The Wedge Scouting Report: Christian Kirk, Texas A&M

 

(Wedge is crying by a fire)

I can’t believe they would do that to me!

Why!!!!

WedgeMourns

WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME DOLPHINS!!!

First Ajayi and now Landry…

What is a devastated Alien to do…

…Except talk about other draft prospects like Texas A&M receiver Christian Kirk

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The Positives: A lot of experts are calling Kirk the best slot receiver in the draft.  He was very productive at Texas A&M in his three years there.  He caught over 80 passes in his first two seasons with the Aggies and his final season wasn’t half bad either with 66 catches.  Kirk cgained just below 2,800 yards in those three years and caught 26 TDs.

The Texas A&M offense isn’t the most explosive offense – but Kirk was used a lot of different ways.  He went deep, ran a ton of bubble screens, was used on reverses (he had 21 total carries for 121 rushing yards) and was a kick returner on special teams.

Kirk has solid hands.  Not a lot of bad drops on his tape.  His hands measured in at 9 7/8ths at the combine.

 But Kirk’s biggest strength like a certain recently departed Dolphins was gaining yards after the catch – YAC!  Kirk made a lot of defenders look silly with broken tackles and poor guesses.  Kirk is a strong runner and a strong player – he had the 4th best bench press reps among receivers at the combine.  So you can see why Kirk as a slot receiver seems like natural fit.

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The Negatives:  Well the first thing I should point out:  WHY DO WE NEED A RECEIVER?!?!?  This gripe is not about Kirk as a player, its about the loss of Landry which this alien just can’t get over.  I thought I was done begging the Dolphins to draft receivers but….

Kirk isn’t a big receiver (5’10) and while he had a respectable 40 yard dash at 4.47, that does not put him in the class of an elite speed demon.  Kirk is notable for his lateral quickness but not his vertical speed.  There are some questions as to whether he can stretch the field at the next level.

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The Alien Dust:  The Dolphins have a lot of needs but drafting a player like Kirk can go a long way in replacing Jarvis Landry.  And when push comes to shoe, Kirk might be better at stretching the field than Landry ever once.

The big issue is do the Dolphins spend a high pick on a receiver?  Kirk can go anywhere between mid first to early 3rd.  If the Dolphins trade down in the first round or Kirk is available into the 2nd round – I think he might be a viable pick (if the Dolphins have not signed another receiver in free agency)

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Well it’s not the most devastating weapon – but right now, right now I just need Christian Kirk to be my handkerchief.

(Wedge begins to cry again)

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988 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Christian Kirk, Texas A&M

  1. mf13ss says:

    ———–
    So Bradford and Glennon in the desert…

  2. The Flying Pig says:

    Did we sign a kicker yet

    I really have to know what sort of pics to post

  3. Randy says:

    phelon
    I think Bridgewater is still a major injury question. His injury was extremely severe, and he’s really not been asked to play a ton to see if it doesn’t blow up. I think they will probably still be looking to draft a QB in the first. At least, I would, I guess.

  4. well, I’ll take Wilson and his contract over Grant and what the Ravens are giving him any day

  5. Mike E. says:

    M – Please let it happen (TE in the 2nd) I would be so excited!

  6. mf13ss says:

    So as it stands with the Broncos…

    Case Keenum, Paxton Lynch, and Trevor Siemian at QB. I can’t see them drafting a QB @ R1P5, and they just re-upped Demaryius Thomas today… they’re going to take Quenton Nelson… BET.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t think draft a qb makes too much sense looking at that either – unless they are ready to give up on Lynch or Siemen

  7. The Flying Pig says:

    So if the broncos are out of an market
    And the jests (McCown and Bridgewater) are out

    Who is in that drafts before 11?

  8. Randy says:

    Piggy,
    McCown is a backup, placeholder. Bridgewater is still a major injury question mark. If Bridgewater doesn’t play good or stay healthy, the yets have nothing at QB. I don’t think QB is out of the question for them. Zimmer loved the kid like a son, by all accounts, and MN still let him go.

  9. mf13ss says:

    The way I see, as of TODAY…

    – The Browns will draft a QB
    – The stej will draft a QB
    – The Bills will trade up for a QB

    This paves the way for us — SHOULD we sit @ R1P11 — to draft the 4th of the ‘Big-4’ QBs… at least in theory… but ya never know how the draft will play out.

    If fortune is with us, the Browns will decide to trade for Suh in exchange for R1P4 before we officially release him tomorrow, preventing a bidding war on the open market. However… I wouldn’t hold my breathe on that happening.

  10. Ken says:

    Both Broncos and Jets will be in the market for a 1st round QB. McCown and Bridgewater are not long term solutions. Denver I believe has given up on Lynch and knows Siemens is strictly backup material. Keenum is a nice player but not a franchise caliber talent. Denver is in a position to land a franchise caliber QB in the draft and then have him sit a year or 2 behind Keenum

  11. Randy says:

    Piggy,
    I’m just saying I think it’s certainly still a possibility. Bridgewater is by no means a sure thing. It all depends on what they think of these QBs in the draft. They could be swinging for the fences with Bridgewater…playing it safe with McCown…and willing to wait to take a QB next year if it all blows up in their faces too. I’d play it by ear and see who’s sitting there when you pick….then decide if your guy isn’t there trade out or go another direction, They have options.

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    11: R1P11
    QB JOSH ROSEN
    UCLA
    42: R2P10
    TE MIKE GESICKI
    PENN STATE
    73: R3P9
    RB ROYCE FREEMAN
    OREGON
    123: R4P23
    DL POONA FORD
    TEXAS
    130: R4P30
    C JAMES DANIELS
    IOWA
    198: R6P24
    TE RYAN IZZO
    FLORIDA STATE
    223: R7P5
    LB JACK CICHY
    WISCONSIN
    229: R7P11
    LB DORIAN O’DANIEL
    CLEMSON

  13. ElephantRider says:

    I don’t think anybody wants to trade for Suh and his contract. He’s going to fetch much less this time around.

  14. mf13ss says:

    Round 1

    1: Browns- Josh Allen or Sam Darnold
    2: Giants- Saquon Barkley
    3: Colts- Bradley Chubb
    4: Browns- (traded to the Bills): Josh Allen or Sam Darnold
    5: Broncos- Quenton Nelson
    6: stej- Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen
    7: Bucs- Minkah Fitzpatrick
    8: Bears- Calvin Ridley
    9: 49ers- Tremaine Edmunds
    10: Raiders- Roquan Smith
    11: Phins- Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen

  15. mf13ss says:

    Round 1

    1: Browns- Josh Rosen or Sam Darnold
    2: Giants- Saquon Barkley
    3: Colts- Bradley Chubb
    4: Browns- (traded to the Bills): Josh Rosen or Sam Darnold
    5: Broncos- Quenton Nelson
    6: stej- Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen
    7: Bucs- Minkah Fitzpatrick
    8: Bears- Calvin Ridley
    9: 49ers- Tremaine Edmunds
    10: Raiders- Roquan Smith
    11: Phins- Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen

  16. The Flying Pig says:

    So you have 4 potential suitors for the top 4 QBs including the Dolphins and including a Bills trade up

    Doesn’t that reek of the Dolphins drafting a QB?

    • mf13ss says:

      It all depends, bud. If we like Vita Vea to replace Suh, he could easily be our pick @ R1P11. I’m interested to see where Dontari Poe ends up before the Draft… maybe with us?

  17. mf13ss says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Good
      I don’t want to sign a RB
      Give be Guice, Chubb or Freeman please

      Or if I have to settle for a day 3 pick John Kelly

  18. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:34 pm
    I probably just prefer an offensive-centric draft
    ——–
    And I’m 100% with ya on that! I hope we land Dontari Poe via FA, allowing us to focus on Offense via the Draft.

    • mf13ss says:

      But I’m willing to bet that Tannenbaum already blew our cap space by signing who we signed today. So unless we have some kind of ‘sweetheart deal’ in place with Poe, he’ll be gone by the time we regain cap space, post-June 1st.

    • Mike E. says:

      If we don’t address DT in FA, the draft falls like a rock on DT after RD1. Big drop off, although I like Harrison Phillips in RD2, but that’s our TE RD, so no can do!

      I’m with you and Piggy – Let’s fix the offense in the draft!

  19. Mike E. says:

    Godchaux isn’t bad at all, but both of them probably need to be rotated out more than Suh did.

  20. Randy says:

    Geez, we just spent our whole draft on offense two years ago. Do we have to do it again? Lol

  21. The Flying Pig says:

    Here yoi go mike…lol

  22. mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:48 pm
    he’d be fine as a 2nd TE, but we need a Gesicki, Hurst or Goedert
    ————-
    ^^^ THIS!!! ^^^

  23. wyoming85 says:

  24. wyoming85 says:

    Man what a fuckin day!
    I’m going to bed now!

  25. mf13ss says:

  26. Tim Knight says:

    There are some quality big, pass catching TEs who can run in this draft. Why are they not in the 1st round discussion? Or are they? 😉

    • mf13ss says:

      I don’t think so. Gesicki is probably the only one of 1st round caliber… despite his lack of blocking ability. He killed the Combine as I predicted, and then you go back to his tape.

      Dude… he’s STELLAR.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I’m a big fan. But my question is if you think this guy is one the next best TEs to take him late 1st or 2nd rd, why can’t you have conviction about him at say #11? If it’s not that big of a difference in range of talent and I’m not sure that it is, go for it. People say well you never go TE that early but then say you need that big pass catching TE. LOL

      • mf13ss says:

        Gesicki isn’t good enough to warrant R1P11. As I stated, he’s no blocker. Now if he could block like Vernon Davis coming out, he’d certainly be in the convo as an EARLY 1st rounder… but that’s not the case.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He’s a big receiver. Many other pass catching TEs didn’t get drafted for that either. If you envision him as that big threat, why not?

        What’s your #11-20?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Bc most of them are at best late first rounders

      The TE class will really heat up in rounds 2-4

  27. Tim Knight says:

    Jordy Nelson to the Raiders?

    • ElephantRider says:

      I believe more people are upset here about losing Nelson than we are losing Landry.

      They are going youth up here….plus Arod about to get PAID

  28. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:24 pm
    …What’s your #11-20?
    ————-
    I don’t do “Big Boards” or “Draft Boards”, but I can tell ya this… all of these recent moves are going to change my mocks.

    • mf13ss says:

      When you ask me a question like that, it makes me WANT to do a “Draft board”. I never have to date, and I keep telling myself that I’ll do one, one of these days.

  29. Tim Knight says:

    Let me reiterate, if you’re a GM and you really believe one or a few of the TEs in this draft are going to be nightmare guys to cover, why not have them high on your board? It’s the biggest mismatch position in the game. We watch half a coveted 1st round flame out in a few years year after while many 2nd and 3rd rd picks outplay them. Why?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      NOne of them are viewed in the same class as an OJ Howard was

      Also it might be a product of saturation bc there are a lot of good ones
      But they all have little flaws
      Hurst is older
      Goedert is a small school guy
      Fumagalii has 4 freaking fingers
      None of them really have outstanding stats

      Andrews might be the most complete
      Personally I like Gesicki

      • Tim Knight says:

        Who are we drafting them over is my question? Who’s so great from #11 thru 20? Is Derwin James a better TE defender than Gesicki the TE himself?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Honestly the middle of the 1st round doesn’t seem much better than the 2nd round

        I happen to like Guice and Derwin James
        Also guys like Calvin Ridley

        But then I don’t know
        Maybe some pass rushers?

  30. mf13ss says:

  31. Tim Knight says:

    M13, if certain prospects that we have regurgitated over and over stay top 10 and as Lou says, we get stuck with sloppy seconds lol, who jumps out at you? With the release of Suh I see DT becoming a possibility in the 1st rd but not necessarily. You don’t always have to go tit for tat.

  32. ElephantRider says:

    Hurst or bust

  33. naplesfan2010 says:

    Starter level DTs who will go in round 1: Da’Ron Payne, Vita Vea, Taven Bryan
    Round 2: Tim Settle, Harrison Phillips, Derrick Nnadi,

    The next tier are rotational guys.
    Round 3-4: Deadrick Senat, BJ Hill, RJ McIntosh
    Round 6: Kendrick Norton, Trenton Thompson

    About 6-7 other guys in the 7th round or UDFA all have almost zero starter potential.

    There are no others i would draft or sign that I know of.

    *Maurice Hurst has a heart (?) ailment and might be out of football.

  34. naplesfan2010 says:

    Tim and MF13 if I may interject?
    I do think a bold move would be to grab a TE (Gesicki) in the first, but what if he busts?
    That is why you must take a Vita Vea, or Da’Ron Payne, because the chances of them busting are very slim. Even Taven Bryan is scary to take for your only round one pick.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The draft is usually a gamble outside of a few prospects. Some are great, some are solid, some bounce around in time and others disappear. Happens every year. That rhymes by the way. LOL

  35. naplesfan2010 says:

    That is why it is scary to think of picking Billy Price or Will Hernandez in round 1. What if they don’t bust but are just ordinary? Then you have wasted your only round 1 pick on an ordinary guard.

    To me your round one pick must have a strong potential to be a pro bowl player at a game-changing position, or you have wasted the chance.

  36. ElephantRider says:

    84M fully guaranteed is just crazy!

  37. mf13ss says:

    Naples,

    Fact of the matter is that ANYONE could BUST… whether it be due to injury, character, or otherwise. That’s why it’s said that the Draft is a “crap-shoot”.

    I don’t disagree with ya! Let us hope that we choose… WISELY.

  38. naplesfan2010 says:

    So with that in mind, what about taking a LB who has mad athletics and will be able to disrupt that TE/RB passing game? Such as Leighton vander Esch or Rashaan Evans? They have about a 17% chance of busting, which is worse than those DTs above but not half as risky as most any WR would be.

    Follow that up with Price or Ragnow in round 2 and pray one of your pet TEs falls to you in the 3rd where you hold pick 9 instead of 11.

    • mf13ss says:

      I don’t think one can put a % on busting… especially when it comes to injury in this violent game. But I DO get what you’re saying.

      But I’m sorry… I want my TE to come in the 2nd round this year. Just my preference, nothing more!

  39. naplesfan2010 says:

    I think this year is amazing for TE (and RB).
    There are 6 high quality TEs IMHO:
    Goeddert, Gesicki****, Hurst, Ian Thomas, Andrews, and Schultze.
    Surely one will fall to the R3P9.

  40. Tim Knight says:

    I want my TE to be a playmaker, 1-4 don’t care. Find one already! 🙂

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      absolutely … Look at what Kelce has meant to KC.
      I agree with you.
      I say if we are scared we’ll miss him at R2P10, then trade down and take Gesicki at R1P16 18 or 20.

      The Ravens, Seahawks, or Lions might want to trade up to get what they need.

  41. Mike E. says:

    ER – I read that as Hurst or burst! I think that’s the way it should be. 🙂

  42. The Flying Pig says:

    Stephen Hawking just died

  43. Tim Knight says:

    When it’s all said and done some of the TEs in this draft might be better players than the QBs that will go early. Add a playmaker at TE to our offense and we will move the ball and score. Yes we all know the OL needs to get corrected. LOL

  44. The Flying Pig says:

  45. The Flying Pig says:

  46. Tim Knight says:

    11: R1P11 RB DERRIUS GUICE LSU
    42: R2P10 C JAMES DANIELS IOWA
    73: R3P9 TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA
    123: R4P23 C WILL CLAPP LSU
    130: R4P30 LB JEROME BAKER OHIO ST.
    198: R6P24 TE HAYDEN HURST S. CAROLINA
    223: R7P5 QB RILEY FERGUSON MEMPHIS
    229: R7P11 QB LUKE FALK WASH. STATE

    Really? LOL

  47. ElephantRider says:

    We should be enjoying our cheap corners.

  48. ElephantRider says:

    The double down draft……

    11: R1P11
    RB DERRIUS GUICE
    LSU

    42: R2P10
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    73: R3P9
    C BILLY PRICE
    OHIO ST.

    123: R4P23
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    S. CAROLINA

    130: R4P30
    TE TROY FUMAGALLI
    WISCONSIN

    198: R6P24
    QB KYLE LAULETTA
    RICHMOND

    223: R7P5
    QB KURT BENKERT
    VIRGINIA

    229: R7P11
    EDGE JOJO WICKER
    ARIZONA ST.

  49. 1st rd – Vea or Payne in a trade down
    2n rd – Braden Smith or Ragnow
    3rd rd – Ian Thomas
    3rd rd * – Sean Welsh
    4th rd – Obo Okoronkwo
    4th rd- Kurt Benkert
    5th rd – Jester Weah
    5th rd * – Jordan Akins
    7th rd – Jordan Chunn
    7th rd – Logan Woodside

  50. ElephantRider says:

    The top 4 QBs will be gone by 11.

    So… what do Phins do?

  51. ElephantRider says:

    Tis the season to shit on your team.

  52. wyoming85 says:

    ER
    You hope everyone wants a QB so this guy is available!

  53. wyoming85 says:

    Clarity about the Dolphins’ plan: The team can’t afford to keep Ndamukong Suh or Jarvis Landry, but it can manage to take on a three-year, $24 million deal for Albert Wilson and $8.25 million in guaranteed money for Danny Amendola, along with more than $11 million for Robert Quinn? I can’t blame coach Adam Gase for wanting his guys, but this type of turnover is the problem when an organization makes so many regime changes. By the time one coach and general manager get rid of all the players they don’t want, there is often a new coach or general manager in place.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000921112/article/freeagency-debrief-winners-losers-from-tuesdays-moves

    • ElephantRider says:

      They could have afforded Landry, but didn’t value it. Suh was a financial decision fur sure.

      But he’s right, this is what happens when you blow it up over and over.

      • ElephantRider says:

        But you can see the offensive plan coming together with the new WRs. If Parker was half what he’s supposed to be, this would be a very dangerous group. Hit them quick slants and crossers, then boom outside to Parker or Stills. Throw Grant in there and there’s a lot of speed running around.

  54. The Flying Pig says:

  55. Mike E. says:

    Who’s next? Tannehill dammit! Let our good ole boy Tanny save us some cash, unless of course they plan on trading him or something.

  56. mf13ss says:

  57. ocalarob says:

    They are calling Suh an “individualist” Suh was not a team player, as a June 1 cut they will save 17 mil while carrying 9 mil in Dead money, that 17 mil will be used to sign the draft class and carry the rest over to next year, 2019 they will still have 13 mil in dead money for Suh.

  58. wyoming85 says:

  59. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!

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