Executive decision here . . . I’ve decided to ditch the Free Agency articles, it’s a lot of work, and I really think at this point, a waste of time, because I think most of our spending is done. We do get the $17M from letting the Ndominant one go, but that’s in June, after some more cuts happen, and it’s too complicated to try and figure out who those players may be, soooooo, ON TO THE DRAFT!!
As I mentioned, Suh is no longer playing 874 snaps for our defense this season, so other guys are going to need to step up big time. Of course, we’re not going to stay pat with what we have, we will surely be drafting a DT, but in what RD that happens is very much up in the air (at least for us!). Jordan Phillips has said he wants to be a better player, and we’ll need him to be, and 2nd YR player Davon Godchaux will need to continue to develop. behind those two, it’s looking pretty thin with 2nd YR DT Vincent Taylor, Gabe Wright, the occasionally used DE/DT William Hayes. I’m going to take a look at a few prospects I like that can help our team. Most will be early RD picks, but a couple of late ones too.
Vita Vea 6’4 347 Washington
Most likely the first DT off the board in the 2018 NFL draft, will it be by our Miami Dolphins? It’s a possibility, but cool your engines, there are a LOT of possibilities, and on draft day, things we don’t even foresee happening may happen, which could shake up even the best laid plans. Back to Vita Vea, who is a behemoth of a DT. Both he and Da’Ron Payne, who I’ll discuss next are the highest rated DT’s at 6.5 by NFL.com. Vea was a 3 year starter at Washington, playing in almost every game each year. Playing in the Pac-12, Vea was pretty consistent his last 2 seasons, piling up around 40 tackles and in his Sophomore season tallying 5 sacks, and last year, his Junior season 3.5 sacks. He’s not really a penetrator, he’s more of a space eater. As to whether he could occupy 2 blockers like Suh did, or whether we’re even looking for that type of player is another story. While Suh was effective at that, did it make our defense any better?
Vea did well at the combine, at least at the weight rack where he threw up 41 reps, and actually, at 347 lbs, running a 5.1 is pretty damn impressive as far as I’m concerned. Zierlein compares Vea to Danny Shelton, who besides now residing in the AFC East with NE, has had a rather unremarkable career. I believe Vea is more athletic than Shelton, and although Vea’s a little larger, he moves much better than Shelton does. The Dolphins have scheduled a visit with Vea as one of their 30 allotted visits. That visit may go a long way as to whether he’s in our plans at #11 or not.
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Da’Ron Payne 6’2 311 Alabama
Da’Ron Payne was actually close in size to Vita Vea as a HS recruit at 350 lbs, but Payne has managed to keep his weight down to just over 300 lbs. While Payne isn’t as large as Vea, he’s also more of a run stuffing DT who happens to be excellent at tackling. Payne is a power player, but he’s not as athletically gifted as Vea is, and doesn’t move as well. What Payne does better is hold his ground, shed blocks, and make tackles. I actually think Payne would fit very well for our team. He’s also not a penetrator like Aaron Donald, and won’t be racking up sacks, but if we could plug in a DT will make tackles in the run game, I’m down on that.
At Bama, Payne slowly built up his playing time, and saved his best for last. In his Junior year, Payne finished with 36 total tackles and 1.5 sacks. Payne’s Junior and last season was best with 53 total tackles along with 1 sack. As you can see, Payne has not been a pass rushing DT, but that doesn’t mean he can’t improve that as a pro. Payne put up 27 reps at the combine, but don’t be fooled, he’s a powerful guy. Zierlein says Payne is ready to start right out of the box, so that would be great for us, because we could use Godchaux in passing downs, where I think he will improve.
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Taven Bryan 6’4 291 Florida
You look at Taven Bryan, and you think of a big TE, or maybe a DE, but he doesn’t strike you as an interior defensive lineman. He’s built narrower, without the extra thick lower body and belly area, but those qualities make him a better pass rushing prospect than the 2 aforementioned DT’s. Bryan improved each year at Florida garnering more playing time each year. In his final year (Junior) he finished with 37 total tackles, 6 for a loss, along with 4 sacks. He’s still very raw, but has more of an upside as far as a pass rusher. He’s not going to be a run stuffer like Vea or Payne, but could turn out like a guy named Cam Jordan, who he was compared to. Jordan has had a long career playing DE for the Saints in a 4-3 defense, and 59.5 sacks later, playing very well, thank you! Does that mean Bryan is destined to play outside? It’s possible, or maybe he becomes a great pass rushing DT like Aaron Donald, or Justin Tuck. Did I mention he’s from Wyoming? Did I mention his dad was a Navy Seal?
Unlike Vea or Payne, Bryan may not be a plug-n-play DT, but more of a work into the rotation kind of guy, but his athleticism gives him a lot of upside. The problem with us drafting Bryan is he would have to last to RD 2, and depending on which way we go RD 1, if we go defense in RD1, I have RD 2 slated for our next TE, so I can’t see Bryan being in the cards, unless we trade back in RD1, which is always a possibility with Mikey Tradey Pants, because staying put is just oh so hard for him.
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Harrison Phillips 6’4 307 Stanford
Smith is actually one of my favorite DT prospects, if not my favorite. While the other guys have upsides, this guy has been producing his last 2 seasons at DT, after getting little playing time his first 2 years at DE. Phillips is a former wrestling champion, and that’s a great attribute to bring to to the trenches. While Phillips isn’t a gifted athlete, he’s an effort guy, and man, did his effort show this past season. No typos here, Phillips racked up 98 total tackles (61 solo) which is basically 3 times or more the totals of the top 2 guys. Phillips also had an extremely impressive 17.0 tackles for a loss, along with 7 1/2 sacks, to give him 14 1/2 sacks in 2 seasons as a DT.
At the combine, Phiilips continued his great effort with 42 reps, and that’s not with short stubby arms, he has 34″ arms folks! Zierlein compares Phillips to Ryan Glasgow (Who?), but I’ve heard a better comparison, and that’s Kyle Williams, who has had a very successful 12 year career with the Buffalo Bills. I see that type of potential for Phillips. Everyone is always enamored with the athletic guys, but it’s the effort guys that go, and keep going in the NFL, and Phillips is just that. He’s also a RD 2-3 guy, and it may be unlikely he’s still there in RD 3, but if we haven’t yet addressed DT by then, and he’s still on the board, I think he’d be a great pick for our Dolphins.
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Derrick Nnadi 6’1 299 Florida St.
Nnadi is more of a mid RD prospect, which may suit as well as far as timing. If we go away from DT in RD 1, and we get our TE in RD 2, we can start looking for a DT a little later, from RD 3 on, and really, It’s not like we didn’t have success last year with Godchaux giving us nearly 600 snaps last season from Rd 5. Nnadi is built like a fire hydrant, low center of gravity, thick lower body. Nnadi was a starter since his Sophomore year at Florida St, and was pretty productive. In his Senior year, Nnadi totaled 53 tackles with 10 tackles for a loss, along with 3.5 sacks. In his Junior year, Nnadi had 6.5 sacks, to give him an even 10 in 2 seasons.
Zierlein considers Nnadi a NT, but mostly he’s an active player with a good motor who may be a potential starter. Just a note, Nnadi played at over 310 lbs at Florida State, he cut weight for the combine, and he still ran a 5.38, so Nnadi isn’t a TE prospect playing DT, he’s a big boy who belongs in the trenches.
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Deadrin Senat 6’0 314 South Florida
Senat played at South Florida in the American Conference, obviously not the powerhouse of NCAA football. On the other hand, Senat is still a very good prospect, also in that middle round area, maybe 3-5. Senat was pretty productive at S. FLA, and in his Senior season, logged 66 total tackles, 10 tackles for loss along with 6 sacks. Another powerful interior defender, Senat has a short squat frame that enables him to get better leverage in the trenches. Not considered to pass rush threat because of a lack of pass rush repertoire, and not the most athletic prospect to begin with, Senat can be a good rotational player that can hold his own and make tackles. Senat put up 35 reps at the combine, and has a strong upper body. Senat probably won’t be an NFL starter unless a coach gets a hold of him and improves his technique, but could still be a valuable player in a DL rotation.
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There are so many prospects, and I’m sure I’ve left out some of your favorites, so shout ’em out and tell me who they are. Some guys I almost put in were B.J. Hill, Nathan Shepherd and Maurice Hurst, who I believe still has not been medically cleared.
MikeE,
Well, sure, but talent matters. Nobody wins without a small group of really talented players.
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It’s Friday, and i’m not working. Time to go get drunk before the blizzard hits! Have a good one.
Have fun Randy! Stay safe man!
You too be safe.
BROCK ??
Hulk going to get angry!
LOL, had a feeling this would happen too.
Noooooooooooo! Hulk smash!😡
I still think there is a good chance we draft a QB.
least every mockster want to see either Mayfield or Allen falling.
Allen won’t fall past 5.
I don’t think it will be one of the top 4. Mason Rudolph and Kyle Lauletta are two names I’ve heard mentioned as possibilities.
Meh to Rudolph and Lauletta
I think it will be a mid to late round development project
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero 2m2 minutes ago
Brock Osweiler gets a one-year deal from Miami.
We should have just re signed Moore. He is significantly better than Osweiler
When the board impacts your real life. My e-mail server recently switched me over to their new and improved configuration (not sure if I agreed….but then I am a tech ignorant).
I’m talking to a bunch of people today about serious stuff today, but apparently the new configuration includes an avatar option. So they have their corporate logos and such and the replies came from 12-year-old Kris Allen holding his Dolphins helmet.
I was wondering why no avatar is showing for you
I figured how to switch the avi to blank…..not sure how to put it back just on this board. Got that Gravatar and Word Press got together, but now seems my e-mail place got into the loop as well.
Tim Knight says:
March 23, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero 2m2 minutes ago
Brock Osweiler gets a one-year deal from Miami.
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As i was saying yesterday, Osweiler is to have a Cutler break in case of emergency guy on the roster, he isnt going to be a long term backup plan and he isnt going to change the drafting of a QB decision. What plans they had at the position are still the plan they have. Im not sure what those plans are completely but i know that kind of signing isnt changing it.
Fales right now is still the backup, but i would be that any rooki we would take in the draft replaces him, and Osweiler is here to make it so we wouldnt have to throw the rookie to the wolves if Tanny gets broken again.
I don’t disagree. Could be Osweiler and Fales compete for the backup spot. Osweiler knows the system from when Gase was there and so does Fales. Then a rookie QB is on the 53 this year and we keep 3.
As for whether we like it or not Gase chose to bring him in so I’m not going to nitpick it just like any of the other moves. It’s going to be on Gase how this team plays and W/L will determine if he had it right or not.
If we draft a rookie im 100% sure we keep three this year. We may keep three anyways. Scrambling to find someone last year left a bad taste in a lot of people mouths because it was rough on us as fans, rough on the team and rough on Cutler too who i still feel had walked off so far into the sunset already that it was pretty dark place when they found him and started cajoling him back.
Just a few years ago Osweiler signed for 4 years and $72 million. He only collected on two years of that but am thinking he at least still has clip board holding abilities.
What makes a good backup and what makes a good starter arent the same qualities all the time. I dont see Osweiler with good backup qualities, he’s a starter, just not a very good one. I think thats why he would be more of a in case we have to finish a season or play a whole season with him kind of thing. moore was definately a better short term starter, which is more of what you aim for your backup to be, but if Moore had to try to hold it together for more than a couple of games, well we have seen what happens then. Id rather have Osweiler than more in the long term fill in scenario, and id rather have Fales over more for the short term starter role. This wasn’t an ooooh and ahhhh move but its not complete crap either and it give us a different kind of insurance policy.If Osweiler is starting for us at all next year we will have more things to bemoan than him being under center and our season would have already been over anyways.
Still just your back-up QB. And unlike Moore, there might be some undiscovered upside. Lets find out what the cost was.
Osweiler seemed to do well in Gase’s system in Denver so I am OK with it as long as it is not for a lot of $.
It’s a one year deal regardless. I can’t imagine it being a lot though.
Stanger, Osweiler got that big deal cause how he played under Gase.
Then assuming the deal is cheap…..why should Gase not want him as his #2?
He should, that’s why I am OK with it.
He didn’t really play under Gase in Denver but he did develop under him to where he played solid for 7 games in 2015. Then Houston swooped in and he signed there in 2016 but didn’t play well. Obviously Denver thought enough of him to have him back in 2017 even though he didn’t play so well last year in a handful of games.
I can’t see us drafting one of the top QB’s now that we have Osweiler. Don’t see them having 3 QB’s on the 53 and they won’t draft a top QB just to have him poached off the PS.
What happened to us last year is why you keep three QB’s on the roster.
I know, I remember when most teams seemed to carry 3 QB’s. Now, it seems most teams carry 2 and PS 1.
Our FO seems to have shored up many areas in F/A except for TE, DT, LB and maybe RB. Hmmm, I see I am gonna have to go to FirstPick and do another draft, LOL.
I think we want to draft all 4 of those positions as well as a QB.
How to keep 3 QBs on the 53.
OL 9
TE 3
WR 6
QB 3
RB 4
DL 9/10
LB 6
DB 9/10
K 1
P 1
LS 1
“He didn’t really play under Gase”
Thanks Tim, didn’t realize that but didn’t bother to look it up either, LOL.
Best booking photo booking photo ever after a fight at an Ocala Walmart….and dude was not even drunk.
Yeah i saw that one yesterday. His parents were probably so proud until he killed them.
The police report said he open fist punched (im guessing pimp slapped) his gf who he referred to as his wife and they continued to yell at each other for an hour after the cops arrived and yet the woman still screamed at the cops to leave him alone when they arrested him for domestic abuse against her.
Yeah — it was really nothing that normally should even get other than maybe a brief mention in the local news. Am guessing that photo was why it did become news.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Allen, Josh, QB, Wyoming (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Guice, Derrius, RB, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 9: Hurst, Hayden, TE, South Carolina (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Aruna, Ade, DE, Tulane (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Burks, Oren, OLB, Vanderbilt (A)
Round 6 Pick 35: Watts, Armani, FS, Texas AM (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Pineiro, Eddy, K, Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: McDermott, KC, OT, Miami (FL) (A+)
What draft simulators do you guys use? I’ve tried recently with Fanspeak and the other options to choose from but I think their rankings are really off like this one. I don’t think Allen falls to #11 and Guice goes 1st rd. I guess it’s possible but do you think that happens?
This was first-pick, and i agree about Allen but i could see Guice falling to the second. I have seen him in the second on a few mock sites too.
You could insert Mayfield in for Allen, if Allen hadent been there like i suppose he wont, Mayfield likely would be and i would have selected him. I would have select Rosen there too.
I have seen a few draft sites where Michel goes before Guice
I like Michel and he fits what Gase likes, but people harp on his fumble ratio.
Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Fatukasi, Folorunso, DT, Connecticut (A)
Round 4 Pick 30: Smythe, Durham, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 6 Pick 35: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (A)
Round 7 Pick 5: Adams, Tony, OG, NC State (A)
Round 7 Pick 11: Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)
Allen to be honest isnt really out of the picture for us either, but it seems we are leaning towards Mayfield. I think if we see our names called earlier than expected, then its going to be for Mayfield, but if we stay put it might be just as likely Allen is the guy that falls to us at 11, because the Jets are supposedly really interested in Allen, and the Bills are really interested in Rosen. Now that its sounding like the Browns are leaning towards Darnold that puts Allen as odd man out in the top 4. Again, this all depends on how much ya trust the rumors right now, but if thats how it goes down i will be extremely happy.
Sorry meant Jets are really interested in Mayfield
The Giants are major players in all of this. If they aren’t looking QB they can get a boatload from BUF which is what I think is going to happen. They might like Barkley or Chubb but with a new GM and HC, having lots of picks is good for the transition. They can look to build for this season to compete, and in the future. It’s not like these will be the last of the college QBs to come out. I have no idea how this QB class will pan out but it doesn’t have the feel of a must have for every team.
We re-signed Sam Young today. Nice depth guy for the OL.
He earned it playing well last year with 6 starts. Both he and Davis won over the coaching staff.
Young was also a participant in Ross’ business conference and likely has other options in life after football. I think he likes it in Miami, loves playing football as long as he can and he knows his role. He’s hung around 3 years in a row to re-sign with us.
RIP, HWH
How our OL is setup now heading into the draft, I think we could draft Billy Price in the 2nd if he’s there, even if he’s not ready to participate right away due to his torn pec. He still has future upside. You play with who you have as backup center if needed and in a couple of years he might be our starting center if Kilgore is no longer the answer. If he is, Price can compete at guard and be in the mix to start or offer top shelf depth. I think we have enough OT depth, C/G is more important from what I see.
Tim Knight says:
March 23, 2018 at 2:41 pm
This guy seems like a real asshole.
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That’s because he IS…
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/new-footage-shows-michael-bennet-crouched-fleeing-casino-officers-scream-everyone/
The team on top of the world signed him and he punked it up. Horrible PR after such a great season.
But now ya know why the Seahawks wanted to get him off their hands to begin with… they fleeced the Eagles with the trade, probably knowing something was coming down the pike.
CBS draft coverage has become a mess. You look for rankings and projections and for DT you get stats that are INT, TD and nothing meaningful. What happened?
Rang and Brugler left CBS, Bro.
Or should I say, Pro Draft Scout ended their partnership with CBS.
Now I know why. Thank you. It’s shit now.
What do you use?
Tim Knight says:
March 23, 2018 at 7:40 pm
What do you use?
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My “go to” would probably be NFL Draft Scout, though I check several to get a base reference. But from there, I use my own eyes to render my own opinion.
http://nfldraftscout.com/
Thanks, fuck me for not knowing they were still out there. LOL
That’s what I was waiting for and knew it was coming. You can’t teach his size, arm strength and mobility. That’s also why Ken has been saying he goes #1.
LOL @ all of the NFL hype these college Pro Days are getting this year!
Pro Days are nothing more than a final check, generally the most beneficial for medical rechecks, and for those who didn’t get a Combine invite.
Pro Days are NOT unimportant, but the NFL is HYPING them up SO MUCH this year unlike any other… WOW!!!
And as a friendly reminder… on-the-field action is rehearsed, and with players familiar with one another, on a very familiar field. There’s not a whole lot learned that hasn’t already been learned before Pro Days occur.
Game tape > Combine > Pro Days
You know what it’s about. This is not a knock. It’s Case Keenum vs. the blue chippers. Teams can hear the spin and see the zip on deeper throws where some guys can get it there, but can they when facing extreme pressure. It’s about velocity and movement. It’s all about projection and potential.
Keenum has proven he’s a good QB fighting through the ranks as a UDFA. Good call on him, I told you this before. He knows his limitations and plays to his strengths. These super talented prospects, if they do that, you have elite. That’s what teams are going crazy over.
Thanks, Bro! But even with that, my man Case went undrafted… 😦
I know, I said that. 😉
In the case of Hurst, it’s a necessity
I don’t really love pro days either
Tim Knight says:
March 23, 2018 at 8:04 pm
That’s what I was waiting for and knew it was coming. You can’t teach his size, arm strength and mobility. That’s also why Ken has been saying he goes #1.
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I remember the EXACT same thing being said about JaMarcus Russell, only Russell played in the SEC and not the MWC.
Look, I’m not looking to crap on Josh Allen… I’m just sayin’ that he’s a work in progress, he’s got limited experience (649 career passing attempts in college), he’s certainly got accuracy issues, and he’s not a ‘day 1 starter’ like the other “Big 4” QBs.
Now, with all of that stated… I HOPE he falls to us @ R1P11!!! We’d be the perfect place for him, learning behind Tannehill for a year or two.
Russell wasn’t about football. He liked the celebrity and chillin in the club lifestyle.
I said this months ago, as long as Josh Allen is a good character guy, he’s worth the investment. We also found out Ryan Leaf was not.
So what makes you think that Josh Allen isn’t about the club life? I heard that his nickname at the club is “Ronnie Mexico II” and probably has 5 different babies by 5 different mothers. Dude, he’s a PIMP.
*M13 is merely trying to get Josh Allen to fall to our Phins @ R1P11* 😉
And YES… I DO believe that Gase can fix Allen’s accuracy issues and turn him into a STUD QB.
I knew that’s what you were doing at “Ronnie Mexico II”. LOL
😀
WTF????????????????
Cocaine is a helluva drug!
I think it’s kinda cool
Does he have any football left in his body anyway
Good for him too find another field – we don’t need more former players on nfl network…lol
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Guice, Derrius, RB, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 9: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Bates III, Jessie, FS, Wake Forest (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Falk, Luke, QB, Washington State (A)
Round 6 Pick 35: Atkins, John, DT, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Flowers, Dimitri, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Joseph, Michael, CB, Dubuque (A+)
That draft is a pork chop dream
Smith, Guice, Gesecki and Falk
Make it happen please
Here’s how I’d rank the “Top-4″ QBs…
1- Josh Rosen: experience puts him above Sam Darnold (yet another USC QB with limited experience). Yet, I’ve seen Rosen run VERY cold at times. Yet, I’ve seen Rosen run VERY hot at times. Nevertheless, he’s probably the most pro-ready QB of this class and he IS good.
2- Sam Darnold: major upside, limited experience. Kid is a playmaker, yet too many ??? for my liking, as seen before by the likes of former USC QBs Matt Leinart, Marc Sanchez, Matt Barkley, etc, etc.
3- Baker Mayfield: by production vs top-10 Ds alone, he’s the BEST QB in this class, and by a rather far margin. His height doesn’t matter to me (his average O-Liners are roughly 6’5”, like Russell Wilson at Wisconsin), but it WILL matter to many teams. His ‘over-enthusiasm’ may scare some teams away.
4- Josh Allen: probably has the BIGGEST upside of any QB in this class, yet his production hasn’t met his potential. He’s the least pro-ready of the “Big 4” — coming out of the MWC — and will need to be further developed before becoming a full-time starter. Allen is NOT Carson Wentz.
I have them in the exact opposite order, though I’d have darnold 4 and Rosen 3
NOTHING wrong with that, man. We all have different viewpoints, and that’s what makes this blog GRAND!
I’m close
1 Rosen
2. Mayfield
3 Allen
4 Darnold
I really don’t like Darnold. Allen has a cannon – and might be very good. I think he has serious bust flags too (don’t tell WY)
Mayfield
Darnold
Allen
Rosen
I hope we stay away from this top QB crop and focus elsewhere. There are always mid round guys that can be serviceable at worst. You just have to take them. It’s easy to take a chance on the top prospects if you have the pick because the money is no haggle. Trading lots of picks for this class might be a huge reach.
This whole class…
Just not that good
Especially up top
If you pick early take your chance. If you’re trading the farm, good luck.
All this dissension both on here and among professional pundits about which QB is best tells me several things:
Don’t trade away a boatload of picks to move up for a QB this yr.
Don’t take one of the 4 unless you have a very specific plan and team already in place that works to his strengths.
because — There’s not a true #1 pick at QB this yr.
Wasn’t it Parcells (before he went senile) who said, “If you have two QBs, you don’t have one.” meaning if you have a controversy, neither is good enough.
Brady, Brees, Rogers, Ryan, Newton, Rivers, even Wilson and Flacco … no dissension, they’re the man.
But it also reminds me … hmmm, which of these were a #1 draft pick? Hmmm?
1 Rosen
2 Darnold
3 Allen
4. Mayfield
Just my 2 pennies!
It’s a QB driven league for the most part. Always going to be gambling on that next great one.
I’ve wanted to draft 2 TEs, but if we keep 3 QBs on the 53, we probably do not have room to carry 4 TES and having 2 of the 3 be rooks is a bit risky.
We need a starting rookie at DT, such as Vita or Da’Ron or Taven Bryan.
We still need a top-flight rookie RB, even though we have 2 U of Louisville RBs as back-ups.
ahh but I see we resigned Sam Young who has played TE on the goal line and short yardage heavy package. I believe he has enough ball skills to catch a TD pass as well.
sooo …
I read where Darrelle Revis could be had to play center field (FS) now and to mentor the kids at CB, but I;m not sure he’s the personailty type who is a good teacher/adviser.
My top 4 QBs:
1. Josh Allen. What he has you cannot teach. What he doesn’t you can teach.
2. Josh Rosen. Most polished and pro ready QB in draft.
3. Sam Darnold. More upside than Rosen but more inconsisty
4. Baker Mayfield. Great intangibles, average athletic talent.
Inconsistency. Yes I can spell
Agreed. People keep having varied opinions on all of them. It’s a Wildcard QB market. It doesn’t always go as projected.
The blow back from the Osweiler signing is absolutely hilarious. ” I’ve been a fan for 40 years and this is last straw. I’m done!!” Lmao.
I’m not excited at all, but come on. They need camp bodies, a backup, and he’s still young and is familiar with Gase and his offense. He might not even make the roster, but let’s overreact because that’s what we do.
LOL… I know really!!!? We also hope the backup QB never plays any meaningful snaps.
Ferguson vs Rosen last year
I watched this whole game and Rosen did not impress me any more then Ferguson. I don’t get it.
That’s why he’s my 4th! Lol
Actually it is a lot to do with his concussions already. He’s prone…….
Well, I have Ferguson as my #1 cause I don’t want us to draft a QB before the bottom of round 4. LOL
What about this?
Rd 1 Pick 19 (19) LB Leighton Vander Esch (trade down – 3rd & 5th from DAL)
Rd 2 Pick 10 (35) TE Mike Gesicki (trade up – 4th to CLE)
Rd 3a Pick 9 (73) QB Kyle Lauletta
Rd 3b Pick 17 (81) RB Rashaad Penny
Rd 4 Pick 23 (123) C/G Scott Quessenberry
Rd 5 Pick 19 (171) DT Justin Jones
Rd 6 Pick 35 (209) LB Jack Cichy
Rd 7a Pick 9 (227) FS Sean Chandler
Rd 7b Pick 11 (229) OT KC McDermott
I say this as a Dolphin fan that we should add a player like Leighton Vander Esch to keep the Vern Den Herder legacy alive. 🙂
I like the variety of positions picked. Every time I pick Gesicki, I feel the need to double down and get a blocking TE like Smythe in the 6th. I hear he may be moving up though and go before then.
MarQueis Gray can do that. He is our blocking TE/H-back/FB and occasional short yardage back. He’s a role player, not a star.
the TE will be gone late in the 1st
i was watching NFLN yesterday, and they were doing a mock draft live, and Bucky Brooks had the Dolphins trading up to #4 to get Baker Mayfield. That would give the draft some juice, although as usual, some people would downright hate it, while some people will be crazy excited about it. Such is the life of being a fan
What did it cost?
I’m guessing all the players we want like TE, OL, LB and RB.
Lol
That’s the funny thing ER, they didn’t even mention it. just that CLE is on the clock, and the phone starts ringing, and it’s the Dolphins on the phone. Didn’t seem to me like they put a whole lot of thought into the exercise, just making shit up.
My wife was sitting next to me folding laundry, and I said to her, if that happens, I’d be really excited, but I know a ton of people are going to freak. We all know what happened the last time Mikey Tradey Pants traded up for a QB
That’s the thing. You don’t trade up for QB and everyone pisses and moans……you do and odds are they aren’t going to be worth it……
I really don’t want to see them give up the draft to move up. If one falls then great. But if they do it’s going to take the whole draft because I think there’s a lot of buyers out there and price will be high.
Yeah, BUF can easily outgun us to move up, so I don’t think it’s going to happen, but I wouldn’t doubt that M-T-P will be trying his hardest to do it.
I think they may draft the CB from
Ohio State to add depth to that position
you just went 6-10, you just re-upped tanny, you just signed osweiler, you have Fales and Doughty in the fold
and now you draft a qb with your 1st pick?
it doesn’t seem realistic to me, i’m thinking LBer or CB depending on who’s there at 11
If there is a run on those 4 QBs there is some real good talent @ 11.
thats what im hoping for
I can definitely see us drafting a QB at #11, but only if the one they want is there. You have to always try and improve that position, and fair or not fair, the one constant over the last few years of mediocrity, except last year of course, was Tannehill. You have to try and do better, although they hope Tannehill will be more successful with more weapons, and better O-line play. Heck, the Chiefs had Alex Smith and drafted Patrick Mahomes.
Gase the QB guru seems to have the ability to take another teams QB garbage and turn it into gold, he has a connection with osweiler from the denver days. I think he has confidence in Osweiler, Iwe seem to be set at QB, to take a QB who will carry a clip board for at least 2 years doesn’t seem likely when he can add depth to another position that can be day one starters @ #11 is way more likely IMO
Lol
im thinking mayfield will be there at 11, may go mid to late 1st rnd
Id take him @ 11
Hes my personal favorite. I just really like the fact he walked on at 2 different schools and won the job. That’s hard work and determination. Dude is a leader.
He’ll probably flop, but I like him.
If he’s the guy they really want, I’d definitely take him at #11.
Rob – We only signed Osweiler to a 1 YR deal, he didn’t come here as a reclamation project. If for some reason he does get an opportunity to play, and does great, we’d have to outbid every other QB needy team for his services
Chances of that are very slim!
True that
I don’t take much stock in the length of the contract and he may not sniff the field if Tanny holds up,
the thing is we have the our starting QB and a Back-up this year, our starter will be starting for the next 2 years.
under those circumstances I think it would be crazy for them to select a QB at 11, we need depth in other areas like CB, LBer and DT or maybe another OL.
if they take Mayfield at 11 i think they may want to give me a call because they’ll soon need a Real Estate Agent!
Then there’s this from Bucky Brooks. lol
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000922784/article/stop-overdrafting-quarterbacks-plus-jpp-trade-fallout-and-more
I totally agree with his assessment, You should fill needs in FA’cy and take BPA’s in the draft, and it would appear that’s what is driving this team as they have plugged many holes in FA’cy
That’s funny yesterday Brooks said 6 QBs will be drafted in first round
There will be so many great players at #11 and throughout this draft. This is one of the best drafts in recent years, especially for what we need. move TE, DT, RB, cover LB, FS.
We don’t need CB, DE, WR, or OT.
Are you talking about at #11, or the whole draft? Ja’Wuan James is on a 1 YR contract, so we could use an OT at some point.
OR, we’ll just draft one next year
we need a cb as well, nothing is eye popping at that position, we could use a day one starter to challenge Tankersley, ward and howard starting would be lockdown!
We need a CB. Howard came on late last year and he looks good but Lippett is coming from injury and Tankersly did okay but was far from a game impacting CB
LOL Ken – Doesn’t mean that Brooks agrees that the QB’s should be taken, just knows that they will.
LOL I guess so
Brooks and Jeremiah were on NFLN with Jim Mora and they agree you pass up an A+ player for a B+ QB.
So he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth?
Brooks talks about filling BPA in first section. By second section, he hopes you forgot he said that as he talks about Bill Belichick always getting more from his teams without BPA players littered throughout. What’s the secret sauce? He has a franchise QB….
Mike E do I really have to learn how to spell Ozwallers name?
Assweiler
Eh, probably not Wyo, I doubt we really discuss him much once the season is underway.
Who’s Aaron Darnold? lol
LOL @ Hulk – Hulk smash Osweiler!
This is probably why we won’t add OL in the draft
Agreed, and that’s exactly why “I have a bad feeling about this”…
Really tough to tell with OL on paper
Got to see how they play together as a group
I would not rule out another interior lineman in the draft. That OL is pretty thin. You have 4 guys of starting quality then everyone else is a scrub or project
Rule out is a little strong (see below)
If OL is the bpa – go for it
But Think the team has the OL they want
So, in other words, we’re only going to be drafting TE’s, LB’s and DB’s since they are the only positions we’ve not added to in FA.
They’re trying to put together a complete team before the draft so they’re not forced into going one way or another with their picks and can take the players they want rather than players in areas of need and reaching.
Just because they’ve got a ton of guys at wr or de doesn’t preclude them from taking players at either position. In fact, it puts them in a better position than they would have been in otherwise. You’re not forced to take a DE because now you must replace Wake because you waited until he retired. You’re not forced into taking a player at another position because you didn’t address the position earlier.
Other than TE, they really don’t need to go out and draft any player at any one particular position at this point in time. So now they can really just look at their draft board objectively and “trust the process”.
Imo the 1st round pick is wide open
agree with that
So if we keep all 7 picks I’m guessing we add in the draft
2 TEs, LB, DT, RB
And then the last 2 will be wildcards between QB, WR, OL, DB, K & for the hell of if I will add FB 😝
Any of those wildcards except FB and K could be early picks if they are the BPA
We have a lot of flexibility
A trade up is possible too
I gotta think the team knew the Pouncey move was coming and targeted Sittin
I feel much better about our OL this year than last year
I wouldn’t rule out Asiata being a factor either
Gase and coaching haven’t exactly been eager to play rookies
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Bates III, Jessie, FS, Wake Forest (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13 (WASH): Warner, Fred, OLB, Brigham Young (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Noteboom, Joseph, OT, Texas Christian (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (B)
Round 6 Pick 35: Adams, Tony, OG, North Carolina State (A)
Round 7 Pick 5: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: ODaniel, Dorian, OLB, Clemson (A+)
11: R1P11
LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS
VIRGINIA TECH
42: R2P10
RB NICK CHUBB
GEORGIA
73: R3P9
TE MIKE GESICKI
PENN STATE
123: R4P23
TE HAYDEN HURST
SOUTH CAROLINA
131: R4P31
QB KURT BENKERT
VIRGINIA
209: R6P35
DL TRACY SPRINKLE
OHIO STATE
227: R7P9
FB DIMITRI FLOWERS
OKLAHOMA
229: R7P11
LB KENDALL JOSEPH
CLEMSON
Now that Hurst has been cleared to play, Vea and Payne aren’t in the conversation for me at #11 anymore. If we’re taking a DT and Hurst is there he’s the guy I want.
You might be able to get him a little later
BailBondMike says:
March 24, 2018 at 10:56 am
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Bates III, Jessie, FS, Wake Forest (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13 (WASH): Warner, Fred, OLB, Brigham Young (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Noteboom, Joseph, OT, Texas Christian (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Ferguson, Riley, QB, Memphis (B)
Round 6 Pick 35: Adams, Tony, OG, North Carolina State (A)
Round 7 Pick 5: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: ODaniel, Dorian, OLB, Clemson (A+)
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NICE!!!
I think this is the most unpredictable Draft we’re witnessing in many, many years for our Phins, and for so very many different reasons.
Mainly bc the FO is full of maniacs
I was just thinking our spot at #11 could be a trade up spot for some team trying to jump BUF if they don’t move up themselves. If we really don’t have any interest in a QB early, some team might contact us to move up ahead of Buffalo.
Yes I think so
Provided that the qbs don’t go 1,2, 3 and 4
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Jackson, Lamar, QB, Louisville (B-)
Round 2 Pick 10: Rudolph, Mason, QB, Oklahoma State (C+)
Round 3 Pick 20 (LAC): Benkert, Kurt, QB, Virginia (D+)
Round 4 Pick 19 (LAC): Falk, Luke, QB, Washington State (B-)
Round 4 Pick 23: Fumagalli, Troy, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 4 Pick 30: Christian, Geron, OT, Louisville (A+)
Round 5 Pick 18 (LAC): Scarbrough, Bo, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 35: Adams, Tony, OG, North Carolina State (A)
Round 7 Pick 5: Atkins, John, DT, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Ostman, Joe, DE/OLB, Central Michigan (A+)
Ok, I knew you guys would be excited to see this so I had to share….
Drafting 4 qbs doesn’t upset nearly as much as drafting Lamar Jackson with the 11
At least you worked in Fumagalli and Scarborough
Even wears Dolphins colors at the beach
Don’t do it Ryan! We have faith you can make it back into a top 15 QB!
New Age says:
March 24, 2018 at 2:10 pm
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Jackson, Lamar, QB, Louisville (B-)…
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It’s funny you should say that… as I’m studying Lamar as we speak. Could he be the ‘dark horse’ candidate @ R1P11 that nobody is talking about?
Oink and No
Accuracy Matters!!!
What “IF” Gase can fix his accuracy issues? The same would hold true for Josh Allen, of course…
Career completion %
Lamar: 57%
Allen: 56.2%
Career yards per attempt…
Lamar: 8.3
Allen: 7.8
you know better than that. you go off what you see and not stats.
How often do college prospects improve on accuracy in the pros?
The Coverage is tighter, the dbs are faster, the LBs more versatile, the pass rush gives you less time and the windows are smaller
I don’t think it’s realistic to fix comp % so low
Some offenses can help
FWIW I have big problems with Allen too for the same reason
Career passer ratings…
Lamar: 142.9
Allen: 137.7
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
March 24, 2018 at 2:46 pm
you know better than that. you go off what you see and not stats.
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Absolutely agreed, but I’m talking about the ‘Gase effect’, here.
And for what it’s worth, the ACC > MWC. Just sayin’…
Yes much better level of competition
But not what not does Lamar have a comparable low comp % which is a big red flag, but he often depends on his legs to make plays
And he makes big plays as a result
But that will get him killed in the nfl
I agree about Jackson and his running. Cam is a big guy and he got his bell rung plenty early on. Jackson running too much could be to his detriment and it probably hurt him a bit as a qb prospect in this draft because he isn’t going to be able to do that in the NFL.
A qb who is a dual threat is great in college but it rarely translates to the NFL and any of these qb’s with the poor completion % are going to be major projects.
Kyle Boller 48% comp
Jim Drunkenmiller 54%
Ryan Leaf 54%
Notable low comp % bust qbs
Weeeeeeeeeeeee
Rex Burkhead will play LT, and have an 87.5 rating by PFF. lol
Guys, I’m not endorsing we take Lamar Jackson @ R1P11… or even at all. I’m just thinking out loud, pondering outside-the-box possibilities that many have not even considered… which is generally what our Phins DO! LOL 😆
I don’t so much they’re looking to do anything other than get someone solid at that point at any position. I think they’re going to go with the player they feel can best help the team and it’s probably going to be someone who can have an impact early on.
Kind of like passing on Pearl Thomas in favor of Jared Odrick, right? 😀
OH! So Lamar Jackson’s Pro Day is 3/29… this week. HENCE the hype!
I told y’all last evening that I’ve NEVER seen so much HYPE over Pro Days in the past. And as I look at my Twitter timeline today, EVERYBODY is hyping up Lamar like never before.
The problem I have with Lamar is the same problem I had with Kaep, Vick, Locker, and even Cam to an extent. Accuracy doesn’t improve a lot and defenses figure you out really quickly. Lamar is really small so his upside is a poor man’s Wilson? We hope he has escapability while dealing with accuracy and injury protection from Day 1. I like him..but his is an uphill battle.
The only QBs I’d want are Baker with a possible move up to 7-8, or maybe Rudolph, in the the late 2nd/ early third. The rest are either fairly unimpressive(including Bankert), too high to pick in the 1st, or have significant downsides that significantly impact their upside.
dude, Benkert is better than Rudolph. Rudolph is just a name.
Benkert has never impressed me. Neither has Rudolph but at least he has the numbers in a big league program. Small program dude with poor accuracy. The end.
you’re talking #’s. WATCH the players.
When you look at what Benkert did at Virginia and you say something like “it’s not impressive” remember than none of his offensive “playmakers” will be going on to the next level.
Neither should he. He’s never been a top recruit, UVA isn’t a top program, he never topped 59% accuracy at UVA, the list goes on and on. Talk about a career backup or a guy that just flushes out and you begin the discussion with K. Benkert.
it’s pretty apparent you’ve never watched him play.
there’s only one quarterback in this draft who could run Gase’s offense better than Rosen and that’s Benkert.
I did. My brother is a huge Cavaliers homer. If they were supposed to be good, he always let me know. Lots of silence the past two years but we still watched some games together. Good QB in small college setting. Doesn’t have the talent for the big leagues. He isn’t some small school wunderkind or guy that got lost in the mix. He’s JAG.
way off the mark but everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
Well, here’s a professional evaluators opinion too. Not too far off from mine.
WEAKNESSES Throws with a low release point. Lacks natural accuracy and placement on simple throws. Poor completion rates on intermediate and deep balls. Needs to alter trajectory on some throws. Uncomfortable and inconsistent when throwing in the middle of the field. Tries to drive passes through a clutter of defenders. Needs to value possession of the football. Decision making can be puzzling at best on some turnovers. Failed to complete even 40 percent of his passes when forced to scramble. Gets into staring contests with receivers bringing underneath coverage to the party. Late to recognize blitzes and doesn’t have a plan to counter.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7
SOURCES TELL US “There is almost no in-between with him. It’s either a big-armed throw that whistles in there between defenders or it’s something stupid that turns into an interception or near interception. I love the arm, but I don’t know that I would ever trust him to play and everybody you draft might play.” — NFC team director of scouting
BOTTOM LINE Gunslinger who holsters an NFL-caliber right arm, but needs to work on his marksmanship and decision making. Benkert’s completion totals are disappointing on intermediate throws, deep throws, and against the blitz. He has the arm talent to make all the throws but hasn’t shown signs of becoming accurate enough to ever been anything more than a backup at best.
Well, I go off what I see, not what others have to say.
Same here. I see a lifelong backup at best. There’s a reason he lost the starting job at ECU and didn’t go higher than UVA for his next chance. There’s also a reason he’s projected 5th-7th in the draft. It’s what people have seen and continue to see.
again, I really don’t care what EVERYONE else sees. doesn’t matter to me.
You are right Mr. Ireland. Everyone else does see the warning signs. This acorn is going to be warming a bench.
and everyone else is WRONG.
‘shrugs’ maybe. Glad you like him.
We’ve drafted OL every year going back as far as Jimmy Johnson. I stopped looking at that point. I think that will continue.
New Age says:
March 24, 2018 at 3:39 pm
Well, here’s a professional evaluators opinion too. Not too far off from mine…
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DO realize that PROFESSIONAL EVALUATORS get it wrong, and CONSTANTLY, too!
Scouting is a totally inexact science, to be sure!
eggzaccery
what makes a person a professional anyway?
More or less, somebody with LOT$ of $$$.
one Daniel Jeremiah was really high on Ameer Abdullah when he was coming out. poo pooed the people saying the hand size wouldn’t be an issue with fumbles and people were making too big an issue of the injury history and look at what Abdullah has done in the three years he’s been in the league and the number of games he’s missed.
the same “expert” said that Asiata was a beast and had him as a 3rd rd prospect at the latest and said he may go as high as the 2nd rd. one of our own people on this board had a better eval of him then DJ did.
What Brock Osweiler signing means. It may not be what you fear
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article206676799.html
What do you’ll think about Justin Reid?
I’m a fan of Stanford, having watched all but 2 games this season.
I really like Reid’s size/speed ratio. He seems to do everything very well, but he’s not elite like an Earl Thomas. He also has experience playing some corner, though I don’t think he’ll be playing much of that in the NFL, but it does shows he has versatility being able to play more than one position. I do know he can play either safety position and that he’s a solid round 2 guy.
Cool!
I have watched Benkert a few times and I have been impressed. He reminds me of Matt Moore with a better arm
These draft pundits at NFL.com crack me up. They think they know everything about a player and how they will pan out in the NFL when they are just guessing. SMH! Zierlein said this about Ferguson, “Slightly built and could struggle to hold up to pocket punishment” and “His thin frame combined with lapses in pocket poise make it tough to see him becoming anything more than a mid-level backup in the pros.” He downs him about his size (6’4″ 212) twice but Tom Brady measured in at his combine at 6’4″ 211. LMAO
Compared to others who are under 230:
Sam Darnold 6-3 221
Josh Rosen 6-4 226
Baker Mayfield 6-1 215
Lamar Jackson 6-2 216
Kyle Lauletta 6-3 222
Mike White 6-5 224
Luke Falk 6-4 215
Kurt Benkert 6-3 218
Riley Ferguson 6-4 212
He also makes that comment about pocket poise right after he said this about him: “Strengths: Drops are quick and setup in pocket is crisp. Plays in attacking offense with almost 40 percent of his pass attempts were beyond ten yards. Looks comfortable in play-action and bootlegs from pistol. Careful to square shoulders to throw whether rolling in either direction. Will scan all three levels for best target option when he’s on the move. Good touchdown to interception rate. Has ability to make touch throws over the top of lurking linebackers in middle of the field. Effective and accurate with timing routes. Will put extra air under deep throws to help receivers when forced to get rid of it early. Throws pretty back shoulder fade.”
Do these guys even proof read what they write?
Nah, he ain’t worth shit cause he is a bit thin. WTF
Darnold looks bigger than he measured.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Brown, Andrew, DT, Virginia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 35: Watts, Armani, FS, Texas AM (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Nickerson, Parry, CB, Tulane (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Malone, KJ, OG, LSU (A)
That’s about as close to a perfect draft as you can get.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
As long as they agree with me.
But you see, I don’t care if anyone agrees with me.
If we draft the Utah Kicker Matt Gay – look out twitter, the pics I will post after FGs might be questionable
Lol
Your score is: 20831 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 16 (LAC): Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (B+)
Round 2 Pick 22 (K.C.): Hurst, Hayden, TE, South Carolina (A-)
Round 4 Pick 23: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Phillips, Skyler, OG, Idaho State (A)
Round 6 Pick 35: Jones, Justin, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Thomas, Roc, RB, Jacksonville State (A+)
UDFA: Ralph Webb, RB, Vanderbilt
D’Montre Wade, CB, Murray State
Ja’Whaun Bentley, LB, Purdue
Christian LaConture, DE, LSU
Osweiler has played in 42 NFL games with 25 starts, completing 584-of-987 passes (59.2 pct.) for 6,171 yards and 31 touchdowns. He played five seasons over two stints with Denver (2012-15; 2017) and one season with Houston (2016).
Osweiler has started at least four games in each of the past three seasons and was part of Denver’s Super Bowl 50 win at the end of the 2015 campaign. He started seven contests for the Super Bowl champions and put together the best season of his NFL career, completing 170-of-275 passes (61.8 pct.) for 1,967 yards and 10 touchdowns. The Broncos went 5-2 in their final seven regular-season games of 2015 with Osweiler starting.
A second-round pick (57th overall) by Denver in the 2012 NFL draft, Osweiler played collegiately at Arizona State.
Pro Football Focus said Osweiler was the second worst of 39 qualifying quarterbacks last year, ranked 38th overall and ahead of only Blaine Gabbert.
1- Roquan or Tremaine (Vea or Payne)(BPA @ QB)(vander Esch or Rashaan Evans)
… (or trade down)(unless Saquon or Minkah falls to us) LOL (The suspense is killing me.)
2-Gesicki or FS Reid or Michel or Hurst
3-Hurst or Penny or BPA left @ RB
4a-Falk or Ferguson (or Rudolph if he’s there) or BPA of DT, RB, TE, cover LB, FS, or QB whichever one we did not fill above
4b-same as 4a
6-same as 4a or PK
7a-same as 4a or PK
7b-same as 4a or PK
or pkg 6 and 2 7s and a 2019 6 and 7 for a 5th round steal we really need
I laugh at these beat writers with their headlines when the team meets with a prospect. “Top safety” and it’s Reid from Stanford. “University of Miami standout” and it’s Herndon. Top safety? Miami standout? They have no clue when it comes to these prospects
I don’t understand why you laugh at people trying to do their job in their chosen career.
Reid is the 2nd rated safety at a 6.1 (starter quality) grade by nfl.com.
Draftek has Reid as the 4th safety and gives him a 2nd round grade.
CBS also has him as 2nd safety and 2nd round grade.
He got 5 INTs last yr in a high level league, which is the type FS playmaker with ball skills and footspeed we don’t have on the roster. And he held up against Darnold, Falk, Rosen etc. who are all considered NFL arms.
I’d love to draft Reid, as long as we also get a TE as good as Gesicki.
sorry. I didn’t mean to poop on your guy
I would be pissed if we take
–11. MIAMI DOLPHINS: Derwin James, SS, Florida State*:
While Roquan Smith is still on the board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ElephantRider says:
March 24, 2018 at 10:36 pm
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
As long as they agree with me.
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Elephants may never forget!
But What exactly did they know in the first place??? 🙂
the difference is I don’t care if anyone agrees with me.
ya know, we all come here to discuss the team and our ideas about the team and right now it’s about who we feel we should draft or are the best players for us to take in the draft. we discuss what we think are the teams needs and what the best strategy is to fill those needs or maybe even don’t look to necessarily fill needs as much as pick the best talent that’s there in order to get better. whatever.
but when you share your ideas and you get butthurt because someone doesn’t agree with you then you need to grow a pair. sorry, but I get pummeled more than anyone on this board for my comments and I really don’t give a shit. you let it roll of your back and, as you can see, I still post my comments.
sometimes people agree with me and sometimes, a lot of times, they don’t. it’s okay to disagree with what people are saying. but, if you’re going to get all bent out of shape because someone doesn’t agree with what you say then, like I said, you need to grow a pair because it’s just opinions.
^^^
Is this what you had in mind?
Nobody can ever agree with Lou because everyone else is always wrong which would make him wrong. Right?
Perfect example right here. I could be like others who get butthurt over these types of comments but I’m not. I don’t care.
maybe others should try it some time. not caring.
You reap what you sow
whatever. again, if you’re butthurt because I don’t agree with your opinions that’s on you; not me.
Wyo
Easy not to forget when you know nothing! It’s wonderful!
Lou,
I’m glad you don’t care because it allows us to disagree and I know you won’t change your mind. You say your point, someone else says theirs, move on to the next area where we will disagree/agree. Outside of Benkert, we usually agree on stuff but I like the different perspectives on where the team is at.
so do I and that’s why I brought up Ridley as a possibility at #11 when we were all discussing defense at that point. I had my reasons for thinking that way and I shared them.
If people don’t agree with me I’m not going to go into the corner and suck my thumb for a half hour and then come back later. I move on.
Point is, we’re here for the same reason and we all know what that is and we all know not everyone is going to agree with us and you need to be fine with that and sometimes have a thick skin. If you don’t, then it’s on you. Not the person who didn’t agree with your opinion.
I really don’t care if someone agrees with my opinion. I know I sometimes come on here babbling like a person with bi-polar disorder (like Tim tells me) and I deserve to get some of the stuff I get. But, hey, I’m a grown man. If I can’t take a little constructive criticism every so often then I’ve got other issues I need to work on.
I know that I also have strong opinions on things and some think of it as though I don’t respect other’s opinions and that’s not the case. I respect other’s opinions but if I have a strong opinion on something am I supposed to change it just so I don’t hurt someone’s feelings?
We’ve already seen where this team thinks a lot differently than the normal fan so it’s good to explore those possibilities. Personally, I’m ready for a complete make-over and see how it goes. We have a ton of old dudes in uniform this year. That usually ends up with a lot of injuries which becomes an excuse for the team. Hopefully not, and maybe we see some new offensive schemes. Watching the audacity and inventiveness of the Eagles and Rams this year was a breath of fresh air. Maybe the Dolphins can take off similarly.
The older guys on the roster is also one of the reasons you’ve got to say that NOTHING is off the board as far as what we do in the draft. Besides the injuries is the fact that some of them are one year rentals even if they have two year contracts.
We can’t ignore a position like DE just because of the pure #’s at the position because, like you said, we could be looking at injuries. Hayes was injured last season. Could happen again. Wake could get injured. With age in this game it becomes more highly likely a player could suffer an injury. Plus, Hayes is only signed for one year.
So, yes, the draft could definitely go in a much different direction than any of us see it.
What I did with my mock above was to select only players Miami has shown interest in, whether it be from the combine, Senior Bowl, or just bringing in for a visit. Obviously, they aren’t going to pick every single guy they are publicly linked to, but I thought it would be interesting to see what a mock would look like doing this. It actually came out pretty good.
Who’s butthurt?
works well when you want to give yourself “a stranger” too
I keep a jar for when I have Indian.
LMAO ER, I just ate Indian food last night. It was absolutely delicious, but I fear what it will do to my stomach today.
I love Indian. I just hate smelling like it afterwards and the ripple effect. But it’s worth it!
I’m glad Mike E understood that was a Food Group!
Because I was taking it in a completely different direction!!!!!! 😉
LMAO – I could easily see how that would happen
Lol.
I probably should have left that alone!
But I hope you like Orange! ;-(
Darker teal? I hope so. No more wussy blue!
All I want is the 1972 team logo back on the helmets!!!
Well at least we are not on this merry-go-round with Landry!
I really don’t like the term butthurt.
What a juvenile insult and vile image that is.
Why if you disagree with someone’s NFL draft picks then that person becomes someone with a homosexual injury? or a constipation / hemorrhoid pain? Just filthy and childish insults.
And why if someone has a different opinion on a Free safety than yours, do you say they have no testicles? Oh … so pitching a WR as a R1P11 choice is soooo macho on your part? and any other pick equals not being as manly? You think it takes courage to type a guess like yours, but any other guess is cowardly? Why not just consider all of our opinions as mere conjecture in the spirit of camaraderie? Why do you think of yourself as braver than any of us other typists?
If that kind of personal attack were left out, then there would be no problem with proposing Ridley or whomever for R1P11. Mock drafts are just for fun anyway.
It isn’t the difference of opinion I reject. Lots of different ideas are great to see and think about.
It’s calling people names just because they disagree that I object to.
It’s mocking or laughing at others’ opinions that I object to.
It’s saying people who disagree with you “don’t have a clue” that I object to.
I do not have a favorite pundit or writer who is “my guy.”
I am barely even aware of their names as I read their stuff.
But I report it on here as another idea about our topic. Just for fun.
I have decades of intense scrutiny on the NFL. Saying my opinions are stupid and that I need to use my eyes is silly, as I have watched and studied thousands of hours of NCAA and NFL football.
and there ya go
I called no one a name and didn’t say anyone’s opinions were stupid. I never said any of that.
and we all throw shade at the beat writers from time to time but you seem to have taken exception to the particular “shade” I threw because it had to do with one of your guys.
Bullshit. I don’t even know which beat writer you were insulting. I don’t have any guys.
You are just a foul mouth who thinks you are the God of blog posters.
I am not always right, but neither are you.
Every post of yours is phrased as if anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.
Or a douchebag.
In the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People Stephen Covey points out that nobody can make you feel any way you don’t want to feel if you don’t allow them to do it. So, if you feel the way you do about my posts then it’s on you.
Wyoming,
I don’t know how I feel about drafting a S at #11, so I am kinda with you. I do like Derwin James though. He looks like he could possibly be a pro bowl sort of guy. If he’s actually there, i’d have to seriously consider him. He might be exactly what this defense needs to take another step. He’s a big time leader too and would be a great addition to the locker room, from all reports. It would depend who else is there, but I think James would be a very solid pick at #11.
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BPA in the first for me….at pretty much any position.
I was just saying if Raquan Smith is on the board still!
I like james a lot!
If the 4-QB’s and Smith are gone then he’s just as much in the Conversation as any DT or CB.
Something Jumps out of the games of Smith for me! I think he will be VERY GOOD!
I should say both LB’s are gone
Screw you, Lou!! 😉
Benkert scucks, draft Ferguson, LOL
Is this the part where I go in the corner and suck my thumb?
LOL
another personal insult
Who is Who?
naples,
The very first time I ever heard the term “butthurt” was when someone here said it to me. I had the same thoughts, but I figured it’s become part of our lingo here. Lol
rich0322, That did turn out to be a nice draft
we’re all guessing at 11, with that in mind if a CB or LBer slides to us do to a run at the QB position he may be BPA that also fills a need. the odds are that if this FO has an itch they may scratch it at 11,
so looking at the roster we’re loaded at wr, if we take ridley who walks? why take a QB when all he’ll do is hold a clip board for 2 years since you already have a starter and B/U? as for LBer and CB, those positions need day one starter depth so for my money that’s what i’m expecting.
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professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
March 24, 2018 at 10:45 am
So, in other words, we’re only going to be drafting TE’s, LB’s and DB’s since they are the only positions we’ve not added to in FA.
“due to a run”
I look at it from the point of view that pure #’s at a position should not preclude you from taking a player at that position. And we can look at it any number of ways. Amendola only has his first yr guaranteed and he’s often injured. Parker can’t stay healthy as well and it’s been one of the reasons why he hasn’t lived up to his 1st rd status to this point.
Is this the year he puts it all together? Maybe. Maybe not. However, the one thing that stands out more than anything for this team since Tannehill has been the qb is the lack of the ability of the offense to move the ball and score points. We’re loaded at wr because of sheer numbers but do the players we have there say that we’re more capable now of moving the ball and scoring points than we were in the past?
DE is another position we’re look to be stacked at. We’re not going to have a shot at a top DE at #11 but we can’t ignore that position because of pure #’s because we have an aging Wake and then Hayes who’s up there as well. Hayes is a one year rental.
I also don’t think that if you’re taking a qb that high you’re setting him up to hold a clipboard for two years. You’re probably expecting that guy to compete for the starting position and being able to move on from Tannehill going into next season.
DT is a need with Phillips looking like the only starter unless they feel Godchaux is the way to go this year. I don’t know if that’s the case but I’m not betting on it. So, we could see Vea, Payne or even Hurst at #11.
So, like everyone has said, it’s wide open at #11. If one of the LB’s is there, he could be the guy. If Ridley is there they could look at him as the ONE guy they need at the wr position that can help the most. Or they may go for need and go DT. Maybe they’ll surprise us and go with Davenport? Or maybe even Piggy’s fav Guice. In any case, it’s going to be interesting.
Wyoming,
That would definitely be a nice position to be in if we can pick between Smith and James. I think they can both be pretty good.
Throw in
CB DENZEL WARD
WR CALVIN RIDLEY
And it’s pretty clear we will get a good player @11
LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS is growing on me too!
It doesn’t hurt that NFL.com NFL COMPARISON Brian Urlacher!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to have that guy and he’s only 19 yrs old right?
born May 2, 1998
I don’t find fault with the Lawrence Timmons signing. No one could have predicted that one of the most steady players of the last decade was going to plunge into a mid-life crisis. He was brought in to mentor Raekwon, but that went badly both ways. Those were not the FO’s fault.
I did not like the Mario Williams signing. I thought he was done. But he was a former overall #1 pick, so it was worth a shot I guess. Same with the 2 TEs. I thought Julius and Fasano were both done.
But you can’t fill all the positions in one draft or even two.
I’m thinking these “old guys” we’ve got this cycle are a bit better of a gamble.
Amendola is a Super Bowl guy from a winning program with a big smile all the time.
Sitton is a known leader of that feisty attitude you want on the OL.
Kilgore has a high football IQ which you want calling the blocking for you.
Hayes is old but a top five run defender, and we are stacked at DE.
Gore is a HoF guy with a terrific attitude and complete skill set.
Denny is an icon, Wake is a legend. No one else is old.
We actually have a very young team. We needed some mentors and winners.
That was my fault on Mario Williams. I told them to sign him (LOL). I was a Mario homer cause I taped his ankles when he was playing high school football when I was stationed there.
great story … ok you’re forgiven for getting us Mario If I’m forgiven for bringing in Byron Maxwell due to his Charleston and Clemson connections while over-looking his sometimes shaky cover skills.
It’s a bit more than that;
Jones- 30 and has the one major injury
Sitton- 31
Wake- 36- one major injury
Larson- 30- missed half of last year
Amendola- 32- has finished two full seasons in career
Young- 30 but is a backup
Kilgore- 30 but wasn’t a full time starter until 2016
Hayes- 32- injury issues last year. Missed 6 games
Gore- 34- really old but durable RB
Denney- LS- doesn’t matter
That’s about 20% of our team being over the age of 30 when they play this year. That’s pretty old. We still haven’t found a solid TE or LB in FA in years. Not a fan of our FA most of the time. Hoping for another solid draft to make the difference.
Part of the problem last year is we were too young across the board. There are a lot of players 30-32 in this league. When an age starts with 3 people tend to freak out. LOL
Hey Lou. I didn’t say you make me feel bad.
I said you TRY to make me feel bad.
(and anyone else you disagree with)
… doesn’t work though.
I feel great about my life.
AND my 2018 mock draft.
Both are awesome.
great. and I don’t try to insult or make anyone feel bad. again, if that’s the way you take it then it’s not my problem
Okay Naples, here’s the way I see it. People on here could be having a discussion on James and how much they like him at #11 and I can join the discussion and give my opinion that I saw how he tested off the charts at the Combine but I wasn’t impressed with what I saw on his film and that makes me not want him there.
And with those comments the reaction could be “oh, here we go. Lou has to give his greater than God opinion and disagree with everyone because he knows more than anyone else”. And that’s not the case. I’m just giving my opinion on the subject, or the player. If I’m wrong then so be it. If people don’t agree then that’s fine also. Doesn’t matter to me. It’s only a game.
So, I don’t understand why anyone puts that much emphasis on this shit when there’s more important things to worry about. I don’t get a cut of the salaries of guys I want the team to draft. My life doesn’t get any better because MY guys do well.
But, they’re opinions and nothing more and, like I said, if you feel insulted by my opinions there’s nothing I can do about it.
I’m not insulted but I talked to Josh Allen yesterday…and he’s pretty damn butthurt. Mayfield also said he has a one hand response to you if you want to watch the Kansas game again.
Mayfield wants to give me a stranger?
Naples, your forgiven. Plus, you know I am a Charleston homer as well. Speaking of, I was pulling for CofC against Auburn. They had them right where they needed them but they couldn’t make a damn free throw and the turnovers killed them.
Lou, Godchaux played more snaps than Phillips last year.
Yea I saw that. Interesting
Suh played 877 snaps and next at DT was Godchaux 500, Phillips 402 and Taylor 185. So unless all three DTs snaps go up significantly, we need to add a DT to make up some of those lost snaps by Suh. Now one way is that the offense is better and we’re not in base as much because our opponent is trailing more often and we can go more speed rush package using DEs to get after the QB.
It may not be 1st rd but I see us adding a DT in the draft. Even if it’s a guy who is big and strong and can be stout against the run. Not sure what the team thinks about Gabe Wright who only played 23 snaps last year.
My butt hurts
Don’t judge me
Lou – It’s not really a big deal. There are times when you profess your opinion with a certain condescending tone, as if anyone who feels differently is just plain old stupid, or doesn’t know football from tiddlywinks. You don’t do that all that time, and I’m actually glad you’re here, I like your opinions, whether I always agree or not. BTW – You’re not the only one who can get condescending, I know I do it occasionally, it’s not intentional, but sometimes when I read back something I wrote earlier, I cringe at how it may have come across. We all do that.
Agreed. It’s the evil of the written word that doesn’t express someone’s temperament. Now if you say to someone you have no idea what you’re talking about or you’re a moron, well that’s on you. LOL
One more thing, what gets said here is nothing compared to what people say on other more public social media forums like FB and Twitter etc. Go look at a political discussion on FB and watch adults become school children within minutes.
Again, if I come across that way it’s not intentional. I don’t disrespect anyone’s opinion on here. I know I can have a strong opinion on a subject and maybe that’s why I come across a certain way but it’s not to say others don’t know what they’re talking about because I’m no expert.
This stuff is not important. You’ve got people like Ken who are going thru things right now and that’s more important than getting all hot and bothered over this stuff.
None of our lives are effected one way or another over what happens in the NFL and that’s probably a good thing
ER – These are the appetizers we had last night
CHICKEN KHEEMA GUJIYA
Indian spices, peas, minced chicken, avocado chutney
HARE PYAAZ AUR MAKAI KI BHEL
pan roasted corn, crispy potato, spring onion, chilly aioli
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These were the entrees . . . My wife took the safe route, I was slightly more daring
MURG TIKKA MASALA
tandoori chicken, creamy fenugreek tomato gravy
VINDALOO GOSHT
lamb cooked in a special traditional Goan spice blend
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I can feel it working it’s magic on my D.T. right now, the pain is coming soon
Pig says:
My butt hurts
Don’t judge me
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That’s cause I’m smoking a pork butt tonight when I get home. Must have been yours, LOL
Tim – No question about it man – It’s amazing to me how quickly things turn ugly on FB, and twitter too.
I don’t do Twitter but I have seen some of the comments reading sports there.
FB shows you how divided this country is with no middle ground about any subject. It’s really sad. Facts mean nothing, just emotions.
My FB feed is full of right wing conservatives insults to liberals, and left wing liberals insults to conservatives. It’s insane
Same here. And NJ girls talking about how not to mess with them. LOL
I discovered Indian food a few years ago. Hands down my favorite food to go out for. Luckily I’ve never had any gastrointestinal issues afterwards either. I’ve always wondered if that is overblown.
That was cool pick with Andre, Chamberlain and Arnie. I had no idea the Giant was in Conan the Destroyer. I had to look it up. He played the Demon-God monster at the end. Pretty cool.
I didn’t know Andre was in it either. It’s funny how they always made Arnold look huge (tall) with the camera angles, kind of like they did it with Stallone too.
The wife and I just watched Conan the Barbarian yesterday, and I was telling her about the dispute over his height. It cracked me up to see that picture on here the day after watching a movie I haven’t seen in a decade. The first Conan was actually an awesome movie in my estimation.
1. Have to Have – means you have an absolute void at a position.
2. Needs – means you feel the need to upgrade and/or add better depth and competition.
3. Wants – means you really want to add a top talent to a specific position.
So what positions would you put under each category?
1. Have to Have – a talented pass catching TE.
2. Needs – OL, RB, DT, LB.
3. Wants – a 3rd Safety, a young QB to develop, pass rushing DT.
The Flying Pig says:
March 25, 2018 at 1:24 pm
My butt hurts
Don’t judge me
Tim – Another solid outing for Matz. The top 4 have looked very promising in the spring, so there’s some optimism for the season now. Lugo is definitely a bad 5th starter, and he will have competition from Jason Vargas and Robert Gsellman if he falters.
Hope so. To me it’s about health with this team. The injuries have been absurd the last few years.
Yeah, if at least the top 3 can stay healthy in the rotation, that would be huge. Then of course, we need Cespedes, and Conforto healthy and producing most of the season, and that’s a great start.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly
Upon further review, this draft class’ top 50 talents aren’t very impressive. At certain positions – QB, RB, LBer and safety – it’s pretty solid. But if you need anything else….PRAY.
What top 50 has he been looking at?
Anyone know anything about him?
He played OLB for Southwest Missouri State
Lou, your compass is off. LOL
Like I said, he played OLB for Southeast Missouri State. lol
Interesting to note, because I don’t know about anything before 2015, the Dolphins didn’t meet with any of their 1st rd selections before the draft from 2017, 2016 and 2015.
Happens all the time. Sometimes intel from a prospect’s former coaches is all a team needs to know.
Actually, I stand corrected. That’s what I get for trusting my sauces. We did visit with Parker before the draft. Not with Tunsil or Harris though.
With Tunsil we probably figured no chance at landing him.
I can’t believe that the Draft is still a month away… C’MON!!! LOL
You guys suck, nobody wanted to play my have to have, needs and wants game. Fuck off!!! I’m quite offended. 😉
Our “3rd Safety” should have been David Amerson!!! 😡 :D:
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Pretty Sure we can Pencil Kicker into Needs.. not that we want to spend a draft pick on one…. there Butt Better ??
New blog up