2018 Season – Game 5 – Dolphins @ Bengals

I look at this game as either the “Road to Redemption” or the “Road to Ruin”.  I can tell you from my perspective, the final score as to whether it’s a win or loss is not what will decide this for me, but rather whether we show up and play a solid game of football, a competitive game, or once again we look totally outmatched.

The Dolphins and Bengals are 2 teams going into this game at 3-1.  The Bengals earned their 3rd win in a thriller over the Atlanta Falcons, while the Dolphins were thrashed and embarrassed in the Devil’s Lair, Foxborough Massachusetts.   The good thing for the Dolphins is momentum only lasts until the next game, and the Dolphins have a chance to rectify certain things, that they aren’t pretenders, they’re for real.  The Bengals on the other hand, are riding a high, but that can be obliterated quickly if the Dolphins get the offense going.

The Dolphins made some personnel changes as recently as yesterday, cutting former 2015 2nd RD pick, DT Jordan Phillips.  The Dolphins also promoted DE Cameron Malveaux from the PS,  The Dolphins also signed OC Wesley Johnson, who started 15 games for the NY Jets last season, after signing OC Travis Swanson last week, now that former starter Daniel Kilgore is out for the season with a torn triceps injury.  At the moment, the Dolphins are evaluating a number of veteran DT’s, to fill the space vacated by cutting Jordan Phillips, but have not yet signed one.  Right now, we have only 3 DT’s, and only 3, because of the loss of  DE/DTWilliam Hayes, so we’re left with Akeem Spence, Davon Godchaux and Vincent Taylor.

The offense just didn’t work last week, and you can assign blame to Adam Gase, or credit to Bill Belichick, and both would be appropriate.  Since our offense has been predicated on speed, getting our speedy receivers in space, Belichick countered that by putting 5-7 DB’s, switching from nickel to dime to quarter depending on our offensive formation, and it completely shut down our offense.  I’d be lying if I didn’t tell you that I wasn’t extremely disappointed with Gase for not having an answer to that strategy.  Still, Gase has another chance this week to get the offense going.  The Bengals have allowed 113 points in 4 games, for an average of 28.3 PPG.  That got a little bloated from last weeks game against the Falcons, who put up 36, but the Bengals have a decent defense, but not a dominant one by any means.

We all know we have to do a better job running the football.  On the other hand, I think it’s important to recognize that all those short passes at or near the LOS are truly just an extension of the running game.  Some refuse to see that, but it is, nonetheless.  The NFL is evolving, and very few teams hand off the football to a feature back 20-30 times a game.  Almost every team has a committee of running backs, and very few backs in those situations get more than 15-20 touches, and that includes runs and pass plays.  Even the teams that have elite RB’s don’t run as much as teams used to.  Ezekiel Elliott and Todd Gurley are the only premier backs that have gone to 20 or more carries at least once, and the Cowboys are 2-2, while the Rams of course are undefeated.  It’s about playing to your strengths, and unfortunately, here in Miami, our strength is NOT rushing the football.  Our O-line has already taken 2 big hits, both of our offseason acquisitions, OG Josh Sitton and OC Daniel Kilgore are on IR.  LT Laremy Tunsil has struggled with consistency, as has RG Jesse Davis and especially RT Ja’Wuan James.  Our O-line just isn’t our best asset, but we need to get it to be serviceable at a minimum.  I don’t think we can come out week after week and not run the football, that’s a recipe for failure.  We cannot be one dimensional, as NE was so kind to point out to us.

Last week’s game tipped our PF/PA into the negative side, so we’re now allowing 22.5 PPG, not bad, considering we got blown out 38-7 last week, and we’re scoring only 20.5 PPG, also off kilter due to the lopsided score last week.  Forget about all the stats, all of them, because this game our team has to show up and play competitive, physical football.  I’m not going to dwell on the Phillips release, but the team showing poorly in 2 consecutive weeks will not be boosting this teams morale, or Adam Gase’s value to the team.  We need to rebound, even if we don’t win this game, although winning it would be ideal.

Some have said Devante Parker could be the next guy to have his exodus from the team, and if you look at how little he’s been used, you would be hard pressed to notice if he was here or not.  If the Dolphins would like to extract any value for Parker, it would be in their best interest to showcase him, and hope a team might be interested when his value is higher after a good game, rather than an all-time low as it presently is.

It looks like Bengals RB Joe Mixon is not likely to play this Sunday, which leaves veteran RB Giovani Bernard as the starter.  They have remarkably similar stats in any case, but they lose the depth w/o Mixon.  WR Tyler Boyd has recently become a favorite target of QB Andy Dalton.  Talented TE Tyler Eifert is healthy (for now), and is beginning to round back into form.  (OOPS!  Eifert broke his ankle last week and is on IR)  Tyler Kroft will replace Eifert at TE.  The Bengals of course also have superstar WR A.J. Green, and newcomer, speedster John Brown.  LB Nick Vigil, who I recall some liked here, is the team leader in tackles, and they also have DT Geno Atkins.  The Bengals also have their starting OC injured, 1st RD pick Billy Price is out with a foot injury and he will be replaced by Trey Hopkins.

So which road do the Dolphins take this week, redemption or ruin?  I should have been born in Missouri (The Show Me State), because until this team shows me they can compete with a better NFL team, I just don’t see it happening.  Let the boos begin, and I hope I’m wrong, but . . .

CIN 30 – MIA 16

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1,758 Responses to 2018 Season – Game 5 – Dolphins @ Bengals

  1. wyoming85 says:

  2. D says:

    Damn Phillips just keeps piling on, and thats a lotta tonnage to pile on.

  3. wyoming85 says:

    OK Bookman!
    We both made the next step!

  4. wyoming85 says:

  5. wyoming85 says:

    Beautiful by Drake!

  6. son of a son of a shula says:

    Tannehill should be benched just for the jacket he wore after the game yesterday.

  7. The Flying Pig says:

    Drake was great yesterday

    Gore too

  8. ocalarob says:

    we went from a ball control offense to that offense playing the pats last week in one play

  9. ocalarob says:

    For all those out there who says the reason we don’t run well is the OL…..I’m just wondering how Gore can avg 4.17 YPC on 1st down which is fantastic! and Drake only 1.74 on 1st down running behind the same OL??

    that really confuses me.

    • Mike E. says:

      Didn’t you throw out any runs more than 10 yards on 1st down to arrive at that stat?

      • ocalarob says:

        yes i did, both Gore and Drake have runs over 10 yards that were not included.
        for the most part it’s a wash.

        if i simply wanted to know what there avg YPC’s are i could look that up.

        I want to know what kind of distance on avg they leave us to pick up the 1st down on 2nd down.

    • stangerx says:

      Why does it matter first down versus other downs? Their yards per carry and total rush yards are similar and Drake has done more in passing. Two good backs.

      • ocalarob says:

        It matters a whole lot, if you have 2nd and 9 you will most probably pass making your offense predictable, at 2nd and 9 the odds are much greater that you will be unable to pick up the 1st down. failing to pick up 1st downs puts fatigue on your defense.

        on the other hand an avg of 2nd and 6 the odds are much greater that you can pick up the 1st, the fact that you are able to plow out an avg of 4 yards on a 1st down carry makes your offense unpredictable on 2nd down, the opposing d can not let you run all over them so they will bring help up exposing their secondary.

      • stangerx says:

        OROb — just don’t think we are that team, but did love how they got Gore going up the middle on Sunday. Stuff was going on. But power running game we will not be overall, least not with what has happened on the OL.

  10. Mike E. says:

    D – I woudn’t pick him up off waivers, I doubt any team would.

  11. ocalarob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    October 8, 2018 at 6:22 pm
    It’s not all about the rushing yards ORob

    I disagree, it’s about keeping defenses honest and not having them in max pass protection because we can’t run the ball early in downs making long down and distance difficult to pick up the 1st, trickling over to our D due to the fatigue of always having to be on the field.

    It’s a domino effect thru out the whole team.

    Drake has no business being in there on 1st down, the way to use Drake is get him in space, stop trying to pound him up the middle.

  12. Mike E. says:

    I need Alvin Kamara to not show up tonight, and Michael Thomas to have a monster game. That’s very unlikely . . .

    • Tim Knight says:

      I already won with Kamara going tonight. I’m just looking to pad my league high scoring for potential tiebreakers. 🙂

  13. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe we need to go poaching?????

  14. Tim Knight says:

    ORob, you are the only person I know who goes by the 1st down rushing stats criteria you use.

  15. ocalarob says:

    i just look at the 1st down play by play of each game, it’s easy takes 5 mins

  16. Tim Knight says:

    ORob, it’s no different than say an incomplete or a pass for low yardage on 1st down. I have no idea why you harp on this. Drake runs more stretch plays than Gore who has always excelled as an inside low to the ground type runner. Gore has been stuffed on 1st down as well. It’s about execution, not that Drake can’t run on 1st down. You also say it’s about keeping defenses honest. Well if you never run Drake on 1st down then teams already know it’s a pass. It really is silly.

  17. stangerx says:

    Tanny was was hit 11 times in the second half.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That doesn’t count. If you’re not a fan of his those stats don’t matter. It’s pretty obvious. Everyone talks about how bad the OL was when Tunsil went down but that clearly has no effect on Tannehill or anything else.

  18. Mike E. says:

    Oh BTW – Ajayi is done with a torn ACL

  19. herdfan says:

    stangerx says:
    October 8, 2018 at 6:59 pm
    Tanny was was hit 11 times in the second half.

    If I’d been close enough it would have been 12.

  20. Randy says:

    I am a big fan of running the ball. No disagreement there. But, it’s not just about 1st down. What if you get 4 yards on first down…run it again and lose a yard? EVERY down counts. Yes, get 4 yards on first down, and you’ve taken the first step. But, if you aren’t successful on every down, it won’t matter. Hell, as I’ve said before, get just 3 yards a carry on first AND second down, and you are in a very manageable 3rd and 4. YPC averages out pretty evenly throughout the NFL. You’re gonna get around 4 yards a carry…give or take. The bigger issue is that you can’t have all these negative plays. Then, you get a bunch of incompletions on second down throws after a 3 yard or less run on first down, and you’re in a tough third and long again. Even if you could average 5 yards a carry throughout the season, which is very good, you are still in a longer third down situation.
    Maybe Gase doesn’t believe that you get rewarded in the running game as the game goes on. He gives up on it by the second quarter, and we never get a chance to reap the benefits as the game goes on. That’s my biggest issue on this topic. Stick to it. Those 2 or 3 yard runs turn into bigger runs later in the game….but we never run it long enough to find out.

    • ocalarob says:

      It’s a proven fact that teams who run the ball successfully on 1st down and avg 4 yards per carry, that is the mendosa line and that team more than not wins the game.

      In todays NFL whether you believe it or not teams are more likely to run on 1st down than they are to pass.

      Defenses know this, it’s a test of physicality.

      in regards to winning it is the most important down.

      it is disguised though because it’s usually uneventful 3 yards and a cloud of dust, but it is the most important down

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not all game situations are the same. Just saying run it more does not lead to anything if you’re not executing it. That seems to get lost in these conversations.

  21. Randy says:

    I kinda disagree. Even if you aren’t getting good results from the running game early on, you need to stick with it. You cannot give up on it. It’s funny because you never hear people say to stop throwing it after a few incompletions. A 2 yard run sucks, but it’s still better than an incompletion! Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      Randy, I also disagree that Gase always stops after the 2nd quarter. Remember I’m a proponent of the running game and not a fan of shotgun which just about every team runs more than not. But if it’s not working, just like any other plays that aren’t working, you’re still punting. It’s about execution. Always has been, always will be.

  22. mf13ss says:

    I’m still reeling from yesterday’s come-from-behind defeat. All I heard at work today was, “What is going on with your Phins?”. And all my fellow Phin fans have already thrown the towel in on our season. I just shook my head all day, unable to offer any excuses nor solutions.

    I must admit, I’m getting tired of…
    1) Everything having to be almost PERFECT in order for Tannehill to thrive.
    2) Having a poor running game and running all the time (see the Philbin years: 3rd and long, running play). Then having a great running game, and barely running at all (see the Gase years: 3rd and short, passing play).
    3) Our O-Line always losing key starters every year.
    4) Bubble-screens.
    5) Blowing sizable leads.
    6) Our inability to play consistent football, week in and week out. We win in chunks and lose in chunks.
    7) Being mired at a collective .500 over the course of the last 7-8 years.
    8: Never having adequate, quality depth on the O-Line: the falloff from starter to backup is absolutely astronomical.
    9) Some kind of BS, off-field issue. It hasn’t happened YET this year, but continue to stay tuned…
    10) This franchise letting all of us down, year after year: we haven’t been in a Super Bowl since the ’84 season.

    It’s VERY frustrating, fellas.

  23. ocalarob says:

    where is this all star Kenyan Drake? it is suppose to be his break out year, he had one nice run and catch yesterday, i’m certainly not going to confuse him with Leveon Bell or todd gurley anytime soon but all off season i had to hear how he gained the most yards of any RB and how he was going to be a super star this year, where is this guy? did he leave the jersey with a big S on it at home??

  24. Randy says:

    ocalarob says:
    October 8, 2018 at 7:23 pm
    It’s a proven fact that teams who run the ball successfully on 1st down and avg 4 yards per carry, that is the mendosa line and that team more than not wins the game.
    Ya lost me. What’s a proven fact? The sentence seems to be missing something.

    • ocalarob says:

      according to an exhaustive study of NFL play data conducted by Yale professor Cade Massey, what happens on first and 10 in an NFL game is a powerful indicator of who will win.

      According to Dr. Massey, an assistant professor at the Yale School of Management, the ability of an NFL team to meet certain benchmarks on each down is one of the best predictors of whether a drive will be successful. When it comes to first down, he says, the magic number is four

  25. ocalarob says:

    Gore was pounding the ball yesterday for almost 3 quarters and we were killing them, then the pass on 3rd and 1, from that point on Gore had one carry and we were outscored by 27 unanswered points!
    why did we stop running with Gore?

    • mf13ss says:

      Ask Gase.

    • mf13ss says:

      SMH @ Gase.

      • Tim Knight says:

        They did, turnovers in the most bizarre ways and Tunsil going down changed the momentum of the game. Not the running game.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Because he also had minimal gains at times, but being that only his 9, 6 and 4 yards runs count, we forget the no gains and losses. That still counts in the big scheme of things.

      By the way the Mendosa line was about a SS who hit .200 or below, not a good thing. LOL

      • ocalarob says:

        all negative yardage plays count

      • ocalarob says:

        (12:17) F.Gore left tackle to MIA 30 for 9 yards
        (3:54) F.Gore left guard to MIA 32 for 5 yards
        (12:50) (Shotgun) F.Gore right guard to MIA 49 for 1 yard
        (5:07) (Shotgun) F.Gore left tackle to MIA 30 for 5 yards
        (14:49) (Shotgun) F.Gore right guard to MIA 21 for 2 yards

        Kenyan Drake 1.33 ypc x 3 attempts
        (3:51) (Shotgun) K.Drake up the middle to MIA 35 for 3 yards (P.Brown).
        1st & 10 at MIA 32
        (11:39) (Shotgun) K.Drake right guard to CIN 25 for 1 yard
        (11:43) (Shotgun) K.Drake left guard to MIA 25 for no gain

  26. mf13ss says:


  27. Randy says:

    So, it’s not running on first down. It’s getting 4 yards? Through the air or on the ground, as long as you get 4 yards? I’m not sure I needed a Yale professor to do a study to tell me that.

    • ocalarob says:

      well you asked, and reading the article it refers to the run, i just googled it to see if i could find something on it while i was getting hammered for my opinion

  28. Randy says:

    I really don’t give a damn how we do it. Both phases need to improve if we are ever gonna enjoy success. Just figure it out. Results is all that matters. I just think we’d be better served to run more consistently. If you can throw 4 TDs a game, I’m all for that too! Lol

  29. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 8, 2018 at 7:45 pm
    They did, turnovers in the most bizarre ways and Tunsil going down changed the momentum of the game. Not the running game.
    I respectfully disagree on that one point. We seemed to pass the ball often, even before the bizarre 3 PASSING-play turnovers (2 INTS, 1 lost fumble). We should have been trying to bleed the clock with running plays. Though I do get it, we can’t run EVERY play, such as in 3rd and long sits… gotta move the chains to keep the clock ticking.

    I DO agree that we needed to pass the ball once the Bengals took the lead, later in the 4th quarter.

    $#!t, man… this game was all of our worst nightmares come true, as Phin fans. I’m not even sure I agree or disagree on anything anymore… it’s just SAD. 😦

    • Tim Knight says:

      It sucked!!! I still can’t believe what happened. Once Tunsil went down the Bengals went “46” defense on us and we couldn’t handle it.

    • Mike E. says:

      I thought we passed the ball when we lost Tunsil, and the Bengals were using odd formations to take advantage of a weak left side, and played right into their hand. That bothered me.

  30. mf13ss says:

    All is not lost, however. We’ve got a VERY solid Defense, as we all witnessed yesterday: 10 points yielded all day. If we can build on that (yes, we can), we’re still relevant… so long as our Offense doesn’t screw our Defense, as happened yesterday.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      We can’t score. All IS lost. Shame too cause that’s going to suck the life out of this team then it will get real ugly.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You’re right, we dug ourselves out of a bigger hole in 2016 in Gase’s first season at 1-4. At the end of the day we’re still 3-2. I know confidence is low right now and that’s natural but an NFL season has ups and downs. Let’s see how we deal with it.

  31. son of a son of a shula says:

    Drew Brees set to have the career passing yardage mark tonight a record Marino left the league holding. The guy has had an amazing career. Oh what could have been but alas we have the great Ryan Tannehill.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Brees was 2006 and Saban passed. Seriously? How about a whole lot of other teams who should have targeted him. As if anyone knew back then. It’s easy to say now. Nobody saw this coming from Brees. Nobody! Good QB yes, what he has become no fucking way!

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Tim chill dammit I know the fucking history you know as well as I do he could have been ours at the time.

  32. bat says:

    Is the long Hennehill nightmare over yet? … Are we done trying to build a super team around a less than mediocre QB?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Hell no they love him and he can do no wrong

      • Tim Knight says:

        Who said he can do no wrong? Are we back to making shit up again? Wow!

        Just because people don’t agree with your level of criticism about the guy means it’s okay to make shit up? Not cool but I guess that doesn’t matter to you. Didn’t think you were that type of guy. Just like the other day you said I was yelling at you. I was talking about not changing HC’s every 3-4 years and then you made it about Tannehill. Seriously man?

    • mf13ss says:


      What’s up, dude?!!

  33. bat says:

    Maybe someday we will hire a really talented OC who can manage to design and install the complex QB sneak into our moribund offense.

  34. bat says:

    HEY MF .. are we having fun yet???

  35. manitobafinfan says:

    This is not to absolve the O of any blame yesterday. The D did contribute hugely to the momentum swing with the 2 Unsportsmanlike Flags that kept that drive going twice after we had stopped them on 3rd down .. i do not remember if that drive resulted in points or nit, but those two flags were nut punches

  36. mf13ss says:

    HELL, no, Bat!!!

    This team is taking more air out of it’s fanbase than Tom Lady* takes air out of his footballs!

  37. mf13ss says:


    But on the OTHER hand… YES… I AM having fun!!! 😉

  38. son of a son of a shula says:

    Bat good seeing you buddy.
    I don’t type fast enough to argue and sarcasm is lost on Tim lately take it easy.

    • Tim Knight says:

      So that makes me lost? How the hell would I know that when it’s clear you don’t like the guy? I talk about one subject you change it and then it’s on me. Sounds like our political climate in this country. I said this, but let’s focus on that. Typed words don’t always come through like that. Easy big fella! I’m not as hostile as you think. 🙂

      We all hated what has happened the last two games. But it is most definitely not about one player.

  39. bat says:

    Hennehill thinks “Pocket Awareness” is a billiards term.

  40. bat says:

    Wait Son …Don’t go ..Your biting commentary is essential to maintaining the natural balance..

  41. bat says:

    Toba .. Thanks bro .. I’m attracted to the negativity and suffering ..With this team I know it’s just a matter of time lol

  42. bat says:

    son .We don’t want to be haters .We just play the hand we’re dealt …

  43. manitobafinfan says:

    Maybe someday we will hire a really talented OC who can manage to design and install an offense.
    There i fixed it

    • Tim Knight says:

      Let me ask this? So we’re all praising our defense for playing well most of the game. How about the Bengals defense being good too? Are we supposed to just say our offense stinks and the Bengals defense can’t compete. We were beating them in the game but by no means does their defense stink. All games are different. We all know the Vikings have good personnel on defense yet they are not having a great season thus far. We get a sack or make a play on defense and it’s our guys are great. When the opponent’s defense does it we grill our offense. Do we mock their offense when we do it? Not that I see. Except for Drake taking out Lawson on that chip. LOL

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        There’s a difference between being a good defense, and Cincy has a good defense, and being given gifts.
        They didn’t take it was given. That’s why it sucks for all of us.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Not at all Tim : from above

        This is not to absolve the O of any blame yesterday. The D did contribute hugely to the momentum swing with the 2 Unsportsmanlike Flags that kept that drive going twice after we had stopped them on 3rd down .. i do not remember if that drive resulted in points or nit, but those two flags were nut punches

  44. Tim Knight says:

    Ha! Bat’s arrival right on cue. LOL

    Hope all is well, man. 🙂

  45. bat says:

    Think of how bad the Titans, Jets and Raiders must feel …They LOST to this team !!!

  46. mf13ss says:

  47. bat says:

    Toba ..Nice TIFI … You mean an offense not built around Bubble screens and 4 yard hitches?

    • manitobafinfan says:

      I mean any sort of an offensive Identity.. are we a bad passing team ? Or are we a bad running team ? Choose something and stick with it !! I get teams will scheme to take it away and we need to adjust, but we need to adjust, not Bail

  48. bat says:

    Hey Tim ..Yeah Sundays game sent me over the edge… I had to vent

  49. bat says:

    On third and long, why do we never throw the ball beyond the sticks? ..It’s always a two yard pass and hope the receiver breaks three tackles

    • Tim Knight says:

      Believe it or not, I see that in every game I watch, I hate it but that’s how the league plays these days. We’re not the only ones. When a team makes it nobody talks about it.

  50. manitobafinfan says:

    Tim i was also one of few who did not have a problem with Tannehill trying to ground the ball when it took a really shitty/weird bounce .. some shit just happened, and for sure Cincy D gets paid to stop us and they ramped it up in late 3rd and kept the pedal to the metal

  51. son of a son of a shula says:

    He misses too many throws that kill drives. It’s constant. Except the few and I mean few times we actually do put a drive together. With better passing and the same play calling we could easily be putting up close to 30 every week.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      We also have to overcome a shit ton of pre snap penalties which are not his fault.. dont get me wrong he is not blameless, but not 100% of our offensive failures are on him alone ..

    • Tim Knight says:

      You wish that was the case, not sure that would be the case. Penalties, bad routes and dropped passes are still relevant as well. We convert and it comes back. We make a play on defense to get a stop on 3rd down and there’s the flag. All of that adds up. It’s not all about #17. And no he’s not great and can do no wrong.

  52. son of a son of a shula says:

    That last pass on third down on our very first drive is a prime example of what I mean. It was wide open. Then we punted instead of at least getting into FG position.

  53. mf13ss says:

    Adam Gase WILL ride or die with Tannehill… that’s not only cliche’, it’s REAL.

  54. mf13ss says:

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Yeah I meant to mention O’Leary today but can’t stop on Tannehill. O’ Leary played so well in fact they may even throw him a pass next week.

      ICYMI our offense is potent that we haven’t even thrown a pass to Jakeem Grant in either of the last 2 games. That’s pretty good.

  55. bat says:

    Son ..Twice Hennehill missed on wide open third down throws that would have kept the offense on the field … The he audibles out of that third and short call so he could heave up a thirty yard weather balloon…SMH

  56. manitobafinfan says:

    In general yesterday i only recall 2 deep balls attempted .. one was the 3-1 that I actually dont remember but have read a lot about, and the basically Hail Mary at the end that was picked off

    • mf13ss says:

      That’s pretty much what I saw, too, in watching the game live. We throw it MAYBE 2-3 times deep per game. That’s not enough to keep 8 out of the box, nor to keep defenders from playing press on the short dink-and-dunks we throw 95% of the time.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      That only looked like a Hail Mary. We were fucked by then anyway.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Tannehill had to make sure to pad his stats with another pick.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Oh i know but i was in essence the same as a hail mary … so yes 2 stretch the field attempts , as MF says , will cause run game to get shut down ..balanced attack or complimentary football as Timmie says

  57. mf13ss says:


    Again, I feel that all is NOT lost (thanks for your props up the page). But unless Gase starts calling better games, our Offense could sink our stellar Defense. We shall see…

    • Tim Knight says:

      If you don’t execute the plays, what does better mean? Just as our defense stopped a 30+ point offense most of the game, does the CIN defense get any props for the same? It was a low scoring game in nature. Grant made a huge play at the end of the half on STs to make a 7-0 game 14-0. The debacle at the end was a shocker, but before that did we ever think our offense shit the bed? Some games are like that.

      People are sucking Baker Mayfield’s balls, the Browns won 12-9 in OT. That’s the kind of game it was. The Ravens also think they were screwed twice in OT. That’s also the kind of game it is.

      The Dolphins top to bottom have to gather and say what are we from here? A 3-2 record is totally manageable from here, go do it or totally collapse. We’ll see.

  58. manitobafinfan says:

    I agree all is not lost it was a vast improvement on efforts over the Pats game , even some of our turnovers were a result of effort.. am I worried about Kalil Mack wrecking us this week ?? Yes , yes i am .. am I worried about Trubinsky ? No not at all

  59. wyoming85 says:

    On the 3-1 I thought he was going to flip it to Drake who had a 10 yard cushion?

    Drake dropped an easy 3rd down early!

    The wide open miss to MG i believe Tanny had his arm hit? I know it was on one 3rd down!

    I’ll say it again!
    The Bengals made a halftime adjustment to Blitz like NE the week before!

    Probably thought they wouldn’t have to to begin the game with Atkins and Dunlap?

  60. bat says:

    Gace coaches like a guy who is pretty confident that he’s not getting canned. No sense of urgency at all. Hennehill will win two or three meaningless games at the end of the season to get to 7 wins. Gace will reaffirm his confidence in Hennehill and we’ll make a token gesture by drafting a 5th or 6th round QB …Rinse and Repeat …

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Well Falk conveniently broke something last week so they already have one on ice. We’ll hear how great he is all year until the season starts and he disappears again.

  61. naplesfan2010 says:

    Grant also became the second player in NFL history (Dante Hall, 2003) with a 100+ yard kickoff-return touchdown, 70+ yard punt-return touchdown and 50+ yard touchdown catch in a single season.

  62. son of a son of a shula says:

    Look Falk we like you we really do but son we can’t keep carrying 4 Quarterbacks on our roster ( nudge Falk) if you were to smash your pinkie let’s say, non throwing hand of course, in your car door we’ll remember that fondly next time we’re negotiating nomsayin’ ?

  63. son of a son of a shula says:

    Brees needs just 35 more

  64. son of a son of a shula says:

    UCF receiver gets the record catch

  65. mf13ss says:

    Hurricane Michael barrels toward the Florida Panhandle and is expected to become a massive Category 3 storm before landfall. https://fxn.ws/2IJgg4t
    Hey… all y’all on the Panhandle, take NOTICE, and be SAFE, ya heard? PREPARE.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Yeah we have some guys over there. Hunker down y’all unless you get evacuated. In which case head to Miami, catch the Bears game.
      Seriously though you guys be safe. D, BBM, SB and any others

  66. mf13ss says:

    Congrats to Drew Brees.

  67. manitobafinfan says:

    I am okay with Brees breaking what once were Dans records, was not so much with Favre or Manning .. Brees is a class act.. so was Manning but he was the enemy 🤡

    • mf13ss says:

      In the end, it doesn’t matter. Dan Marino will ALWAYS be the greatest QB of all time. I think rational peeps already realize that had he played in the Goodell era, he’d have passed for over 100,000 yards with 700+ TDs.

  68. bat says:

    If Brees would have played in the NFL before it went soft on QB’s and WR’s he would have been just another guy …IMO

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He does have excellent escape ability and Tarkenton did pretty well at about that size. Plus he’s very accurate. Probably really good but perhaps not a record setter. Interesting.

  69. mf13ss says:

    One of these days (REMIND ME TO DO SO!), I’ll write about how Marino’s career would project in the modern Goodell era.

  70. naplesfan2010 says:

    hurricane Michael is sending us bands of rain and gusts of wind right now and more will come through about this time tomorrow. No big deal.

    They expect it to make landfall at Panama City then go through Tallahassee then pass between Charleston and Charlotte before hitting those same poor people in NC that just got hit with the last hurricane. More flooding dangers.

    Then it will go out to sea and might do that Sandy thing coming back in at North NJ. Wishing you all the best up there.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      That’s a lot of land mass it would have to endure through to pull a Sandy.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        Thing is it is supposed to go out to sea south of Chesapeake Bay, so there is plenty of time time suck up a lot of water. If it scrapes along the shoreline, then it’ll just be a rainy day in Brooklyn.

  71. mf13ss says:

  72. naplesfan2010 says:

    Hey I definitely think Tannehill needed to have better ball security, but what incredible bad luck that those balls fell right into the hands of their guys instead of just falling as incomplete like those types of passes do 90% of the time and THEN the Red Sea parts and BOTH guys have clear paths to score.

    I bet you can’t find 5 games in history where TWO DL get INTs off wild caroms and score 2 pick 6es.

  73. bat says:

    son ..You’ve got to factor in the ability to hang in there and not really worry about getting popped. No reason to get happy feet when the rushers are walking on egg shells … Plus receivers can’t be thrown off their routes past 5 yards … MF is right, Dan might have averaged 500 yds a game in todays NFL

  74. bat says:

    son … Put me down for 9″ hands and a complete lack of awareness.

  75. bat says:

    Good chatting with you boys again ….but 4AM comes pretty quickly ….Later!

  76. ElephantRider says:

    Wonder if they will be flying a fire RT17 banner now?

  77. naplesfan2010 says:

    Bat gets up at 4AM?? … jeez I thought I was OCD getting up at 5:15AM.

  78. wyoming85 says:

    Well at least I wasn’t the only one!!!!!!!!

  79. manitobafinfan says:

    See we are not the only team that does dumb/weird shit on 3-2 , 4-2

  80. Tim Knight says:

    Go listen to Montana and Elway talk about Marino. They knew. They were on more complete teams. Montana was on a juggernaut. They both say who was more accurate than Danny? When you hear that and look at his stats you wonder why. He didn’t throw bubble screens all day. The guy was dominant at 20+ yard passes. He deflated defenses with his throws. He had little support otherwise. Anyone who watched him play knows that. Brady is considered the GOAT. Not in that era princess. You’d be nothing. Lawrence Taylor and others played in that era and yes they would have been allowed to throw you around like a rag doll. 17 years as the best pure passer of all time when defenders could knock you around. Today, you’re pretty close to touch football. Not even a comparison.

    Dan Marino destroyed old school records before it became patty cake nonsense with QBs. I have friends who hated him and the Dolphins back when it was happening. Now they say Marino is better than all of them. That guy made throws I never saw before and still don’t today. Except for may Aaron Rodgers. And I agree.

  81. Rhino says:

    Tunsil needs to include tape of this last game in his next contract negotiations. 😉

  82. D says:

    Panama City is my hometown so that hurricane is going to go right over the property I have over there. I have an aunt and uncle there too. I hope it peters out before it gets inland. We aren’t right on the beach so I won’t have to worry about surge at least.

  83. wyoming85 says:

  84. wyoming85 says:

  85. ocalarob says:

    in the play where juwaun james was beat, it appeared that tannehill was very deep in his drop creating a better angle for the defender to get around james.

    • D says:

      He does it all the time, he drops back too deep in the pocket, and he also steps backwards as a first instinct to escaping pressure, and not up in the pocket. Stepping backwards, espeically when you are already deep in the pocket is a really bad mistake.

  86. ocalarob says:

    Miami was running with an uhbalanced line where tunsil and james lined up on the same side of center, i didn’t catch that in the game.

  87. ocalarob says:

    i think the play of vincent taylor made jordan phillips expendable, nice fg block by taylor

    • D says:

      Taylor has definately imoproved and i agree with you he made Phillips expendable. If you put Taylor’s character (or Godchauxs for that matter) intho Phillips physical frame and ability, that would be a destructive force. Too bad all that talent is wrapped up in a apathetic human being.

  88. ocalarob says:

    we just have to pick up the pieces and move forward, all losses are ugly and we will experience them, next up chicago, we are one win away from silencing the 2019 draft discussions

    • D says:

      I dunno, i dont think all losses are ugly, they all suck but they arent all ugly like the last two. The last two literally showed we are posers, our 3-0 record (which a lot of us already didnt feel great about those wins) was a mirage. We have reset the belif in this team back to square one and we now are at game 6. To really feel better about these two losses our next few wins cant feel like we backed into them.

  89. ocalarob says:

    i’m going to (try) to hold off on discussing the run, i think gase is starting to get it and i know it annoys some around here.

    its addicting so i’m going to give it a (try), all i want for christmas is an established
    ‘you know what” game!

    • D says:

      I dont think anyone here really disagrees with your discussion about running the ball, just that Drake isn’t a viable RB. Gore definitely has a better style for splitting small creases in the line. He runs very low and is hard to tackle in a congested space. He is also better about pushing the pile, but i, and a lot of others dont think that means Drake is not a good back to have out there on 1st downs. Im all for Gore being the starting back and the grind it out back, but you cant have a guy as dynamic a play-maker as Drake not on the field. It just doesnt make sense. I really wouldn’t mind to see more two back sets, split and power formation, and i definitely want to run more, and its mostly because i dont think Tanny will ever be able to win games with his arm. Too many things have to be perfect for him to play well, so our best bet is to take the burden of winning a game off of him.

      • ocalarob says:

        I would get into this discussion but I won’t. in fear of offending other posters on this site

  90. D says:

    Sorry for all the replies ORob im not trying to be argumentative with you, you just are the only one posting right now and i liked the topics ya brought up lol.

  91. Mike E. says:

    I wonder how Ajayi will be after this ACL injury. The guy had had awful knees to begin with, this can’t help things any.

    • D says:

      When we drafted him that was my concern. He was a helluva steal in the 5th, but there was always that when is the first injury going to be his last one. I hope he recovers from it but the dude didnt have any cartilage and now he has blown out his ACL. The ACL keeps the bones from pivoting on each other and the tibia and fibula in the right positions. Sounds to me like this is going to really complicate an already bad situation with that knee. Less stability to keep the knee in the right spot so it wont grind = more grinding = a lot of pain and diminished mobility.

  92. D says:

    Id like to see double back formations and not just with Drake and Gore, id like to see Wilson and Grant back there a bit too. The could mix up the pairing and it would really confuse defenses since they all kind of have different skill-sets but at the same time they share a lot of skills as well. You could run pass and run out of the same formation which really fucks with a defense, and you could have uber protection packages if you wanted to by keeping both backs back for blocking purposes.

    We could also run double TE with double backs as a Jumbo, and if we wanted to get more passes out of that formation we just have to motion players out wide, could be a back or a TE or both. What we keep lining up every week isnt working.

    • Mike E. says:

      I think going forward, especially if Tunsil is out, double TE formations would be ideal. I don’t know much about O’Leary, but they trust him more than Smythe. He definitely has more experience. Not sure how long Derby is out. Tannehill seems to be a little more comfortable throwing to Gesicki, so that should continue to grow.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    Be safe Florida peeps.

  94. wyoming85 says:

    Be safe you Floridian, Alabama Coasters!

  95. wyoming85 says:

    Wish me luck!
    My son got drawn for early purchase for the ALCS today!

    I’ll be joining the Battle Royal in 30 minutes! 🙂

  96. Tim Knight says:

    Top doctors eh? LOL

  97. D says:

    The second chance to sign Brees i can understand it. They had Dr’s and those doctors advised them there was risk to signing him. The thing i am bothered by was us passing on him in the draft, especially after hearing that tweet yesterday that said the director of scouting was all in on him and calling him a once in a decade talent. Thats just arrogance drafting away from what the top guy in the position you hired him tells you is a once in a decade talent.

    • D says:

      Imagine Drew Brees paired with Chris Chambers, who we drafted in the second round.That would have been Duper/Clayton/Marino type pairing.

  98. Tim Knight says:

    D, I think Payton being a QB/offense coach probably would have trumped all of that. Saban being a defensive coach and not the most personable guy. Just my hunch.

  99. Tim Knight says:

    If Tunsil doesn’t play Sunday Zach Sterup could be the LT with Young remaining as the swing guy. It’s kind of scary that we get the Bears defense after that debacle of a loss.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Bears are also the top run defense allowing just 64 yards PG.

    • D says:

      Yeah im fearing another really embarrassing showing on offense. I just hope there are no more pinball wizard off the helmet to the defensive guys TD’s to endure. Ohhh he hasnt had a backwards pass to no one in a while, maybe we get one of those!. He just needs to mix it up so we dont just have to repeat strip sack for a TD, strip sack for a TD, strip sack for a TD. Spice things up why dont cha! lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        We might have to go big and stay committed to the running game even if it’s not working so well. We cannot let the Bears defense pin their ears back all day. It kind of sucks but we might need to play safe on offense and hope the defense and STs can make some plays. This is not a good matchup for us especially at this time.

  100. Mike E. says:

    Sterup put up 27 reps, not bad at all, considering he probably has 36″ arms. That’s country strong right there

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah he is huge and pretty athletic but I wonder why he went undrafted and has been with 4 teams in two years?

      • Mike E. says:

        He probably can’t block, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he’s big and strong

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL, they did say he had a pretty good camp. Let’s hope he improved on that whole blocking thing. 😉

  101. wyoming85 says:

    Well I got 4 tickets in the nose bleeds!
    For Houston 3rd home game *if necessary

    What a pain in the ASS!!!!!!!!!!

    • D says:

      When i was at my strongest in HS i could bench 330, and i have gotten as many as 20 reps of 225. I never pushed myself to see how much more i could get because i did the max weight low reps kind of workout meant for building burst strength on some days and rep workouts on other. When i did rep workouts i did really low weight, like 135 and would bust out as many as i could and then take small breaks in between and repeat and do that until i really just couldn’t do anymore. I was either doing more weight than 225 or less weight than 225. I did get 5 reps of 315 once too. I bet id be lucky to get 5 reps of 225 now lol.

      • D says:

        lol why did this post as a reply….silly board.

      • Tim Knight says:

        You were probably going to reply to the post about Antonio Brown and then started writing something else. That’s how it’s happened to me.

  102. D says:

    This game is almost a nightmare matchup for us where we are right now. Our D probably can keep their offense in check, but again, there probably couldn’t be too many teams that we would fair worse against on offense. I usually go into games with a feeling like we can win this one. I felt that way against Cincy, but i dont even see how a win here is fathomable.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Low scoring game is the only way I see it lead by defense and STs. Or if we hit on a couple of explosive plays on offense. I don’t expect sustained drives.

  103. ocalarob says:

    3 of the next 4 at home, be great to go 3-1 in that span, would leave us at 6-3

    • D says:

      I think we lose to the Bears. I think its a 50/50 against Detroit 50/50 against Houston and at best 50/50 against the Jets. I could see 3 out of 4 IF the right team shows up.

      Detroit is probably the most winnable IMO. Houston’s pass rush scares me, but id hope Tunsil is back, but we will still have to play a really good game on offense to win, and our D is going to keep having to help us to a win. Jets, is like Houston, but if this had also been playing in New York in November, id probably have us losing.

      My problem also with winning the 50/50’s is that if we get embarrassed by the Bear i think its going to suck whats left of the life out of this team and its going to really make those 50/50’s. If we dont bounce back against the bears, and play well, even in a loss, we are going to lose those 50/50’s.

      Its hard to predict any of this because i want to be optimistic and know that the decent version of our offense will show up but im also have no real reason to believe it other than blind faith.

      • stangerx says:

        With you on not feeling good about the Bears.
        Detroit you forgot the Fest magic factor. And Rock will be there.
        Houston away with you on 50/50, but they are squirrelly.
        Jets at the Rock — come’on.

      • Tim Knight says:

        As long as the team can get over that 4th quarter debacle and move past it, there was lots of good in that game as we won for 3 quarters. Build on that. Our OL situation is what has me concerned about the Bears. That’s why I said earlier we might have to go big and play max protect a lot and keep it on the ground even if we’re not picking up a lot of yards. Lots of passes to the RBs might help as well. I think we need to try to win a low scoring game.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’d sign up for 6-3 right now. LOL

  104. Ken says:

    I saw this and couldn’t help but think of Piggy:

  105. Mike E. says:

    Da Bears!

    • Tim Knight says:

      What sucks is I have the Bears and Ravens DEF in FF and I have to start the Bears because of the numbers and matchup. But this is also an example of how you can play FF and not root against your team. My rooting has no bearing on the outcome. I surely didn’t root for what happened in the 4th quarter in Cincy but it happened. I won’t root for the Bears to wreck the Dolphins, I will root for the Dolphins to win. But it’s not a good matchup from an objective viewpoint.

  106. stangerx says:

    They changed up the parking a bunch. Orange is a poor man’s pass these days with the tennis center stuff. Fest seats are on the 40 on the visitor side. Still thinking E-13 or E-23 area makes the most sense.


    • Mike E. says:

      Does that mean we will be in the sun at our seats?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      E23 would work for me. The further out the slower the crowd fills in next to us. Choose whatever you’d like.
      Mike I don’t think any of the upper level gets the sun. Just the sideline and the lower seats.

  107. son of a son of a shula says:

    For those heading down on Wed tomorrow will be a week out. The Fest is almost upon us.

  108. son of a son of a shula says:

    Of course the Bears are coming off their by week I hope it’s sunny and 95 blasting on them.

  109. wyoming85 says:

  110. wyoming85 says:

    Well I guess we are going to have to change the constant’s in our math again?
    seems like a good Oline ain’t going to come cheap!!!!!

    • mf13ss says:

      That’s due to the design of the Adam Gase Offense. Gase himself has stated in so many words that the ball will be out in under 2.? seconds, thus there’s no need to spend huge $$$ on an O-Line. It killed me when I heard him say that this past offseason.

      • mf13ss says:

        And that doesn’t mean I want to pay FA studs to be our O-Linemen. I’d rather home-grow our own and re-sign those who are worth keeping over the long-term.

      • Tim Knight says:

        So which is it, FA or the draft? You can’t spend a ton of money in FA and use your top draft resources on the same positions. Both our tackles were 1st rd picks and are not “cheap”. Sitton wasn’t “expensive” but not cheap and Kilgore a little less. I’m not sure where you stand on this issue other than bashing the team when things don’t pan out. This is an issue league wide. OL is not easy to build, it’s 5 players that have to build chemistry and hope they stay healthy. Not sure how you think there is some solution to this other than trying. Hindsight is really easy to criticize.

        The starting 5 we started the season with was looking pretty good but it lasted less than 5 games. Tunsil should be back, but man, how do you prepare for what we’ve gone through? Most teams only keep 9 OL and dress 7.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Our issue is staying healthy. I have no idea what it is but we can’t seem to keep a core OL together for very long. It really sucks!

      • mf13ss says:

        It’s driving me crazy.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s driving us all crazy. Nothing ever pans out and it’s been happening for 10 years. We’ve added good players on the OL but they never get in sync for more than half a season. I’m at a loss. If you know the solution please share with the org. Nothing seems to pan out long-term.

  111. The Flying Pig says:

    If some dude tries to mount me while he is drunk – he can expect a trotter to the face

  112. Mike E. says:

    Not hitting on any of the 3rd RD pick OL, like Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner hurt us. I hope that maybe we get lucky with Asiata who was a 5th RDer, that would make up some for the blown 3rd’s.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      When you miss so much something is wrong
      Scouting or player development
      Between the injuries and the missed picks – the OL has been a disaster Nd something is wrong beyond just who the players are

  113. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 9, 2018 at 7:58 pm
    So which is it, FA or the draft?…
    This would be my blueprint, at least over time when we’re finally stabilized on the O-Line…

    LT: draft a STUD pay him stud LT money if he’s a stud. We might have him on our roster right now in Laremy Tunsil, and don’t need to worry about re-signing him at the moment. We want a top-5 LT/$$$.

    LG: if we have a STUD LT and stellar Center (see below), we don’t need an elite LG… we just need someone who can gel between the two who can thrive in our system. He doesn’t need to cost an arm and a leg. We want a top-16 LG/$$$.

    C: find someone who can be stellar. He doesn’t need to be a perennial All-Pro, just someone who is one of the better at his position…someone who our QB can develop excellent rapport. Preferably he can hold his own against NTs, and get to the second level against DTs. Pay this guy as a stellar C. We want a top-10 C/$$$.

    RG: this is your ‘road-grater’ position, and should be the easiest part of the O-Line to fill. So long as he can adequately pass-block (and road-grating is a given), this should be easy-peasy and relatively cheap… at least IMO. We want a top-20 RG/$$$.

    RT: many teams have 2 opposite edge-rushers in today’s game, so we’re going to have to pay more today than what we had in the past. A top-8 RT should suffice, as we don’t need the BEST RT in the game. We want a top-8 RT/$$$.

    I’m doing this on a whim, by the way, thus this is just a quick overlook as to what I think we could/should do. The idea is that these player can gel together, and be BETTER as a whole unit, rather than as individuals.

    Yes, I’m paying some $$$ here, but this is what makes the passing game work… and the running game work.

    The idea is to get these draft selections correct (doesn’t matter WHEN they are selected), take advantage of the rookie contracts, and preferably have them gel as much as possible as a unit. I’d prefer (as I stated) to grow my own, rather than pay top $$$ for an outsider FA. However, in order to get to where we need to be, it’s going to take a little bit of both FA and (more importantly) the Draft to make it happen.

    Tim… but to what we’ve concluded, it’s the INJURIES that continue to kill us more than anything, EVERY BLOODY YEAR… DAMMIT IT SUCKS!!! That’s not to say we haven’t drafted poorly, either. I mean, we HAVE drafted Joanelle Martin, Dallas Thomas, Billy Turner, and Jamil Douglas. And Jake Long never panned out long-term due to injury (that SUCKS!), Pouncey had chronic hips (that SUCKS!), and we had ‘Bully-Gate’ happen to us (that SUCKS!).

    And lastly, I DO believe that you’ve hit the nail by large, being we can’t keep changing coaching/management. We cannot generate consistency so long as we continue to switch-out brass… this is the TRUTH!!! 🙂

    I’m willing to pay a LOT more attention to our O-Line than we have in the past, and PARTICULARLY our backups… our backups are a JOKE.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Backups are supposed to be serviceable during a game or for a game or two. Not become starters the rest of the season. That is what keeps haunting us. I don’t know how you stop that unless there is a crystal ball.

      I think Tunsil going down and what we saw shows you his value. He’s a good LT.

      • mf13ss says:

        I think Tunsil is a VERY good LT, by the way. Though he’s had some mishaps this year (penalties and getting driven back into Tannehill), he’s getting better and better.

        I just wish our backups were a little better than NCAA backups.

  114. mf13ss says:

    Outside of the box thought…

    What if there were an ambidextrous QB in the game one day? Ya know, kind of like a switch-hitter in baseball?

    I would think that the O-Line should be symmetrical. I would also think it would be very difficult for receivers (and DBs) to anticipate what’s coming at them in an instant.

    Just one of those ‘OUT THERE’ thoughts! LOL

  115. wyoming85 says:

    Are you NUTS? 😉
    We can barely find one that can throw with on hand, and you want to start looking for on that can throw with 2????????????

    • mf13ss says:

      Yeah, it’s a VERY outside the box idea! And no… I don’t think it would be a team-friendly idea, either.

  116. mf13ss says:

  117. mf13ss says:

  118. Randy says:

    Tannehill drops back 10 yards on that play. And then, instead of stepping straight up in the pocket, which he had room to do but almost never does, he ran out on an arc, which allows the rusher to continue his path and get to him. If he would have stepped up in the pocket the rusher could have been pushed out around him…even though Tannehill was back 3 yards too deep to begin with. Again, unless you know what the hell should happen, don’t try to evaluate a play.

  119. mf13ss says:

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    WOW! This play is far worse than I’d thought, after now seeing it in the All-22. INDEED, this is just HORRIBLE on Tannehill’s part. Yes, he had little to no time what with the rush (yes, Sam Young SUCKS). But whoTF was he even trying to throw the ball to? Really?

    • Tim Knight says:

      So now Tannehill is in his 8th season even though he’s played just a tad over 6 seasons worth of games in his 7th year. Way to go Armando. Not surprised you would fudge the facts just a little bit to make it worse. LOL

      • mf13ss says:

        I can’t help but agree with ya, Tim. Armando did seem to go out of his way to throw shade at Tannehill. Nevertheless… WTF was Tannehill thinking on that play? Did he think he cleared the ‘Tackle box’? And if not, did he think one of his Tackles was an eligible receiver?

      • Tim Knight says:

        It was a bad play. How many times do we have to relive it? Tannehill admitted he’d love to have it back and just take the sack. Wow what a choice, try to get rid of it or take a sack. Move on!!! Armando does the shit all the time.

  120. mf13ss says:

    Randy says:
    October 9, 2018 at 9:50 pm
    Tannehill drops back 10 yards on that play… Again, unless you know what the hell should happen, don’t try to evaluate a play.
    I’m not the biggest fan of Travis Wingfield, myself. But can we concur that THAT wasn’t supposed to happen on that play?!! LOL

    I don’t care if it was more on James or more on Tannehill… we can’t continue to play like this. I DO get what you’re sayin’… and I agree with you over Wingfield, FWIW.

  121. mf13ss says:

    From yesterday…

    And I’m still not buying it.

  122. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t think the OL is worth defending

    But when the bengals are rushing 7 guys, they are the last ones who should be blamed

    There’s no one RUNNING in the Middle of the field on the play
    The safety is backed up the the 50 yard line

    This offense is straight up 💩

    There are big chunks of the field they don’t use

    • The Flying Pig says:

      If I was a DC
      I would blitz the entire defense if I only had to defend the sidelines

    • Tim Knight says:

      Easier said then done, you have to block it to do what you’re suggesting. You can’t throw that type of pass when you can’t set your feet. I mean people act like Tannehill is the only QB to have bad shit happen to him. The OL after Tunsil went down was atrocious. They couldn’t do anything right. Penalties, poor blocking, penalties, poor blocking. I mean come on, man.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        There was no pass to throw Tim

        There is no receiver running in that area
        I’m just talking about a basic quick slant

        When 7 guys are blitzing if a receiver is running underneath – it’s an easy completion

      • The Flying Pig says:

        The pay don’t design plays so that’s receivers find spots underneath the coverage

        Everything is behind the LOS or around the sideline

  123. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe they make these pig size????

  124. wyoming85 says:

    2 QB’s threw a shit pass while in the grasp!
    One was INT for a TD
    The other was caught far a TD

    Same play different results!

  125. son of a son of a shula says:

    Looks like you’re getting Boston Wyo
    4-1 going to the 8th and Yanks aren’t hitting again.

  126. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, in the OAK game when we were down 17-7 and Gase opened it up what was happening pass after pass? Over the middle down the field for chunks yards. How did that happen? Protection even as Tannehill was being hit after he released the ball. You can’t throw slants with people in your face. It’s a quick timing play but you need a pocket and passing lane. We got overrun.

    Like I said earlier to M13, “Tannehill admitted he’d love to have it back and just take the sack. Wow what a choice, try to get rid of it or take a sack.” Now be honest, he takes the sack and what does everyone say about that? I’ll take a shot, “fucking Tannehill takes another horrible sack, he should have gotten rid of it and done it in a way that was exactly how I envisioned it.” LOL

    You can’t function with poor pass pro like that and penalties putting you in long down and distance.

    The Bengals realized without Tunsil they can’t block us. The good thing about that is we now know how good Tunsil is. They couldn’t do that all day with him in there.

  127. Randy says:

    Yes, the OL struggled. But, so did Tannehill. If you’re gonna constantly rip the OL for sucking. At least be fair and rip Tannehill for having shitty pocket awareness and management. Both can be true. He also contributes to a lot of the protection issues. Be real.

  128. Looks like the golden boy continues to dick up the team.

  129. If this team doesn’t draft a franchise qb in the first rd in ’19 it deserves to lose half it’s fanbase. Absolutely ridiculous to come into the season with no other option than a quarterback who hasn’t proven shit in his first 6 seasons and is now showing even more than ever WHY he never should have been drafted by them in the first place. Last year Cutler had a play where he saw the pressure coming and when the ball was snapped he just threw the ball down at the feet of a player rather than wait until he was surrounded by four defenders and do something stupid with the ball like this loser is so great at doing. Give it up. Stick a fork in him. He never was any good and never will be and if you’re still hanging onto that narrative that he’s not had a fair shot or whatever then you’re clueless and that’s all there is to it. Glad to see Tim is still being Tim.

  130. BailBondMike says:

    Things just fine here in Pensacola. Don’t expect it to get much worse here but feel real bad for those in the path from Panama City and east. This storm is a beast!

    • D says:

      Yeah i have family still in P’cola too and they are on the beach down there, Portifino to be exact. Its on the Bay side, but you know as well as me that the Gulf is literally just across the road and less than 100 ft away. The thing about Panama City is they arent nearly as use to hurricanes as P’Cola and Mobile area. This area gets hit all the time (though we have been relatively quiet recently) PC-PSJ area hasnt experience a hurricane in a really long time and not one this big in probably a century or more.

  131. BailBondMike says:

    D, Praying for your family and friends in and around Port St. Joe. I will be working this weekend but off Monday – Thursday next week. If there is anything I can do to help your loved ones in the aftermath just let me know. I have chain saws, shopvacs and tools galore. I can load up the truck and head that way in a moments notice. That town is so isolated and not many ways in, it might take a few days before anyone can get in there. Sincerely bro, I mean it!

    • son of a son of a shula says:


    • D says:

      I really appreciate that BBM, it does look kinda bad for them right now. That thing swelled up to a 4 now and its going to go right across their face. My Uncle and Aunt had decided to ride it out when it was looking like it would be a weak 3 or strong 2, and i dont really think they can chance taking off now, so i just hope the fact that we are inland a little bit with a pretty big pine tree forrest to slow down the winds will help lessen the brunt of the storm.

      Im not worried about my property over there, its insured and its just stuff. As long as my Aunt and Uncle come out of it OK, the rest can be replace and repaired in time.

  132. D says:

    Sitton was a bargain. 6Mil per year at a position where the top guys are 12mil per, that a pretty solid bargain for the caliber player he is.

    Kilgore was a pretty good deal considering he’s a probably upper middle of the road OC. We didnt make the deal, however, we inherited it in the trade.

    Our OL, even with James on his 5th year deal is super cheap. Unfortunately, we aren’t getting anything out of 2 of them.

  133. Mike E. says:


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