Look at that mismatch! That powerful Zork can’t be stopped which is why I released him on that unsuspecting village
You think the Zork is a just a big two handed monster, so you set up your planetary defenses to stop a big strong attack – and the Zork slips right through with unexpected speed.
If you try to set up your defense to stop that speed – the Zork overpowers you.
Just like some of the talented tight ends in the 2018 draft.
One example: Mike Gesicki
The Positives: This is one athletic tight end! First of all this guy can soar. Want to have some fun – google “Mike Gesicki catch” and check out the images of this jumping sky high above defenders.
We’ve seen the NFL make good NFL players out of basketball players. In this case, Gesicki is a volleyball player. Every time he goes up for a catch, it looks like he is going to spike it. But his 10 1/8 inch hands pull the ball in softly.
Oh and he’s fast. Gesicki ran a 4.54 40 yard dash at the combine. That speed had him light up opposing defenses that just could not find a way to stop him. Over the last two years Gesicki had 105 catches, 1242 yards, and 15 touchdowns.
The Negatives: This is not your classic tight end. He’s not going to be much of an asset when it comes to run blocking. Gesicki is certainly strong, he had 22 reps in the bench press at the combine which was second among tight ends – but I would not call his build prototypical tight end size. Sure he is 6’5 but he has a bit of a lean lanky build. He’s not that physical. Think of Gesicki as more Jimmy Graham than Anthony Fasano.
The Alien Dust: I wonder if there was a player who helped himself more at the combine. He wowed everyone. It wasn’t just a fast 40 yard dash. He was 1st among tight ends in every category except for bench press…where he fell to 2nd place…lol
This is a special athlete. He may not be a huge asset in the blocking game – but this a guy who changes an offense. I believe Gesicki will be a pro bowl receiver in the NFL.
His impressive combine might be enough to vault him into the 1st round. But I think there is a good chance Gesicki is a 2nd or even a 3rd round pick. If he lasts to the 4th round – consider every NFL scout a moron.
Mike Gesicki compares favorably with the destructive Zork!
Check out his highlights here:
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I could see us signing DeMarco Murray.
if 4 QB’s go in the top 5 which is possible I’m putting Mason Rudolph in play at 11. I don’t get why he’s a tier below the other 4 anyway. He could end up being the best of all of them.
I’ve heard pundits say the same thing about Rudolph.
What are your pros and cons on him?
Big arm
Big guy 6’5 235
Smart
No real cons for me to be honest and I’ll bet the NFL likes him a lot more than the pundits do.
NFL.COM has RUDOLPH ranked 6th with the same grades as White and Falk
PLAYER POS HT WT COLLEGE GRADE
DARNOLD, SAM* QB 6’3″ 220 USC 7.0
ROSEN, JOSH* QB 6’4″ 226 UCLA 6.1
MAYFIELD, BAKER QB 6’1″ 215 Oklahoma 6.0
ALLEN, JOSH QB 6’5″ 233 Wyoming 6.0
JACKSON, LAMAR* QB 6’3″ 200 Louisville 5.9
RUDOLPH, MASON QB 6’5″ 235 Oklahoma St. 5.6
WHITE, MIKE QB 6’4″ 225 Western Kentucky 5.6
FALK, LUKE QB 6’4″ 225 Washington St. 5.5
6.1 grades or less for QBs are not what you trade up for. It’s gotta be 7.0+.
I’ve seen a few of the mocksters have Rudolph tied for 5th with I think Mayfield and Allen. Not sure exactly, it might be Mayock, Jeremiah or Brooks.
Mayock has Rudolph tied with Jackson at 5
Son, gotcha on Rudolph. After seeing the tied for 5th I looked into him more and he looks the part of an NFL QB. Even if he’s not ready in his first year, I’d be fine with him behind Tannehill and let it play out.
Yeah he’d be a nice add. Then get TE with 2nd pick even if we move up.
I’d be fine with that. If you like a QB there is nothing wrong with taking him at #11. Trading multiple picks and all that stuff is what scares you. Maybe Rudolph is our wildcard and not Mayfield or Rosen that has been rumored. Just sit there and wait.
Sitton signed his contract wearing a UCF shirt. I think he’ll be our first starter from UCF.
Would love to get Shaquem!
Based on what the stej gave up to go up 3 spots it looks like it might be too rich to try to go up.
I don’t think we have to. Stay put or trade down. I don’t see us trading up in the 1st. Maybe the 2nd.
It looks that way now to me too
Son,
C’mon man. If Rudolph had no cons he’d be one of the qb’s going in the top 5 or 6 picks. He’s got plenty.
Do share your cons. I’ve read that some of his issues are mechanical so he is a guy who needs some coaching and improvement in his game. But he has physical talent. Not a runner but can move a bit. I see him as a bigger Dak Prescott with less mobility.
He doesn’t have he arm strength of Prescott. He’s not got a gun. He throws a pretty deep ball but he’s late a lot on the deep outs and he’s got some accuracy and ball placement issues.
He doesn’t read a defense particularly well and holds the ball a bit longer than I’d like to see. He can get wild and erratic at times and put the ball in a bad spot causing it to be tipped and intercepted.
He’s a bit of a project. I’d say he’s a 3rd rd prospect at best and should be considered a developmental type player. He definitely shouldn’t be starting for anyone in his first year.
MASON RUDOLPH
BOTTOM LINE Pocket quarterback with good size who has shown consistent improvement as a passer. Rudolph is more of a downfield, play-action passer than a quarterback who can win with precision and arm strength. He’s a capable field reader who has the ability to operate with timing which will be important since his arm can be dull at times. Rudolph could be an early backup with the potential of becoming an average to below average starter in the league.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/mason-rudolph?id=2559942
his first few passes in the Oklahoma game left a lot to be desired.
I don’t know that Rudolph fits what Gase wants. He’s big and tall, but he’s not very good on the move.
Peyton Manning?
NFL COMPARISON Christian Ponder
My comp for him is Bryce Petty
That very well may be true as how Gase sees him.
I don’t like the Ponder comparison though. Rudolph has a lot more mustard on his fast ball.
I guess I didn’t say that clearly but I wasn’t saying he didn’t have any cons and I was trying to infer that the ones he has don’t worry me too much. He’s not going to a running QB and hasn’t played any pro style offense but I like his arm for the NFL.
GTFO!!! SMH 😡
Oh no! LOL
I don’t think Rudolph is a 1st rounder or some one you trade up for
Solid QB but I do t really think I he’s a guy you build your franchise around
I wouldn’t trade up for him but I was saying if 4 QBs go top 5 and you want to make sure you get a QB then he’s in play as is Jackson.
Not trade up for.
I would draft him
But I’m not trading up or making him a priority in the draft
We don’t desperately need a qb
I don’t think we spend the 11 on a qb if he’s not worth a 1st rounder
Glad you guys are finally talking about Mason Rudolph. As some of y’all know, I’m pretty high on him… I can see him sneaking into the mid-late 1st round. The Stealers* are showing MAJOR interest in him (eventual replacement for Big Ben), along with a few other teams.
Yes, he got his warts (they all do), but there’s a lot to like about Rudolph. I watched some of his games around Thanksgiving, and I came away thinking that he’s probably got the prettiest looking deep-ball of this class… the dude can drop dimes and he’s got plenty of arm-strength.
If we’re dead-set on getting the best QB we can without trading an entire Draft class away by moving up to get one of the “Big 4 QBs”, Rudolph is a likely target.
I’m not sure I like the idea of drafting him @ R1P11, but if we have conviction in him, pull the trigger then… don’t trade down and have either of the Bills, Cardinals, or Stealers* taking him from us.
If we trade down we didn’t have conviction about him at #11.
Absolutely agreed.
So M you’ll have to hate your fave can you do it?
I can 😉
He’s probably eating Joe’s Stone Crab now. LOL
My Peyton Manning comparison wasn’t that Rudolph is Manning, just that Gase’s best success was with a tall pocket passer, not a mobile Tannehill type.
Pouncey visiting Chargers today
son of a son of a shula says:
March 18, 2018 at 7:01 pm
So M you’ll have to hate your fave can you do it?
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If he’s playing for the Patsies*, yes… I CAN.
Good answer
It’s the ONLY answer. My hatred for that franchise is almost unhealthy.
Lol
Lol
LOL
We might be able to take the first corner off the board at 11 or someone may want to trade there to do so.
The one from Alabama? 😉
Or UCF?
I was just thinking of the trail of tears that would leave on some keyboards around here!
Edmunds, Smith, Ridley or Guice among others
I take all those guys before Rudolph
And I’m not touching Jackson
Not until the 3rd
His accuracy is about as bad as a prospect’s accuracy
Good for him – he doesn’t want to switch to WR
Now complete some passes
If the qbs are off the board
Fuck them
Get the bpa at 11 at any position
Those guys aren’t even scratching the surface of bpa
Honestly all the qbs in this draft aren’t very good
The facts that qbs might go 1-4 means that there’s a good chance the same teams are picking top 4 for a few more years…lol
HUGHES, MIKE* CB 5’10” 189 Central Florida
He’s a little short for what we’ve been going after?
here’s something to think about. if the Phins decide to ride Tannehill this year and they don’t like what they see there shouldn’t be a lot of competition for a qb in the first next year after this draft.
There always is. Never a shortage of teams looking for QBs
True. But I think they’ll take one somewhere this draft, 3-5 range. That’s assuming none of the big four are there at 11.
Was that a visitation of the most unholy? Damn! Good to see you Bat. The PB solutes you.
I would be very happy with this.
YOUR TEAM
MIAMI DOLPHINS
YOUR PICKS
1: R1P11 DL MAURICE HURST MICHIGAN
2: R2P10 G WILL HERNANDEZ UTEP
3: R3P9 TE DALLAS GOEDERT – SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
4: R4P23 QB LUKE FALK WASHINGTON STATE
5: R4P31 RB JOHN KELLY TENNESSEE
6: R6P35 FB DIMITRI FLOWERS OKLAHOMA
7: R7P9 CB KAMRIN MOORE BOSTON COLLEGE
8: R7P11 TE RYAN IZZO FLORIDA STATE
I haven’t heard if Hurst cleared his medicals (heart issue) from the combine?
LOL at Bat and the HDS reference
Lou, Prescott doesn’t beat teams with his arm. He’s one of those intangible QBs. I think Rudolph might be a guy like that.
I think if you need a QB maybe you go there 1st rd, if you have a guy you’re rolling with maybe not so much. So many options. 😉
well, Prescott has his running ability as well. he scored 6 td’s rushing last season. Rudolph isn’t going to give you that. But, again, my comp for Rudolph is Bryce Petty. Personally, I don’t think he should go before the 3rd rd. I don’t see him ever being a starter for a team and if I’m Miami he’s a waste of a pick for my team.
Mason Rudolph – meh
wyoming85 says:
March 18, 2018 at 7:22 pm
HUGHES, MIKE* CB 5’10” 189 Central Florida
He’s a little short for what we’ve been going after?
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I think that move is called the “squat thrust”
There are good points made in the article but the overall outlook he poses is pretty negatively slanted.
Sitton’s wife and her family are huge Dolphin fans
I actually see Rudolph pretty much in same light as another former OK State QB, Brandon Weeden, minus the drawing of social security when he enters the league.
Weeden was older than me when he was drafted
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/03/19/2018-nfl-draft-why-miami-dolphins-should-consider-lb-tremaine-edmunds/
I’d be very happy with this pick! Dolphins legacy continues!
I think he has the potential to be special and will probably be r BpA if he is there at 11
But I think Lou is onto something with the Ridley pick
The FO claiming the defense was built to play with the lead jumps out at me
Also adding Quinn, resigning Hayes and hanging onto to Wake
I don’t think the FO thinks they need to add a LB and instead would rather add talent at the skills position.
A draft where we went
1 Ridley
2 TE or RB (Gesicki if he is there)
3 RB or TE (I think Chubb or Freeman might be available in the 3rd)
Wouldn’t surprise me
I think part of this also means Parker is traded (for peanuts basically)
That said – I would love to add Edmunds
I just think some of the moves in the offseason lead me to believe they won’t go defense early in the draft and instead will look to add playmakers
JMO, but I think we’ve done a good job of surrounding Tannehill with weapons ever since Gase arrived. However, one of the biggest problems has been opting for an aged TE that was past his prime or concussed.
And when ya think about it, Tannehill and Cutler still targeted Jarvis as often as they did, limiting the touches other playmakers could get… and part of that was a turnstile O-Line.
That said, I’m not so sure replacing DeVante will have (or would have) any kind of positive consequence: get the O-Line fixed and get a stud TE.
Well Devante has been a disappointment
The acquisitions of Sitton and the center are intended to fix the OL
I don’t think they are going to take a TE at 11 – I suspect the 2nd or 3rd round are more likely to be the spot for a TE – so that is what Ridley at 11 makes sense
it would be one thing if Nelson is on the board
but he won’t be
I wouldn’t add Edmunds over Roquan Smith, though i do think either of them would be worthy of pick 11.
I also think Ridley would be a nice selection, but i just dont see adding him after putting so much emphasis on WR in FA. Now if, as Piggy was saying, we arent done at WR (ie we are looking to trade Parker), then i could see us targeting Ridley, which is a Cooper clone with better speed.
Id prefer not to add a RB early in the draft, and it seems with interest in Murray we also aren’t looking to go early in the draft for one. I could see us adding a guy day 3 though. If we cant negotiate a cost effective deal with a guy like Murray, or some other vet FA, we might have Rb higher than day 3, but im really not expecting day 1.
I still feel we are very much looking at a QB for our pick and i think they would trade up if they have to. I think though they aren’t going to be making moves before the draft to move us, so i think they are going to watch how that situation plays out and if they feel they need to trade up it will be a draft day decision.
I really don’t think Murray is going to affect what they are doing in the draft
They are already asking him to come in for less $ than other teams are likely to offer him
Remember: this is a contract year for DeVante. I doubt we part ways with him being he’s probably going to be fighting for his future in football $$$. I’d be willing to bet he balls this year and is healthy.
I think it’s always been about injuries with him. When healthy he produced.
I agree.
He doesn’t want to work to earn it
That’s exactly why they may trade him
to get value for him now rather than letting him go via free agency
Parker looked good for about the first 5-6 games this season
then he was injured and then when he came back he did very little
Is that little window enough for the team to have faith in him
I don’t think anyone is saying with just another year – Parker will prove himself
I’m not saying he can’t be better, but I’m saying that’s not a good bet
Now with Cousins signed, looks like we created the biggest name free agent in play by cutting Suh. He’s being checked out by among others the Titans, Saints, Rams and Seahawks. Him on the Rams would make for one nasty D front.
Interesting…
Have a hard time buying that Josh Allen would fall to the Bills at #12. He could end up with the Bills, but not at that pick.
If Allen is there at 12, Miami is taking him.
The actual draft is going to be interesting for sure specifically within the top 10. Then from there it will settle down to more normal.
Bucky went with the obvious for us because Suh is gone and it could go that way but when your offense can’t move the football it’s a tough call.
I think drafting a WR would be a real bummer for me. I can’t think of a position I want to draft less that WR with our 1st pick. Damn, I hate the thought of it. Even if Parker is just Peter Parker like usual, and not Spiderman, I still don’t want a WR. We have Stills, Parker, Albert, Amendola, Grant and Carroo, and even possible Owusu and Ford. I know Carroo is possibly goners, but maybe they give him one more chance and he finally wakes the F up. Please don’t draft Ridley!
We could definitely roll with the WRs we have and add a TE to the offense to make it more dynamic.
we sure can
I’m just reading the moves so far
my preference is a LB if Edmunds and Smith are there
But I’m reading the moves we made and seeing the argument for a Ridley
Once you let Landry go the makeover began
In terms of Carroo – that isn’t a guy you bank on – forget Carroo or Oswus or Ford in terms of looking at the WR as complete. You let those guys come to camp and prove it and then they have to prove it during the season as well. There is room for at least one of them on the roster – but they still have a lot to prove, so no one should hang their hat on any of them
Grant has had limited production and the team might like his speed but I think he is at best #4
I think the team is happy with Stills. I know I personally like what he brings, but he isn’t a guy who is going to catch 70+
Albert and Amendola might be very productive in the slot – I look at them as a as a combined addition to help replace Landry even if they are both on the filed at the same time
which takes me to Parker. what is Parker at this stage of his career? He is a leap of faith to an offensive coordinator IMO.
Yes his name is Albert, but that’s his first name. 😉
Hey hey hey I’m the last fee agent the dolphins signed from KC
Yeah, but I know him so well that I just call him Albert
Hey-hey-hey, I’m FAAAAAAAAAAAAST Albert!
We have 11 WRs on the roster. We could add another WR but it doesn’t have to be the 1st rd or Ridley.
We don’t need any
This isn’t a prediction on need
I just think Lou might be right on what the FO is thinking
Yeah and I agreed with Lou yesterday about it as an option. Like I said it doesn’t have to be 1st rd for a WR. Could be TE 2nd and WR 4th. That’s still bolstering the passing game options and then there is what we do at RB. One thing for sure is our offense will not be the same.
Of course, I could be wrong. I just can’t ignore the lackluster offense we’ve had in Gase’s first two years and there’s been plenty said about how unhappy he’s been with the inability to move the ball and score.
I also don’t know if Ridley would definitely be the pick at #11 but I just don’t think we can discount him in the conversation. We all kind of ignored the biggest need the team has and THAT IS to move the ball better on offense and score more points. There is no bigger need right now.
And, if you look at him and the remainder of the wr class it’s night and day. He’s in his own zip code. There is nobody later that can give you close to what he does.
Can’t be proud of the pick, but at least our trade to get to #3 was a lot more cost efficient than the Yets.
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“To get pick No. 3, the Jets gave up pick No. 6, pick No. 37, pick No. 49 and a second-round pick next year.
The last time a team moved up to the third overall pick was in the 2013 NFL draft, and that team gave up a whole lot less. That year, the Dolphins got pick No. 3 from the Raiders, giving up only pick No. 12 and pick No. 42.”
QB presence is the difference this year.
pheloniusphish says:
March 19, 2018 at 2:28 pm
If Allen is there at 12, Miami is taking him.
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100% agreed, Phelon.
If Allen is there at #12 that means we passed on him. 😉
LOL…fuck off Tim! 11 I say, 11!
Tim – Matz is pitching great today, he’s into the 6th inning, and he struck out the last 6 Astro hitters until Carlos Correa just doubled, but he has been fun to watch today
Cool!
If edmunds is there at 11 they should run to the podium.
I think it’s possible, especially if 4 QB’s go
A good prospect will be there for us if we stay at #11. If we trade down there will still be a good prospect, just a different level but if you add a pick or two you have more firepower to move up in the 2nd and 3rd rd if you covert a guy. Lots of options.
If I had to put odds on it at this time, I’d say 70/30 we take a DT.
I think it all depends on how the top-10 pans out.
Tim Knight says:
March 19, 2018 at 12:27 pm
The actual draft is going to be interesting for sure specifically within the top 10. Then from there it will settle down to more normal.
Right! So I’m not so sure I’d put odds on ANYTHING. 🙂
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Stills did it too.
M13, I said if I had to put odds on it “at this time”, I’d say 70/30 we take a DT. I think the QBs are going top 4 or 5 so my comment takes that into account. It’s just a comment about my gut feeling right now. It could change.
After the jests I’ll advised trade up
I’m pretty sure a real good prospect will be there at 11
Defensively: Edmunds, Smith, Fitzpatrick, James and Vea are in play. Not all of them will be there byt at least one will
Offensively I think Ridley, one of the top 4 QBs and Guice are in play but I suspect the qbs will all be gone
I do t think there is an OL prospect owirh taking at 11 other than nelson who will be gone. Maybe Hernandez but I think that’s a reach
In terms of are I think that’s the biggest need. If they love one they don’t want to miss on, them go for it at 11 – but I’m thinking 2nd or 3rd round will nab you that good one
So basically if we sit at 11 I think it’s
Edmunds, Smith, Fitzpatrick, James, Vea, Ridley or Guice
I’ll buy that for a dollar! 4 QBs, Barkley, Chubb and Nelson, there’s only 3 more that can go before us.
Right – so one of the LBs, probably Fitzpatrick and then I don’t know the 3rd but that still leaves some good players
If the OTs were better in this draft than I think the possibility of drafting one to play at OG and replace James in 19 would also be there
But the OTs just aren’t very good in this draft
^^^
Agreed, they’re more end of the 1st and 2nd rd prospects. But some will go earlier than that.
11: R1P11 QB JOSH ALLEN, WYOMING
42: R2P10 TE MIKE GESICKI, PENN STATE
73: R3P9 S JESSIE BATES, WAKE FOREST
123: R4P23 LB JEROME BAKER, OHIO STATE
131: R4P31 RB JOHN KELLY, TENNESSEE
209: R6P35 DL KENTAVIUS STREET, NORTH CAROLINA STATE
227: R7P9 OT K.J. MALONE, LSU
229: R7P11 CB KAMERON KELLY, SAN DIEGO STATE
Give up your pipe dream on Allen…lol
It’s mine and I can smoke it anytime I want to!
I forgot to factor in Denzel Ward
I don’t think cb is a option for us, but he might be the bpa if he is there at 11
I wouldn’t love that pick
Isn’t he considered a guy who can play all over in the secondary?
I’ve barely looked at him
This is what nfl com says
Ward has the experience and talent to handle duties on the outside, but his lack of play strength combined with his elite footwork might be the deciding factor for a move inside. Ward is outstanding as a mirror-and-match cornerback with great route feel who is able to maintain tight coverage around the field with good technique and pattern recognition. He should become an early starter at nickel cornerback with the talent to make an immediate impact for a defense that faces a pass-happy division foe twice per year.
Piggy, there is usually a surprise pick as well.
Orlando brown
Orlando Brown takes the concept of athleticism, dunks it in chocolate sauce and swallows it whole
Some one really has to want a guy who doesn’t move much
that’s why you go back to his tape and when you look at it you see a guy who can play. LT’s don’t need to run 40 yds every play.
I get that the combine is often overstated
But we are talking about the worst combine performance of all time
His vertical jump was less than 20 inches
He can barely step over a large box much less jump
I disagree with that. I’ll bet anything he can step over a large pizza box.
GBN Draft Report
1. Cleveland Sam Darnold QB Southern California
2. NY Giants Josh Rosen QB UCLA
3. NY Jets (from Indianapolis) Josh Allen QB Wyoming
4. Cleveland (from Houston) Bradley Chubb DE North Carolina State (or Barkley)
5. Denver Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma
This could go down like this. Especially with Denver and Mayfield. Similar size and game to Keenum. Good situation to build your offense around both. Mayfield can learn behind Keenum and if Keenum struggles whenever you go to Mayfield. That’s a good situation for Denver.
are the browns going to take Chubb after they took a pass rusher last year
I think Barkley is there pick
If the rest is true than you know the first 6 picks
Chubb goes 6 to the Colts
Chubb is a highly rated pass rusher. Nothing wrong with having more than one. They also signed Carlos Hyde and have Duke Johnson. I know Barkley is special but so is Chubb. That’s why I put Barkley as another option, that wasn’t GBN.
I think that Albert Amendola kid is going to be special.
LOL, if Amendola comes close to playing like he did next year that’s a bonus. You probably pencil him in for 12-14 games optimistically. Wilson being a young guy on the rise adding another speed element to the offense, fits what we’ve been talking about all offseason. Gase wants to be explosive in all phases and not roll with 2-3 players that were not explosive enough. You can’t just do 3-5, 6-8 yards all day without breaking big plays. Ajayi broke a lot of big plays in 2016 in a few games, but not so much in 2017 during the time he was here. Then there is all the other stuff we all know – they moved on. Same with Landry.
There is no #1 anymore. Everyone on the field do your job and when you get it make a play. That’s what I think we’re building here.
The roster will only be as good as the coaching using it. Gase and his staff needs to step it up.
Agreed, and I think Gase knows that and that’s why he made some changes to the staff. It’s a two-phase revamping in both coaching and personnel. The defense was revamped over the last two years. The group we have now have not played a lot of games together and it’s a new group. This year we’re seeing that on offense.
When people talk about rebuilding, that starts with a new HC. That doesn’t mean everyone goes, but there is going to be significant turnover. When I hear people talk about we’re rebuilding as in blowing it up, that’s not accurate. Blowing it up is all big contracts go, you move on from twilight vets, you don’t trade for or sign vets at the same time. It sometimes seems like semantics but there is a difference.
sb7, not saying you were saying anything about this necessarily, I was just rambling on about where we’re at and what it looks like we’re doing. LOL
I can’t think of a position I want to draft less that WR with our 1st pick.
MikeE, off the top of my head I can think of at least three.
long snapper
Punter
kicker
LOL
I know you were just using Hyperbole.
LOL, I can see it now……
With the 11th pick in the 2018 NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins select……Tanner Carew, long snapper Oregon
Give me some points for even knowing the name of a long snapper available in this year’s draft.
Lou and Piggy, when I watched Orlando Brown run the 40, I thought to myself well what do you think a guy built like that will run like? LOL
Also when does he ever have to do a vertical lol? His job is to play contact at the POA, move or push guys away. He’s moving a couple of yards laterally and forward. He’s not leading blocks down the field. So I get why he’ll still be valued.
I am more than twice his age and less than half his weight and can push more bench reps than him!
Really? You can throw up 225lbs more than 14 times?
yeah, but did they have a peanut butter and banana sandwich above his head while he was doing his bench press?
I can throw up after trying to lift 225 lbs. Is that good?
pretty much was my comment when I said left tackles don’t need to run 40 yds at any point in time during a game.
I’m not suggesting he can’t do things most people can do – I’m saying he can’t do things most grandmother can do
he’s a really big man so I give him some latitude
his father, who played don’t he nfl, died young
its really a bit unusual for a professional athlete to be that unathletic
I don’t think a first rounder is a great idea when it comes to Brown
Orlando Brown Action Figure
That was hyperbole too Mike E. I can push it 10 times and then shit myself. LOL
Still pretty impressive, but still a bunch of shit.
brown’s bench press was actually one of his better scores
I mean it was almost a third of the top score but it was decent
Sorry just read an article about how bad it scores were and I stand corrected
14 is the worst by an OL since 2000
a 7th rounder drafted by the saints (who never appeared in one game) had 13 reps once
his 40 time is the 3rd worst ever
some guy posted a 6 second time in 2011 (he went undrafted and never played don’t he NFL)
First comment is gold…
Better have plenty of handicapped parking.
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Making FAR lesser than he would have, here in Miami.
1.5mil less, thats not all that much difference,
Depends on the guarantee. Is it really a 1 year deal?
And that’s enough for Landry to walk…..
ER is correct, of course!
Yeah, Orlando brown had one of the worst combines i have seen since i have been watching it. I would not draft him.
because the underwear Olympics means more than the way the player actually plays the game on the field. lol
You cant do as badly as he did in all the skill assessments and be encouraged in him as a player.
I have been a person who has said the combine stats shouldnt be overblown, but there are things that you pay attention to, and underwhelming in all categories is something you cant ignore. I bet money if you want his tape well enough you see a lot of bad performances against top talent.
When was Pouncey a hard nosed leader?
Holding the bench down in 2016 and watching practice from sidelines last year. He was awesome.
Yeah im not sure the word leader is completely accurate. I think he might have been a veteran presence, but i dont think his character exuded leadership. I mean im probably more a fan than most here, but even i dont really feel he was a leader in the truest sense of the work, neither were Suh and Landy for that matter. Our team has very few true leaders, which is the bulk of our problems.
I think they meant a powder-nosed accomplice
Honestly I think they don’t know the difference between the twins
I’m not saying we should take Orlando Brown. Just saying why some teams may still value him.
I think that Orlando Brown’s Combine shows a lack of endurance, and discipline to prepare for as much. JMO
Bingo
YUP!
If you actually look at Brown’s tape, you wouldn’t be surprised at his combine performance. He’s a big guy. That’s about all he has going for him. There is absolutely nothing special about the way he plays. To me, he plays slow, casually, no aggression, no purpose to what he does. I’d question his desire more than anything else because he plays like he has none.
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I know when i watched his tape i couldnt figure out the hype. He does not at all look to me to be a guy who is likely to stud out in the NFL. Im right there with you on that evaluation Randy.
They hype is probably based on the lack of value at OT this year
ElephantRider says:
March 19, 2018 at 5:45 pm
And that’s enough for Landry to walk…..
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Im not questioning the move, im just saying he didnt take a major paycut to play elsewhere and i think it shows the value we had on him isnt too far off market for a player of his caliber. Im ok with the move, i knew we would be moving on from him at least by the end of the year this year, and i felt there was even a good chance we would be moving on from him before the end of the year this year. Replacing him with a guy on a pretty equivalent production level at a savings to his cap hit was a good move, and kept us from running the risk of having to make that move in the middle of the year as a scramble to patch our OL yet again.
Wilfork makes Brown look like a waif model and that dude moves like a cat. There are big dudes and there are fat asses, Brown is a fat ass.
Maybe Mayfield made Brown look good.
Pretty amazing that Pouncey walked away from the Jonathan Martin thing unscathed in terms of his reputation
It wasn’t like his name didn’t come up….a lot!
And add in being Hernandez’s buddy till the end.
What a hard-nosed leader!
So Pouncey signed for less than his old contract. Assuming his agent is capable, makes you wonder if he actually asked for a better deal or if it was just putting a good face on it.
He’s going to pay CA taxes too
He probably could have pocketed more by restructuring
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Yeah it wasn’t major. Maybe that’s what the Phins wanted to restructure to and he found out that’s all he can get. Who knows? But I agree that he can be replaced cheaper. He is a walking time bomb….
Wow an Orlando Brown bashing session broke out. LOL
Who’s next?!
David Fales
DeMarco Murray visits and leaves without a deal. Probably looking for more $ options.
He’s fat, slow and ugly!
lol. reminds me of when I would tell people “I’m fat, bald and ugly” and they would say “you’re NOT bald!”. I’d be like “gee, thanks”
Chronic halitosis too! Nobody wants to huddle with that guy!
It’s looking more and more as if they went to guys and offered them the opportunity to restructure or take a hike. It’s not sounding like they gave guys much wiggle room or cared much about keeping them.
good. about time they had some balls
You had to know this story was coming at some point….only Q was when.
“A self-driving Uber car hit and killed a pedestrian Sunday night in Tempe, Arizona….The vehicle was going 40 mph when it hit the pedestrian. There was no indication the car attempted to slow itself before the collision.”
LOL @ Lou!
Can’t keep rolling with the same guys with the same results if you don’t think they’re a good fit. Gase is the HC and he is ultimately responsible for wins and losses. It’s his team to make or break. Big year in 2018 to show he knew what he was doing. The team will have a new look for sure with some familiar faces. I for one hope he’s right. 🙂
If he isn’t, here we go again….
What will it take tho? Playoff birth, playoff win, just a winning record?
Competitiveness and a sign of upside. No worse than 8-8 but not an ugly 8-8 – could have been 11-5 with a play here or there. Not getting shutout and scoring 20 or less 11 times. But in that scenario it has to be playoffs at a minimum in 2019, not another we “just” fell short.
However, if the team doesn’t look right and is worse than that in 2018, Gase is gone.
The one thing for sure is that Gase (and maybe Tannebaum) are doing a whole bunch of move. And you are right that at this point it is their team…..time to put up or shut up. No excuses left.
I don’t even look at it is excuses. If you as a HC took over a 6-10 team who the last time was in the playoffs was 2008, what were you expecting? Probably not a playoff birth year one after a 1-4 start. Last year a lot of stuff went wrong along with a roster turnover. That’s continued this offseason. If it doesn’t come together well we all know how that goes.
What if there is 2 hurricanes, coach smoking crack, 2 QBs blow their knee, they pull Romo from the booth, Denney runs away during trip up to GB, and the RB they draft gets traded for a coupon at Ikea?
LOL ER….but will never happen like that. No way Denney ever lets the team down. 🙂
We’ll see….maybe he loves sushi!
What positions do you want to come out of this draft with that makes you feel we can be a good team in 2018? Keep it to three, not necessarily in order, just who pans out.
DT, TE, LB
Yeah I know I didn’t list OL. I’m feeling better about it.
Honestly I don’t that’s no there is any player in this draft that we can plug in and improve our OL except Nelson – and he will be gone before we pick
Maybe Hernandez. I wouldn’t be upset about Hernandez
Anyone else iMo is competing with our current roster and is probably more for the future and for depth than anything else
I’m not surprised if we see Asiata next year remember how cautious Gase was with guys like Ajayi, Drake, Grant
He’s not exactly throwing rookies into the fire
I think TE is a need
My general feeling is I would like to have a theme
So TE, WR, RB does that
As does DT and LB
So either TE, WR, RB
Or TE, DT and LB
I think they get at least two more years. The first two years were to evaluate the roster now they are building the roster they want.
Think all the moves mean that at least Gase is safe for two years. Not so sure about Tannebaum.
That is with the perception that Tannebaum does everything on his own which is not the case. We have not been crazy with contracts since Grier became GM. I think he tempered T-Bomb into more value in the draft and bargain hunting through trades and FA. That doesn’t mean it always works, but you don’t go for the big FA all the time.
If they have a bad year this year I’m pretty sure the finger gets pointed squarely at Gase
^^^
As well it should.
Yeah I agree it should be
Accountability means something to me
In terms of Murray
I’m not sure he doesn’t sign later
I think Mando was right – they want him but they want him to take a bargain $
If I was an NfL RB on the tail end of my career I would rather retire than accept a discount.
I want a Looney Jersey!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Fitzpatrick, Minkah, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Griffin, Shaquem, OLB, Central Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Falk, Luke, QB, Washington State (A)
Round 4 Pick 30: Burks, Oren, OLB, Vanderbilt (A-)
Round 7 Pick 5: Adams, Tony, OG, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Looney, James, DT, California (A+)
My Dion Jordan one is pretty crazy
Piggy, if we don’t sign a significant RB in FA that ups the odds for a guy like Guice. Even 1st rd RBs you can keep 4-5 years and get their young years without the big contract. Drake/Guice is a nice combo.
It would be a kick ass combo and Drake can be a factor on ST as well especially since they’ve hinted at Grant taken a lesser role on ST and Landry is gone
Who’s going to return kicks and punts next year?
Drake and Grant seem effective to me
But if you start asking Grant to play more offensive snaps and drake to take more carries – is probably less effective
Drake/Guice, not Grant. LOL
You got him all excited with the Guice talk
I know
I meant you need another player to share carries within a Drake so that Drake can be a factor in ST (presumably with Grant)
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ebron to the Colts.
Seems Phins are not at all going after any of these FA TEs. I smell Mike E’s dream coming true.
You smell it? LOL
Confession: I farted
MEH
Whiskey, chickens, and bb guns….. man I miss FL
I’m just really impressed he can curve his face like that
I was thinking more Kentucky or Tennessee? 😉
OK I’m done!!!!!! (for the night)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Jones, Jamarco, OT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Apke, Troy, SS, Penn State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Atkins, John, DT, Georgia (A+)
LOVE your first 3 picks, Wyoming!!!
Piggy, if we land that TE we all talk about along with a good RB prospect in the draft I think we score the kind of points we want to see. WR is not the key at this point. The OL already looks better. Still has to prove itself. QB and OL.
We better if we have that kind of personal
If we do that Ridley, Gesecki, 3rd round RB – people like me griping about the loss of Ajayi and Landry have nothing to squeal about anymore
Like we listened!
Better score some points…..because the D ain’t stopping anybody!
Well they are built to play with a lead…lol
Just my opinion….
Need that stud defensive player at pick 11. Whether it’s Vea or Smith/Edmunds. Also they still need a 3rd safety…..
I know I lied!
But it didn’t work out to bad with Guice in the first!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Guice, Derrius, RB, LSU (B-)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Griffin, Shaquem, OLB, Central Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: McFadden, Tarvarus, CB, Florida State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Adams, Tony, OG, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Webb, Damon, SS, Ohio State (A+)
https://twitter.com/KNARFWONGAR/status/975919917185806339
Wow – he made that look easy
That’s good to see, since he’s been dealing with that ankle for almost 5 months.
ElephantRider says:
March 19, 2018 at 9:44 pm
Better score some points…..because the D ain’t stopping anybody!
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That’s the whole problem. The offense hasn’t been scoring points. It average 22.7 ppg in yr 1 under Gase and 17.6 ppg last season. The already went heavy D in the draft. This is Gase’s draft. It’s going to be heavy offense.
Wilson is a nice piece to the wr unit and Amendola could be valuable but he’s a short-term answer and could be a one year signing. Parker has yet to live up to his 1st rd status and then you have Stills and a bunch of others who are unproven.
I can’t see Gase sitting around being patient with the offense anymore. If this offense doesn’t put some points up on the board this year, and I mean they need to really get up there, Gase is going to pop something.
So, IMO, if Ridley is there at #11 don’t be surprised if he’s the pick. He’s a stud on the offensive side of the ball. Great speed but can run routes. Doesn’t need to slow down to make a cut and if you’re looking at his numbers from Alabama they don’t tell anything about what he’s capable of because he was underutilized at Alabama.
If you want to see more points scored and the defense play better as a unit then hope for a heavy offensive draft.
Again, and I can understand a lot of people looking at the defensive studs in this draft or thinking we need to take one of those DT’s high because we lost Suh, but what is the #1 thing that stands out about this team since Tannehill has been here?
It’s the lack of the ability of the offense to move the ball consistently and score points. That’s the #1 thing. Since Gase has been the HC his offense hasn’t done any better and he’s supposed to be an offensive genius.
So, why is it that everyone wants to see us take a defensive player in the first round? Is the defense going to score points? No.
ER said “better score a lot of points because this defense isn’t going to stop anyone”. Well, if the offense isn’t moving the ball and keeps having the 3 and out’s we see year after year the defense definitely isn’t stopping anyone.
And here’s the question. Why isn’t the defense stopping anyone? Because we lost ONE guy?