Hall of Fame : Zach Thomas

I was listening to NFL radio on my drive home last night from work. They were interviewing one of the guys responsible for notifying players that they have made it into the Hall of Fame. It was really interesting, and a nice perspective on it. One of the first things he said was he would love to eliminate the word “snub” from all Hall of Fame discussions. He elaborated that all people do with the voting is vote people “IN”, no one gets voted out. When someone doesn’t get in they simply didn’t get enough votes to get in.

So get this . . . The NFL is celebrating it’s 100th year, it all started back in 1920. Then Pro Football Hall of Fame was created in 1963. That means that for 43 years, no player was inducted in the Hall of Fame which created quite a backlog. This is just one of the obstacles that the committee faces and has faced since it started. It’s far from just being a backlog that’s the issue. There are literally so many great players that are worthy for consideration. The fact that Zach Thomas is on the cusp of this greatness speaks to just how great he was. This is the 2nd year in a row in which Zach is being considered, last year as a Semi Finalist, this year as a Finalist.

More perspective. There are 341 players in the Hall of Fame. Only 189 are currently alive. Three Hundred and Forty One. I’ve been watching football since the late 1960’s, and it was probably not until at least the 80’s where I really started to understand the game better, and I can think of so many great players that I’ve seen. Zach is getting recognition, being a finalist is no joke or easy accomplishment. 341, that’s a very small number taking into account a span of 100 years and so many players.

Some more perspective – Here’s the list of Finalists with Zach this year.

Bryant Young DT

Richard Seymour DE/DT

Sam Mills LB

John Lynch S

Edgerrin James RB

Steve Hutchinson OG

Torry Holt WR

Alan Faneca OG

LeRoy Butler S

Isaac Bruce WR

Tony Boselli OT

Steve Atwater S

Reggie Wayne WR

Troy Polamalu S

I saw each and every one of those players play and this truly constitutes the best of the best. You can’t look at any one of those names and deny their greatness. They were all dominant players who were special. Zach Thomas is right there with them. The 2nd picture shows how he played the game, he played with abandon and put his body on the line each and every game. Luke Kuechly retiring at the age of 28 is a sobering reminder of just how much of a toll this game takes on your body and mind. Zach played in 13 NFL seasons and he felt the wear and tear of concussions and other physical damage. He purchased a Hyperbaric Chamber so he could attempt to minimize the effects of those concussions. There was no official count, but there were too many for sure.

Zach Thomas’ stats stand up against anyone’s. He was just a fantastic player. He was a 5 time 1st Team All Pro. That’s huge! He was also a 7 time Pro Bowler. All this in a league that had LB’s like Junior Seau, Derrick Thomas, Brian Urlacher etc.

1734 tackles, 16 FF’s, 20.5 sacks, 17 INT’s, 4 defensive TD’s, 48 passes defensed and 74 tackles for loss, the first 3 years of his career both TFL and passes defensed were not accounted for.

As most of you know, I got to meet Zach Thomas and spent a good deal of time talking to him. He was so gracious to do that, especially when he was on his own vacation, but that’s how selfless he is. He couldn’t be any more humble or down to earth, just a regular guy talking about the game he loved. I hope he gets in and I hope I get to see it, but it’s no slight if he doesn’t, there are just so many great players and not enough spots for them all.

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  1. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:
  2. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I once had a boss with the same name as this guy (yes I sang this song incessantly around him)
    Not the same guy though

  3. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:
  4. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Even trade up to 2, if Cincy blinks you get Burrow otherwise you get Young. We need either.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      I’d be down with that.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think that will be really expensive with Rivera a defensive coach sitting there with Young on the board. I don’t see Cincy blinking on Burrow. I hope we stay at #5 and just take the highest rated player on our board and use our multiple quality draft picks to upgrade the roster throughout.

      We’ll have already dipped into FA so maybe that changes our plan in some way, but having 6 (3 1st, 2 2nd and a 3rd) picks already on the team after day 2 is pretty rare. That can turn a team around pretty quickly if you hit on most of them. Then we have at least another 6 picks on day 3 to provide competition along with UDFAs. I could see this roster having 20-25 new players next year.

  5. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:
  6. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:
  7. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    This dedication goes out to Joe Burrow

  8. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:
  9. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:
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  11. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Picture of Son today

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  13. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    If we stay with the picks we have and I’m sure we’ll make a trade or two even if not a big one, I think this is what has to happen to turn this team around. We all know the draft is not a prefect science and not all picks are going to pan out the way they’re projected.

    1st round – one has to be a stud, one has to be a solid core player, the other at least serviceable.
    2nd round – one has to be a stud or solid core player, the other at least serviceable.
    3rd round – a solid core player or at least serviceable.

    If we do that we’re in good shape. If better than that, great!

  14. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING give the Winnipeg Jets a royal ass-kicking on the plains of Manitoba in tonight’s 7-1 blowout victory. Young Anthony Cirelli gets his first NHL hat trick, and Vaselivskiy stops 28 of the Jets 29 shots in a most impressive road victory—Vasy’s 10th consecutive win, matching a franchise record.

    I normally DON’T get too hyped for hockey until after the Super Bowl. But this Lightning team has been on a huge roll after a so-so start to the season. MORE GUYS who are downright nasty, and a more even distribution of scoring makes this team VERY DANGEROUS come playoff time. And don’t think these guys aren’t motivated by last season’s playoff collapse. They’ve had this “Pissed-Off Demeanor” since Game 1 of the season. IF they can avoid key injuries, this Lightning team right now is poised for the playoffs. And they remain, far and away, the top story in sports in the greater Tampa Bay area. I literally can’t remember the last time the Lightning failed to sell out a home game. I salute owner Jeffrey Vinik, and his business partner, Bill Gates, for revitalizing Tampa Bay’s downtown area into something the whole community can be proud of.

    This town is ready for a winner. And the 2020 Lightning may be just the team to bring home the trophy. SWE WANT THE CUP, AGAIN!!! –Go Bolts!!

  15. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t see Reshad Jones back in 2020. Here are our options. Go to this site and click on the red x for 2020.
    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/reshad-jones-6969/

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ ER! How many times or how many years have I tried to trade Reshad Jones?

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Let me rephrase this . . . Since I’m not the GM, I should have said how many times or how many years have I wanted the Dolphins to trade him? lol

      • canamdolphin's avatar Philip Bijeau says:

        At the risk of repeating myself (and boring you all), maintain that Reshad Jones should be a pre-June 1st cut. In that scenario, the Dolphins would carry $8 million in dead money with a $7.5 million cap savings.

        The Dolphins currently carry $12 million in dead money for MTM($5 million), Kiko($3 million), TJ Macdonald, Stills and Isaiah Prince. By 2021, it’s all gone, except $2 million more for MTM and $1.4 million total for Prince in 2021 and 2022.

        Considering the math of it, cutting Jones doesn’t significantly damage the cap. Trading Jones would probably resemble the MTM deal and create longer term dead money.

  17. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Decided I could get good player at 12 and gain another 1st round pick. Concentrated on D and OL.

    Round 1 Pick 12 (OAK): Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State (B+)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (B)
    Round 1 Pick 19 (OAK): Yetur Gross-Matos, DE/OLB, Penn State (B-)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Tyler Biadasz, C/OG, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 5: KLavon Chaisson, DE/OLB, LSU (C+)
    Round 2 Pick 24: Calvin Throckmorton, OT, Oregon (A)
    Round 3 Pick 5: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (B)
    Round 5 Pick 17: Julian Blackmon, CB, Utah (A)
    Round 6 Pick 5: Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 17: Michael Warren, RB, Cincinnati (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 31: Nick Westbrook, WR, Indiana (A)

    Second go around someone fell to me. Whooo Hoooo!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 5: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (B)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 5: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE/OLB, Penn State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 24: KLavon Chaisson, DE/OLB, LSU (B)
    Round 3 Pick 5: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (B)
    Round 5 Pick 17: Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 5: Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 17: Michael Warren, RB, Cincinnati (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 31: Gabriel Davis, WR, Central Florida (A+)

  18. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Philip – Love when “the new guy” refers to M. Fitzpatrick as MTM. Awesome!!

  19. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    A DB who fits our team:

    Sleeper Safety: Terrell Burgess, Utah

    I’ve talked about the idea of “positionless football” to my colleague and co-host Jordan Reid on the Locked On College Football podcast several times. Essentially, your linebackers have to move like safeties, your safeties have to move like cornerbacks and your cornerbacks must have inside-out flexibility. It’s just how the game is evolving, and I think Utah’s Terrell Burgess fits that mold perfectly. He can play every position in the secondary — slot and boundary cornerback as well as both safety spots. He did that this past season, and of all the safeties in Mobile next week, Burgess will immediately separate himself as the top man coverage defender of the group. The best thing going for Burgess’ draft stock is his versatility. If he can show scouts next week just that, his stock is going to rise even higher.

  20. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    We should go D and OL early then get this guy:

    Late-Round Steal: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

    Following in the footsteps of Luke Falk and Gardner Minshew, Gordon became the third consecutive WSU signal-caller to receive an invite to the Senior Bowl. Throughout time, now Mississippi State head coach Mike Leach has been able to find success with quarterbacks who maybe aren’t the most physically gifted but are able to win with quick and decisive decision making. Minshew’s name will be thrown around soon after mentioning Gordon because they come from the same system and have nearly identical traits. While Gordon may not have the moxy Minshew had, he has more arm strength and was another thrower who mastered Leach’s air raid system.

    As with most late-round targets, their competitive fire and football intelligence help them overcome many physical warts that are associated with their game. During practices, it will be easy to see the step down in traits that Gordon has, but he can help compensate that by continuing to show his accuracy, quick processing and awareness. The former Cougar quarterback is the exact type of late-round lottery ticket you take a chance on in hopes of cashing it in to reap the benefits of a low-risk high-reward investment.

    Here’s the rest about Senior bowl QB’s:

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2020-senior-bowl-preview–quarterbacks

  21. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    OD that was a Fugly game last night.. not often I stop watching before over but after It was 5-0. I decided there was better options for my time ..

    Bolts do look good and on a revenge roll

  22. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    With watching all your mock drafts ,and solely based on name recognition, I will be Most disappointed if we do not land Badass!!!

  23. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Toba — not just the draft, but free agency as well. Gonna be an upgraded and completely different team next year. Makes me feel sorry for all those guys who tried so hard on the field for us last year….. like that endless rotation of dbs back there.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      I bet a couple stick as depth or end up PS.

      As lack of physical talent that was out there, they sure played competitive and together.

  24. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Becton is a 355 pound OT, once listed at 369.
    whew
    Can he slide and step enough to pass block NFL speed rushers?

  25. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    In the first 3 rounds we need (as if we get nothing in FA)
    2 OTs
    2 RBs
    2 Edge rushers
    and a Safety

    all starters I mean

  26. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    with Etienne going back to school (Why?)
    I have Swift as my fave RB
    followed by Taylor, Dobbins, and Edwards-Hilaire.

    We need 2 of those b/c RBs get hurt a lot, and we have no NFL starting quality RBs.

  27. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Either I’m reading it funny or Gros-Matos has almost no production.
    He seems a bit light to me and worries me to become another Harris bustomatic.

  28. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    For OT I’d like 2 of these:
    Thomas
    Jackson USC
    Wills UGa
    Wirfs
    Wilson
    Adams

  29. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I’d settle for one OT and Badiasz

  30. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Off the Edge I like
    Young
    Epenesa
    Okwara
    Terrell Lewis

  31. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    at Safety
    Simmons
    Delpit
    and a sleeper from out west
    Ashtyn Davis

  32. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Naples, this is why I like OT Mekhi Becton: (from “thedraftnetwork”)

    Pass Sets – He’s smooth! Appreciate how clean his feet are. Rare ability to reach his back foot on drive catch and shows really nice cadence to not overset versus speed off the edge. Shows good awareness of angles to keep his passer secure prior to contact.

    Length/Extension – All the reach in the world. His punch and extension will uproot defenders and physically uproot them a few yards at a time. Pretty awesome to watch him throw hands/create space instantly with upper body power. Plenty of length to extend and run rushers past the QB.

    Balance – Appreciate how he doesn’t fold at the waist to chase in space. He’s a bit high hipped but his dynamic lower half does well to reach and catch his momentum to prevent him from drifting. Shows good angular adjustments on the move.

    Hand Technique – His punches can be a bit wild but boy are they effective. He’s got probably the heaviest hands in the class, although Andrew Thomas’ are cleaner. If he can convert more blows to sustained hand fits, he’s going to whitewash DEs out in the run game with consistency.

    Power at POA – Awesome power. Top shelf strength throughout his entire frame and unlike most big guys at this stage, he’s got mobility to apply it in lateral or angular situations where his whole frame isn’t aligned. He’s terrific at the point of attack to create space.

    Football IQ – He gets away with some overly ambitious punches due to his raw power and his sense of continuing to work up the field for work versus stopping to peel eyes back and look for where to go can improve. But the arrow here is pointing firmly up. Strong development in 2019.

    Functional Athleticism – Folks this big aren’t supposed to move this well. He’s so fluid for a big man and as a result he’ll gear down and pick off scraping LBs with ease. Have seen him work cutoff on a 1T from the backside — which is insane. The redirectional ability he displays is good for anyone.

    Anchor Ability – Strong as an ox. He’s so naturally strong and with the reach he has, he rarely gives up his chest and allows bodies into his frame. Even when he does, core strength and lower body power eat up most comers and he shows a good late anchor.

    Flexibility – Rare mobility through his hips and shows plenty of hinge laterally to play with forcible power on turnout blocks and when looking to long-arm edge setters out from a gap. He’s got good range of motion through his hips on pass sets to play with sufficient cadence.

    Competitive Toughness – Love his effort level. He’s working the backside with assertiveness, he’s getting out onto the second level and effectively breaking down linebackers and sticking on them. He’s absolutely nasty in the trenches if you keep him in tight to the LOS.

    Best Trait – Power at POA

    Worst Trait – Punch Placement Consistency

    Best Film – Syracuse (2019)

    Worst Film – Boston College (2019)

    Red Flags – Maintaining weight

    Summary – Mekhi Becton projects as a starting left tackle at the NFL level — and a damn good one. Becton has all the length and functional power in the world, pairing it with a rare blend of flexibility and size. Becton is a brawler in the run game and his pure size overwhelms many pass rushers off the edge. There are still some technique consistencies to still be ironed out but generally speaking the ceiling here is sky high and there’s a foundation that should allow early production at LT.

    Updated: 12/27/2019

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      man that article makes me want to take in the third as you say
      esp. if he can play RT and we get a more traditional (high first round, blue chip, can’t miss LT) in the first round.

  33. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I find myself scrolling to the top to look at the pic of Zach flying through the air. He looks like a freaking superhero! It’s hulk like, if you don’t mind me saying, Ken.

  34. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Here’s why i prefer Epenesa (with thanks to BBM for posting this)

    “The Bill Belichick disciples are going to love A.J. Epenesa. He’s long, heavy-handed and has all the power in the world to defend the run and compromise the width of the pocket as a pass rusher. ”

    WE HAVE A BILL B, disciple and are playing that defense now without anybody talented enough to play DE the way it is designed in that scheme. Epenesa could step right in and do it right.

    The worst thing about our pass rush this past year is those guys were also terrible at setting the edge. Although as the year wore on, Flo taught them so well they got better. Just think if he started teaching a guy with actual talent!!!!

  35. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    have not considered this guy yet
    #26
    Dolphins
    Zack Baun
    EDGE, Wisconsin
    I promised myself I was going to get Zack Baun in the first round of this mock. It’s a worthy endeavor because Baun has the potential to be a first-round player after he dominates the Senior Bowl and shreds the NFL combine. His process is going to be as fun to watch as his film.

    Baun’s biggest concern from a film perspective is his permanent deployment: Can he be a full-time pass-rusher? Does he need to be a stand-up SAM with coverage responsibilities? Under Brian Flores, he can take on the Kyle Van Noy role that allows him to do a little bit of everything, as the situation demands it.

    by Solak

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Naples, thanks and very interesting! Thedraftnetwork says about the samething on Baun:

      Most Talented: Zack Baun, Wisconsin

      Wisconsin hybrid linebacker Zack Baun is going to be the headliner name in this group — and rightfully so. He projects well as both an edge rusher and an off-ball defender, and I expect the coaching staff in Mobile to use him all over the field like a chess piece. If I had to put money on the prospect who rises the most from this event, my pick would be Baun. Versatility is king in today’s NFL. Look no further than former Joe Schobert, a former Badger who is now a Pro Bowl player for the Cleveland Browns. In 2015, he played the same exact role Baun played; but if he were drafted 10-15 years ago, he would’ve been labeled as a tweener. If Baun stands out in both the pass rush and coverage one-on-one drills, you can be sure he will be the talk of the town next week and every first-round mock until April will have his name in it.

      The rest here:

      https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2020-senior-bowl-preview-linebackers

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Most talented regaeding Senior bowl players.

  36. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I think LB Zack Baun and Safety Terrell Burgess, Utah are 2 versatile players we will look at.

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Should be fun seeing who we target in the offseason, it’s going to be a lot. About half a roster.

  38. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  39. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I’ve read up on Baun, and he’s ok, but I don’t think we need another guy like that. We already have beigel and van Ginkel. Baun seems redundant to them.

    We need a DE type edge who tosses TEs away like sticks and rushes the QB with potential for pain so nobody stands in on him to take the hit or shakes him off.

    That would be Epenesa. He can set the edge and he weighs 280. No RB can run over that.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think Espenesa would play 5 technique DE in our 3-4 fronts and 3 technique on our 4-3 fronts

      I don’t think he would play OLB for us

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        totally agree, but that spot was the weakest on our defense.
        We have Baker, van Ginkel, and Biegel for OLBs..

        We had the worst edge-setting run-stoppers in the league.
        Epenesa is great at that. Plus he can bull-rush OTs and rag-doll TEs at 280

  40. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Much as I like the nasty (and the name) of Biadasz, I wonder if he has the mobility and agility to pick off stunts in the NFL. I don’t think he can ever be a pullling guard or help out downfield.

  41. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I would be inclined to take Simmons or Epenesa or Wills at #5 and Wirfs or Becton or Edge Lewis at 18 and Swift or Taylor or Dobbins at #26.

    I think Epenesa is a perfect fit for what we want at that position. The next Dont’a Hightower type game-wrecker you can’t block. Or a Watt type DE who blows up plays.

    If I drafted Simmons, I would list him as a Safety to neutralize the new breed TEs and cover RBs in the passing game. He’s a nouveau Zach Thomas, all over the field.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If he was the next Watt I would be selecting him at 5

      But I think Espenesa May be a tier lower than Watt

      He’s still a very good player. Derrick Brown May be better though

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        Derrick Brown is an interior DL … a DT, not an edge player. He’s 320 and has very little lateral speed in space. Great player, but I’d like to live with our DTs as is another year. It’s out at true DE where we suck. If Godchaux needs an upgrade where he becomes th rotational and we get a blue chip Aaron Donald in 2021 draft, then fine.

        That’s how I feel about QB and WR also and CB if X stays out of jail.

  42. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If we don’t get a “edge” defender early
    Keep your eye on Michigan State’s Kenny Willekes

    I really think he’s the type of player who can have an immediate impact as a 3-4 OLB type

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      love the person, the motor, the desire, but doesn’t have the power to compensate for lack of bend and slice and doesn’t have the quicks and twisty torso to compensate for lack of upper body strength.

      Half the OTs can beat him one way, and the other half can beat him the other way.

      To me he will never be a starter, as in no chance at the pro-bowl.

      We need an edge rusher with a ceiling in double digit sacks. Willekes has a dependable floor, as he will never outright bust, but he also has a low ceiling.

  43. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Watt was not all that in college. But came from the same type program.

    He really blossomed in the pros, but the way he played to be DPOY was asking for rip and tear injuries. That type of not protecting your body is a recipe for a short career.

    Epenesa plays more under control. Granted he will never be DPOY, but he will give you 8-10 years of winning football, especially in the defense that Flores runs. There is an actual position with his name on it in the Bellichick alignment.

    The Houston coach plays it that way, too, which is why I chose Watt as my comp for Epenesa.
    Tall, able to carry 280-290 no problem, heavy hands, great length to assist on tackles with the DT and ideal height to bat down passes or at least to influence throwing lanes if not.

    Watt flourished and was a better pro than college player. I predict the same for epenesa if he gets in a similar system. OURS. I would take him at 5 and pray.

  44. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  45. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Chiefs 35 titans 20
    Packers 31 49ers 17

  46. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I don’t think If the Chiefs score 35 or more that the Titans will score 20 or more points. If that happens it will have taken Tennessee out of their usual MO which would mean for the most scrapping the run game with play action and if that happens I think Tennessee unravels and the Chiefs get some turnovers and win big.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Unless of course the Titans have the lead for a while and the Chiefs come back like they did against the Texans. That’s the only scenario where I see them scoring that much while the Chiefs still put up 35 or more.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I hear you but
      The path to the chiefs winning is to score points early and take Henry out of the game

      Look to them to try to build a big lead early and not look back

      If the titans are able to hold the chiefs to the 20s, I think the titans have a good shot at winning

      Maybe it happens but I’m going with my prediction that the chiefs get in top
      Early and don’t look back and the titans have to play catch up

  47. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Go Tannehill

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      ^^^^^
      Wearing Jersey today just to have some rooting interest outside of rooting AGAINST the Packers.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I’m going wear my Tannehill jersey just to see you both disappointed

        🐷😛

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Lol, but doesn’t that work only for CURRENT Dolphins players? Might have the opposite affect now, instead of a curse, might be good luck 😉

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Heck yeah we should root for Tanny.

      From the link wyoming posted earlier: “In all, the QB made $10.25 million this year — $5 million from the Dolphins, $5.25 million from Tennessee.”

      We’re paying for half his performance. Might as well be money well spent. 🙂

      • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

        👍👍I was gonna save that nugget for when he is playing Superbowl in Miami 😊

        Heart
        Titans 31-27
        GB 24-21

        Head
        KC 35-16
        9ers- 31-17

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        I like the way you think

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Toba — if GB wins be real Canadian polite about it…. big day for your better half.

        Ken — Titans should be hoping we paid for the 1st half. The 2nd ones never worked out too well for us with Tanny. 🙂

  48. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Frisco has too much defense, don’t they? Those DEs.
    SF 24 GB 17
    KC can’t stop Henry either, but no one can stop Mahomes.
    Titans jump out early.but can’t stop the comeback.
    KC 31 Tenn 17
    unless Tannehill mounts a comeback of his own.
    Then it’s Tennessee 27 KC 24.

  49. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    To a, you and I are in similar position for the NFC game today, but on opposite sides of the rooting interest.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      “Toba” not “to a”

      • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

        I understand your feelings 😊

        Stanger : she is well aware I still hold a grudge against her team..

        Not so much I want Packers to win as much as I want SF to lose

        As for AFC I will be happy and cheering for whoever advances …
        headed to Cabo Wednesday, land back home Saturday before SB , just in time to get party prepped..

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        I am the same, but opposite, pulling for Packers to lose more than 49ers to win.

  50. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Hey Stanger I am going to have to plan a trip to FT Lauderdale for Daniel to see Nova Southeast University. I will look you up when I am down there

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Most cool. More than willing to offer whatever advice I can. Nova is about of my hit zone but might have something.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Nice school. We went by it on the inter coastal tour and it’s a really good school. Daniel wants to go somewhere warm I think it is right up his alley

  51. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    I guess whoever wins the toss will take the ball.

    KC to get up early

    Tenn to start killing clock

  52. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I don’t see either team putting up 30+ in that KC weather unless there is a ST or defensive score.

    Way to go Sailor on the anthem!!!

  53. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Titans will win

  54. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Good start by the Titans D

  55. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Run doesn’t count 😊

  56. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Boy that was well esigned

  57. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This isn’t going how I had hoped

  58. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Andy Reid has never seen a defense that he lIked.

  59. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Let’s go Mahomes!

  60. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    So that commercial about Corey Jones left a lot out. Jones broke down on an entrance ramp to I95 in an area where car jacking are common. When the cop (a rookie) approached him, Jones pulled a handgun on him. The gun was legal and Jones had a carry permit. Probably thought he was being jacked. Cop yelled at him to put it down, Jones didn’t. Cop shot him.

  61. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Let’s go!

    Just 28 more points!

  62. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy may be right. Titans may score 38.

  63. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    This Titans team is fun to watch

  64. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Excellent game showing 2 different styles. Fun to watch.

  65. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Starting to look like a shootout guys….don’t expect me not to rub your snouts in it….I oinking will snort about it all day

  66. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Wow what a run

  67. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    What’s up Mahomes?

  68. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  69. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    OMG Mahomes is outta his mind.

  70. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    January 19, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    KC can’t stop Henry either, but no one can stop Mahomes.
    Titans jump out early.but can’t stop the comeback.
    KC 31 Tenn 17

  71. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Was it really necessary to see a naked pig dancing?

  72. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I can’t believe you guys are demanding I wear pants

    Have you forgotten everything I’ve ever said

  73. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Again

  74. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Cmon Tanne see!

  75. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    LOL Ope looked scared

  76. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tannehill learned how to do that with his nose from Lauren…..

  77. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Olivia Culpo dated Amendola.
    Now she is with Christian Mccaffrey.
    Sounds like the NFL’s version of Alyssa Milano.

  78. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Mahomes the runner is a heart-breaker for the Defense.

  79. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Tennessee should’ve thrown it against that “goal line D” or at least called a TO to make KC switch out of it.

  80. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Looking I might need to switch to a Damien Williams jersey, wish I had one. 😃

  81. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I wish we had never let Damien go.

  82. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Damean Williams plays for the Chiefs now huh?

  83. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Mahomes is too much to handle

  84. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    You’re a Hooker ?!

  85. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I thought the DB got to thr WR at the same time as the ball.

  86. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Why was that not PI? The guy did not turn around.

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy pretty much nailed the score! Good job bud!

  88. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Go Chiefs !!

  89. D's avatar D says:

    So now it’s pull for Chiefs because of Williams and we need to get Williams back? Lol

  90. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tennessee TE Anthony Firkser is from my hometown. My son went to elementary school, middle school and high school with him

  91. D's avatar D says:

    That pass is pretty much shielding which no longer is called but it’s usually called a PI these days when the defender doesn’t look back. IMO that looked like a PI because he never looked back.

  92. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Wow 35 points…where have I heard that before?

  93. D's avatar D says:

    My brother in law went to Nova, Ken. It is a good school.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Actually both he and my sister went there. Forgot about her going there. That’s where they split their degree paths and she went administration and he kept on his medical path.

  94. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This is a blowout

  95. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Piggy
    Great call on the Titans game score.

  96. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

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