We did it!!!

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I watched HOF Miami Dolphins Center Dwight Stephenson stroll to the podium.  He looked happy.  I know why he was so happy, but I didn’t know then.  He then uttered the words with the 42nd pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State.  When he said Mike, my heart raced, and then he actually said GEH-Sick-ee,  I screamed a a scream of happiness, it’s possible Tim who is about 45 miles away may have heard it.  We did what we haven’t been able to do for over a decade since Randy McMichael, we selected a legitimate receiving TE.  I’m happy for Brian in NY, his son, and really, I’m happy for Ryan Tannehill and all Dolphins fans, because this is a gamechanger. It’s the secret sauce we’ve been missing for far too long.  Gesicki will open up that field for us, because he will be that nightmare that NFL teams struggle most to cover, including our own Dolphins defense.  Just his presence on the field will open things up for our RB’s, and our perimeter WR’s.  He will command attention, and that will give other players opportunities they haven’t had here.  I can’t wait!

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What about me boss?  In the 3rd RD, The Dolphins selected Ohio State LB Jerome Baker.  Baker who is 6’1 229 is a speed player.  He’s not a run stopping thumper, but he’s a chase and tackle guy who can also cover pretty well.  It will be interesting to see how Baker is used, and not to belabor the point, but where exactly does T.J. McDonald fit in?  Seems we keep adding pieces that lessen the need for T.J. with Minkah Fitzpatrick and now LB Jerome Baker.  The Dallas Cowboys want a safety , and we just happen to have one, and the Cowboys have pick #116 in the 4th RD, so maybe a deal can made.  We could get a DT, RB and maybe a QB, so keep your eye on MTP who has obviously been tied up and must be raring to go, if he’s been untied that is.

So far, we’ve done and excellent job in this draft, and I can’t remember the last time I’ve had the luxury of saying that.  Go DOLPHINS!!

                                                          JERSEY STRONG!!!

 

 

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1,556 Responses to We did it!!!

  1. BailBondMike's avatar BailBondMike says:

    I’m back in the office Tim. Thanks for the update while I was on the road. I feel better than I have going into TC than in previous years for sure.

  2. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    SEGMENT on 60 minutes tonight follows some of the 20,000 minority students whose tuition for college was paid for by Bill Gates and his wife. How did they turn out? I’ll be watching.

  3. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Mike Hull is going to have a lot of competition to make the team this year. As the Phins add top dogs throughout the roster they are also trying to upgrade the bottom up. Meet in the middle. Better overall roster with competition.

  4. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Something to think about with draft grades, I know it’s all BS, but…the Bears first 3 picks Roquan, they said best player on the board, I don’t think he’s better than Minkah, but it fit their needs better although no great find, there 2nd pick has knee issues, but if it’s not a problem he’s a great pick they said, the 3rd pick they said was picked a little high, but…

    Now compare that to our 1st 3 picks and since we needed LB and FS what could we have done better than we did to get Minkah first and Baker in the 3rd? I don’t think we could’ve come close if we had taken Roquan in the first and FS in the 3rd, I know Roquan wasn’t there, but if he was.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      These grades don’t mean anything to me because Fitz was an easy BPA and a position we wanted to add talent at.

      On day 2 Gesicki was one of the more talented TEs that we had to have and Baker is an athletic and fast OLB who can cover ground.

      Smythe as a more in-line blocking TE who is also more fluid as a receiver than given credit for, and a big, fast, talented RB in Ballage were solid additions on day 3. The end of day 3 was more DB and LB depth with a need for a Kicker.

      These pundits who grade drafts don’t know every team’s roster through and through. They look at 4-5 players with no real feel for what a team has or is doing.

      All I know is the 2018 Miami Dolphins team will not be the same one we saw in 2017. 😉

      Go Phins!!!

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Since you’re the roster guy, give us who you think is our starting group right now on O and D, and include sub packages too.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Oh okay, sub packages too? LOL

        Offense:
        LT Tunsil
        LG Sitton
        C Kilgore
        RG Davis
        RT James
        TE Gesicki/Smythe
        FB/H-back Gray
        WRs will mix and match – Stills, Parker, Amendola, Wilson and Grant
        RB Drake/Gore/Ballage
        QB Tannehill

        Lots of speed and playmaking ability.

        Defense:
        LDE Hayes/Wake
        LDT Phillips/Turner/?
        DT Godchaux/Turner/?
        RDE Quinn/Harris
        OLB Anthony/Baker
        MLB McMillan/Allen
        OLB Alonso/Baker
        CB Howard
        CB Tankersley/Lippett
        NB McCain/?
        DB Fitzpatrick (upgrade over Thomas – not a knock just true)
        S Jones
        S McDonald

        Lots of speed and playmaking ability.

        Too many variables to lock every situation down now. But you can see some mix and match possibilities.

        My biggest concern is DT. We need those young guys to really step up.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Who is Turner? Vincent Taylor?

  5. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    J E T S, jets, jets,

    Manitoba knows what I’m talking about.

  6. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    My proposal to reduce concussions is to go back to the leather helmets instead of hard cap, using the same underlying protection inside the helmet. My sisters husband played 4 years of college football OL, he says it won’t work, what do you say Naples? What causes concussions today, is it using the helmet as a weapon, because it’s hard capped or just the way some tackle?

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      Flag football 🤓 That should reduce a lot of concussions or they can play two hand touch. Or we can convert to the lingerie league were it would be ok to neel…. Not for the Anthem. 😆

  7. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    If I had to grade our draft, I’d give it a 92.5%… meaning right on the cusp of B+ and A-, and that means a VERY GOOD DRAFT!

    I don’t very much care for ‘outsider-expert’ opinions, being they don’t really know our team like we do. Thus, their opinions are poop. 🙂

  8. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I’d like that idiot to explain how in the world you draft Minkah Fitzpatrick but your draft is a failure. That’s just a shot at the team more than anything and by a guy who I’m sure sucks at evaluating talent entering the league.

  9. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    This draft was a solid A.
    And i usually find fault with every draft.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I find fault that we didn’t draft a QB of the future, being Tannehill may not be back to 100% after the long layover, and Brock Osweiler kind of SUCKS.

      I wish we’d have drafted an O-Lineman at some point, and I still don’t understand drafting Minkah when we have Reshad and TJ signed up. 3 Pro-Bowl caliber Safeties when all 3 won’t see the field at the same time but for ‘sub-packages’? And it’s clear that TJ isn’t going to be playing LB full-time now.

      These are the ONLY things that prevent me from giving this draft class a solid “A+”.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You draft BPA in the first, especially when you have FS issues making Minkah the obvious choice. Don’t we have a huuuge need to stop TEs?

        Look at some of our lineups to close out the season, we need depth back there.

  10. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Notice I left Branch out. He’s a solid player as well. Not sure how he fits unless we have a vision for a 5th DE. We might look to trade him to a team that didn’t land a DE they hoped to in the draft or suffered and injury. They have to be willing to take on a $10M cap.

    That said, maybe Hayes is more of a sub package interior DL. The coaches really liked a much cheaper Malveaux last year.

    I’m not sure of the plan. We haven’t seen it yet,

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Im not sure how Branch fits either, but I have to assume Hayes is going to play a lot of DT, since we didn’t draft one.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yep, Hayes may rarely play DE and be that sub package interior rusher while 3 DTs do the dirty work on other downs. Not sure yet.

  11. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stave, yeah my bad on Turner and not Taylor.

  12. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    M13,
    Reshad isn’t getting any younger , and his cap number is very high. TJ was disappointing last season, and TBH I don’t know why we signed him to an extension before he even played a down with us. I think it’s a smart move for the future, drafting Minkah.

  13. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Manitoba, yeah it’s a miracle Subban is fine, FN flop.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Seems to be a theme in round 2, all the teams down 1-0 are getting the calls, and the goal reviews going their way.

  14. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 29, 2018 at 9:01 pm
    You draft BPA in the first, especially when you have FS issues making Minkah the obvious choice. Don’t we have a huuuge need to stop TEs?

    Look at some of our lineups to close out the season, we need depth back there.
    —————
    But did we REALLY have FS issues? Granted, TJ couldn’t join the team until his suspension was served, halfway through the season. And yeah, we ALL heard the soundbite of Gase thinking that Reshad and TJ were expected to work better together once TJ got back.

    I’m not sure we had an ‘issue’ at FS, I think TJ was just getting acclimated to his new team, halfway through the season. We signed TJ long-term, without even KNOWING how that experiment would work out — again — halfway through the season with a brand new team.

    If we needed “depth back there”, we certainly didn’t need to use a 1st rounder to do so… know what I mean?

    I’m not sure Minkah is the ‘TE problem solver’… I think TJ is more geared for that. JMO, as always.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      We’re going to find out the roles soon enough. To me it’s all about matchups.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Yessir… I’ll reserve true judgment to the playing field. Y’all KNOW I hope that it all translates to SUCCESS!!!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      You gotta stop the cheats, Minkah surely helps, what’s the problem?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Who would you rather we reached for?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        If Minkah can show and prove that HE can stop the Patsies*, then I’m going to LOVE IT!!!

        I’m not trying to put the cart before the horse, I’m just trying to rationalize having 3 GREAT Safeties on our team. If it works… GRAND!!! 🙂

  15. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The Chiefs took it to the next level once Kelce become a star, the cheats with Gronk are pretty much unstoppable at the end of games, SD has been pretty good with Gates.

    What can Gesicki do for us?

  16. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    It’s not really just about stopping the TE. It’s about stopping the guys like Amendola and Landry. How do you defend those bunch formations with a bunch of guys who are quick and use rubs and picks. You need quick, athletic guys to cover them. Bigger, box type safeties struggle doing it more. If you can’t get a good jam, you’re kinda screwed…and those bunch formations are designed to counter jams.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s both. Corners cover WRs, but who covers those TEs and bunch formations? Like you said earlier tackling is key to all of it. You’re gonna get beat from time to time, but missed tackles change games. 5-7 yards becomes 15-20, big difference especially on 3rd and 15.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The good thing is I think our offense is being set up to do the same thing. We have a lot of speed and options on offense that we didn’t have last year because of a patchwork offense due to injuries and circumstance.

        Gase is an offensive guy, he hated our offense the last two years. He decided it won’t stay the same both with coaching and personnel. Here we are.

        Go Phins!!!!!

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        If I had to guess I’d say Gase hated Landry.

  17. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    We have really gone small and quick with our LB’s. Even going back to last year, Raekwon is only 6’2″ 247lbs, Jerome Baker 6’1″ 225, Quentin Polling 6’0″ 234Lbs,

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Raekwon is huge by todays standards, but he’s athletic, so his size is a benefit.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      McMillan is closer to 6-2 240 at 22 years old. That was the same size Harry Carson was most of his career. LOL

      Chase Allen is 6-3 250 and Stephone Anthony is basically the same size.

      Alonso is 6-3 235 and Baker is 6-1 230. In a 4-3 defense this is what you expect at LB. There is nothing out of the ordinary here except for little experience playing together.

  18. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    How many times have we seen our D get worn out on a drive, we need all the quality depth we can get.

  19. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    We ARE going for the 4-7 formation. LOL Tall big CB’s Big S smaller quick LB’s for DE’s rushing or dropping…..

  20. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Reluctantly crouched at the starting line
    Engines pumping and thumping in time
    The green light flashes, the flags go up

  21. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    This year is the year of Isaiah Ford

  22. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Toba,
    The Jets are a damn good team. I hope you get to watch a cup run!

  23. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Tim, agreed on your 8:06 post.

    And, this is the NFL today. We are coming out of the OD era….oops.

    We have multiple issues, including fs, or dbs. Not enough good ones. Also, agree with piggy on the 3rd third-down draft we just witnessed.

    We’ll see…

  24. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Not trying to start shit which is weird to me anyway, but we forget this guy who did not play last year. He can make big throws and make big plays with his legs. Add that to all of the rest that we talk about.

    If we can run the ball and be solid in pass pro we’ll be fine.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      he sucks!

      • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

        Who forgot he didn’t play last year?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        In social media people talk like last year was on him. It’s bizarre. Time to move on from Tannehill, we were 6-10 last year, is Gase and Tannehill really the answer? LOL

        Yes that kind of BS is out there.

        I look at Tannehill like I do the rest of the offense doing their job. I see potential for a good offense and team.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Tim just as with anything.its not necessarily about replacing him but having a good next man up scenario. You keep ignoring the fact that shit can happen it happened twice already putting him out of 22 straight games. I don’t question your love child offers us potential solid QB play but I do questions what we do if something happens again or if he doesn’t come back at the level he left off as. You see to just cast off those concerns too easily for me

    • D's avatar D says:

      We forget this guy didn’t play last year…..there I fixed it for you

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Yeah, that’s 2016

  25. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Really good double OT game between Winnipeg and Nashville. Playoff hockey is sweet.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Notice all the games are 1-1 or 1-0, think that’s a coincidence?

      • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

        Series ya mean ?? Shows how closely matched teams are .. i will feel a lot more comfortable if we sweep the 2 coming up in Winnipeg

  26. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Still so excited about this draft. I can’t wait to see these guys on the field. I love what we’ve done. OK, so we didn’t get a QB this draft, you can draft one next year, I swear, there will be at least 1 QB that will enter the draft next year. lol

    • D's avatar D says:

      I’m def excited about minkah and Gesicki and Baker has good potential. Ballage is a good compliment back to Drake. I was kind of surprised be the doubly up at DB and LB once we got two top prospects but they grabbed guys that can give us ST help, depth and possibly rotation support so those picks were soild. I give us a B+ overall

    • D's avatar D says:

      It’s not going g to be a strong class but I’m good with them not forcing the issue this year. Take it if its there take what is there if it isn’t

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      We just have to accept Tannehill is the QB until he’s not, and hope he takes his game to another level which I think he was doing before he got hurt over a year ago.

      It’s fucked up, we should be rooting him on and we’re not as a majority.

      I’ll be so bold to say it, I’ll take Tannehill over every QB in this year’s draft. The fantasy of projection can override true performance. Let’s see them all do it. Take the hits, make the big throws, the speed of the game is more than you ever knew. Go be great. Good luck! LOL

      The latest draft class is always better when half of them won’t beat out seasoned vets.

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D – That’s it in a nutshell. They had more pressing needs this year, special teams is a big part of the game, and we took some hits in that dept. this year. We needed to replenish that, while also adding competition at LB. Minkah definitely upgrades the back end of our defense. Gesicki will no doubt give our offense a jolt, and Smythe should see some playing time as an in line blocking TE. Filled a bunch of needs, and was especially happy we did so w/o moving all over the place and sacrificing future assets. Well done!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Good post. We have become a really athletic and fast team. Now it’s time to make that a good team.

      Go Phins!!!!

  28. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Siggghh tough loss in double OT but Jets looked much better tonight

    Randy Steve and OD thanks for the props to the team.. been a long time coming as we were without a team for 15 ish years .. FO has done a hellebuyck job drafting and developing to get to this point .. we are young, we are fierce, we are the Winnipeg Jets🏒🏒. Good luck to yer Golden Knights Steve thats a surrealistic situation going on there … also good luck to ODs Lightning.. i was a very small minority cheering them on against the Flames to their first cup.. Randy, sorry about your loss 😎. I ll try to buy ya A beer at Vikes or Packers game if we manage to get to them.

  29. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    This is how much some of these draftniks know:
    On every analysis of the Dolphins draft I have read, the Ballage pick went something like this:

    “Will be a good change of pace back and complement Frank Gore”

    Huh? Gore will be complimenting Drake, and I have not read ONE article that even mentions Kenyan!!!!!!

  30. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    For super hero fans everywhere

  31. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    D says:
    April 29, 2018 at 11:01 pm
    Tim just as with anything.its not necessarily about replacing him but having a good next man up scenario. You keep ignoring the fact that shit can happen it happened twice already putting him out of 22 straight games. I don’t question your love child offers us potential solid QB play but I do questions what we do if something happens again or if he doesn’t come back at the level he left off as. You see to just cast off those concerns too easily for me.
    ___________
    Pretty much my sentiments. We’ve got Tannehill coming back from injury and we’re going to rely on Osweiler and Fales whenever we face a break the glass scenario? We saw what not having a good plan did for us at QB last year.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      If RT goes down for the year we’re not going anywhere anyways, the only situation where a backup will help is if RT gets hurt and will miss 4 or 5 games and we need the backup to win 2 or 3.

      Even Belicheat didn’t win enough when Brady went down. Dont expect another Philly situation. Gase must feel the team isn’t ready to compete for a title yet or he has confidence in Brock, it worked before.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      All I said was how it went down. Not whether it was a good idea or not. The FO must be confident that Tannehill is good to go and they don’t fear any setbacks from his knee injury. Lots of team have meh backups.

  32. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Even if only Minkah and Gesicki significantly contribute this year with decent success i’ll call the draft a success. I expect Baker to make a significant contribution too, even if only on 3rd down. We don’t currently have someone with his pass coverage skills, maybe Raekwon, but…

  33. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I just wonder, in the first game when we come out on offense barring injury of course, on 1st and 10 who will be the starting tailback?

    I highly doubt it will be Drake.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Why

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Gase doesn’t use his backs that way. He puts one in for a series or two, maybe switching the 3rd down back in on 3rd down, then he uses the other back. Ballage should see the bulk of the 3rd down carries and the other 2 will alternate, with the one having the hot hand maybe getting more snaps. Starting or not might not matter, and they may alternate based on opponent. Not sure Gase even knows yet.

        How much does Gore have left? Splitting the carries, more than he’s even had to do will also prolong his career. I don’t care who rushes for an individual amount, but the team needs to get about 2k.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        I think he realizes he needs to put this team in manageable 2nd and 3rd down situations, having Drake run up the middle on first down wont do that. why else would he acquire two bruising backs?

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      because Drake should be used in 3rd down passing situations, he’s more of a scat back.
      that’s why they got Gore and drafted Ballage, they needed a bread and butter back on the early downs

  34. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I think Gase has been looking for that T.E. threat, he tried to get it with Julius Thomas

  35. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Without any draft day trades to bitch about, this place has become a morgue. Mike, cat get your tongue😉

  36. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    Rob Rang gave us a B+, which was the best in the AFC east and 3rd best overall in the AFC. Only Denver and Cleveland received an A from him.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      I hate to say it but I think the Stej hit a homerun with there draft!
      I think we legged out a double??????????

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Except they had to trade 3 2s to trade up, when they didn’t need to. Darnold the TO machine would’ve been better going to another team, for the jets he’s another butt fumble waiting to happen, on any given play. I said before the draft I didn’t want them to get Darnold, but I’m good with that pick now.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Clev should’ve gotten an F, they easily could’ve made some trades to get future year picks and gotten the same guys they took in the first, especially when teams were getting a randsom for the top 10 picks. What does it mean to have a good draft? The players you took or the value at the spot you drafted? To me it’s the latter, therefore the F.

  37. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Jets hit it out of the park? They got their QB, which they paid for pretty well in draft compensation. After that? Meh. I know were in love with fatty, but that’s just an OK pick. They didn’t get a great TE, Shepherd is a project. What did they hit out of the park?

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      You would’ve thought they had learned the first time around trading up selecting a USC QB, History repeating itself.

  38. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’ve heard a couple people reference Osweiler’s relationship with Gase. I don’t know where that comes from. Osweiler signed with Denver after Gase had been gone a couple of years already. I don’t even think Denver was still running the same offensive system when Osweiler got there.

    PLUS Osweiler sucks, like REALLY bad. Like he throws an Int for every TD bad. I feel that was a mistake and it was compounded by not taking a rookie to groom.

  39. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 30, 2018 at 9:05 am
    If RT goes down for the year we’re not going anywhere anyways,
    ___
    Yeah Steve, that’s what my entire post was saying. That’s why we needed to do better this offseason in securing someone who could take the team somewhere if he did go down.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      And who was that we could’ve gotten for $4M? Certainly not a rookie. You cant replace everyone, they took their shot that RT was going to be healthy and if not Osweiler was good enough. Neither would’ve been good enough without our offseason moves.

  40. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I don’t think any QB in the draft could beat out Osweiller this year.

  41. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I don’t think this FO shares the view of some around here, QB wasn’t a position of need, not to mention if you take a QB early you wont have Minkah, but what you will have is a non contributing player holding a clip board.
    LBer, DB, K, TE,RB, those were our positions of need

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I think its pretty close, but some around here dont seem to understand the guidelines of player acquisitions. This funny little thing called a salary cap, they seem to think we should be able to sign our own for top $, not cut Suh, get 3 more OL, a QB to compete with RT…

  42. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Wyo – If anything, I think the Bills had a great draft, but an awful lot of that hinges on whether Allen ever becomes a good NFL QB. You I loved Edmunds, and I liked Phillips a lot too

  43. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    we have Stills, Parker , amendola, wilson, Gesicki, Tannehill will have some good recs to work with this year also Grant, and owusu who i think looked great last pre season

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      And 3 RBs that can catch. Gase now has his guys. A TE that can catch, 3 RBs that can run, block and catch, a full set of complimenting WRs, and hopefully an OL. If everyone stays healthy we should see the real Gase O.

  44. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    ocalarob says:
    April 30, 2018 at 9:51 am
    I think he realizes he needs to put this team in manageable 2nd and 3rd down situations, having Drake run up the middle on first down wont do that. why else would he acquire two bruising backs?

    Rob, why do you say this?

    Drake averages 5 yards per carry in the first quarter of games.
    He averages 6.8 yards per carry when on our side of the field from 1 yard line to the 20 yard line.

  45. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I want to see in year 3 if Gase under Gase is better

  46. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’m going to get me a #80 Smythe jersey this year. Thank god we finally drafted a real tight end!

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      LMAO – You’re still eating go-gurt cream? Let it go Rock!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I think the SDSU thing was an issue, if you noticed all our early round picks were from big schools. I believe that wasn’t a coincidence, because they want these rookies to contribute this year.

  47. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Gase under Gase better be better in year 3.

  48. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’m glad we drafted that big wide receive too. what was his name again? Ghey-suck-he or something like that?

  49. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Gesicki in no way is the blocker Smythe is, but he can block, he just didn’t care about it in college. I noticed a lot of guys on tape not putting themselves in unnecessary injury positions, meaning not throwing their body on the pile like they do in NFL or just going thru the blocking motions. I would think that would be different in the NFL, because they’ve gotten paid.

  50. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We have all the parts we need to compete, we just have to put it together now. The D is up to par with 21st century offenses, and the O seems to be complete too.

  51. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Look This will be the last time I ever talk good about the stej!
    Starting QB
    2 Starting DT’s
    A starting CB
    a TE that will push for snaps
    A good running back

    4 Starters is a pretty good draft!

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      That’s your opinion Wyo that they got 4 starters. I think you’re overrating Faty and Shepherd, and Nickerson as well for that matter. If all those guys are starting, well it’s just because the Jets suck

  52. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    The Fins got
    2 starters
    2 that will push for snaps
    ST

  53. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 30, 2018 at 10:33 am
    meaning he averaged 6.8 yards per carry on the first play of a drive. That puts you in pretty good D&D
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    Stats are for losers, what did he avg on 1st down with runs under 6 yards?

  54. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    ROCK, Drake breaks off 60 yard scampers then add it to his YPC,
    it is misleading and also supports your agenda.

    Drake is a 3rd down back

  55. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Drake reminds me of Reggies Bush

  56. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 30, 2018 at 10:19 am
    . If everyone stays healthy we should see the real Gase O.
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    I agree, and it also puts gase on the spot,

    i give him this year and next year to produce a winner, otherwise……..

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Why is everyone so quick to jettison Gase?

      I give him as long as it takes. The previous plan that started before he was here was gutted, and he wasn’t afraid (Philbined) to make wholesale changes, what else do you want him to do?

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        I’m not ready to get him out of here, I think he’s moving in the right direction but it’s time to improve the win/loss record, I’m sure his job is safe this year regardless of the outcome however if he has 3 losing seasons in a row i’m sure he’d be gone, that said i like the direction we’re heading in.

  57. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 30, 2018 at 10:12 am
    I think its pretty close, but some around here dont seem to understand the guidelines of player acquisitions. This funny little thing called a salary cap, they seem to think we should be able to sign our own for top $, not cut Suh, get 3 more OL, a QB to compete with RT…
    ___________________________________________________
    exactly, welcome to reality,

  58. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Rob, I do not have an agenda. I just think your criticism of Drake is unfounded. He was AS GOOD or better than Ajayi was on first down. IMO he is a starting quality (top of the league quality) running back. No agenda.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      I think Drake is freak’n Great! I just think we should use him more to his skil-set, not pound him up the middle on 1st down, he’s not a starting tail back.

      we need to get him in space,,, then WATCH OUT!

  59. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    it would seem to me this FO was worried about pass coverage as they addressed it big time in the draft, minkah, baker, the cb are all coverage guys added to our secondary, also anthony was acquired last year, they seem to want to put a blanket on the opponents passing game.

    on offense we got the FA OL, wilson amendola, drafted Rocksicki, got Gore, drafted Ballage.

    and who did we lose? Overpaid SUH and Landry…Fragile Matt Moore…Timmons…whats the other always hurt LBer that assaulted some dude in a bar??

    i think we’ve made huge steps on this team, pardon me for not shedding a tear for those gone

  60. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    ORob,
    Did you just tell Rock that stats were for losers and then immediately ask for more stats? Lol

  61. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 30, 2018 at 11:43 am
    He was AS GOOD or better than Ajayi was on first down
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    I’m not buying that statement, Ajayi is a more forceful RB than Drake, he started making major gains and D’s had to game-plan for him, they may have slowed him up but left other areas open and with a result of 10-6. we were 4-3 when Ajayi left and ended up 6-10, that’s the only stat that matters

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Sigh, Ok, you win. there is no argument that can win this. I can go and show stats but those are for losers. I could go play by play but you use your eyes. You and Lou can just keep on keeping on when it comes to “knowing”

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      A lot of things happened after Ajayi left, including the last 6 games having the best RB ib the NFL. Ajayi did nothing the first 7 games, it was the Ds coattails the team was riding on. He was however very good in 2016 overall, but his big head got in his way in 2017.

  62. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    teams didn’t respect Drake, they played pass D, they were not worried about Drakes big gains because for the most part he could be stuffed on first down putting the team in predictable situations, on the other hand Ajayi could gain the 4 to 6 tough yards putting the team in great down and distance on 2nd and 3rd downs, he also could break off big runs as well, this forced DC’s to game-plan for Ajayi leaving other areas open, they didn’t have to do this with Drake, that’s why we lost.

  63. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 30, 2018 at 12:07 pm
    Sigh, Ok, you win. there is no argument that can win this. I can go and show stats but those are for losers. I could go play by play but you use your eyes.
    ________________________________________________

    Maybe you should just look at the RB additions to this team, Maybe the FO will do a better job of convincing you after acquiring 2 power backs.

    I wonder why they didn’t pursue a scat back if Drakes the bread and butter?? Hmmm???

  64. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 30, 2018 at 12:19 pm
    A lot of things happened after Ajayi left, including the last 6 games having the best RB ib the NFL. Ajayi did nothing the first 7 games, it was the Ds coattails the team was riding on. He was however very good in 2016 overall, but his big head got in his way in 2017.
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    when Ajayi ran more than 20 carries we were undefeated in 2017, when he ran for less we were winless, it’s a fact. this is not a coincidence.

    It’s not about the yards gained, it’s about forcing D’s to add resources to stop Ajayi opening up other facets of our offense

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol, you just contradicted your own statement.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        how’s that?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You said it’s not about the yards, it’s about the D using resources to stop Ajayi, if he isn’t getting any yards why would they use resources to stop him from getting no yards?

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        He was getting the yards! do you remember the back to back 200 yard gains? i think he had 3 games like that in 2016, D’s cant let Ajayi run all over them so they had to game-planned for him to stop him, that left other areas open.
        there’s no contradiction here.
        I get it, you think drake is the best RB in the NFL and i think he’s good also, i just don’t think he should be our bread and butter back, he’s not a starting tail back.
        either Gore or Ballage should be the starter

  65. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Thought after the draft was that Minkah was good at covering TE, but what about TJ? He is 6’3″ after all. And that assignment would go with him playing nickle LB.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      TJ surely is better covering anyone, than what we had at LB last year. We got enough moving parts in the back 7, that Gase and co are going to be busy this offseason putting together the different packages.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Even after watching him….what am not sure of is how good he is in actual coverage. Know he has quick burst react and hits like a tank, but maybe that would be all he needs anyhow if he was at the LB level.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        He’s decent in coverage for a safety, that makes him pretty good as a coverage LB.

  66. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    I’m standing on the edge of the pool dipping my toe in to see if the temperature is equal to the effort put forth in entering it. lol.

  67. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We just had our best draft since 1983 and were talking about Ajayi.

    Gase says he only talks about the players on the roster.

  68. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Ozzie Newsome getting praise for his LAST draft, lol, but he used next years capital.

  69. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    No we’re talking about Drake not being the starting tailback on this team, Ajayi is just an example

  70. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Tight ends caught a league-high 94 passes against the Phins. Opposing QBs completed 70 percent of their passes to TEs. Seems both throwing to and defending against…2018 was the TE draft.

  71. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Rob we’ve got 3 backs that can all carry the load, doesn’t matter to me who starts, who finishes, who gets what yardage. We have a 3-headed tailback that’s going to rush for over 2000 yards.

  72. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Based on all the DEs we have on the roster, maybe William Hayes is going to be more of a sub package DT than DE. Not saying he won’t play any DE, but maybe more as a rush DT.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      They already said he was going to be used in that role.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Just continuing from yesterday about how Branch fits in etc. We used Hayes in that role a bit last year too. Just suggesting maybe even more this year. We might see more 4 man fronts featuring all DEs too.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’d like to see the 4 man DE front and the 5 man LB front.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      However they do it…on passing down think we will have 3 DEs out there at times, even if cause we have a five man line.

  73. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    ocalarob says:
    April 30, 2018 at 12:17 pm
    ……..I wonder why they didn’t pursue a scat back if Drakes the bread and butter?? Hmmm???…

    You are mixing apples with oranges. I can turn this argument around and say that the front office thinks that Godshow and Phillips are as good as Suh. I mean they didn’t pursue a top DT in the draft either so the projection of what I think they think must be right because of the evidence?

  74. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    either Gore or Ballage should be the starter

    Only if you think our 2nd and 3rd best RB’s should be the starter….

    BTW the big bruiser RB’s in this league are not the starters. they are the short yardage / specialty package guys.

  75. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    with the drafting of Ballage, Gore’s teacher to student ration just doubled. 😉

  76. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    stangerx says:
    April 30, 2018 at 1:20 pm
    Bet you right now that Smythe gets more starts than Gaesicki.

    Not just more starts, but more snaps too, I am willing to bet. You play the guy that can block you use the big receiver on your gimmick plays 😉 Note the winky eye! this was said in jest. and to stir Mike E’s pot.

  77. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    When the draft started I was worried about 7 things.
    Now I’m only worried about 3.
    Of those 3 (QB, OL, DT) I’m least worried about DT, moderately worried about QB cuz Tanny has had significant time to heal, and most worried about OL as we are one injury away from cluster*f there.
    However, TE and covering the TE seem to have fixed our biggest gaping hole from last year. Let’s hope for healthy guys until the next draft. 🙂

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      You cant fix everything, to win the SB things have to align, if the things we’ve fixed work, we have enough to compete for a title.

  78. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We’re going to be running the ball and passing it with either TE in the game, and with both in. No way are we going to dictate the play by personnel.

    Both sides of the ball is going to see lots of interchangeable parts.

  79. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Gesicki is like Goedert, but with the ability to separate and contest jump balls.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      And a vertical over 40″ who is going to be in his air space? No one.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      4th and goal from the cheats 5. AFC Championship game on the line, here comes Gronk in to try to stop Gesicki. Gesicki TD, Gronk hangs his head and walks off the field and sits down next to Brady.

  80. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Weaknesses
    Built more like a high-jumper than a tight end
    Long and lanky with a stride length that limits quickness in and out of breaks
    Will struggle to shake coverage on short routes near the line of scrimmage
    Play strength is below average
    Needs to prove he can handle physical jams and route redirection
    Can be slow to get head around and find the ball
    Passive approach as blocker puts run plays in immediate peril
    Hand usage is poor in run game
    Rarely sustains blocks against legitimate edge talent

  81. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Weaknesses
    Moves with somewhat restricted stride length.
    Is not a route salesman. Gives route intention away with early directional leans into breaks.
    Rarely relies on leverage and head fakes to create his separation.
    Looked bigger on tape in 2017 and quickness appeared to suffer somewhat.
    Would benefit from varying route speeds.
    Too eager to try for one-handed spear attempts rather than two handed snares at times.
    Agility with ball in his hands is average by NFL standards.
    Effort level as blocker can be inconsistent. Needs to get better hip roll into initial contact.
    May need a fire lit under him in order to handle in-line blocking duties as a pro.

  82. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Starting TE:

    Strengths
    Has good size and should continue to grow into his frame
    Has a finisher’s demeanor as a blocker
    Plays like an offensive lineman
    Technically sound blocker
    Hand placement is accurate and he unlocks his hips into opponent
    Runs his feet on down blocks until the block is secured
    Understands his landmarks and takes proper angles
    Excellent timing and radar when working up to linebacker on combos
    Plus blocker for the position in-line and on the move
    Trustworthy in pass protection
    Was able to work the seam and lay out to make the catch
    Unfazed by hitters in the middle of the field
    Weaknesses
    Straight-line mover who struggles to adjust his release when defenders are looking to lean on him
    Initial speed into patterns is average
    Routes are very readable for safeties and linebackers
    Comes out of his turns without much burst
    Separation could be a challenge against man coverage

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Let Smythe start, and bring in Gesicki when you need a big catch, no reason to wear out your stars will minuscule tasks.

  83. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I don’t know why some of you keep discussing this Eagles player, whatever his name is…I can’t remember.

  84. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    #80 Go Smythe!

  85. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    In goal line formations who do you put in? The guys who can block and / or catch or the one trick pony that will struggle to shake coverage on short routes near the line of scrimmage, has play strength that is below average, can’t handle physical jams and route redirection at the line of scrimmage, Can be slow to get head around and find the ball and who’s passive approach as blocker puts run plays in immediate peril

  86. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Plus I hear he is from New Jersey which cannot be good for anything.

  87. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    YOUR TEAM
    MIAMI DOLPHINS
    YOUR PICKS
    1: R1P8 QB JARRETT STIDHAM AUBURN
    2: R2P8 G BEN BREDESON MICHIGAN
    3: R3P8 C DALTON RISNER KANSAS STATE
    4: R4P8 RB MYLES GASKIN WASHINGTON
    5: R5P8 LB BEN HUMPHREYS DUKE
    6: R6P8 CB ISAIAH LANGLEY USC
    7: R7P8 DL JAY HAYES GEORGIA

  88. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    And a big F.U. to Fanspeak for assuming we will be picking at #8 next year!

  89. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Gesicki 6’6″
    Smythe 6’5″
    Parker 6’3″

    Hope Tanny has been working on his redzone high loft TD stuff.

  90. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  91. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Jimmy Graham at combine
    6’6″
    260 lbs
    35″ arm length
    10 5/8 hands
    4.56 40
    38.5 vert
    122″ broad

  92. D's avatar D says:

    Rock just give up man, learn from my mistake

  93. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The Madden comment was because they always downgrade our players no matter how good they are in real life.

  94. D's avatar D says:

    I think Smythe is a better receiver than given credit for. Look at what he had for QB it’s hard to have shown how good could be with those opportunities. The little bit I saw in his film where you got to really see his routes and receiving ability he looked solid to me. I don’t think he is going to be a really huge stat guy but I think we are going to be surprised what we get out of him

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Agreed. He’ll give us those standard TE routes like those short out routes about 5 yards deep and then try to turn up field to get as many yards as possible, and the medium in routes for 10 yards or so.

      Watching his combine performance, he’s not just this lead footed big TE, he ran well and looked fluid in drills. Caught the ball well too.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      With all the receiving weapons, he won’t see many thrown his way, but we should see the occasional slip out for 8 yards, and around the goal line he should have his chances. Just catch them when thrown to, he doesn’t need a lot of catches.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Guys like him get ignored throughout a game and like you said slip out from time to time for an easy catch and decent gain. He’ll probably only be a 1-2 catch per game guy.

  95. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Madden Ratings:
    Suh before he came to dolphins 96
    Suh after coming to Dolphins 84

  96. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “I wanna play til my mid-40s”
    — Tom Brady (no word on whether or not Gisele agrees)

  97. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    “I want him in a wheelchair in his mid-40’s”
    – Rockphin on Tom Brady (doesn’t care what Gisele thinks)

  98. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    He’ll probably only be a 1-2 catch per game guy.

    But will probably end the season with 5 TD’s

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