This coming Sunday is not only another inter-conference matchup with the Dolphins facing another NFC North team in the Chicago Bears, it’s also the Fest game. Dolphins fans coming from various parts of Florida, east coast, west coast, Canada, I mean this is epic. I thought it was going to be ugly this past weekend, I will freely admit that, and that was before it was announced that Tannehill was out, and Brock Osweiler was in. As it turned out, that may have been a good thing, because although I don’t believe that Osweiler is our answer at QB for this year and beyond, he undeniably brought a different mentality to the team, and the team responded. How long this will last remains to be seen. I strongly feel that Osweiler should Sunday against the Lions. Over 400 yards passing, 31 points on the scoreboard, 3 TD passes (2 INT’s), and a big win when we really needed it.
It was a crazy game, and there was never a scenario in my mind where we put up 31 points on the Bears, who sported a top 2 defense in every category. They averaged 4.5 sacks per game through the first 5 games. Much credit must be given to Adam Gase for figuring out a way to neutralize that, along with the O-line, and the QB Osweiler. It’s also crazy that I feel our defense played pretty well, all the while allowing 28 points. The turnover battle was even, we threw 2 INT’s and lost a fumble, we snared 1 INT and forced and recovered 2 fumbles.
Gore was tearing it up yesterday, he made his biggest impact so far this season with 15 carries for 101 yards for a heady 6.7 YPC. Amendola settled into the “Landry” role, catching the short passes and trying to make the most of them. Forget “Landry” though, it’s Albert Wilson who electrified this game. He catches some of the same passes that “Landry” used to end with 8 or 9 yards and get brought down, but Wilson takes those for 50 + yards a pop. Wilson and Amendola make “Landry” obsolete, so his name shall no longer be spoken here.
What a great pickup TE Nick O-leary has been. Guy just comes in and plays football. Need me to block, you got it! Need me to catch it, you got it! He’s pushing Gesicki down the chart, but this kid deserves it. Kiko Alonso is playing great this year. Doesn’t mean he still doesn’t have his weaknesses, but the things he can do he has been doing very well. Kiko is probably going to top 130 tackles, he has 3 FF’s, 1 FR, and 2 INT’s. Playmaker! Reshad Jones seem to make a few big plays each game. Even if he’s not actually getting the INT, he’s creating them. Vincent Taylor hustling with a motor like a 440 six-pack! That boy tracked down Trubisky and took him down! Lots of things on defense that give you plenty of hope, and some that don’t. McTyer was exposed yesterday. It’s going to happen. Let’s hope good ole Bobby McCain gets better quick.
Matt Patricia’s Lions are 2-3 in the NFC North, and this has not been a great season so far for QB Matt Stafford. Usually, Stafford is one of the better QB’s statistically, but not this year. The Lions have their own version of thunder and lightning, Kerryon Johnson is the lightning, LeGarrette Blount is the thunder. They basically have a 50/50 split in carries so far, Johnson averaging an impressive 5.7 YPC and Blount 2.5 YAACOD (2.5 yards and a cloud of dust). The Lions have 3 WR’s that are dangerous, Marvin Jones, Kenny Golladay and Golden Tate. Jones is like what Parker should have been here, Golladay is closer to Stills, and Tate is like their Albert Wilson. Their former TE Eric Ebron is now killing it in Indy with Andrew Luck.
As I mentioned earlier, I’d prefer to see Brock Osweiler start. Here’s why. I say this with no disrespect to Ryan Tannehill, but I feel like we need to run our offense very carefully in order for him to succeed, and I didn’t see any of that with Osweiler. Not that he was a gunslinger throwing footballs all over Hard Rock, but it just seemed more free, less tense, and much less careful. It’s just what I saw. Osweiler looked calm, and in control. He wasn’t perfect, he won’t be, but there was a different element I haven’t seen with this offense, something intangible. Tannehill is probably not going to be much better, so it should be easy to just say Ryan isn’t ready, so we’re going with Brock. See what happens. If Brock flops, it’s just as easy to say the following week that Ryan is ready. If Brock plays well, no fan will mind if he remains the QB, we’ve seen what Ryan Tannehill can do, nothing wrong with going an alternative, especially if we’re winning.
I am really looking forward to seeing everyone this week, and I hope the game can match the fun we’re going to have all week.
Oh, BTW, we’re 4-2, tied for 1st place in the AFC East. Who woulda thunk?
Finsmob Unleashed 
Well that was the most depressing ballgame I’ve ever been too! 😦
It was worse than watching Houston kick last second FG’s to beat the Fins!
OK Bookman! Your brewers have the ball!!!!!!
Sorry, dude.
Sorry Man
Brewers are on the brink also. MLB will be happy if they get Dodgers/Red Sox.
Brewers are not dead yet though! They have been resilient all year!
Hey Man, isn’t Milwaukee wear Happy Days was set? 🙂
I damn spelled where wear. LOL
That’s tough Wyoming, but at least you got to go to a playoff game. Been to a whole lot of baseball games but only to three of those….. and never one for my team.
Randy says:
October 19, 2018 at 9:22 am
I really doubt we’ve seen the last of Tanny. Osweiler will most likely not be able to sustain his level of play from last week. Tanny will be back in the saddle sooner or later. I hope we keep running like we did last week. That will make life a lot easier.
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Thats exactly how we succeed despite who has the ball, by taking it away from them for anything buit very simple passes that our play-makers turn into big ones. I think though that makes the Who is at QB moot, and if its moot then next year it would be smarter if the Who wasnt 26mil. Thats not a shot at Tanny thats logistics. Osweiler right now is on a league minimum 1 year contract. If he can perform at least as good as Tanny, then we re-sign him to another 1 year prove it contract, pay him 5-6mil cut Tanny and recoup 7-8mil cap space and use it on the OL depth, or some other position we might need depth or starters at.
At this point the argument is the same one had by people who wanted Suh gone. If we have a guy who is getting paid a lot of money and we cant actually tell the difference between him in there an not, then why have that guy. Compound that with the fact that Tanny is not even close to the talent level that Suh was at his position and you have a really strong argument for not keeping him at his current contract. If the guy wants to take a pay cut, then what he is at about 7-8mil makes more sense, but not 26.
None of these arguments should not include and draft a Qb early next year. We have skipped over that for way too long.
Okay need to give final shuttle #s today..
Mike i hear you may be a 4 some now ? Please advise
Anyone else i have incorrect lemmee know asap as we are on verge of second vehicle
Toba -2
Doggie-3
Phelon-2
Son-2
Mike -3
Naples -0
Pig-1
Bookman – 2
Twice – 1
Brian and his son -2
Thanks for playing
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manitobafinfan says:
October 16, 2018 at 10:03 pm
BTW. Pick up is slated for 09:00 am at Neptune, then to Margaritaville .. please budget 20.00 each return trip and hand $$ to me not the driver please .. if 20 go to game we are paying for 20 back thats why i quote return trip.. 20.00 each will cover transport and include a small tip as well .. thanx agin
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How was dinner?
Little more than we bargained for .. we googled menu before we went but was wrong location.. so pricier than expected, but delish.. saw Canning Crowder there as well… gave him a Go Fins as opposed to harassing for pic or autograph, he acknowledged with a Yes Sir , was a nice time
Cool you guys saw Crowder. And Mike E saw Zach a few years ago. Seems if you go to eat with the E’s good chance there is a Phins LB there.
He does seem to be a magnet
fins are in deep crap with RT. we are paying way too much money for what is basically a backup QB.
he isn’t as good as the backup QB< and yet the fins gave him the key to the vault!
Tannehill is so pathetic that after being here at least 5 years, owsweiler is making him look bad.
what a stupid organization we are to let minimum wage pro bowlers go who is setting NFL records,
, and instead overpay hundreds of millions of dollars for a guy that isn't good enough to start.
the tannehill contract is the teams worst ever IMO, as he is only worth about 10 percent of it
even worse, we cant retain excellent talent because we are giving WAY too much money for less talents
the super huge money we are wasting on Tannehill could be used for several players that can actually show up on game days.
why we keep paying hundreds of millions to a crappy player defies common sense, and its a miracle that Gase was able to manage last week with all that's going on.
Gase will need to overachieve and make up for front office mistakes big time IMO, or We will squander the season away
its totally unfair to fuck up the roster and expect the coach to make it right, SMH
thank God for Miami Heat and black jersies ,, or bears would have won IMO
BTW, even a 90 percent pay cut for Tannehill would still leave him too much money for a backup. a good backup QB isn’t worth over 10 mil a year, not even close
so RT is really only earning about 3.3 percent of his pay, more or less, the other 97 percent is wasted money
We aren’t in trouble with Tannehills contract
We Recoup a huge cap savings if we cut him
We also take a significant dead money hit (like we are taking for suh)
But if you are going to draft a qb (which we should)
You are going to need a vet to hold down the qb spot until the rookie is ready
And veteran qbs with starting experience cost $
I’m pretty sure that’s what Tannehill May be in 2019 – a place holder for a rookie we are bringing along
He might have to take a pay cut to stay in Miami
It He may not stay in Miami
It really doesn’t natter
With the rookie salary cap you always have room for a rookie qb and a vet a high priced vet qb
The question for the front office is whether cutting him in the off-season is worth the cap savings vs the dead money
In other words – if you just have to resign a vet and spend more with the dead money and his salary, then it makes no sense to cut tannehill
So Tannehill has incentive to restructure if he wants to stay in Miami
If that happens he will start in 2019 while we bring a rookie along
And as frustrated as Tannehill makes me – I don’t think that’s a bad deal
And now Brockweiler has a shot to audition to be the vet, and if he performs well, we will save money next year by keeping him instead of Tannehill
It’s not a bad situation at all unless you werrr hoping that Tannehill would “turn the corner” – it’s a very workable qbs situation for 2019
More importantly, can we win now with this uncertainty at qb?
according to NFL.com stats, Tannehill is number 28 QB out of only 32 teams, SMH
why we didn’t draft Deshuan Watson , or others that came up over the years is haunting us now
Because he SUCKS!!!!!!!
that’s the point, he sucks, but we gave him a hundred million dollar contract
BTW Watson is one of the 27 QBs. rated higher than RT
Weeeeeee
Watson hasn’t done shit!
But make a great defense lose games!
Next!
he played last week, RT didnt, and is rated higher for 2018 than RT for less than 10 percent of the money.
yea he prolly isn’t that good yet, but still better than RT for a fraction of the cost.
He’s on his Rookie contract!
Let’s see if they sign extend him??
exactly, he would be on a rookie contract for us too if we picked him,
instead we gave an incredibly dumb extension to a lessor talent than Watson, that has barely helped us for 3 the last 3 years.
what a coincidence Ryan saved his worst 3 years for us AFTER signing the extension.
friggin bum.
from 2015
James Walker
ESPN Staff Writer
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The Miami Dolphins have signed quarterback Ryan Tannehill to an extension that will keep him under contract through the 2020 season, the team announced Monday.
Securing promising quarterback Ryan Tannehill with a six-year, $96 million extension is a calculated risk for the Dolphins, but a worthwhile one, James Walker writes.
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The deal is worth $96 million, including $45 million in guaranteed money, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
that’s too much money riding our bench, backup QBs are cheap, and Walker mentioned calculated risk, nice way to say they probably screwed up, but hoping not
Oh and to clarify I was saying Watson sucks!
I don’t need to put my opinion of Tanny on a billboard every 10 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if Watson sucks, remember he is younger and yet can still outplay RT
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so we all get You think Watson sucks
, but , im afraid to ask what You think of QBs not as good as Watson, yet are on our team stealing our money
anyway Wyoming, how do You think RT will do this week against the Lions?
You think He will help us win?
rhetorical question, RT wont be playing at all, just counting his millions
Yes I do!
I expect him in the QB room helping break down film, on the sideline helping Gase see openings in the Defense!
I know you want better QB play for the Dolphins!
We all do!
But Shitting on Tanny makes your argument LESS!
Find a better option and we can talk about that!
I’m talking one available right now, or in next years draft!
Other than that it’s just piss in the wind!
I do talk about drafting a QB, every draft, and will again in 2019, stay tuned.
what can we do right now? hope like hell Gase is a miracle worker, right?
hes out this week bro, sorry
I wasn’t sold on Watson coming out of college!
Just like I’m not sold on Baker!
Watson needs to show he can read Defenses, and mature!
He’s actually almost a mirror image of Tanny! Isn’t that interesting? 😉
except he is younger and cheaper, and a lot more mobile and intelligent.
but its not just Watson, there have been many QBs drafted since RT that are better and cheaper options
we skipped all of that, and overpaid the underperformer, and its not working out the last 3 years, its time to cut bait and move on IMO
Watson hasn’t shown one bit of increased football IQ!
That’s in the past!
It’s still not an answer!
It’s just pissing in the wind!
agreed Watson isn’t great, hes just an average name I picked out that is playing better than RT< there are 26 more names playing better QB than RT, want me to list em?
just google NFL.com stats and all the QBs outplaying RT are there
No David I don’t need to go see any stats about RT!
I have a dozen poster’s here to tell me what a piece of shit he is!
What I can’t seem to get anyone to tell me is what there is for a better option!!!!!!!!!!!
but that is where You would see the better options that 27 other teams found than Us, fair enough if You choose self censure on it, but Watson has indeed shown some damn good intelligence,
listen to former Cardinal and now beatwriter Lance Zierlein on Watson adjusting the OL presnap.
“I saw something when I rewatched [the game] the other night that I didn’t see during the game and I thought it was outstanding. I believe it was late in the fourth quarter. The Colts showed a two-deep safety look, which basically means you could blitz from either side because either safety could come down to cover for the slot whose blitzing. And, for whatever reason, you can see Watson changing the protection to get his offensive linemen to slide to the right.
When I’m re-watching I’m saying ‘what is causing him to do it?’ Now the right tackle can pick up someone off the slot if he came and sure enough he came. I don’t know to this day what caused him to change his protection that way. They disguised it well. I just thought it was outstanding. There was no clue and yet he got himself protected.”
And that, my friends, is what film study and a high football IQ will do for you. Watson works at his craft. In the process of this work, we are going to see mistakes made in diagnosing defenses and making decisions. But he’s a work in progress and a former NFL offensive line coach is already seeing signs of Watson making big leaps in understanding the advanced layers of the game. In college, quarterbacks can play checkers and have great success.
In the NFL, they must play chess.
Man, took me forever to catch up on here from Monday. Wife and I spent the last couple days primitive camping on the beach at FT. McRee here in Pensacola right next to the jetty I fish. Still recovering as we went through a case of beer and 5th of spiced rum in 2 days.
cool beans, any red tide up there? I just got back from couple days at Anna Maria Island, some red tide present, but didn’t see any dead fish.
fishing sucked though, I think that area needs time to recover.
I should have stuck with Jupiter, but didn’t want to drive so far. next time,,,,
I marked tons of fish from 8-12 miles offshore AMI< but they are screwed up from active blooms and wouldn't strike.
normally I find fish on offshore structure they bite, but these guys wouldn't. I googled that satellite images found the bloom extending out to 24 miles SMH
red tide makes the fish ill, and they don't want to eat until they perish
David
I live in the Houston area so I listen to all the Texas fans talk about Watson the same way the Tannehaters speak!
But what do I know?????/
It’s all just my opinion anyway
You live near Houston Wyoming? sounds like a nice place, never been tho, lol
but I have been to Houston Texas before , great place if You like oil refineries, lol
and I heard that, to be honest all fans bitch, lol
it dont change much huh, praying and rabbits feet might help better
Seeing as how I build refineries it’s a mach made in heaven???????
yea, but when You gonna start building solar panels, lol
oil is old school and dirty industry that profits the press murdering Saudis too much
Ahh, I don’t think i want to ride the merry go round today…
Go Phins!
LOL
Oh come on now you know just as good as i do that every once and a while you gotta go spin the fuck out of it and watch the kiddies vomit…. whats life without vomiting children!
Should have said spewing vomit, thats more relative to what happens here.
Parker is another source of irritation, hate the damn guy, lol
I am hoping for more positive topics to come along (smiles)
Fornette must be worse off than reported????
Hyde was someone i was hoping we would go for in the offseason. I mean im very happy with Gore but i wanted to add that kind of runner to the flock, he’s like a younger version of Gore, and maybe a lite version too.
No Ansah will mean almost no pass-rush for them, so i kind of hope thats going to be a no.
There are enough teams out there needing receivers i dont doubt at all they will get offers for Parker, but i dont know if what they want in return will be met.
Let HulkFest begin.
Any drunken shenanigans to report so far? or has Piggy not arrived yet.
Drunken shenanigans not really a day time event, except isolated instances at the tailgate. Gonna do our best at Tunes with the Dog tonight though. Hoping you come some year…. fun as fun can be.
Cowboys, Jags, Browns, Philly, Panthers, 9ers, Bills, Arizona, Baltimore, Colt all have WR needs. If i were the Colts, Bills or Cards, i wouldn’t bother trading id just take my lumps this year and address it in FA or draft. The rest have some outside shot for playoffs still and/or motivation to have at least a non losing season *looking at you Browns*
— A report from Ian Rapoport of NFL Network claims that the Raiders are shopping wide receiver Amari Cooper. Oakland, which has already dealt star linebacker Khalil Mack for a 2019 and 2020 first-round pick, is looking for another first-round selection for Cooper.
I like our receivers but i really like Cooper as a receiver, id trade Parker and a 2nd or 3rd for Cooper.
Patrick Peterson would be someone i wonder f the Cards would trade. They are going to be in a selling mood for the trade deadline so we dont have anything to offer other than draft picks to get the deal done and id bet money it would take a first to get Peterson from them.
— Arizona is “stepping up its efforts” to deal Deone Bucannon, a 26-year-old linebacker/safety, according to a report from CBS Sports. The team reportedly is in the process of realigning and adjusting after its 1-4 start.
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Again, we are kinda ok at the positions, but i really like Bucannon, Parker and 3rd or 4th.
Sweet 8-pound, 6-ounce Infant Jesus….David is off his meds. David – I’m pretty sure (but too lazy to look) that you were singing praises of Tannehill a few short weeks ago. If Aaron Rodgers misses games due to injury, does he suck and is he overpaid? Rhetorical- because he is not.
While oil is dirty, solar panels are just as bad. Lithium is hard to dispose of. And finally, you do know that you cannot me a socialist and an American, right?
I know I cannot Me a socialist and American? Not only do I not know this, it’s actually hard to even understand the question.
Maybe this will help.
America is loaded with socialism, it really “harms” us huh?
Things like
Fire Deoartments
Police Department
Libraries
Social Security
Health Insurance
Are You claiming America has none of these? Then of course I do understand Fox News opinion, it’s wrong., it’s agenda driven, and designed to divide Americans for selfish powerful narcissists dictators. Dictators are not for America.
But there are a lot of socialist things in America, that HELPS us.
Taxation with representation, is what we wanted when we left England. Some of Us might not want representation, or only representation for themselves.
I prefer unification of Americans, not division.
We were always the United States before, who divided Us?
Anyways, google up socialism in America, i already have, and going to work. have a great day fellow socialist American!
And yes I did like to see Tannehill giving us a tease, and I hoped it was real.
But It doesn’t appear real now, it’s frustrating for most Miami fans that he has done very little for so much money, and I know he isn’t worth a hundred million dollar contract, he is worth 10 percent of his contract imo
What the Lions think:
https://www.prideofdetroit.com/platform/amp/2018/10/19/17998656/cheat-sheet-lions-take-advantage-dolphins-backup-quarterback
What son thinks 🖕
Best draft pick for us in a very long time.
Probably since Reshad Jones and Jones really didnt start showing up until a bit later.
Yeah he’s the real deal.
David, No red tide right now. There was some creeping close over by FT. Walton, FL but the hurricane kind of wiped it out, I guess. I wade out at waist deep and fish. No issues. Tore up the reds Tuesday night and Wednesday morning but the wind shifted to out of the NE by evening and there was no bite that night or Thursday morning before we packed up.
All the reds I caught this week were all over 18″ including this 30 incher. Also caught some small snapper and jacks.
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Caught 13 total
David, you’re looking at yards passed. Tannehill is 17th in passer rating. After the first 3 games he was 4th. A couple of bad outings with do that.
This was our home for 2 days.
View from the jetty:
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View from north looking south to gulf:
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This is funny.
Cameron Wake refutes he had surgery: “ESPN said I had surgery? Interesting,” Wake said. “I didn’t know I had surgery. You’re going to have to talk to ESPN about that”
You Rat Bastards (term of endearment) broke my phone with you group texts today! Had to shut it off because I was in meetings all day and when it turned it back on it blew up and froze. I tried turning it off and turning it back on and it just froze up again It stopped when it got to downloading 122 texts hello how are
Should we fill in the blanks? LOL
Kinda funny as I have had none🤔
I’ll be heading down I-75 around noon or so tomorrow. Should arrive at D & B’s between 5 and 6.–I’ll have my tix for Brian and son and the signed photograph from CAPTAIN CRUNCH, HIMSELF, MIKE KOLEN, star linebacker from the ’72 Dolphins.
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Stock boy at local Publix asked me yesterday if I was the guy who wrote ABSOLUTE PERFECTION on the internet. I said, “Yes, how did you know?” He said “one of my co-workers tipped me off about you! Said to look for the old guy with white hair who always wears a Dolphins shirt!” I shook his hand and said “I hope both you and your friend get to see ANOTHER DOLPHINS PERFECT SEASON!” Maybe I should hide out in a Bucs’ T-shirt for a while?
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TO REPEAT: 30-17 Mia
Mrs. OD: 24-7 Mia
SEE Y’all in about 21-22 hours!
I am not into betting at all and really never pay attention to what the line is. We are 3 point underdogs at home against the Lions? That means they think the Lions are a better team, even at our place? I don’t get that at all. Big O effect?
That’s all I can think of that they don’t think Osweiler will play well two weeks in a row. Other than that it makes no sense. Let’s hope he proves them wrong. 🙂
I wonder if Doggy started playing ye?
Tim,
It’s actually kinda interesting to me. I have always felt Tanny plays at his best when he just lets his athleticism take over and kinda wings it a little. When he gets too controlled and robotic, I think he plays worse. For Osweiler, I think it’s just the opposite. He needs to stay composed and play within himself…don’t try to make the athletic play because he tends to make mistakes when he does.
I see that!
I think the comparisons to Henny and Tanny are correct in some respects.
I think they were both coached to not make the big mistake!
Makes him tentative!
JMHO of course
Wyo, I don’t see the comparison with Henne and Tannehill at all. Ryan has had a much better career and has been way more productive. He’s a better athlete and he has a better arm. Henne never raised his game to another level. Tannehill did improve his game over his career despite what his critics say. The stats prove it. Winning records, making the playoffs and winning a playoff game etc. is what has been Tannehill’s albatross. He still has a chance at that. We’ll see. First he has to get healthy.
That’s what Gase has been trying to coach him to do. Trust your ability and wing it. He said that the first year he was HC. I agree with it to. When he plays confident and more aggressive and takes shots he plays better and the results are usually better.
Tim Knight says:
October 19, 2018 at 6:39 pm
Should we fill in the blanks? LOL
LOL. no I was using voice text when someone walked up on me and I didn’t notice it picked up him speaking. LOL
on the plane b FL. See you guys tomorrow
Tim Knight says:
October 19, 2018 at 8:34 pm
That’s all I can think of that they don’t think Osweiler will play well two weeks in a row. Other than that it makes no sense
Here is the sense as twisted as it is.
The Lions beat the Pats, the pats are better than the Dolphins thus the Lions are better than the Dolphins.
Yeah that’s asinine.
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didn’t post right. Nine donkeys
ass nine
window seat, Think I’ll nap.
Nogtih all
I think Tanny getting hurt while unfortunate; helps this team, I think that they may not have the trust in Osweiler to carry this team so they will depend on Gore more. in doing so they will learn that they need to use Gore in this fashion even when Tannehill comes back.
I agree Orob but I see that in today’s game you have to get into your run game by being productive in your pass game. When we produce in the passing game we’re better as a running team. Those stats will beer out too. Or our passing and what we had in week 4&5 will lead a coach to declare a player injured. Let’s just see if Coach was right. I think he might have been. Brocktober says he REALLY knows this offense. Show it muther fucker. It’s right now for Oswieller or never.
Tim I was just talking about the Coaches that each QB had when they were drafted!
WE have never had a coach like Gase!
Gotcha!
Son, i think just the opposite, you have to run to set up the pass, the opposing D will tend to play pass coverage with LBers deeper/2 deep safeties, less players in the box untill you make them respect the run. just like the pats did to us playing 7 DBs,
the pass is unpredictable you either gain big yardage or you get squat. but if you are able to run the ball effectively opposing D’s have no choice but to bring up help to stop it, otherwise you will run all over them, that’s when the passing lanes open up. JMO.
when Gore starts pounding the middle and picking up chunk yardage as he did against the Bears this opens up the defensive secondary, and with the likes of wilson and grants speed will lead to huge plays from them.
lbers up
David – You are the perfect socialist sheep — a bullfrog in boiling water. Governmental functions such as police, fire etc. are not socialist structures. They are just basic functions of government. Socialism is the antithesis of Americanism. Americanism is based in individualism, socialism in collectivism. Socialism is about enforced group think, central planning by a few elites, and central control. Socialism cannot exist without coercion and forced participation. Socialism has and will fail everywhere it is tried. It destroys economies, societies, and families. Instead of googling your thoughts, try reading a book. Start with F.A. Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom.” Study some history.
You can be a socialist and US citizen by virtue of being born here or naturalize get, but you cannot be an American and a socialist. And if you want socialism, pack your ass up and move to a socialist country. I’m sure that Cuba or Venezuela, or North Korea would be happy to have you.
Phelon you are ill informed ( a nice way of saying you don’t know what you’re talking about) you are confusing communism with socialism and mixing in a little bit of confusion about fascism as well.
I’m going to echo what Rock is saying albeit I will call it opinionated and not Ill-informed. I think you are blending communism and socialism
Denmark, Sweden, Ireland, Norway and a a few others are all socialist countries
I don’t think they seek to strip individualism from their citizens the way a place like a china classically did
Denmark for instance emphasizes equality which is also an American virtue
They try to apply that to income as well
They don’t have a lot of economic disparities
Is that right for the US?
I don’t really think it works so well for us but I will thinka we can use a shakeup in the way we spend tax dollars so that the average citizen is getting more bang for their buck
I just don’t think socialism is the wait in line for your ration s toilet paper some people make it out to be
It works for a lot of modern democracies and preserves the citizens individualism
Scandinavian countries are not socialist. That is a myth. They are capitalist countries with more progressive social programs than we have. They are what progressives in this country want us to be. Socialism is an economic system where “the people” own all businesses collectively via government as opposed to individual ownership.
Social programs does not mean socialism. Neither does infrastructure, education and civil servants.
Communism is a system where all property and business is publicly owned and people are paid due to their skill levels where the common good of the state is more important than individual freedom.
It’s really a game of semantics at some point
But I get your point
You are just highlighted by the distinction between socialism and communism – which was really my point
I don’t think you give up individualism by investing in social programs
I think transferrI guess property and the elimination of privately owned businesses and property is a whole different world
My dad was a history professor in my mother a Civics teacher and my family grew up with these arguments / discussions around the dinner table
Lol…apparently, like most kids, you didn’t listen.
Like it or not, big plays usually come through the air. This is now a passing league. What you would like is an effective running game. To be able to pick up short yardage. To be able to get reasonable yardage on first and second downs. To keep your offense ahead of the chains and on schedule. But, you need a QB who can make plays from the pocket. Both phases should compliment each other but this league will never go back to a running league. So, you better have a QB who can play well and take advantage of all the benefits the league gives to QBs and receivers. If you don’t, I don’t care how well you run the ball, you won’t be successful. You don’t score 30-35 points running the ball. Your running game doesn’t need to be great…just effective when you need it.
ocalarob says:
October 20, 2018 at 6:41 am
Son, i think just the opposite,
Rob you know that Son would think the opposite as well if ABT was behind Center
Can almost guarantee we see the same defensive formations this game as we did the Patriots so I’m sure a few questions will get answered. One of the most important ones will be, has gase learned a lesson and capable if adapting the game plan. Let’s hope so
Thanks to Doggy Toba and Son for hosting last nights get together. Great night to start the fest
Randy says:
October 20, 2018 at 10:16 am
…Both phases should compliment each other but this league will never go back to a running league…
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Agree that both phases should complement each other, but this league is constantly changing.
In theory, the passing league would make back-7 defenders smaller, quicker, and faster in order to keep up with aerial assaults… it’s happened, as predicted. Also happened as predicted, TEs would become bigger, faster, and stronger in order to take advantage of these smaller defenders.
The next thing that is happening as predicted? A resurgence in bigger, stronger RBs in order to take advantage of these smaller defenders. We’re also seeing more RBs being taken high in the Draft (Barkley was taken #2 overall just last year). The Jaguars have been ahead of the curve in this fashion, and they made it to the AFC Championship last year.
I sense the pendulum is beginning to swing back to a running league. No, it won’t ever be as it once was before the Super Bowl era, to be sure. However, I feel we’re going to see the next 2,000+ yard rusher soon. It’s all a matter of cause and effect, trends, strategies, and taking advantage of what’s there (or not there). JMO, of course.
Many teams use the pass mostly the short and medium passing game to set up the run. There are still a few teams that are more traditional who run to set up the pass, but I’d say that’s in the minority today.
Piggy, yes there is a big difference in social programs in a society that is for the benefit of all the people and the structure of state controlled economic system. Communism takes socialism to a more extreme level where the good of the state is more important than individual freedom on every level, not just economic. Like in China where they control all aspects of life; how many children you can have, what you can practice, where you can go etc. Centralized government control is the ultimate police state. We sure as hell don’t want that in America.
Wow, Omar really has a different view on this team than in years past. I’m posting his twitter as opposed to individual tweets. Check out his most recent tweets.
Not this tweet that comes up his first. The ones about the Dolphins. LOL
Lmao, I talked with some Desantis supporters in downtown Orlando today, and told them what I thought about Red Tide Rick, they were saying he’s good for the environment.
I reminded them FL is now blanketed with Red tide, blue green algae in okeechobee and south fl coastlines, brown tide in Indian river lagoon and sometimes southwest FL, of his decision to cut back red tide research and .cleanup. I told em fuck off Red Tid Rick, and others there were chanting red tide Rick red tide Rick, lol
The natives have had it with red tide and the other tides too, it’s making us sick and driving tourists away. Hotel at AMI was empty, I had the entire floor to myself. Think a hotel that’s 98 percent empty can make money?
The rules favor the passing game do much that you need to be able to take advantage of them. The league has decided that they are going to protect the QB at all costs, and it will only get worse?
The Lions are allowing a league leading 180 yards rushing per game on the road. I want to see a whole lot of Gore and Drake in this game. Maybe even Ballage.
Phel, it’s sad you can’t understand words like socialism, but You have proven Your ignorance on the subject here, so no need to call Me names behind my back like a coward.
The reason I can’t debate with You is you don’t know how to debate, and too falsely opiniated to try to comprehend hard truths. You allow fascist people to tell You how to think and respond, while I use independent thoughts and response. I worship God, not man, man always disappoints and deceives for selfish motives.
I find it sad at a so called serviceman would support a chickenhawk draft dodger who lies about everything and disrespects military and military families, but it does speak volumes as to what kind of person You admire.
You hate Me because You were brainwashed to hate other Americans, this is the division I speak of.
You won’t understand it, because You don’t want to understand, but others notice You are not informed or knowledgeable about socialism, so try a differant subject until You know something about that one.
, and also fuck You for personally attacking me with lies and stupidity. I wish my taxes that went for Your damn check were returned to Me, but that isn’t how socialism works is it? Lol. Your clueless bro, and by choice, You sucked Tinys lies up like truth, and kiss up to a hateful divisive chickenhawk draft dodger to be your commander in chief.
Fuck You Phel, and don’t ever expect Me to give You the time of day for Your ignorance and cowardice. You don’t even understand how and what the country is, yet You take the country’s money for Your paycheck, disgusting!
I don’t normally call people out in the room , but Phil earned My disrespect by his own choice,. I respect everyone here but Phel. I don’t respect him anymore after today. He doesn’t know me or the country, but feels empowered to spread lies and hate while blaming others, that is weak IMO
I didn’t come here to talk politics, but I did defend myself against a political liar and hack, it’s called social tax in my circles, and Phel had to pay up
Brah, he’s nothing more than a community agitator who flip-flops worse than John Kerry on most matters. Don’t let him get ya worked up, though I 100% understand sticking up for yourself against his attacks.
I’m ok, said my piece, and love ya brah for Your heart. Not many know You have a good heart, but I talked with You on the phone, and know You do. Rock on and enjoy a lion defeat, this will make us 5-2!
Thank you for that, David!!! ❤️
RIGHT back at you, sir!!!
I DO think most here know I have a good heart! And I’m here to same the EXACT SAME about you!
It’s just the political divide that keeps us all from full connect. RARELY (contrary to some haters) do I talk politics here. It’s best to just keep this a football blog, IMO. You and I are almost polar opposites when it comes to politics, but your heart is GOLD, Brah. I will NEVER dislike you, just because you think politically differently than I do. You are a GOOD man, MAN!
We best be careful or people will say, get a room guys, lmao
i just think You are very genuine, but Your biggest fault is not coming to a Fest, You know You don’t get a hall pass until You bring Your ass down here and party with everyone, lol
LOL, I’m secure in my hetero-sexuality… haters will hate! One of these years soon I’ll make it to a Fest, Brah!
Cheers, Brah!
I hope The Fest rocks, Dolphins win by 50, and everyone but One guy has a great time. I hope he breaks a fingernail or something and doesn’t have the best of times, lol jk
But seriously You guys have fun, Lions will melt in the heat like the bears did! 😎
Good stuff, thanks for the link!
What kind of pick should we expect from a former first rounder? I think a 6th round choice is already too much, but a 7th, yes.
If Parker had more and better film to look at,,,,
It all depends on what a trading team thinks of DeVante’s upside — which he DOES have, WHEN healthy — and if he can stay healthy.
I’m thinking we can get a 5th, for sure… but that’s just me.
I Think someone will want to take a chance on Parker, but everyone’s knows Fins screwed up using a first rounder , and they aren’t feeling charitable because Fins were foolish.
Most teams value and hoard picks, and try to make good solid trades too.
Sometimes We do this, but sometimes we make huge mistakes, and Parker was one.
Teams will be ruthless and stingy, because they can, and it’s wise for them to do it.
People want to brag to their boss they got a first rounder for a seventh, makes their job a little more secure huh
David, did you see my post about socialism and communism? On this I have to agree with Phish. Socialism and communism is the antithesis of The USA model of government.
I saw You’re comment that ended with we don’t want a police state in America, that one?
Yea, we sure as hell never want a police state, our rights will be almost totally gone at that point if it ever came to exist. I’ve personally witnessed some of the abuses of basic human rights in China, Russia, North Korea, and America too.
I’ve been to around 20 countries, and sad to report, people have to fight for their rights, Or they lose them. Governments around the world including ours, are selfish and greedy, and care little about people other than to exploit them for personal gain.
Well your last statement is about human greed. Governments are made up of humans.
David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
October 20, 2018 at 3:10 pm
I Think someone will want to take a chance on Parker, but everyone’s knows Fins screwed up using a first rounder , and they aren’t feeling charitable because Fins were foolish…
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I’ve gotta disagree with ya on that, David… that we screwed up using a first rounder on him. DeVante’s only problems have been injuries, which has set him back. And IF I’m not mistaken, DeVante didn’t need a screw in his foot until AFTER we’d drafted him. In other words, he was a VERY clean, injury-free pick when we selected him and it was at the time a GRAND draft pick.
Now in hindsight(?)… yeah, things don’t look so good… these things unfortunately happen. But when DeVante IS on the field and healthy, he’s been a STUD with highlight reel material to boot!
The biggest fear in a situation like this is that we give up on a talented player just a tad too early, only to trade (or cut) him to a team that reaps the benefits we drafted the player to be.
I’ll tell ya this… after 4 years of injuries, I’m ready to move on from DeVante. But allow the record to reflect that he was a VERY clean pick in the 1st round, who had all the makings of the next great WR. $#!t happens, unfortunately!
I agree we didn’t know about the injuries of the future, I just never thought he wasn’t what we needed, i didn’t think he was physical enough for the NFL with his slight build and non aggressive personality.
I was feeling Bud Dupree LB that draft, or a QB if there was one, there wasn’t, just Dupree
ALSO to keep in mind… Adam Gase’s regime didn’t draft DeVante. That was on Philbin and company. Thus, Gase has no ‘attachment’ to DeVante.
Right, I haven’t forgot, Gase says He has his guys now, so let’s go win games with the players that want to do what it takes to win games ,! We can still win the afc east, one game at a time
My father almost perished fighting the fascists when he was barely 18 year son old. He told me how evil fascism and nazis were, and the atrocities they committed.
He also told me about Pearl Barbour, and said it was the only way to get US involved in the war, we were isolationist, and didn’t want to join europes and Asia s war until europes and asias war came to Pearl Harbor .
He said the radar showed bogies, and the chain of communication on our part was broken, leading to senseless slaughter in Hawaii on December 7
I asked him, was Pearl Harbor a false flag? It could have been, we just wouldn’t have gotten involved without it’ and nobody is saying much about it.
I asked, were the nukes really necessary? My father the former American History teacher said the argument at that time was that the nukes saved a million lives Fin we had to invade Japan, but Japan was already in ruins and flame but those 2 cities. Japan was in the White House trying to surrender while nukes were dropping.
Ever since ww2, a lot to question, Kennedy assasination, Johnson, Vietnam, Nixon, and it never stops. People have to defend their basic human rights while we still have some.
Tim,
Why the phuck (<- LOL) do you keep making posts about politics, Bro (ie: socialism vs communism)? And ESPECIALLY after there was a HUGE spat between Phelon and David? That's not going to reconcile their ideologies, it's only going to throw more gas on the fire.
Look, I'm not trying to tell others what (and what not) to talk about, but this is only going to make matters worse… don't ya think?
Our Phins bring us here to discuss FOOSBALL… not to agree or disagree with philosophical/political matters. I mean… that's what the spirit of the FEST(!!!) is all about!!! BRINGING US ALL together… rather than separating via political BS.
Apologies… I should not have solely addressed this to my man Tim, but EVERYONE!!!
Sorry, Tim!
I answered Tim, and moving on, we good! I’m able to debate with Rim just fine, but I don’t want to throw anymore shade on the fest. You guys have a grand time, and enjoy it!
Not Rim, Tim, lmao damn autocorrect
Because it was being discussed by others before I got involved. I don’t have a problem with discussions about what the meanings of things are. Socialism and communism have clear meanings. It’s not debatable. Saying that conservatives are right and progressives are wrong is entirely different. That’s not what I’m doing here.
Prediction for tommorow? I say Miami 28, Lions 10
Or vice versa. Didn’t mean to suggest it’s just conservatives who say they are right and progressives are wrong.
We don’t have a no politics rule on this blog
But we have a no asshole rule
It’s okay to discuss politics but you just can’t be a dick about it
What Piggy said
I agree Piggy, and don’t wish to be combative. This was just the day I stood up for Myself against a political hack attack or whatever it was when I was when I was instead saying I was disappointed with Tannehill,s production. I don’t see how wanting more from a starting QB had anything at all to do with politics?
But somehow it did to someone, lol. Whatever
I’m not debating anyone on their own personal ideologies. I’m talking about what systems of government actually mean. People have a right to believe in what they want to believe in. Getting into heated arguments about partisan policies and politicians and then using personal insults is something completely different which is not what I am doing.
Capitalism means something.
Socialism means something.
Communism means something.
That’s not debatable. Which one is best for people is debatable. But I’m not getting into that. I have my beliefs but don’t feel the need to push it on anyone. My only statement even close to that is I don’t think a centralized government police state is good for anyone. I’ll just leave it at that. 🙂
Tim you asshole. Stop talking politics…lol
I’m just kidding with you. I think you get that. I like your insight. I just think you are wrong…lol.
You should be at the fest and be drinking g a beer with us.
What Piggy said again. Tim should be at the fest
I’ll go run out get some now and cheers to you all. Go Phins!!!! 🙂
We shouldn’t let politics divide us, we aren’t politicians anyway, lol
we are Dolphin fans and friends, and most blogs don’t meet up once a year, this one is genuine people and families coming together to enjoy the fest, most blogs never do that, they are just anonymous fonts posting back and forth
So should M13 and David be at the fest
Yes all of you guys should be here
But in Tim’s case he owes me like 12 beers so…
Also I want to know why David keeps calling people “Rim”? Do you guys have a fest of your own?
Lol thanks Piggy, I type Tim, and autocorrect screwed it up to Rim? and I didn’t see it til after I posted , sorry Rim, lol dammit,,,,Tim
I have a project in Orlando I have to finish up by Tuesday, , maybe next one
Ken, do You feel like We shouldnt come? I won’t blow up at your answer, just hope no bad feelings, I certainly don’t have any against You, I met You before and think Your a cool as hell guy from what I saw,, also You love food like Me, lol
David,
I think Ken was saying that you and MF13 should be at the Fest, like Tim should be. I think you read that wrong
Thanks, I was just asking, I can’t make it this time anyway
Exactly Bookman
We do have a no politics rule on game day, but otherwise we talk about what we want. Hopefully politely, but not always.
Rock – I spent a large part of my career in the intelligence field specializing in socialist and communist countries. I speak Russian and once upon a time Korean. I have traveled the world (haven’t been to Australia and large parts of South America, yet). So, as Piggy said I am certainly opinionated about socialism and America having served in the Corps for 20+ years, but ignorant of what socialism is I am not. I’m happy to debate most politics cordially, but frankly I have no tolerance for the idiocy of socialists.
Tim points out, correctly, the difference between socialism and social programs. To take it one step further, all of the Scandinavian countries mentioned are currently experiencing economic downturns and educational deficits because of their social programs. Ireland, Greece, and Italy went bankrupt because of their socialist leanings. Spain and France are heading there. Socialism does not work.
As for David and M – I’ll try to find a way to carry on with life knowing that they don’t like me and will never, ever, ever, never talk to me again.
David I think we all should be at the fest
I do too, and honestly I would even try to get along with Phel if he didn’t politically attack Me when I am disgusted with Ryan Tannehill,s performance .
I don’t want to hate anyone, life is too short for that and we should enjoy it, have fun at the fest everyone,
I hope to see you next year
Okay got me some beers so cheers folks!!! Go Phins!!!
And David, stop calling me Rim. LOL
Ok John, lol
And Phel, we were fine before today, I’m even game to reset and go back to that. You may think it strange I don’t hate You, but I don’t.
I feel my self defense was harsh but predictable in light of Your abusive comments,
but if You want to hate me for it, Your call and I respect Your call and I DID respect You before today. And even enjoyed chatting with You, I just can’t respect what You did earlier to Me bro, but I try to get past issues and move forward instead of wallow in past issues
David, I don’t hate you or anybody else that I can think of. Hate is reserved for enemies and some guy on a football fan board that I’ve never met doesn’t rise to the level of enemy. I don’t even think you’re really a socialist. I think you may identify as one, kind of like a transgender political view. Political dysmorphia. I do get a kick out of your Joycian rants though.
I told ya before I was independent. But this wasn’t about politics, was it.
I realize that You are a Tannehill fan and You tired of My negative comments towards him, and somehow turned that into a personal and political attack.
For My part,
I wish to move on,
And not bash RT for awhile, because the comments were never intended to agitate You, they were only frustration He isn’t our franchise QB I hoped for. Have fun at the fest,!
This is awful. My heart goes out Jermon and his wife. So sad.
Sad!!!!!!!
Very
You guys root loudly, we need this win, lol have a great time everyone, We will be watching at home , I’m out
Piggy – I don’t remember the “don’t be a dick’ part of the rule….was that the middle part?
I just saw where Gronk didn’t travel with the team to Chicago. Looks like Brady will be down a weapon. Hope Mack redeems himself against the Pats.
I saw that. Mack is hobbled tho with a bad ankle.
Amen!
Phelon, hope he is a quick healer, lol
M13, I know you’re happy about Penn State winning but, being from Indiana, I just feel so bad for IU. They play so hard and with a lot of heart game after game but just can’t get the big win. They always step on their own foot.
Fumble on the punt was a killer!
Yup, had momentum then shit a brick.
The Herd won today over FAU. I wonder if OD knows?
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!
Phelonius : we have you booked as a 2 on the shuttle. We are loading at Neptune at 0845 and Margaritaville at 09:00. Which are you closer to ???
Today was Bridge Day here in WV. They close traffic on the bridge over the gorge and let the BASE jumpers have at it.
A vote was taken and I was elected David you are a dick
Lol not always, it’s the red tide 😎
oh shit another vote has been taken I guess I am a dick and I should drink water wait not water
pheloniusphish says:
October 20, 2018 at 4:28 pm
…As for David and M – I’ll try to find a way to carry on with life knowing that they don’t like me and will never, ever, ever, never talk to me again.
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The ball is in your court, Bro. I WANT us to be good, but you make it a very difficult task in recent years. I’ll do you a solid, being I remember who you used to be: make it less difficult to get along with you (meaning, cut out your act), and I’ll make it FAR easier to get along with me.
I miss the old Phelon from the SS days… who once told me he was enjoying his evening with his wife while cooking lamb on the grill. That always stuck with me… and dare I say, I WISH I was you at that moment in your life. I’ve ALWAYS respected you, sir.
And yes… things have changed in my life, too. I need to try to get back to being the good ol’ M13 y’all fell in love with at the SS. Let’s get back to how it used to be… it was GREAT back then!
I’m willing to make an effort if you are willing to make an effort. Don’t take me so seriously on football opinions (that’s ALL they are!), and I won’t take myself so seriously on football opinions. And as you HAVE stated… if ANY of us were THAT good, we would be working in a front office in the NFL, rather than chatting on a fan blog… AGREED!
Toba made one hell of a funny tonight at D&B’s that will go down as one of the classic moments of a Fest. You had to be there to appreciate it. I’ll leave it at that 😎.
NICE!!!
I hope y’all are enjoying yourselves this evening! Don’t get TOO messed up, peeps… we need y’all to bring the ENERGY to the stadium tomorrow!!!
Well Bookman it looks like we both can concentrate on Fooseball now! 😦
MF13
Who the hell said we liked you back then?????????? 😉
Not counting the plusses, first timers among the board folks tonight were Naples, Phelon and Twice. Great folks…. awesome to put faces to names.
Tell everyone we said Hi, and also remember We expect You guys to rock the shit out of the stadium and root our guys to a win, anything less, don’t come back, lol. Jk
Party on guys, and give Phel a hug for Me lol.
Enjoy the Fest everyone! Seal it with a win!
GO FINS
GO MOB
Wishing I was at the Fest this weekend. It’seems the perfect unwind for me after tax season. Unfortunately, one grand baby born on 10/15 and another on 10/23 so the BD celebration is somewhere in between.
I definitely have to plan my vote in future years to get back there. I am missing/pining for it this year.
Go Dolphins!!!!!
We miss you buddy.
Game Day Bitches!
Now get up and get in the shuttle…
Wyoming,
Yeah…. it was a good run!
😦