Who will be the Miami Dolphins workhorse RB?

We all know Kenyan Drake is a HR hitter, a big play waiting to happen on any and every play. However, is he the proverbial cowbell running back that you can feed the ball to 20+ times a game and control the clock and have long productive drives? To be fair, he hasn’t been a given a huge opportunity to do just that. He was given a small audition, but with future HOF RB Frank Gore at his disposal, Gase chose Gore over Drake to get the slight majority of carries over Drake, and start drives on 1st and 2nd down. With Gore gone, there is no other proven NFL back on the roster.

Ballage showed some nice things last season although in a very small sampling. Ballage had only 36 carries for 191 yards last season and also added 9 catches for 56 yards.Ballage did have one huge run for 75 yards, which makes up almost half of his production, but we shouldn’t punish him by detracting that from his stats. I think Ballage may have some potential, he seems to be a solid receiver out of the backfield, and possibly offers more in the power department over Drake.

Myles Gaskin is probably the closest thing to Frank Gore in this backfield. I’m in no way saying he’s as talented as Gore, but he’s more of the low to the ground bowling ball type that that run either inside the tackles or to the outside. Gaskin had a wonderful, productive career at Washington. His 945 carries i9s actually more than both Drake and Ballage’s college carries combined! His 57 rushing TD’s is also more than Drake and Ballage combined at 57-46. His 5323 yards rushing is almost 1.5X Drake and Ballage combined. So what does this all this mean?

I think we’re going to have a backfield by committee. I don’t think we’re going to have a feature back, and I think if we’re keeping along with the New England way, we will feature a back that best fits our particular game plan that week against a particular defense. If we we’re playing a slow plodding defense we may feature Drake more to exploit their speed. If we’re playing a fast defense we may feature more a power set with double TE sets and a FB and either Ballage or Gaskin getting more carries in a power rushing attack. Just like we will be on defense, we will use personnel on offense to match up better with our opponent that week. The Patriots constantly changed like a chameleon using James White, rookie Sony Michel and RB/FB Rex Burkhead so that each week, their opponent couldn’t nail down a game plan against their offense. It was pretty effective in that regard. It’s like a baseball team trying to gameplan against 3 pitchers in one game, very hard to accomplish.

I like the different skillsets each back brings and as a unit, I think it’s a pretty solid one. This is the final year of Kenyan Drake’s contract so I would imagine he will be hungry for a nice contract next season which will give him some incentive to play his best. Ballage will want to add more of a workload from last season, and Gaskin is really the wild card. He has a lot of miles on those legs, but he might get a fair amount of carries if he can do for the Dolphins what he did for the Washington Huskies. As far as our 4th back, that’s too much up in the air right now to go into depth about it. It will probably be either Kenneth Farrow, Mark Walton, Patrick Laird or possibly even a player on another roster that gets cut once teams cut down to the 53 man roster. No matter what, I’m confident in the 3 we currently have.



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609 Responses to Who will be the Miami Dolphins workhorse RB?

  1. CavalierKong says:

    “…we need the meanest toughest guys alive, so we can finally start winning the division again…”

    How are Mike Tyson, Butterbean, and Brian Boitano going to help us win the division? 😉

  2. Tim Knight says:

    Good write Mike! It should be fun watching how it all plays out. There’s plenty of skill on offense to make plays and score points. The offense needs to build chemistry and cut down on penalties which always set us back the last few years.

  3. stangerx says:

    Well done MIke E — and last thing am worried about is our RBs. But you did just convince me not to take any of them in FF.

    And LOL at — “but we shouldn’t punish him by detracting that from his stats.” No one special in mind with that one I hope. 🙂

  4. what Gase thought about our rb is irrelevant now
    Gase got fired because he didnt do a good job here, sorry if i dont agree with his evaluations on our RB,s

    we have capable backs now, like any backs they need blocking and better coaching, hopefully we give that to them

    if Flores is doing his job, and my bet is he will, he will utilize our backs to the best of their abilities, and give them the best chance to succeed 🙂

  5. im not certain we will employ a single workhouse RB, there isnt a need for it

    we have more than one capable back, and they will all contribute

    the Dolphins went undefeated with a trio of RB carrying the ball,
    it was a long time ago, but the running games then and now share one thing in common, we will not be expecting one guy to do all the heavy lifting IMO

  6. bookman11 says:

    I would make Albert Wilson our workhorse running back

  7. TIm, i agree we have to cut back on penalties this season, too many penalties is a sign of an undiciplined team, and that is what Gase had

    i cant wait to see this team in action, its a much better team with Flores at the helm,

    Gase is a horrible HC, he lost the players

  8. D says:

    D says:
    June 12, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    “we do NOT have the best WR;s in the NFL, there is tons of room for upgrade”
    Sure there is, im not claiming we have the best, but its a pretty solid group to work with. We will see how it goes, but Parker has stud potential, Stills is a guy who is difficult to cover, so is a healthy Wilson and Grant. this is a slashing type of receiver corp, which is pretty much what they have in NE. We will have to see how it turns out. Worst case and you are right about Wilson and he isnt recovering well, we draft a WR in 2020, add through FA, or both. with our cap situation next year and draft capital, there isnt much room to worry about it now.

    • well said, we DO have some role playing WR on the team, and we have no choice but to try and work with them,
      we just dont have a WR capable of cracking the top 40 this year, unless someone just seriously steps up their game.

      but yes, we will be , and should be drafting WR in 2020

  9. D says:

    Wilson 8mil per, Jones 12mil per. Wilson 27, Jones 31. Its a matter of money, and part of the rebuild. I have argues plenty of times for reasons Reshad should be considered part of our rebuild future, but there are reasons to argue he wont be. Wilson, the only argument against is one injury. At his 8mil per its not a throwing him the vault keys by any stretch of the imagination. Infact we can part ways with him if things aren’t working out for no dead money next year. The contract he has is a perfectly fine one for a player of his ability. He and Stills both. The argument has deviated into just a bunch of chaotic deviations so i think im out for now, but i dont see the big fuss, we are fine and we aren’t overpaying anyone. we are actually in a pretty good spot right now. Its time to just start or moving forward.

    • the point was wilson will count 10 million against the cap in the 2020 season, this will likely be his last season
      he is not part of our rebuild, hes an expensive FA pickup

      teams are built through the draft, many teams add a FA here or there because its tough to fill a roster with the draft only

      wilson was also brought in under a different regime that isnt here now, there isnt a sense of obligation to keep him,

      unless he scores 10 TD and has 80 or more receptions yards next year , he just isnt needed for the rebuild
      however, if he can do that, pay the man, but im not betting he will

    • stangerx says:

      D — what’s it really matter? Wilson’s contract is what it is, he will be on the roster this year, his age fits with our future widow and we can cut ties or keep him next year depending on how his season goes. All we can do as fans is hope that he makes it look like we got a steal. So no need for a fuss….. except what else we have to do till camp opens?

  10. if we draft a guy like Michael Thomas, Deandre Hopkins, Adam Thielen, or Julio Jones, to take the double teams, then our role player WR may work out

    we need an alpha WR in a passing league, we brought in Rosen , lets give him something to succeed with

  11. D says:

    I dont see any reason Drake cant be the workhorse back, though i also dont understand why you really want him to be. The RB’s in the NE system have always been rotational, and a lot of them did have more specific roles where they excelled but they would be asked to do any role that was called for when they were out there. Thats said i think Ballage and Drake are very similar backs, and with Gaskin, Cox and Walton you have a combination of guys who fill out other roles while still being able to be receivers, blockers, and run both inside and outside. I dont know if i see us having a workhorse back, but Cox could be favord in short yardage situations, or a combination of him and Ballage, or Drake. I do tink that the coaching staff consider Drake their RB1 if thats what you were really asking.

  12. Albert WIlson was the NFL;s number 167 receiver last season,

    166 receivers did better than him, in a league with 32 teams, this is NOT worth 10 million in 2020

    he is lucky to even have a job this year

    • D says:

      He’d cost us more to not have than to have. 2020 is the year to talk about him. Im for drafting a receiver in 2020, but i dont think it has to be a 1st rounder. Ill have to see whats out there. I haven’t really looked at WR for 2020 yet.

  13. stangerx says:

    Long as we are looking at 2020 — Tunsil, Stills, Alonso, TJ, Parker, Kilgore and Fitzpatrick also have contracts where could let go if wanted without much of a cap hit. So flexible on them as well.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Tunsil will likely get a long term deal unless something crazy happens. 2020 with be phase 2 of the rebuilding but we need to see what happens in 2019 first, who fits and who doesn’t.

  14. Mike E. says:

    David – Why are you comparing Wilson to other WR’s who played an entire season? That’s an exercise in futility. He was playing really well while he was healthy, that’s what you should be looking at. Not sure why you continue to crucify him for his hip injury. If he’s not ready by the time the season starts, then I’ll start worrying, but we’re a ways away from that. Training camp didn’t even start. If he plays well this season, we can re-sign him at a better contract and rip up that last year, but I’m not worried about that at the moment. He’s valuable to us when he’s healthy, he’s not a guy with a long list of injuries. Let’s just see what happens.

    • i see your point, however injuries happen across the league, and for Wilson to come out 167, screams loudly he isnt what we need, not even close
      its an extremely limited body of work, so limited, there isnt any argument to pay the man big contract money.

      Wilson was in Miami one part of one season, we dont have anything else to look at, except for his lackluster performance in KC, 7 TDs in 4 years.

      we may have one more year to look at, 2019, and if he gets 80-120 receptions and 9-10 Tds, he wont be 167 anymore, and then we should pay the 10 million for 2020 for sure.

      he has done Nothing in Miami to warrant the big payday, but he has one last chance to do something

      if he flames out this year too,,,,,,, dont have to finish that statement

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well that didn’t go well. LOL

  15. wilson also missed part of 2017 with the chiefs with injuries.

    he has not shown he is durable
    he is injury prone

    what about the year before , 2016?
    What happened to Albert Wilson?

    By Joel Thorman@JoelThorman Sep 23, 2016, 11:30am CDT

    Remember when we were really excited about Albert Wilson taking the next step as a receiver? Wilson moved mostly to the slot this year where we thought he was a great fit. Along with Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley, I was actually a little optimistic about the Chiefs receivers.

    The season started and … well, what in the heck happened to Albert Wilson?

    He has eight targets in two games, good for just five catches for 12 yards. Pro Football Focus had him graded out as the worst slot receiver in Week 1.

    damn, his resume with the chiefs looks like shit too, he is the worst slot receiver in the game

  16. in 2015 WIlson was injured in preseason, but was ready for game one

    he has been injured in
    2019? he isnt ready to go yet

    but in 2014 , he didnt get injured at Georgia State, so we have that too look at SMH

  17. pheloniusphish says:

    If Ajayi or Landry had been worth a shit, maybe they would both be here still. But alas, they’re headcases.

  18. kenny Stills is our best WR now
    he even got rated number 10 Dolphin WR of all time 🙂

    1 Mark Clayton
    2 Mark Duper
    3 Paul Warfield
    4 o j mcduffie
    5 Nat Moore
    6 Chris CHambers
    7 Jarvis landry
    8 Irving Fryar
    9 Orande Gadsen
    10 Kenny Stills


  19. pheloniusphish says:

    Stills is a pussy. Slides short of the first down to avoid a hit.

  20. Mike E. says:

    Admittedly, it looks like he was playing against our run defense from last year in these highlights, but this guy can motor. It’s some of the worst defensive positioning and tackling you can find because he’s barely touched if it all on must runs, but occasionally you see his power and not just his vision finding those huge holes.

  21. Rockphin says:

    A few things;

    1. This is the same regime that brought in Wilson. Grier has been GM for 3 years

    2. GMAFB posting PFF grades for week one and saying he was the worst WR in a be league.

    3. Why am I even bothering to respond to these asinine posts?

  22. pheloniusphish says:

    Rockphin says:
    June 12, 2019 at 4:41 pm
    A few things;

    3. Why am I even bothering to respond to these asinine posts?
    A. You are a masochist.
    B. You want to feel smart and arguing with a quarter wit makes you feel that way.
    C. You wanted to have a duel of wits with an unarmed opponent.
    D. All of the above.

  23. stangerx says:

    David — we get it…. you think Wilson sucks. Why do you hate him so? Like you pointed out, if doesn’t work out can just let him go in 2020.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    David, you’re comments are becoming more and more absurd. Pick a new topic. We all know how you feel about Wilson. You’ve told us hundreds of times now and nobody agrees with you. LOL

  25. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 12, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    Not sure why any of us should be focused on 2020 as far as what we’ll need. We haven’t even seen this year’s team play yet.
    Not focused on it, im just saying that if there is a reason to do something, ie move on from Wilson, thats a more appropriate time to talk about it, after we see what happens in 2019. We have a lot of picks and a lot of cap space to use in 2020, so im not focusing on 2020 im just pointing out its not a big deal right now.

  26. stangerx says:

    David — how are you “getting censored”? Seems you have had a whole lot of posts go through today. Where there more?

  27. its alright, no biggie, i was done with wilson anyway. i spent more time on him than he did on the field, lol JK

  28. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – I guess it would be more appropriate to say I’m just defecating in his dressing room.

  29. D says:

    censorship must exist for freedom of speech to be appreciated! Sweet just isnt as sweet without sour.

    • stangerx says:

      And freedom of speech there is on this board, as far as content at least. But that works in both directions too. You can say what you want, but then so can everyone else about what you say. Just like in a bar.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Tru dat

  30. i have to find a way to communicate with phel, something up his alley, here goes

    i have all my post on a piece of paper, see it? but i cant reveal it, its a secret to be revealed later.

    but this paper u cant see , i keep it in my suit pocket, proves im right, but its a big secret, see the paper?
    the paper right here in my hand proves everything, You were wrong, lol

  31. CavalierKong says:

    I think what is getting lost in the Wilson debate is, do past results always dictate future production? David has some valid points in regards to Wilson’s injuries and production. He was looking good last year but got injured, and he does have a history of injuries and not a lot of production in his first 4 years.

    Does that mean it will always be that way?

    I thought the Edelman argument was a good point of comparison and counter argument, but the point was never followed through and illustrated.

    Edelman’s first 4 years in the league he had less than stellar numbers. He never had more than 37 catches or more than 359 yards. He was injured and out all of the 2017 season, and his injury history prior to that is too long to list here (see link below for the list). Yet he has had great years and in 2019 he was Super Bowl MVP.

    If the Pets had given up on him after his first four years of poor production and injury riddled seasons, they would have lost out on a future SB MVP. It’s always possible that Wilson could have the same career arc.

    So I agree with the idea this year is a prove it year for Wilson. If he gets injured again or is unproductive, he’ll likely be gone for 2020. If he has a solid year and stays healthy, then we’ll likely keep him. He’s got the talent, it’s just a matter of can he stay healthy. He is a Dolphin this year so, hopefully he’s lights out.


    • stangerx says:

      Don’t think there was any ever doubt that Wilson got paid mainly cause of his age, potential, and what folks saw on his tape. But then how many young back-up QBs have gotten traded for serious value or big fat FA contracts after coming in and showing a few good games?

  32. ill catch ya up to speed phel, no crayons though

    Trump: I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un. I can’t show you the letter obviously, but it was a very personal, very warm, very nice letter.. North Korea has tremendous potential and the one that feels that more than anybody is [Kim].

    or this one

    “In here is the agreement,” Trump said, pulling the paper from a coat pocket and repeatedly holding it up as he spoke to reporters. “Right here is the agreement, it’s very simple. In here is everything you want to talk about, it’s right here,” he said, without opening it up.

  33. stangerx says:

    Man is life cheap in some places. Sure does sound like Big Popi pissed someone off though.
    “Five men are now in custody in the Dominican Republic tied to the attempted murder of baseball star David Ortiz, authorities announced Wednesday, saying it was a coordinated attack for which the men were allegedly paid the equivalent of $8,000.”

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Read that he pissed off the local popo. Got after them to crack down on crime.

      • stangerx says:

        Or maybe it was who he wanted them to crack down on, or maybe both. Not a doubt in the world was a targeted hit at least.

  34. pheloniusphish says:

    Damn Dirty Ape getting all philosophical and psychological on us.

  35. Mike E. says:

    I can promise you that I didn’t censor one word. I truly doubt anyone else here did either. Why would we do that? Let 99% of your posts go through but just censor 2 or 3? C’mon now, let’s not get paranoid here.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      The Hand is behind it all.

    • i never said u censored me Mike, i have no idea who did what

      maybe that wasnt even it, maybe it was a server problem, im not privy to the details of the dashboard for this site.

      thats why i was double posting and the avatar was missing, weird shit was happenning that made it appear i was being censored

      its not happening now, so we are good to go

      im continuing to post now, so no one thinks censorship is ongoing

  36. pheloniusphish says:

    David, break out your crayons and draw us a bright red line between something the President said or did and Wilson, Stills, or you shitting in dressing rooms and thinking it’s funny.

  37. good question,,,
    CavalierKong says:
    June 12, 2019 at 5:48 pm
    I think what is getting lost in the Wilson debate is, do past results always dictate future production?

    always? strong word, probably not always
    but how would you evaluate a player whether he fits on Your team or not? or how much to pay him?
    i think You have to look at his past production, figure if he has any upside, or were there factors holding him back that no longer are?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Very logical response. I would completely agree.

      If we were looking at signing or resigning Wilson this year, I would probably be more in agreement with your stance on him. I just think we’re having this Wilson debate a year too early. We’ll get another year of data before we have to decide on him.

      We have another year to kick the tires on him. It’s a prove it year for him, no doubt.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He was balling last year and got injured just like any other player can. He showed what he can do already. Staying healthy is all he has to prove.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Well, what if he stays healthy this year and for some reason doesn’t produce? Then it raises questions on a 10 mil salary.

        So in my mind he has to stay healthy and show he wasn’t just a gimmick player with us last season.

        For the record, I think if he stays healthy he will produce. The combination of strength, speed, and escapability he showed last year was impressive and not fluky IMO, but it was a small sample size. Plus he has to show he still has those same skills after recovering from his injury, which honestly may be the biggest question. Hence, prove it year.

  38. stangerx says:

    Move over Arnold — Phelon does consulting work as well.

  39. stangerx says:
  40. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, even though Wilson was a 4th and/or 5th option in KC, he produced there too. You saw his game last year, that’s what he brings to an offense. Explosive plays!

    • CavalierKong says:

      I never saw his play in KC, so can only go by the numbers. But I can’t argue your last point, as a Dolphin he was explosive.

      That injury was an awkward one, and there was momentary talk of his career being on the line, similar to what happened to Bo Jackson. I’m just hoping that when he comes back, he’s got the same power and speed. If so, then he’s a weapon for us.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah, and he didn’t need surgery. He needed rest and rehab. He already said he feels 100% and just needs to be cleared by the doctors. The team took precautions in OTAs and minicamp to have him ready for TC which gives him another 6+ weeks.

  41. CavalierKong says:

    Holy shit!!!!!!! Blues up 2-0 after period 1. We scored our 2nd goal with like 10 seconds left in the period! I’ve already lost 5 lbs in nervous sweat. My cat had to swim up to me to say hi. I’m freaking out.
    2 periods to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. Rockphin says:

    The Duke of Krondor had nothing to do with it!

  43. CavalierKong says:

    Boston started off STRONG, dominated play in their offensive zone, outshot us 12-4, not to mention we also blocked 9 additional shots. Yet the Blues score 2 in the last 4 minutes of the period and have a 2-0 lead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Binnington has been an unbreachable wall. Give us 2 more periods Binny!!!!!!!

  44. Rockphin says:

    I couldn’t post earlier I kept getting The server is being updated (or something close to that) errors

  45. olddolphan says:

    CAVKONG: YOU ARE RIGHT about Binnington’s amazing performance in the first period. It was MIND-BOGGLING!!
    Meanwhile Tuuka Rask has failed in the clutch, which is rare for him.
    Hey CavKong, I hope your boys win!! I have to turn in and get some sleep. I’m scheduled for pre-op at 6:00 AM tomorrow. HOPE to be home from the hospital late in the day.
    Talk to you folks tomorrow night!

  46. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, isn’t playoff sports and hockey cool? LOL

  47. CavalierKong says:

    End of 2. Blues up 2-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blues held their own in that period and came a hair away from a 3-0 lead. Boston outshot the Blues, but we had more of the good scoring chances. Best stat: no penalties. Blues played very disciplined and even though Boston outshot us, they only had one or two good scoring opportunities.

    ONE FUCKING PERIOD TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. wyoming85 says:

  49. wyoming85 says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      crazy…that’s not a lot of money.

      People have been suggesting it’s some kind of organized crime hit

      But it might be some Schmuck who lost 8k in a bet

  50. CavalierKong says:

    3-0 with 7 minutes left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. son of a son of a shula says:

    Cav, you can go lite your car on fire now
    Congrats, no way they come back down 4 with 3:30

  52. Tim Knight says:

    Kong will be a very happy man very soon. Congrats! 🙂

  53. The Flying Pig says:
  54. son of a son of a shula says:

    Giant Ape screaming up and down the Sacramento streets

  55. CavalierKong says:


    St Louis Blues – National Hockey League Champions

    Signing off for the night and enjoying the moment for a few hours.

    CHEERS, GUYS!!!!!!

  56. manitobafinfan says:

    Congrats ya hairy ape.. at least I can say my team lost to the champs in the playoffs lol. And I still owe ya a 10 spot … come collect 10/13

  57. ocalarob says:

    My Wallet feels like the 07 dolphins!:( them damn blues!
    can’t never depend on a Boston Team, they win when you need them to lose and they lose when you need them to win.

  58. Mike E. says:

    Congrats Kong!

    Rob, you’ve heard the expression, bet with your head, not your wallet, right? 😉

    • ocalarob says:

      I thought that was what i was doing, home ice advantage, stanley cup experience, JEEZ!

      just tell Kong he can kiss ole stanley’s cup!

  59. ocalarob says:

    those blues are a bunch of puck’n cheaters!

    • D says:

      I heard who won on the drive in and was thinking man this should be a decent day for arguments lol, then again, i havent seen too many rivalry exchanges over hockey here so maybe not.

  60. D says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    June 12, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    did it make sense to you when the president said it?
    Oh so thats where it came from you had me lost as fuck lol.

  61. D says:

    Here is another thing to look at when you look at Wilson’s contract. Back-loading the money, but front-loading the guarantees makes him a free cut in 2020, but its also very open to be extended at a rate that matches production. In 2020 if they decided to extend him for maybe 3 years additional years, then they give him a 4 year extension which would take 2020’s 10 year and allow them to structure it so that cap hit is less (if they wanted to) and back-load the money again, front-load the guarantees and then reset the point at which he is free to cut. I mean his contract IMO was really well designed for a player with limited production but high potential.

  62. wyoming85 says:

  63. D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    June 12, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    crazy…that’s not a lot of money.

    People have been suggesting it’s some kind of organized crime hit

    But it might be some Schmuck who lost 8k in a bet
    It is there lol. Thats damn near enough to retire down there lol.

  64. stangerx says:

    Congrats Cav — bet you were almost as happy as that sweet little girl they took on as their superfan.

  65. CavalierKong says:

    Some interesting tidbits.

    Blues won 3 of 4 in Boston for a total of 10 wins on the road in this playoff run. 3 in Winnipeg, 2 in Dallas, 2 in San Jose, 3 in Boston.

    Blues were 10-3 on the road and 6-7 at home.

    In all four series, the Blues were a dominating 8-2 in games 5-7.

    In the 4 Blues wins against Boston, the Bruins scored 2, 2, 1, 1 with their only goal in game 7 coming in the last 3 minutes when the Bruins went empty net down 4-0.

    Binnington set a rookie goalie record with 16 playoff wins.

    O’Reilly scored a goal in 4 straight Finals games. Last time that was done? The Great One in 1985.

    Since the wife and I moved into our new house in 2006, I have seen the St Louis Cardinals win 2 championships, the Celtics win 1 championship, and now the Blues win 1 championship. Perhaps a Dolphins Super Bowl is on the horizon…..


  66. CavalierKong says:

    I have a friend with a lot of ties to the Dominican Republic. He says word on the street is Ortiz was messing around with the wife of a Boss, and that Boss put out the hit on him. Take that with a grain of salt, no idea about the veracity of that story.

    • Mike E. says:

      That story is all over twitter. They were talking about it this morning after a caller mentioned it on WFAN in NY. She’s apparently an big hit on Instagram, I think they said she’s an Instagram model, whatever that is.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Ah, I hadn’t seen it published anywhere yet. I don’t have a twitter account anymore. He told me that story the same day Ortiz was shot, and I tend to believe him because he isn’t a BSer. He’s from that area, has friends there, and visits regularly, so I figure it could be true.

        He was also friends with the Boston Red Sox grounds keeper that was shot and killed last year in Puerto Rico.

  67. stangerx says:

    Maybe Ortiz was messing with a mob boss’ woman, but remember the days of the urban myths? Talking people dying of pop rocks, fingers in coke cans and such. Would talk to relatives and such from other parts of the country and they had all heard about them too.

    Guessing the spread of those things took months. In the social media age more like full saturation in 3 minutes.

  68. Mike E. says:

    Kong – The story was that Ortiz bought this woman a $70,000+ Lexus, and the boss guy didn’t like that, so he put the hit out on him. No idea if there’s even a shred of truth to it though . . .

    • CavalierKong says:

      It kinda makes sense it would be something like that. He’s a hero down there, so somebody with some juice had to have a reason. but like Stanger alluded to, it could just be the rumor mill down there.

      • Mike E. says:

        If he (Ortiz) gets served divorce papers by his wife, we’ll have an idea it was probably true. 🙂

  69. Tim Knight says:

    The Ortiz rumors are crazy.

  70. wyoming85 says:

  71. wyoming85 says:

    Still unemployed!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Usually with vets like Branch, they’re still available because they don’t want to play for cheap but teams aren’t willing to pay average players what they’re asking for.

  72. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    June 13, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    If he (Ortiz) gets served divorce papers by his wife, we’ll have an idea it was probably true. 🙂
    Wives stand by them these days because of prenup papers. They woulnt get as much in the divorce than they would staying in it an holding the shit over their heads.

    • stangerx says:

      Guess depends on the situation. No pre-nup in mine, but best money ever paid was getting that one done and over.

    • D says:

      Pre-nups arent for peeps like you or i.

      • stangerx says:

        Why not D? Pretty simple documents actually. Would for sure have one if lived in a community property state, but then don’t.

      • D says:

        Im sure but most people dont guard themselves that way. It actually is becoming a seriously smart move imo, but you dont see pre-nups in anything where the income you have isnt one a lot bigger scale than most any, if not all of us.

  73. Mike E. says:

    As Yoda would say . . . “Judge Stanger by his size do you?”

  74. stangerx says:

    Mike E — loved the Yoda reference. One of my favorite posters ever. BTW — 98% sure that was M13 (and think about the why, even if only part of it). Ahhh the good old days.

  75. Mike E. says:

    Phelon – That just might do it – Boy loves him some Amerson

  76. stangerx says:

    We all want M13 back, but where has Prof Lou been? Something about those posters who keep things rolling along. Anyone still follow him on twitter?

  77. son of a son of a shula says:

    M13 come back bro
    Come on man it’s all good we’d harness that pig if we could but he’s a wild bore with TDS he’s out of control, lol.

  78. son of a son of a shula says:

    Barca- lounger Lou
    You must have been in Africa

  79. son of a son of a shula says:

    What an arm on Wilkins, I couldn’t hit that shit

    • Mike E. says:

      He can pitch, I’m sure he did at some level, either HS or maybe just LL, but I’d bet he played after that.

  80. son of a son of a shula says:

    Lou’s a good dude he said he was taking a break

  81. Mike E. says:

    I’m suppose to be pitching this Sunday but fuck man, I’m still not right. I’m not sure how it’s gonna work. Sucks!

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Get right mother fucker the team needs you.
      I bet putting on your underwear is the hardest part of your day, I hope you’re doing better pal that injury sucks.

  82. olddolphan says:

    BACK FROM THE HUMAN CHOP SHOP, otherwise known as the Operating Room.
    I spent over an hour at the nuclear med department then it was on to surgery to remove a malignant tumor near the upper edge of my right scapula. They also removed two of my lymph nodes in my right armpit area. Further testing will determine if further surgery, radiation therapy or immunology is required.
    This arduous day started about 3:45 AM and, right now, I feel like I went a few rounds with Mike Tyson. The medication is helping some. We’ll see how much sleep I get tonight. But my major worry is my wife. Mrs. OD can barely walk with a cane. Tomorrow dhe meets with a lumbar spine surgeon. A fourth lumbar spine surgery is a distinct possibility. The challenges keep coming. But we are determined to move ahead and get better.
    ST. Louis’ Stanley Cup achievement certainly brightened our day. It’s high time obnoxious Boston fans were brought down a notch or two. The Blues’ comeback from the worst record in the NHL on Jan. 2 is a truly mind-boggling achievement. In my book, it rivals the Dolphins PERFECT SEASON!! –CONGRATULATIONS CAV-KONG!!!

  83. ocalarob says:

    Get Well OD & MRS OD.

  84. Mike E. says:

    Best wishes to you and your lovely OD! Hoping for the best for both of you

  85. wyoming85 says:

  86. Tim Knight says:

    OD, wishing you and your wife all the best.

    • olddolphan says:

      MY thanks to Mike E., Tim, and all the great people who wished me & Mrs. OD a speedy recovery. Your wishes have already produced results. My surgeon prescribed me some heavy duty pain medication and said “Absolutely NO driving while taking this medication.” So I decided NOT to take it so I’d be able to drive my wife to HER surgeon’s appointment today. Now I’m NOT going to tell you it doesn’t hurt. I’ve got about a 7-8 inch groove in my back that was removed 24 hours ago. But the pain IS TOLERABLE with a couple of acetomeniphens. SO it’s off to the surgeons we go!

    • D says:

      He’s to you recovering like a ND instead of an OD. Hope you get well soon.

  87. D says:

    From personal experience, you need a break sometimes to really realize what is an isnt important. You come back to the board with a new callous and a lot less prone to having things get as deep under the skin as it sometimes does. Thats what im hoping M13 is doing.

    Also Mikey, wasnt talking about the law side of Stanger’s knowledge. I realize h practiced law, i was talking about wealth. None of us here are celeb status wealthy, so what i was saying about pre-nups is generally thats the realm of those guy. Maybe he is that kinda wealthy too lol, but i dunno, i never picked that vibe up from any of us. Some of us obviously do very well, all of us do comfortably well but i dont think any of us are celeb rich.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I believe Stanger did very well for himself but he’s modest about it.

      • stangerx says:

        Tim well is all relative. Put my car in the players lot in Davie and then look like a UDFA. But then drove past shanty towns in South Africa that make all of us look like Warren Buffet.

    • stangerx says:

      D — my only point was that pre-nups don’t cost that much. And in certain situations make sense as part of planning…. main problem is giving the ring, getting a yes, and then asking her to sign. What’s it matter how much is in play. Am sure $100,000 to me is like 20 cents to Bill Gates.

  88. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, a friend of mine worked on a documentary about shanty towns in Africa. Horrible conditions that make any tough times we go through seem like nothing. Very sad.

    • stangerx says:

      Tim — seeing how people live in some other places makes you humble. Long story why, but walked though some Mexican slums when was in college (talking people living in cardboard boxes). Talk about a wake up call.

  89. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      Guilty on that one…. seems NFLs Ds have left a lot of us behind.

    • Mike E. says:

      Eh, that’s nitpicking. It’s a base defense because that’s what you’re in when you’re not in a multiple DB formation.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah the main difference is just that teams don’t play base anywhere near as much as they did in the past. But we do know we’re playing some 3-4 because the DTs have talked about the switch.

  90. wyoming85 says:

  91. Phindog says:

    OK.. Who broke the blog ?

    • Mike E. says:

      I read that this morning on Yahoo – What a garbage page. They also had an article why Trump should be scared of Pocahontas (Elizabeth Warren) Leaning left much?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Funny thing, Mike. A cousin of mine recently let me know that my father’s side of the family was 97% Irish and 3% Spaniard after doing one of those ancestry tests. I said to him so we can now identify as Spaniards? He said sure why not, if Elizabeth Warren can do it why not us? LOL

  92. CavalierKong says:

    RE: Tim’s 5:06 post. If you haven’t seen this South Park, it’s one of their best ever

    The background:

    Randy sees this commercial which give him the idea he too can be a ‘victim’:

    So randy ‘rigs’ his test by kissing a Native American man right before doing the cheek swab figuring then his DNA will show as part Native American.

    When the results come back ‘odd’ the company has him do a blood sample. So Randy then sneaks into the lab to rig the results again, and this happens:



    • Mike E. says:

      Zach was the best. If Marino didn’t play for the Dolphins, Zach would undoubtedly be my favorite Dolphin ever. It’s like 1 and 1A for me

  93. Phindog says:

    testing.. 1. 2. 3. 🖕

  94. Phindog says:

    Tried posting an awesome Zach link and got denied .. WTF ?

  95. Phindog says:

    I can post animal farts and not Zach Thomas ?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Some links have restrictions. It’s happened to me too.

      For you and David etc., it’s not a censorship issue as some have suggested. I’m not part of running this site but I also know what is and what should never be. 😉

  96. Phindog says:

    For Mike E 😂🐕

  97. olddolphan says:

    HEY KEN if you are out there. I now have even more respect for you and your battle against cancer. What I’ve been through isn’t even close to what you went through. Perhaps we can trade a few stories at this season’s Fest?

    Be well, my friend.

  98. son of a son of a shula says:

    The Zach video is up.

    There was a guy named Atemplin who had a post needing approval it is so feel free to post we’d love to meet you. Go Dolphins!

  99. manitobafinfan says:

    OD : hoping a speedy recovery for both you and the missus

  100. stangerx says:

    Going to Wyoming’s Marino vid — Dan Marino in 1984 — 48 touchdown passes, 5,084 passing yards. No other QB had more than 5,000 yards in a season till Drew Brees did it 24 years later….. and he’s an at least almost Dolphin.

    • ElephantRider says:

      The Man would have 7k plus if he played in this new age

      • stangerx says:

        His style and abilities would have been picture perfect for the new hands off passing rules. The pass happy offenses too, but then we had one back then already before no one other than Dan Fouts did.

  101. Mike E. says:

    Are we talking about Marino with his old team, or Marino with the current Dolphins? If you’re talking about our current team, you’d have to temper those expectations just a bit. He’d still be great, but he had a great O-line and great WR’s.

  102. stangerx says:

    Think Marino could have a lot of fun playing with Stills, Wilson, Grant, Drake, Geseki and the rest of the crew. Whole lot of speed options, and man did he have that ability to see the open man and then put it into a tight window with both speed and/or touch. OL might be a problem….. but then the about the quickest release ever would be there too.

    • Mike E. says:

      Just think about Flores as HC, it would be pretty similar to what happened with Dan with JJ. JJ wanted so badly to be a well rounded offense, not to have have Marino throwing the ball 50 times a game.

  103. pheloniusphish says:

    I think Marino would be just as special with today’s Dolphins. He was a generational talent.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There are only a handful of QBs who truly raise the level of their teams and Dan was one of them.

    • Mike E. says:

      He was, but it’s harder to try to figure out whether he would be throwing for 5K or 6K yards and how many TD’s with this roster, and not the one he had during his career. Also factor in the HC who will want to have a balanced attack.

  104. Mike E. says:

    Phelon – While you’re here, was I supposed to be posting those pictures you sent me?

  105. stangerx says:

    Flores might want a balanced attack — but then he’s never had Marino either. His arm is far better than Brady’s and Tommy Boy still gets 3-5K every year. Plus he’d have a whole lot more yards if the Pats weren’t playing with the lead so often. With the current roster, Marino might be getting a whole bunch of catch-up yards.

  106. pheloniusphish says:

    Play to your player’stalents.

  107. Tim Knight says:

    We’ll never know what Marino would have done in today’s game. But with the rules the way they are, a coach would be nuts not to build an offense around him. Balance is great for any offense, but it’s hard to handcuff a QB like Marino.

  108. Tim Knight says:

    Stills could be today’s version of Duper and Wilson like Clayton. 😉

  109. bailbondmike says:

    Tim, I agree. They would also be top ranked recievers. Sometimes it’s the QB that makes a difference in how good/productive a WR is and if they make the pro bowl. Someone on here would disagree and still insist our WR group is garbage even though they had RT, Os and Moore throwing them the ball.

  110. stangerx says:

    Hard to erase knowing his history and what team you root for. But what QB today would you take over Marino if there was some kind of draft on it? And make them all the exact age.

  111. pheloniusphish says:

    Hmmm….Keeps telling me I’ve already posted this, but I can’t find it.


    • manitobafinfan says:

      Kewl read Phelon . tanx.. if Wilson and Grant haven’t lost a step and are ready week 1 I think we look pretty good. .. Butler did flash a bit at end of last year , can be a cheap replacement if Parker tanks in camp .. Preston sounds like a steal as long as he keeps His head on straight. Training with Brandon Marshall though ?? Physically good choice, Mentally ? nassomuch

  112. olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: RE your Marino comments. It was my distinct pleasure to see every one of Marino’s home games during the 1984 season, including the playoffs and the Super Bowl in person.
    To say it was beyond mind-boggling would be an understatement. The NFL record for TD passes in a season had been set way back in 1961, I believe, by TWO MEN: Y.A. Tittle threw 36 TD’s for the Giants and, in the AFL, the venerable George Blanda tossed 36 TD’s for the Houston Oilers. Marino broke their records weeks before the end of the season. He and the Marks brothers were unstoppable! It was an unbelievable THRILL to see history in the making!!! And every trip to the Orange Bowl in 1984 was “an event of the highest order!”
    MANITOBA: Mrs. OD is set for an MRI in a few days to determine if she needs a 4th lumbar surgery. We are hoping for the best. As for me, I got to see my “scar” today as we removed the surgical bandages to discover the LONGEST SCAR IN MY KNOWN FAMILY. IT’s longer than the distance from my wrist to my elbow, about 8-9 inches or more! I’ll find out if I’ll need further surgery or treatment in a little over a week. I trust all is well with you and your special lady. Looking forward to seeing both of you at the Fest.
    How are things looking this year for the Blue Bombers?

  113. manitobafinfan says:

    OD , missus and a I are okay thank you.. blue bombers are 1-0 , game actually just ended 33-23 over BC .. many are saying favourites to win the Cup .. game 1, and an 8 Team league I will curb my enthusiasm for a bit ..

    I hear Chicks Dig Scars 👍👍🤪. Looking forward to seeing all at the Fest as well.

  114. olddolphan says:

    HAPPY FATHER’s DAY to all you dads!
    Mike E., I LOVE the art work!!
    MANITOBA: Mrs. OD already has commented on my scar!!
    Looks like I’m gonna get spoiled today.

  115. wyoming85 says:

    Happy fathers day to all you MFer’s! 😉

  116. we always read or think domestic terrorism is somewhere else, someone elses problem.

    but, they are in every community, and they are very dangerous. i protested a hate rally today, got right in the organizers face and called him out for his hypocrisy and BS.

    he said he hopes i and the ladies that were standing near me get raped for daring to question him

    i told him try it mother fucker, try to rape one of us and see what happens

    things got very heated, not just Me, there were many fights going on and the police had to break shit up
    thats the first time i ever was a legit protestor, but anyone advocating rape and murder of US citizens, and falsely claiming they are independant baptist, isnt gonna spout that shit in MY community without repercussions

    i know the landlord of the strip center, im gonna let him know what his tenants are doing

    • stangerx says:

      That’s some serious encounter David, but even if you might not like to hear it…. think the exact kind of one guys like him feed off of. What was the theme of the hate group?

  117. Happy Fathers Day to everyone!

  118. stangerx says:

    Happy Fathers Day to all you Dads out there. And feel the special need to give you appreciation cause just don’t get enough. Waited tables and Mother’s Day was one of the busiest ones of the year. Right up there with New Year’s and Valentine’s. Fathers Day….. sorta like any other Sunday. 🙂

  119. pheloniusphish says:

    All Fathers are Mother Fuckers.

  120. TryPod says:

    Happy Father’s Day, you bunch of old codgers!
    Now- get off my lawn!

  121. wyoming85 says:

    I can picture David throwing beer bottles at a bunch of Baptist’s singing hymns! 😉

    • pheloniusphish says:

      No gathering….even at the river!!

    • they arent baptist

      ive been to dozen or more baptist churches over the last 50 years, and they are nothing like that

      that is what pisses me off, they are false prophet cowards, hiding behind a bible that isnt big enough to cover their fat asses and lies. they are hypocritical fried chickenaholics

      the sheriffs department made an official statement, they will not provide any parking or other security for them, labeled them a hate group

  122. pheloniusphish says:

    Smoking a bison sirloin tip roast for F-Day. What is everyone else doing?

  123. son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy Father’s Day you mother’s

  124. stangerx says:

    Not talking about David at all other than for bringing his protest up, but went through a bunch of them in the day on the receiving end. One time there are like 5 guys outside a conference (will note free) we were holding with signs calling us N@zis and such. What do I do? — go out and talk with them. But funny part was as the conference was about start watched them take off their “protesting the Vietnam War stuff,” put on blazers and transition into “conference attendee” wear. But guess everyone does what they do.

  125. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t have that long before I go back to work Phelon!

  126. wyoming85 says:

    Is this it David?

  127. wyoming85 says:

    Or this one?

  128. wyoming85 says:

    This one?

    • stangerx says:

      David’s protest was against White Nationalists rather than homophobia….so seems unlikely.

      • wyoming85 says:

        I’m just checking the news sites to see what was going on?
        I’m only finding these 2 though!

      • stangerx says:

        It’s all over the news…. and was up where David lives. But he’s making it like Quiz of the day for whatever reason. Not sure what you or I would do to spoil his plan on Monday to get the faux Baptist Church kicked out, but he’s a careful planner. So must have his reasons.

  129. nope, i dont live in south FL

    • but you are getting closer, that arizona guy also attended this seperate event

      alot of hate going on today though, SMH

      i guess its not a big deal to say, but they are in Clermont, pastor/false prophet Boyle
      and his hate group
      he advocates arresting and executing American citizens that are what he calls weird?

      yet Boyle is the king of weird, he hopes I and some ladies standing near Me get raped because We dont share his hate , and called out his BS

      this is a slap in the face to all baptists, and to all Americans that arent party of his tiny yet very obese hate group

  130. naplesfan2010 says:

    Happy Fathers Day to all.
    Being a dad is not easy work, but it is well worth the effort to try to do it right.
    I’m happy my sons are Dolphins fans, although we don’t back the same teams in other sports.
    But football is King in my life now, so I’m glad we can agree on cheering for Miami.
    And they’re all coming here to watch the Jets game for my birthday, so that will be fun.
    Sad that they live so far away now.
    Seems like just yesterday that they were so into dinosaurs
    that they wanted to be paleontologists.
    Thank god they realized that meant digging in the desert for a living.

    Anyway … Here’s a sincere toast to all you dads out there. This is Your DAY!
    And let’s all remember our own dads and the great times we had growing up with the Big Man.
    Good times.

    • stangerx says:

      @Naples — my bet is you are one cool Dad. My Dad was a pain in the F-ing ass, but same time made me who I am. Funny how when those NFL players after all those years of their Dad pushing them in sports always say “Hi Mom” when on camera. 🙂

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        Gosh thanks Stanger…I gotta give your dad credit, cause you certainly turned out fine.

  131. my father started the Central FL Independant Baptist preachers meetings about 30 years ago, so i know most of the baptist pastors in the area. they are nothing like Boyle and his obese band of fools, not even close
    he indirectly smears My fathers name with his false prophetic teachings, and drags his name in the mud, this is personal to Me
    If my father were still alive, he would have them shut down immediately.

    Boyle is making us all look bad, and he will pay for it by God and a community that is rejecting Him and his domestic terrorism

    • stangerx says:

      So the Arizona guy was protested yesterday and they had another one today around the time of what they call services that you were at? How many folks at the protest? today

      • i live in Clermont, i drive past this place all the time

        there were only a few female protestors, one told me everyone else left because they were going to shoot to kill anyone that came inside, and use the stand your ground law

        but then Boyle came out and i tried to have a civil discourse with him, and he had the face of satan, like he was possessed and said he hopes we all get raped

      • stangerx says:

        Sounds like you and the others became the aftermath of yesterday’s protest. He for sure is on warning at least. And know you are going to call his landlord.

  132. naplesfan2010 says:

    I want to go on record as being opposed to murdering or raping or assaulting LGBTQ+ people.
    Just how I am.

  133. sorry for the disgusting subject matter

    i just couldnt believe nazis came into my community on fathers day to slap him in the face and shame his legacy. he was a pioneer in this area, and well respected
    my father reached out to everyone, and did alot of good for the cent FL area.

    churches are to help people, not harm them
    my father preached about a God of love and forgiveness for all of us sinners

    nuff said

  134. wyoming85 says:

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      cool pix … all in white suits.
      When i was that age, we always got a new white suit for Easter
      because we always had outgrown last year’s one.
      Even down to “white buck” shoes.
      Don’t know what those really were, but they had a nap to them like suede.
      We thought they were buckskin, which we thought was cool, but they were probably just some cheap synthetic.
      Not sure though … I’m so old we used to have real stuff back then before a lot of plastics and other synthetics were even invented.

  135. wyoming85 says:

    Good lord my wife tried to burn the house down cooking links on the gas grill!

  136. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads.

  137. naplesfan2010 says:

    Just got back from Tacos and Tequila Cantina.
    My wife took me for Shrimp fajitas and blood orange margaritas.
    She had mahi mahi tacos.
    The Fathers Day barbecue around the pool at our resort got rained out.
    Big summer thunderstorms here all week.
    High temps just in the 70s all week.

  138. pheloniusphish says:

    While standing up to hate is not a bad thing, calling everyone you disagree with a nazi takes the power out of the word. The group in question is indeed homophobic. Dumbasses, but entitled to their opinions and beliefs. If they were preaching their nonsense to each other and inside their property as it seems from the reporting, what right does anyone have to protest them? That’s just looking for trouble. The two groups sound like opposite sides of the same coin. Both trying to suppress someone else’s beliefs. Dumbasses one and all.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t understand why so many people/groups have such issues with how others live their lives. How does it affect your life? Everyone likes to say freedom but it doesn’t seem that many of them understand what it means.

    • they were advocating government arrest and execution, similar to the final solution

      thats nazi like behaviour

    • you werent there and totally dont understand the situation.

      i gave You a chance to google the incident, and u failed to do that as well.

      i was certain you wouldnt understand the story, before the story was given

      if u want to know something, feel free to ask, ignorant assumptions arent helpful to anyone

  139. bailbondmike says:

    I am spending Father’s Day weekend in Keaton Beach, FL for opening day (yesterday) of scallop season. Getting ready to do our big shrimp boil, drink more beer and play cornhole! Happy Father’s Day all!!!

  140. olddolphan says:

    OF ALL the calls I received today, the two I received from my 2 stepdaughters were among the best. Being a stepdad can be a tricky, sometimes difficult, task. But they’ve both made it very easy for me. AND I TOLD THEM SO!
    Next year my 2 oldest great grand daughters will be calling “POP-POP,” according to their Mom.
    I CAN’T WAIT!! May all of you live long enough to get calls from YOUR Great Grand Kids!
    HAPPY FATHER’s Day!!

  141. phel, Your posts on the subject have no truth, no merit, and no understanding of what went on

    You assume things , but were not there to see what really happened

    You know there werent nazis there, but You werent there, thats pretty obvious BS
    You DONT know who was there

  142. didnt mean to be so harsh on ya Phel, my issue is not with You

    these people are deceitful and dangerous frauds, and got Me going on Fathers Day

    have a good evening

  143. pheloniusphish says:

    David – Did you read my post? It was more of a general statement than a specific comment on your event. However, reading the articles it would seem the “Baptists” we’re preaching their brand of stupidity to themselves in a legally rented facility, not marching down the street harassing people. Is that not correct? We’re they marching around with signs or something? The fact that the preacher came out of the building to confront protestors indicates not.

    Then you have the protestors. If the Baptist’s were holding a service inside of a legally procured facility, why were the protestors there harassing them? Doesn’t matter if they were preaching satanism…that’s their right and harassing them was wrong. All religions have intolerant sects that espouse hatred and violence towards anyone different. From the articles and from your posts, it sounds like there were maybe a handful of the alphabet community there, outside of the building, harassing the congregation. They, nor you, had any business being there. You and they were doing the exact same thing as the Baptist – preaching hate and intolerance. You cannot force acceptance on people. They will believe what they want to believe.

    The other part of this is the hyperbolic use of terms like nazi and domestic terrorism. The incident you were involved in had nothing to do with either. Actually you and the protestors came closer to fascism by trying to suppress another groups beliefs than the religious dopes did by preaching their hate to each other. They are, at worst, cultish. And there was no domestic terrorism. Words have meaning and when people throw them around incorrectly, words lose power.

    • if u wanted to know what happened, feel free to ask, but assuming what You dont know is not doing anything but wasting our time and making yourself look dumber by the minute.

      i dont need You to defend nazis, and i dont need them defined either

      IF i ddint know what a nazi was, i can google, i would never ask YOU
      You are a poor source of information

      i know what a swastika is, i know what it means when its on someones arm, neck, head, and car

      i didnt come close to fascism, i have a legal right to walk down a public sidewalk.
      i dont like or support nazis, and i dont defend them like You do.
      i didnt go in their property and harrass them, the pecker head came out and got in my face, said that i and some other ladies should be raped. of course i would confront the idiot at that point, and dont give a damn if u think i should just watch ladies get raped and do nothing about it or not

      there were police there, if i did anything wrong they would have said or did something
      i didnt do anything wrong, but as usual, u have to make up lies and false assumptions about Me
      you are clueless , and just trolling cause u like to argue and troll.

      im not just attacking You, im also pointing out where You always go wrong in your logic
      nuff on the subject, find something u know about

      i cant waste any more time or crayons on You

  144. pheloniusphish says:

    SBJ. I don’t know why I try to converse with you like a normal person. You are truly a 1/4 Wit, incapable of cogent discourse. You were asked several times, not just by me, what happened. You either deflected or didn’t answer. At this point, I don’t think you even do it on purpose. I think you are just too stupid to do otherwise. Reading is fundamental, but only if it is accompanied by comprehension.

    • what you arent getting, is i dont want to answer anymore questions from You,
      i feel like You wouldnt try to understand, or would just try to fill in the blanks with innaccurate comments

      the event is over

      i have to get back to work

    • you are the king of inaccurate assumptions though, lol
      if there were awards for that,,,,

      a little hint on yesterday , yes i did do that on purpose, i wanted to see if others could figure it out and if u couldnt, it would expose You as the weak link.
      it was illustrated for all to see that You dont have good detective or fact gathering skills

      everyone figured it out quickly, it was only a simple test, and yet, You failed too

  145. buy some BTC phel, its more profitable than arguing

  146. ocalarob says:

    sorry to interrupt the cogent discourse however i never liked Matt Burke, he has a stupid look about him and i said this back a while ago and Tim came to his rescue telling me i shouldn’t insult him.
    i got a kick out of this article i read today.


  147. ocalarob says:

    Discipline and competition are among some of the topics the Brian Flores stresses daily. Under Adam Gase, the players looked undisciplined on the field.

    source SB Nation

  148. ocalarob says:

    can’t wait for the start of the season, Wilson should be ready to go, a great slot rec, he’s way better than Landry, tougher and faster. he should have a big season this year.

  149. pheloniusphish says:

    Good article ORob. We all knew last year that when we needed them the most, the Defense was going to fold. It was as certain as Gase calling a pass on 3rd and 1.

    • ocalarob says:

      we were getting crushed in all 3 facets

      • ocalarob says:

        3rd and 1 against Cincy, 3rd quarter, we’re up 17-3 and Gase decides to throw a stupid deep pass to Stills, from that point on we got our asses kicked!

        Looking back i’m glad he did that as that was the beginning of the end for Gase.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I thought the special teams were adequate most of the time. They were the only thing that was.

      • ocalarob says:

        i like the kicker we drafted, why pay a kicker millions when you can draft the best kicker in college with a late round pick and pay him peanuts, smart move by the GM

      • ocalarob says:

        when you are irrelevant for 2 years straight you throw the baby out with the bathwater!

  150. naplesfan2010 says:

    Thanks ORob.
    I do think just the change from Burke will help us not lose winnable games.
    In his defense, he was a first time DC thrown into the spot when our previous first time DC left to go fail at Denver. Since Vance sucked, Burke inherited a dysfunctional defense which then lost Suh and Byron Maxwell and suffered lots of serious injuries.
    Not that Burke got either help or support from his HC.
    Gase completely ignored the defensive schemes and personnel, apparently knows and cares nothing about defense, and frequently didn’t even look at the game while we were on defense, as he was often seen with his head down designing new offense.


  151. CavalierKong says:

    It pisses me off that Gase didn’t saddle the Jest with some nuttickler like Burke, but instead got Greg Williams, a proven DC. F%&^ing douchebag.

  152. stangerx says:

    My Favorite thing about Matt Burke was he looked like a DC should….. right out of central casting for the next serious football movie.

  153. stangerx says:

    The Dolphin’s Wire guys (USA Today) do a pretty good job. And no paywall to worry about yet. Less than enhused on going over our Tight Ends, but still a nice breakdown.


  154. Mike E. says:

    Hope everyone enjoyed their Father’s Day yesterday!

  155. Mike E. says:

    I don’t get why Tim busts everyone’s balls about criticizing the team’s staff. Why does he do that? 😛

    • Tim Knight says:


      It’s funny that after the Lions game last year I said Burke could get fired because he made no adjustments as the Lions ran the ball the same way over and over and they gashed us over and over. It was rumored Gase was going to fire Burke in the offseason but he got fired so it didn’t matter.

      • Mike E. says:

        Yeah, he deserved to get fired for sure. Gase I was willing to give another year, but I wasn’t at all disappointed when they canned him.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m glad with where we’re at with a new approach on building this team and a new staff with new philosophies. We needed change because we were stuck in same old same old mode that wasn’t working.

      • Mike E. says:


  156. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Just goes to show looks can be deceiving

  157. Mike E. says:

    Sonny – You would have been proud yesterday. I was able to pitch all 9 innings against the best team in the league, and we beat them 7-6. I hadn’t swung the bat all season, we usually have a DH, but we only had 10 yesterday so everyone has to bat. Chipped in with 2 hits yesterday, one of the them got the comeback rally started in the 9th when I led off with a single. Neither ball was hit particularly hard, just a couple of well placed line drives, one to right center and the other between the 3B and SS to start the 9th. That was a great win! They were undefeated last year, this year they were 6-1, now 6-2.

  158. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, the Mets season will likely be defined on this road trip. Not confident they can survive this.

  159. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Ah, OK, actually I’m past the sciatica pain thankfully. My biggest obstacle was really not pitching in about 4 weeks, and this was really the first major activity I’ve done in a few weeks. I have been working out but not my usual workouts, and I avoided any heavy weightlifting to avoid any further back issues. The rest helped a lot.

  160. Mike E. says:

    Tim – I’m not sure the Mets will ever see .500 or better this season, unless somehow they just wake up or something. They look an average club at best.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The bullpen is atrocious and the starting pitching has been sub par. It’s so frustrating, we hit and can’t pitch, or we pitch and can’t hit. Ugh!!!!

  161. son of a son of a shula says:

    Good for you Mike E, way to tough it out. You’re a gamer.

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks man, it was fun. I was so happy my back didn’t let me down. How are you feeling, how’s your shoulder doing?

  162. Mike E. says:

    LOL Rob – True that!

  163. bailbondmike says:

    Had good Father’s Day. Went scalloping for 3rd day today. Got our limit again. Going home tomorrow. So beautiful here. Wouldn’t mind retiring here. Very peaceful!

    • stangerx says:

      BBM — if the world ever comes crashing down I’m heading to your place….. you’ll always know how to eat. How many of your favorite scallop dinners could you feed on one day’s limit? Where I grew up had clams, oysters and mussels. And getting a bushel of any of those took a team of us.

    • D says:

      Where did you go scalloping at BBM?

    • D says:

      NM i saw you say Keaton beach earlier. I prefer the scalloping a little further up the gul up closer to PSJ and Apalachicola. PSJ bay usually is really good for scalloping, but im not sure how it would be now after hurricane Michael.

  164. pheloniusphish says:

    Son – No go on Sanford. I hate losing. At anything.

  165. naplesfan2010 says:

    I’ve never been scalloping.
    That’s fascinating.
    How do you do that?
    What’s the catch limit?

  166. son of a son of a shula says:

    Mike I’m doing a lot better. I’m back to my standard ordinary pain now.

  167. son of a son of a shula says:

    I’m not playing golf with David. With the things I call a golf ball he’d have protests lined up for days.

  168. ocalarob says:

    I just thought i’d take David to give you guys a chance.

  169. pheloniusphish says:

    ORob, I suck at golf. Anything close to 100 is a good day for me. But I do hit the ball hard.

  170. Phindog says:

    I want to reply so bad but I just can’t. But I would pay big money to put a GoPro in the cart that Phelon and David would share on the links. 😁

  171. ocalarob says:

    good article about wilson, david you should not read this, i don’t want to take away from the landry infatuation you have.


  172. ocalarob says:

    that was great, wilson and grant high 5ing as they sprint down the field in the oakland game!

    • Mike E. says:

      Isn’t it odd that article said the QB play could be a reason why Wilson isn’t as good this year as last year. Maybe I’m having a selective memory moment but I don’t remember Tannehill being so great last year

  173. ocalarob says:

    fitz was a stud with the jets when marshall was there. he just didn’t have the support in tampa

    • ocalarob says:

      he went 10-6 in ny in 2015

    • Mike E. says:

      He should throw more TD’s and more passes downfield than Tannehill, he’ll also likely throw more INT’s, but that doesn’t affect the WR. I think the receivers could be better off, but we’ll see.

  174. naplesfan2010 says:

    So this article has nothing to do with the Dolphins
    except that
    1) the Patriots did not get the slick young TE they wanted and still have a mess at that position
    2) the video of the TE in action shows him scoring one of his 3 career TDs. The man guarding him is Kiko Alonso, and he looks terrible on the play. And I’m a fan of Kiko’s, but that was the epitome of how he breaks late in coverage. I mean a LB MUST wall off the outside on that play that close in the red zone, because his help is on the inside where the traffic is. The TE just waltzed in, and of course Matt Stafford is not going to miss that throw. Did the DC not account for the TE pre-snap?


    • Mike E. says:

      I heard that this morning. Do you know why he failed his physical? No doubt Kiko struggles in coverage.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        The PATRIOTS say he failed his physical and you know they always play the edges of legal on everything, so maybe either they just thought he sucked upon working him out or that he’s being wimpy about a hangnail.

        Green Bay immediately grabbed him off waivers, since they only have 3 TEs on their roster, and I think every team these days needs 4 on the 53.

  175. wyoming85 says:

  176. naplesfan2010 says:

    Derrick Morgan is out there as a pass rusher. He’s 30.
    Is he an example of what we want to stop doing?
    (attempting to reuse retreads as stopgaps)
    Or is he still young enough to offer a one-year make it deal?
    He had 9 sacks in 2016 and 7.5 in 2017.
    Then a terrible lost year last year.
    So he is trending down.
    But he’s experienced in multiple formations, quick, a vet, and a good guy (I think)

  177. Mike E. says:

    Naples – Maybe the Patriots wanted to grab him off waivers but the Pack beat them to it. I hope that’s the case, it makes me feel good. 🙂

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I know right?
      They might’ve been trying to finesse giving up a conditional 7th round pick for him, as it became obvious that Detroit did not want him anymore. That is so cheap.

      Remember who the HC is for Detroit now.

      But I think NE must wait on a waiver wire guy to clear every single other team.
      So Green Bay noticed that NE liked him, and they needed a TE, so they used NE’s scouting and stole their guy.


  178. stangerx says:

    ocalarob says:
    June 17, 2019 at 6:21 pm
    David and i against you and son, team game low man wins, match play, Golf
    ORob is hustling cause that just means he wins the hole he does. And dude is a tournament golfer. Wonder if he’d take the same bet if winner is lowest combined team score. 🙂

  179. wyoming85 says:

  180. wyoming85 says:

  181. naplesfan2010 says:

    That guy on NFL.com that I don’t like (one of several)
    ranked the 8 divisions and
    AFC East was last.

    In his write-up, he snidely mentioned that even having the odds-on favorite to win the next Super Bowl could not save the div ranking. He did say maybe the Jets and Bills both improving so much might make it a little harder for the patsies to win it.

    He never even mentioned the Dolphins
    (although he was forced to list them as having finished 2nd last year)
    He only commented that the 3 young QBs, Darnold, Allen, and Rosen, might make the div more interesting as the other 3 teams wait for the patriots to finally show their age.

  182. Mike E. says:

    Thanks Wyo, I thought that was the whole thing

  183. wyoming85 says:

  184. ocalarob says:

    mind your own business stanger 🙂

    • stangerx says:

      Once played an amazing pool player. He spotted me 3 balls my choice and beat me for ten bucks….. but it was close (whether he was coasting don’t know). Was like no way again, but then offered to play me one-handed straight up my break. He won another ten. Then offered to spot me 6 balls his choice after his break double or nothing. Won and broke even, but man did he make feel like was his little nephew he was just having fun with.

  185. Mike E. says:

    One time in band camp I . . .

    • stangerx says:

      LOL — not all of us were hauled off the mound and carried off on the shoulders of our teammates last weekend. Some of us relive the old days and other fought domestic terrorists in central FL.

      • Mike E. says:

        Sorry, that wasn’t at your expense, that line just popped into my head and I had to put it down. That still cracks me up

      • stangerx says:

        Would have been de nada even if you did mean it. And used to love the American Pies, but some of those that have lost their appeal a bit for me. Stifler is still my dude though.

  186. bailbondmike says:

    D, scallop season doesn’t open in PSJ for a few more weeks. The zone Keaton Beach is in is always the earliest to open. We have some guys in who are fair skinned and older than me (I’m 54) so they like to go as early as possible before its gets really hot. Also, when it cools down toward the end of the season (September) it’s harder to find them. Going this time of year, we get our limit in 1-2 hours. Gives us time to drink some brews and fish before we head in.

  187. bailbondmike says:

    Naples, scalloping is really simple and fun. All you need is snorkel, mask, fins and a nylon mesh laundry bag to hold your scallops as you swim around. We go anywhere from 1/4 to 1.5 miles off shore in the gulf but the depth stays relatively the same (about 5ft) depending on the tide. Also, if the winds are from the NE, E or SE and less than 10 mph (which it was this past weekend) the water is almost like glass. No waves but sometimes a light chop so it does not really matter the size of the boat you use. Water is crystal clear as well. It’s not just the scalloping but checking out all the other sea life as well. I had a 2-3 foot jack crevalle come within 4ft of me. We carry 3ft pole spears with us but I wouldn’t try to spear a powerful swimmer like a jack. We mainly carry them incase we come across a flounder. Most of the houses in Keaton Beach are rentals and on canals with docks. The house we rent is this one: http://www.bbpfl.com/Slice-of-Paradise.html
    We like this house cause we are on the main canal from the boat ramp (only one for many miles). We are done cleaning scallops and fish, showered up, drinking beer and playing cornhole by 2pm while we get to watch a flotilla of boats and bikini’s coming back in. So many boats are put in there that the flotilla lasts 4-5 hours. LOL

  188. Mike E. says:

    This scallop discussion is making me hungry!

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