2018 Season – Game 11 – Dolphins @ Colts

The author has decided to take a different approach this week.  It is, after all, Thanksgiving Week, and I’ve decided to look for things to be thankful for.  First off, our record is actually 5-5, and that’s not a bad place to be. It’s been an odd year in the NFL, with a handful of good to elite teams in each conference, followed by a lot of average to poor teams.  The Chiefs (9-2),  Steelers (7-2-1) and Texans (7-3) lead their divisions, but the Chiefs are the only team that is being challenged within their division, as the LA Chargers are in 2nd at (7-3).  Every other division leader is followed by a .500 team.  We’re one of em, as we trail the Patriots (7-3).  So there’s hope, right?

On paper this could be a tough matchup for us.  The Colts are flying high, and Andrew Luck is looking more like the Andrew Luck of old.  The Colts are putting up points, lots of them, scoring 29.8PPG.  That’s good for 5th in the NFL.   After 10 games, Luck already has 29 TD’s, and even more impressive, only 9 INT’s.  Impressive, considering he’s thrown the ball 400 times already.  The good news is, if there’s one thing we do well, it’s take the ball away on defense, especially in the passing game. In fact, which team is #1 in INT’s in the NFL?  Your very own Miami Dolphins!

The Colts have a running game, but their offense is all about Andrew Luck and the passing game.  I hope Frank Reich and OC Nick Sirianni decide to throw all day, I think we can make things difficult for them.  The Colts leading receiver is the super fast and diminutive T.Y. Hilton, with 585 yards and 6 TD’s on 38 receptions.  Right behind him has been TE Eric Ebron who came over from the Lions has really flourished in Indy.  Ebron is having a career year with Luck, 39 receptions for 463 yards and 9 TD’s.  Ebron had just 11 TD’s in his first 4 seasons with Detroit.  

The Colts running game, like most NFL teams these days, is a 3 headed attack.  Marlon Mack, who is finally healthy is the lead back, and he’s spelled by Jordan Wilkins.  Nyheim Hines is Luck’s receiving back.  While Mack has 471 yards rushing, Hines has 226 yards receiving.  Hopefully, we’re able to contain the backs, and although the passing game is where the Colts live and breathe, it’s where I think we can make things tough on them.

The biggest hole in my strategy is our lack of pass rush.  That, and the fact that Bobby McCain is questionable.  We will once again be forced to employ many different combinations of CB’s and safeties, and Minkah will likely reach a new high in snaps this week.  He’s got to be on the field, he’s bar none our best cover guy out there next to Xavien Howard.  Minkah has been better than Howard, but I give Howard his due, he’s been very good himself.  So Minkah will play LCB, SCB, FS, SS, LB, he probably shouldn’t come off the field unless he’s spent.

So where do we generate a pass rush?  Charles Harris is quite questionable, which means that Cam Wake and Robert Quinn are going to get a lot of snaps.  Cameron Malveaux is no longer a Dolphin, so depth wise it’s Andre Branch and Jonathan Woodard, unless Harris suits up.  Quinn and Wake need to have big days.  That’s it folks, if these guys can step it up, and hit Luck early and often, it could lead us to something special, a huge upset of the Colts.

Ryan Tannehill returns this week, and no, he’s not at 100%.  He needs to hunger for this.  He’s seen the team slip in his absence, he has to want to get in there and right the ship.  The good news is that Tunsil and James look to be good to go despite both of them nursing injuries.  Larsen is questionable, but Jake Brendel may not be such a bad consolation.  It seems like our whole team is questionable for this game, but I think they’ll all play, including Kenyan Drake, and possibly even Devante Parker.  I hope Tannehill seizes this day, and makes us a winner.  It would be a great story.  Maybe after this victory, it leads to more victories, and we have an improbably playoff run.  It has to start somewhere, and this is as good a place as any.

So back to Thanksgiving.  I’m thankful for the community we have here.  I haven’t met all of you here, still working on that, but I have met quite a few.  You’re a wonderful bunch, it’s been a pleasure to get know all of you, even the ones I haven’t yet met.  I hope you all enjoy this week with family, friends, whoever you spend it with.  It’s always been a holiday where I learn to appreciate my family, which keeps on growing.  A Dolphins upset win over the Colts would be a great dessert, wouldn’t it?

Happy Thanksgiving from Finsmobunleashed!!


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1,099 Responses to 2018 Season – Game 11 – Dolphins @ Colts

  1. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    The defense only gave up 20 pts if I dont count 1 play….wtf reasoning is this?

  2. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    We had too many procedural penalties again today. This offense is not good enough to overcome those things. We are still an undisciplined team. 24 points is almost a minimum to be competitive now. You can’t throw away possessions.

  3. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Why did we draft a long range kicker and punt from their 38-40 yard line ALL THE TIME?

  4. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – I understand full well that we were deep in their territory on that last drive, but I knew, I’m not a seer, or a prophet, but knew we lost the game right there. Think about this for a second. Who would you bet on with the game on the line, Andrew Luck or our defense? Run for no gain on 1st down, a screen pass for no gain on 2nd down and then a run for 4 on 3rd down. That’s a give up. You know how in baseball you play for a win on the road because the other team gets last licks? Same premise here. You give the ball back to one of the best QB’s in the NFL with enough time to beat you, he will beat you. By playing it safe on the last drive, he gave them the win, handed it to them. You have to throw the damn ball past the sticks, and all too often we don’t. That pass that Carroo caught for a TD was atrocious. A terrible rainbow that took forever, but you know what, it was fucking TD! Luck threw 2 INT’s on 2 deep passes, but who won the game? I’m so tired of this “safe” shit when “safe” means an L in the standings. People can say it’s lack of talent, I say it’s lack of balls by our head coach.

  5. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  6. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 25, 2018 at 9:55 pm
    I don’t have a facebook account
    ______
    then who was posting your words verbatim and has the same profile pics?

  7. we’re in a bad situation as fans. we don’t get to make decisions for the team and the team isn’t going to listen to us so the best we can do is hope and take it up the ass year after year when we’ve got a bunch of incompetent people running the team and incompetent coaches coaching the players and calling the plays on offense and defense.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I really like being a fan though, and fully understand can’t control what the team does. But for me that actually adds to the enjoyment of watching what happens. My Pirates had 20 straight losing seasons….still my team. Phins are my good team. So a joy to watch the 3-5 games go to each year (and 2-1 in the stadium in 2018).

      • All that matters is you’re happy. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. I have my own takes on things and so do others but your opinion is the only one that matters for you.

        So, if that’s what you like then that’s great. Some people don’t like chocolate ice cream. Others love it. As I got older I just decided that I wasn’t going to waste as much time and money on “my” teams as I did in the past. I live for other things now.

  8. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Son – it’s “safe” to punt, but if you miss a long FG, you give Luck a short a field to with, kinda like punting him to him at the end of the game after a pathetic 3 and out. I don’t want my coach to be doubting we can do something all the fucking time, I want him to go for it.

  9. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ha! I didn’t even see OD correct my spelling of except vs. accept. It was a simple typo. Now you know the rest of the story. LOL

    Yes Bat, it was a team loss. But when you’re up 24-14 on the road, the defense needs to step up. They basically made it easy for them to come back.

  10. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    SB, it’s probably his twitter posts that show up on FB they can all be linked

  11. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Bullshit is throwing out whatever you want to further your point.
    Especially when it isnt even necessary….

    • Quarterbacks like Brees and Rodgers get paid a lot of money to throw up balls and let their wr’s make plays like that. Tannehill isn’t Brees or Rodgers. When he throws up a ball like that everyone on the sidelines is putting their hands over their eyes and hoping it’s not intercepted. Rodgers and Brees have been doing that for years; successfully. Tannehill hasn’t. It was a great play by Carroo to go up and get that ball but Tannehill was lucky as shit it turned out that way.

      You want to call it throwing out whatever you want to make your point but if Tannehill was that capable of making things like that happen this team wouldn’t be 5-6 right now and we would have won that game today.

      Bullshit is not having the ability to accept the truth that Tannehill is NOT a franchise quarterback in the NFL.

  12. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Everything is relative. Talked to a guy from San Juan last week and asked him how bad did Maria hit you. He said, “I was real lucky…. only lost power for a month.”

  13. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Frank Gore understands the deal . . . He said this . . .

    “We didn’t finish,” Gore said in an expletive fueled rant. “S—. We’ve got to finish. That’s the key. Especially when they got a f—— guy over there that can get hot, who I respect, plays the game how it’s supposed to be played, the quarterback. Finishing, man.”

  14. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The points are already on the board. You can say all you want keep scoring like we’re some juggernaut offense, but we’re not. The defense has to rise to the occasion in that situation. That’s how I feel. Is that okay? We blew a 10 point lead on the road in the 4th quarter.

    • It was definitely a team loss. I can’t say it was on one side or the other. Sure, the offense could have converted more thirds and kept drives going and maybe if they just had one long drive to seal the game it would have been enough.

      Maybe if the D had one good stand against Luck we would have won the game. However, we lack talent at certain positions on the team and we lack talent at the coaching level.

      We have two 6th rd DT’s that our brass feels is the answer. We lack talent on the o-line, d-line, db and, worst of all, qb. So, yeah, it’s a team loss because we just don’t have what we need from a player perspective, a coaching perspective and a management perspective.

      Unfortunately, we’re just fans. So, the only thing we can do is talk about it but we can’t do anything to change it. And that………sucks.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      It’s OK Tim, I just don’t agree with it. You’re playing a team that scores nearly 30 points, and their offense is hot. Why give them the chance with their best unit on the field in their house to just take the game? Neither unit of our team is a juggernaut, but why bet on your defense against a great QB like Luck in his house? If he really trusts his QB, let him take a couple of legit shots on one of the last 2 drives to actually score ourselves? Our defense was OK today, they did more than I expected actually, but I knew as soon as wen’t into a shell on that last drive that we were going to punt and lose.

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    LOVE the diverse convo regarding our football play… that’s what we should be about!

    HATE the skunks on this board, trying to diss others for their opinions.

  16. On the brighter side, I believe that with our loss today and wins by 3 other teams we moved up like 3 spots in the draft and should be at #13 right now. So, there’s a silver lining.

  17. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Gore gets it. You try to finish the game. Go for the win. You don’t give Luck a chance to win the game. He’s a true franchise QB…and he’s probably gonna get it done. It felt like a total belly up move. I’d be pissed too if I was Gore.

  18. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Gase lost this game plain and simple. With 13 minutes left, we had a 10 point lead and all we had to do was stop Indy from scoring 3 times in 13 minutes. Up to this point, they had scored twice in 47 minutes and their next drive would take five of those 13 minutes away for a measly FG. Unfortunately, Gase thought it was time to save those minutes and we used 2.5 minutes out of the 13.

    We were getting about 5 yards a run and they usually use up about 40-45 seconds of time per run. 6 straight runs with no first downs would have eaten over 4 minutes of game-play alone but I know that might not have worked. Trying it the first series would have wore out their bad defense even more especially with the Colts needed to make quick strikes. Gase is an inept play-caller and he’s had Yes Men at the OC position since he started here. That’s the primary problem today at least.

  19. Just want to leave this here one last time. See: Adam Gase, Chicago Bears. If you saw what Gase did when he was in Chicago, there was no reason to believe he was going to make any kind of huge difference in Miami.

  20. D's avatar D says:

    Gase didn’t help the defense by running g time off the clock. He passed on first and we one downstairs with a lead in tg 4th quarter so you have to either put that on him or put it on Tanny audibling out of the run plays. I lean toward it being Gases calls but I might be wrong.

    Tanny doesn’t play well under pressure so putting it in his hands to close it out instead of Gore is re—- well you get the picture.

    OL had a pretty good game except the penalties which there were a few but not a crazy amount. Tanny played well for a couple of quarters but the bulk of his good passing plays were high percentage passes that got turned into big plays. Offense did look better though today than last couple of weeks.

    Defense had ups and downs. Looked real good at times but they also broke at times and though I do think think they should have been in the position they were in, we did need them to bow their backs and close the game out. It was a tough call because Luck is a true franchise guy who can lead his team back. Sucks to lose but honestly we played better than I expected so for me i was prepped for it I guess

  21. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We lose a game by 3 points on the road with all the injuries we have but it’s still Tannehill, Gase and Ross but not making tackles on defense is okey dokey! Oh… okay! LOL

    • D's avatar D says:

      If Gase runs the ball instead of passing we eat up clock and they do t get a chance to drive down and win. If Tanny complete those passes we get a first down extend the drive and they don’t get a chance to drive down and win. Defense being successful in stopping them is no more or less contributing than the offense failing to keep theirs off the field by doing their job to stay on it or score more points. You can’t dictate what people complain about when there are options to choose from and all are valid options.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        We scored a TD in the 4th qtr to make it 24-14 on the road. Can we make a stop on defense? Geez man, do you ever look at anything else but if Tannehill did this or that? Did you watch the game? Our defense gave up over 450 yards again. We stop nobody when it matters. We gave up 13 points in the 4th quarter because of horrible defense. But let’s make Tannehill the scapegoat. Seriously?!!!!

    • I’m sorry, but if a win is a win; a loss is a loss. No way to sugarcoat it. Doesn’t matter if you lose by 20 or you lose by 1, it’s a loss. There’s teams that have lost a bunch of games by small margins but they still had losing seasons. Doesn’t matter.

      You lose, you lose.

    • And, yes Tim, it is Gase and it is Ross and it is Tannehill. Go back and look at what the Chicago offense did with Gase as the OC and tell me this isn’t the exact same offense he ran when he was in Chicago that didn’t put points on the board with Cutler.

      Now he’s doing the same exact thing in Miami because he’s got the same type of quarterback who isn’t capable of putting the team on his back and pulling out a win and he showed that AGAIN yesterday. Tannehill did little to help this team win but keep thinking he isn’t a major part of the problem.

      But, at the same time, Gase is the guy who attached his wagon to Tannehill and made it sound like he could get it done. Ross is the guy who hired all the wrong people in all the wrong places and when he blew it up he didn’t do it the right way.

      If Ross blows it up right and gets rid of everyone and hires a competent GM like an Elito Wolf, George Paton, and I’m sure there’s a few others, and leaves them alone to hire a head coach and staff we will see the difference it makes.

  22. I’m still enjoying it for what it is. We lost yesterday and three other teams won and we moved up about 3 spots in the draft. So, in a matter of two weeks, we went from about 18th to around 13th and if we lose a couple more we may end up with a top ten pick. And that’s something we sorely need.

    If we get into the top ten we need to go for it and get our qb. Go get Grier or Herbert and put that position to rest already because we’re not winning consistently with an inconsistent quarterback. We can’t put the future of the franchise in the hands of a guy who’s been inconsistent his entire career and has been injured more in the past two years than he has played.

    There is no way we can look at another franchise and say “wouldn’t want to be them with their quarterback situation” because ours is no better.

  23. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    LOL…………… make a friggin stop on defense. Please stop with the doofus narrative. We had a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter and allowed 13 points in the 4th quarter. Just be honest and stop pointing fingers at the same people. The DEFENSE lost this friggin game! If only the offense did this or that. Yeah right, but the defense doesn’t have to do anything right? WTF!!!!?

    Go get your new shiny QB, if the defense keeps playing like this we’ll be 8-8 at best for a decade.

    • Tim,
      we all know the defense isn’t where it needs to be. I said before that we took two DT’s in the 6th rd two year ago and the brass thinks we’re good because of it. Our d-line situation is a shambles. We get no pass rush from our ends and we don’t get any pressure up the middle. We can’t stop the run.

      We all know that. It’s nothing new. But, at the same time, this is just one game and it’s a symptom; not the disease. The disease is the fact that we’ve got people making decisions who shouldn’t be so nothing is going to change until that changes.

      If we don’t solve those issues first it doesn’t matter that the defense couldn’t make a stop in the 4th qtr to win this game. We’re just going to keep having the same conversations over and over.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        You mean 2017 Godchaux in the 5th and Taylor in the 6th who was balling before going down for the season?

        The defense lost this game. They couldn’t make a stop at crucial times in the game – the 4th quarter. When you hold a team that is hot to 14 on the road for 3 quarters and allow 13 points in 10 minutes in the 4th quarter you did a bad job. I’m sorry I expect more from my defense. Our offense is a shell of what it once was. A 10 point lead is solid. No turnovers happened. Our defense shit the bed. AGAIN!!!!

    • And, the unfortunate part about it is we are just fans. Only thing we can do is watch it and hope for the best. I choose to hope for something completely different because, then, at least maybe we can “Browns” our way to becoming better if we’re not going to get better coaching and people in the front office.

    • Also, as far as QB goes, you gotta start somewhere and QB is a great place to start. Get your guy who can help the offense put points on the board. Look at the direction of the NFL at this point. Everything favors a passing offense.

      Look at the points teams are putting up. Defenses are having and extremely hard time trying to stop these lethal passing offenses that are out there.

      So, yes, a quarterback is what is needed. There’s no doubting that.

  24. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    GO FINS

  25. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    They are doing a soft rebuild right now, focusing on the 2020 off season, they stopped signing top shelf FAs, they are clearing the books and still trying to stay competitive.

  26. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    all players on this team will take no more than 5% of the cap in 2020 with the exception of Jones and maybe Tannehill, top 2019 fa signings should be James, hayes, gore and maybe wake.

    2020 FAs will be, Quinn, Branch, Sitton, Amendola Spence, Larsen, Howard, Aikens, Drake, Grant. we should definitely keep Howard and Grant, and maybe Drake.

    we will have had two drafts and should have a great cap situation in 2020,

  27. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    if we’re drafting a QB we should take either Grier or Haskims

  28. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I am fully committed to the re-re-re-build again. Adam Gase and his screen passes on first down and draw plays on 3rd and long needs to go. Our defense has talent, but the scheme sucks and cannot get off the field on 3rd down or stop the other team from scoring.

    Gase just needs to go.

  29. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Lost by 3 to a fairly good team on the road.
    And I at least thought having Tanny back a clear plus.
    Only thing that really stings me is how we lost.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I feel like that’s how Gase felt. Hey Tanny, you did a fine job today, no need to sully that by putting you on the spot now in these last 2 drives, we made it a close game, that’s all that matters. No reason not to give the ball back to Luck and let him beat us, we can still hold our heads up high.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      We get an INT on that last drive and would the convo be different today? I don’t know. But win or lose the conservative play calling bothered me. I was begging to just work to get a field goal the last two drives cause thought that was all we needed to ensure the V.

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        The punt from the 40 bothered me more than the last series….

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Not for me Stanger. At the risk of being extremely repetitive, you don’t go for the tie on the road. Granted, we had poor field position, but also because of that field position, playing it safe was the wrong move. You have to try and get that 1st down, and then if you do, try and win the game right there. Punting from deep in your own territory with 2:52 is precisely the formula to lose the game by handing it to Luck on a silver platter. Haack boomed a nice punt (62 yards), but it was returned 14 yards to the Colts 42. Inexcusable! All they need is a damn FG, just to get about 25 yards, and that’s how we’re gonna win the game? GTFO! That was the worst coaching ever. He ties himself to Tannehill, and then with the game on the line, ties his hands behind his back. Fuck that, I want a HC that wants to win games.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Mike E — well we both wanted them to go for it more. So we agree on that. I would have just been happy with the field goal (or in my mind get where you can kick the 3 and then go for more). Coach Hand and Coach Stanger would have done it differently, even if not exactly the same.

  30. Tim made a point earlier. The offense isn’t a juggernaut and I agree with that but that is why changes need to be made. We don’t score a lot of points and that is a major reason why we lose. Wouldn’t you rather an offense that can compete? I know I would.

  31. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Gase defends his position on not trusting Tannehill, and Tannehill agrees with Gase. That’s all wonderful, they can both agree with each other for a different team, because I want my QB to unequivocally want that football with a chance to win the game, and I want my HC to feel the same way. Both of them can go on their merry way!

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I completely agree with you, except for the go their merry way part. I wanted them to go for it up field bad. Was saying that before. And like ER brought up, especially when they were in midfield territory.

  32. Tim, you are not stopping other teams with two 6th rd DT’S.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      I don’t believe what round they were drafted in matters. More importantly is whether they are being used according to their skill sets. Are they being coached well? Does the scheme fit the players or are they hammering square pegs into round holes.

  33. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I think the team has enough talent to be competitive, if a little lacking in depth. I have issues with the play calling. It has been consistently poor and Gase shows no willingness to adapt. If he doesn’t change that over the next 5 games, I agree that he should be fired. Continuing to do what got them to this point while making excuses and refusing to try something else is arrogant and rigid. Gase has done nothing in his career to this point to allow that.

    That aside, I understand Bookman’s ire with those who only show up to make useless complaints about ownership and management and to say or imply I told you so after a loss. It’s one thing to discuss what went wrong, in our opinions, and a completely different thing to gloat because you were right once like a blind squirrel that occasionally finds a nut. Or just to constantly bitch and make up silly names for ownership like OD does.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I get it too Phelon, on the other hand, this blog is an open forum. Everyone is allowed their piece, whether anyone else agrees or not. If it bothers Bookman, he just needs to ignore those comments. I understand his frustration completely, but he knows as much as I do that we’re not going to block any of those people from doing what they do, so he has to make a choice, I hope he makes the right one, which is the one that makes him happy. Hopefully that means staying here and overlooking certain comments, but if it’s taking a break for a bit, that’s cool too.

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Nor should you block anyone. It’s easy enough not to read posts from people that you don’t want to read.

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Besides, I would be a candidate to be blocked since I like to antagonize people with over inflated egos and thin skin.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        LOL Phelon — one thing I like about you is the “you get what you see” factor. Just happy my over inflated ego comes with a real thick skin. 🙂

  34. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    We scored a TD in the 4th quarter?

  35. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I thought this game was fairly typical for this team. Nothing special. Did just enough to lose. Indy is not a really good team. I think they are pretty comparable to our team except for the QB position. I’m not surprised it was a close game. The bummer part is the game was there for us to win, and instead we found a way to lose. In a game in which we dominated the TO battle and blocked a FG. And yes…this is partly why I don’t like Tanny. He hasn’t and never will be the guy who wins games for you.

  36. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    MONDAY’S……. SHIT !!

  37. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Doggy – I’m as tired of shitty Monday’s as you are. How do we change it? Fire the HC? Cut the QB? Both? Shut down the blog? 🙂

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      I said last night the blog is almost the same no matter the outcome. So leave it.

      Cant cut the QB because there is nobody else on roster that is even mediocre.

      I’m ok with firing Gase, but I think that isnt the way to go. Let the season finish. I think there is more going on than the HC will publicly say.

  38. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I think we played a very good football game against a red-hot Colts team… but for the 4th quarter. And that’s the bitter pill we have to swallow today, knowing that we did just enough to lose the game, as Randy stated above.

    And if it weren’t for Carroo coming away with that very ill-advised throw by Tannehill (should have been INTed), Tanny would have finished the day with roughly 125 yards passing… that’s not good enough in this league. Heck, 200 yards passing isn’t good enough in this league.

    The dink-and-dink has got to go. Gase mismanaged yet another game. The Colts’ TOP was nearly 4 minutes more than ours, and our Defense wore down in the 4th quarter as a result.

    Gase’s seat just got a little warmer after yesterday’s game, but I still think Ross will retain him for another year, barring an ‘0-for’ the rest of the season. We’ll see…

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      I have to disagree about the Carroo TD. He was single covered and RT17 took a shot. Isnt that what hes supposed to do?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Perhaps I shouldn’t have said “very ill-advised throw”. But the fact of the matter is that it turned into a jump-ball situation, being Tannehill severely under-threw it. That should have been an automatic INT, or at least batted down by the Defender.

        Props to Carroo for making the play! That’s one he’ll NEVER forget!

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        I’m still OK with a jump ball…unless it’s to Parker. LOL

  39. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  40. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Adam Gase: Everyone looks at result and all the good things get forgotten

    “Gase also said he thought the team “shot ourselves in the foot too many times” and lamented the focus on the final score rather than things that went well earlier in the game.”

    Dude doesn’t get it. The game is about winning or losing. The focus is always going to be on the final score. Nothing else matters.

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    ER – I didn’t mean this season, but going forward in the off season. I’d like to see a little more Sean Payton in Gase, and I understand he doesn’t have Drew Brees, but if Gase really believes in his QB, he’s gotta run with him, and can’t handcuff him, for better or worse.

  42. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 26, 2018 at 11:10 am
    Tim made a point earlier. The offense isn’t a juggernaut and I agree with that but that is why changes need to be made
    ___________________________________________

    You can’t make changes over night, it takes years, first you have to dump all your over the hill high priced FAs, then you have to eat their dead money and sign replacements that will end about the same time you get out of cap hell.

    it’s easy to sit back and armchair this thing without realizing what this team is truly up against.

    that said if it wasn’t for all the injuries i believe we would have contended this year

  43. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    ocalarob says:
    November 26, 2018 at 8:28 am
    if we’re drafting a QB we should take either Grier or Haskims

    Reply
    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 26, 2018 at 8:39 am
    Or Herbert
    ___________________________________________

    His completion % is in the 50s, seems like fools gold to me, another Sam Darnold

  44. D's avatar D says:

    ocalarob says:
    November 26, 2018 at 8:28 am

    if we’re drafting a QB we should take either Grier or Haskims
    ————————————–
    Haskins is going to bust just like all the other Ohio State QB’s of the Urban Myer era. I dont want that guy at all. I wouldnt take him as a potential backup.

    • D's avatar D says:

      As much as i like Grier, i wouldnt take him as my only QB pick. I think we need to double up and hope competition between the two will rally bring great out of one of them. Lock and Grier, or Jones and Grier would be good pairs.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      69% completion percentage, he’s on target, have you watched him play? he destroyed Michigan. he fires the ball has mobility, he reminds me of Dan Marino the way he passes.

      I think he’ll be great in the pro’s whomever gets him.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I have watched him, i dont see it. Comp percentage in college isnt as important as watching his passes and seeing if he is in stride witht he receiver and his accuracy is pin point. Catch radius in college is like the broad side of a barn, only if you cant hit it do you stand out. I dont think Urban does a good job of getting QB’s ready for the NFL, so i just dont think they guy winds up a good pro.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        The hardest part of playing QB is accuracy, if i’m drafting a QB that is my number one concern. all the college QBs are judged by the same standard so Haskims is leading in the accuracy dept as far as i’m concerned. he has pin point accuracy….the rest is easy by comparison, look at Darnold he had a piss poor accuracy rating and oh by the way he leads the NFL in picks, and he was taken with the 3rd pick LOL!

  45. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    liked the changes gase made last year dumping pouncey, suh and landry, bringing in wilson ,
    amendola to go along with Grant and stills, bringing in Sitton and Kilgore . not too sure about gesicki but smythe seems to be a good choice.

    It just didnt pan out this year due to injuries but it looks as if it’s a good core of players.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I wasnt initially a fan of all those moves, but ultimately i think it was time to make them and start shedding really high number contracts. He still has to prove his money ball strategy works though. I think Wilson and Amendola both have proven it. Kilgore didnt, but that was because of injury. Our DT situation is a good bit worse, but we are thin there too, so we never really got to see how that rotation thing would have worked out. Still we arent really “missing” any of those players.

  46. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Grier is another player with a high comp%, if he’s there when projected take him!

    • D's avatar D says:

      Rob, one of the things im saying is you cant account for the misses that go against you in comp percentage as being bad throws. You could have bad receivers, or really good ones. The system could be set up to go for a lot of high percentage passes or it could be set up to take deep shots a lot. You cant account for the talent at DB that you go up against, completing 90% of passes agauinst a shitty DB group isnt that impressive as any JAG could do it. Again, im not debating that accuracy isnt important, i just think comp[ percentage isnt all about accuracy.

      • D's avatar D says:

        The scouts though they know the difference because they watch the film, so i trust them to know well enough if they feel the QB is good enough to draft. My evaluation of Haskins comes with some bias against OSU QB’s but i also dont see anything differently that he looks like than did Barrett, Jones, or Miller.

  47. D's avatar D says:

    Right now my three favorite QB’s are Lock, who has big arm talent and elite potential, Jones who i think is most pro-ready of any of this class and good high end potential, i could see him being a day 1 starter and Grier, who i think still lacks a little refinement, but if he reaches his potential he could be on Hebert or Lock’s level. Ill admit i am holding Urban Meyer product, against Haskins, but i also just dont see anything to think he would break the mold of that Ohio State QB who is a amazing athlete but just not a true pro QB. I think Finley and Thorson are good game manager QB’s with slightly more to them if they develop, but thats not what im hoping we go for. I use to think Stidham and Patterson might be decent later round flyer material but i dont know recently they seem like wasted potential just waiting to happen.

  48. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    TOUCHDOWN!!! Nasa just successfully landed “InSight” on Mars!!!

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Pretty incredible first pictures just coming in…

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Pretty sure this is the first ever ‘controlled landing’ on Mars, as opposed to dropping via ‘bubble-wrap’ (see the rovers of the past). Incredible feat of human ingenuity.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Did you know that Earth is the only non-greek/roman god named planet? Did you know that the reason for this is that when looking to the skys the planets were identified and named because they were though to be the Gods in their Celestial homes and thats why Earth was no given such a name because no one was gazing up at Earth. Instead Earth was the ground beneath our feet and therefore was given the name Earth or Erde which is germanic for “ground”. Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus and Mercury were the only planets identified when the naming began and it wasnt until telescopes were invented that people discoverd/named the rest, but as they were discovered the people who named them opted to keep the tradition of naming them after Greeak and Roman Gods.

  49. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  50. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Maybe we should have NASA find our next QB, being they know how to throw TDs from Earth to Mars. 😉

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      LOL

      Think they’ll find anything in the dig? I don’t. Gotta go deeper I think. But sure is cool to find out.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Its a starting point. Science happens in stages, with a lot of failure pushing you to go further.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Just going by memory here, I think the InSight is equipped with drilling tools to go DEEP under the Martian soil to find water. Ya know, kind of like digging here to drill a water well. I DO think we’re going to find water there. What’s more, the latest tech aboard the InSight will be able to carbon date that which it drills.

        The coolest thing? InSight is equipped with seismometers. It’s function is to record any and all aerial bombardments on Mars. We’ll be able to learn more about Mars’ very thin atmosphere, the way our own atmosphere protects us from such bombardments (a comparison tool, if you will), and just exactly how often we (Earth and Mars, collectively) see as much.

        This is incredible stuff!!! 😀

  51. O rob,
    I’ve watched Herbert play. He throws a lot of lower % passes, a lot of deeper stuff, thus the lower comp %. However, he’s very accurate when he throws the ball. A lot more accurate than what we’ve got right now. I’ve seen him lay the ball over a defenders head to the outside shoulder of a wr on the sideline plenty of times and place it in there perfectly. So, the comp % isn’t really a concern of mine.

    Grier would be my top choice because I think he’s the most pro-ready of them all. Herbert, however, could end up being that generational talent with the right coaching.

    Lock is going to struggle big time at the next level. He was in a Baylor offense the past two years that didn’t require any reads or progressions. It was just get the ball from center and throw it to your first target and that’s it. Since bringing in Derek Dooley and changing to a pro style offense that requires him to make reads and progressions he’s struggled a lot to make the adjustment and has had trouble getting it down.

    I like Haskins as well and the one thing about him I don’t know if many know is that he knows how to read a D very well and is very good going thru progressions. I’d like to see him stay one more year because he is kind of a one year wonder even with all those td’s.

    My sleeper. David Blough of Purdue. Doesn’t have the big numbers but you watch his compact throwing motion and his accuracy, his mobility, arm strength (he throws a lot from the far hash across the field) and he’s smart. Jeff Brohm trusts him with the offense.

  52. Rob,
    It’s not about making changes overnight. This team needed to make changes 3 years ago and they didn’t do it. And, the major change I’m referring to is the change at qb. We’ve got plenty of playmakers on the offensive side of the ball but we don’t have the quarterback who can get the ball to them so they can make plays like they’re supposed to.

    That’s the biggest thing holding back our O. We need to put up more points to compete. That’s the way today’s NFL is going and the people running this team should have seen that because they were well aware of the rule changes far enough in advance to make that change.

    innovate or die. that’s what it’s like in any business. Looks at Toys R Us, Sears, Kmart, BonTon and others that didn’t innovate and are now gone or almost gone. Football is a business. You need to innovate to survive. There’s teams that did and are putting points up like crazy.

    And look at the Rams with the great Suh and Donald on their d-line and they can’t do anything to stop it. Thing is, Phins aren’t innovators. They are followers. They’re always catching up to the league.

  53. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    not too sure about gesicki but smythe seems to be a good choice.
    So far Smythe seems to be the better pick, but it is early yet. We have a least gotten more production out of Smythe than we have Gheysucki.

    We SHOULD have gone with Goedert he was always the better prospect IMO

  54. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    M

    Thought they were only drilling 16ft. Either way…its cool

    • D's avatar D says:

      I think they probably expcet to drill to a certain depth, but since this is the first time, how would they know what to expect. It might get down 3or 4 ft below the surface and hit a material they cant drill through. Again, this is breaking new ground (no pun intended) success is just learning something you didnt know before not necessarily hitting pay dirt on the first go.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      You may be right on 16 feet, my Brother… I was quoting from memory on that one point (as I noted). But HELL YEAH, it’s cool!!! 😀

  55. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I did want to comment on the Gesicki fumble yesterday. I’m sorry, but IMO, he did not possess the ball long enough to call it a fumble. I’m not sure he actually demonstrated a “football move” (as the announcers had said), and I’m not sure he really had the ball long enough to demonstrate “possession”. It was such a ‘bang-bang’ play that should have been ruled an incompletion.

  56. D's avatar D says:

    To me almost anything i see where we as a society are learning something that before we didnt know, and on a personal level when i get a chance to learn something i didnt know previously, those are the cool things in life. It also doesnt have to be new scientific discoveries it can be historical discoveries that maybe fill in a blank or two that we had in the history books or even insert new pages into the books that we didnt even know were missing. I find all that really neat stuff.

  57. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    —————
    Our Defense played HARD yesterday.

  58. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  59. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The probe on the InSight is only designed to go 5 meters deep. (16’4″) It is designed to study the “deep” martian crust, but it will do so with electronics, etc.

  60. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    D

    I wasnt downplaying it. It just seems so lackluster…16ft…..

    Considering they cant even explore our own planet fully, 16ft is huge! LOL

    I’m just poking fun, fyi. 🙂

  61. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Goedert – 3 TD’s
    Gesicki – 3 TO’s

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Gesicki is soft. He will benefit greatly with his first offseason. He seems to have a good attitude and a worker, so I think he’ll be pretty good with a little time.

  62. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    professorlou miamidolphinsblog says:
    November 26, 2018 at 4:07 pm
    no such thing as a “scientific discovery”. Science has never “discovered” anything that hasn’t already existed.

    ———————————————————————————————————————————–
    Science has discovered many things.

    CRISPR (clustered regularly interspaced short palindromic repeat)/Cas9 didn’t exist before scientist developed it.
    The internal combustion engine didn’t exist until it was invented
    And on and on

  63. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Kenyan Drake says Dolphins need to do a better job finishing games [43 minutes ago] [Open in Separate Window]

    Yeah, you need to do a better job starting them too!

  64. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – Leave the kid alone!

  65. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – Is that right, Ducky Boys were real?

  66. If you disagree with the playcalling of Gase yesterday imagine being a Giants fan watching Barkley standing on the sideline most of the 2nd half after having such a great 1st half

  67. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Driskel will start for Cincy as Dalton goes on IR making him the second Oviedo,FL Quarterback who will be starting on Sunday. Both played in these last games but Dalton started. Driskel is from Hagerty HS and Bortles went to Oviedo HS.

    But it’s our college QB Milton who we are all saddened by. A source tells me it’s a not a career ending injury it was a bad dislocation and emergency surgery was necessary because of restricted blood flow. He might be back for his senior season.

  68. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Marino wouldn’t have handed it off. He laughs in the huddle and calls a pass play.

  69. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Miller goes for 97 what a run

  70. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    He did that with us once wasn’t it against the Texans ? The Fest game in the rain?

  71. So, just to satisfy my curiosity, is there still anyone remaining who thinks Tannehill should continue to get more chances or is everyone in agreement it’s time to move on?

  72. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 26, 2018 at 8:09 pm
    the internal combustion engine wasn’t invented by scientists.

    ————————

    Science, not scientist. The internal combustion engine is an almagation of scientific theory put together by an inventor.

  73. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Gase says Tannehill’s the man, but even if he didn’t think that he certainly wouldn’t reveal that. Tannehill is the property of the Miami Dolphins and you want to make that property valuable.

    I really think Tannehill will be the starting QB next september, No drafted rookie will come in and replace him and i certainly don’t see the fins hitting the FA market for a QB unless of course it’s a back-up.

    so yes Lou you better get use to Tannehill because he will be here in 2019 barring injury.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      He will be and we’ll hear for the entire off-season what a great leader he is. Then we’ll win 6 or 7 games and every one will say whoopie

  74. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    and if Gase really believes in Tannehill we will find out in March, i would assume they may renegotiate Tannehills contract, maybe another 3 year extension to save cap space next year.

    if they dont and let him play out his last year and Draft that QB savior that everyone wants; that should be a clear sign that they are moving on from tannehill.

    so we should find out the long term plans for miami and Thill at the beginning of March.

  75. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    For me i don’t think the loss at Indy is all on Tannehill, the defense got shelled, they were getting killed in the running game

  76. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Amalgamation?

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Lol…yes that too. Spelling for Marines…I don’t even know what I was thinking while typing.

      • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

        By Lol, I read it as it should be and was ready to give you major props for a ten dollar word then I looked closer…

  77. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Amalgamation
    Alex, who is the Miami Dolphins offensive line?

  78. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Must be bedtime. Lights out.

  79. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Funny how your mind can make you see what a word should be rather than what it is.

  80. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Nevermind my earlier post Bortles is getting benched

  81. After seeing the way some rookies play and see how ineffective the Phins offense is with Tannehill under center it boggles the mind to think that no rookie could possibly replace Tannehill. That’s not true, because it happens. Plus, there’s always the possibility Tannehill suffers another injury. There would be absolutely no excuse to go into next season with Tannehill as the starter and nobody else on the roster or to even give Tannehill another chance.

    That would just be complete and total incompetence on the part of ownership and management. This “setting up for 2020” is also a ridiculous concept because if they end up high enough in the draft at the end of this year you’ve got to pull the trigger. You don’t know where you’ll be in draft order next year and moving up to get a quarterback could cost you a fortune to do so. And I know some are advocating to wait for Tua but, again, if you don’t have the draft capital or it’s going to cost you way too much to move up, then you either reach for a lesser player or you screw up your future by using up a ton of picks.

    So, the concept of waiting until 2020 is a ridiculous one.

  82. I still can’t believe this team has wasted 7 years on a quarterback who I knew wouldn’t get it done when they drafted him. If an average fan could see that this guy would never come around then why couldn’t the people who run the show in this organization?

    However, there is light at the end of the tunnel. If Gase felt Tannehill couldn’t get it done for him and seal the victory late in the game Sunday then you know they’re going to do something in the offseason to solidify the qb position.

    They have to. And the concept of there not being a rookie who can beat him out is just a poor argument. Other teams have been drafting quarterbacks since 2012 who have surpassed Tannehill and there’s no rookie who can beat him out. He’s not that good. I don’t know what some still see in this guy but they need to cut the cord because he was just another in a long line of wasted draft picks by this franchise.

    Whether they cut or trade him he’s doing nothing with any other team.

  83. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Do you guys remember when Ryan Tannehill set the record that Philip Rivers just tied over 2 games

    This is before Gase

    Offense looks better before Gase if you ask me.

  84. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy – This is why I go back and forth on RT. When the game plan calls for it, he can get it done. So is it the chicken or the egg? Play calling or play execution? I’m on the play calling boat. I’ve never liked the Wr screens and 3 yard passes. And I hate playing not to lose. I thought Gase was going to be an innovative, offensive minded coach, but he’s really not. He doesn’t scheme upcoming opponents, doesn’t make in game adjustments, and afraid to take any chances. He thinks throwing a 1-yard pass on 3rd and 2 is taking a chance.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      RT has had some. Laments where it looks like he is almost there

      But some of his big issues haven’t gotten better and I think we are too deep into his career to expect that to change

      But the point pof the videos is Gase
      It looks to me like our offense has regressed

      He’s not a great offensive coach
      His offense is predictable and doesn’t really use the field

  85. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    even if we draft a great QB to replace tannehill he wont have enough time to learn the system that tanny has been playing since gase got here. you wont pay tanny 26 mil and not start him.

    also tannehill isn’t as bad as some suggest, it wouldn’t surprise me to see another 3 year deal worked out for tanny in the beginning of march.

    Ross likes tannehill, said he’s a clean cut guy a leader on and off the field.

    one of the reasons philbin got fired was he didn’t like tannehill.

    Ross has Tannys back

  86. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    if your gase do you draft a qb early? maybe with the first round pick or do you add depth to other areas?
    for me i really cant see him drafting a QB, he seems to like his pet projects in Fales…Oz… falk…even worked out Paxton Lynch.
    not to mention didn’t he have 4 QBs on the roster at one point?
    he seems to think he can take some of these failed QBs like OZ or Lynch and resurrect them.

    so why would he use a valuable first round draft pick on a QB when he has issues at other areas??

  87. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If we kept Gase and didn’t draft a QB high in 2019

    There would be no reason to watch

  88. Tannehill is finished. Stick a fork in him. They’re not restructuring a contract and giving him bonus money with the possibility he gets hurt again and then is out for another season.
    Best thing to do is cut bait, draft two qb’s and keep one vet. Falk sucks.

  89. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I have resigned myself to another failed season next year already. I believe that Gase is the problem with the offense. It doesn’t take a superstar 1st round QB to throw bubble screens and dump off passes to RB’s all day. When Gase gets the axe next December hopefully Tannenbaum will be out the door right before or after him. Let the new HC / GM draft his QB. If Gase winds up drafting one next year, it won’t save his job and the new HC will want to pick his guy anyway. Sigh….I’m tired of being a Miami fan.

    • Tannehill can’t make the other throws. If he could he would be doing it. What kind of offense did the have in Denver? Manning made those throws. He wasn’t limited. Tannehill isn’t making those throws because he can’t do it consistently. If he throws too much in the middle of the field it will be a disaster.

  90. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E,

  91. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Shit, brain fart. Mike E “quoted” the Wanderers and I was thinking of the Warriors. Both movies feature gangs in the Bronx and were both released 1979. My bad.

  92. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Loved both movies. Heard Boomer take a shot at Gase this morning regarding the last series against Indy, said Gase was playing pussy football. Loved It!

  93. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Since both movies came up — The Wongs would kick the shit out of those Fing wimps the Baseball Furies.

  94. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Emilio, Perry’s dad would kick the shit out of anyone!

  95. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL – exactly!

  96. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Cameron Malveaux poached by the Cardinals

  97. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Did you ever think that maybe Gase runs the offense he believes Tanny is able to operate? For instance, Tanny has never used the middle of the field. In his whole career, he does not throw passes down the middle. He throws outside the hash marks all the time. Maybe it’s because he shows in practice that he can’t. Maybe he has him throw easy, first read passes because Tanny struggles doing otherwise. Just sayin’.

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