Things started off promising against the Chargers. After 3 games, in our 4th game we finally secured our first lead of the season. It was short lived however, and although we were competitive, the most competitive half to date, we still trailed after the 1st half 17-10. That didn’t bother me at all. I felt like we were in this game. The 2nd half told a different story than the first half, a more familiar story really, one in which we were basically over matched. Whatever positives we gleaned from the first half were washed away by an ineffective offense and a defense that just couldn’t hang in there as the T.O.P. swung completely in the Chargers favor. In the 1st half, we allowed the Chargers a 3 minute differential in keeping the ball. In the 2nd half, the Chargers practically had the ball the entire 2nd half, 21:05 to the Dolphins measly 8:55. That says it all.
The positives I took from the game is that if you give Josh Rosen a semblance of protection, he looks more than adequate. The 34 yard strike to WR DeVante Parker was a thing of beauty. The pass was thrown with the right amount of pace and was accurate and in stride and it looked easy. Don’t take that for granted, we’ve seen that exact scenario gone wrong so many times in the last 2 decades. What I like about Rosen is he can throw the ball some mustard when he has to, but he’s also capable of lofting a pass with a little arc and make it a much more catchable ball, like he did to Parker. Unfortunately, that was to be our only TD of the game. I mentioned in the last article, Kalen Ballage isn’t cutting it. He’s not a forceful runner, and worse, his hands out of the backfield are totally unreliable. Our version of the Cards David Johnson he will never, ever be.
Drake had a better game but I still don’t see anything that screams we need to keep him on the roster, and that’s basically what this season has become, a virtual tryout for next season and beyond. This stripped down roster will have even more players removed going into next season, so if Drake wants to make sure he’s here in 2020, he’s going to have to more than he’s currently doing. I’d say the number of players I think are a lock to make this team number less than 20. I’m hoping that number climbs as the season goes on. I’m sure some of you will argue with this, and I’m being kind with a couple of these, but these are the guys I believe that deserve to come back next season (some are also on the list due to potential). Josh Rosen, Michael Deiter, Evan Boehm, Preston Williams, Davon Godchaux, Christian Wilkins, Taco Charlton, Jerome Baker, Matt Haack, Raekwon McMillan and Sam Eguavoen. Not all of these are starters, but in my opinion deserve to be back up to this point.
Philip Rivers only missed on 6 passes. He was 24-30 for and easy 310 yards spread out to 8 different receivers. He was sacked only once (thanks to Taco!). He had an easy day out there, he really did. The Chargers didn’t need Melvin Gordon as Rivers had easy pickins all day long. Little pressure and poor coverage, many times due to not applying enough pressure gave Rivers and the Chargers an easy 2nd half. RB Austin Ekeler gave the Bolts over 120 combined yards, almost equally distributed through the run and pass game, 60 rushing, 62 receiving. He found his favorite target Keenan Allen only 5 times, but spread the ball around so well we couldn’t defend it. We are abysmal both at defending the run and pass, and when our offense can’t stay on the field, it gets worse and worse as the game goes on. All too familiar for us Dolphins fans, we’ve seen this script now for all too long and far too many times.
This the BYE week, which will undoubtedly provide us with Sonny’s Bi-Week babe. I look forward to it, and I look even more forward to the Fest which is quickly approaching, just 2 Sundays from yesterday. Can’t wait to see all of you!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
#staythecourse
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Piggy we have discussed on here the varying importance of a left tack for a left handed QB. Someone posted a theory that it could be why they traded Tunsil. (that the team was planning on drafting Tua and saw less value in Tunsil with a left hander back there)
We need to shore up the Oline regardless of who is at QB. I am hopeful that we can find some guys without having to have all 1st round picks on the line.
At one point in the recent past we had a first round pick at LT, LG, C & RT (Albert, Tunsil, Pouncey & James) and our line still wasn’t that good. (injuries contributed)
I hope we pick a right handed QB anyway. One who is more prototypical in size and who is less injury prone than Tua.
Whoever they pick I just hope they get it right finally!
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On the flip side Piggy does have a valid point about protecting whomever we have back there at QB. (as I said I HOPE we can do it without spending all first round picks on big fatties) Just ask a Colts fan how it feels to suck for Luck and then lose Luck after 7 seasons because he got beat down so much.
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Vontaze Burfict of the Raiders was suspended for the rest of the season. Prior histories are considered when fining and suspending players, and boy does Burfict have a prior history.
9:17 AM – 30 Sep 2019
Good. Fuck that guy. Dirty player.
Oh yes, the OL needs to be a big focal point for next season. I like Dieter and Kilgore is definitely serviceable for another year. One way you could help the OL would be to sign a OT in FA and draft a guy like Tyler Biadasz in the middle to late 1st round. He can play OG and then move to C down the road.
Biasasz is on my short list of favorite prospects
Me too.
Holy Crap!
In 2014, when he was with the Bengals, he was fined $25,000 for twisting the ankles of the Panthers’ Cam Newton and Greg Olsen
In 2015, his troubles all seemed to involve the Steelers.. Several infractions in that game brought Burfict a total of $69,000 in fines.
Burfict was suspended for the first three games of 2016 for his actions the previous season, but came right back to step on LeGarrette Blount’s head. That brought a $75,000 fine. He also flipped off the Bills’ crowd.
An elbow to the head of his continuing adversary Brown led to a $112,000 fine, his biggest yet.
$281,000 is fines is unfreakin believable!
My response to “he also flipped off the Bill’s crowd” was yeah, so who hasn’t flipped off the bills crowd?
I don’t think selecting a qb with the first over all pick makes any sense at all, first of all Rosen looks damn good, secondly how many great knock it out of the park qbs were selected #1 over all?
look at russell wilson…aaron rodgers…tom brady…the list goes on.
you let Rosen become your starter and draft a qb later to learn behind him.
now who should we draft early?
you have to draft guys that mother nature does not make many of, these are big guys that are agile and can run also durable DL …OL…Edge rusher.
little fast guys are a dime a dozen.
lastly, you don’t target one guy. and you use one of your early picks to trade back and acquire more 1st rnders in future years, repeat that in the 2nd rnd as well.
I’m not that far from your take. If was doing it would go the old fashioned rebuilding way….. bug uglies on both sides. Guess with Flores D that means less big ugly on the DL and more 3-4 OLB types….. but could still see a fat assed NT in there too.
Rockphin says:
September 30, 2019 at 12:48 pm
We don’t play enough 4-3 to use a high pick on a DE in a 3-4.
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They may acquire or draft an edge setter as they went after trey flowers last off season.
MIke E — man you get no love. That was an awesome write.
Was interested to see how you are starting to like Rosen. I am as well. Not sure if he is the future, but sure would be nice to use the capital up top for someone other than a QB. Lots of season still…. but feel better about him than Tanny already.
Thanks Stanger. I like Rosen. I don’t understand in the least why we would trade him for a 4th? I want to watch him improve throughout the season. I think he may very well be promising enough to be our future starter. I’m not convinced either way yet, but I see enough good things to feel hopeful he can be the guy.
now who should we draft early?
Justin Hubert
Then you trade Rosen for a 4th if you can get it and use that 4th for a RB
Only way Rosen goes for a 4th is if he plays worse the rest of the season. And I’m sorta thinking about keeping him. Least possibly.
Two teems moving on from him will drop his value “just because”. I personally think Rosen will still be here next year and he will win the starting job (at least to start the season) over whomever they select in the first round in the 2020 draft. I just don’t think he will stay the starter. I say the over under is 6 games next season and then Hurbert will be starting.
If we pick a QB of the future up top in the first, not sure will drop Rosen’s value all that much. Think will depend mostly on his tape for the rest of the season…. and I haven’t seen that yet. And if we don’t take a QB up top or get a big name one in FA then seems we’ll never know what Rosen could be traded for. In 2020 at least.
We have Rosen on a rookie contract. There is no reason to move on him next year. At the very least he provides quality backup material for 3 more years. At best he competes with whomever we draft next year (assuming we draft QB next year).
Ding ding ding
Exactly! I don’t comprehend the rush to trade him at all.
we only have him under contract for 2 more years but point taken. He is very cheep for the position.
You’re right, I just assumed a 5th year option, but there isn’t one.
Another good write Mike E. Thanks.
#staythecourse
Appreciate it ER! My pleasure
We have two firsts in the 2021 draft. Am sure there will be some QBs going up top in that one as well.
If I have the first overall pick
and Tua comes out
I’m taking Tua
I tried to keep an open mind to other positions and Rosen’s development
But at this now- I think the debate is over
That said, if we don’t have the #1 overall pick, there are many other good prospects
but if we are the team that passes on Tua a decade from now…I can’t even imagine what this blog will look like….lol
stangerx says:
September 30, 2019 at 2:47 pm
If we pick a QB of the future up top in the first, not sure will drop Rosen’s value all that much
This is all hypothetical of course, we don’t know what will happen, but his value went from a high 1st when selected to a 2nd and 5th when traded after one year. So do you assume his value will go up? Will it stay a 2nd? only slip to a 3rd?
I’m just saying if he doesn’t make the front office pick something besides a QB with their first pick it will be two teams who have said “Meh, not good enough” which would conceivably ding his value.
As it stands I believe the FO will pick a QB early next draft and let Rosen compete (and probably win due to experience and knowledge of scheme, at least to start the season)
I get where you are coming from on that, but maybe just discounting the value of that factor versus how he performs this year. We take a QB #1 #1 then just way we went. Only thing it says is that’s the guy we want.
When Kliff Kingsbury took Murray said that is the guy he wanted, including the kind of O he wanted to run. But you are right in that case we would have decided Rosen not our future after trading for him the year before.
Same time…. we got him on the cheap both in trade value and his contract. Did pass on him first time in the second round and he was there later. And that might go back to the tape in his first year or maybe that the Cards let all the other teams that might have wanted him take QBs in the first.
Yea, we better have a plan B if we are targeting Tua. Because right now Washington has at least as good of shot at getting the 1st pick as we do. Even if Washington doesn’t take him, you know they will definitely be looking for the best trade offer from teams like Miami, Cincy and Denver.
Washington just took Haskins
I don’t think they take a QB
I think the bengals and Broncos are probably the main competition
And there are other QBs that are worthy of a high pick
Personally, I hope we’re not targeting a QB with our first pick. Depending on where we pick, we could get a fortune back for that pick, and still land a first RD QB if we’re so inclined to take one
We already have 3 first rounders, 2 seconds and 2 thirds
That’s potentially 7 starters in the first 2 days of the draft just this year
I’m a greedy 🐷
But we don’t need to trade the first overall pick if we have it
Maybe if we have 2 picks in the top 5, a trade down can work
But it would be nice to get whomever we wanted with the first overall pick
We may able to turn that into a current NFL player + picks in a trade. It really depends on what we need, where our other 2 picks end up, and what we can get back in return. I also have no problem taking a DE or OL with the first pick if they feel he’s worthy of it. I wouldn’t mind having the flexibility to do as we please though
I wouldn’t be happy with OL with the first pick
But chase young is a worthy pass rusher to be first overall
Please whatever happens, please Grier and company, pick the right damn players. If we mess up on this draft we are going to be the bottom dwellers of the league for the next few years.
LOTS of football yet to be played this year, and that’s a good thing if your name is Josh Rosen. If the season ended today, he’d be trending toward 88 sacks taken (nearly double what Ryan Fitzpatrick is trending toward), 8 TDs to 24 INTs by season’s end, and a 51.2 completion %… translated to a 57.7 passer rating.
Over the next 12 games, our FO will be assessing Rosen’s progress… not so much these abysmal initial numbers. Look for him to grow (albeit with some hiccups) as the season continues.
JMO, but we won’t be trading Rosen, period. And also JMO, we will be drafting a QB with our first pick in 2020… unless Rosen plays LIGHTS OUT for the rest of the season, which is highly unlikely with our current roster.
I missed the two games before, but liked what saw out of Rosen yesterday. And he did have a 126.8 QB rating in the first half. Not like the Chargers’ D is a bad one. One I picked in FF.
We’re going to need a franchise OT (LT or RT, contingent upon who our future QB will be) if we’re to boost this Offense. Additionally, we’re going to need to plug a couple of holes on the interior O-Line, none of whom go by the last name of Deiter.
We needn’t do this by using high draft picks, either (save perhaps the franchise OT). If we can do this (via the so-call “Patsie* way), our Offense will become significantly better. More time for our QB to throw, and holes for our RBs to run through.
Fins just need to draft WI linemen every year. If they had been doing this OL wouldn’t be an issue. LOL
ER — I wouldn’t be upset if we turned the 3 first in the next draft in to 2 OTs and a C/G.
stangerx says:
September 30, 2019 at 4:21 pm
I missed the two games before, but liked what saw out of Rosen yesterday. And he did have a 126.8 QB rating in the first half. Not like the Chargers’ D is a bad one. One I picked in FF.
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It’s strange to me, Stanger. Rosen looks the part of a very good, young QB and our eyes tell us YES. However, when ya look at the stats, we’re very let down with a resounding NO.
Best I can come up with? We’re so starved for a QB since Marino that our eyes will deceive us. That, and 1st half vs 2nd half Rosen. And Tannehill was very much the same way.
Full game Rosen had a 70% completion rate. Least liked that stat. I’m not sold on him in anyway, but not in anyway willing to give up on him either. 12 more games left. Let’s see what he does.
If anything was surprised they started him before the bye. Maybe that means he was looking good or maybe that Fitz did not. But still take that was watching him yesterday as a good sign on what the coaches think.
ElephantRider says:
September 30, 2019 at 4:20 pm
Fins just need to draft WI linemen every year. If they had been doing this OL wouldn’t be an issue. LOL
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Big-10 O-Line are STUDS, to be sure. Jeff Ireland was too enthused by speedy O-Linemen who could pull from any position. We need ROCKS on the O-Line! FOUNDATIONS by which we can then get pullers from the Guard position.
In a perfect world we get a RT in FA , draft Andrew Thomas, and draft Tyler Biadasz.😉
Then you get a QB, CB, and pass rusher with the remaining picks in the first 2 rounds.
Yea, I know more 1st round o-linemen, but even NE had a couple with Solder and now Wynn.
You and I are very much on the same wavelength, Rgs! However, I want our franchise Tackle to grow with our new QB. Depends on if our new QB is righty or lefty… 😉
Meaning… if we draft Tua, I want to draft a RT. If we draft Herbert, I want to draft a LT.
Yea, i’m Not as confident that we will get Tua even if we are targeting him. I think we will beat Washington and they will have the number #1 pick when it’s all said and done. …Which they will probably hold for a king’s ransom.
Plus I have Joe Burrow as my #1a and Tua as #1b.
I’m thinking in one scenario we could draft Andrew Thomas, Joe Burrow, and Tyler Biadasz in the 1st, then CB and pass rusher with the next 2 picks.
From a roster perspective, the best teams in the league are build from the INSIDE out. That means TRENCH play with the BIG UGLIES. Get to the most important position in football via Defense (QB), and the opposition’s plans go southward. Protect the most important position in football via Offense (QB), and the opposition’s plans go southward.
It’s all about INSIDE out. Here’s a song from my childhood that I still dearly love…
M -That’s why you just can’t look at the stats. Remember the the 1st game he started, we dropped 2 TD’s? 1 TD was Williams and the other one was Parker. Think that might just help his stats? Sure it would. Even in relief I believe his 2nd game he threw a potential TD that was dropped. Those hurt!
Yes, I know, my man! I’m the one who constantly lectures about watching the game tape.
My eyes DO like Rosen, but we have to also digest reality. Like I said earlier, he’s got 12 more games to improve, and he undoubtedly WILL… as will his receivers as they build more chemistry with him.
I think all you can really do is compare the team to when Fitz was in and now with Rosen. I know the scoreboard doesn’t show it and the stats don’t bear it out either, but the team looks much better with Rosen on the field IMO. It’s not nearly as painful to watch. Don’t you think? I mean this is a bad team, but I don’t think Rosen himself is the reason, I think he’s more likely part of the solution.
Stanger
They have plenty of resources to go ahead and do that if they want and still add plenty of pieces. But yeah, let’s fix the number 1 problem, or at least take a huge step to.
But I think by season’s end the pass rush will be the glaring problem……
ER — after the season is over we will be able to do whatever the F we want, just not all we want. Figure after it is over we will have say 7-9 new starters though. And only 11 guys play on the field at once.
stangerx says:
September 30, 2019 at 4:50 pm
Full game Rosen had a 70% completion rate. Least liked that stat. I’m not sold on him in anyway, but not in anyway willing to give up on him either. 12 more games left. Let’s see what he does…
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Absolutely correct, which is exactly what I stated with my initial post, buddy! We want to see improvement, and we undoubtedly will.
Beware, however. If a 70% completion percentage only allows for 10 points all game long, it becomes unremarkable. That’s the Tannehill legacy, sadly. That’s what a 5.7 Yds/attempt gets ya.
I think Rosen throws a much nicer ball. He has deep accuracy too. We’ll see if he can get this team moving and scoring. At least he looks better than Fitz! LOL
Agreed that Rosen throws a much nicer ball than Fitzpatrick. BUT, Rosen is no Fitzpatrick in the pocket. See Ryan Tannehill, for instance.
But to be SURE, Rosen is much better than Tannehill in the pocket.
rich0322 says:
September 30, 2019 at 5:05 pm
Yea, i’m Not as confident that we will get Tua even if we are targeting him. I think we will beat Washington and they will have the number #1 pick when it’s all said and done. …Which they will probably hold for a king’s ransom…
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That’s going to be a very interesting game against the ‘Skins. We just might find out who is truly willing to TANK, and far either team will go to potentially secure R1P1.
Yea, they are not good. We actually have the advantage. Plus, Washington schedule on paper is a lot tougher. They have maybe 1 or 2 possible wins, with Miami being 1 of them. While we have Washington, Cincinnati, maybe Pittsburgh, and maybe A split with the Jest. Though, I think Pittsburgh is still better than us without Ben and will most likely win.
I don’t care about the #1 pick. This new era has to have something to build on. If this new regime can get this roster playing well, it bodes great glee the future. Let’s win a couple games! LOL
* for, not glee.
I don’t think I’ve ever typed glee in my life…..weird…..lol
LOL!
“As they shouted out with GLEE!”
“Rudolph (Mason) the red-nosed Stealer*, he’ll go down in history!” LOL @ myself. 😀
Mike E. says:
September 30, 2019 at 5:12 pm
I think all you can really do is compare the team to when Fitz was in and now with Rosen. I know the scoreboard doesn’t show it and the stats don’t bear it out either, but the team looks much better with Rosen on the field IMO. It’s not nearly as painful to watch. Don’t you think? I mean this is a bad team, but I don’t think Rosen himself is the reason, I think he’s more likely part of the solution.
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VERY good post! And by the way, THANK YOU for your write today, Mike E!
I’ll say it like this… it’s most difficult to compare QBs on a team that has no O-Line. We can’t run the ball, thus we can’t take any pressure off either QB. We DO know that Rosen is the future, and Fitzpatrick is/was a mere placeholder, so there’s that.
I don’t envy this FOs situation in trying to eval Rosen this year, under such BS circumstances. It’s a very tough task, Brother.
Thanks M! It probably isn’t as tough for them as it is for us. They know what they’re looking at, when someone on the O-line blows an assignment or when a receiver runs a poor route etc. We don’t know know or really get to see these things, all we see is what they show, and sometimes it;s really hard to decipher fault. I think he gave this team a little jolt, and I it seems to me like we see improvement in small increments. Let’s hope at least that trend continues where we keep seeing improvement.
I cannot disagree here, Mike E. Like I said, see my initial post. Rosen has 12 games to improve, and he WILL. We shall see if it’s enough to warrant passing on a QB with our 1st pick, buddy!
Best case….imagine the ammo trading out of R1P1
ElephantRider says:
September 30, 2019 at 5:49 pm
Best case….imagine the ammo trading out of R1P1
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YUP!!! Unimaginable!!!
But on the flip side, if ya know who ya want, go get him!!!
I mean, remember how many years we wished we’d be picking even 1 or 2 spots earlier… sometimes wishing we’d trade UP to get a certain player? We’re going to be in a spot to take a top-5 player!
Yup
Rumor is the FO is all in on Tua. I don’t necessarily believe that. Either way, they better not Ireland this draft.
1: R1P1
QB TUA TAGOVAILOA
ALABAMA
11: R1P11
WR JERRY JEUDY
ALABAMA
24: R1P24
G TYLER BIADASZ
WISCONSIN
33: R2P1
OT TRISTAN WIRFS
IOWA
47: R2P15
WR TEE HIGGINS
CLEMSON
65: R3P1
RB D’ANDRE SWIFT
GEORGIA
105: R3P41
EDGE JABARI ZUNIGA
FLORIDA
156: R5P10
RB A.J. DILLON
BOSTON COLLEGE
178: R5P32
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU
179: R6P1
CB A.J. GREEN
OKLAHOMA ST
209: R6P31
S JAQUARIUS LANDREWS
MISSISSIPPI ST.
245: R7P30
DL TEDARRELL SLATON
FLORIDA
The last Alabama first rounder shit in our face now you want 2 more?
What are you joking?
If the Steelers lose tonight Minkah may get us the first overall pick
We should thank him
Those 2 yes, for sure.
Go 🐅
Tony Jones RB from Notre Dame 5’11 224 was looking really good against Virginia. Big bruiser.
Until our O-Line gets legit, the likes of Tony Jones (see Kalen Ballage) won’t be effective.
M13’s girlfriend Stacey Dash arrested in Pasco County for domestic battery. Pushed and apparently “bitch slapped “ a dude in their apartment.
Oh Bengals….screw you
At least two teams worse than Miami. Redskins, Bengals.
https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphins/josh-rosen-2019-charting-project-week-4-vs-l-a-chargers/
Don’t read this. You won’t like it and will disagree
It’s really hard to evaluate anything based on the level of talent Rosen is playing with. I agree that he needs to play better, but is he the kind of QB that can win with whatever talent you put with him? Obviously he isn’t Brady yet, but he looks pretty good when he has time.
I take these types of articles with a grain of salt, not that anything he wrote wasn’t true, but I’ve seen plenty of great QBs struggle, when they don’t have time.
https://youtu.be/bbrG0pqZLqE
Do not watch
I shouldn’t have, omg no killer instinct
The play also could have been a safety from the start. I think he lost his vision downfield and was in panic mode.
We must take a QB with our first pick, nothing against Rosen, we just need options/competition. A great QB makes the entire team better.
Rosen can win an SB with a great team around him, but I want a great QB winning us an SB with a pretty good team around him.
I like Rosen, but don’t think his ceiling is what Tua and some of the others are. I could be wrong, but we can’t assume he has a high ceiling, we must draft Tua/Herbert.
Dilly Dilly
although my preference is Herbert / Tua
Wash. has at least competed in some of their games, as has Cin. we still are the hands down favorite to get #1 pick. We may beat them in a couple of weeks, but we’re still going to get #1 pick.
Not knocking you guys
(yeah, I’m fucking knocking you guys!)We’re judging Rosen while playing for 2 terrible teams. I don’t really know what Rosen is, but I’d bet Rosen looks better in a Patriots uni, a ravens uni etc. You guys really think Tua comes in here with this exact team and starts lighting it up? I don’t know, maybe he would, but Fitzpatrick lit it up at times last year with TB, he couldn’t do shit here. If our FO don’t believe Rosen is the one then I have no problem with them finding the right QB. I just think it’s a little early to nitpick everything Rosen does with this shitheap of a team.
what are you his mom? Leave my little boy alone! SMH you are worse that Minkah’s mom.
It is never too early to knit pick. Who wants knits!
Besides no one on here was knit-picking. I posted a couple of links of OTHERS knit-picking and specifically told YOU not to watch them / read them because I knew you would get but hurt. LOL
I think Rosen has more upside than we give him credit for. Receivers need to catch the f-ing football. It’s not that they were just dropped passes but it’s more about when they were dropped. Lost a few TD’s and 1st downs that could have changed everything. I mean, Gumby didn’t light it up his 1st 2 years and sure his WR’s didn’t drop as many balls. We have to build a supporting offense where any QB could succeed, IMO.
^
Have a feeling that the “can they win even one game” Q is not gonna last long.
Have a feeling Rosen is gonna start looking better too. 🙂
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Next 4 games
Skins
@Bills
@Steelers
Jets
Rosen throw TWO ints in the Bills game and Minkah gets him for one in the Steelers game. (I came back from the future to post this)
I want to see one of our guys (RB, WR, TE, QB) give Minkah a Kyle Juszczyk stiff arm. That would totally please me
That was a freaking AWESOME stiff arm man!
You won’t see that from any of our guys though. LOL
https://www.49ers.com/video/49ers-kyle-juszczyk-minkah-fitzpatrick
son of a son of a shula says:
September 30, 2019 at 8:43 pm
The last Alabama first rounder shit in our face now you want 2 more?
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Well, if they take Tua, they better take Jeudy as well, because that kids superman circus catches make Tua look pretty good.
So, with going by what I said above, I tried to do that with my latest “FirstPick” mock. I really like this one also. I traded down from pick 1-21 to 1-25 and got an extra 2nd. Tried to address weaknesses but no QB in 1st, sorry: (couldn’t cut and paste on this shitty computer)
R1-P1: DE/EDGE/OLB Chase Young, OSU
R1-P9: OT Andrew Thomas, UGA
R1-P25: CB CJ Henderson, UF
R2-P1: C Tyler Biadasz, WIS
R2-P24: OT Alaric Jackson, Iowa
R2-P25: ILB/OLB Jacob Phillips, LSU
R3-P1: RB DAndre Swift, UGA
R4-P23: FS/SS Alohi Gilman, ND
R5-P8: QB Jalen Hurts, OK
R6-P1: DT Raequan Williams, MSU
R6-P28: CB TJ Carter, Memphis
R7-P30: WR Tyler Johnson, Minn
Was wanting QB Joe Burrow at R2-P24 but FirstPick doesn’t even have him in this draft. Will have to send them an email and say WTF! LOL I love this crop and we would still have 2 comp picks in the mid rounds. If I could plug Borrow in at R2-P24, I would be beside myself and would get another OT with one of the comp picks and maybe another DE at 5 instead of Hurts.
is that 5th round pick traded from someone else? We gave up our 5th round pick for Rosen (along with last years 2nd) I see you are drafting his replacement at that spot.
From Dallas for Quinn
OH thanks man!
Pig and BBM are already starting their draft research and kicking the wheels on what we can get after four games…..but if there was ever a year for it. 🙂
This offseason is gonna be the most memorable one ever least before it starts. You can go 1985 and Marino….. but that’s only cause ended up he fell to us.
That was ’83. There was definitely no fanfare before that draft. We picked #27
I’ve been fact checked and rightly. But I’m like Trump. Don’t take me literally, only seriously 🙂
you seriously can’t take him literally and you literally can’t take him seriously.
Take him very seriously Rock. Didn’t at first, but Trump has at least proved to me that I should. But if you were talking about me, then good point.
Mike E
Isn’t this your first day at new job?
Hope it is a good one!
He was already let go for blogging on company time. Poor poor Mike E
stangerx says:
October 1, 2019 at 1:31 pm
Take him very seriously Rock. Didn’t at first, but Trump has at least proved to me that I should. But if you were talking about me, then good point.
He is a buffoon. a self aggrandizing egomaniac who doesn’t have a clue on how government is supposed to run, what the powers of the president include and what they do not and he cannot finish a sentence without telling a lie.
He sounds like everyone else……
Trump is a symptom of the real problem.
ER — he is most distinctly not like everyone else. Other than on this board of course. 🙂
Rock — never said I liked him, Just that he has shown I should take him seriously. How could one not? Whatever he does and whoever he is got him in the oval office.
Other than his mouth, Rock described pretty much what I have been watching for many many years.
This is a new one
Solved
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1179094803390373889?s=21
LOL! Now, I hope that it is not anything serious like CTE because then I will feel like a dick for laughing at your bad bad joke….
80% of my jokes are jokes an asshole makes
LOL
Rockphin says:
September 30, 2019 at 1:55 pm
My response to “he also flipped off the Bill’s crowd” was yeah, so who hasn’t flipped off the bills crowd?
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I still remember Louis Oliver doing that to them i think was pre-game wasnt it?
And don’t forget about……
Yeah Cox actually rode the buffalo while he was flipping them off didnt he?
No Kirksey in your draft BBMike, bad BBMike, bad…….
the battle for the first pick in the draft wash @ mia, if we lose this game the Tank is in effect from top to bottom!
well, i have already said that I will not be making people stand up and make noise so take that for what it’s worth. (Rock is in the Tank)
LMAO @ Piggy!
After 1/4 of the season over, who is a future building block? We can easily find 25-30 new faces next year with all the cap and picks.
Rosen Deiter Davis Ballage Gesicki Williams Grant are locks on O. Wilkins Godchaux Taco Baker McMillan X McCain should be locks on D.
Who else should come back?
That was painful trying to find just 14 guys. No wonder we’re so bad.
LOL RIGHT!?
AND some of those guys are questionable.
Taco? he has played two OK games. Gesicki? looking like a bust to me. Grant? I like him because he is exciting, but he drops a LOT of balls in both the passing and kick return game. Ballage??? all 1.3 yards per carry and four drops in 3 games? next
Starting to have big questions about Ballage
Think we might draft 2 RBs in 2020
son of a son of a shula says:
September 30, 2019 at 9:21 pm
M13’s girlfriend Stacey Dash arrested in Pasco County for domestic battery. Pushed and apparently “bitch slapped “ a dude in their apartment.
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I can’t believe I logged out last night before seeing this post, Brother Son!
Don’t know what’s up with that ordeal: 911 call vs investigation. I NEVER condone physical violence, but Stacey can bitch-slap me all she wants (not being serious, of course). I’d love to know what made Stacey get into such a rage: that’s not like her at all. Very strange.
Said that the husband initially choked her and she was defending herself, but it didnt say for certain thats what the investigation uncovered. She apparently was having an argument with her 15 year old who then got in her moms face, and i guess there was a little bit of an altercation and then the husband came and grabbed her from behind, i dont know if he was trying to separate her or not but Stacey described it on the 911 call as him having her in a choke hold. I think after that she scratched and slapped him.
That’s what I’ve gathered as well, D. I checked out the entire report via TMZ, complete with video.
Phins are NOT giving up on Kalen Ballage, per Barry Jackson.
ER – Today is my last day at the old job. I start the new job tomorrow, jumping right in
Ok. Cool.
Don’t be nervous! LOL
Mike
Today is the day where you can screw up without consequences
Tell off your boss
Take off your pants
Scream profanity at the customers
Go for it!
Steve
I would remove Grant from that list of 14. He can’t or shouldn’t be on solid ground with this staff. He’s a dropping muff machine.
I agree, he’s electric, but he can’t hold on to the ball
Mike E,
I hope you have a GRAND day today! Forever cherish the friendships you’ve made over the course of your soon-to-be old job, and I hope you have a GRAND day tomorrow… when you transition to a new cast of characters, hoping you make new life-long friendships, man! 🙂
Thanks M, feeling a little sad right now, saying goodbye to some good people. I’m pretty nervous about tomorrow, just hope it goes smoothly.
I can absolutely understand your feelings of sadness… that would be me, too, man. Let them know how much you’ll miss them. LOVE is a very good thing, Brother.
Keep in contact with those ya love, Brother!
I am sure you will Knock em Dead Mike E…
Shit in the desk drawers of all those you didn’t like Mikey! Then ass drag yourself clean on their carpet!
😆
LMAO!
Phindog would approve of this.
Mike, change is always unknown territory but sometimes it’s a really good thing. Good luck!
Good write, Mike. This team needs a bye. They all need a self evaluation before the 12 game stretch.
Bring Cash to Fest !!!
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/vendor-arrested-after-charging-fan-dollar724-for-2-beers-at-dolphins-game/ar-AAI7BCv?li=AAggXBR
Stephen Ross strikes again! LOL
Lol.
LOL — wifey gives me shiot for liking to use cash like wearing white socks with loafers. But then the protection folks have sent her two new cards on her account after fraud alerts while I still keep chugging along on my companion card from the same place.
I never have cash up here, just use debit card for everything.. when we travel outside of country, though they don’t work so either Credit card or cash .. game day beers would always be cash ..
D, Kirksey? My mind is blank right now, LOL. I am going to save that mock though. I liked it. It is possible we get all that talent and still have 2 comp picks left.
“He is a buffoon. a self aggrandizing egomaniac who doesn’t have a clue on how government is supposed to run, what the powers of the president include and what they do not and he cannot finish a sentence without telling a lie.”
Thank goodness he’s not the PM of Canada.
He’d just learn to apologize.. 🤡
LOL
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001060989/article/2020-nfl-draft-order-redskins-no-1-eagles-jets-in-top-10
We currently have the 4, 8, 23 picks in the 1st rd of the draft.
Expect that pick 4 to move up, and that pick 8 to move down.
Glorious bye-week. Most pundits are picking us to have a good week.
Go Dolphins!!
Go draft 2020!!
I think our D MAY pitch a Zero this week 🤡
I wouldn’t bet any money on it, lol.
In all fairness this week should give our team a chance to get to know each other, make introductions and what not.
Once they’ve all met, the coaches might then have an opportunity to start putting schemes and game plans in so we can start playing together in cohesive units.
You will notice the Capitalization of MAY lol..,I am optimistic that the bye week will do just that , and hopefully we come out able to play a full 4 qtr game .. schedule gets a lot easier as well ,, that was a murderer’s row we started with ,,
We should have a few weeks of tolerable Dolphins football ahead. A win or two would be nice, but I’ll settle for competitive one or two score losses, lol.
Do you believe this?
Let’s see how he performs vs LSU this weekend
Lesson on college QBs in the NFL. How does Daniel Jones look compared to Dwayne Haskins? One played for Duke and the other OSU. Scouts aren’t really looking at stats as much as they are about overall ability and NFL upside.
Haskins is just 1 game in
Give him time
We will probably make him look like a HOFer in 2 weeks
All we need to do is watch what the Pets do to him this week, and just copy that. Like stealing candy from a baby…
I see two completely looking different talents here. I’d take Jones over Haskins. I know it’s early, but Jones was rumored in last year’s draft as being a very good NFL QB prospect but he played for Duke and Haskins was on the pedigree team. Jones spent his college career and his early NFL career having to lift his team. Haskins played with a blue chip school for one year. That’s my worry about Tua, not one year but playing for a college team that is at the top in recruiting.
Pretty insane the touch he puts on the ball
https://youtu.be/I53df92QSwY
Yeah that’s impressive. He has a natural gift for seeing it open and throwing it open. He has classic size too – 6-4 225. He reminds me a little of Mahomes and Brady. Kind of scary!
This weekend is a big test for him
well i didnt look at the video and dont need to, the way he’s holding that ball is incorrect, it should be up by his ear ready to fire, his mechanics are flawed
Brady was not a good prospect either. 😉
Tim Knight says:
October 1, 2019 at 7:28 pm
Yeah that’s impressive. He has a natural gift for seeing it open and throwing it open…
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Utah State with all of it’s incredible competition…
Can’t have it BOTH ways, man.
It’s the quick decisions and throws, not anything else. He sees it fast. He has a nice repertoire of throws and he can move around and run if he has too. I didn’t say he’s the best or the top pick. I just see something here.
I don’t really know what “Can’t have it BOTH ways, man.” even means?
Have a feeling that a whole bunch of folks on this board are gonna become experts on the top college QBs who might enter the 2020 draft this season. Be sure to check out the big uglies too 🙂
We need a difference maker on the OL for sure. We can get one in FA or the draft, or both. 🙂
I got your big uglies!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 9: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 1 Pick 21: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE/OLB, Penn State (B-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (B+)
Round 2 Pick 25: Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama (B)
Round 3 Pick 1: Brandon Jones, FS/SS, Texas (B)
Round 4 Pick 23: DAndre Swift, RB, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 8: Alohi Gilman, FS/SS, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ty Tyler, DE/OLB, Marshall (A+)
Round 6 Pick 28: Steven Gonzalez, OG, Penn State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Matt Womack, OT, Alabama (A)
Nice
That 2nd round Biadasz grade isn’t really fair
Fuckem! I’ll take him in the 2nd all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woot woot
It’s mostly a crap shoot finding a franchise QB. Having a horrible OL almost dooms ANY QB to failure. Brady sat for a year plus with a veteran qb to watch. Then stepped in to a nice place. Then he stepped up. It was the perfect storm.
It will be interesting to see if we can give him time to “grow”.
Our D sucks, again!
We can give a QB time to grow
That’s the advantage of having Rosen
The ability to rebuild the OL this offseason is sitting right in front of us
We have a lot of $ to spend
And picks too
I think the smart play I a to let the D suffer another year
And take QB, OL, WR, RB in the draft
That’s 2 OL, 2 WR and maybe even 2 RBs (including a late round pick)
I don’t think we will fix everything in one offseason
But we might fix the offense
Tim Knight says:
October 1, 2019 at 7:48 pm
…I don’t really know what “Can’t have it BOTH ways, man.” even means?
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DEEP scouting for a potential UDFA QB who could become a future starter, vs a top-notch QB. We’re not in it for the next Case Keenum next year… we’re going for a grand-slam at the QB position next year.
At least to me, it makes zero sense to be PRIME scouting a potential UDFA QB at this time. Understand me? And no, we won’t be trading Josh Rosen, regardless. That’s all I’m sayin’, man.
I wasn’t too impressed with the performance or anyone in particular in the game.
My only thought was Tannyhill started slow and the D gave him up at end; Rosen started fast, faded and D gave it up.
Don’t see anything to be excited about….long road.
Stay the course.
I don’t think Brady sat for a year, if i remember correctly Drew bledsoe got hurt against the Jets, and Brady came in at that point and finished the season winning the SB against the Rams
Year plus
correct, i just checked it
I do think focusing on one side of the ball for a talent haul could be incredible, but you have to hit on 3 of 5 at least. A tall order and best if hit all 5. That’s a game changer.
I expect them to hit on all 7 of the locks in the first 3 rounds
Teams should be able to find starters in rounds 1-3
Ha! You would hope you could find the best in the first 100. Grier better be on it!
I was at a bar called Round-up in S FL watching the Pats play Oakland in the snow playoff in 2001 when the non call Brady fumble against Oakland was called an incomplete pass and they kicked the FG to win the game, the Raiders were pissed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8gtOAyPWwE
ocalarob says:
October 1, 2019 at 7:55 pm
well i didnt look at the video and dont need to, the way he’s holding that ball is incorrect, it should be up by his ear ready to fire, his mechanics are flawed
He must have “arm talent” because his footwork is awful. Watch how bad his feet are. I can’t believe the accuracy with those feet.
In the first 100, 3 OL, QB, wr, rb….
Lol….that’s a whole offense.
#1 we and true te would also be welcomed.
That would be WR
Marino held the ball down low too.
Was he any good?
Mediocre. Never won a super bowl.
That’s why he never won a superbowl
I’m not a fan of Love so far and think Tua is the best option this year. Thankfully he will have the entire playoffs to show if he’s improved since last year. If not, there are lots of options this year. Someone is getting an amazing option in Hurts this year as well. Guy has tons of experience and is showing his success in two different types of offenses. He’s probably my favorite option but Tua seems like such a safe HR.
Hey, the more quality QB’s the better. Gives us flexibility to fill other spots if we can.
Phelon – Marino certainly did hold that ball down low. He brought it up pretty damn fast to throw, but you’re absolutely right that he didn’t carry the ball high.
If went from down low to down the field In a fraction of a second
Wyoming, Liked your draft also. I’m not taking a QB with our first pick though if Chase Young is there. But that’s me.
We’ll see how it shakes out!
I did like how the OL fell though!
I think our team wants a QB who is smart, great at reading defenses, accurate and has the arm to get it down field/make all the throws. I don’t really know who that is in this QB crop. Not sure where Tua is with reading defenses. Does he have to? I think that is the problem with the struggles in the NFL early on for most of these QB’s who come from dominant teams in college. See Haskins, dude in Arizona, etc. They have dominant OL and top play makers. Fromm is the best at reading defenses but lacks the arm strength and deep ball accuracy. Probably why we passed on Minschew (deep ball accuracy). From what I have read on the top 5 QB’s Love is the worst at reading defenses and was said it is his biggest weakness coming into this season. Burrow, I like what I see but don’t know enough about his ability to read defenses either.
This is why I want to build a team multiple QB’s could be successful in. That is why I am going best pass rusher with 1st pick, OT second pick, best CB 3rd pick and (looks like Wyoming agrees) C Tyler Badassz at 2-1. Then another OT by the end of the 3rd round.
We ain’t losing this week!
bye week, thats just peachy !
COPY AND PASTE
MIAMI @ BYE
be nice to draft a gardner minshew, how did we miss this guy? drafted in the 6th round, i know Pro Lou was blowing his horn.
I wanted us to draft him as well.
Yeah I think it was BBM that wanted him most. Lou mentioned him but Lou mentions a lot of guys over the course of draft discussion. BBM was a fan most the process of I remember correctly. That said I still don’t think the guy is elite, or ever will be. He looks to me like one of the QB kinda like Matt schaub who is going to get the job done for a while but never really lead the team to big things or extended success. Not shitting on him, but I’m not on the minshew wagon right yet
great game last night between wash and milwaukee
Marino got sacked 270 times in 242 career games. I’m cool if he chose to hold the ball low. 🙂
ocalarob says:
October 2, 2019 at 10:06 am (Edit)
COPY AND PASTE
MIAMI @ BYE
Miami 3 BYE 2