At the moment of this writing, the Dolphins have 6 tight ends on the roster, but realistically, at most we will carry 4, and even more likely 3. The two guaranteed to stick are the most recent draftees, 2nd RD pick Mike Gesicki and 4th RD pick Durham Smythe. After Gesicki and Smythe, the coaches seem to really like A.J. Derby who was picked up last season after DEN waived him. There is also 5 YR veteran MarQueis Gray, and recent pickup Gavin Escobar who played for the Cowboys for 4 seasons. Also still hanging around is Thomas Duarte, Dolphins 2016 7th RD draft pick. We have better depth at TE than any time in recent memory, and this should be a fun battle to see play out because the 3rd and possibly 4th spots should be really competitive.
Mike Gesicki TE – 6’6″ 250
2018 2nd RD pick, Gesicki is the kind of athletic receiving threat many fans have been craving for more than a decade. 4.54 speed, 41.5″ vertical, 6.76 3 cone, this guy is a fast, agile, explosive athlete. He will be in a tough battle for playing time with his fellow draftee Durham Smythe, because what Gesicki lacks in blocking skills, Smythe has in spades. Gesicki has made it clear he is willing to block and learn how to, and wants to become a more rounded NFL TE.
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Durham Smythe TE – 6’5″ 253
2018 4th RD pick, Smythe was a big part of the success of the run game at Notre Dame. Known for his excellent blocking, toughness and tenacity, he truly helped propel the Irish’s running game. Seldom used as a receiver, just 28 receptions and 244 yards and 6 TD’s in 4 seasons, he definitely has value as a receiver too. Smythe’s blocking skills should enable him playing time as an inline TE and also as a 2nd TE.
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A.J. Derby TE – 6’4″ 255
Derby is a former 6th RD pick of the New England Patriots who was eventually cut by NE and picked up by the Denver Broncos. In 2016 Derby caught 16 passes for 160 yards with the Broncos. Derby played only one season at TE for Arkansas, so he came into the NFL pretty inexperienced. He has good speed, running the 40 in 4.67 at his pro day. In DEN in 2017, Derby caught 19 passes for 228 yards and 2 TD’s. For the Dolphins, Derby appeared in 9 games, catching 2 passes for 20 yards. Not a huge body of work for the soon to be 27 year old TE, either in college or the pros, but the coaches here see potential, although he will have to realize some of that potential in TC and preseason games to stick here.
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MarQeuis Gray TE – 6’4″ 263
Gray has spent the last 2 seasons here in Miami, but has played for Cleveland, Tampa, Buffalo and Minnesota. In 2014, Gray made his NFL tour having a cup of coffee with the Bucs, Vikes and finally settling in with the Bills. The Dolphins picked him up in 2016 and has played appeared in all 32 games, with 7 starts. As a Dolphin, Gray has 15 receptions for 184 yards. Gray has lined up as a 2nd TE and also H-back/FB, and has shown decent blocking ability.
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Gavin Escobar TE – 6’6″ 260
Escobar played 5 seasons for the Cowboys and although he didn’t get a ton of opportunities, he certainly made the most of them. Escobar caught a total of 30 passes for 333 yards and 8 TD’s. Not a blocker, he’s definitely a receiving TE. Escobar has long arms and big hands, and despite the fact he doesn’t have good speed, he has good reliable hands and with 8 TD’s in only 30 receptions, he makes them count. I think Escobar and Derby are will be in a tight competition to claim what may be the last 1 or 2 posts on the roster at TE.
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Thomas Duarte TE – 6’2″ 244
Duarte has spent the last 2 seasons on the PS after being drafted in the 7th RD of the 2016 NFL draft by the Dolphins. Duarte was a WR at UCLA who has bulked up with the hopes of being a move TE in the NFL. Not a blocker, but a smooth, athletic route runner who really came on his senior season at UCLA, catching 53 passes for 872 yards and 10 TD’s. The Dolphins like Duarte, they have kept him around for 2 seasons on the PS, and I think his best bet to remain with the team would most likely be in that capacity again. He will have a hard time beating out veterans Escobar and Derby, but a very strong showing could give him an outside shot.
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I saw what you did there Mike, didn’t want to continue that debate.
say’s the guy who started the debate
This is your debate, you have this whacked idea that Ajayi was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and running the ball 25 times per game = winning.
I can’t believe it took Mike so long to write about the TEs
Right?
We’re keeping the 2 rooks and at least 2 other TEs.
Maybe, it all depends on how many players we keep at other positions. If we keep 6 WR’s and 5 RB’s,9 on the O-line, 3 QB’s, it may make it tough to keep 4 TE’s.
Mike, when are you going to do the running back Camp Battle?? Can’t wait, did I mention Drake sucks as an every down back?
Probably next week. I don’t think you put it quite like that, but I know you don’t think he’s an every down back.
JBB
nice article Mike, i would think Gray makes the team, he’s to valuable in short yardage as a FB, so we may indeed carry 4
Not sure Rob – I’m sure Smythe could handle that role, so he has to be more than just that IMO
Oh, thanks!
Sitton gets some days off. Not sure about Duarte but Carroo and Lucas are injured. Carroo coming off of minor knee surgery.
Take that Jarvis Landry! lol
Nice write up Mike E
Mike Gesicki TE – 6’6″ 250
Gavin Escobar TE – 6’6″ 260
MarQeuis Gray TE – 6’4″ 263
Durham Smythe TE – 6’5″ 253 to the Practice Squad
WOW! You think Escobar and Gray make it over Smythe? I don’t see that happening Wyo, they would lose him quickly, he’d get poached.
I think the only way Escobar makes it is if we keep 4 TE’s
Thanks Wyo
Gonna be good camp battles this summer. Let the competition begin!
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Then there was a standoff, police had seen a dead child in the apt so the rushed in and found all 4 kids dead and also the gunman. cop is in critical condition.
Horrible
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Tragic and sad.
Good write up, Mike.
Let the competition begin but I think it will be Gesicki, Smythe, Gray and Derby.
Thanks – So you think we keep 4. I can see that, and I can see the 4 you chose too. Still, it should be interesting to see how things play out
The coaches seem to like Derby, Gray plays an important role and is a core STs player, and Gesicki and Smythe were drafted. Just my hunch.
I like Gray & even Derby
Escobar surely would have started if not for HOF Witten,
As well as in KC if not for eventual HOF (health withstanding) Kelce
So Yea that #3 spots gonna be quite the competition!!!!
Kinda hoping we keep 4, but there are much better players at other positions at the bottom of the roster than the likely (in whatever order coach has’Em) in the 4, 5, 6 TE’S !!!
GOFINS!!!
GOODSTUFFFF MikeE!!!
Thanks KV, should be fun to watch
Escobar has a chance, but he never really got going in 5 years in the league. We’ll see.
We don’t (YET) have a Witten or Kelce,
So Yea, “””we’ll see”””
The selling point for me when we first signed him
Was in what Mike mentioned, 8TD’s with just 30 receptions, dude definitely made the most of the few opportunities he got behind HOF’ers!!!
Did he even play with the Chiefs? He has no stat line with them.
Escobar KC Chief makes leaping catch
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000838211/Gavin-Escobar-makes-leaping-grab-bobbles-ball-for-TD
MIke E — Great write as always, but gotta admit that the TE piece before the draft was what I was most interested in, but not so much now. We got a super TE in two parts. And only real Q is how much each plays and how.
Not sure exactly who sticks out of the others, but you don’t really need a back-up at TE for Gesicki. Know we don’t have scheme yet, but my guess is that Smythe can take his place in some and our slot guys in others.
Thanks Stanger – Not sure what you mean by you don’t need a backup for Gesicki.
Bo Duke going to jail for unpaid child support today…. guess Boss Hogg finally figured out how to catch him.
Maybe he’s the guy who bought Rob’s Chevelle.
I don’t see much use for WR #6, unless Carroo does something we haven’t seen yet. We can always keep one of the others on the PS.
TE4 Will be more important than WR6.
Can do both.
I’d agree Steve
Though I kinda feel like we need a 6th WR in the image of Parker length etc…
If we were to keep 4 TE’s instead of a 6th with Parker type size plus??
Perhaps Gesicki could aid in giving Parker a breather ,
(or for in the case of the unmentionable)???
GOFINS!!!
Historic stuff going on in Singapore.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t be, it’s Trump! lol
Mike, this is the sort of thing that should be applauded by all yet watch some libtards do their best to make fools of themselves. It’s coming. LOL
Gase on Mike Gesicki said??? WTF is that?!!
He always has strange typos. LOL
INDEED! LOL
13kv, that must have been a PS game. Escobar’s career stats don’t even mention the Chiefs.
Was with KC & Baltimore that year…
So probably didn’t get many opps as a new face to a new scheme for two different teams in the same year..
Baltimore had a pretty good TE starting too…
Not saying he’s the man,
But like you, “”we’ll see”””
Yes that catch was a PS game…
He was only on the Cowboys and Ravens active rosters, he was on the PS for the Browns and the Chiefs.
Mike E. says:
Thanks Stanger – Not sure what you mean by you don’t need a backup for Gesicki.
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Last thing I would wish for, but if Gesicki goes down think one of the wideouts can take his role, even if in a different way. But part of that is think he is one big ‘ol fantastic slot receiver. And my guess is he will be split out. So if he’s not hitting routes thinking Wilson, Grant or Amendola will be rather than one of the other TEs.
Ah, I gotcha. I think Derby might have some receiving skills, and Escobar too. But yeah, neither of them could replace the potential of Super Mike. lol
Tim – No question about it (Trump and Libs) It’s already out there. He could cure cancer and they would find an angle to make him look bad
Yep and that’s the problem with American politics. Good is good regardless of which party or president accomplishes something. The tribe mentality where you can’t tip your hat to the other side is an asshole mentality. LOL
I think it’s politics in general – Nature of the beast
I think you can pencil Smythe, Gesicki and Derby in. I think there will be 4 and the last spot for me is really up for grabs though im leaning more towards Gavin Escobar over Gray, though i would really prefer having Gray back because i think he is very reliable and the roles we have asked him to play, he has done a good job at.
Gray is also a core STs guy. The reason I think he’ll make it also because he plays H-back/FB and can be used as a short yardage back.
Id prefer that but didnt we trade a conditional late round pick for Escobar? I cant remember exactly how we got him.
No we picked him up as a FA.
And my Twitter just BLEW up because Luck threw a football!
Tim Knight says:
June 12, 2018 at 12:57 pm
13kv, that must have been a PS game. Escobar’s career stats don’t even mention the Chiefs.
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13kvFINS says:
June 12, 2018 at 1:07 pm
Was with KC & Baltimore that year…
So probably didn’t get many opps as a new face to a new scheme for two different teams in the same year..
Baltimore had a pretty good TE starting too…
Not saying he’s the man,
But like you, “”we’ll see”””
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D says:
June 12, 2018 at 1:59 pm
He was only on the Cowboys and Ravens active rosters, he was on the PS for the Browns and the Chiefs.
D – I thought Escobar was released and we picked him up as an UFA.
You are probably right, i actually cant remember how we got him.
As a FA then i give Gray a slight advantage over him to stick on the team, but i also dont know if he isnt the type of TE they are looking for more so than the HB/FB/TE kind of hybrid that Gray is. Thats going to be an interesting camp battle for sure.
After the Browns released him.
The idea of having a superstar at a position puts you in a position to really lean on that play to help carry a unit or possibly even the entire O or D. This rotaional unit of players all of which are pretty solid DL is another strategy to solving the DT unit problem. It will be interesting if having a group of solid but not exceptional guy and keeping them fresh will work out better than building around a superstar. I think the unit has a better vibe to it with all these guys seemingly feeling like they are contributors and not just the guy along side Suh,
I’m hoping it works. I like the concept, now the guys just have to go out there and make it work
They all seem to be digging that approach. Play fast and go get ball. Like Spence said, like how they switch lines in hockey.
Tim Knight says:
June 12, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Yep and that’s the problem with American politics. Good is good regardless of which party or president accomplishes something. The tribe mentality where you can’t tip your hat to the other side is an asshole mentality. LOL
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Majority of the problems we are having politically and socially are this kind of problem, its us vs them mentality and it causes divisiveness and creates obstacles to resolutions.
Right, that’s why not much gets done or it takes forever. My friends and I refer to it as tribalism as opposed to independent thinking.
Tim Knight says:
June 12, 2018 at 2:16 pm
They all seem to be digging that approach. Play fast and go get ball. Like Spence said, like how they switch lines in hockey.
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The only problems i see with it is uptempo no uddle, where they cannot switch the lines out. Regardless of them planning on rotating the lines, they need to prepare like they wont be able to.
Yeah, the no uddle offense is a killer to defend. 😉
That’s always an issue but very few teams actually do that a lot. Especially if they’re not executing. If we’re stopping them they need to regroup. I also think the rotation might be based more on each set of downs. There is always enough stoppage in football to sub guys in and out. Offenses sub guys in and out too.
One of the DL can’t remember who said they’re training to be conditioned to get on and off the field.
They better
I think this debate about cant switch out guys for the no huddle could be solved easily by taking an encroachment penalty on 2nd and short. Theyve got you on the ropes, you cant stop them, just take the penalty and make player changes.
I’m not sure, but you might not be able to do that. Like in hockey if you ice the puck you can’t change lines.
Could be that they could do that. Ive seen teams take a penalty, when the penalty actually helped them, like get a better angle on a FG or something. Its done a lot to get a few more yards for a punt.
You can
But again, there is enough stoppage in football that I don’t think it’s a big deal. It’s only an issue if an offense is really moving the ball on you and you can’t stop anything. Well that’s on that group of defenders and props to the offense.
That’s when Tim, during hurry up.
I can see it now our opponent has the ball on their own 10 a guy runs around the end and breaks free, an LB behind the play steps off the field, while a CB steps on 50 yards away and makes a tackle. The monkey see monkey do league starts making hockey changes frequently.
Tim Knight says:
June 12, 2018 at 2:40 pm
I’m not sure, but you might not be able to do that. Like in hockey if you ice the puck you can’t change lines.
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The defense can only substitute if the offense does.
My bad, the defense is allowed to substitute if the offense does is the way it should read. So if they are in hurry up and they arent subbing we would have a hard time changing the lines without creating a penalty like Steve was saying. However if they sub in they cant run up to the line so we would get a change to rotate someone in, outside of the 2 minute drill where they can run up to the line even after subbing in
Where did you get that from?
It was to Amendola. Adam corrected it.
Steve, yeah if a team has you on your heels and they’re running the hurry up. It happens at times but it’s not really that prominent. As we know there are a lot of stoppages in this game.
You’re right though about being able to switch out on a penalty. When Godchaux had his 2nd encroachment in one game, the coaches took him off the field.
The Cheats do it too us all the time, but I don’t remember it happening much from the rest of the league.
That’s what I mean, only the really good offenses who are executing at a high level pull it off anyway. If a team runs on 1st and gets stuffed, then on 2nd it’s incomplete, they’re not going to run a hurry up because they’ve got their own issues. So now in comes the the 3rd and 10 defense.
steveccnv says:
June 12, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Where did you get that from?
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The internets….
“With the exception of the last two minutes of either half, the offensive team, while in the process of substitution or simulated substitution, is prohibited from rushing quickly to the line and snapping the ball with the obvious attempt to cause a defensive foul; i.e., too many men on the field. “
I meant where did you find the part on the D not being able to sub. I saw later ir was a mistake. You added a post, before I could get mine out.
Think about all the stoppages in the game that allows for substitutions – penalties, injuries, called or commercial timeouts, new set of downs (ball placement), reset the clock, video review, guys not getting up off a player quick enough. Very rarely does a team hurry up another team all day long.
No one is talking about all day long, just on occasion.
I said that because every time we talk about substitutions the hurry up gets mentioned as a way to stop it. All teams substitute all day long every week, not like this is some new thing we just came up with. When I watch football, the hurry up is rare and that was my initial post that it’s not a big deal. Even teams who go no huddle don’t snap the ball within 10 seconds. There is still a communication period to get set up, they just don’t huddle to do it.
They don’t have to hurry up, going no huddle prevents substitution, you can take as long as you like, any attempt at subbing the D will be caught with too many men on the field, that 5 yard penalty is crucial, instead of 1st and 10 it’s now 1st and 5, playbook is wide open
It is a big deal, because we’re trying to beat the cheats and everytime we get the upper hand on them they seem to go hurry up.
One thing not mentioned is the fact that when we’re rotating guys they’ll be fresher and able to handle it better.
Who is the defensive player change?
Walt Aikens is working strictly at safety now. Being that he’s a core STs guy, he’ll be the game day 4th safety.
I thought it was going to be someone that can actually contribute on D.
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We talk all the time about how the refs kill the flow of the game yet we worry about not being able to rotate guys in and out. LOL
Steve, as you just said, the whole idea is to have guys play less snaps so they’re not on the field all day and they stay fresh. No hurry up offense is going to force a few players to play 65 or more snaps because we couldn’t get anyone else in there. It’s not like we’re subbing every down. LOL
HOMERAIDE! Get your ice cold Homeraide Heeeeeaarrah!
One of the big benefits of running a no huddle offense has to do with the DL, those guys get tired quick due to their size, it slows down the pass rush due to fatigue by making those DL stay on the field
That could happen on a particular drive, but if you utilize all your DL throughout the game they all play 30-35 snaps and nobody plays 45+. That’s the idea, it’s not about subbing every down. These guys are conditioned to handle playing consecutive snaps during a possession.
Also there seems to be this thought that we’ll never get a stop or a sack that slows down the pace. There will be plenty of opportunities to sub guys in and out.
You’re missing the point someone was trying to make above. All they were saying was we could get stuck in a hurry up with the wrong guys in the game. It was just one instance, not that there was going to be games we couldnt sub.
Also there seems to be this thought that we’ll never get a stop or a sack that slows down the pace. That was your assumption no one said anything close to that.
pheloniusphish says:
June 11, 2018 at 5:58 pm
If you can’t eat the cheese, why be a fan?
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*SNAP* goes the rat trap!
Nope I’m good
That’s a matter of opinion
Let them run hurry up. Nothing like a quick 3 and out!
I like your thinking there ER
That’s a matter of opinion
Scratch that comment it was meant above^
Steve, the whole hurry up, no huddle thing gets talked about too much is all I’m saying. It’s also not just a thing for us, any team can get caught in that. The rotation isn’t even really about that. It’s not about a group getting stuck on the field for 7-8 straight plays or whatever, it’s about total snaps for the game.
Yes that was my assumption, but when people talk about getting caught with tired personnel, it comes with the assumption that every play the offense runs is executed. It doesn’t usually work that way either.
You get on a ten play drive in a hurry up those 300 lbs dl will get gassed,
worse case scenario you burn a T.O.
Yes it happens. How often do you think it’s the case? I don’t see it happening all that often watching games. By the way that’s what we’re looking to do. No huddle and get the play going as fast as possible. It still may take 20 seconds to get everything setup.
Teams predetermine get that guy or that guy off the field after the next play and there are ways of doing that. 😉
Another athlete injured throwing a hissy fit . . .
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-likely-to-lose-reliever-carson-smith-to-surgery-after-he-popped-his-shoulder-out-of-place-smashing-his-glove/
It’s funny to me, the reporters who attend these OTAs having been doing it for years but still report it as if it was a game we couldn’t see. It’s “practice” in shorts no pads, fundamentals, techniques, getting in football shape. Anyone who ever practices anything knows it’s a time for mistakes and study. Get your physical and mental going. But every year they report it like it’s a game. Then tell us before TC let’s see when the pads go on, and then the PS. Yeah no shit Sherlock! That’s what decides most of the cuts down to the 53.
There is a reason everyone uses the word process. Because it is a process.
Even in camp they have no idea what they are working on to an extent.
Then try to calm down our excitement or concerns that they created. How many times do coaches and players have to give the same answers year after year? LOL
ocalarob says:
June 12, 2018 at 8:16 pm (Edit)
You get on a ten play drive in a hurry up those 300 lbs dl will get gassed,
worse case scenario you burn a T.O.
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What Ti said above is the key. I don’t think anyone is disputing that if team executes the no huddle perfectly, and run a 10 play drive and score, our guys will be gassed. The difference is this year we will rotate guys in the rest of the game more often, whereas last year and previous years, Suh, and a few others played through exhaustion. That won’t happen this season, at least if they stick their edict
What Tim said
It cant happen. It doesnt work
Thanks! If say Phillips and Taylor got caught on a 10 play super hurry up drive, they likely won’t be on the field the next series. But as I’ve been saying, there are so many opportunities in the game to sub guys in and out. My basic point is it’s overstated as a concern. Let’s hope we execute it because that is our plan on offense ironically enough. LOL
Mike E’s dream article has finally been written
Hey, Ken! Good to see ya, being I’ve not seen ya on here very often recently. How are ya doing, man?
Hi M13. I have gone back to work so I am super busy trying to catch up after being out for 13 weeks. Otherwise I am feeling pretty good. It was a rough few months but I am definitely doing better now
Good to hear! Wishing you the best, Ken.
GRAND!!! You’re in my prayers, nightly, my friend! Really happy to hear that you’re back to your job, at least!
Farty for Duarte!!!
ocalarob says:
June 12, 2018 at 7:47 am
you should try a positive post, something that requires thought instead of these lame trollish responses
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Thoughtful posts are wasted on you, Sweetpea.
Gray gives you some really nice versatility. I won’t be surprised if he finds a way onto the team. The ST snaps he gives you is a real nice plus. You can almost think of him as two guys so that’s always a big plus on game day.
*SNAP* goes the rat trap!
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M – Someone said the other day in response to OD’s “show me” line, that they to were in “show me” mode, but they preferred to be there optimistically, rather than be down on everything the teams does. That’s how I approach it as well. Until they “show me” they messed up, I’m going to assume they will do well.
I could see them keeping 4 TE and only five WR. Inould think the 4nwould be Gray for the reasons Randy lists above, Derby because they seem to like him, and the two rookies because they drafted them. That leaves Escobar the odd man out. Maybe they could trade him to San Diego or Dallas.
Phish,
As a fan, I begin every season with hopes for a super bowl win but….to go along with the golf stuff around here lately…..I think I’m gonna make every putt I look at….and then I swing the putter. Lol
😀
I hear ya, Randy!
pheloniusphish says:
June 12, 2018 at 10:07 pm
*SNAP* goes the rat trap!
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M – Someone said the other day in response to OD’s “show me” line, that they to were in “show me” mode, but they preferred to be there optimistically, rather than be down on everything the teams does. That’s how I approach it as well. Until they “show me” they messed up, I’m going to assume they will do well.
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All good, Phelon. I was merely making reference to Parcells’ way of doing things: DON’T EAT THE CHEESE!
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with optimism! 🙂
Cheese good, Parcells bad!
LOL, I’m WITH that! 🙂
Randy – I hear you. I start each season believing they’ll go 19-0. Then when they lose, I think 18-1. I don’t start thinking they suck until the 8th loss.
Every year is our year!
LOL, the life of a sports fan. 🙂
Music is quite different. The only failure is in the eye of the beholder. There is no final score.
TRUTH!!!
That is, if John Williams didn’t strike up a PHENOMENAL final “score”… 🙂
Gotta say as much as Spielberg relied on Williams for music, his scores got mundane. It’s the same movements over and over. Part of the Hollywood template. Not a fan. But good for them.
Lol Tim, I just read this post, without reading above, so I didn’t know the context, so this being, you know a football board, when I read Spielberg I was thinking Rick Speilman.
One of the original posters, JJsnakeoil, from the SS used to call him Spielberg, which I’ve used here a few times…
Ken – Very pleased to hear you’re doing better, that’s just great news! Now back to work is a different story. lol It’s nice to get back to regular life though I’m sure, even if it includes work. Very happy for you Ken
Yeah, great news Ken.
I agree with Randy’s assessment on Gray, with his versatility, I think he sticks. 2 rooks are in for sure, the wildcard is Escobar, if they feel it’s more important to have a guy that can catch TDs in the red zone, then either Gray or Derby won’t make it. It would be really hard for me to cut Gray though, because of all the things he does, including STs. It would be like cutting Dramond Green.
Ken says:
June 12, 2018 at 10:02 pm
Hi M13. I have gone back to work so I am super busy trying to catch up after being out for 13 weeks. Otherwise I am feeling pretty good. It was a rough few months but I am definitely doing better now
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Great news Ken, see you at the fest
Ballage seems to be looking great, this guy has wheels is big, this offense may end up being the Ballge Barrage!
Not the beginning of the year, but come the middle part of the season we may start to see what he’s all about. No reason he can’t be as good as he wants to be. Terrific draft pick.
One guy gets banged up or isn’t getting it done on a given day, you go to the next guy, without any dropoff in talent.
That’s what I like about this team, depth a plenty. Keep em fresh for winning time.
Rob – I like Ballage a lot. He’s going to be a great receiver out of the backfield. Said it before, but he’s a lot like David Johnson
Ken,
Really glad to hear you are feeling better. That’s Awesome !!
Update on the Neighbor issue;
There is an HOA meeting the first Monday of every month, it just so happens i showed for this meeting (first time), and you’ll never guess who was there??
that’s right, the morons next door!
after discussing the finances of the community i brought up the parking situation, I showed pics of how close they park in their yard right next to my property line, said they were encroaching my property as they have to step on my property to get out of their cars, i also showed the pic of how they drove right across my lawn.
the whole meeting gasped! the woman was trying to un-fuse the situation by telling everyone she baked me a ham when i moved in, I told her I had no idea she was doing that and next time hold the ham and stay off my property. the one guy next to me blurted out, “i’d flatten their tires” and they were sitting right behind us. I asked the president what would happened if someone pulled up there getting out of their car on my property and tripped over my clean-out and broke their ankle? the woman sitting right next to them said that i would get sued, i turned to her and said “thank you”.
I know it was very embarrassing for them, the whole crowd even the president was looking bewildered at them!
the husband said, “well where are we suppose to park” one of the HOA staff said you have a 2 car garage and a driveway that holds 4 cars, that’s 6 cars! what they don’t know is he keeps his lawn trailer in his Garage.
The end result is they promised not to park there anymore.
I usually play golf from 5 to 8pm, the meeting starting at 7pm i had to leave early and was wondering if it was worth it, looking back it was well worth it!
My first move would have been to write a letter…. but a public shaming has a lot more oomph to it. Sounds like you are set for now though. You sure you can’t just put down some railroad ties as a border?
I try to avoid tripping hazards in my front yard
Up to you….but so long as what you put up is within your HOA rules and visually apparent there is not a legal problem on that front at least. It is your property….the liability rules are much more strict in that case. No one can sue for personal injury over climbing a fence.
That’s great to hear Rob. I like to hear stories of the bully put in their place. Being there and seeing the embarrassment must’ve been priceless.
It was, also seeing the residents response was great as well, they were all dumbfounded by their actions.
KEN!! I’m so happy to hear you are back at work and that life is returning to a semblance of normalcy!! Fantastic! I am tickled to hear this.
THill will say “”NADDA”””!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937044/article/landry-i-didnt-have-good-relationship-with-tannehill
GO THILL,
GOFINS!!!
Landry did some good things for us, but his dancing around after making a play, getting flagged for it and his thug ball were wearing thin. I’m glad we didn’t pay him.
Better by subtraction, even if we struggle to start the season.
Ignore Landry. That ship has sailed. Gone. He’s a Brown
And never to be seen again….
We’ll see him next year. Jones and TJ will show him to run his mouth.
Jus an ammo update on why “””HE GONE”””!!!
Like Steve, I believe “””addition by subtraction”””
Better without, and I personally have zero concern about plenty effecient production/higher average from the slot!!!
GOFINS!!!
Landry sucks, bring him on… my worry is we don’t see Ajayi again…YIKES!!!
Another form of addition by…
Seriously though, Gase wants his RBs to be interchangeable, and be dual threats. I’m not going to get into our previous RBs traits, all I know is the 3 we have now fit what he wants.
Tannehill has pocket awareness problems, holds the ball too long, which the OL get’s most of the blame for that, he’s 39-41 a losing record.
Regardless of what anyone says he’s not even mediocre,
maybe there are other factors like revolving door coaches,
I sure hope he improves this year
SMH & LOL @ U
have you been drinking your Kool-aide again? don’t get high on your own supply.
on the other hand when he went down in 2016 that was a crushing blow to this team… maybe because all we had was Moore
Or he’s better than you thought.
Let’s see where Tannehill is at this point in his career. The past doesn’t matter anymore. It doesn’t matter for anyone who’s been on this team for however long. Now and this season is all that matters.
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the past is all we have to go by to try to evaluate the future, the remarks Landry made in reference to Tannehill should be concerning.
the QB position is the most important, the teams success rest on his shoulders.
He played well in 2016 prior to his injury, his best season to date.
maybe having Gase makes a difference in him, we may have done better than 10-6 had he not gotten injured.
What Landry says means nothing as douche as it was. He’s the one displaying sour grapes.
The temptation to throw to 4.8 40 WRs is now gone, addition by subtraction. Watched highlights of #14, then watched some for Wilson. Result was i like Wilson.
If I recall correctly,
I think I remember
Him having a long distance TD (called back) vs Miami last year…
I know he’s a scary cover!!!
He played HS QB where I live,
A rival LB and good friend of his is the son my neighbor of 20 years!!!
Watched his three boys & friends workout, running 40’s practically everyday of their lives… I’d imagine that Wilson was part of that at times…
Asked neighbor what they thought of PSL Wilson as a Dolphin..
They said he has-been our friend since we were kids, &
“””He’s gonna shred for the Dolphins, we won’t miss uknowho””””
Dad loves the kid tooo, does it right!!!
Gonna invite me over when he visits, CANT WAIT
To Welcome him to The Dolphins!!!
GOFINS!!!
Rob – Really? You’re concerned because of what Landry is saying? One thing I’ve learned is, both your boy Ajayi and Landry are in the same class. LOW
I’m not concerned, it’s obvious both Ajayi and Landry have gripes because they were both shipped out, but both guys are in good situations, Ajayi was on a SB team, and Landry got paid, so now they should both STFU about Miami, and concentrate on doing their jobs for their respective teams!
i wouldn’t call it concern over Landry’s comments, but the totality of Tannehills time in Miami does not have me convinced.
Maybe he will break the top ten in QB rating, something we will need if we have any plans on contending, maybe he will make the pro-bowl.
he hasn’t done it yet though.
it would seem gase is good with him.
and then there’s the knee, i sure hope it holds.
The one thing i can say is that when he went down he was sorely missed.
I can agree with that. There is no definite evidence during Tannehill’s tenure here that he is a franchise QB, or a winning QB. My hope is he plays like he did the last 9 games of ’16 or better the rest of his career, and that should be good enough.
He beginning his 7th year here,
But really has played 4 &3/4ths years
While the first 3 were pretty much wasted due to HC, OC’ass, scheme’ass, and having his college QB coach (who knew absolutely nothing about NFL QB’ing) along for the ride!!!
Shoot, Lazor &,All them idjets didn’t even allow THill to be a part of game planning!!!
GO THILL,
GOFINS!!!
i never liked lazor that’s for sure!
“””””.
3) Offensive Bounces Back in Two Minute Drill – If yesterday was a win for the defense on the practice field, today was a totally different outcome during the two minute drill offensively. The drill simulated a end of game scenario, with the offense down by seven points and a minute left in the game. Starting at their own 30-yard line, quarterback Ryan Tannehill led the first unit down the field, connecting with Kenny Stills deep down the sidelines to move the ball to the plus 30-yard line. After a pass to Amandola moved the ball to the 8, Ryan again found Stills on a slant route for six. The offense went for two and that’s where Tannehill found Amandola wide open for the two point conversion and the simulated victory. The second units then continued the period with the same situation, and the result was the same. Back-up quarterback David Fales moves the offense down the field, and found rookie tight end Mike Gesicki deep down the middle, setting up a scoring strike to tight end Gavin Escobar. Going for the win, Fales lobbed a fade route high in the air, and verses man to man coverage, Gesicki went up high and came down with the catch. “””””
Like perversion to Quagmire, GIGGITTYYY !!!!
nice!
Mike E. says:
June 13, 2018 at 4:18 pm
One thing I’ve learned is, both your boy Ajayi and Landry are in the same class. LOW
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Damn! if i had said this at the beginning of last year i would have been roasted
“I’m not surprised,” Landry said when asked why he had not heard from Tannehill since his departure. “We didn’t really have a good relationship anyway, so I’m not surprised.”
Yeah, I’m not surprised either after you fucking LIED you fucking piece of shit LIAR. Not surprised at all that he didn’t call or reach out to you.
“Landry is free to speak his mind in Cleveland, far away from his former Dolphins teammates, who are entering a critical season with a healthy Tannehill and third-year coach Adam Gase at the helm. But it’s up to Tannehill to escalate this one-sided war of words.”
NOPE this wont escalate. Tannehill is too classy to say anything and if the media try to get him to comment he will handle it right. (like KV13 said)
take the high road
I actually felt sorry for Landry having to play for the Browns (well except he is getting paid way more than he is worth to do it) but now I don’t at all. GOOD FOR YOUR Jarvis. good for you. Hope you flame out with the rest of the loser browns this year.
would you like some of my orange kool-aide and aqua blue cheese?
my kool-aides better than yours
I won’t bother re-posting my article from last year about “elite” QB’s and how Tannehill stacks up against them through the first 5 years but I will remind you that he stacks up as well or better than all of the examples I posted. The “Elite” were not elite during their first 5 seasons. they were what many on here call “mediocre” but the kept on getting better every year and their TEAMS had success. We will see with Tannehill.
I believe he will achieve.
With a year off, its a wait and see with him. He has many years of improvements and then followed it with regression to start the next, so there is no judgement to pass on him because he is up and down so much. What is and can be held against him is the fact there has been no consistency across seasons and there have been poor traits that also never have been improved on or corrected.
We will need to wait and see with him, but i do think the past counts in the discussion with him, and i do think it counts when setting expectations of him moving forward, because he is no longer at the beginning of his career, and in most cases a QB in year 6, especially one that has started all 6 years in the league (well minus the year he was on IR) would be talked about in a “maybe this is the year he rounds the corner” discussion anymore.
The league isnt very forgiving and most QB are relegated to a backup role after three incosistent and mediocre years. I am hopefule too that this finally is his year, but lets also not make excuses for a 6 year vet anymore. This really is a put up or shut up year, and he will need to be held accountable for his play moving forward.
“3) Offensive Bounces Back in Two Minute Drill….”
Not so impressive when you think that it seems every team we played the last few season had NO PROBLEM scoring in the last 2 minutes of the half against us. (just being devils advocate / butthead here) 😉
Byron Maxwell’s gone, LOL 😏
Rob, your Kool-aid probably does taste better than my Homeraide. But them my Homeraide is 160 proof and will take the varnish off your table and clean the chrome on your bumper, so there is that.
Maybe i can put some in my truck, would i get good kool-aide mileage?
it’s only 80% alcohol. I and I think the sugar and orange flavoring would gum up your injectors or carb.
😉
Rob – We’re fans, we can say whatever we want. If you left a company and then started badmouthing them, and they found out about it, and other competitors found out too, it would look poorly on you. These guys are professionals, they get paid and paid well, it’s a business. It’s bad business to talk about your former employer. Considering that both players landed in good situations, it makes it even more suspect.
It’s called burning bridges. You never know when it will come back to haunt you.
I understand mike however a lot of people talk about how good players are an even feel they have to protect them to a certain point, but boy! as soon as they are gone the daggers start flying, I think landry shouldn’t have opened his big mouth but i’m not sure what Ajayi did??
Wasn’t 2015 tannehill’s “prove it year”? Oops no wait…..wasn’t 2016 tannehill’s “prove it year”?Oh, dang hold on….wasn’t 2017 Tannehill’s “prove it year” ? No no…I get it 2018 is Tanne…………………………………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
He didn’t play in 2017 and he did raise the level of his game in 2016 no matter how hard you try to dent it. LOL
Carumba, did Randy really need to write JBB
Steve, Randy and I have our own back and forth’s about Tannehill. It’s all in good fun.
Tim,
Yep! He RAISED it to 12th in the league….still middle of the pack…oh, I forgot, high end mediocre. Lol
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I am glad to see you finally admit he was just an average QB until then though. 🙂
I don’t think you even remember what my opinion of him was prior to 2016. LOL
By the way Randy, 12th in a 32 team league is not the middle. 🙂
That said his rankings weren’t the reason I felt he played better, I saw it.
he has raised his stats, he’s number 1 in most sacks since entering the league!
he needs to get the clock in his head set, and when the alarm goes off dump the ball, he also needs to improve on moving within the pocket. he’s like a statue in there.
Tim,
Oh come on! We’ve blogged together for over a decade! We’re like an old married couple. Of course I know what you think! Lol
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I do remember you said he has no pocket management issues. That’s really all I needed to know. Lol
You see you don’t remember. I said I think people made his pocket presence worse than it was ignoring how many times he had to escape immediate pressure. I also said he needed to get the ball out on some of those sacks but I prefer a QB who will stand tall in the pocket as opposed to some QBs who bail with the first sense of pressure.
He’s also had issues with his deep ball accuracy, what’s good about having speedy rec’s when you can’t get the ball to them?
He was much better at that in 2016 and having speed isn’t all about the deep ball.
I hear fales is playing great, he may be the number 2 QB, Tannehill better be watching over his shoulder, there’s definitely competition in Davie.
Fales isn’t competing for Tannehill’s job, he’s leading the backup role against Osweiler and Petty.
Tim,
I’m hopeful Tannehill will shut me up this year! With no Solia or Pouncey, he’s all I got anymore, but I’ll survive. Lol
LOL
LOL, of course we want all our players to play well and win.
Randy, I was thinking earlier there was a game I think in 2014 or 15 when Tannehill was sacked for the 4th time or so I think against BUF and I stopped watching because it was as if nobody was even close to blocking anyone. My thought was how can you even compete when 3 defenders are in the backfield before he could even set his feet. It was a joke and people would then talk about pocket presence and I was like yeah okay, what pocket is that, the hot pocket you’re eating. LOL
The heir apparent to Baker Mayfield.
That’s why until he says he is done I will never doubt him. He’s a freak for reasons other than natural physical ability. He’s smart with his body and his focus is an example for young players.
SAME! That man is a true BEAST.
He seems like the kind of guy who will know when he can’t play up to his standards anymore and will walk away gracefully. I hope that’s not for another 2-3 years. 🙂
What is and can be held against him is the fact there has been no consistency across seasons and there have been poor traits that also never have been improved on or corrected.
D, I disagree completely and say this is hater rhetoric. It is an “alternative fact”
He has in fact improved each year on his weaknesses. “He can’t throw down field” next season was top 5. many more examples than that, they are just ignored by the fans who yearn for an instant turn around on the arm of a savior. That savior does not and has not ever existed. the other 21 guys count too.