Carolina.
Connections, conschmections… IF the price is right, that means NOTHING. And I think you’re missing my greater point: we can’t afford Norwell now that we’ve traded for Quinn.
I’m not trying to sound like a d!ck, I’m just sayin’ that the Norwell ship has sailed with trading for Quinn.
It wasn’t happening anyway. We will have more cap once we resolve some other issues.
Piggy – I don’t think we’d trade Landry in return for moving up 3 spots. It would have to be a player too, or another pick
Also, at #8, you may have a shot at one of the QB’s, Tremaine Edmunds, Roquan Smith, so there would be a lot of good choices there.
Exactly! I would trade Landry to move up. Maybe we get a mid rd pick as well.
I don’t think we’re going to get a lot of compensation for Landry. We just want to get something for him rather than let him walk. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rd pick.
If you let him walk you will get a compensatory pick down the line anyway
A 3rd round pick is a failure
You’ll get that back in a couple of years anyway
Remember philly traded with us to move up
But that was players they wanted to get rid of
Nothing like Landry caliber
I don’t think so either
I would be furious if we did that and it doesn’t matter how good Nelson is
That’s a leap of faith of colossal leaping
We’ll see what his market is.
Here are 14 of the the free agent quarterbacks Gase may deem worth evaluating:
(We have chosen to sort them by career quarterback rating.)
Teddy Bridgewater, 26, Minnesota Vikings, $1.7 million in 2017, 28 starts (17-11), 86.3 rating
Mike Glennon, 28, Chicago Bears, $15 million in 2017, 22 starts (6-16), 83.2 rating
Chase Daniel, 31, New Orleans Saints, $900,000 in 2017, 2 starts (1-1), 81.1 rating
Josh McCown, 38, New York Jets, $6 million in 2017, 73 starts (23-50), 80.8 rating
Ryan Fitzpatrick, 35, Tampa Bay Bucs, $3 million in 2017, 119 starts (48-70-1), 79.9 rating
Brandon Weeden, 34, Tennesee Titans, $775,000 in 2017, 25 starts (6-19), 76.0 rating
Chad Henne, 32, Jacksonville Jaguars, $3.3 million in 2017, 53 starts (18-35), 75.5 rating
Mark Sanchez, 31, Chicago Bears, $2 million in 2017, 72 starts (37-35), 73.9 rating
Geno Smith, 27, New York Giants, $1.2 million in 2017, 31 starts (11-19), 72.9 rating
Tom Savage, 27, Houston Texans, $630,000 in 2017, 9 starts (2-7), 72.5 rating
Derek Anderson, 34, Carolina Panthers, $2.4 million in 2017, 47 starts (20-27), 71.1 rating
T.J. Yates, 30, Houston Texans, $775,000 in 2017, 10 starts (4-6), 70.7 rating
Drew Stanton, 33, Arizona Cardinals, $3.3 million in 2017, 17 starts (11-6), 66.3 rating
Matt Barkley, 27, Arizona Cardinals, $775,000 in 2017, 6 starts (1-5), 63.7 rating