2018 NFL Draft – Cornerbacks

This is the last look at defensive players for this draft after covering the DT’s, LB’s and Safeties.  I skipped DE since we’re heavily stocked there.  Every team needs a lot of good CB’s, and we may already have some, but there are definitely question marks.  X really came on strong at the end of the season, but is that the real Xavien Howard, or is the X we saw 3/4 of the season the real X?  Howard wasn’t the only CB to have an uneven season.  Rookie CB Cordrea Tankersley showed well at times, and struggled at times as expected.  The rookie 3rd RD pick was thrust into action after the Dolphins let go of Byron Maxwell.  Tank started 11 games last season, had no INT’s, and had 7 passes defensed.  Not known for his tackling, I thought he did well at times tackling, better than expected.  Sometimes maligned slot CB Bobby McCain was easily our best CB last year. McCain was played in all 16 games, and was the most consistent DB we had in coverage.  Tony Lippett should be back from his achilles injury which occurred last August, but I don’t know his recovery is going, and if he will indeed be ready.  In other words, CB should likely be one of our picks in this coming draft.  Let’s see what’s out there . . .

Denzel Ward  5’10  191  Ohio State

Denzel Ward

A little undersized for what we’re usually looking for, Ward is nonetheless the best cover corner in this draft.  He projects well at nickle, and we have Bobby McCain.  He can definitely play outside as well, but would we change our prototype and take a smaller CB?  The basic rule is you don’t go against your prototype parameters, because then all of a sudden, you have a team full of odd matching pieces.  On the other hand, in today’s NFL, teams trot out 4 and 5 WR formations so often, you just have to be 6 or 7 deep with with talented CB’s.  Ward has great speed, running a 4.32 in addition to a 39″ vertical and a 139″ broad jump, and 16 reps.  This kid is a thoroughbred athlete, and while his stats at Ohio State don’t reflect just how good he is, he’s the top rated corner in this draft at 6.31.  If we ere take Ward, it would have to be at #11, if he’s even still there, and it’s very possible he’s already gone.


Josh Jackson  6’1  192  Iowa


All hail the Ballhawk!  Jackson had a terrific Junior year to end his college career and put him in excellent standing for the NFL Draft.  Jackson started 13 games, and finished with an outstanding 8 INT’s, (2 for TD’s), 48 tackles (34 solo), 1 FF, and an amazing 18 passes defensed.  You could easily make the argument that Jackson is the best cover corner, but I think Ward gets the nod for his potential in the pros, and his edge in speed and athleticism.  Jackson ran a pedestrian 4.56 at the combine, but his 4.03 20 yard shuttle shows good short area burst.  Jackson will probably be a 1st RD pick, somewhere in last 1/3 of the 1st RD, but it’s possible he slips to the early 2nd RD.  Either way, he’s almost certainly not going to be available to us unless we take him at #11, and I don’t see that happening.  NFL.com has Jackson rated at 6.0


Jaire Alexander 5’11 192  Louisville


Jaire Alexander had somewhat of a cursed Junior season at Louisville.  he sprained his knee in the season opener, and then came back 4 games later and aggravated the knee again.  Then he broke his hand at the end of October, which kept him out even more of the season.  It’s a shame, because Alexander had a fine Sophomore season starting all 13 games and totaling 39 tackles (31 solo), 5 INT’s, 1 FF, 1 FR and 9 passes defensed.  Alexander has excellent cat like quickness as well as good deep speed, running a 4.38 40 with a super quick 3.98 20 YD shuttle. I’m sure scouts would have liked to seen Alexander build on his fine Junior season, but regardless, Alexander is still a possible 1st RD or 2nd RD pick.  Alexander is rated at 5.99 on NFL.com


Parry Nickerson  6’0 180  Tulane


I wanted to look at some mid RD prospects as well, and Parry Nickerson falls right into that spot.  Long, but thin, Nickerson is another ballhawk at CB.  Very fast running a 4.32 at the combine, Nickerson was very productive at Tulane.  He finished his 4 year career with an impressive 16 INT’s, Despite his thin frame Nickerson still managed 15 reps at the combine.  A very instinctive CB, also very capable of playing press, he has excellent recovery speed as well as long deep speed.  Always around the ball, I think he’d be a fine mid RD pick for our team.  Nickerson is rated at 5.69 and is expected to be a 3rd or 4th RD pick.


Mike Hughes 5’10 189 UCF


Mike Hughes is an interesting prospect, and I’m sure our own draft analyst from FLA Sonny could give us more insight into this player.  Not much college ball experience from which to glean information, Hughes has some serious upside.  Despite his somewhat smaller size, he’s an extremely tough customer who has the ability to compete on the outside with bigger receivers. Hughes only has 2 years of playing experience, starting every contest his Junior year at UCF.  While he doesn’t have deep speed, he’s a powerful press corner, who is excellent at tracking the football.  His Junior year, Hughes totaled 49 tackles (37 solo), 4 INT’s (1 for a TD), 1 FF and 11 passes defensed.  Hughes is rated at 5.93 and at least by Zierlein, expected to be a 1st RD pick.  He’s much more about potential than actual production, so I see him as a 2nd RD pick, but we’ll see in a couple of weeks.


I’m sure I missed a bunch of prospects that you guys like so let me hear about them,  and I’m curious to hear from Son on Mike Hughes.  I wanted to include a late RD pick, like Tarvarus McFadden and Brandon Facyson, but since I only do 5, I just couldn’t fit them in.


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781 Responses to 2018 NFL Draft – Cornerbacks

  1. wyoming85 says:

    I’m ok with staying pat, or trading back. Depending who is left at 11

    What I really want to do is take the BPA in the second and trade up when it’s time to get the TE we want!

  2. wyoming85 says:

  3. mf13ss says:

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  5. Mike E. says:

    SB – Still not sure what you’re driving at with Kaep. Is it in regards to why he’s not in the NFL, or why people don’t like him, or both?

  6. mf13ss says:

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  8. mf13ss says:

    Watch the Browns pick up Dez.

  9. mf13ss says:

    • stangerx says:

      Talk about a guy who can play but would never want on my team. My current example of that for us based on history is Joey Porter, but Dez plays for us and might have a new one.

  10. sb7mvp says:

    Mike E,
    I thought I made myself pretty clear. Kaep isn’t responsible for the actions of others. If there’s a boycott or collusion it’s on the people engaged in those activities.

    • Mike E. says:

      OK, but he’s the reason for the actions of others. How could he be responsible?

      • sb7mvp says:

        That’s a leap Mike. Again, people are responsible for themselves. If I wear a t-shirt someone doesn’t like and they burn down my place of employment because of the t-shirt, I’m not responsible for arson. I know people want to make this connection, but it’s not a reality.

    • D says:

      I doubt Dez gets picked up on waivers because other teams are going to have the same problem the Cowboys did picking up his contract. He will become a FA and then a team can negotiate a better one.

  11. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 13, 2018 at 11:57 am

    Wow D! In what universe is Kaep like Jackson and Stills like MLK?
    It was more to show the differences in the two by showing the differences in others who have fought through activism for the rights of others.

    Stills methods are just as effective in a demonstrative capacity as Kaepernick’s are, but the message and the follow through is having an effect on change and closing the gap between the two side. Kaepernicks, especially early on drove a wedge between the two side and in effect widened the divide.

    These are similar comparisons to how MLK bridges gaps and effected real change by changing the hearts and minds of others and where Jackson does nothing more than force an even further divide between boths sides in our country. Thats where my comparison lie, not in the actual people they are. No one really compares to MLK, i said so in what i said, but you may have skimmed through that for brevity sake.

  12. D says:

    D says:
    April 13, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    I doubt Dez gets picked up on waivers because other teams are going to have the same problem the Cowboys did picking up his contract. He will become a FA and then a team can negotiate a better one.

    • D says:

      steveccnv says:
      April 13, 2018 at 12:40 pm

      Looks like waivers is only for players with < 4 years of service.
      oh yeah i forgot about that rule, thats true he immediately becomes a FA.

  13. stangerx says:

    Why doesn’t Kaep just go to the CFL and light it up if he can? Am pretty darn sure some team would sign him there for the publicity. He shows he has it and yes he can get back to the NFL. It is the league that let Roger Vick back in after far worse, even if thinking he had a whole lot more to offer behind center.

    He wants to go the legal route then gonna be a tough one. He has 32 possible landing spots that are individual businesses. Only way he gets more than “go away money” is if he can prove the fix is in from up top…..no matter what Jerry Jones says.

    • D says:

      I think he can establish a better case for himself if he did this. If he can strengthen the argument that he is good enough to be a tarter on most NFL teams he has more weight to his assertion.

  14. mf13ss says:

  15. sb7mvp says:

    I don’t care who Kaep plays for or doesn’t and I don’t really care that he’s in the NFL. I do care when Adults act like children or defy rational thinking. That’s my whole beef with this issue, that people are justifying poor behavior simply because of their personal biases. Sure we live in a capitalist society where money talks, but there’s a responsible way to use it and there’s a wrong way.

    • D says:

      But you cant control any of that. You cant make people put money into something they have decided against putting money into and as a business you cant just ignore a loss for social reasons. Thats just not realisitic in our society. Again, its seems your hitting on my comments, but im telling you socially and ethically im in agreement with you, but i also know the reality of this and i understand that the NFL, the teams and the public are reacting as they always have and this is panning out the same way as it always have and always will. CEO of businesses have been taken down the same way and for similar reasons.

      • sb7mvp says:

        I never said I could control it D. I’m not denying the reality. I’m saying the reality is broken and needs to be fixed. That’s the point you keep missing.

  16. Mike E. says:

    SB – Not sure how it’s a reach. It’s cause and effect. Kaep does his form of protest. People find out about either because they were there, a friend tells them, or they see it on the news. They protest his protest. He IS most certainly the reason why they are protesting, if he hadn’t done it, there would be no counter protest. I don’t get the responsibility angle.

    • sb7mvp says:

      The reason people are protesting is because they aren’t capable of acting like mature, functional adults. Kaep is the excuse for their inadequacies. Everyone is responsible for their reactions. I don’t understand why that’s a hard concept. I can’t show up to Fest and punch you in the face because you said something I disagreed with. Are you to blame if I take that course of action? Of course not, so why is Kaep to blame for people bullying a corporation for basically the same thing?

      • steveccnv says:

        People have beliefs and morals, you cant change that. Some people wont shop at Walmart, because of what theyve done to small business. Why is all the left opposition allowed to take place? It’s the society we live in. Its not about right or wrong.

      • Mike E. says:

        OK, so that’s where we disagree. I have friends that are cops, and they were offended by him wearing the pig socks. If they choose not to watch the NFL anymore because Kaepernick was a player in the NFL, I don’t see how they’re not being adults. Maybe not sympathetic or tolerant adults, but I don’t see that as immaturity.

  17. stangerx says:

    Good cause or not…..I put this as the profile pic on my Facebook page and am not getting my next job unless they drop the ball and don’t check it. Understand Kaep is different and more public, but you get the idea.

  18. steveccnv says:

    Dez cut by the Cowboys. Why? Because his production vs contract and him being a pain in the ass weren’t worth the aggravation. We should investigate further, there must be more to it😉

    • stangerx says:

      Yep — A guy as physically talented as Dez Bryant gets cut at 29?…well that says something about him, as does that the team had to hire a full time handler to keep him out of trouble and at practice the first few years. Am sure he saw lots of fringe players get cut for far less than he got away with.

  19. D says:

    sb7mvp says:
    April 13, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    I don’t care who Kaep plays for or doesn’t and I don’t really care that he’s in the NFL. I do care when Adults act like children or defy rational thinking. That’s my whole beef with this issue, that people are justifying poor behavior simply because of their personal biases. Sure we live in a capitalist society where money talks, but there’s a responsible way to use it and there’s a wrong way.
    How is it irresponsible for them not to buy luxury items due to whatever whim they have? Its it childish, sure, but that’s how people are. People boycott for all kind of reasons and a lot of them are just plain stupid. This is no different.

    Are they defying rational thinkiing, yes to your, and my rationale, but not to their own, so unless you think everyone should share the same beliefs, then you shouldnt expect them to come to the rational realizations.

    Pooer behavior is also in the mind of those casting judgement, you believe its poor behavior, they believe its his poor behavior and everyone has biases.

    There is no right or wrong way to use money, there is “your” way because its “your” money, to think otherwise it to say people should be force to buy things even when they dont want to. Then that follows down stream to the money the business is losing, and they shouldn’t be expected to accept a loss to support another persons social commentary.

    I think the issue is your overlapping the social issue as to the right or wrong of being able to have the right to protest with business decision of who to hire, how to act to remain profitable, and how to invest your money.

    Let me purpose this.

    Lets say, Kaepernick not being employed was the thing that caused the public not to invest int he NFL. So the NFL is losing revenues. I promise you teams would be pushing to get him hired to take advantage of the revenues it would generate to have him there. The NFL would be all for it too because it would help their revenues.

    Now, would that be responsible use of their money? If you answer yes then doeskin this boil down to your own social feelings on why he isn’t employed and not the fact that’s it is a responsible business decision?

    Again i hate to argue it because its obviously making me look like a callous asshole when i really do care that people have their freedoms. I also kept my Sunday Ticket all year so i obviously wasn’t one of the people who disagreed with him so hard that i cut it off. Still business is business and none of this isn’t logical when surveyed with a business mind. It only doesn’t make sense when you are expecting others to behave based on your beliefs.

  20. drg says:

    There’s plenty of arguments to be made on both sides of the kneeling issue. It’s clearly hurting the NFL business, so the owners have a right to be upset. It’s also crystal clear Kaep is being blackballed and kept out of the league because of it.

    I don’t mind the protests at all. Love how Stills has handled it. It bothers me how many people have manipulated the protests to fit their personal agendas, both right and left. I also question many of Kaep’s comments and agenda. That said, there is a need for reform and it’s being overshadowed by this whole mess.

    Just a lot going on here. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

  21. D says:

    sb7mvp says:
    April 13, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    I never said I could control it D. I’m not denying the reality. I’m saying the reality is broken and needs to be fixed. That’s the point you keep missing.
    No i get it but it cant be fixed because its human nature. There are fixable things and there is something that just has to take place as a change in the hearts and minds of others and people come to those points on their own. You are a person of faith if i remember correctly, there is only one entity with the power to change human nature, and people have to believe in him before that change can happen.

    • D says:

      So as to not say Atheists cant change, i was just speaking to another person of faith in the belief system we have, was not meant to be exclusionary.

      • sb7mvp says:

        People can make choices to change themselves. I do it everyday. Human nature can change and it has. We are a less violent society as a whole than we were in history. It takes people standing up for what is right and leading the way and it takes accountability. No one wants that. That’s why change is slow.
        The other problem is the one I keep pointing out in that people justify the poor actions of others based on biases. It’s moral relativism and it’s deeply ingrained tribally. The more that breaks the better society will be.
        That’s the funny thing. People are more mad at a person who says cops shouldn’t murder citizens, but they aren’t angry at the cops doing it. Instead of saying, yes, these guys are bad apples and need ousted, they are lumped in with all cops and protect the entire group. The other side of the coin happens too. Someone attacks a cop and is killed in self defense, but then all cops are bad.

      • D says:

        I think you are missing my point, you can change yourself if you have the desire to do so, but you cannot change others, they have to want to change and invoke their own personal change.

  22. wyoming85 says:


    Sometimes I wonder if we spoke different languages if their would be less confusion?

    • D says:

      Thats why understand people from other countries so well huh…..lol. The only way we would truly understand one another is for us to have to live in their skin for a period of time, good enough to learn to step outside ourselves and empathize. People have try to do that, they have to have a good enough heart to do that and thats simply not part of this world where people are out for themselves.

  23. steveccnv says:

    Seahawks sign QB Stephen Morris.

  24. Mike E. says:

    Tim – Did you catch my text?

  25. sb7mvp says:

    I have friends that are cops too. I’ve never justified Kaep’s stupidity. My argument has always been one of ethics vs legality. I’m also not talking about someone turning off a TV, which I think is overboard too, I’m talking about actively making sure someone isn’t getting hired in their field of expertise. I’m not saying that people can’t boycott businesses, I just think the reason needs to be more legitimate than the one involving Kaep.

    • D says:

      Who determines though whats legitimate. You might boycott something i wouldn’t, we might boycott the same thing, we may agree on some subjects but disagree on others, doesn’t opinion set the legitimacy of if for the person that decided to boycott?

  26. Mike E. says:

    SB – I think what you’re expecting is difficult. Keep in mind, all cops get lumped together, even the best of cops with totally clean records when it comes to verbal or written attacks, and I’m sure cops feel very defensive due to all the publicity any of these “bad apple” cases bring forward, and then you have a guy like Kaepernick they probably view as an antagonist against them, and it’s probably tough to just overlook it. Especially when it gains traction and people start piling on, they probably feel under fire themselves.

    • D says:

      He is right and difficult should be striven for, someone has to sacrifice for things to get better, but seeing Kaepernick as the sacrificial lamb for the goodness of society is blindness to the reality of what he is.

    • Mike E. says:

      As far as blaming Goodell to putting out a secret mandate not to hire Kapernick, my opinion is that no such edict exists. I just think that no team wants to deal with the negative pub surrounding him, and the possible fallout from their fanbase, and possibly even violence. It’s pretty volatile. People in Philly threw batteries at Santa Clause, I can see them throwing batteries and more if Kaep was in town, or worse if he was picked up by the Eagles.

  27. D says:

    sb7mvp says:
    April 13, 2018 at 1:54 pm

    People can make choices to change themselves. I do it everyday. Human nature can change and it has. We are a less violent society as a whole than we were in history. It takes people standing up for what is right and leading the way and it takes accountability. No one wants that. That’s why change is slow.
    The other problem is the one I keep pointing out in that people justify the poor actions of others based on biases. It’s moral relativism and it’s deeply ingrained tribally. The more that breaks the better society will be.
    That’s the funny thing. People are more mad at a person who says cops shouldn’t murder citizens, but they aren’t angry at the cops doing it. Instead of saying, yes, these guys are bad apples and need ousted, they are lumped in with all cops and protect the entire group. The other side of the coin happens too. Someone attacks a cop and is killed in self defense, but then all cops are bad.
    I havent justified their actions i have just pointed out, its their right as much as it is anyone elses to make a different decision. That change you are talking about comes from a commitment to always want to evolve and be a better person, its in your heart to want to do that, but its not in everyone’s, or at least not in everyone all the time. Thats not how i want it to be that’s just fact. I also promise you, people like Kaepernick do not further it, they make it harder, the make people dig in on their beliefs and not take the time to listen to someone elses. He is the anti-what you are wanting.

    I dont think people are more mad at a person saying cops shouldnt murder people as they are cops doing it, i think they are mad at a person who exposes himself to have a hatred for cops, and America, and then they closed their ears to everything else. He had a perfect opportunity to invoke real change and instead he shamelessly self promoted and instigated anger and hatred. You dont see people losing their shit over what Stills is doing, he is having the same conversation. Kaeprenick intentions were not good and it came across in message even though he hid behind a very important one.

    • steveccnv says:

      And thats the biggest problem with Kaeps argument, people can make changes, but those claiming police brutality don’t care if those getting attacked (young black males) change. Both have to change.

    • sb7mvp says:

      Stills and others wouldn’t be doing what they are doing If he hadn’t made the first move so you can’t say he isn’t enacting real change. He’s even done things himself other than kneel. I’ve already pointed that out. This conversation is still being made about Kaep when I’ve said over and over mine is on a bigger level.

      • Mike E. says:

        yes, I gave Kaep credit for getting the ball rolling, now it’s up to someone else to carry the torch and bring it further along

      • steveccnv says:

        Kaep needs to move the focus to a different platform, but since he won’t he’s contributing to the problem, and really isn’t interested in solving anything. He cares more about what he thinks is the right thing.

  28. sb7mvp says:

    I know what I’m expect ing is difficult, but it should at least be worthy of striving for.

    • Mike E. says:

      No question about it. Honestly, I don’t envy cops. There’s no job any of us do where every day someone may be looking to end your life, whether just to kill a cop, or because they were involved in an investigation, or showed up to a call. Some of these shootings are probably out of sheer fear and overreactions to that fear. In any case, if people were more tolerant, and malleable, and were capable of listening to other viewpoints in earnest, and we were willing to do what it takes to make things better, it could be a much better world.

    • steveccnv says:

      Can we agree young black males need to change also?

      • sb7mvp says:

        Everyone doing wrong needs to change regardless of gender or skin color.

      • steveccnv says:

        The cops have changed some, what about the other side? You don’t seem to care about solving anything, just bringing attention to what you think is colussion.

  29. Mike E. says:

    Now Steve is talking about blackmail – This is getting deep . . .

  30. sb7mvp says:

    You obviously havent read any of my posts if those are your responses to me.

  31. D says:

    If you had a choice of Minkah Fitzpatrick or Josh Rosen at R1P11 (ie no trade ups or back) who do you pick.

    • wyoming85 says:

      Rosen-no hesitation!

      • Mike E. says:

        D – You’re kinda thinking Rosen may fall, right? I can see that happening.

      • D says:

        Just a what if to throw out there. Rosen, Allen or Mayfield could fall. Not saying its likely, Darnold is the only one i almost certainly feel will be gone by pick 1 or 2. But Rosen has been the less talked about on here so i just wanted to know if people thought QB over Fitzpatrick or someone like that if there was a choice, and i picked the Qb with less hooplah around him as the what if.

    • D says:

      I see a bunch of drafts with one of the top four QB’s dropping, so it seems no one really has a consensus on how they think the top is going to settle out.

  32. CavalierKong says:


    I believe I understand where you are coming from now. But the kind of moral responsibility you are calling for is too subjective to EVER be agreed or acted upon in the real world. Humans can’t agree on anything let alone something as substantively complex as moral obligation. Moral relativism exist for exactly that reason. Unless some God comes down and changes us fundamentally, or we change ourselves through some scientific genetic endeavor, how else do we move away from it? Who gets to decide what is or isn’t the true correct moral behavior?

    • steveccnv says:

      Obama was supposed to decide

    • sb7mvp says:

      Grown-up s shouldn’t have to be told what is morally right and wrong. Even children know that. Anyways, we’re going down a rabbithole here. All of the answers to your post are in all my others. Im just repeating myself at this point.

  33. Tim Knight says:

    Go Drake!!!

  34. Mike E. says:

    D – Kirwan and Miller yesterday were making it seem like a lot of teams are going to pass on Rosen due to the 2 concussions he had last season, and possibly his dedication to the game

  35. Mike E. says:

    SB – Don’t worry about repeating yourself, that’s all we do around here. Cespedes!

  36. wyoming85 says:

  37. Mike E. says:


    And there it is . . . Plawecki on the DL with a hairline fracture, and d’Arnaud to have TJ surgery. Mets are bringing back up C Jose Lobaton and OF Brandon Nimmo, and optioning RP Jacob Rhame to the minors.

  38. CavalierKong says:


    LOL, apologies for making you repeat yourself (or not as the case may be). I was trying to draw out and real answer to actual problems instead of philosophical idealisms. So what Steve said earlier was right. You, as the grown-up, have decided what is morally right. As opposed to morality being a vast and complex issue, it’s very easy. That is an ironically childish viewpoint…or perhaps an unfathomably deep one, I’m not sure. 😉
    Oh, well. Back to lunch. Cheers.

  39. steveccnv says:

    SB7, specifically what needs to be done to fix the issue?

  40. D says:

    Charlie at Walterfootball had us drafting
    Roquan Smith
    Ronald Jones II
    Tim Settle
    Luke Falk
    Dalton Schultz

    I dont see Falk dropping that far, and i dont think we would pass on Baker Mayfield to take Smith, but thats not a bad rounds 1-4.

  41. sb7mvp says:

    I’ll answer your question later, loaded as it is. I have to drive out of town.

  42. Rockphin says:

    Wyoming, I love your draft at 10:13 except you forgot to bring the flowers

  43. stangerx says:

    Jessie Davis on his play last season: ““Overall, I’d say not very good, but I guess you can say I held my own. It was my first season, played multiple positions. It was fun, I know that. It was kind of stressful at times, but it also was just kind of fun to be in that situation where you can feel like you’re going to sink but you start treading water, get to it.”

    Hard not to like the guy.

  44. Rockphin says:

    So you guys think we are going to see Harris step up this year?

    • stangerx says:

      Assuming it will happen, but also seems we are real strong at DE. Think he was drafted to be the next Wake up….and that fits with the moves.

    • mf13ss says:

      I think that’s a good question. Seems he’ll be relegated to pass-rushing sits, due to our immense depth at the DE position. I’m not sure he’ll see enough reps to REALLY stand out, but we’ll see. I’m hoping for the best, of course.

    • Ken says:

      I think Harris is primed to have a good year. He showed flashes of being a good pass rusher last season. I feel optimistic about him

  45. Rockphin says:

    SB7 are you related or something?

  46. Rockphin says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 13, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    Obama was supposed to decide

    Yeah and now it is somebody else’s turn somebody who is morally bankrupt on top of being financially bankrupt several times

  47. Rockphin says:

    Dez Bryant got the Randy Moss treatment?

  48. mf13ss says:

    I’m beginning to think that there’s a real chance that Quenton Nelson could fall right into our laps @ R1P11 if we stay put. But with the moves we we’ve made in FA, would we still want him if a playmaker is still on the board?

    And for that very reason (being Nelson’s a Guard, and not a playmaker), I could see him falling to us.

    As we know, this WR class is picking up some steam as of late… ESPECIALLY Calvin Ridley.

  49. Tim Knight says:

    Gase said the plan is to rotate 8 on the DL keeping everyone’s snaps reasonable. I don’t think Harris will be limited at all. We might even see more than two DEs on the field at the same time in sub packages.

    • Ken says:

      We can actually imitate the Giants old NASCAR package with 3 or 4 speed rushers on the field at the same time. It used to give the Patriots fits

  50. wyoming85 says:

  51. CavalierKong says:

    sb7mvp says:
    April 13, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Morality is pretty simple. It’s execution that people have trouble withn


    If morality is simple, I’d be curious as to what your simple solution would be to the Trolley Problem. What would be the moral solution, and do you believe your answer is the only correct one?
    I know it’s a cliché, 1st year college question, for that I apologize, but for the purposes of our conversation, I think it adequately illustrates that morality isn’t simple, cut and dry, or easy, as you say it is. It’s subjective and messy. This problem is an extreme, but it establishes a premise that you can’t discount. From there it’s just a matter of degree.

    I’d also be curious as to where your own moral imperative comes from? The only standard of comparison we have as kids or grown-ups to ‘know’ what is right, is our society (including religion) and our environment, the very definition of moral relativism, lol. We can also contrast it with other societal standards, i.e. “geez, it’s horrible how the Japanese kill Dolphins”. Comparing and contrasting our developed beliefs with societal morality is how we as individuals determine our own place in the discussion. If you dispute that, then where does your moral imperative come from? Your brain in a vacuum? Grown-ups should just ‘know’ what is morally right is a copout non-answer IMO.

    In regards to Kaep, my personal view is two sides are having a discussion about current societal morality. Kaep chose to make himself one of the battlegrounds for this discussion with his stance, essentially a martyr. He clouded the issue by his choice of protest (maybe by design), and the fact he isn’t really likeable, and brought a different element into the discussion (disrespecting the flag and military) which partially changed the discussion, but the original discussion is still there as well.

    For you to say Kaep isn’t responsible for other people’s reactions is you taking Kaep’s own protest away from him. He chose this fight on PURPOSE, IMO he knew to some degree how this would go down, and he continues to keep the conversation relevant by ‘attempting’ to get back into football. He knows no team will sign him if he keeps kneeling. He is continuing the fight. Probably the last thing he wants is to be signed as a backup, and for nobody to say a thing about him kneeling again.

    LOL, sorry I went down the rabbit hole.

    • wyoming85 says:


      • D says:

        Meh, i definitely feel there were two or three more paragraphs to be had there.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I usually don’t have the time nor inclination to get into drawn out debates here, so I keep things short and sweet, but this is a potentially fun convo, so I let go a little bit, lol.

    • stangerx says:

      Rabbit hole it was Cav. 🙂

      To me morality is simple and not anything came up with myself. The Golden Rule. Treat all others in the way would like them to treat me. Not saying walk on water, but at least never walk away from any given situation feeling guilty.

    • D says:

      I believe Morality is simple, because i think inherently most people grow up knowing when they are doing right and wrong. There is a voice inside them that lets them know. Call this voice whatever you want, but i thin people start to do bad when they start to ignore that voice. Being true to yourself and that voice will guide you to moral decisions.

      • D says:

        That said, it sometimes after i am doing some self evaluating that i realize i havent been listening to it, so self reflection and evaluation is also a big part of continuing to do what is right.

  52. D says:

    Ken says:
    April 13, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    I think the Broncos won’t pass on him. I think they go OL and are going to ride Keenum and not go QB in round 1. Their OL needs help
    Yeah i have mentioned that a bunch now, i dont think the Broncos pass on Nelson. I cant stand Horsey Face, so i really wish they would but i dont see them being that stupid.

  53. Mike E. says:

    Morality is simple! I just break out my handy dandy moral compass!

    • D says:

      I guess you could say accountability is a form of responsibility, but id add that in with those 4

      • Mike E. says:

        I think you could probably keep adding D. It’s extremely complicated, and I can tell you for a fact that my own sister and I, both born of the same parents and brought up in the same household have very different views on morality, it’s pretty wild. You would think it would be very similar, but outside forces have changed us so much, meaning who I married, who she married, and the extended families we deal with.

      • stangerx says:

        Not just outside forces, but kids just turn out different. Whole of nature versus nature involved. Sometimes think parents take both too much credit or blame on themselves. Only so much you can do.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Lol, nice. This and decoder ring makes you invincible 😊

    • mf13ss says:

      LOL at “handy”! 😀

  54. sb7mvp says:

    I would pull the lever that controlled the brakes. 😉
    Stanger touched on the Golden rule. That’s simple morality.
    No matter how you slice it, Kaep is not responsible for anyone’s actions but his own. Everyone has choices and autonomy.

  55. stangerx says:

    Would be a much better world if this was the group pic from the next G8 conference.

  56. CavalierKong says:


    As a general rule, and for the simple things, like “maybe I shouldn’t piss in that jerk’s water fountain”, it’s easy for us to make decisions by listening to that little voice (which I still contend is a product of upbringing and environment) and to follow the golden rule.

    For the fundamentals of human interaction, most of our voices are usually in concert, because as a society, we agree on the basics. Although as an aside, even culturally that isn’t always the case. I know some Asian cultures’ people can be considered ‘rude’ by American standards because they are more reserved with things like smiling (just one example).

    Anyway, when you’re dealing with complex societal issues that aren’t necessarily as black and white as “be excellent to each other”, that is where it’s not as simple as “don’t piss in the water fountain of that freakin jerk who lives two doors down and keeps letting his dog sh*t on my lawn”. There can be many right or wrong answers coming from generally moral people. For instance, I have chosen not to shoot that prick, but I DID piss in his water fountain the other night!

  57. Tim Knight says:

    Vincent Taylor was a pretty good pass rusher in college with 12 sacks his last two seasons, 7.5 his last year. Would be nice to see some of that from him at DT. He also has those long arms and big hands to disrupt passing lanes.

  58. CavalierKong says:


    I would pull the lever as well. I wouldn’t be able to sit and do nothing. I would feel compelled to act, and I would have to take the action that saved the most lives. But I can see and empathize with someone not being able to take an action that would condemn someone to death as well.

    • CavalierKong says:

      LMAO! I just realized that you pulled the lever for the brakes! Tricky SOB. 😀

    • D says:

      Let me ask you this then, if you found out that the 5 on the first track were all pedophiles and the person on the second track was a pregnant mother, how would you feel afterwards and would knowing that ahead of time make you make a different decision.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Knowing ahead of time would absolutely change my decision. If I didn’t know till afterwards, I’d feel awful, and it would haunt me the rest of my life. That being said, if I had no knowledge before hand, I would be compelled to act, and not be frozen by what ifs.

      • D says:

        Ultimately though you saved 5 lives at the expense of 1 and not knowing, you made an ethical choice to spare the most you could.

        Knowing first hand and making a different decision you stood in judgement of others and consciously chose to kill those 5 because you deemed them deserving of death.. Its a conundrum question and it really puts questions on what is a moral decision.

        The woman who is pregnant could grow up to abuse that child, marry a guy who molests them. The pedophiles might have had the label but the truth of it was they were 17 and their girlfriend was 15 and they fooled around and he got branded a pedophile. The “pedophiles could change their lives and go on to do humanitarian thing, ya see these things get hairy.

        I was asked once before, after i told someone i had given a guy money and taken him to get a tank of gas because he gave me a story of destitution and not having enough gas to make it home. He looked like a drunk, but i gave to him anyways because it felt like the right thing to do. He may have taken the money and gotten more booze, he may pull this shit on people all the time, but i felt good about my actions because my intent was to help him. To me if you pull the level and kill the pregnant woman, you did so with the right intentions, to save the most you can, sure you aren’t going to feel great about the outcome, but ethically these right decision was made.

  59. CavalierKong says:

    Have to leave work for the night. May be back on later tonight. I’m enjoying this conversation 🙂

  60. Tim Knight says:

    So did Vaccaro leave without a deal?

  61. sb7mvp says:

    I’m on my phone and it only gives me a few lines before it takes away the post comment button.

  62. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    April 13, 2018 at 7:13 pm
    So it was that Russian dog that was being a “dog” 🙂
    LOL, there ya go! 😀

  63. pheloniusphish says:

    SB – In at least one way I agree with you. Kaepernick is responsible for his actions. And he is responsible for the consequences of his actions, which are he doesn’t have a job.

  64. mf13ss says:

    Who I think will be our pick: Roquan Smith
    Who I think could fall to us: Quenton Nelson
    Who I think SHOULD be our pick, should he fall to us: Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen
    Who I think I’D select: Roquan Smith (if available)
    Who I think our FO WILL pick: Derwin James
    Who I think our surprise pick will be: Vita Vea
    What I think COULD happen: we trade up for one of the “Big 4” QBs
    What I think MIGHT happen: we trade down and select the BPA after that
    What will probably happen: we do something REALLY stupid and select an ambiguous player (who is HIGH on our board) at a position we do NOT need (ie: DE)

    Folkers, I have NO idea what to expect come Draft day.

  65. wyoming85 says:

  66. CavalierKong says:


    In this exercise, I didn’t stand in judgement of the five, it’s entirely about the value of the child/unborn. I value a child’s life more than an adult’s or any number of adults. I will save the child every time as I feel that is my first duty as an adult. Again, that is probably a societal influence compounded by having 3 kids myself.

    If I didn’t know ahead of time and chose the five, I’d be haunted about not saving the kid. Lol, of course, if this sh*t really played out, who am I kidding, I’d be haunted no matter what.

    Whatever that child turns out to be is irrelevant to me at the time of decision. I would act to save the child. His or her future is still ahead, but that kid will now get the chance to start that life and make those choices. That is where I don’t get into what ifs in regards to events after the fact. I can only act on current reality.

    When we would go through all the different scenarios of this philosophical exercise, my only hesitation would be if there were children on each side, in which case I’d choose the side with kids and more people.

  67. wyoming85 says:

  68. wyoming85 says:

    Somebody is excited we have Gore!

  69. mf13ss says:

  70. wyoming85 says:

    Good! Do a fly by and come home!

  71. Tim Knight says:

    We saw what Drake can do in a limited workload but heavy for 6-7 games. He’s a playmaker. Gore will be solid.

  72. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe some folks have forgotten?

    Click to access icrc-002-0173.pdf

  73. wyoming85 says:

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  76. wyoming85 says:

    You doing ok brother?

  77. Mike E. says:

    Hulk smash own comments!

  78. wyoming85 says:

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  81. wyoming85 says:

    Now I know how David used to feel! 😦

  82. wyoming85 says:

  83. stangerx says:

    I’m gonna predict that Dez Bryant will end up an AFC East team but not in aqua.

  84. stangerx says:

    Something that should make at least one contest in training camp a little more interesting.
    Bobby McCain said he was defending himself when he was ejected from Sunday’s 35-17 loss to the New England Patriots. McCain, the Dolphins’ starting nickelback, got the boot for hitting receiver Danny Amendola in the facemask with his forearm during a post-whistle scuffle.

    “It’s football man, a little extra after the play from both of us,” said McCain, who pulled down his second career interception on a pick of a Tom Brady pass intended for Amendola. “We’re competitors. I was defending myself and unfortunately I got ejected. It was too much.”

  85. wyoming85 says:

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  87. Mike E. says:

    What a gorgeous day here in NJ. 77 degrees, sunny and breezy. I can’t wait to GTFO of work and get outside to enjoy it

  88. steveccnv says:

    I think Dez goes to the Saints😉

  89. steveccnv says:

    On QB busts, it has as much to do with what team he’s on. Clev will have a better chance of busting anyone they draft.

    • Mike E. says:

      CLE should be much better after this draft. Dorsey is a proven GM, he knows what he’s doing. They will improve that team, and they already have some nice pieces in place.

  90. wyoming85 says:

  91. CavalierKong says:


    Bills guard, Ritchie Incognito reflects on his time in the NFL and states “…after taking time to think about it, and getting a new batch of steroids, it just makes sense for me to stay in the NFL. Where else can I get paid to take out my ‘roid-rage on people?”

  92. ElephantRider says:

    Go enjoy the weather Mike E.

    We are looking at 18″ of shit coming down up here.

    Happy spring! Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      That blows! We had two nice warm spring days yesterday and today but going back to like 48 tomorrow. I don’t want to see that shit again this spring.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    Was helping my friend with some work at his house and saw a bald eagle fly over us, it was awesome.

  94. Tim Knight says:

    CLE will win some games this year for sure and will be in the game in a lot of others. They have been in those even during their 1-31 stretch. They’ll pull more of those out this year. They have a competitive roster. That’s how it has to start.

  95. naplesfan2010 says:

    Tannehill has been seen off site throwing to Amendola and a few other skills position players, Osweiler is also there throwing as well.

    “Not many guys, in any era, could throw a football harder or farther than Ryan Tannehill.” – Phinsiders

  96. naplesfan2010 says:

    went out on my balcony and a mourning dove has made a nest in one of the planter baskets. Saw one egg for sure but might be two. She lets me get within 2 feet of her, watering, before she gets nervous. I don’t want to scare her into abandoning the eggs. Only takes 2 weeks incubation period.

  97. mf13ss says:


    Not sure if you recall (maybe you will), but I’d like to retell the story of my close encounter with a bald eagle about 5 years ago.

    I took two of my friends kayaking down a backwoods creek one sunny afternoon… Jimmy (RIP, this was 2 years before he was diagnosed with stage-4 colon cancer) and Chris. This was the very first kayaking adventure they’d ever been on, so I took the lead in order to show them where and how to navigate.

    So we’re in the middle of nowhere (‘no man’s land’) I just came out of tight curve with white water. I looked behind me to be sure they both made it safely through. Jimmy came through, and shortly after, so did Chris. We were moving quickly out of the curve, so I didn’t turn my kayak around… I just kept looking back to keep track of them.

    As we all made it through and into a wide, calm straightaway, I yelled to them, asking if they were alright, with a “THAT $#!T ROCKED!!!” . Again, I’m not looking ahead of me, I’m looking behind me at them.

    Jimmy and Chris looked just above me with bug-eyes, mouths agape… I knew by the looks on their faces that something is VERY out of the ordinary. I slowly turned forward and saw what I initially thought was a HUGE stuffed animal of a bald eagle, perched on the middle of a dead tree that had fallen overhead and across the creek about 10-15 feet above us… but then I saw it MOVE (OH, $#!T!!!).

    I was about to go for my cell phone to snap a picture of it, but I thought better of as much… I’d better instead be prepared to defend myself in the event it storms us. We were TOO FUNKIN’ CLOSE to it, and this was the eagle’s territory (perhaps protecting a nest of younglings?)… and it was NOT intimidated by our presence.

    The stare down began as we all lied back in our kayaks… and I was ready to defend myself with my kayak paddles as Darth Maul would with his double-bladed lightsaber. What probably took 1 minute seemed like 10 minutes. That eagle did NOT break eye contact with us. As we VERY quietly passed underneath, only being powered by the flow of the creek at this point, that bugger did a complete 180 on it’s perch — STILL staring us down — to see us through.

    We COMPLETELY respected it, and it COMPLETELY respected us… albeit it is was CLEARLY NOT going anywhere on account of our presence: that BEAUT was obviously very ready to take action if necessary.

    No joke: I SWEAR I could have come close to dunking on it (10′ NBA regulation rim height)… THAT is how close it was, perched above us.
    No joke: I SWEAR that thing was the better part of 3 feet tall… it was GIGANTIC!!!

    NEVER in my life (or SINCE!) had I seen such a majestic animal in it’s natural habitat. It’s a moment in my life that I’ll ALWAYS remember until my dying day, and I’m SO happy that my man Jimmy got to witness as much before his untimely passing.

    Lesson learned: I’m taking a “GoPro” with me from now on. There is SO much beauty to be shared with the WORLD.

    I LOVE the American bald eagle, Tim. Now if I can only get them to eat my dreaded enemy: Dobson flies… 🙂

    • Tim Knight says:

      I thought I was going to remember this story when you started but I think the one you told me was about a bear. Anyway, awesome story. Love that sort of experience.

      My friend and I hiked to the top of a mountain in Harriman State Park, and we had the same encounter with a red-tail hawk and its nest about 25 feet up in a tree and it was not happy we were there and it was dive bombing us. We did the same thing, respected it and said let’s move along. Wildlife no matter the size, will defend its young, they have no choice, it’s inherent in their survival skills.

      • mf13ss says:

        AMEN! And us humans are programmed with essentially the same inherent survival skills, so as to protect our children.

      • mf13ss says:

        There’s a ‘rhyme & reason’ as to why our young children and women have high-frequency voices.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yep! Except we’ve gone off in so many fucked up directions, you wonder sometimes what are we? Are their serial killer raptors etc.?

      • mf13ss says:


  98. mf13ss says:

    We’ve got avian wars in my area with 5 actors…

    1) Seagulls (yes, SEAGULLS!): they live on the river and want control of it, running in flocks.
    2) Crows: they think that they’re the ‘big bad-azzes’ on the block and run in flocks.
    3) Hawks: they’re an alpha-predator, but they don’t run in flocks like the gulls and crows.
    4) Herons: the river is their territory, but the gulls are messing with it. They don’t run in flocks, either.
    5) Bald eagles: THE alpha-predator here, but they stay secluded to the backwoods until their food sources run out. Then, they take to the river… but they don’t run in flocks around here, either.

    Seems avians aren’t so much different than humans when one ponders it, huh?

  99. wyoming85 says:

    if you want to see Bald Eagles go on the Alaskan cruise!

    100’s of them fishing for salmon!

  100. Tim Knight says:

    I’m just glad the bald eagle is making a comeback in so many areas after too many assholes almost wiped them out.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The same with wolves and many other species. I get the dominance thing, if you can you will. But there are consequences with that sort of thinking. The native American indians and many indigenous people across the globe seemed to have a great respect for life even when they made a kill. They gave thanks for their survival and their kills were all about that, not for the sport of it.

      • mf13ss says:

        I couldn’t agree with ya any STRONGER: I LOVE wildlife.

        I understand having to hunt to survive, but not for sport. And if one DOES hunt for sport, like the Native Indians before us, they’d better process EVERYTHING and not just hang a trophy head on their wall.

        I don’t have a very high opinion of ‘trophy hunters’… and I’ve got one who lives a stone’s throw away from me… and he calls himself a ‘Christian’. SMH

      • mf13ss says:

        I should not have typed my last line: “… and he calls himself a ‘Christian'”.

        I just have a REAL problem with people who hunt for the sport of it. LIFE is NOT a SPORT. However, I do understand that we need to SUSTAIN ourselves.

  101. Tim Knight says:

    M13, today my friend and I spent time trying to help a bumble bee that we might have injured not knowing. We gave it an opportunity on grass and debris to try and launch itself if it could. Nothing we could do other than that, but we took the time about life.

    All the amazing creatures on this planet should be respected. They are here for a purpose. Otherwise they’d be extinct. Senseless killing bothers me. Survival is another thing entirely, it’s the food chain. That’s part of life. I get not everyone will do that and I’m not as nuts as some others are lol, but I try to do my part not to discount them as a nuisance. I find it more rewarding to be kind, than to be violent.

  102. Tim Knight says:

    M13, the native indians hunted for survival and used everything from the animal and did rituals in respect for the life they took. They didn’t hunt for sport. Their food, homes, clothes and tools were made up of them. They were/are truly living off the land just like a bear or any other creature trying to survive.

  103. Tim Knight says:

    Back to football. I don’t care if we trade up a bit for prospect. I don’t think it will be a QB though. I think it will be for Nelson, Smith or Fitzpatrick.

    When you think about it, it doesn’t really make much sense to publicly say Tannehill is our QB and we get back our starting QB and stuff like that, and then trade up for a QB. It creates an immediate QB controversy. Not good for the team. RT’s first INT, put in so and so.

    If the team is invested in Tannehill as they portray they are and you need that running game and good “elite” defense as they say, lol, why go all out for a QB? You can still add a better more serviceable QB than what we’ve drafted recently in other rounds. You can find rookies more talented than Matt Moore. They will lack the experience obviously but talent is still the key. We need to find that next Jimmy G or a Dak Prescott. That there is something there.

  104. steveccnv says:

    I don’t think so. Not a ton of cap space and they are pretty deep at WR. On Dez going to the Saints.
    Come on Ken play along here, Ireland is still with the Saints.

  105. wyoming85 says:

    Well I guess I went to bed at the right time!
    I’ll just ask you one question?
    It’s cute to re-introduce predictors back into the wild in the west.
    But if they were dropping problem grizzlies 20 miles from your house you’d probably have a different view on the matter?

  106. Mike E. says:

    Happy Birthday Hulk! Hope you have a smashing day!

  107. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Smith, Roquan, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Smith, Braden, OG, Auburn (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 23: White, Mike, QB, Western Kentucky (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 30: McIntosh, RJ, DT, Miami (FL) (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 35: Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Flowers, Tre, SS, Oklahoma State (A)

  108. son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy Birthday Ken

  109. wyoming85 says:

    You doing OK Ken?
    Happy Birthday!

  110. stangerx says:

    Going to watch the Bucs take on the Marlins later. Going with Damian and the better halfs (some of you have met all four of us). Seeing a football game is like a rock concert, but for some reason any baseball game is like going to an old friend’s house for me.

  111. wyoming85 says:

  112. herdfan says:

    Happy Birthday Ken!

  113. son of a son of a shula says:

    Have fun at the game Stanger.
    I agree with big difference between a baseball game and football game atmosphere. Give my best to your crew.

  114. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Birthday Ken!

  115. Tim Knight says:

    Wyo, all M13 and I were talking about is how we humans have fucked with the natural balance of things. I wasn’t commenting on how officials go about re-introducing dangerous animals near homes. That’s another example of fucking with things. We’re so many years into it now I don’t claim to have the answers.

  116. Phindog says:

    Happy Birthday Ken.

  117. bookman11 says:

    Happy Birthday Ken

  118. bookman11 says:

    Worst winter storm here in over 100 years. 2 feet of snow, ice, and 50mph winds since Friday night. Yay, Spring!

    • Tim Knight says:

      That sucks man, I feel for ya.

      Not what you got, but we had 80’s and 70’s the last two days and today is 40, cloudy and windy. Really bizarre weather patterns.

  119. Rockphin says:

    Happy Birthday Ken. Here’s to to many,many more.

  120. manitobafinfan says:

    Happy Bday Ken.. hope the fight gets better for ya soon. 🎂

  121. manitobafinfan says:

    Bookman: i feel for man, we have been eerily lucky regarding snowfall this year. Barely had to plow the streets. Only places we still have any snow is in the shadows.. temps sucked and continue to but on the whole , no complaints up here… Jets flight to Minny yesterday got rerouted to Duluth , then returned to Winnipeg.. supposed to attempt flight to Minneapolis this morning for game tonight.

  122. Ken says:

    Thank you all for the birthday wishes. Hulk go to smash birthday cake 🎂

  123. Mike E. says:


  124. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, the Mets are playing the way I want to see the Dolphins play. Everyone plays a part and different guys coming through in the clutch.

  125. Tim Knight says:

    It seems everyone is worn out on projections and just want to get to the draft. LOL

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      You certainly characterised the way I feel.
      What more can be said?
      Unless something weird happens, like a gas mask type scenario, I’m ready to go.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Exactly! Unless something unforeseen or some kind of trade happens, there are probably 5 prospects that we’ll be looking at for #11.

  126. mf13ss says:

    HAPPY B-DAY, KEN! That extra candle on your cake today is PROOF that you’re WINNING, man.

  127. mf13ss says:

    wyoming85 says:
    April 15, 2018 at 6:40 am
    Well I guess I went to bed at the right time!
    I’ll just ask you one question?
    It’s cute to re-introduce predictors back into the wild in the west.
    But if they were dropping problem grizzlies 20 miles from your house you’d probably have a different view on the matter?
    Indeed, I’d have a VERY different view on the matter of hunting… but you’re talking about PROTECTION/SURVIVAL from “problem grizzlies”: that’s not the same as trophy-hunting, bud.

    I can most CERTAINLY appreciate the dilemma you’re facing and would never want to be in that situation, EVER. And YES… I’d pull the trigger to protect me and mine, too, if a confrontation were to happen.

    I was making a reference last night to a neighbor of mine who’s collecting disability, sponges off his wife’s massive paychecks, and goes on safari in Africa to kill innocent life. He’s spent COUNTLE$$ dollar$ just to travel back and forth from Africa every year, to have the carcasses shipped back to the USA, and then to have a taxidermist prepare the carcass for his ‘collection’.

    I’m sorry, but I’ve got a real problem with that. THAT is a large part of the reason that certain and many species of animals are rapidly disappearing from this beautiful planet… whether it be from whaling/sharking/dolphin hunting for their fins, the illegal ivory trade by poaching elephants, or the killing of big cats (ie: tiger balls are used as an aphrodisiac in certain Asian countries)… it’s just RIDICULOUS! And the list goes on and on.

    And if the honey bee becomes extinct, the entire EARTH is in DEEP POOP.

    I’d didn’t mean to rattle ya, my Brother! I’m WITH ya when it comes to self-defense/survival in your unique situation over there with the grizzlies. #2A… and I also understand that we HAVE to eat/live off the land. I think Tim’s 1:48 PM post today summed it up rather well.

    Cheers, man!

  128. mf13ss says:

  129. Tim Knight says:

    M13, I appreciate you as a known conservative also understanding environmental issues as a conservationist. My friends and I who have been all over the map politically, now all agree as people in our 50’s, that we need to stop denying obvious truths. It’s not about ideology anymore. It’s about reality.

    It really is a battle of agenda vs. solution. I’ll always be on the side of the latter.

    • mf13ss says:

      Thanks, man. I think many label me as ‘such-and-such’ due to my conservative leanings… and therein lies the problem with LABELS, as you’ve VERY often mentioned.

      The unfortunate reality is that the “duopoly” (the ESTABLISHMENT) has us FIGHTING one another about EVERYTHING… it’s truly gotten out of hand.

      I think for MYSELF… therefore, I AM. 🙂

  130. wyoming85 says:

    Prayers to the family of R. Lee Ermey “The Gunny”. It was a pleasure to have known and met his kind and generous soul!! May he rest with his Marine Corps Brethren!! RIP Gunny!!

  131. wyoming85 says:

  132. mf13ss says:

    “I’m gonna tell ya something and I want ya to listen” ~ RIP, Sammy (former colleague of mine)

    – IF we see 2… perhaps 3 trade-ups before we select, we’re going to see either of Quenton Nelson or Roquan Smith fall to us @ R1P11. This assumes that Calvin Ridley goes top-10 with the recent HYPE he’s been receiving.

    – IF we don’t see any trade-ups before we select (and I highly DOUBT that), we could very well see one of the “top-4” QBs fall to us @ R1P11.

    – Beside the two above scenarios, I have absolutely NO IDEA what’s going to happen in just over a week! 🙂

  133. mf13ss says:

    wyoming85 says:
    April 15, 2018 at 8:55 pm
    Prayers to the family of R. Lee Ermey “The Gunny”. It was a pleasure to have known and met his kind and generous soul!! May he rest with his Marine Corps Brethren!! RIP Gunny!!
    You had actually met R. Lee Ermey? If so, that’s awesome!!!

    RIP, R. Lee Ermey

  134. Tim Knight says:

    M13, the way we watch “nature” or “wildlife” which to me is the same and humans included. You notice things that actually happen. Those are truths. That’s what needs to be followed.

    • mf13ss says:


      I think(?) I know what ya mean(?), but could you expand on that? Or as Alex Trebeck would say, “Be more specific”.

      • Tim Knight says:

        What you see and experience is real, not trying to pretend that didn’t or doesn’t happen. A false prophecy is a dumb one.

      • mf13ss says:

        Yes, I can certainly follow that logic to a greater degree… but I don’t understand how ANY kind of prophesy (which is of the FUTURE) could or would disrupt the reality of the HERE and NOW.

        In a manner of speaking, that’s like leading from the back (see Obama… NOT trying to get political, either).

        We must be RESPONSIBLE tenants of Mother Earth in the HERE and NOW… and when we see the warning signs of imbalance, we’d BETTER heed her warnings. And as such and in the same vein, I feel we’d better heed the warnings of the Bible (and other religious books).

        I think imbalance — in and of itself– serves to remind us of how insignificant we really are, and the NEED to HAVE balance. We humans REALLY think we know it all, and have since the dawn of time… it’s LAUGHABLE!!!

        Whatever one calls it… Nature, God of Christ, Allah, Buddha, Zeus/Jupiter, Jedi, Sith, etc, etc, or otherwise… there IS a circle of LIFE… and we ARE living/dependent on one another (from bees, birds, trees, deer, cows, chickens, plankton/algae, etc).

        This thing we call “EARTH” is almost TOO perfect and a VERY special place, so as to cultivate SO much life… the only life we’ve ever detected in the known universe. Let’s not mess it up.

        THAT stated, I do NOT believe in man-made climate change (it’s a cyclical matter, by Jove!). Al Gore is a FRAUD… WORD IS BOND!!! Nevertheless, let us PLEASE be responsible tenants of this planet. I’m NO fan of these BIG CORPS, who have now gotten in bed with… (I’ll spare y’all… but I KNOW!).

  135. The Flying Pig says:

    new blog up

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