Well, out with the old, in with the older. The Dolphins traded QB Ryan Tannehill to the Tennessee Titans and our 2019 6th RD (#188) pick as well as paying $5M of Ryan Tannehill’s $7M 2019 salary in exchange for the Titans 2019 7th RD pick (#234), and the biggest part of the trade, a 2020 4th RD pick. In addition to the Tannehill trade, the Dolphins signed veteran QB Ryan Fitzpatrick to a 2 year $11M deal, but with performance incentives met (they won’t!) could boost the deal to between $17-20M.
I remember driving home from work the night of the 2012 NFL Draft. It was Thursday April 26th, I worked until 9PM and I was racing home from work that night, desperately trying to make it home to watch us make our selection at #8. It didn’t happen. I was close, less than a half mile away when my cell phone rings (hands free for you law enforcement type) and it’s Walker on the other end. Walker says in his lovable southern drawl “Mike E, we got a QB!” I can actually feel the excitement still, the hope of a young QB, it brings so much promise. Unfortunately for both us and for Ryan, things never quite happened as they were supposed to, and the Tannehill era ended 3/15/19 with the trade to the Titans.
In 2016, Ryan Tannehill had his best stretch as a Miami Dolphin. After losing 4 of the first 5 games, at 104, Miami rode the J-Train (Jay Ajayi), and that threat of a legitimate run game opened up the offense, and the ball control rejuvenated the defense. The Dolphins went on to win 7 of the next 8 games with Ryan Tannehill until the fateful knee injury ended his season against the Arizona Cardinals. You know the rest, Matt Moore finished the season 2-1, beating the Jets and Bills, but losing the final game of the season to the Patriots. In the playoffs, we were no match for the Steelers as we were drubbed 30-12 in a non competitive game. Could Ryan Tannehill have done better? We’ll never know.
The Dolphins signing an older vet QB like Fitzpatrick means a couple of things. Fitz is not a long term answer so the Dolphins are still looking for young QB talent. S Minkah Fitzpatrick will have to put an “M.” before his shared last name of Fitzpatrick on his jersey for ’19. Fitzpatrick is a capable QB, but has been a rollercoaster the last couple of years. He started last season hot throwing 8 TD’s to 1 INT in his first 2 games for the Bucs. It all leveled out as Fitz finished the season throwing 17 TD’s and 12 INT’s after the 8:1 ratio in games 1 and 2. He’s really good and really bad. That’s how he’s been. He loves to sling it, and I’d be lying if I said that won’t be a welcome change to our controlled offense of throwing in a 5 yard radius 98% of the time with Tannehill and Gase.
I think the Dolphins will take a QB in this draft, but not necessarily in RD1, unless the right guy just happens to fall to us at #13. We won’t be trading up, which makes it difficult, but we just need to improve the young talent depth at QB. If we felt either Rudock or Falk were the real deal we probably don’t bother picking up Fitzpatrick. Whether Haskins, Lock or Jones are a guy we target, we’ll see in a few weeks. I’m excited that we’re on the right track, and each move we make cements it in that the rebuild is legitimate, and things will get better, but again, for the short term they just might get worse.
#staythecourse
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Mike E. says:
March 25, 2019 at 10:50 am
Anyone have ideas on how to blow up the 2 party system?
You have to get 50 states to each independently change the state election laws.
Approximately, 3,000,000 MORE people voted for the other candidate. Let’s start with our election laws and give everyone the right to vote…..isn’t that in the constitution?
I hope you are not referring to illegal immigrants
They aren’t voting
I don’t know why anyone believes that bs propaganda
There are more cases of voter fraud by American citizens (which isn’t a lot) then there are of illegal immigrants getting caught voting
Given several opportunities to devise tasks and investigate it, there is still an incredible lack of evidence that it is actually occurring despite Trump’s rhetoric on the subject
Illegal aliens barely speak English much less can figure out to get around voting registration requirements
Accusing illegal aliens of voting is the same kind of MAGA logic that claims he is exonerated for an investigation that specifically states it doesn’t exonerate him
The real problem is not that non citizens are voting
It’s that less than 60% of Americans are voting on a reg basis
I don’t have a huge problem with the EC
I mentioned to illustrate the point about 3rd parties above
But it should be working so that there isn’t a huge disparity between the popular vote and the EC
The way EC votes are assigned by 2 things: number of house numbers (which is dermined by census results ofnpopulation) and then an extra 2 Added per state to represent. In other words 2 for the senate and the rest for the house which is a direct reflection of the population
The extra 2 shouldn’t be creating a large disparity
What does create a large disparity is low voter turnout
There are 4 times (twice and our lifetime) with the Electoral and popular vote differed – so generally it works.
The 2 times in our lifetime are this one and 2000
2000 in my mind was very close and a reasonable anomaly
It was also pushed to be inconsistent bc of a 3rd party (Nader)
And a huge fla voting controversy
But 2000 was normal in my view and an acceptable result
2016 having a 3 mil difference indicates something is wrong
And what’s wrong is people aren’t voting
So the EC doesn’t match the popular vote
A good demonostrtion of this is to look at the other two times
The other 2 times he EC and thenpopulat vote didn’t match
Was after the civil war during the reconstruction years
In 2 of the 3 elections after Lincoln was shot
The EC and he popular vote didn’t match
Can you imagine the mindset at the time. How many southerners do you think weren’t partipating in federal politics in this years having just split from the nation?
Low voter turnout skewed the southern vote so that less votes were necessary to win southern states at that time
So I think the EC is fine – what’s not fine, isnlow boter turnout numbers
To me that should be the emphasis (not Russia or every other scandal)
Mitch McConnell is refusing to put a bill on the senate floor for debate and a vote which makes Election Day a national holiday. In his own words we don’t need anymore holidays. That’s a scandal worth talking about IMO
Seriously? It’s this type of rhetoric and fake news that has no place in debate or discourse. It stirs the pot and is flat out ignorant.
Krishna — what’s the win for the board on talking about such? And think a joking stir the pot was what was intended. Used to be abortion, gun rights and religion got people in fights…. now talking Trump if the 4th one.
What if history is a by definition a speculative place to go and if you guys want to go politics on a football board — I wish Trump had bought the Bills in 2014. Think now would be much happier both as a Phins Fan and a US Citizen/classic GOP guy. Figure he would have been trying to move the team to Vegas though.
They would have been the Toronto Golden Showers by now
That is a good one! LMAO!
Krishna, the electoral college is in place to give people who live in less populated area an equal say. I’m not for abolishing the electoral college even if Trump was able to manipulate the system for his benefit and still be elected with 3mil less votes.
CNN is biased, but FOX isn’t? I think they both have an agenda. My sense is CNN is interested in making Trump look more ridiculous than he already is, while FOX is interested in using misdirection by bringing up alleged misdeeds of previous adminstrations any time Trump is accused of anything. Avoid hypocrisy (by calling out both sides), regardless of where you fall.
I don’t watch cnn
When I watch news I watch msnbc which is pretty liberal
And I don’t watch it as news I watch it for what it is – a round table of opinions
The 24 hour news cycle, access to Internet and somewhat lazy programming has really affected the way we get news
I dont think you can rely on CNN, MSNBC or Fox for information
But I don’t think it makes them worthy of criticism
They are just saying whatever their audience agrees with already
CNN is interesting lately Bc they seem to be focused on getting back some trump supporters – I kind of think CNN is heading towards failure and I’m. It sure Fox isn’t far behind
I don’t either- haven’t in years. If I watch news, it’s local and then I might catch ABC Network news. Used to be big into the roundtable discussions on Sunday morning and the McLaughlin Group, but since he died I just lost interest in that type of program.
Give Meet the Press a chance. Or any of the Sunday morn shows on whatever channel. They all are less worried about chasing the latest story.
Media bias or slant has always been there, but of man is it more pronounced now. Miss the days when Walter Cronkite said what had actually happened and the whole country took that as the starting point for discussion.
It’s my understanding the EC was created because Congress couldn’t trust the people to make the “right” choice or were too stupid/uninformed. If that’s the case, then what’s the point of an election by the people?
I think you will get a lot of different theories on why the EC was created
But the one I think makes the most sense is that it was created to keep out foreign interference
That’s isn’t exactly lack of trust like you are suggesting but it’s close to the idea
I think the forefathers wanted a buffer in place so that an electorate was in place to actually submit the votes – but that buffer is supposed to be consistent with the popular vote
The EC and the popular vote are not designed to have such disparate results
It was a compromise for the smaller states worried that populous states like NY, Penn and Virginia would dominate if all the colonies united. Same reason the small states (mainly the “flyover” ones) like today. Cal and Wyoming/Vermont/Dakotas each get 2 senators.
Sorry, Stanger, and to the blog.
Stay the course!
No reason to say sorry….. these issues get folks going and you didn’t start. But all part of what happens.
WTF Piggy! I didn’t say anything about illegals “were” voting. I said what I said hoping he would expand on what he meant by “everyone”. That is all. I didn’t need to hear MAGA this or MAGA that. I never ever claimed illegals were voting. I was just hoping that was not what he was referring to. Plain and simple cause there are some on the far left who believe they should be able to vote.
Never mind Krishna.
My mistake and my apologies
That’s the way I read your comment
I don’t think illegals should be able to vote FWIW
I’ll say this about when I discuss politics here it’s usually against the left wing radicals. I’m not a fan of Trump nor did I vote for him. But I find myself defending him sometimes due to accusations that I think are false and propaganda like him being a white supremacist and racist. He lacks couth, he’s brash, an egomaniac and doesn’t know when to shut up a lot of the time.
Do I wish we had a more dignified president, yes. But I also feel there are plenty of pols on the left that are hypocrites and have an anti-American agenda that I feel is more dangerous than Trump. We’ll survive him. Not sure we’ll survive if anti-American representatives keep being voted into congress. Oh and by the way, some of the freshman Democratic house reps are openly bigoted and racist.
This is my view and I don’t wish to debate it because there is nothing to debate. That’s how I feel and those opinions didn’t come to fruition overnight.
As for politics on this blog, there are conservatives, progressives, libertarians and moderates here. It’s not bias.
That is exactly where I am at.
Oh I left out that when I discuss politics here or in general it’s also about me having a problem with both parties because of the games they play instead of doing the work of the people. It’s as if they’re playing their own game and we don’t even matter.
Tim
Defending Trump when you don’t actually like him bc you don’t like radical liberals – makes no sense to me
This is exactly what he thrives on
If Trump wasn’t pointing the finger at some one else and saying “they are worse than me” no one would support him.
His politics are antogonositc in nature. That’s the game he as always played
Those theatrics are the best way to get free press coverage even if it’s not positive. Trump practically invented the phrase “there’s no such thing as bad press”
Reacting to some one being attacked and questioning why he is attacked is a foods thing IMO – but it’s also something shitbags thrive on
Do you ever wonder how Kellyann Conway and her husband (a vocal Trump critic) go to bed together at night.
Politics are always going to be like this when trump leads the charge
He loves the theater and always has
I made clear what I defend Trump about. Other than that I don’t like the guy. I’ve been anti-left since the 90’s long before Trump was president and it’s getting worse. I also don’t refer to the radical left as radical liberals because they’re anything but liberal.
Krishna says:
March 25, 2019 at 11:39 am
Approximately, 3,000,000 MORE people voted for the other candidate. Let’s start with our election laws and give everyone the right to vote…..isn’t that in the constitution?
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Actually no. The Constitution does not contemplate the popular vote at all, only the Electoral College. How the states set up there EC representatives is up to them, but the number matches the number of congressional reps.
I’m tired of this debate. It’s clear why there is the EC and why it’s been used for over 200 years but now it needs to change because one side lost. If you want CA, TX, FL and NY to decide all presidential elections, by all means get rid of the EC.
Correct but whats interesting is that – The house is a direct reflection of the population in the state
While the senate is just plain ole 2 per state
I’m pretty sure population of citizens goes hand and hand with the EC as designed, bc the difference, 2 per state, is really not a big difference
Also every person does have the right to vote under the constitution. The 15th, 19th and 26 amendment, so technically Krishna was right – everyone has a right to vote – but I don’t think either of you meant that people don’t have a right and I’m just being a real nudge by nitpicking 🐖💨
Here’s an example of how the EC effects my vote by I don’t look to abolish it. I knew going in Hillary wins NJ by a comfortable margin so it’s easy for me to vote libertarian as a protest vote because voting republican against her wasn’t going to matter either.
I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 (yes he ran in 2012 too) bc I knew Obama would easily win NY
But in 2016 I had concerns Trump would win
So I voted for Hillary in spite of not really liking her
I should have specified the 12th Amendment which provides the procedure for electing the President and Vice President. I think the 15th, 19th, and 26th were more about ensuring the right to vote in general (i.e. state elections, etc.) for blacks, women and 18 year olds respectively.
One thing I have to say about the electoral college is that no one had a problem with it until Hillary lost. Them’s are the facts!
Democrats definitely had a problem with it when Gore lost in 2000
One of the problems with this discussion now is that it is so partisan over 2 elections – which I think was your point
I think of you asked me in 1999 if I was okay with the EC instead of a popular vote – I might tell you “why do we need an EC instead of just a popular vote”
But it wasn’t really the kind of thing I spent a lot of time with
The difference between 3 million votes should be an eye opener though
That’s not supposed to be the design of it IMO
That said, the steps to preserve our democracy should not center around the EC bs the popular vote – but instead stopping voter suppression and bribing people out to vote
Less than 59% of elible voters voting is pitiful
Way it is set up the electoral college will never go away — would take a whole lot of states voting to give up a relative power position. That multi-state compact they have going where states with enough EC votes agree to go with the popular vote might though. Don’t need a change to the Constitution for that.
What do you mean by multi state compact?
Tried posting a link, but didn’t show up (but you are an admin so can see). Here’s the start of what was there. And yeah it is a Dem thing.
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The National Popular Vote interstate compact would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. The bill ensures that every vote, in every state, will matter in every presidential election. The National Popular Vote bill preserves the Electoral College and state control of elections.
The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 13 jurisdictions possessing 181 electoral votes, including four small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC), five medium- size states (CO, CT, MD, MA, WA), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA). The bill will take effect when enacted by states with 89 more electoral votes. The bill is on the governor’s desk in Delaware and New Mexico. The bill has previously passed at least one chamber in 8 additional states with 72 more electoral votes. A total of 3,125 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it.
It happened to Gore too so it opened up that boo boo again. Why are some Democrats suggesting to lower the voting age to 16? What could that possibly be all about? 😉
That’s an obvious attempt to get Democrat votes
Honestly I don’t think it’s such a bad idea
We wouldn’t be the first country to do that
And young people do have legit concerns Bc they bare the brunt in things like education and the the envrinment
But I doubt 16 years old voting picks up steam
Technically that’s amending the 26th amendment
It’s happened 5 times in our history- popular vote winner lost electoral college. I would assume those people in that time period were as up in arms as the pro Hillary faction is/was. It’s relevance to today might be questionable..
I think its 4th
2000
2016
and 2 times in a 12 year period after the civil war
what’s the 5th time?
Am I missing one?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/93441516
From my glimpse into politics in the halls and offices — learned look for the good people. The ones with integrity, the ones who are willing to go against their party’s stance cause they feel strongly about an issue (even if didn’t always like when they did cause went against what I wanted).
Never had respect for the party hacks and the legislative leaders whose main pursuit was keeping their own party hacks in line to keep their own power hated most of all.
Piggy, 16 is way too young to me. Even 18 is as most young people that age range don’t even care or know anything about politics. Most will vote based on who their idols say they should vote for. You know, “Rock the Vote”, “Vote for Change” etc. That’s when celebrities get involved and use their influence and we all know what they mean when they say “Vote for Change”.
meanwhile 70 year olds are reading facebook misinformation every day and grown men and women are buying into conspiracies like Q and pizzagate
at least 16 year olds know how to use the internet and can look things up
the reason 16 year olds will never be able to vote is bc it has no political traction
to amend the constitution willprobably take more than 2 years and they will be 18 by the time it passes so what is the point.
at least when the 26th amendment was added there was an argument to make about being elligible to fight in wars
but once the amendment was ratified, the procedure to modify it -became significantly longer, so anyone pushing for eligibility is getting older as that happens and it becomes moot
Honestly I’m not so sure that political sophistication in 16years old is any worse than the elderly or middle age persons and I don’t think celebrities are less politcally savy than non-celebrities
I would not let a 16 year pick the music on my iPhone
the junk they listen to (sigh)
I’m kind of a cynic though – I think the majority of voters are idiots anyway – adding more to the pot doesn’t change that
Oh you are right
I missed one: in 1824 John Quicy Adams beat Andrews Jackson in the EC but Jackson won the popular vote
I stand corrected – 5 times
thanks Trypod
I do not believe that 16 year olds have the life experience or maturity to vote. Heck, i feel the same about 18 year olds, but that was done to match up with the draft age.
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pheloniusphish says:
March 25, 2019 at 1:25 pm
I should have specified the 12th Amendment which provides the procedure for electing the President and Vice President. I think the 15th, 19th, and 26th were more about ensuring the right to vote in general (i.e. state elections, etc.) for blacks, women and 18 year olds respectively.
gotcha – I was just nitpicking on the semantics
not disagreeing
Regarding the 3 million vote disparity. I think that’s EXACTLY the reason the electoral college exists. Those 3M votes were overwhelmingly cast in large urban centers.
I don’t think the EC is about distinguishing the urban areas from rural arears
That’s just the climate we live in
If you compare that 3M to other results where the pop vote was greater than the EC, there isn’t that huge of a disparity
2000 for instance was a little over half a million difference
3 million is a big number to live with
if you combine Clinton popular vote with the third parties
its close to72 million against trumps 62 million
asking 72 million people to accept that result bc they don’t live in rural areas (or for any reason) is going to create an ugly political climate
a smaller number is an acceptable anomaly
a larger number is problematic IMO
If you dont think illegals are voting, why won’t the dems allow the remove of dead people from the voter rolls? Why isnt a photo I’d required to vote?
Here in NV they sent all the buses from a local bus line to Ca. to pick up people to vote in NV for dead people still on the rolls. The buses took them to 10 different early voting locations, the pay was a free weekend in Vegas.
In NY the guy in charge of voting was caught on tape, Project Veritas, saying how they’ve been cheating for 50 years.
In Florida they found a mail room full of already filled out ballets.
But yeah keep believing our elections aren’t rigged.
both major parties cheat and lie like hell,
almost all are corrupt and for sale to the highest bidder.
thats a big part of the reason Im independent
I don’t know any push to leave dead people on the voter rolls. I think when that happens, its just bc the family of the deceased doesn;t report the death to the board of elections
but it has no effect – you still need to register to vote in every state including Nevada
So in order to bus people in to replace a dead person on the voting roll
that person would have had to register to vote first between the last election and the deadline, then die, then some one needs to find out about it, that some one needs a political agenda – then they need to coordinate the bussing and not get caught. I think that’s far fetched – But that’s your neck of the woods, not mine, so if you saw it first hand, I would not contest it.
I will tell you a good reason not to push for voter ID laws – bc your ID is confirmed when you register
So asking people to verify their ID at the polls after they already did is just going to cause longer lines and more havoc at voting and I think that will suppress the vote – people won’t want to deal with it. the laws vary from state to state – but asking people to verify street addresses is problematic on places like indian reservations where there isno street address.
project veritas is a propaganda outlet. they have know way of verifying what they are spewing. The majority of every states have privacy laws (for good reason) to protect govt intrusion or 3rd party intrusion into the electorates. I’ve seen the way that organization does their business – and its not in the least bit credible.
Catching some guy on tape saying something that isn’t confirmed by documentation is really the low end of evidence – but in this case, the guys name is Howard Schulkin, (the NYC commissioner board of elections) and he was not caught with anything except criticizing DeBlasio’s policy to give out voter IDs and speculating that it can lead to voter fraud. He did not coordinate anything himself. He just is saying that he doesn’t like the mayor’s voter ID law. I would encourage you to review the interview with him. He’s competeley speculating on something he would never know for a fact
here’s a link
https://www.projectveritas.com/2016/10/11/hidden-camera-nyc-democratic-election-commissioner-they-bus-people-around-to-vote/
AND BTW thats NYC and I live In NYC. Its as blue as blue gets. No one was voting for trump in NYC, bussing people around had nothing to do with it. He’s hated here.
These things you mentioned are just rumors – that’s not evidence
Rockphin says:
March 25, 2019 at 11:20 am
WHAT!?? I am shaking my head at he can’t be bought! He has more personal conflicts of interest than any other president in history. He is the MOST susceptible to being bought of any president ever.
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you don’t know what you’re talking about….It’s a TEAM conflict stat! 🙂
agreed, he is big time bought, its easy money, , he dont have to work too hard, just make corrupt deals over golf. listen to the oil execs laughing on the recording about Trump “access”
its what rich guys do, im not condoning it,just mentioning it.
its wrong of course
what you’re doing is blowing off your mouth with unproven BS to support your moronic opinion.
Piggy, agreed on 70 years old buying into and posting misinformation on FB and social media etc. I see that first hand from some older family members who support anything Trump says or does. From time to time I post saying that’s not true and give a link. But it’s so overwhelming that it’s not even worth it, they’re locked in and can’t be swayed. But the left becoming more radical is what makes them like that. Many of my older family members are military vets and have kids who are or were in the military, and some of their grandchildren are going to be, so anti-American sentiments doesn’t fly with them. I see how divided we are as a nation in my very small circle alone.
Add law enforcement to that dynamic as well. Lots of peeps I went to school with who became police officers feel attacked as well so they easily go to the side that supports them. I’m amazed at how many potheads I grew up with that are conservatives these days. It’s the anti-American crap the left is pushing not that they love all republicans. Most people think our government is corrupt on both sides and are huge fans of term limits because of that.
I think some of the things you are calling anti-American are actually the younger generation
The younger generation is a little different than us – in so many ways
they’ve grown up with the internet and after the cold war ended
They think much different about everything
pheloniusphish says:
March 25, 2019 at 10:19 am
ORob – I think we get a 4th this year or a 3rd next year for Quinn.
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That would be fabulous…….is that speculation or a fact???
Speculation
I employ 16 yr olds all the time. If they start voting, i’m just going to move to Canada with Toba! LOL
LOL
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just wanted a room opinion, Omar has us picking a OL in the first, and Lock going to Denver.
i also believe Denver is into Lock, but I dont know Who Miami wants other than they seem enamored by Lock on the surface.
so what to do,,,,,Do we trade ahead of Denver,for Lock, or take a OL?
Don’t be surprised if the Giants go Lock over Haskins.
I’m not really interested in Lock, I want Haskins, but if Grier wants Lock, I’m all in
America is well represented here. Has a single person moved even the slightest hair off any position they held prior to the beginning of this spirited discourse?
Nope, but I tell ya, it’s nice that all the comments I’m reading are staying respectful even in the face of complete disagreement.
So true Kong, none of us are budging a 1/10 of an inch, but at least today, we’re peaceful.
lol, I rolled my eyes when I started reading the beginning of today’s thread, figuring this would turn into a shit show real fast. Then I kept reading, and reading…
You guys have actually convinced me buy a MAGA hat and go to the next trump rally…
(Piggy pukes)
LOL, Piggy.
Not sure why I’m part of you guys though. Although I don’t agree with everything you put out there, I am no fan of Trump and for the most part agree with your take on him. Keep fighting the good fight!
Ididn;t think you were a trump guy, I just could not resist a chance to be a smart ass
Business usually has some crooked dealings, but nothing has more crooked dealings than a career politician!
Term limits!!!!!!!
Oh yeah! Good timing on that one Kong
Cav — actually like how Cal has it set up with full-time politicians and term limits (unless change three 2-year terms in the House and two 4-year terms in the Senate). They get paid to do the job all year long instead of for a few months part-time like in a lot of states and the leadership at the top changes over instead of becoming entrenched.
It’s the nature of the beast for all too many. Throughout our history how many law enforcement officials and politicians have been bought by organized crime? Too many!
This is so damn sad. Then again there are knuckleheads out there that still say Sandy Hook never happened. Unbelievable!
really sad
Right their children and loved ones aren’t really dead, they were all props. SMH
This is very sad, the grief is so overwhelming they can’t deal with it.
I think there was a kid from Parkland that committed suicide over the weekend too wasnt there?
Yea, very sad, its a damn shame radical conspiracists hassle the shit out of sandy hook parents.
As if losing a child wasn’t painful enough by itself.
It would be better if they spent time improving their own lives, instead of inflicting pain on strangers that never harmed them
Piggy, a lot of the anti-American sentiments I see are due to ignorance about what are nation is, how our government works and the lack of understanding about what socialism is.
There is understanding what Socialism is supposed to be and then understanding what it is, when implemented by Human Beings. Until you can take greed out of human nature, there is almost 0 chance to have Socialism and Communism work. Its also really frigging hard to mix in a socialist sub system into a capitalistic society. Most of our systems aren’t bad, they just lack oversight. There is need for reform in almost every facet of our government and yet it seems that people just wanna replace one corrupt one with another.Spend some times making the current one work right before you move on to another half ass attempt.
Good post. Free people don’t want to be viewed as subjects and live their lives as such. We’re not ants where everything is about the queen and serving her survival even though in their world her survival is all of their survival.
I think I’m done for the day folks
I have to do some work today
sorry If I sounded like I jumped down anyone’s throat – not my intent
and Steve, it was good to see you pop in here (even though I disagreed with you)
Come again and talk football with us – always like your perspective
You are a liar, you lefties never like anything that isnt right along with your AGENDA! of course im JKBB, all pigs are communist anyways, everyone knows this.
Piggy is brilliant imo. A little Eccentric, most geniuses are. It’s a process that keeps their mind sharp through self entertainment, that’s a bit off the beaten path to keep things interesting, I.e. Flying pig.
but he can see the trees, when many only see the forest
Had to perform an exorcism today. My Catholic wife was having problems with the TV remote, and no matter what button she hits only 6 comes up. So every time she tries keeps ending up 666…. and when it first came up she was trying to DVR a History Channel series called “Jesus: His Life.”
She was freaked out. Tried all the resets and such, but when that didn’t work she wanted me to throw the remote out. Talked her into calling U-verse first and as am calling look down and see the “6” button is stuck down.
LOL
That’s funny!
That was too easy for you to let go of. I would had at least anther 3-4 hours worth of fun out of that.
Can guarantee wouldn’t have been 3-4 hours of fun with my wife. She’s tough as anything….. used to be a parole officer in Anacostia, which is like the South Bronx of DC. Scares the heck out of me.
That is absolutely hilarious…. 🙂
ocalarob says:
March 25, 2019 at 2:01 pm
what you’re doing is blowing off your mouth with unproven BS to support your moronic opinion.
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Sweet Baby Jesus, ORob…You made me spit water out of my nose!
No one budges on their political feelings because its almost impossible to offer an convincing counter argument. They are both (rep and dems) crooks, they are both self serving, they are both assholes. Each are flawed which the opposing side can see as bright as day, and while that same side cant really spot it in their own. Its like judging terds in a toilet bowl, no matter how much you might prefer one to the other, its still shit.
Signing X early would make money sense if they want to keep him…. early comes with a discount. Long way from where a lot of us were wondering if he was a wasted draft pick.
I was always high on Howard especially after the 2nd half of the 2017 season where he started to raise the level of his play and it continued into 2018.
Yes. Lock him up
Early comes with a “now” pricing model, aka more predictable salary evaluation, less competitive bidding and not a pressure sale. It can be a gamble, because next years CB market might be such that he wouldnt be the top guy, which could help us get him under a cheaper deal, but given his age, etc. I doubt very seriously he wouldn’t get pretty close to top dollar.
IMO id give him a big contract offer, but id shoot for more guaranteed money and less per year cap hit, spread it out. Its unlikely as young as he is that guaranteed money carried through the whole contract is going to be a burden for us and it will be an incentive for him to sign if we give him significant guarantees each year.
D, two Parkland students committed suicide recently within days of each other.
ER.. Canada would be Happy to have ya.. come on up….
Can’t have him – We need to keep the asshole:good people ratio down.
well then you can come up too to even it out .. 🙂
LOL!
Toba,
How’s everything going with you ?
Yeah. Good to see you! All healed up?
I’ve been lurking in the shadows most days , mostly reading and laffing at the silliness at night.. thank you for asking… 🙂
not too bad buddy.. minor annoyance with my right eye tearing up for no reason,but for the most part back up to snuff… and it appears that Spring HAS Sprung.. Balmy 34 F and sunny here.. 🙂
Good to hear you are doing better. Elf Piss will help your eye.
Elf Piss will blind me so I no longer have sight !!!
I think 16 year olds are far more knowledgeable than 90 year olds.
Also, the youguns are voting for their future, what’s a 90 year old voting for.? To control others futures, he doesn’t have much left.
If 16 is old enough to drive a car on these crazy ass deadly highways, surely they could fill in a blank in a voting booth, Lol
Even a senile 90 year old without a computer or functioning brain or organs can vote, why not a healthy young mind, some are more intelligent than us.
Why don’t they get to vote for their future? Why should 90 year olds, dictate their future, when they won’t even be around for a future?
Because the younguns don’t have money to lobby for the right to vote,
Or the people in congress, want senile minds to manipulate, who don’t ask questions, or protest, they are too old.
They seem afraid of a sharp young mind that actually owns a computer to research the candidates
Elderly people are voting for Medicare/Medicaid among other things and should be really concerned about proposed budget cuts (by Trump) to those programs
But they aren’t really getting that information from Facebook and Fox News and while we argue about Russian collusion and who’s racists, we miss opportunities to spread this information to them – the reality is elderly people in America are the most vulnerable right now.
I get your point, and it’s similar to mine earlier today – but I want elderly people to vote and I think they earned it
I’m just not sure everyone should assume 16 years olds voting is so absurd given the way many adults Waste their votes anyway
If it was their right – I bet most of them (16 year olds) wouldn’t register and do it anyway
In 2016 about 50% of voters 18-29 voted
That’s below the national avg of 59% (rounded) which is a pitiful starting point – so about half of people under 30 who can vote actually do it
But 18-30 is a broad range and I bet there’s a huge disparity when you get closer to 18 rather than closer to 30
I can’t say I trust the wisdom of most 16 yearsnold
But I susoect if it was legal to vote at 16, probably we’ll under 50% would do it
Interesting article on young voter turnout
https://civicyouth.org/an-estimated-24-million-young-people-vote-in-2016-election/
16 year olds isn’t exactly where I want to hang my hat
But I’m not so sure it deserves the skepticism it gets given those 16 year olds deal with the consequences.
Plus the easiest way to get the 16 year old vote would be to propose free higher ed, like UK, so it’s a pretty easy vote to manipulate
Why not make the age 10 then? Leave it at 18 and once you can vote you can always vote. You’re making it more complicated than it needs to be. 90 year olds have been a part of this country longer than teens so to now discriminate against them is just one more unnecessary divide we’ll have. Let that one go, David.
If you think a majority of 16 or even 18 year olds are all engaged in politics I’d like to know where you’re hanging out? LOL
^^^
Most 16 year olds are smarter than 90 year olds
What’s the big deal, drivers on the road are 16.
Some elderly people cannot drive anymore, but can vote?
It’s not about what kids want to do, maybe they want to play video games, no one is required to vote.
But I do feel that 16 year olds are quite capable of voting, if they had the right. They are old enough to get murdered in school, that’s old enough to vote on matters to their safety.
The suicides are out of hand, and very sad. They need a voice, and their parents need respect
If giving them a voice, helps out these shooting victims, yet another reason to do it.
They deserve the right to vote for their safety, they don’t deserve to be victims or political pawns
In FL, if an unscrupulous salesperson tricks, deceives, or manipulates a senior citizen, that’s a felony.
Why? Because it’s totally unfair, they have lost a good bit of their faculties and are vulnerable.
But when the government manipulates the seniors, it’s NOT a crime, it’s a strategy to get elected, SMH
I’ve been in thousands of seniors homes doing Ac work, I treat em with respect , even if others don’t
But I also see they don’t own computers, and believe whatever a hot piece of ass tells them on fox entertainment network. Every old guy likes looking at ass, lmao. I’ve seen em drool in person and the wife complains, lol
Fox intentionally targets the elderly with big colorful font, gorgeous women, and silly conspiracies, they don’t get outside the box to learn the real truth, they simply aren’t able too
I’ve been in 150000 homes over 30 years, and the customers over 80, always have the fox entertainment network on.
I asked a lady the other day, does he always watch fox. Does he like Netflix or movies, anything else?
She says I hate fox, he’s always drooling over beautiful women and ignores her, but he won’t even watch movies on Netflix, even though they do subscribe to Netflix
It’s like an unhealthy addiction she was explaining to Me, I had to agree that even if You somehow trust these gorgeous supermodels in short skirts to reveal a truth from time to time, it’s good to watch other things to be well rounded
15,000
hey you just raised Fox’s ratings 10 pts.
ps I sent you an email about those stocks.
Fox ratings are no concern of mine, but it sucks how they manipulate seniors, it should be a felony like when a salesperson does it.
it is obvious to Me That when the 90 year olds die off, their ratings will tank, I never see people less than 65 watch that garbage
If we’re going to lower the voting age to 16, I say we should lower the age to 16 for…
1) Drinking alcohol
2) Smoking cigarettes
3) Purchasing guns
4) Face the death penalty as an adult
5) Graduating high school
6) Jury duty
7) Going to war
Want it both ways? I didn’t think so. And here’s just a fun little fact: the human brain doesn’t stop developing until roughly the age of 25… though drugs and alcohol can stunt that growth. I’m sorry, but the liberals/democrats have gone bat-$#!t crazy over this issue, and all because Hillary wasn’t coronated in the ’16 election.
Same thing with the proposal to get rid of the EC. SMH
You can join the military at 17
There are a ton of states (I think around 30) where some one under 18 can buy a rifle or shotgun (not usually a handgun)
And children can be tried and sentenced as an adult in most states
I just quickly read some info on this
But is SC in 1944 a 14 year old got the electric chair
And in 1927 in Fla, a 10 year old was sentenced to death (but executed 13 years later at 23)
Since 1976 22 minors have been sentenced to death (all no younger than 17)
There is no age min to graduate high school – don’t you watch Doogie Howser…lol
So by my count the majority of the things you mentioned can apply to minors
I don’t think you will get a lot of opposition from 16 years old on alcohol or cogerretes age dropping – but parents will hate it
Jury duty though – no one wants that
Dude! *shoulder shrug*
It’s too bad You can’t get over Hillary losing, their are legit concerns now, she isn’t one of them.
Armando, for the love all living things, please let the tank stuff go and now questioning this “NEW…Dolphins GM Chris Grier thinks keeping Ryan Tannehill last few years was not a mistake. Why that’s troubling.
I didn’t even read the article, the title tells me all I need to know coming from Armando.
Here’s a quick run down about Tannehill:
2016 he was progressing before getting hurt.
2017 he missed the entire season.
2018 they gave him a chance to rebound from injury and continue his progress. It didn’t work out and they moved on in 2019. There was nothing wrong with that.
Good to hear Toba! Dont worry bout that eye tearing up. We are Dolphin fans and I know I tear up all the time!
The NRA doesn’t want children getting shot in schools voting, they know how the kids would vote, and that’s harmful to their profits.
They believe Gun makers profits are more important than safe children.
They need to be good little targets and be quiet.
I’m sure the children would vote otherwise, that’s the big fear of those in control, so they gaslight others into thinking 16 is just too young. 90 is ok
And the economic elite continue to keep the peasants squabbling amongst themselves while they rob us blind and maintain control. Revolution!!! Where’s my damn musket?
+1000000000000000000000
And… LOL!
Is that a lyric from a song?
It sounds like one.
MaraLAgo 6,
We’ll leave the gaslight on
The NRA contributed heavily to the Potus campaign, so the hell with dying kids, stop whining over lost children? smh
What happened to empathy? Compassion? Representation?
Human rights are Not needed in an authoritarian government, just shut up and take your punishment so others can profit
MF, parents of schoolchildren are committing suicide, don’t make this about Hillary, that’s not the solution
They want real answers, that can help them. I believe a voice would help, it certainly wouldn’t hurt
All the other things you say lower the age limit, seemingly is a distraction to this one particular issue.
Think of the parents and children instead of Hillary. Hillary doesn’t need anything, THEY do
I’m not talking about school children, though my prayers go out to these recent suicides. VERY saddening. 😦
But it’s related bro, the suicides are because these people have been ostracized. Their children are dead, No one is making them feel safe, and if we could give them a voice, and it may help, I’m all for it.
They sure as hell don’t deserve what they are getting, they are killing themselves, cause NOBODY helped them in their time of need
Somebody should help them before more perish
The legal voting age in Brazil is 16
And they have a right wing nut as President
So it doesn’t always go left
Austria is the only European country with a voting age of 16
18 is pretty standard stuff around the world
In case you were wondering
http://cdn3.chartsbin.com/chartimages/l_re6_5fe8b1622bdaf121fb8916d2976d23d1
But this is AMERICA, my porcine friend!
Okay
That doesn’t stop us from looking elsewhere to see how it works elsewhere and draw distinctions or note similarities
we can make informed decisions about what we want to do with all the information available to us.
In this case, like I said, 18 is the norm
I can’t really say we are out of touch with the rest of the world
So why even bring it up??? We’re doing alright!
I didn’t bring it up. I just inserted my .02 – as you did
I wouldn’t say we are doing alright in terms of voting and the results – 59% of eligible voters voting is not alright, it’s pitiful
I would say, the bigger issue is more people who are legally permitted to vote should be voting, rather than expanding who can vote
I think it’s worth focusing on rather than lowering the age
David, you’re going way out there again. Reel it back in a bit. You’re creating an age discrimination war that is unnecessary. You’ve earned the right to vote as long and you’re alive an able. Don’t compare it to driving because they’re more physically impaired. They also can’t shovel snow anymore. So they can’t vote either. Show a little more respect for the elderly than that. This coming from you surprises me.
I want to see you tell a WWII vet wearing their military cap who is on line to vote that he/she shouldn’t have that right anymore. Think about that.
I’m not going to engage in this topic anymore. You can reply but there’s nothing else I could say other than what I said here.
^^^
Sorry if I care for the kids, and you don’t
If giving them a voice helps, why oppose it? No one dies from voting, it’s a simple act. It it’s a voice, it’s important to people
Ignoring kids getting murdered, and parents committing suicide, isn’t a viable solution, not even close.
It’s the problem
Mando must be bored and looking for clicks. What’s Grier supposed to say? If our GM threw one of the hardest working, toughest, and plain ol great man under the bus for no reason, then I’d be questioning that!
When I was 11, my civics class teacher asked us if Nixon should be reelected,
My answer was no, he lies to Us about Vietnam, And isn’t good for us. Was that correct?
Lmao, 50 years later, Yea, it was
I’m not suggesting 11 year olds can vote, but when I was 16, I could vote for sure by then, it’s very simple, fill in a blank in a box, lmao. If they can get high score on donkey kong, surely they could check a simple box, probably faster and easier than most
The thing that took Me over the edge, is giving them a voice, they are committing suicide out of despair, let’s not make them pawns, let’s help them, err on the side of children’s safety.
We aren’t any different, but We didn’t get shot when we went to school, if we did, we would have wanted solutions too
Babywhining over political semantics isn’t the solution, listening to their needs is
This is the worst time of year for Mando
Actually this and the period before rookie report
I think Omar is even worse this time of year (man, he knows it ALL!!!).
They are all bad
None of them know a thing about the prospects
It’s kind of lazy reporting in general
If it was my job to write about football – I would be doing in depth look at prospects right now instead of what either of them do
Yeah let’s take voter age on as another issue because we’ve done such a good job finding solutions for all the other divides in this country. Gee what will happen next – 16 years olds having protests saying it’s their future and should have the right to vote too.
We can’t just say our voting process from the legal structure point of view is fine, leave it alone? Not counting voter fraud. Why do we keep digging more holes when we haven’t planted anything in the ones we already have.
I mean when does the asinine stuff stop? I guess I did have more to say about it. LOL
You think voter fraud is the only problem with our elections?
No, Gerrymandering too. But we already know it’s a game that pols play. We can’t find a solution for that either, so let’s add more to the list. Term limits would be great but the people having their terms limited are voting on it. LOL
I don’t really get the thing with term limits
I think voter suppression is my number one issue
Gerrymandering as well – but that’s no so much a federal issue
Voting or keeping children safe, isn’t asisine, its prudent, and it’s a problem that needs to be addressed.
Ignoring problems, NEVER solves them
And once again, ^^^
That’s for Tim.
Piggy is right, sometimes there are students as young as 15 years old in Ivy League schools.
They can’t check a damn box? Lmao then why does Harvard, Yale, etc think they are brilliant, and accepted them?
Doogie houser could figure out how to vote, if not, ask and the people there will show You how to fill in a blank , or click on a name.
It’s the easiest thing ever, driving is far more difficult and dangerous, thousands die on the roads every year, many are teens
Pig is citing an exception, not the rule. C’mon, Brah.
I first took my SATs in 7th grade (NOT KIDDING). Do ya have any idea how much I knew about politics, the way the world works, or law? I knew ZERO.
There is a HUGE difference between intelligence and experience/wisdom.
How intelligent are 90 year olds? Why should we deny the children being murdered in school a voice? To keep the repubs in office? Help the NRA?
Cmon bro, let’s think about Americans and our rights before we consider NRA profits, or political games to get elected
When the Parkland shooting happened, the NRA and supporters said, this isn’t a good time to discuss it.
But over a year passed, still no time? Then that was a lie,they don’t give a shit about anything but profiting at our demise.
Now he parents are committing suicide, still a bad time? Wtf, every suicide is the fault of those that were in power to do something, but only paid lip service, and went on with their rich spoiled lives, while unfortunates got murdered
Broward County. Look up how corrupt that entire county has become. Look at Sheriff Israel, look at the patrolman who ran scared when shots rang out, and look at Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
More distractions, look at the dead kids, and the parents committing suicide, priorities My man. Lip service from the NRA supported potus only keeps the problem going, and leaves millions of Americans unsafe, with no voice
Corrupt officials should be prosecuted, of course, but we didn’t do shit a year ago about parkland, and aren’t doinshit now.
I suggest we do something about it besides ignore dead kids over profits and votes, that’s lame as hell and does nothing to provide safety for children and parents
Of course the voting right won’t solve all problems, but it would give the innocent victims a voice they don’t have.
I’m all for it 😎
Is it really so important to get a republican elected, that we allow children to be murdered in school, and parents commit suicide? How far has society sunk?
This is Yet another reason to hate the two party system, I’m gonna be independent for life
David,
We decided as a society long ago that an artbitrary line was set at 18 being an “adult”. Of course there are 16 year olds who are smart/mature/informed enough to vote wisely. But, there are many who are not too. Yes 18 is an arbitrary number in many ways, but a line has to be set somewhere. Why stop at 16, as it’s completely arbitrary too? Why not allow 10 year olds to vote? Where does your line of thinking stop? We already have enough morons voting. Do we really need to add millions more just because school violence has risen? And, by the way, we have no guarantee kids will vote as you suggest they will or that it will stop violence in schools.
16 is old enough to drive a 4,000 pound car at high speeds in public,
but voting is dangerous? Lol. What’s the real harm? Young people might want a voice? Let’s deny the voice?
It’s just a vote bro, it’s not DIY nuclear weapon making.
No one would be harmed, and the innocents would have a voice.
If no more suicides happened because of it, was it worth it to piss off the greedy NRA?
I say it is, just my .02
For the record
I wasn’t citing Doogie Howser – I was making a joke…I guess it fell flat
Lol but there are indeed real life Doogies
Jeremy Bentham studied Latin at the age of three years and entered The Queen’s College, Oxford at the age of 12 years.
Hugo Grotius: entered the University of Leiden to study under Joseph Scaliger at age 11. At age 15 he was acclaimed by King Henry IV of France as the ‘miracle of Holland’.[159]
Saul Kripke was invited to apply for a teaching post at Harvard while still in high school.
John Stuart Mill knew several dead languages by the age of eight years and studied scholastic philosophy at the age of 12 years.
Stephen A. Baccus began studying law at the age of 14 years, graduated from the University of Miami School of Law at the age of 16 years, and passed the Florida Bar Exam at the age of 17 years. He fought minimum-age requirements for bar-exam applicants in both New York and Miami.
There are literally thousands of child prodigies, but they can’t figure out how to vote? Lmao
voting seems much easier than getting a bar exam at 17
Of course 16 year olds are capable
Charlottesville students walked out of class , schools were closed because of racist threats.its obvious this problem wasn’t solved either
Fine people on both sides huh? We need a president that represents ALL American citizens
Not just the ones that kiss his fat ass like a banana republic dictator, ALL of them
And the fake national emergency over the hannity wall wastes our money, does nothing to keep us safe, and doesn’t seem to be as important as golfing
Golf emergency? Voters are watching this shitshow, 2020 will be more of what happened in 2018, Americans don’t like being ignored and trivialized. we were all created equal
I take sides on human rights over dictators, every damn time
The main reason is it’s injustice, the fortunate sons never need our help, the children, down and outs, the forgotten, DO
I had a guy ask me at the inlet, why haven’t I talked with You before? You talk to everyone else, lol
I answered, You are an experienced fisherman, You never need My help.
that 8 year old boy that I helped him free up his stuck line 2 minutes ago from the bottom, needed help, so I did
We’re definitely in a bit of a football doldrum right now, 30 days away from the Draft. It kills me talking politics on a football forum. I’m stepping out from the political discussion, being I realize I’m not going to change anybody’s mind.
I kind of enjoyed today
But I don’t think it’s a good idea to make it the norm around here
Everyone once in a while I like picking the brains of others I disagree with
And I also like challenging them with my ideas
It’s tough to talk football until some news breaks
We didn’t sign any free big agents (I’m happy about that) and there’s not much to talk about
It will get a little more exciting when we see who we draft
I think today’s discussion was good. Nobody got overly excited and called anyone out to the playground afterschool!
Okay this voting topic is going in every direction possible and it’s the perfect example of why nothing gets resolved. America is creating mayhem on every front against themselves. That’s how powerful nations crumble – from within. It’s becoming exhausting. There are plenty of Thomas Paine types out there, but they get overrun with absurdity. SMH
I agree, talking or ignoring, hasn’t solved the problems,
we need real solutions and implementations , before more Americans die needlessly
I’m glad Chris Grier said finding a franchise QB, DL and OL is priority. 🙂
In other news: the ocean is full of water
Did you hear the Titanic was found with the pool still full? LOL
Lol
I remember folks saying I was too young for this or that, it was fun proving the assumptive ignorants wrong, lol
Never tell a kid they can’t do something, they arent old enough to think. Lol. Brain cognition starts in the womb, yes they can think
Btw They will find a way to do it better than You 😎 I’ve seen fathers show their kids how to fish, then the kids show the fathers how to fish, lol
I was one of those kids, my dad couldn’t catch half what I did when I was 7 years old
Consistently catching quality fish is far more difficult than voting
Yes, I’m proud that we all handled ourselves with relative class today discussing serious stuff. No fights, no ill will, and no animals were harmed. 🙂
True that, now if we could just get the ones in power to help us, that would be nice
At the very least , we should not promote division or violence. Making people dead isn’t making them great, smh. It’s counterproductive
It wasn’t all nice today
I farted quite a bit
🐖💨
Where did priorities go, we are concerned with well off or rich people bouncing around uncomfortably on a cruise ship. But No one got murdered. Injuries were minimal.
We didn’t tell the passengers, Now isn’t a good time to rescue You and let em perish. Somebody risked their lives to give them a chance to survive.
it isn’t a good time to help the kids, so we don’t need rescue or do anything to help them survive or feel safe?
I’d rather help out American schoolchildren than a bunch of rich people going on vacation
No ones gonna change their minds, lol. But thinking about American citizens instead of inept leaders isn’t a problem Imo.
It’s what many people have to do when their leaders ignore or oppress them.
Tonight was just to inspire some real thoughts , about real people, y’all have a good one!
Ps, if You truly feel denying young citizens to vote, it wouldn’t hurt to be sure it’s YOUR opinion, and it wasn’t spoon fed to You by corrupt ones in power spouting nonsense to keep the profits going. Good night!
Piggy, term limits is a power the people already have but don’t exercise it. It’s a lazy solution – I want new candidates but I will vote for the incumbent anyway. Just do it, vote new people into office when you think someone has been in office too long. Holding your nose when voting is a bad practice because you have to vote the party line. Then those types of people tell myself and others who vote 3rd party that it’s a wasted vote. Yeah okay, you keep voting for the same corrupt pols over and over because of party lines and then blame me and call for term limits. LMAO!!!
David
Who do you think the NRA is?
If you didn’t say its a group of people that think like me, well you are wrong!
I am the NRA! because I pay them to represent me!
why would you support a terrorist organization? the nra is a evil domestic terrorist organization that values their existence and profits over our lives. they buy off politicians, and spout lies and fearmonger, anything to keep the scam going
they value profits only, dead people arent important to them, and they want mentally illl people to be able to but machine guys so they can kill Americans, its profitable, right?
nobody hunts with machine guns, they kill innocent people,
im thinking the next democratic pres will declare a national emergency and remove all guns until common sense safety can be figured out
im not for that, but if this problem continues to be ignored, it might be required for our safety
if trump can make a fake national emergency to keep us safe
then the next president can make a real national emergency, and really keep us safe
Y’all are killin’ me.
Same here, which is why I’m just moving on from politics.
, awwwww, snowflake cant handle a little heat, lol killing me!
suck it up buttercup
Just to start a new fight…
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/25/health/edible-cannabis-emergency-visit-study/index.html
And if that ain’t enough…
I think 16 year olds are are liberal automatons. No thanks, I’ll wait till they’re 18 to start fucking shit up.
If republicans start lowering the drinking age to 16
They will be republicans
In the meantime who would you support of bernie sanders says free college and you were 16 or 18for that matter?
you know ALL 16 year olds are liberal atomatons? lmao how did You interview them all?
possibly Your most false statement ever, but it does reveal that you think partisanship is more important than childrens and parents lives. people are killing themselves , this is a problem we need to address. ignoring problems, never solves them, but You already know this
but lets allow that kind of thinking to keep torturing American victims with no voice?,
this kind of partisanship is very cruel and dangerous to Americans’
selfish and noncaring attitudes are a huge part of why Americans are dying. no one care unless its their kids? serious?
would You like to help out the Parkland situation, or just keep calling 16 year old names while they commit suicide?
this isnt directed against You, its against ignorant and dangerous ideas like You spouted. that is contributing to needless deaths,
it wouldnt hurt to show some concern for fellow americans.
if You guys had legit reasons 16 year olds shouldnt vote, they havent been posted. just sarcasm and sillyness.
this is a problem that needs to be solved, unfortunately it wont get solved until we get a president that actually cares about its citizens, and encourages us to do the same.
Benjamin Franklin says impeachment is an alternative to assassination, i believe He was correct, its time to impeach the dictator, and get a leader that believes the constitution, and protects its citizens
im not trying to change You mind at this point, but i would like to ask You to stop calling children names , its part of the dehumanizing process nazis and dictators use.
history shows us that if lives are devalued .. it makes it much easier, for the evil dictators , to remove them from society,
i want no part of that, and I know You dont either
UNBELIEVABLE comeback win for the Lightning tonight! Down 4-2 in the final period, the Bolts scored 3 times in the last 10 minutes of the game to pull out a 5-4 victory over the previously red hot Boston Bruins. In the last 7 games, Tampa Bay has outscored their opponents 19-3 in the third period. And this includes 2 games against Washington and tonight’s contest against Boston. In my opinion, the Lightning are THE BEST CONDITIONED TEAM IN THE NHL!! Next up, another game at home vs. the defending Cup champions, the Capitals, then 4 road games to conclude the regular season. Tampa Bay needs to win 4 of their last 5 contests to set al all time NHL record for most wins in the regular season.
GO BOLTS!
ON ANOTHER SUBJECT—Piggy, you stated you were up to your usual tricks with many incidents of anal eloquence today. Is it true you can actually fart the Dolphins’ Fight Song???
It’s true
🎶🎶🎶and when you say Miami 🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶🐖💨💨💨🎶🎶🎶
Utopia… a unicorn existence. I wrote a concept musical piece named “The Fantasy of Peace”. Maybe someday I’ll revive it and record it in a complete way. Not that it will matter. If Pink Floyd put it out there… maybe. Not little ole me. Roger Waters is left leaning but he also touches on all of the wrongs in political life regardless of country and current political systems. It all comes down to the same thing, just different people and times.
The Pink Floyd album Animals in 1977 wasn’t critically acclaimed. I happen to love it because of the music and the message. It’s true to this day regardless of where you stand politically. It’s about greed and a lack of respect for life. Remember they grew up in London that was bombed by Nazi Germany only a few years before they were born. They grew up with the remnants. They heard what their elders said about it. It was a horrible time.
The youth became radicals for a very good reason. WTF are American kids up in arms about now? 9/11? Okay, we all get that. What else, utopia isn’t there yet? It’s now become about hating your neighbor because of the hat they are wearing or how they treat a flag. How about how we treat each other and other living species. WTF are we doing?!!!
Check it out if you never have. Just let it play. I wish all of us well.
The leave college in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars
There aren’t a lot of well playing jobs in front of them bc baby boomers won’t retire
Millennial are the most educated generation in America but they make up 40% of unemployment
Wages in America are stagnant – the avg median income in the us is the same as it was in the 90s even though the cost of everything has gone up
Milllenials are actually on average earning less than most of the generations before them when they were their age – just flat out less, without factoring in inflation
They’ve been out priced I the real estate market, often times they can’t pay rent and they certainly can’t buy a home
And of course the generations before them left them with an environment that may be unfixabke due to neglect
They have a lot of problems in front of them
They are actually the laa gets generation in the Us ,which I just learned – I thought it was the baby boomers, but I guess a lot of boomers have died…lol
We are in a bad place right now Tim
Young people ha r good reason to be upset right now
Dude… do you know the gist of this album? Greed is the biggest culprit. I didn’t say we have utopia. LOL
I was pointing out how long ago this started. It’s further back than that but I tried to keep it at grandfather and grandmother. My Mom was born in 1944. She was born during a time family members never came back from war. Though I never got drafted or had to join the military, much of my family on both sides were military people. They didn’t do that to give up freedom to bigger government. As a libertarian person yourself you should understand that.
But thank you for this post. A friend of mine called me out for a simple post about coming to America the right way, and he took that as meaning I’m “racist”, against “brown people” and whatever else was on his mind. He ranted on about what I think (if I agreed or not) and ended it with, I didn’t pass his “critical thinking” test. I basically told him to fuck off! It should be interesting at our next FF Draft. He blew off the end of season party too. Boo hoo! I mean really!!! LOL
Great album , but still Probably my 3rd favourite Floyd Album after the Wall and Dark Side
Ha ha Sharad you are !!
The Wall would be my Stuck on a desert island 1 album allowed pick … love the way it wraps back around at the end to the beginning
I have no linear orders anymore. I place them in mood categories. 🙂
Dark Side of the Moon was one of the best albums created in my life time. Wish You Were Here… I love. Pink Floyd… come on. LOL
They are deeper than those 3 albums, but as big as The Wall was, my 4th is Obscured By Clouds. Meddle too. LOL
The Wall I find , I can connect with in any mood , but I do hear what ya saying.. they were one of the best all time
PIGGY: LOVED your “musical response” even if it did include a few rotten notes! TIME to hit the sack—a very busy day is on my horizon!
OD congrats on Bolts great season.. hope ya see ya in the finals.. Jets need to play much better consistently than they have last month .. will get better when we get Byfuglien and Morrissey back .. too bad about that whole Presidents trophy curse though 👍🤡
With the way the world is changing and with the levels of maturity declining I think they should actually up the legal age to vote to 25. Since 25 is the new 16 that should make every one happy in this argument.
Does that mean I’m actually 35?
Pretty sure that ship sailed a while back sir 🤡
LOL
Fuck.. I’m sorry I read everything to catch up. If you are good with a 16 year old to vote you are a Fucking Dip Shit. If you are old enough to serve your country then you can vote. Most everyone here made their worst decisions in life between 16 & 21. Kids now want free shit and that’s why the Left want them to vote. They are not an adult to make a decision. But they are to young to consent to sex and they are old enough to vote. Think about that for a second.
It’s so absurd. Is this not the elite controlling pawns?
It’s openining the floodgates for Dem Votes .
are people fucking dipshits thinking senior citizens know how to vote properly?
lol yep
cause they are uninformed
when a person gets too old to drive, their driving privelege can be taken away. why? cause they are a threat to others, let that sink in for a min,,,,
i think if a person is too old to vote properly, they should lose the right to vote
much disagreed,
16 is old enough to drive,
millions of senior citizens make uninformed votes, they dont research the candidates, dont even own a computer.or know what and who the candidates are. they go with name recognition only, thus the millions of signs every election.
seniors are horrible at deciding the future of AMerica, they have no future, and dont care about others futures
16 year olds are much more able and capable to vote than seniors.. their mids and bodies are sharp, and they are computer literate to find out whats what
Toba, the early Floyd set the stage for the newer Floyd. You can hear it. They grew and evolved as a band. But common traits remained. It doesn’t matter what anyone says about them to me, I know what they mean to me and many others.
Great band, explored technology in the early days.
I only started to hear from Darkside on .. and never heard anything bad put out by them.. I have listened to Meddle and enjoy it just not to the same degree as the others.. I recently realized my brother passed on Obscured by clouds and Saucerful of secrets albums to me .. I will have to dust those off and give a listen to .. brother did not pass on , he just dumped his albums to me 😊
Give a listen to Animals 🐕😎👍
Yep I own that one too , it is awesome as well, have to listen to those when the wife not home .. she not a fan … her loss..😊
Absodamnlutley ^^
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Anyway, nice guys. I need to get some beauty rest .. have a great one .. GO FINS !!!! 🐬🐬🐬
Or nice yapping with you guys ..
It’s going to be a boring draft picking OL and DL, and maybe a QB if one the FO likes is there. I like boring this year.
Us and Them is one of my fav Pink Floyd songs. dark side of the mood is one of the best albums ever, maybe the best
dark side of the moon, was far better than dark side of the mood.
dark side of the mood is the theme to Dexter
what i am seeing in the posts isnt kids are not capable of voting. its fearmongering.
bush used it too, red alert, orange alert, bombs disguised as pens, shoe bombs, weapons of mass destruction, doctored yeloowcake statements, meaning nucelar was is imminenet. etc.
bastard never let us feel safe for five friggin minutes, why?
FEAR IS CONTROL
conservatives always scared of their own shadow, fear the caravan, fear the children, fear the press.
no thanks, living a life of fear, isnt living a full life imo.
i wasnt afraid of the caravan boogie man, not afraid of Hillary, not afraid of rapists pouring over the border.
these are all examples of baseless fearmongering, only the naiive go for baseless fearmongering
o and fuck Google for lying about using AMD for its streaming service,they said they wanted to make it clear they were using AMD chips for its new Stadia
then a couple days later saying they arent using AMD
they made my AMD stocks dick the dog, lol but im not selling til they are up.
and forturtunately they are creeping back this morning
google is facing lawsuits over its lies about AMD< damaging AMD and their shareholders
AMD cannot be deinied, fucking tank! up 1.77 premarket
You go baby, daddy making bank today
AMD is an excellent full margin long term hold, if Google can quit lying about it
Fakest? Only to you David 16 year olds are in school learning the liberal doctrine for 12 years. Are you going to tell me schools don’t preach the liberal way? Well, you can try, but it won’t be true. Doggy nailed, 16 year olds just want free stuff and that’s the what the liberals and socialists are selling. The libs are a cereal box with a free prize inside.
so You know all 16 year olds are this way? You met everyone?
how did You come to that conclusion?
why are the childrens opinions nonimportant,
and do You think when they are 18 they turn to conservative?
sorry bud, but you havent made a valid point why 16 years olds arent capable of voting, you only reveal that you wouldnt LIKE their vote, lol
so the real issue is, You arent capable of respecting their vote, has nothing to do with whether they are capable or not
Of course I don’t think they become conservative, but that’s the voting age (18) and that’s the way it is and I’m not going to complain about it. We don’t need them voting 2 years earlier, only the libs want it. Why all of a sudden is it so important, and why do the liberals want it so badly? I don’t see moderates, independents complaining about the voting age, just liberals.
Old people have earned the right to vote, so sorry, that’s just the way it is. There are no mental competency exams for voting for old folks, just as there aren’t any for young folks either. There are 90 year olds I trust more to make an informed decision over a 16 year old liberally indoctrinated child. Why is it that only the liberals want to change the voting age and the electoral college and anything else that doesn’t work for them? These systems have been in this country for so long but only the liberals now find them irritating. Why is that?
David – For Christ’s sake, I don’t have to make an argument why 16 year olds can vote or not, because they CAN’T! Your judging of my statements is more irrelevant than I can ever possibly explain to you. It means nothing. The law is 18, end of story
you are wrong for two reasons,
You dont know all the 16 year olds,
and many are quite capable.using a computer or pencil to mark something, they do it everyday in school. children arent capable of school either? yea, seniors could handle school better, lmao
you pretend its difficult, lmao
paying a house off is difficult, convincing You You are wrong is difficult,
voting is literally childs play.
BTW – I’m laughing my ass off at Mr. “whataboutisms” complaining that old people shouldn’t be allowed to vote (when they’ve earned the right to) and of course he knows the mental capacity of every person over 80 years old and has come to the conclusion that they are not
liberalcompetent.My father-in-law who lives with us now is 93 yo. He is a WWII, Korean War and Vietnam War veteran. He then was a deacon for the Memphis Baptist Assoc. for 25 years. The man is still sharp as a tack. Give him a bible verse and he can quote it for you. Moves a little slow but gets out and drives just fine. Still chases the ladies around and takes them on lunch dates. If they are over 70 they are to old for him though. LOL
His friend (my neighbor) 5 houses down the road from me is 95 and still gets out and does yard work. He is a retired Navy Pilot and a WWII and Korean War veteran as well. He walks a little funny but still going strong. Still gets out and fishes tournaments off shore. At age 87, he was the Pensacola Yacht Club Off Shore Fishing Champion. He runs the roads with my “Pops” to find single ladies for lunch dates. They trip me out!
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So these two should not be able to vote anymore? Hmmm
For the record, one used to be a Dem and the other a Rep. Now both consider themselves independent and decide once it’s election time.
They can vote as long as they vote Democratic, otherwise they’re incompetent. lol
deacon for 25 years
I guess I did say this, thought I left it out LOL
Oh, and I like what Grier said about what they plan to address and believe all agree. Also, get the extension with X done please.
X is going to be looking for 5 yrs in excess of $75 million. That’s what Norman got and he’s the highest paid cb in the league. It’s not happening. X will be part of a draft day trade.
A little late, but LOL@ Toba!
Lou – Just because Howard says he wants something doesn’t mean he won’t try to work out a deal with us. If it gets to the point where we can’t sign him then maybe you’re right, maybe we trade him. I don’t think it’s gotten to that pint yet though.
he’s got a lot of value being in the last yr of his rookie contract and being a good, young player. so trading him could be the equivalent of a first rd pick at this time and I think that’s the way we go.
MikeE, I tell you what, you want a good history lesson. Come to my house sit by the fire pit with these 2. They got some stories now. They each will have one drink. My Pops will drink a glass of wine (yes, he is Baptist LOL) and my neighbor likes a cup of strong coffee with a shot of southern comfort. One will tell a story and it will remind the other of a story and they just go back and forth. It is priceless!
BBM, im not in favor of the seniors losing their right to vote, just discussing many know not what they do. many are uninformed and vulnerable, and have little to no ability to learn computers or issues
if they are capable of voting, then of course 16 year olds are capable also. and besides, it might help them stop committing suicides, which is a far larger problem than grandpas creamed spinach
How would voting help them stop committing suicide? That makes no sense.
by giving them a voice, representation. they are ignored and oppressed.
would it help? they damn sure need help, im not against to try and help em
what makes no sense is ignoring the problem hoping it will go away, we have to try something
Krishna, if that is the way they do the draft, I will be happy with a boring draft. LOL
Have you heard from Rhino lately?
if i was still a kid, id be making the argument 16 year olds arent capable of going to school, lol
but my parents would of course see through the charade, and send me anyway
Exactly, and that is due to the fact that 16 year olds are immature and need that guidance.
IMO, legal age for drinking/tobacco/voting/gun purchase(not usage) should be 21 across the board. I started hunting with my Dad and Grandpa when I was 12. I remember how I was back then and believe young people need some life experience. Driving to me is a not factor. I was 12 also when I started driving and working on farms.