2018 Season – Game 13 – Patriots @ Dolphins

The big bad Patriots come into town this week, ranked in the top 5 by many sources, and top 3 by some.  The Patriots have improved on defense each week, and at 9-3, they have a comfortable lead in the AFC East.  On the other hand, the Dolphins are still alive for a wildcard berth in the playoffs as we are the #7 seed in the AFC at the moment.  Time for some payback fellas!  The Patriots demolished the Dolphins up in Foxborough,  now it’s our turn to take one at home.

We were a different team last time we played the Patriots.  We had all of our small, speedy receivers like Albert Wilson, Jakeem Grant and Danny Amendola.  This time, Wilson and Grant are both on I/R, and Amendola who was inactive against the Bills is still nursing a knee injury, so the Patriots will be seeing a different Miami offense.  It’s time for the young dog (Gase) to teach the old dog (Belichick) a lesson.  Belichick easily neutralized or smaller receivers lining up in the nickel and dime formations and not allowing them any space on screens and short passes, and we had no answer.  I’d like to see Gase find answers this week.  The Patriots had the ball for just over 36 minutes, but managed 449 yards of offense.  RB Sony Michel carried 25 times for 112 yards and Brady spread the ball around to numerous receivers.

The Dolphins need to hold on to the ball in this game.  TE A.J. Derby was put on I/R (join the club!), but we still have 3 TE’s, and I think it’s time to use them.  We haven’t featured many 3 TE sets, and we surely haven’t featured Mike Gesicki.  Let’s get O’Leary and Smythe out there as extra blockers and run the ball down their throats.  Who knows, if we run the ball well, maybe Gesicki or Smythe or O’Leary sneak out for a big reception.  We don’t have to open this way either, just have a few wrinkles the Patriots haven’t seen, in other words, don’t be so conventional.  We know the Patriots will likely out execute most teams, but if you give something they don’t expect, maybe you get results.

This past week against the Bills, I saw some things I really liked.  First of all, it may have been my favorite game this season because it looked to me like Gase took the training wheels off of QB Ryan Tannehill.  Tannehill rewarded his HC with one of his best games and the win.  If Amendola can’t go, we’re likely to see Stills, Parker, Butler, Carroo and Isaiah Ford at WR.  That’s a lot more size than the last time we faced them.  The Patriots do have 2 “big” CB’s in McCourty and Gilmore, both 6 feet.  I think this is a game where we need to out-physical the Patriots and and also outsmart them.  Not an easy task with the Evil Emperor stalking the Patriots sidelines, a veteran of many intergalactic takeovers.  We have 3 running backs, I hope we use them all.  Run Gore with 2 or 3 TE’s and impose our will.  Tire them out some and put Drake in to break one or beat a LB in coverage.  Let Ballage get some carries, and please, please find a way to pick up a 3rd and short.  I think the big issue there is we really have no reliable interior OL to get some room, and that definitely is a hindrance.  Heck, get Asiata in there for one of those plays, he’ll be fresh and all he has to do is get some push.  Put him in as a FB, create a small package of plays for him, make it happen!

The stats don’t give us much of a chance, the Patriots are scoring nearly 28 PPG, allowing only 21.6 PPG.  We’re scoring only 20.3 PPG, and allowing 25 PPG.  So what, all that goes in the trash when the teams hit the field.  O’Leary must be thrilled he got a 1 YR extension, but that kid plays hard, and everyone else on this team needs to do the same.  Tannehill played tough last week, he got hit on what seemed like every other throw, and yet he played very well, one of his best.  Build on that.  Let Tannehill continue to throw the ball downfield, and try and exploit certain matchups.  Don’t  be complacent, and please don’t go in there and be cautious and revert back to that lame bubble screen offense, I swear I might blow a gasket if we do.  The Patriots need to keep pace for home field, they currently trail the Chiefs who are 10-2, and are tied with the Texans at 9-3.  They need this game, but I’d like to show them we need it more.  Go get ’em Dolphins!  Statement game!

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811 Responses to 2018 Season – Game 13 – Patriots @ Dolphins

  1. stangerx says:

    Real nice article Mike E — but man are we like mirror image fans. When you are down, I am “all is well” (yeah that is Kevin Bacon from Animal House). Now when am assuming we will lose…… you present how we can beat them. Love it though!

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks! Trying to keep you all off balance. 🙂 We have given them a tough time in MIA, this one is a bit different. Last season, Patriots had a clearer path, not that they didn’t want to win, but it wasn’t as important. Now the Patriots are behind for home field, so they really want this, that’s their best path to another SB, to make teams go through them at home. Regardless, we should be able to devise a game plan to be competitive in this game, and and we should try and be the more physical team.

  2. son of a son of a shula says:

    If we can get another 137 yards out of Tannehill we should be good.

    Statement Game!

    Good job Mike

  3. D says:

    stangerx says:
    December 5, 2018 at 10:33 am

    Real nice article Mike E — but man are we like mirror image fans. When you are down, I am “all is well” (yeah that is Kevin Bacon from Animal House). Now when am assuming we will lose…… you present how we can beat them. Love it though!
    Even if you think that a loss is eminent, you can still muse how it could go the other way, because “any given Sunday”. I never think we cant beat another team, i just know some teams always show up prepared and they arent likely to be off their game. If the Pats play like they normally do, then we would still have to play a good game even if we didnt have the injuries, etc. Home field advantage helps, not being in the cold helps, but we still would have to play pretty close to perfect to beat them.

    The offense isnt great but it more effective with Tanny at the helm, but i dont really think “letting Tanny loose” will be the reason we win or lose. I think its more of turning up the volume on the whole offense. Run sweeps until they are gassed, then load up misdirection roll out passes, fake the pitch on the sweep and naked bootleg to the opposite side and his a deep pass. Tanny has always been better on the move. When they start biting on those plays hit them with a reverse or counter runs. We have the tools on offense to be potent, even as depleted as we are, we just need to be creative with the playcalling to get those guys their opportunities to turn in big plays.

    • stangerx says:

      We all saw the first game, but then as Mike E pointed out….. different team now. They quashed our little speedsters that won the first three games with like every small guy they had with a good 40 time. If we do win….. the only speedster left will have a huge game. That’s Drake, but probably only after Gase gasses them out.

      • Mike E. says:

        We have Stills too . . .

      • stangerx says:

        True. Guess I forgot about him when learned he couldn’t pass to himself. 🙂
        But he don’t have that juke in him. So maybe just not about speed, even if he can run any CB out of the play for sure.

  4. Mike E. says:

    It’s not that he threw for 300 + yards, last week Russell Wilson threw for 185 yards. Who cares how many yards? Both Wilson and Tannehill threw the ball downfield and scored TD’s, rather than those freaking bubble screens and 5-10 yard passes. That’s all I’m sayin’ guys, the yardage means crap, it’s the scores that count.

    • D says:

      Low yardage though usually tell the tale of good field position or other components of the offense working well. It basically means we won without needing a big game out of the QB. The three TD was great, but that actually shows you that the running game and ST’s contributed a whole lot too. Im not dissing his performance, he didn’t lose the game, and with the type of QB he is, thats what you hope to expect from him. Im just saying Tanny wasnt “let loose” with those stats, its sound more like our offense just was effective making plays when we had to. Ill go back and check, but im pretty sure we never had a drive more than 70ish yards and we picked up a good percentage of our third downs.

  5. Mike E. says:

    How bout this throw to Parker?

    • Mike E. says:

      Obviously, it’s the bottom video. F that guy for making fun of Gesicki. He’s awesome! At least I hope next year he will be. WTF!

  6. D says:

    Actually looking at those stats im not sure how we won, other than that muff punt turnover lol. We had only 15 total first downs, and we were 2-9 in third down conversions. Total yards of 175….jesus. Our TOP was pretty decent, but theirs was better.

    TOP 33mins Them, 27mins Us…
    Total Yards 415 Them, 175 Us… WTF
    Yards per play 6.3 Them, 3.5 Us…..WTF
    Total first downs: 24 Them 15 Us…..

    Here is where we won.
    Turnovers: 3 Them, 1 Us…….The muffed punt recovery was probably the real reason we won, as that yielded a TD for us, which is the margin of victory.

    • Mike E. says:

      And 2 big TD throws, one to Parker, one to Stills that we freaking never do anymore. Those were huge plays. Even though the Drake TD throw was a short pass, it was a tough throw if I remember correctly.

      • Mike E. says:

        Actually, the Drake TD was easy as pie, never mind. 😀

      • Tim Knight says:

        Actually Tannehill had to adjust the throw on the fly with a blitzing corner jumping up to bat it down or pick it off and that’s why he put more of and arc on it and Drake had to slow up and wait for it. Drake still had enough speed and room to punch it in.

  7. Phindog says:

    Nice write Mike E !! Our offense does need a great game but our defense can’t play zone or they will get torched and limiting their run game is critical. Last year we played press and limited their offense. Attack .. Attack.. Attack.. Hit Brady early and often. He will pout and give up.

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks Doggy – Problem is, the way to beat Brady is pressure up the middle, something we never get. I think we need to stop the run game, they have all 3 backs again, Michel, White and Burkhead, and I would expect them to try and run them down our throats. Can’t let that happen

  8. Mike E. says:

    Then there’s this . . .

  9. ElephantRider says:

    Sounds like no X-Man this week…

  10. ElephantRider says:

    I am with you Mike E. Another good write, btw.

    Have 3 good RBs. Use them. The banged up line should have an easier time run blocking. RT17 is at his best under center with play actions and boots. Lets get physical!

  11. Rockphin says:

    grumble grumble grumble! Howard grumble grumble grumble bad luck all the time grumble grumble grumble

  12. stangerx says:

    Sanchez is the Redskins starting QB….. makes me laugh. Maybe cause it a perfect trifecta of hate for The Yets, Sanchez and Dan Snyder. 🙂

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      He’s won 10 games a year for the last 8 years straight.
      made 4 straight final four playoffs
      manages a multi-million dollar a year enterprise of hundreds of employees
      I can’t see any evidence that he lacks intelligence.
      You, however, invoke a crass and unscientific insult for an unfathomably cheap thrill.
      Did it make you feel jolly to do that?
      Do you also sniff glue?

  13. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    December 5, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Sanchez is the Redskins starting QB….. makes me laugh. Maybe cause it a perfect trifecta of hate for The Yets, Sanchez and Dan Snyder. 🙂
    Yup, Mark Sanchez is the QB that our own MIKE TANNENBAUM traded up for in 2009. And to be perfectly honest, Steve Ross truly has spent $$$, much like Dan “Deep Pockets” Snyder.

    And just like the Redskins, we’ve sucked for many, many years.

    I wouldn’t laugh too hard… especially being the ‘Skins beat us the last time they met us in the Super Bowl.

  14. Tim Knight says:

    Nice write Mike! Good point about the Pats handling our WRs the first time. They played a lot of man and we couldn’t make them pay. I agree we need to pull out some special plays and show some different looks.

    What’s up with Howard? That sucks if he can’t play.

  15. CavalierKong says:

    Dirty Bubbles playing for the ‘Skins now. LOL

    • mf13ss says:


      I had nearly forgotten that YOU coined Mark Sanchez as “Dirty Bubbles”!!! 😆

      LUV IT!!! CHEERS!!!

      • CavalierKong says:

        I had forgotten that moniker I until I read your post, and it popped into my head. I don’t even remember what the context for that name was, but it was always one of my favorites. lol

  16. olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: For the last several years I have had Ryan sell my New England tickets to an over eager Patriots fan for crazy money. Again, as in the past few years, the Fins have NO SHOT at the Super Bowl. And Pats’ fans will pay huge sums to come down to Florida and see their boys get their butts beat. SOOO-O-O I take advantage of the situation.
    HOWEVER, if the Fins have a realistic shot at success in the playoffs, I will NOT sell my tix to any December home games. And, in case you wondered, the LAST TIME I DID FEEL CONFIDENT was in late December of 2000 when the Dolphins, led by QB Jay Fiedler, defeated Peyton Manning and the Colts in Miami in overtime!! What a game it was!!!
    IS ANYONE on this board taking an extra close look at this year’s crop of Quarterbacks who will be available in the April draft?? Ex-Gator and current Mountaineer Will Grier certainly has impressed me. He has the big arm for the deep passes that our wideouts seldom have tossed their way. I DON’T expect Grier to last past pick 5 or 6 in round one, so it’s obvious we’ll have to come up with a blockbuster trade to move well up the board. Anyway, I’d LOVE to hear what Mr. Spikes, Mike E., and some of our other board members have to say about acquiring a potential Top-10 quarterback for next year’s team. A Top 10 quarterback currently is NOT on Miami’s roster, so changes HAVE to come to the QB position, the O-Line, and the D-Line
    Of course, a change is also needed for the OWNER, GM AND HEAD COACH. But I don’t see that coming in 2019.- – – WHAT do you think?

    • stangerx says:

      OD — figure as good as your seats are that you could go to four games, sell the tickets to the rest and the ones you go to are for free. And yeah those Pats fans pay the big money.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Here’s the pass. LOL

      • olddolphan says:

        GOTTA LOVE those throw back jersies and the large REAL DOLPHIN at midfield instead of the “Ross Minnow!”
        DOLPHINS are almost unbeatable at home with the “Throw backs!” Let’s make them the “REGULAR” jersies for next season!!!

  17. mf13ss says:

    olddolphan says:
    December 5, 2018 at 7:59 pm
    … Anyway, I’d LOVE to hear what Mr. Spikes, Mike E., and some of our other board members have to say about acquiring a potential Top-10 quarterback for next year’s team…
    I’m what they call “old school”, thus, I want to see what these top-tiered QBs can do in a Bowl game when the stakes REALLY matter.

    As such, I’m not calling a favorite at this point in time, Mr. Campbell.

  18. Tim Knight says:

    OD, I’ve wanted to go back to the original uni’s since last year. I love them. I’m done with the new look. I do have a nice generic jersey with the new logo that I like. But the throwbacks look classic and I prefer them.

  19. Rockphin says:

    Miami Dolphins: Xavien Howard has allowed three or fewer catches in 19 consecutive games. That is double any other cornerback’s current streak and one game away from tying Chris Harris Jr. for the longest streak in the PFF era (a cornerback needs 15 or more coverage snaps in each game during the streak to qualify).

  20. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    December 5, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Sanchez is the Redskins starting QB…
    and they didn’t even consider Kapernick yet they signed Rubin Foster, while i dont agree with what Kapernick started I don’t think what he was doing pales in comparison to the charges against Foster.

    I wouldn’t want to give Kapernick a stage for more of his political venue but if we could get past all that i would definitely take him over Mark Sanchez.

  21. ocalarob says:

    i like the addition of Nick O’Leary, i think he’s the best TE on the team! great lead blocker.

    • Rockphin says:

      Way better than Gheysucki

      • D says:

        I still think that Gase isnt playing Gesicki to his strengths, he is still round peg square-holing him. O’Leary may be more of the TE type Gase is looking for, but if so then its kind of Gase’s fault for not drafting two that are like Smythe vs going big early on and taking a receiving TE with scouting marks that said he couldnt block for shit and then not using him as a receiver.

  22. Rockphin says:

    Quote from Tom Brady:

    “It’s been a challenging environment,” Brady said. “I think the climate plays some role and they always seem to play well when they play us down there. We are not going to get beat by the weather; we’re going to get beat by the Dolphins.”


  23. D says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    December 5, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    He’s won 10 games a year for the last 8 years straight.
    made 4 straight final four playoffs
    manages a multi-million dollar a year enterprise of hundreds of employees
    I can’t see any evidence that he lacks intelligence.
    You, however, invoke a crass and unscientific insult for an unfathomably cheap thrill.
    Did it make you feel jolly to do that?
    Do you also sniff glue
    No he looks like he is. I didnt say he actually was, nor that he was intellectually stunted. He just has a really dumb look on his face all the time. He could have won every game of his entire career and its not going to help that silly look and those big turned out ears.

    I was poking fun at the situation where i would normall use that word but i was refraining from it.

    As for your questions:I have already said i count myself as a person who acts retarded, as do i count most people here in that same category. I dont think Jolly or getting a jolly has anything to do with it either. I did not require glue to be this way.

  24. Rockphin says:

    D says:
    December 6, 2018 at 10:39 am
    I still think that Gase isnt playing Gesicki to his strengths…. then not using him as a receiver.

    I think it goes beyond that. Gesicki is soft. He does’t get separation on his routes and cannot get off his blocks.

    • D says:

      Maybe, i havent waatched him runs his routes close enough to know for sure, but i know he sucks at blocking. Still im not gonna bang my head into a wall if i drafted a guy in the second round and wanted to get use out of him. Hell with our lack of depth at receiver, they could just line him up out there and run routes with him and keep O’Leary on the field.

  25. D says:

    ocalarob says:
    December 6, 2018 at 7:43 am

    stangerx says:
    December 5, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Sanchez is the Redskins starting QB…
    and they didn’t even consider Kapernick yet they signed Rubin Foster, while i dont agree with what Kapernick started I don’t think what he was doing pales in comparison to the charges against Foster.

    I wouldn’t want to give Kapernick a stage for more of his political venue but if we could get past all that i would definitely take him over Mark Sanchez.
    I dotn see that it matters much, if you are considering Kaepernick or Sanchez as the QB you finish the year out with, you are choosing between two QB’s that aren’t going to do anything for your team. Its like choosing what QB would you rather lose with, as was out situation earlier between Fales and Osweiler. I think it just comes down to what the coach prefers. Maybe Sanchez fit their system better so it wouldnt be as hard getting him up to speed. It could be they didnt want to deal with Kaepernick’s other shit.

  26. D says:

    mf13ss says:
    December 5, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    olddolphan says:
    December 5, 2018 at 7:59 pm
    … Anyway, I’d LOVE to hear what Mr. Spikes, Mike E., and some of our other board members have to say about acquiring a potential Top-10 quarterback for next year’s team…
    I’m what they call “old school”, thus, I want to see what these top-tiered QBs can do in a Bowl game when the stakes REALLY matter.

    As such, I’m not calling a favorite at this point in time, Mr. Campbell.
    Non of them are really in a bowl game that matters though. They will be playing it safe, most likely. Its kinda like the Senior Bowl, the game itself isnt where you get your ideas about the player, its the practices. The gam, everyone is playing safe, and showcasing a little, but the interviews, the meetings with the team execs, all those are way more important than how they fair int he game. A lot of the top players are sitting out this year, so most of the bowl games are going to be second teir players against each other, i just dont think that its the same thing anymore.

    • D says:

      To answer OD’s questions though, i absolutely think we should take a QBin the first round. I dont think it has to be the first QB off the board, but unless they just really aren’t sold on anyone in this class, id take the best one available when we pick. If we wind up having a shot at Drew Lock, or Daneil Jones, or even Dwayne Haskins (im going to listen to the rest of you and just try to let my OSU QB bias go), i think we should select one. Outside of those three i think Will Grier is an excellent choice and i wouldnt be upset if they doubles down at QB with a 1st and 3rd round selection, taking Grier with the second selection if he lass that long.I wouldnt mind them going

  27. Rockphin says:

    Just say no to throw away QB’s. Wait until the new HC get’s here before you spend a first round pick on a QB.

    • D says:

      I dont see any of those guys as throw away QB’s. They are as good as Trubisky, Mahomes or Wentz coming out of college.

      • D says:

        The one guy i listed above that i think could be a throw away is Haskins, but a lot of people here disagree with me.

  28. Mike E. says:

    No reason not to draft a QB next year. Even if Gase isn’t the future at HC, still need to draft a QB, or like D said, 2.

  29. Mike E. says:

    Gheysucki will be fine, give him some time to develop. This is O’Leary’s 4th NFL season. Guarantee you Gesicki will be considerably better in his 4th year

  30. Randy says:

    I have never understood the need to evaluate a rookie and claim he’s thus or that. Especially a guy like Gesicki who everyone knew was somewhat of a project coming out of college and would need to develop his game to become a more well rounded player. Can’t we wait 7 years and still claim he’s gonna get better? Lol

  31. mf13ss says:

    It’s not Mike Gesicki’s fault that he’s not being properly utilized: this is a dink-n-dunk Offense. His 8.7 YPR is evidence of as much. Know what that means? It means on average, he’s thrown to before he can even get past a mere 10-yard route.

    He wasn’t brought in to be an in-line blocker (see Smythe)… he was brought in to stretch the seam. Both Gase and Tannehill don’t even know what the seam means.

  32. mf13ss says:

    Remember, Kyler Murray isn’t going to the NFL… he’s going to the MLB (Major League Baseball).

    • D says:

      My guess is he will enter the MLB draft and the NFL draft and go wherever he feels he can start a career and get paid te most money. Baseball will wind up being the best/easiest mony route, but it takes a while to get going, whereas the NFL would start him off making more. I dunno what the end result will be but i expect he will enter both drafts.

  33. Mike E. says:

    D – I think Gase wants to have a TE that can run the seam, that’s why he desperately went after Julius Thomas last year. I’m not sure where the disconnect is though. Apparently he and Tannehill haven’t developed a rhythm or a trust yet, but that will happen. O.J. Howard was more NFL ready and he struggled his first season, and Eric Ebron is finally looking the guy that was drafted a few years ago.

    • D says:

      I just havent seen Gesicki running many of those routes. They seem to be using him primarily on short to middle crossing routes. They really arent stretching the field with him.

    • D says:

      Also, to add to your comment about O’Leary, he also has been in the league and been on multiple teams during his short career, so its not like the success he has had has been evident every where he has been. IM glad he is finally finding his niche with us, but i dont think that just because he is out performing Gesicki currently that thats where we will be this time next year. I think Gesicki has a lot of potential, and thats coming from a guy who didnt really care a lot about him before the draft.

  34. Rockphin says:

    D says:
    December 6, 2018 at 1:51 pm
    My guess is he will enter the MLB draft and the NFL draft and go wherever he feels he can start

    He is already an Oakland Athletic. (or they own his rights)

  35. Rockphin says:

    The A’s signed Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray to a $4.66 million signing bonus last summer by making the outfielder version of him the No. 9 overall pick in the MLB draft. Murray, now the favorite to win the Heisman Trophy, could be a first-round pick for his talents on the gridiron, to

    • D says:

      Yeah i had heard about that but it doesnt prevent him from going into the NFL draft. He can still be drafted and play in the NFL instead.

  36. Rockphin says:

    I was just bustin on Mike E’s balls about Gesicki. Dallas Goedert is doing better through this point in their careers. 221 yards to 156 yards, 10.5 YPC to 8.7, 3 TD to 0 TD’s. PLUS the turn overs.

    • Rockphin says:

      but neither has taken the league by storm so Gesicki still can become the better overall player with time to develop. (can, not necessarily will. If I could tell the future I would OWN the Dolphins with my 10 winning lottery awards.)

  37. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think system or anyone else has anything to do with Gesicki having a meh rookie season. I think it’s all on him needing to develop his skills at the NFL level. I thought he’d make more on an impact than he has but I’m not surprised by the season he’s having. Everyone knew he had a lot to work on coming out of college. However I’d be shocked if he wasn’t much better next season.

  38. mf13ss says:

  39. Rockphin says:

    We’ll see how our two rookie TE’s do next year and the year after. I am much more concerned with the lack of productivity from Charles Harris. 19 tackles 12 assists and 2 sacks in two seasons is back up back up production not first round pick production.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s another one who needed to add some weight and strength coming out of college. He showed some promise his rookie season and then this year he got hurt and missed 5 games that hampered his progress. I’m not ready to give up on him yet. I’ve seen other edge guys take a few years to develop – Brandon Graham, Everson Griffen, Melvin Ingram, even some guy named Cam Wake reinvented himself in the CFL to what he has become.

  40. Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    December 6, 2018 at 2:39 pm
    Goedert has Ertz in front of him…..

    Well Gesicki has whatever TE the can call in off the streets in front of him…..(MarQueis grey, AJ Derby, now Nick O’Leary)

    • Rockphin says:


    • Tim Knight says:

      They all have more experience than Gesicki. Gray had a nice role with us but never made it out of camp this year. Derby was a project who showed promise but of course he went down during the season. O’Leary busted onto the scene with us but has since been quiet. Gray and Derby are UFAs next season and even though they won’t be difficult guys to re-sign, I’m not sure we will with Gesicki, Smythe and O’Leary all locked up for 2019.

  41. Rockphin says:

    Here is a crazy statistical anomaly for you.

    The Green Bay Packers are 200/1 odds to win the superbowl
    Miami is 500/1

    HOWEVER the same list shows Miami has a 7.5% chance of making the playoffs and Green bay only has a 2.8% chance.

    How does that work? we have a “much better” (2.5 x better) chance of making the playoffs but they have 2.5 x better chance of winning the SB? You gotta get to the dance to dance.

  42. Mike E. says:

    D – Hurst was hurt for nearly half the season with a foot injury. He never really got on track, and the Ravens have a bunch of young TE’s, a few early rounders too. Hurst was 1st RD this year, Maxx Williams was 2nd RD in ’15, Mark Andrews 3rd RD this yea. Their starter is Nick Boyle, a 5th RD pick in ’15. Go figure!

  43. son of a son of a shula says:

    If Kyler Murray doesn’t enter the draft could a team still draft him anyway just to secure rights to him?

    • Mike E. says:

      Yeah, but I’d bet it would be a late RD pick, no team is gonna waste an early pick knowing he wants to play BB

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        The rookie cap might be what keeps him with the A’s, with no cap he could bank as an early first rounder

      • Tim Knight says:

        If he’s that good at baseball he should play baseball. Less of a chance suffering a brutal injury or having long-term affects from one and guaranteed contracts.

      • Mike E. says:

        Yeah, if he could get a Sam Bradford type contract, you might be right

  44. son of a son of a shula says:

    Rock, the difference in chance to win the Super Bowl vs chance to make the playoffs is that they feel if GB did make it they’d do better as a playoff team than us.

  45. D says:

    Rockphin says:
    December 6, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    Here is a crazy statistical anomaly for you.

    The Green Bay Packers are 200/1 odds to win the superbowl
    Miami is 500/1

    HOWEVER the same list shows Miami has a 7.5% chance of making the playoffs and Green bay only has a 2.8% chance.

    How does that work? we have a “much better” (2.5 x better) chance of making the playoffs but they have 2.5 x better chance of winning the SB? You gotta get to the dance to dance.
    What that says to me is that Green Bay, if they make the playoffs they are likely to go further in them, whereas we have a better chance of getting in and then flaming out in the first game.

  46. Tim Knight says:

    I think we can all agree that neither the Packers or Dolphins will be playing in the Super Bowl. LOL

  47. Rockphin says:

    Son you are my favorite dick (after my own of course)

  48. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Son

  49. mf13ss says:

  50. Rockphin says:

    Son, the favorite dick comment was because every time I read one of your posts I think to myself “what a dick” but then I remember that I like you in person.

  51. Randy says:

    I can’t root for any team I follow to lose, but it wouldn’t break my heart if we lost every single game left to get a better draft slot. I won’t be hoping for it but we aren’t doing spit even if we get into the playoffs…so I just can’t get excited about it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I can’t follow this game where the trophy is a better draft slot. I’d rather make the playoffs because you never know. 🙂

  52. Randy says:

    I keep hoping for Santa to bring me a new Maserati for Christmas too because you never know! Lol

  53. Mike E. says:

    Randy – I think even if we finished 6-10, we won’t be a top 10 pick, but I get your point that a #12 is better than 17-20

  54. Mike E. says:

    LOLing at Rock defending his favorite dick comment.

  55. D says:

    Rockphin says:
    December 6, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    Son you are my favorite dick (after my own of course)
    You dont show him nearly the amount of attention though.

  56. Randy says:

    Like I said, I can’t root for losing at anytime. But, if we want to go after a QB, the higher the better. It also gives you more options of trading back, getting higher picks and giving you capital to make a move in 2020, if that’s what they’re thinking. Truthfully, it’s more about my disappointment with how this team has performed this year than anything. My positivity has been crushed.

  57. Randy says:

    Oh I’ll always cheer on the team. That’s a given. This team just doesn’t have the players to control or win the battle on either side of the LOS, so I have no hope. Making the playoffs is fool’s gold.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Upsetting a higher seed can be fun. You don’t know until they play the game. I don’t expect us to make the playoffs but would enjoy it if we did. You can always find good players in the draft regardless of where you pick.

  58. Tim Knight says:

    New head coaches and higher draft picks. Reminds me of this.

  59. Mike E. says:

    Tim – The player you choose may not be better at #12 compared to #17, but it’s better to have the choice!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Sure, but I don’t root for it.

      • Mike E. says:

        It depends, at some point I’m cool with the losses if we’re out of it, but I want to win while I watch it, if that makes any sense at all

      • Tim Knight says:

        The final results takes care of itself. So I always root for wins and the team decides what happens anyway. I would love to make the playoffs, play the role of underdog and upset a higher seed. 🙂

  60. Rockphin says:

    Randy, I feel your pain. Just like your Maserati, I am pretty sure I will not get the pile of cheerleaders I asked for.

  61. ElephantRider says:

    Mike E

    I understand how you feel. I root and cheer and get angry and excited during the game. At this point tho, they lose and i’m over it in about 5 minutes compared to early in season when it takes the rest of the day kicking puppies and pinching babies to feel better.

  62. stangerx says:

    Maybe the worst sign for Gesicki was when the coaches said, “his blocking is getting a lot better.” Seems if he was showing what we hoped that would be a throw in. Same time….. hoping he becomes what we all wished for. A good starter on that would be red zone snaps.

  63. Tim Knight says:

    Go Jaguars! Knock the Titans down a notch and we beat them head to head. That said we have to then beat the Pats to make it matter.

    • mf13ss says:


      • Tim Knight says:

        We might as well enjoy the chance being the 7th seed looking to steal the 6th seed while it’s still alive. Both conferences are very much undecided with the exception of 7 teams I feel will be there.
        NE, HOU, KC, LAC
        CHI, NO, LAR

        A lot can change over 4 games. PIT and BAL have an edge but not confident either team is a lock to close the deal. There is still a lot that can change with 5-7 to 7-5 teams. Gotta play the games! 🙂

      • mf13ss says:

        You’ve got it, Bro. I refuse to lose until we’re officially out of it, though some of our own have already written us off/out.

      • mf13ss says:

        And to be clear, I’m not trying to call anybody out… hey, if ya think we’re done for, so be it. It is what it is, and you’re likely right.

        But I’m with Tim, where it’s not over ’til it’s over.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think many fans look at us as worse than we really are because when you really take a look at the rest of the league, we’re not that far off with the exception of a few teams who show consistent dominance.

        Not good that Howard is questionable/Doubtful.

  64. mf13ss says:

  65. Tim Knight says:

    When any of my sports teams are in a playoff hunt but I don’t think their championship bound, it’s fun to be the dark horse because great sports moments are made of underdogs doing something special. The 2011 NYG were not a great team at 9-7. But they got to the dance with a chance to dance as Rock said.

    Enjoy it while it’s still possible. 🙂

  66. mf13ss says:


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  70. Randy says:

    The NFL loves when fans of every single team thinks they have a shot. Nothing like telling fans their team is “still in it” when they are 2 games back from the last wildcard spot with 6 other teams and 4 games left. Lol

  71. ElephantRider says:

    Frickin Jags suck!

  72. Randy says:

    I enjoy watching football no matter how good the team I follow is. What I think of the team doesn’t affect my enjoyment. I can be realistic and hopeful at the same time. Lol

  73. bookman11 says:

    Beat the Pats! We are in it!!!! Enjoy the games while they last! Just. Have. Fun!

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s what it’s all about. We’ll have plenty of time to discuss us not making the playoffs and what we need to do to make it in 2019. I believe competing and winning as much as you can is just as much a part of it as anything else. That’s part of the culture. Play until the end.

      • bookman11 says:

        Exactly!!! All other teams that are 6-6 are in it, but we are not? Lol. Sometimes we spend too much time analyzing and not enough time just enjoying the season, and each game within it. We have a shot! Enjoy it! There are many months to worry about the off season. JMHO.

        Ok, I’m done now.

  74. ocalarob says:

    Yes, it’s great to watch football, keep rooting till the last game then plenty of time too critique,

    only 6 teams have won the superbowl from the wild card, most recent was 2010, so it can be done.

    • D says:

      Maybe thats just how crafty Gase really is, all those putird displays of incompetence just to pull out the real playbook at just the right time and “SURPRISE” we win the superbowl!

  75. ocalarob says:

    crazy season, we need this win on sunday, that would put us 4-1 in the division and 6-4 conference.

  76. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 6, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    The final results takes care of itself. So I always root for wins and the team decides what happens anyway. I would love to make the playoffs, play the role of underdog and upset a higher seed. 🙂
    Ive lowered my expectations WAY down, i just root for us not to play like… well you know.

  77. Rockphin says:

    I am going to root for us to be 10-6 at the end of the year and make the playoffs even though I am hoping for Gase to be fired. If he can somehow get this team of beat up backups to make the playoffs, well then he can stay! LOL

    I don’t care about draft position in December. That is a discussion for next month.

  78. Rockphin says:

    Even if we lose this Sunday to NE, which would just about eliminate us from the playoffs I will still root to win the final three games. GO DOLPHINS!!

    • D says:

      Wins make people feel better losses make them feel worse, so everyone, for simple fact of personal enjoyment should always root for wins. Alternately, you could also adjust your expectations down some and find a new happy/sad pivot point, which is what i have done.

      If i can see us play a good game ill be happy with it, because we have had plenty this year that haven’t been good. The other team can just beat you, and there is no reason to me, at this point in our season, to deny myself some satisfaction if i know we played well enough to win, possibly on a different Sunday.

      Its been working for me as far as how i have felt about the games. I think the losses aren’t hitting me as hard and the wins are even more enjoyable.

  79. stangerx says:

    Least after last night, Jags at home sure does look winnable. Beat either the Pats or the Vikes and good chance we are still mathematically alive for the playoffs come last game.

  80. BailBondMike says:

    defenses are forcing the most “3 and Outs” this season
    Kinda interesting that 5 of the top 10 have losing records.
    Good call. The translation: if one doesn’t have a high-scoring Offense, good luck.
    Four of our 6 wins are against teams in the top 5 of this stat. Maybe those teams are up in the top 5 cause they all got to play against our shitty offense. I mean, look at who is #1, Jets. Could that be because they got to play against our offense twice? Hmmmmmmm? LOL

    • stangerx says:

      We might have helped, but teams are 12 games in, even if Jets got us twice. And have to think when teams are running out the clock a bunch on you that helps with the 3 and out stats too.

  81. stangerx says:

    Last two seasons in which the Patriots won the Super Bowl (2014, 2016), they lost during the regular season in Miami.

  82. D says:

    I see our schedule as likely to end 8-8, we have two games that unless we are on int we are going to lose, and last games we have played we havent been on it, we have just been slightly better than bad. Winning one of the two games agaisnt wining team is our only hop to get in, but i still think it wont be enough.

    The Chargers or the Chiefs are going to get one of the WC spots, while the other wins the division. Leaving one spot for us to get with two other teams already ahead of us in the record race.

    The Ravens have two winnable but should be competative game and two that are likely losses. If they win the two they should and lose the other two, 9-7 and they have advantage over us with AFC wins.

    The Steelers have a mixed bag. 2 games against teams who have worse records, and two against two powerhouse teams. So they look to be headed to 9-6-1.

    The Titans have 3 winnable games left, so they likely go 10-6 , maybe 9-7. IF they are 9-7 we would get in by virtue of our head-to-head win, and i think if there are multiple ties we have the advantage of a multi-team tiebreaker as well.

    The Colts have it rough to end the year, i dont see them finishing much better than 8-8, if not 7-9.

    The Benglas look to be headed to 7-9, maybe 8-8 if they play well.

    The Broncos actually have it better than most, their end of the year is against mostly losing record teams, including two of the NFL’s worst. i could see 9-7 for them as well.

    To me it looks like we have to win out to be in, because 9-7 wouldn’t cut it. There is a chance that something odd happens and 9-7 might do it, but even then thats a tall order for us to beat either the Pats at home or the Vikes at their place.

  83. Rockphin says:

    Even if we win out the rest of the season we still need the Ravens to lose one game. We would be tied, but we would have a better conference record than them at that point. They are 6-3 in conference now with two more AFC games to go we are 5-4 with three conference games to go.

  84. Rockphin says:

    D, I haven’t looked at the level three tie breakers, but if we DO lose one game it would have to be the Vikes game for us to have ANY chance of still making the playoffs. I still don’t think that is good enough. The Ravens can at best be 8-3 (.727) in the conference which is better than our possible 8-4. (.666)

    I’m not sure why they play one less out of conference game than us this year?

  85. Mike E. says:

    Rock – every team plays 12 conference games

  86. son of a son of a shula says:

    “A day that will live in infamy”

    💪 Greatest generation

    • stangerx says:

      One of the best books ever read was The Good War: An Oral History of World War II by Studs Terkel. Might not have been the greatest generation to start, but the war made them that.

  87. Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    December 7, 2018 at 12:09 pm
    Rock – every team plays 12 conference games


    I was looking at NFL .com and they show the Ravens with a 6-3 conference record and games left against KC, Tampa and LAC

    They don’t show the final game against Clev for some reason which had me thinking there were only two AFC games left on their schedule. (6+2 = 8 + 3 losses =11) I guess Clev doesn’t count! LOL


    Look at the schedule mid way down the page on the right.

  88. mf13ss says:

    December 7th, 1941. ALWAYS REMEMBER

  89. Mike E. says:

    Rock, you had to click the “more” tab at the top right where they show the schedule

  90. Rockphin says:

    I read a funny meme today:

    “Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is “because you are stupid and make bad decisions”


  91. ocalarob says:

    Howard ruled out against Pats

  92. ocalarob says:

    Brice Butler seems to be a good WR

  93. ocalarob says:

    7-6 has a nice ring to it

  94. D says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    December 7, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    “A day that will live in infamy”

    💪 Greatest generation
    Totally didnt register with me today was Pearl Harbor Day. That speech that FDR gave still gives me chills when i listen to it and i usually listen to it every Dec 7th.

  95. mf13ss says:

  96. Tim Knight says:

    Horrible what those men went through on this date 77 years ago. Japan made a very big mistake that day.

    • mf13ss says:

      Indeed. And the sleeping giant suddenly put every socialistic regime on the face of Earth on notice.

      • mf13ss says:

        Socialist Germany, socialist Russia, socialist China, and socialist ANYBODY was put on notice.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well labeling them as simply economic socialist nations doesn’t do them justice. The Axis were lead by brutal dictatorships – Nazi Germany, Italy and Japan. Even though Stalin was also a brutal dictator, Russia/USSR eventually joined the Allies. Not out of the goodness of his heart, but out of the goodness of his nation’s survival. We probably don’t defeat the Axis without them. I believe Russia/USSR had more casualties than any other nation in WWII.

  97. herdfan says:

    Soooo I’m finally signed back in here. It’s so weird, I’ve never had issues like this and now it happens all the time.

    I missed all of last week’s game. Does that mean I can’t watch this Sunday? It was my daughter’s bday, I drove 5 hours round trip to take her a birthday cake and her presents. Took her out to lunch visited for a bit and then had to head home. Her first birthday away. 😢

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s awesome, Herd. It’s life.

      So our Phins are 6-6 and the 7th seed playing the Pats at home and 4-1 in our last 5. Win this trend and game, and we are very much in the playoff hunt. Lose and it’s likely a total back in job, or no playoffs.

      Would love to see a classic game and we win. The Pats usually blow us out in NE and we win a close game or solidly.

      Keys to the game:
      Defense – stop the run, rush the passer, force some turnovers.
      Offense – establish a decent running game, take deep shots in the passing game off of it.
      Special Teams – play even, or make that one big play.

  98. son of a son of a shula says:

    If Tannehill is ever going to grow a set of balls he needs to do it Sunday. He HAS to win this game for us. The time is now, he HAS to step up.
    … and that’s all I have to say about that.

  99. Krishna says:

    NE….are they beatable? Absolutely! Will we beat them? Doubtful. Will I watch the game and hope? Of course.

    I try to forget the last games and look forward. The only thing I see different is that we’ve scored on the first possession of the game. Then, we do what we always do….not much. I just don’t see the leadership needed at the most important position of the game. 24 and 21 points is just not good enough.

    • Krishna says:

      Sent too soon before edits but …. nuff said

    • stangerx says:

      Krishna — your opening stanza is exactly how I feel about Sunday. What else we gonna do? And yeah it is gonna take more than low 20s to beat them…… but then points can come in different ways.

  100. Mike E. says:

    Jake Brendel out this week, and Travis Swanson questionable. What if Swanson gets hurt?

  101. Mike E. says:

    Oh yeah, we have Wesley Johnson

  102. stangerx says:

    Talk about managing your overall football experience. Even if should, am not playing Goff in the Toba league cause my playoff opponent in the other has him going. Leaves me unconflicted to root for a Goff INT.

    • Mike E. says:

      I’m in an awful dogfight for the last playoff spot in my league. It’s so disappointing. I was never worse than 4th, which was what I was coming into last week, I had been either 1st, 2nd or 3rd all season long. Now after a loss last week, no Kareem Hunt and a small showing from Tyreek Hill and Michael Thomas, I’m in 7th. There’s still a chance, I need to win, my buddy has to win too, but I have t win by more than 35 points more than him, for total points. It’s crazy, and pretty unlikely, but you never know.

      • Mike E. says:

        BTW – I have those kind of conflicts pretty often, I’m in 3 different leagues. so it’s bound to happen

      • stangerx says:

        Sounds like a real close league. But shiot happens in FF. Am going into my playoff match down my top two draft picks (Bell and AJ Green) and just lost J Conner who was real nice replacing Bell. 4 of my 5 WR/RBs are guys I didn’t draft….. who the heck is Jeff Wilson Jr.? 🙂

  103. stangerx says:

    I know a lot of you are high on him, but not a guy I want after reading this.

    “West Virginia quarterback Will Grier will not play in the team’s bowl game, opting instead to focus on NFL draft prep. Grier is the first healthy high-profile quarterback to skip a bowl game to prepare for the NFL.”

  104. Tim Knight says:

    Anyone here offended by this?

  105. Tim Knight says:

    CB Jalen Davis has been promoted to the 53 man roster.

  106. Tim Knight says:

    More Vic is ticked off. LMAO!!!

  107. mf13ss says:

    “Ticked Off Vic” somewhat reminds me of Gilbert Gottfried… only Vic comes totally unhinged! LOL
    Here’s something Gottfried did a few months ago, just messing around with the NFL…

  108. mf13ss says:

    I’m surprised that Army actually threw the ball on their first drive! Great rivalry, great game for our servicemen, and for the pride of our country. Best of luck to both teams.

  109. Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ Vic – I feel like me and him would get along great

  110. Tim Knight says:

    On this date 38 years ago. 😦

  111. D says:

    Lol Vic is awesome and spot on. We live in such a twisted fucked up world lol

  112. Tim Knight says:

    Wow the Bills released Kelvin Benjamin after he just played us and the Chiefs signed him. Not such a bad thing.

  113. stangerx says:

    Yeah Mr. Roarke/ Khan was trying to get lucky. But same time…. we have movies where girls get beat up or even killed. No Cosby about this at least.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah this is the only song about trying to get lucky or scoring. Might as well ban most songs then. LOL

      • Tim Knight says:

        The one thing that makes us feel better is most people think all of this is ridiculous. We’re letting whiny little voices wind us all up. But what’s great has been the reaction and rebuttal. We all make fun of it and have a great laugh. LOL

  114. mf13ss says:


    You state that most people think all of this is ridiculous. Guess what… you’re only counting us who are in an aging demographic (dunno… 40+ years old, or something like that). Sadly, the children are being taught the very things we’re laughing about, here.

    I don’t mean to be a downer on our laughter, but it’s really only funny to us older folks who have lived in the real world. Stanger had asked me many years ago why I was so down on Common Core… now y’all should know: the children are being BRAIN-WASHED into the very things we’re laughing about.


    • mf13ss says:

      That stated, PLEASE keep bringing the humor!!! 😀

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not true. I know many of my family and friends’ kids who have no care about it. It’s silly.

      No doubt it’s an attempt to eliminate traditional American values, but it also is not the majority. It’s a faction yelling louder than everyone and we all react. I have not engaged one person in a week during this nonsense that has said I agree.

      • mf13ss says:

        Bro, you cannot quantify your “Not true” statement by simply mentioning your family and friends’ kids as your resources. I’m talking on a nationwide level, national studies, the fallout of the matter (States vs Common Core… and winning), and the clear results. The youth are truly falling in line with these silly things being taught to them.

        Aside from that, I concur with you 100%!!!

  115. Krishna says:

    First time seeing Vic….that’s hilarious and sadly true.

  116. mf13ss says:


  117. Tim Knight says:

    M13, across the country via all communications and FB etc. there is no support for the silly nonsense. It’s an extreme element. The same way I don’t personally know a White Supremacist, Neo-Nazi or Skinhead. Everything is a Soap Opera.

    Go Phins!!!!

    • mf13ss says:

      I absolutely disagree with ya that there is no support for the silly nonsense… and I say that to you with much respect, Brother. Much is being invented in order to $ell ‘news’.

      I absolutely agree with ya that there should be NO support for the silly nonsense: #FakeNews has existed for a very long time, and we all know it in our heart of hearts. And I don’t even say that as a partisan, rather as a bi-partisan.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Small minority. Trump won the presidency because of that. People are tired of trivial nonsense. I know so many traditional Democrats that can’t deal with it anymore that they’re walking away. Common sense is prevailing. It’s not 100 to nothing, but a majority of people are tired of it. Most of us know who Trump is – a brash, egotistical asshole. But he won for a reason. We’re going to get more of this because of all of it.

  118. mf13ss says:

  119. Rockphin says:




  120. BailBondMike says:

    I guess Fitz will be our #1 CB. Will see a bunch of Armstrong and Davis. Hope they step up to the challenge. With that, I don’t see the Pats attacking them the whole game but maybe testing them early. I think they will stay with what works against us and that is going to Gronk and dump offs to RB’s. The key for us this game is we have to have a pass rush. If not, we are toast without “X”.

  121. wyoming85 says:

  122. Mike E. says:

    Whether we’re really in the playoff hunt or not, let’s fuck up the damn Patriots today! I mean put a real hurtin’ on them. That would feel good

  123. George Paton to Miami would mean Ross is ready to blow the WHOLE thing up and not just a part of the team. If he ends up there, as some think he may, it would mean Ross has finally gotten tired of all the losing and the excuses and went out and got himself a guy who can make the decisions this team needs to start winning again.

    • stangerx says:

      Seems might mean the end of the Tannenbaum, but why would a new GM mean blow everything up? You watching the game today?

      • stangerx says:

        Too bad. Remember when moved into a building that had Direct TV and could get NFL Ticket. Saved me a lot of money in tabs at sports bars. Even if missed meeting the Phins fans who would wonder in….. hard not to end up with them since you’d be at the same TVs. 🙂

      • because a new GM would only want the job if he’s being given the opportunity to build the team the way he wants to. Paton wouldn’t take the job otherwise. Neither would anyone else. but, he’s ready to leave Minnesota and the team interviewed him last time and the thought is Miami is going to be the place he lands.

      • It’s okay. Not in the mood to see the slaughter anyway. And I’m not wasting 3 hrs of a Sunday on this team as long as that dipshit is throwing the ball

      • stangerx says:

        Difference btwn getting control and deciding to blow it up though. What if he decides “hey this a team can work with some adjustments….including a new QB”?

      • If Ross would be considering bringing in a new GM, especially someone like Paton, it means he’s giving full control of the team to him. Any person worth it would never agree to come in if they weren’t being given the opportunity to build the team the way they want to because they want to live or die by THEIR decisions; not someone else’s. No GM who is worth anything is going to say “okay, I’ll take the job and leave all the other parts intact”. Not going to happen. If a guy is willing to say that he’s a lame duck.

      • stangerx says:

        Far as I know Paton might have been at the last Fest and I didn’t catch….. clearly you know much more about him. Was just thinking he might decide not to go full blow up. I wouldn’t, but then don’t have nearly the football smarts you do.

      • He was actually with the team with Spielman and followed him to Minnesota. He would be a great addition to the team.

  124. stangerx says:

    Not gonna be much heat advantage today. Pretty overcast and a bit rainy. And sorta cool — like high 70’s now. Doubt the Pats bench will be baking.

  125. So, what quarter does Belichick get to pull his starters today?

  126. Randy says:

    I think it’s gonna be tough today with all the issues along the OL. But, I would like to see some innovation from our OC in how he attacks the Pats. If we just see more of the same crap, I’ll be disappointed. I don’t think we can just line up and beat them toe-to-toe. We will probably need some trickeration. It would be nice to see Gase come up with something.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I expect a pass from Ballage out of the Wildcat. Seems they have been practicing for it little by little all season.

      Defensing the wildcat is a known weakness of bellicheat’s.

    • stangerx says:

      Might as well go for it Randy. When the dude is 100 pounds heavier than you and built like the Arnold….. might as well go for the groin shot. 🙂

  127. Tim Knight says:

    Go Phins!

  128. Ken says:

    Beat the Pats. I don’t care if we make the playoffs. I just want to beat the Pats

  129. Randy says:

    I don’t know about the groin shot, but I would like to see a karate chop to the throat.

  130. stangerx says:

    Amendola is playing. And am sure is a game he is real up for.

  131. Tim Knight says:

    So I fell short of winning my division in FF. My friend and I played last game of the year for it and he beat me finishing 10-3 and I 9-3-1. The consequences of that is I now play the lowest seed in the playoffs and lowest winning pct. we’ve ever had at .385, and my two defenses Bears and Ravens play the top two offenses in the Rams and Chiefs. I’m going with the Bears but I also have Gurley going against the Bears DEF. Aaron Rodgers and Julio Jones really hurt me last week so I need big games from them. I do not want to lose to the worst seed of all time.

  132. mf13ss says:

    GO PHINS!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

  133. Ken says:

    No Xman today. Bummer

  134. rich0322 says:

    It’s that time again. Go Phins!!!

  135. rich0322 says:

    Not a good start for the defense.

  136. stangerx says:

    Typical Pats — we got this under control. Wish could say did not respect that.

  137. Rockphin says:

    Man, we have really gotten some breaks on kicks this season

  138. Randy says:

    Held them to 6! Lol

  139. BailBondMike says:

    I hope McMillen can really improve going into next year. If he hit the gap right on that 3rd and goal he gets the stop but he whiffed to the left and ended up watching the FB lunge just over the goal line.

  140. Rockphin says:

    Nice run by Gore!

  141. pheloniusphish says:

    And just like that.

  142. Rockphin says:


  143. son of a son of a shula says:

    Wow who is that offense. Best drive of the year. Impressive.

  144. Ken says:

    Nice drive

  145. Randy says:

    Nice blocks by James and O’Leary

  146. mf13ss says:

    What is wrong with our Offense today?!! They aren’t playing dead!!

  147. stangerx says:

    Stills didn’t have to pass that one to himself.

  148. Rockphin says:

    Man, I will take Bob Greise stats from Tannyhill if we keep scoring.

  149. pheloniusphish says:

    Now a little defense

  150. son of a son of a shula says:

    Nice stop

  151. pheloniusphish says:

    Go Kiko!

  152. son of a son of a shula says:

    Kiko baby!

  153. son of a son of a shula says:

    Keep it going now offense. No let up.

  154. Rockphin says:

    Now, if we were for real we would drive down the field and score again…..

  155. manitobafinfan says:

    Is O Rob calling plays today ??

  156. manitobafinfan says:


  157. pheloniusphish says:

    Nice hold on the NE DT

  158. son of a son of a shula says:

    Well that turned to shit fast

  159. Rockphin says:


  160. herdfan says:

    Well that was a buzz kill.

  161. naplesfan2010 says:

    see …
    bellicheat figures nothing to lose as it’s a punt with more than five yards to go so may as well cheat and if you get a flag no biggie, and if you get a blocked punt, it could win the game.

    That’s why i can never support bellicheat for a great coach unless you count winning at all costs including cheating nonstop.

  162. son of a son of a shula says:

    BOOM 💥

  163. manitobafinfan says:

    Nice run woooooo

  164. Rockphin says:

    So sweet for us and him

  165. stangerx says:

    Drake 2.0

  166. pheloniusphish says:


  167. Ken says:

    Camera man took himself out

  168. wyoming85 says:

    Well Now!

  169. naplesfan2010 says:

    take that cheaters

  170. Tim Knight says:


  171. naplesfan2010 says:

    what a wussy little call against branch

  172. pheloniusphish says:

    Still no pass rush

  173. naplesfan2010 says:

    McTyer burned again

  174. naplesfan2010 says:

    Aikens is just not a first string DB.

  175. naplesfan2010 says:

    They are holding Wake every play.
    Oh wait.
    They have been traditionally allowed to do that.

  176. son of a son of a shula says:

    Chuck it down the field woohoo

  177. Ken says:

    So far this is a really fun game if you like offense

  178. son of a son of a shula says:

    The offense is emBoldened today

  179. Rockphin says:



    who is this Gase guy? anyone know?

  180. naplesfan2010 says:

    helluva throw by Tannehill.

  181. stangerx says:

    Bolden just screwed up. If he ever runs the Wildcat on tape that he is a lefty.

  182. wyoming85 says:

    Who said we don’t use a FB!!!!!!!

  183. Tim Knight says:

    Yeah baby!!! Bolden is balling!!! Nice to see us having a former Pat giving them the business. LOL

  184. Ken says:

    Now can we play some defense?

  185. Tim Knight says:

    We’re a very different offense when we block well.

  186. Rockphin says:

    Sanders has been killing it on the Kick offs

  187. Ken says:

    We suck pn 3rd down defense

  188. wyoming85 says:

    Too Easy!

  189. Tim Knight says:

    It’s a fun scoring game but can we play some defense?

  190. son of a son of a shula says:

    Keep matching them, all we can do

  191. Rockphin says:

    Does this new guy, what’s his name? Gase? Does he know how to call a four minute drill?

  192. Rockphin says:

    Wish Howard was out there.

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