All I asked for was a plan. Even though I belong to one of the the most prestigious Miami Dolphins Fan Blogs, oddly enough I wasn’t privy to the plan. Despite extensive conversations that I’ve had with Chris Grier, he and I are great pals, he never told me. He’s that good! Seriously though, it’s not the guy I wanted, but I’m thrilled to have Josh Rosen as our QB.
Just think how bizarre the circumstances are how Josh Rosen ended up on our roster. The 10th pick of the 2019 NFL Draft to the Arizona Cardinals did not have a great season last year, but when you look at the team he played for, and take into consideration that the HC Steve Wilks was fired after one miserable season, it’s easy to understand what Rosen was up against. Full disclosure, I didn’t want Rosen last year, and I preferred Dwayne Haskins this year, but I reiterate, I’m thrilled he’s a Miami Dolphin.
Josh Rosen is a highly intelligent QB, and that should fit right in with Chad O’Shea and what he wants to accomplish. If we’re following the Patriots model, be smart with the football, don’t turn it over, and get points on every drive. No pressure for Rosen to start immediately, but I’m thinking Fitzmagic is going to have a fight on his hands to start the season. The compensation we gave up is minimal, the #62 pick (practically a 3rd RD pick after our trade down) this year and our 5th RD pick next year. That trade back also netted us a 2020 2nd RD pick in exchange for our 4th RD pick. Well worth it!
Josh Rosen the QB was rated as one of the top QB’s in last years draft, rated by some as the top QB. He’s NFL ready, he knows how to stay in the pocket and keep his eyes downfield, not on the rush. He can process an NFL offense easily with his football intelligence. In 2017 for UCLA, he completed 63% of his passes against the blitz. He doesn’t necessarily have a better than average arm, but neither did Tom Brady, and he turned out OK.
So now we have a super high character, physically talented, dominant DT, and add to him a highly rated QB prospect with one year of NFL experience under his belt (even if it was a miserable year!) In the 3rd RD we selected Wisconsin OG Michael Dieter. 6’5 307, there’s nothing special physically to mention, but the kid can play. He’s played all 3 interior positions at Wisconsin as well as 14 games at LT where he was a first team All Conference pick.
So far I have to say we’ve accomplished an awful lot so far. I honestly wonder what is going on in Josh Rosen’s mind. I hope he embraces this most unique opportunity with unbridled enthusiasm. It’s almost like we saved him, he should feel born again (Not religiously!). I hope he comes here humbled and thankful for a wonderful new start and opportunity. Hopefully he’s our successful starting QB for the next 10-15 years. GO DOLPHINS!
#staythecourse
PS – ARZ has paid all of Josh Rosen’s bonus money, so we’re getting a great financial deal as well!
PPS – Toba – Thanks so much for the photoshopping my friend, I appreciate it man!
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Beau Benzschawel who I saw in countless mock drafts here went undrafted and is signing with the Lions.
hes good, Lions will win the super bowl now that they have another OL, lol jk
so let’s see…we got Tunsil after the Gas mask incident, we got Minkah and Wilkins who both slid, and it may or may not be a good deal with the Josh Rosen acquisition, only time will tell. if it does it would appear Grier is getting great value.
i wasnt aware Wilkins slid, where was he slotted, and why did he slide?
i saw a half dozen mocks of Miami taking Wilkins, weeks before the draft,
it felt right when we picked him, but at that time it was hard to celebrate the guy, not having any idea if we were getting a QB or not
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. This team still has a LOT of improving to do….just looked where we ranked offensively and defensively last year. 6 wins is being hopeful, IMO. Flores has done absolutely nothing yet, and all this chatter about what a big disciplinarian he is is just talk until he does it here. Let’s not forget, bellicheat was STILL the HC of that team last year….not Flores. Flores still has to earn it on his own.
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On Rosen: It’s on him to come in and earn the job. Fitz isn’t gonna just roll over. But, I don’t see how they don’t get Rosen on the field because they pretty much HAVE to find out if he’s the guy by the draft next season, so they know if they need to draft another QB. If Rosen ends up not proving he’s the guy moving forward, we will be drafting a QB next season. Rosen simply gives us the possibility that we won’t have to. I like his potential but that’s all it is right now.
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I liked our draft…didn’t love it…but I thought we managed it well. Now the work starts.
we are going to the playoffs this year,
laugh now, ill laugh later
GO MIAMI !!!
YOU got it!!!! There is NO tank happening. People are looking at this team and thinking it’s going to be an easy win on their schedule and it won’t be.
Who would want Fitz to roll over? The best way to win a job is through legit competition. I hope Fitz is balling but Rosen is even better. Like I said earlier , I hope Rosen comes in hungry to succeed and takes the rein of this team and never looks back
LOL!! Flores and Grier had to do everything they could to keep from cracking a smile when they talked about Rosen and letting the cat out of the bag. Inside, they’re jumping for joy.
Rosen would have to come in and not give a flying fig in order to not beat out Fitz in camp. The ceiling on this kid is night and day compared to what we’ve had previously and our coaching staff is night and day compared to the patchwork staffs we’ve had over the past 20 yrs.
We’ve turned the corner and it’s refreshing to not have to worry about clowns running the show anymore.
David,
Absolutely nothing wrong with fans thinking that. It’s the season of hope! Lol
lou,
This sounds familiar. Oh right, this is exactly what you said about Gase. Lol
Yeah, right. Gase would say in his CHI pressers he wish he had answers.
Randy – It’s obvious they are setting up to do serious damage in next year’s draft. They accomplished some good things in this draft, addressed a couple of huge weaknesses, DT and QB. It was going to be very difficult to accomplish much more than that with what we had to work with. A lot will be riding on next year’s draft, plus we will be flush with cap cash to make a couple of key additions as well. You have to start somewhere,. right?
David, Armando said he spoke with 4 teams and three of them had Wilkins in their top 10 and one had him top 5. He didn’t really slide so much for any reason it just happened to go that way.
Proflou — the one surety in life is the surety of your opinions. And this time around am hoping you are 100% right….. you too David on the make the playoffs guarantee.
ill say it first, it might be too early to say, but its not too early to believe.
in 2019 , this year, this AFC east division Miami wins the wild card,
everyone is seemingly ignoring Flores is bringing to the team, or thinking sounds good, without really thinking about what he is bringing here. well. this is it.
he isnt here to tank, thats why the tank for tua talk greatly disturbed me. and even a little doubt was creeping in, cant have that.
he will be the coach We wanted since Shula retired, and He will greatly surprise alot of folks when we start ripping off consecutive wins. Im not surprised, I know who he is, and I can see whats going on here.
so get Your wild card shirts now at a discount, price goes up later , lol jk
We’re probably not good enough yet to make the playoffs but it’s not like we don’t have enough talent and playmakers to compete and make it a game most of the time. I’m sure we’ll have a couple of stinkers because even good teams have a couple of bad games.
Think 8-8 will be a major sign for the future. And Vegas will have us at far less than that for good reason. Haven’t checked, but guessing our over/under will be 5 or 6 wins.
We probably need 10-11 to have a shot at the wild card. It’s within our reach IMO
What would Flores say to the people, or fans, that are already discussing our draft positioning next year is going to be high?
Realizing he captain obvious here, a high draft position means we won only a couple games or so.
Flores would probably rip a new asshole. Why would he leave a super bowl championship team, to come down in the brutal heat and humidity to be a NFL laughingstock?
The man is quality, We all watched Flores lead the defense of a team wearing fat ass shiny new championship rings, that WE want!
No one can legitimately question Flores resume, or ability to lead.
He came to Miami with a detailed plan, of course He will implement his plan, and it won’t look anything like tank, We have to know that.
He has a chip on his shoulder, and is determined to show the world He can do it on how own, with no bellicheat
He will succeed, anyone betting against Flores is a fool with their money gone IMO
Life is like the stock market, lol uos and dowwns, , momentum swings, etc
If the Dolphins were a stock, I would see that our share price is very low, not many have confidence in us,
I would research the company, and look for positive signs of growth, a reason for the stock to rise.
Miami is an oversold stock, bottomed out, and is now a trend reversal with reason to rise
A momentum swing.
Flores, Rosen, Wilkins, all positive factors to the success.
I’m BUYING IN! Lol. And going heavy, candles are showing breakout!
Ia there an open tube of model airplane glue on this blog? Lol.
If You don’t like the joke, go to the service center in New Zealand and ask for Your money back, lol
Good luck
And I know You aren’t questioning Flores, don’t go there!
LOL @ SB – I think there will be plenty of growing pains with the new staff, and we’re still down on talent. Our O-line is questionable at best. I think the playoff talk is post draft exuberance, or airplane glue. lol
I don’t think it is.
I think people discounting the season before it starts , are short sighted
Zoom out, look at the big picture, the keys to success are here, and it’s going to happen
Oh yeah, and we have no DE’s
Fitz got paid elite backup money which is what he is and probably what was explained that he likely would be the majority of his contract here
I expect Fitz to maybe start the year but give way to Rosen sooner than later. I think if Rosen can’t pick up the offense by end of the season we can either give him another year or go ahead and draft someone in 2020 and he becomes a cheap backup.
David – You’re optimistic, and that’s great. I don’t think it’s realistic at this moment to expect us to be a playoff team. We have no DE’s, a very shaky O-line, a new QB, a new HC, so you have to expect growing pains. That doesn’t mean we’re tanking, but I think we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves claiming playoffs.
We don’t need to worry over wins and losses this year if we win and nake the playoffs great but we should just focus on looking like a team. We haven’t for many years
Totally agree. Progress is all we’re after as far as I’m concerned. Keep getting better.
And for the record I hope Haskins has a great career!
I hope he kicks the shit out of the Cowboys twice a year!
I hope he makes the Giants whine like little girls and fie their GM!
I hope he goes to the Superbowl in 2 years and has a great game!
IN A LOSS TO ROSEN AND THE FRICKEN DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!
I was wondering where you were going with that. 🙂
Oh I was serious about the Cowboys!
He isn’t on my team I don’t care how he does 🙂
Some folks are surely writing their “should have taken Haskins over Wilkins” I told you so’s as we speak!!!!!
Mike,
I’ve been around awhile so I know how it goes. I’m hopeful for the season and the future of this franchise, but I cant live in fantasyland. That’s what Disney is for.
Disney is for wise investors, I made $3,000 of gains on Friday
I don’t work anymore , now I make My living because of my skills of recognizing trend reversals in the market, and Researching technical signs, where the company was in the past, present, and should be in the future.
And I know Miami isn’t a stock, but Miami is showing all the technical signs of a trend reversal IMO
they are a company, though, and this company’s fortunes are in the near future, improvement is coming, and it will come quickly IMO
I’m buying into this company on the rise, the Dolphins are going to be highly successful! And I believe we wil shock the world when we get a wild card this year!
It would certainly shock me. The other teams in our division got better too. Just sayin; . . .
The way the roster is set up so far it looks like a 3-4 will be our base. But we’ll be in sub packages most of the time so you’re going to see a lot of LB and DB blitzing and our DL will be more DT sized guys. I’m sure we’ll be in the market of the next phase of FA for some bigger edge guys.
Wyo – You don’t mean me, do ya? (Haskins)
Could be?
But you’ve never been the “told you so” kinda guy????
I don’t think I’m that guy, but maybe every now and again we all do a little of that, but I’m not a regular in that department.
I understand playoffs are difficult to think of now, so I’ll table the talk until we are 7-3.
Then it’s gonna pick up in earnest 😎
I’m looki9ng forward to seeing our new run game. I like the combo of Drake, Ballage and Gaskins, along with the FB Cox and maybe 2 TE’s. That will mask some of the OL deficiencies.
Maybe we see if Asiata can play or not????
I think he’s going to get his shot, but I could also see us signing a vet after the cuts start coming. I hope he shows up finally. Davis and Sterup on the right side is not confidence inspiring either.
Yeah I’m looking forward to all new on both sides of the ball. The previous ways we played got stagnant and it wasn’t very good anyway.
Wyo – I just wanted a damn QB! I wanted Haskins, but I’m more than happy we got Rosen because we’re going to make sure we do everything we can to make him a successful starter. That’s all I want.
Rosen looks the part of a prototype QB and he throws a pretty ball. He’s got plenty of arm to make every throw. I’d say he has above average arm. So it will come down to his leadership, accuracy and durability on whether or not he becomes very good and our franchise QB. I’m not concerned about him learning the offense, he’s a smart kid.
I’m not concerned about him learning anything, I think that’s one of his strong points, his football intelligence. It’s up to him to become the leader by being a hard worker, gaining respect from his teammates, and then ultimately playing well on gamedays.
I think Fitz will be good for him too. He’s got a lot of experience, he’s a cool guy and also very smart.
Stanger, You into Disney over there my bro? I know You like hot blue chippers with full margins, , Disney is smokin hot
I have 41 Disney shares and 41 on margin, so every percent they go up, I make $1000. Friday they did over 3 percent, so that $3 k in one day! I’m holding long term though, so the gains just roll over into compound interest.
They are about $140, and I believe going north of $400 in five years
David — specific stock advice is worthless on me. Just an index guy at this point. Glad to comment on stuff, but you are more into short-term trends and I never did that. Even if know how the market basically works, including that buying anything on margin means you are shooting for bigger rewards than I would risk. More a Buffet and Bogle type.
I am into some penny stock short terms, but I’m also diverse and have top performing margin boys like Disney and AMD
What I do is nail entry and exits on penny stocks, then use the gains to buy more Disney, or AMD. It’s like getting Disney or AMD for a discount
Disney is long term hold, unsellable imo.
I’m holding Disney for when I’m very old and need it, or to give to my son for his inheritance when I’m gone
Just wanted to pass along a tip on Disney, it’s a real growth opportunity, insane performer short, medium, long term
mike E
I’m all good brother!
Just being contrary for some reason?????????
There is some rhetoric that goes on that is outdated and old that annoys me!
But other than that I’m pretty happy how the re-build is going so far!
Cool! You should be happy man, we did well.
David figuring in Clelin Ferrel and why the Raiders took him @4 is a mystery, Daniel Jones who nobody had going in the top 10, also Hockenson at 9, those are 3 unexpected picks in the top 10 so it stands to reason that Wilkins slid due to that.
Agreed. I was going to mention that earlier but decided to keep it brief. The draft always has a few surprises that changes things.
Good points Rob
I’m sure Rosen will win the Job, as Randy said they have to make sure he’s their guy…the real question is…. can he stay on the field?
if they bench him there will be a lot of un-certainty going into 2020 off season
Think the best favor they could do for him is let Fitz go for a while and bring him in later. No benching needed at that point….. and if Fitz has the team on an unlikely fire then why not ride it. Plan in Zona was for him to sit for at least a year.
Rosen will compete like everyone else and if he has a great camp or as good or better than Fitz I’d start him from the get go. He has more natural talent than Fitz.
I’m going to enjoy watching us line up with a FB from time to time. 🙂
Tom – Yes, I think you’re right about that. Fitz will be a good influence for Rosen.
Er, Tim! lol
There are some edge guys available in the next wave of FA that we could bring in for this season on the cheap because if they were expensive and that good they’d be gone already. They might not be part of the long term but could help us in our transition phase.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001018706/article/2019-nfl-free-agency-updated-top-101-nfl-free-agents
stangerx says:
April 28, 2019 at 4:16 pm
Proflou — the one surety in life is the surety of your opinions. And this time around am hoping you are 100% right….. you too David on the make the playoffs guarantee.
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Stanger,
When we drafted Tannehill in 2012 I knew he wasn’t the answer at qb. I suffered thru 7 yrs with him in there and I’ve never been so sure of anything in my life like I am that Rosen is going to be the future of this franchise. We are set at qb.
I hope you’re right too, Lou. 🙂
Love hearing it Lou. And no doubt you are driving the Rosen bus at this point….. some folks really wanted him on the team too but who can compete with that?.
I expected to either see Wilkins one Ferrell at 13
If both were available at 13, it would have meant some other good player slid to us
There was a time where I thought Josh Allen or Ed Oliver might fall Toni’s when Ferrell went off the board
Wilkins looks to be a very good player. Who cares where he was drafted?
I hope lou is right too
But I disagree with the ice that we are out of the 2020 draft QB market bc we added Rosen
If they are proceeding with you keep taking QBs until you find your guy it means we are in the market
Unless Lou is right. At that point no need. And even if not completely clear…. there would always be 2021. But lot of water has to go under the bridge before then.
We set ourselves up with maneuverability in 2020
But we can definitely use a pass rusher and if we like Rosen in 2019 – then maybe a blue chip defensive player is the way to go
Just a question Stanger, don’t want to turn the board into a Wall Street chat room, lol
But You mentioned risk and Buffet. Do You feel like Disney is risky? Just curious of Your thought on it
Btw, buffet sold Disney in the sixties,, said they had no future, and he owned Kraft Foods a month ago when it crashed.
should I be following him? I can beat Buffet on percent 5 days a week, by a factor of 10 or more, guaranteed,
he’s lost his touch imo
The average hedge fundie Can smoke Buffet too
But here’s the kicker, I always use buffets method for picks, just not his actual picks
But I was curious if You felt Disney is too risky,
to me it’s a swan, sleep well at night
Again — have no idea about individual stocks (includes Disney). And was just talking about Buffet’s general advice to people not as savvy as you,. And if you can beat him 5 days a week then good for you. But he distinctly does not use leverage, which is what you are doing. Do worry about how you are set up if there is a serious downturn.
How was your performance during the dive in 2018 Q4? If your equities go blewy…. you gonna be OK? Caught you are a full-time investor now.
i love dips bro, buy em up!
i had a stock drop 85 percent in one night, i couldnt believe it. i heavily leveraged it, and 2 days later it popped up 28 percent and i bailed
if i can manage a 85 percent drop overnight, i can handle myself ok
i never worry when stuff goes down, it makes super good entry points.
i worry when stuff doesnt go up or down, nothing i can do with it then
I hope we’re not in the QB market in 2020. 😉
I doesn’t necessarily mean we tanked
No I meant that we’re happy with Rosen.
If we are in the QB market in 2020 – I hope we handle Rosen much better than the Cardinals did…lol
Professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
April 28, 2019 at 6:25 pm
stangerx says:
April 28, 2019 at 4:16 pm
Proflou — the one surety in life is the surety of your opinions. And this time around am hoping you are 100% right….. you too David on the make the playoffs guarantee.
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Stanger,
When we drafted Tannehill in 2012 I knew he wasn’t the answer at qb. I suffered thru 7 yrs with him in there and I’ve never been so sure of anything in my life like I am that Rosen is going to be the future of this franchise. We are set at qb.
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Can I get an AMEN? Lol. Don’t let people tell You Your beliefs are wrong, it’s Your beliefs, not theirs,
stand fast, and enjoy the success when it comes! We can already taste success, but others will only taste it much later!
But it’s all good, cause everyone will be on board once we are tied with the cheats at 7-3, and 6 games to go to determine playoff berths, until then,,,, We will exercise patience with the zoomed in crowd, eventually everyone will know how good We are
Go MIAMI !
I’m over the moon, lol
Got that from a British show, lol
Mike E. says:
April 28, 2019 at 5:09 pm
David – You’re optimistic, and that’s great. I don’t think it’s realistic at this moment to expect us to be a playoff team. We have no DE’s, a very shaky O-line, a new QB, a new HC, so you have to expect growing pains. That doesn’t mean we’re tanking, but I think we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves claiming playoffs.
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I can respect Your opinion Mike. And it certainly appears reasonable by every measure.
However I don’t feel like I’m getting ahead of myself, I do feel like I’m much quicker to realize trend reversals. Or impending success, and maybe that makes me look like I’m getting ahead of myself.
And hey, Maybe I’m wrong, only one way to prove it right? I just believe!
But this is what I believe, Flores and Rosen wil get it going by playoff time we will be hitting full stride, and We may or may not advance far in the playoffs, but We will be there and compete, and try their best, players will go through walls for Flores,
WE will watch this together My friend, and I’m wanting to attend the awesomest fest in the world now! I’m over the moon, lol
I don’t see us in the QB market in 2020. I will give it this season and next. If Rosen is not the guy after 2020 season and we have built a nice roster with all the picks in 2020, then they need to sell the farm for Lawrence in 2021. Here’s to hoping we don’t have to.
I’m going to support this team, with $
A quality product, sells Itself
There will be at least 3 qb’s picked (most probably and hopefully more) in the top ten of the 2020 draft. We won’t be picking one so some talent might get pushed to us next draft.
So you guys who think Zona got smoked on the Rosen deal ,,,
I get what you mean, but …
Do you think they could’ve gotten a First?
cuz there’s only that that’s better than what they got.
No way they could’ve gotten a first for a guy with the QB rating Rosen had.
It’s possible they could have gotten a little higher second round pick ,
if they were good poker players
They aren’t
The idea that a team feels their only hope for success is a collegiate QB a year or two from now kind of bothers me.
About optimism, I still can’t find enough sacks in who we’ve got on defense.
Even with the NE swarm as Tim aptly calls it.
Nor do I see a playoff level OL. Even though the FB and Gaskins will help mask the bad OL.
So I see 6-10 next year, but a more enjoyable year than we had last year.
That is with the roster we have now.
Grier says they are not done yet, so i hold back judgement till the regular season starts.
Think of the Steelers with Dick LeBeau as DC. Lots of looks and blitz schemes. It’s the same stuff Belichick runs and Flores has been around. Base defense is not so prominent anymore but based on what we’ve done I don’t see a classic 4-3 anymore and we’ve acquired more LBs as we’ve jettisoned classic 4-3 DEs even though much of it was for cap reasons. We have a bunch of big DT sized DL and LBs. We have 4 guys who can play standard DE. That’s how I view it.
I can already visualize Wiling being a huge leaderin defense, Huge guy in the middle making plays, cracking jokes, showing up for practice early, and staying late.
That’s Wilkins for You. His enthusiasm will juice up the other players, his play will motivate them to play harder, and his jokes will crack the nervous edges before games, calm the pregame butterflies.
he will be an oasis in the desert, while inspiring everyone
Anyone that’s ever played football at any level knows, Wilkins is a guy You want on YOUR team
Man I wondered if we’d give him a shot!
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I really like our new FB, Chandler Cox. I’ve missed having a FB
He looks like DeVante Parker.
WTF is this about? LOL
his ego is just destroyed
While Omar is correct this isn’t a great QB competition, Fitzpatrick sucks,
But he doesn’t suck as bad as Omar does.
Omar should understand Rosen can’t do anything yet, season hasn’t started. He needs to also learn that the Dolphins are trying to build a team, they don’t need his judgemental bullshit,
Not only is he wrong, he is counterproductive, and does nothing to foster team spirit, in a team sport
Too bad the Sun Sentinel doesn’t upgrade Omar, the veteran beat writer that keeps fumbling and throwing interceptions journalistic wise
I can’t open up the 16 people talking about this ”
Omar has me blocked
DAVID: I BLOCKED Omar from my site 5-6 years ago. Hope you’ll do the same.
dont have too, he blocked ME, lmao i think it was from years earlier when i told him off
Sure it’s possible they draft a quarterback again next year if they like a guy; especially with all the picks they have so they have the luxury of using one on a quarterback. Difference is, now they aren’t sitting there with a gun to their heads knowing they MUST get one and MUST take one in the 1st rd.
There’s no need to use a 1st next year on a qb or no need to use multiple picks to move up and get one.
I can see them maybe using one of those multiple mid-round picks on a guy they like but they’re not going to NEED to take one.
True, also it’s likely Fitzpatrick won’t be here next season,
so Yes, they will likely pick another QB they have their eyes on
Omar is just hate news, he should stfu if he has nothing to write that’s newsworthy
I DO NOT BELIEVE the Dolphins are going to deliberately tank the season in an attempt to land the QB of their dreams next season. But they may not HAVE TO. Last season, Josh Rosen had the lowest QB rating in the league at 66.7. AND (most importantly) Rosen has ALREADY PROVEN he can lead a team to the league’s worst record and, subsequently, the 1st overall draft pick. SO, if it seems to you that the Fins are not playing their best, remember, their best under Rosen may be bad enough to grab the first round draft pick!!
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AH, Steve Ross may be a football genius after all. But it only took him 10 wasted seasons to achieve it!
Man… there’s TOO high and there’s TOO low what with our suddenly newfound expectations, post-Draft. Some feel Josh Rosen is the best QB to enter our building since Dan the Man, others think he’s the worst since Tannehill/Osweiler… WOW!
The media (both local and national) are so focused on Josh Rosen (mostly bad, but some good), that it’s stealing thunder away from an excellent choice @ R1P13 in Christian Wilkins.
Nobody has been ‘anointed’ on this team. Nobody has already been cut without a fair chance to win a spot. Vegas will be changing their odds soon. A freak injury to a key player could once again derail current/future plans. We haven’t even gotten to training camp. There will ultimately be a rash of suspensions handed down, and hopefully none of our players will be among those suspended.
BREATHE, baby, BREATHE!!! PATIENCE!!!
Playoffs in 2019? Huh? We’ll be picking R1P1 in the 2020 Draft? Huh? Rosen IS our QB of the future? Huh? Rosen IS going to fail for us? Huh?
We’ll see what happens… or as Old Dolfan wisely states: SHOW ME!
Mr. Spikes: ROSEN has already “SHOWN ME” he can lead a team to the first overall draft pick. Unless our new head coach is something like the next Don Shula, I believe Rosen COULD lead a second team to the overall first pick in the NEXT DRAFT. But, hey, maybe Ross’s 11th year will be the a real winner!?!?
Old Dolfan,
Hope ya caught my take on our Draft yesterday… I think we should have addressed RT far earlier than the 6th round, for example!
And Mr. Campbell… did I — or did I not — tell ya that your guy Devin Singletary could possibly become a day 2 pick a few months ago?!! BOOM! I delivered!
ROSS and GRIER have been unable to build a solid O-Line. That is a sad fact. And it dooms ANY quarterback from performing at his highest level.
AND,yes, you were right on with Singletary. I’m NOT looking forward to the Buffalo games this year. And did you see that Singeltary’s back-up, Kerryth White, was drafted by the Bears? Could be TWO ex-FAU backs prancing in the end zones this season!
I agree that it IS a sad fact. But I’ve gotta tell ya: Steve Ross has no say on these draft matters.
But THANKFULLY, Grier chose my guy Michael Deiter! I had him going to us in the 2nd round, but we took him in the 3rd. GREAT selection!
olddolphan says:
April 28, 2019 at 9:36 pm
AND,yes, you were right on with Singletary. I’m NOT looking forward to the Buffalo games this year. And did you see that Singeltary’s back-up, Kerryth White, was drafted by the Bears? Could be TWO ex-FAU backs prancing in the end zones this season!
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I ran game tape on Kerryth, and I think he’s a damn good back! You certainly have the benefit of being an FAU fan, buddy!
I just really wish we’d have taken RB Xavier Turner in the 7th, before the free-for-all that is UDFA occurred.
Dbolt,
I’m absolutely sure ya know this already, but Dominic Bragalone got signed as an UDFA by the Giants. That sucks, man!
I mean, I wish WE’D have signed him as an UDFA, rather than the Giants, of course.
lddolphan says:
April 28, 2019 at 9:20 pm
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Lots of rookie QB sucked. And none of them played for Steve Ross. Maybe if you knew more than you know, you would know more than you know.
I didn’t say Rosen played for Ross. In fact, Rosen played for Arizona last season and led them to this season’s first round draft choice.
Have another beer and bone up on your English.
I’m out!!
Elderly abuse!
MR. SPIKES: Ross DOES HAVE say-so on draft picks to the extent that HE DECIDED TO KEEP GRIER ON BOARD, even after some not-so-good picks in recent years. ALSO, the Palm Beach Post reported last year that Ross tried to convince Grier NOT to draft Minkah Fitzpatrick last year in round 1. You’ll never get me to believe that Ross has NO INPUT on drafts because one fellow who STILL HAS A JOB with the Fins told me he’s seen Ross tell “underlings” that they MUST get his OK before finalizing any 1st round deals or selections (despite Ross’s public statements to the contrary). And, after the way Ross has treated his season ticket holders, I would not take his word for anything.
You kinda killed your own point. If he has input, the why didn’t they do what he said? They make their own decisions Ross may give input but they trust their own judgement not his as proven with the minkah selection
for the people questioning why Rosen is here, consider the Miami FO WANTED him here.
i trust their judgement, until proven otherwise
what a rookie qb does in Arizona with byron leftwich as his coordinator, doesnt mean Miami is hiring Leftwich for OC to do the same thing here.
Rosen has a much better opportunity here, so his progress should show and will
dont expect Rosen to have an arizona rookie season every year, he isnt with them anymore, no idea where leftwich is hiding, and is no longer a rookie,
we need to give the kid a second season and see what he does, before tossing him out with the trash
more importantly, give the coaches and FO a chance to prove their mettle, and trust their judgement on bringing Rosen in,
we already saw Grier smoke the draft with an A plus
now its Flores turn to earn his A plus
the vast majority of quarterbacks dont have their best season ever, in their rookie seasons
rookie seasons are usually one of their worst, if not the worst.
i expect We will see dramatic improvement with Rosen from his cardinal days to this season.
now that he has quailty NFL coaches with brain cells , instead of hollow spaces in his head leftwich, the skys the limit with Rosen
PLEASE don’t tell me that you’re trashing Byron Leftwich, now?
He came up the HARD way, and the right way… from player to coach. His stock is soaring as a coach, and he’s earned it. Nobody handed him ANYTHING.
Why not He sucked worse than Tanny could even spell suck!
Ok, fair enough,
But Please don’t tell Me Byron Leftwich is the best OC Miami can find,
or he helped Rosen in his development in Arizona
Leftwich isn’t a great OC bro, if he is, he’s never shown that yet
GOT was epic!
Glad you enjoyed it. I got bored of it the last couple of years, saw the episode tonight and it confirmed for me weak writing. I think I’m simply out of tune with fantasy these days.
What happened in tonight’s episode of GOT was NOT Stephen Ross’s fault
Never seen the show. But I can tell you that you are wrong.
Its is like that whole “Thanks Obama” thing…..
I do it every day.
Thanks Stephen Ross!
I’ve never seen the show either, but I also say thanks Obama, every time my family needs to use our health insurance. 😎
OD
OK I get the show me!
But what else does that give you to talk about???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
FUCK YEAH ARYA STARKS RULES
Wow!
Future Hall of Fame receiver Larry Fitzgerald, touched by the fact Rosen attended Fitzgerald’s charity softball game on Saturday a day after he was traded, told The Arizona Republic: “I think that’s just a testament to who he is as a man. He could have very easily gone down to Miami already, or just said, ‘Hey, I’m not gonna do it,’ but it shows you his commitment, his character, and just friendship. I’m very fortunate to call him a friend. Looking forward to seeing him do great things in Miami.”
Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article229789499.html#storylink=cpy
Fitzgerald has always done things the right way and is nothing but class. His endorsement has real meaning IMO.
I thought GOT was pretty predictable. I was kind of hoping that Arya would use her talent to disguise herself as an undead and kill the Big Guy. Leaping at him out of…where?…..and then doing the old drop my dagger to my other hand move was kinda lame. Bran just sitting there and doing nothing was just sorta anticlimactic. Plus, since they were already doing the big battle with the undead in episode 3 of 6, you knew the undead were gonna be defeated….and you knew the only way that happens is if somebody kills the big guy so they could kill all the undead at once.
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Figured Theon was gonna bite it, but I was bummed to see him die. What really sucks is Martin STILL hasn’t written the final book yet, and I’m seeing shit in the series. It’s making me anticipate the book less. Kind of a let down for someone who started reading the books when they first came out and invested years into the book series.
Chosen Rosen is the real deal. You can temper your excitement if you wish but I refuse to do so. I’m all in on this.
Back in 2012, when we made the mistake at #8 that would set the franchise back for 7 yrs I KNEW we made the wrong pick. When we traded our 2nd rd #62 for Rosen this year I KNEW we finally got a real quarterback.
So, like I said, temper your excitement if you wish. That’s up to you. But, I am going to enjoy being a Phins fan from here on out because it’s pretty obvious we’ve got the right people making the decisions for this team now and we’re going to start competing from day one. There is NO tank.
much agreed!
We def have transitioned subtly to a 3-4 (I know I know, multiple).
Picking up van G is a clue. That’s a OLB not a NFL DE.
He is known for looping and delayed blitzes. Put him and Jerome Baker as Edge rushers who can also cover TEs / RBs and you have a classic 3-4.
This allows Kiko to return to ILB where he is best suited.
Wilkins was brought in among other reasons because he can play everywhere in the DL (meaning as a hybrid 3 tech DT slash modern 3-4 DE).
How often have I lamented that our 7th round picks were JAG.
Not this year. We get a FB and a RB, 2 big huge needs, not some tweener DB.
To run the NE offense you need a guy who thinks FB is his JOB,
not some reluctant part-timer H-back, but a real snot-knocker,
who celebrates first downs when all he did was block!
In the NE Playbook, it says “Insert Cox here.”
And how often do you get the all time leading rusher from a major college
in the 7th round? We needed a scat-back defensive heart-breaker
to change of pace from the super man duo of Drake and Ballage.
A sneaky little pest who scored 62 f’n times in college.
Again using the Super Bowl dynasty paradigm.
His plays are already designed, tested, and highly successful
and the OC knows exactly the down and distance at which they work.
Grier – A+
Flores – that quiet grin
the late rounders and the UDFA certainly have some talent, but often cannot make the final rosters
but You gotta love how they come in and compete!
every once in awhile, and its rare, but every so often we get a decent UDFA
they wont ever be impact players, but sometimes practice squadders or ST duty.
and always a chance for a role player
last year we got Cornell Armstrong in the 6th, WHO?
and Quentin Polling in the 7th,
we did get a kicker Sanders in the seventh
but there isnt any top quality at the end of drafts, they are still jags , but even jags have great college careers, they just didnt make it at the next level
One of our local boys that’s been around since a peewee Chris Gaynor
just got picked up by the Rams
Wishing him the best of luck he can stick
Good kid great family
Stone man Douglas alum
His little brother Corey is at THE U
Also a nasty lineman
Someone to keep an eye on
everyone must have listened to my Disney advice, lmao its a runaway freight train this morning, going straight UP!!
Disney is the best blue chip in the market, all others can only dream of the wall street princess
LOL, of course Disney is up. Endgame just took in all the money in the world over the weekend.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/29/raiders-wanted-to-trade-down-from-no-4-but-the-phone-never-rang/
Supposedly, no one was willing to trade up early this draft. That kind of tells you what the GM opinion of this QB class was. I liked Haskins, but obviously GMs didn’t especially since even Washington didn’t do any moving. The Cards saying there was other interest for Rosen may be defensive posturing after getting fleeced but I think he’s right. Rosen still had lots of value and I’m super excited we get to work with it.
I don’t see Murray having success with that organization and we have a strong chance of picking up the best QB of this ‘draft’. It feels good to see competent people at the top.
We will be selecting a QB in the first round next year.
Rosen had nine games with three or more touchdown passes at UCLA, including a high against Hawaii in 2017.
Rosen had 17 300-yard passing games at UCLA in 30 starts.
Rosen had six 400-yard passing games at UCLA, including five in 2017. His career high was 491 against Texas A&M that season.
At Saint John Bosco High in Southern California, Rosen was ranked at Scout’s No. 1 quarterback recruit.
Randy says:
April 29, 2019 at 1:02 am
I thought GOT was pretty predictable……you knew the undead were gonna be defeated….and you knew the only way that happens is if somebody kills the big guy so they could kill all the undead at once.
Well yeah, they the characters stated last episode that that would be the plan so it was predicted not predictable. With only 3 episodes left they kind of had to wrap up the night king portion now.
My biggest complaint is that for the first 1/2 hour of the show it was so dark I couldn’t see wtf was going on! I even re-wound and turned off all the lights in the living room to try to see better. The dragon battle scenes were nearly invisible. I even tried messing with the brightness and contrast on my TV to no avail.
I couldn’t tell which dragon was which, who was on which dragon, and what was happening at all. That “Night King Storm” was really annoying to watch, or not see depending on your perspective.
Lol Naples
In the NE Playbook, it says “Insert Cox here.”
For me that was a nightmare, not sure what that means for him
It usually is for wimpy kids 😉
Nervous energy is good for him.
A running game will be better.
My biggest issue with RT wasn’t his pocket presence, it was his inability to put any fear in a D. On 3rd and 8 or more his completion percentage was bad, so once we got a holding call or false start we rarely got the the 1st.
It was really frustrating watching QBs in their 1st and 2nd years make it look so easy. Last year against Buffalo we had them 3rd and a mile and Allen found a wide open receiver for an easy 1st, and I believe that was after having the previous play called back for holding.
Our 3rd conversion rate was always in the bottom 3rd, this put too much pressure on the D.
I was hoping to get Fitz on the field to see how a real QB does it, but not sure how much he’s going to play, at least it doesn’t make much sense to play him now that we have Rosen. Not that Rosen is better now, but what’s the point playing a 35 year old vet when you have a potential franchise QB, during a rebuild?
Ryan never had the killer instinct. Not every QB does.
The 2020 draft and training camp is going to be interesting with the 12 picks we should have, but this years camp with a new coach and 2 new QBs, and all those UDFAs, is going to be pretty interesting too.
The team has finally put something to look forward to out there.
you really can’t put failure on one guy, even the QB.
the reason we failed was the lack of intelligence from the coaches and the owner for hiring them.
you have to put your team in good positions, you have to run the ball effectively, on 3rd and 1 you don’t call a long pass play you get the first and live for another set of downs.
your offense has to be disciplined and work as close to one unit as possible, the teams that made the playoffs last year had this in common.
you have to play smart football and take advantages where you can.
it’s not the players it’s the coaching
if you watch the pats or the Rams when they break the huddle the players run to their positions with great timing like it was choreographed. they catch the D out of position.
we never had that discipline or created that advantage.
our players casually walk to the line like their shit doesn’t stink!
they may even look to the defense and ask them if they’re ready!
i had seen some plays about the rams where they do a mis-direction to perfection, the rec is wide open, they know where they are going with the ball before the play even starts. there’s no dropping back and looking for open rec’s, that’s why they scored a lot of points.
the pats and rams are playing chess, we’re playing checkers
Maybe we should bring in a head coach who over a lot of the years learned how teams like the Pat and Rams do that. 🙂
New Age says:
April 29, 2019 at 9:11 am
I don’t see Murray having success with that organization and we have a strong chance of picking up the best QB of this ‘draft’. It feels good to see competent people at the top.
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Now that’s a prediction. How funny would it be if Murray and Rosen competed at training camp in Davie at some point?
He meant Rosen was the best QB acquired in this ‘draft’, not that Murray would end up with us.
You are right —missed the quotes on draft. So turn that into something I would like to see. 🙂
Lol, that would be pretty funny to end up with both their 1st rd QBs. 🙂
Totally agree with Rock about GOT
I couldn’t see anything!!!!
First I thought it was my TV
Then I thought it was my eyes and I’m getting old
The reality is it was just too dark
The battle of the bastards blows that episode away
No more night battles please
I still don’t know what happened to the dragons…lol
Also in terms of predictability – I agree with randy
It was way too predictable
Look at this stage of the show, they aren’t going to people able to put something on the screen that some one else didn’t think of and make a YouTube prediction about
So predictability to some degree is a fault of the success of the show
But they made it worse in the way they set the scene up
With the music and the slow build up and the feeling that everything is lost that they milked
When you do that sort of Star Wars Esque plot structure where you try to get an audience to believe all is lost and then you drag it out, the individual minds of the audience wanders – and so many of us had already played out that ending in our minds right before it happened
So far I’m pretty disappointed with season 8
I hated the first 2 episodes and IMO this battle scene doesnt compare to some of the other big battles
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