Do you hear it?
(The sound of thunder crashes behind Piggy)
Piggy Kiper here. I’m just going to hide under this desk…Some of you have been looking forward to this post…others will hate it. No matter where you fall, make sure your squiggly doesn’t get burned by the storm that is coming. Experts are saying that the 2020 NFL draft is among the deepest draft for wide receiver in years.
Is it true?
A true Samurai never reveals your fate until your throat is already cut!
(the wind picks up behind Piggy)
Most Dolfans don’t view Wide Receiver as a priority, but when you look at our roster, our top receiver is DeVante Parker, a guy who only recently blossomed – can he keep it up? After Parker it’s Preston Williams, who has the look of a great find, but who is still unproven. Then there is Albert Wilson, the focal point of the 2018 Gase offense, who may be on his way out. So there is a lot of uncertainty at the position coming into 2020. I don’t think Dolfans should rule out the possibility of a high pick on a wide receiver. But even if the Dolphins don’t do that, the Dolphins probably will spend a day 3 pick on a wide put.
But this list isn’t for Day 3 Wideouts – It for Samurai!
So let’s look at these Samurai….but be very careful…they are dangerous…
(A tornado swirls behind Piggy)
Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
With 159 receptions, 2,742 career yards and 26 career touchdowns in three years at Powerhouse Alabama, no one is overlooking this Samurai. Jeudy may be the first receiver off the board. Jeudy may be Odell Beckham, Jr. without the baggage. He’s physically gifted with incredible speed and agility. Jeudy made a lot of downfield plays during his time with Alabama and although he is fast, it wasn’t his speed that lead to a lot of those downfield plays, it was his technique. Jeudy is polished, talented and ready to go. I expect to see success early for Jeudy in the NFL. Jeudy is this year’s tornado of talent.
(lightning strikes the ground Piggy)
Henry Ruggs III, Alabama
As usual, Alabama was loaded in 2019. One position that was notable was wide receiver, where play after play, they had receivers making plays down field. In Ruggs’ case his speed really standouts. Ruggs ran a blistering 4.27 at the combine. That is what this Samurai is – FAST. If you want a guy to run downfield, pick Ruggs. Ruggs averaged 18.7 yards a catch in 2019. DBs better have a plan for this kind of speed in the NFL. One notable negative about this Samurai I don’t want to say to loud (Piggy whispers ducking from a swinging katana) his numbers dropped off a bit after the Tua injury. But he still runs like lightning and will be a real asset to any offense.
(the Earth quakes below Piggy)
Laviska Shenault, Jr., Colorado
This athletic beast is among the most physical samurai in the draft. His thick, chiseled frame is generally unaffected by contact from DBs or LBs. Honestly, it looks like this Samurai looks for contact. Shenault can be a solid outside receiver, but I think he might be more suited to do what Dolfans have seen guys like Jarvis Landry or Rishard Matthews do for us for years. Shenault is expected to go anywhere between the late first round to the early third round. I will whisper the last part…Some people think Shenault may be too physical (a samurai arrow strikes the wall behind Piggy) and he should improve his route running ability. He is this year’s Earthquake!
(A Volcano erupts behind Piggy)
Justin Jefferson, LSU
Jefferson has good speed and he will burn you like lava, but that’s not his greatest strength. Jefferson is the best route runner among these Samurais. An top notch technician among this WR class, Jefferson provided a reliable target for first overall pick Joe Burrow. The LSU offense erupted in 2019 and you can see that in Jefferson’s stats, nearly doubling his yardage from 2018 (875 yards) to 2019 (1,540 yards). A lot of experts are saying Jefferson will not be a #1 receiver, but will make a heck of a #2. Jefferson is as reliable as a volcano, if you see one, it will probably erupt some day.
(a tsunami crashes over Piggy)
Jalen Reagor, TCU
Thanks a lot Jalen, now I’m all wet! (Piggy floats to the surface) It seems calm for a moment…too calm…all of the sudden boom…Jalen Reagor goes the distance and breaks open the game. With elite speed and an uncanny ability change direction, DBs should never get comfortable around Reagor. Think of Reagor as a poor man’s Ruggs, if there was no poverty. Speed both vertically and laterally defines this terrific talent and helped him collect 1,061 yards and 9 TDs in 2018.
(A Blizzard forms around Piggy)
CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma
Brrrrrrrrr…This one is cold. CeeDee Lamb put up great numbers at Oklahoma, not doubt those numbers were inflated by the system – but you can’t ignore what he did. Lamb looked like he was running around frozen defenders. He is so quick, they froze in place with his every move. At 6’2, 189 pounds, he has good size but what stands out about Lamb is his body control. That body control helps him make some tough catches and then quickly regain his balance and use his quickness to pack on the yards after the catch while the defenders stand around him like icicles.
(A comet crashes in front of Piggy)
Tee Higgins, Clemson
Wow! I didn’t even see that coming! I should have, given Clemson has produced some terrific Samurais over the years. Higgins is this little Piggy’s favorite samurai this year. At 6-4, 215 what you can see on the tape with Higgins is his ability to attack the ball while it’s in the air and make it his. He’s a graceful receiver who will make your toe touching catch on a ball that most receivers think is out of reach. He will enagage with CBs playing press and come up with the big catch. He’s also very shifty for a tall receiver and will certianly break tackles and get the all important YAC. Higgins compares favorably to AJ Green.
Now you know who the samurais are. Beware!
Finsmob Unleashed 
D says:
April 13, 2020 at 11:28 am
Thats exactly what my numbers said too man, we have the same numbers. I goofed on the 100k thin but im not wrong that at one point it was flattening, and then it steepened again, and now its holding, thats still not a flattening thats a linear change.
Here is what i have for april.
1st to 2nd: 213.4K 243.8k :30.4K increase
2nd to 3rd: 243.8k – 275.6K: 31.8K increase. Curve steepened.
3rd to 4th: 275.6k – 308.8K: 33.2K increase. Curve steepened.
4th to 5th: 308.8k – 337.1K: 28.3k increase. Curve flattened.
5th to 6th: 337.1K – 366.7K: 29.6K increase. Curve steepened.
6th to 7th: 366.7k – 396.2K: 29.5K increase. Curve held.
7th to 8th: 396.2k – 429.0K: 32.8K increase. Curve steepened.
8th to 9th: 429.0K – 461.4K: 32.4K increase. Curve held.
9th to 10th: 461.4K – 496.5K: 35.1K increase. Curve steepened.
10th to 11th: 496.5K – 526.4K: 29.9K increase, Curve lessened.
11th to 12th: 526.4K – 555.9K: 29.5K increase, Curve held.
How does that say its falling off? To me that says exactly what i said, its at very best holding, but there are more increases than decreases, if you throw out the top numbers the damn thing is pretty linear.
First, but does it count if its a repost?
Sorry top and bottoms numbers
BTW Steve, i took that as an insult about the me not having good numbers, and not knowing what i was talking about, i also took what you said before as directing me how to use numbers correctly. I dont know what that comment about my cap numbers was about, if that was another shade thrown my way, but either way, i dont think our numbers differ if you are saying you see certain chances and i see certain chances and those changes are pretty much represented the same way. I havent gotten to my 12th to today numbers because i sample later at night, but ill post those too later if you want to see what data i have,
Still i held off being nasty about what ya said and just tried to explain my side better, when then i fucked up big so thats on me, but still im not an idiot dude, so i hope you and i can just set this aside as a mismatch on numbers and not attack each other personally on the ability to analyze them, i really wasn’t trying to when i posted that and i think it was just bad wording on my part to sound like i was “splaining” something to you. Again, no harm no fould, i read what you wrote wrong and i think you did mine as well.
I took what you said as an insult too, but let’s just leave it alone. I respect your opinion here especially on drafting players.
Tremendous WR class, the jets will appreciate it.
I think its a really big pool of late first to early second guys, i really dont see the standout like when OBJ was there, or Amari Cooper, or Watkins, etc. Still the group as a whole is VERY deep.
It’s hard to really scout WRs, because the NFL game is so different, so I hope you’re right.
I think WR’s and RB’s are the most relatable as in what ya got to work with wise. I do agree though there is a huge variance in which ones pick up the football smarts part of being a good NFL receiver. The physical ability is a 1 for 1 pretty much. In general, when i look at a WR and i make the determination i think that guy will be good in the NFL, route running is what i look at and who many different routes that player runs well. Thats a higher level WR skills that isnt just base on pure athletic ability. Thats why the Landry’s and OBJ’s and Coopers, etc pan out and the Jalen Strongs do not, or the Phillip Dorsetts do not.
Creating separation out of their breaks is a big number 2, but it comes with the crisp routes too.
These are the kinds of specifics that I really don’t follow, and why I look to you for info, just like Randy brings for the lines.
Odd to see that percentage on Herbert, i knew Love was that way, its why i dont care for him much, but Herbert i though was a little bit lower than that. Maybe its because his really pretty passes are really really pretty i auto-wrote off some of the bad ones in my mind. Love to me, im shocked is that low.
Another thing i see with Love, that to me makes him more Kaepernick than Mahomes, is that he overthorws the ball a lot. Kaeprnick could drill a pass to a receiver, but that fucker couldnt throw a touch pass to save his life, and the trajectory of his passes were straight lines which is a lot easier to intercept in the NFL. Love does a lot of similar things like that.
Kaep throws an ugly ball, just never been that accurate going back to NV.
I don’t like stats like this, because they can be fit to match an agenda.
I also don’t think Herbert is the same QB we saw at Oregon. Something was off, that I can’t point my finger at, and I don’t think he’s to blame.
Like anything you have to look at the bigger picture, last year was definitely a year where he showed more issues than previously, it might have been chemistry with the receivers, it might have been a lot of things, but he had some ugly times too. I image you are probably right, because i was shocked as shit he didnt come out the year before because he looked great that year.
I really see the QB’s more like this.
Burrow and Tua are top 5 types, Herbert is a 5-10 type, and then it drops down to late first early second groups. If anyone takes Love or Eason 10-15, and me personally ill be disappointed if we dont wait until 26 if thats the guy we are after. Eason, similar discussion, in fact id be happier getting Eason instead of Love at that spot.
Now if we draft Eason, i hope the team takes that kid out back of the stadium, takes all his participation trophies away and spanks him old school. That little prissy bitch needs a good be a man talk.
I agree with your projections
I mentioned Eason a year ago so its nice to see him rise – but He shouldn’t go top 20
My only issue with him are two college situations he could have approached in a more “manly” manner, first was trying to transfer to UF because he might have to compete for the position with Fromm at UGA, and then backing out of the transfer because he wasnt going to be guaranteed the job at UF, and then after losing the job temporarily due to injury and Fromm really doing well, he transfers instead of trying to compete to get the job back. Outside of that i think he is a great, talented, QB prospect that still could use a little learnin 🙂
Just to be sure, ill ask you guys this, i know i state my opinions really boldly, because i have confidence in my research and opinions. I think them through so im pretty sold on them when i state them, buti try to take in other opinions. I have had my mind changed my mind a few times on here listening to others and thats the way i always try to be, even if im boldly stating mine. I dont wanna come off as a know it all or a judgemental person, and im sorry if i do, but if i am seen his way please say something to me, and i’m opening myself up right here for it. Just let me know so i can tune it back some, or watch how it gets said. I think with this thing with Steve and i right now, it was a very respectful come to terms, and im happy it went that way. I also play around sometimes like i am that way too, so maybe im just crossing wires, and building a bad reputation because of the type of comedy that is in me.
D,
Everyone on here states their opinions strongly. We all come off as a bunch of know-it-alls. Some of us have a mordant sense of humor, some of us are a bit more agreeable than others, but for the most part we all are confident in the things we write. You’re no different than anyone else, and you’re certainly not building a ‘bad’ reputation.That’s my opinion, so it’s true 😉
I do recall Phil Simms a number of times just gushing about Eason. He thinks he’s going to be end up being one of the better QB’s in this draft
My comparison is Cutler to a tee. The dude has everything it takes to be a great QB, but something is off mentally with him i think. Like i said, he is young, maybe he grows out of it when forced to be a pro, but sometimes it doesnt ever leave the person.
I tend to agree, but the areas I’m not strong in when evaluating a QB, he seems to have issues with.
When you can’t watch every play from a QB, it’s tough to know the intricacies of what’s actually happening. I find it almost impossible to know how a QB goes through his progressions on a given play, with the film I see.
steveccnv says:
April 13, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Kaep throws an ugly ball, just never been that accurate going back to NV.
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Yeah like i said, dont really think they are comparable except with the over throw thing. I think Kaepernick would have been better if he had worked on the release of the ball instead of just shot-putting everything to the receiver.
Its kind like with Poll/Billards, the harder you hit it, the more likely your going to be ever so slightly off and int he world of pool that means you miss the shot. In football overthrowing the ball means it might sail and if it does its really gonna sail on ya. Drew Brees had a video out not too long ago going over the release of the football, and some of it is hand eye coordination and innate to the person, but the mechanics of it he explained pretty well.
Like ya said Steve, stats are numbers they can be manipulated to fit anything, so ya bring them in with all the others and get a whole picture profile of the player. So good with the bad for Love is Mahomes to Kaepernick and if i had them on that scale he would be just past the half way mark toward Kaepernick. I think he has a better mental make up than Kaeprnick so it makes him more coach-able, so like i said first round late, good risk reward spot, early second even better.
Same thing with Eason above, i have him about dead center between Cutler and Elway. Cutler didnt get there because he couldn’t grow into a pro, Elway did.
Love is a guy I fear in Belicheat’s hands, because he can be fixed. Right now he’s the Jameis Winston in college with all those ints.
Yeah Jameis was that way too, watch him he hurls the ball. He has a little more touch than Love but i do think that Love unlike Jameis is a little smarter about his throws. Jaemis was overly cvonfidant in himself and would throw some really really sumb passes. I remember his last game against UF, we picked him like 6-7 times. Him throwing passes to a receiver that had the DB on him like a suit.
Mabwei Piggy Kiper (that’s Japanese for cool in Japanese in honor of your samurai).
I’m one of those who don’t want a wideout first round, but clad it is a deep class. Means they get picked leaving other guys for us and that we can get quality a bit lower down. Nothing wrong with strong back-ups. WRs are fragile.
We dont need to draft one in the first, there will be plenty of talentin the second even if we really want a good one to add to our group. I dont think Wilson’s job is secure, i think if they find themselves with a good selection in the second, value pick for the talent, they would take one and cut Wilson to get back the cap. I think the reason that Wilson is still on our team right now is because they are going to let the WR prospect come to them not reach for one and if it doesnt happen, well they already have Wilson, or maybe even cut Wilson and bring in a FA that gets cut after draft.
LOL!!!!!
https://twitter.com/TiaBarracini/status/1249714726180962305?s=20
Wonder if it was the person who put that up who made us laugh or so witty person willing to do vandalism that walked by. 🙂
That’s easy, don’t get all worked up dear.
The secret to happiness is to draft a franchise QB.
Another knock on Eason is the Tannehill thing, played part of a season as a starter for UGA, played part of a season at Washington. He has under 18games as a starting QB.
According to Peter King, Grier and Flores “are very much against trading the farm to move up to get Burrow.” But guess that could mean they are still willing to throw in the barn.
It doesn’t fit the, what would Bill do.
And oddly enough the evil genius has some thinking about QB to do as well.
Where’s Mims? Miami has had an interview with him. He may be the most likely to see aqua and orange.
Outside of the top 7 imo
Didnt you say the other dayvthat he could be a late 1st early 2nd?
People are creatures of habit. Last year miami traded back with the saints to gain draft capitol. They gave up their 2nd moving back and picking up a 2nd this year and also giving the cards their 2n last year acquired from the saints
In the rosen deal
It would appear that greir is more interested in gaining future draft capitol than he is giving it away as per the saints deal.
That said I would lean more towards trading back early the trading up
I’m always in for trade back, speaking of habit. This year stick at #5 though if they want Tua or Herbert. Otherwise all for it.
I want another 1st and 2nd next year. I want them to continue that philosophy. Pretty soon we will have a team loaded with early picks
And that would be the Pats way. Getting what you want would mean trading a 1st for a 2nd and 2021 1st. And a 2nd for a 3rd an 2021 2nd. I’m in.
I think last year was a setup for the future year, so the Saints trade was in the plans, but I don’t think that applies this year, but it does however fall into the belicheat drafting style, so at some point I expect us to acquire future picks, just not as early as a 2nd.
I actually think that our FO saying they wanted to draft 10 players, was going to include acquiring future picks and one round move ups.
I dont discount moving up but if they do i would think it would be in the later rnds
Yes I meant to write later rounds. At least I hope that’s when they do it.
RIP Tavaris Jackson
It really depends on how the draft unfolds with reference to what we could get in return for trading back. If a player slides and multiple teams want that player the more value the move back could bring
SF has used the trade back to next year approach in recent years with much success.
stangerx says:
April 13, 2020 at 12:49 pm
According to Peter King, Grier and Flores “are very much against trading the farm to move up to get Burrow.” But guess that could mean they are still willing to throw in the barn.
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Well the from Peter King conflicts with the what we heard Grier say in a presser easriler this year. He literally said they werent afraid to do what it took to get the guy they wanted, and that alsmot meant trading to 1, so i know what i am more likely to listen to. I do think they wouldnt let them selves be robbed, but i think within a reasonable asking price, they would for sure do it, and im sure thats kinda what ya meant with the barn comment.
Exactly what I meant by barn. But my main thought is that if other teams know what you are thinking coming into the draft then you haven’t done your job very well.
Evil Genius never had to make a move like that, he has been very fortunate in the QB department, but he has made moves like that in the past, he accumulated picks and then used them to move around in the draft, but lets not kid ourselves, with the teams he has had in the past, has he ever really needed to do much trading up in the first? It happened occasionally but he had the luxury of sitting back and just taking guys who matched his system and most of those guys weren’t 1st rounders to most anyone else.
To get to the point you are in the Belichick drafting style you have to be in the Belichick drafting situation, we have to establish a good nucleus in which we have the luxury of doing what he did. We arent there yet, and to me, this year feels like the year we will push to get there.
Belicheat likes to trade back to acquire future years picks.
ocalarob says:
April 13, 2020 at 1:51 pm
Im assuming you’re Saying we are not in the bellichick situation because he had brady?
Well where did he get Brady? I belive it was pick number 199.
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No im saying we arent in the same position Belichick was before Brady, he took Brady in the 6th because he already had a franchise QB, or did you forget about Bledsoe?
Im assuming you’re Saying we are not in the bellichick situation because he had brady?
Well where did he get Brady? I belive it was pick number 199.
We need to come out of this draft with 6 guys that will be good contributors in 2020. What we do with the rest of the picks will be for future years.
I think ne’s success had to do more with bill than tom. He just outsmarted everyone. Was it luck that some years ne skilled players didnt have many fumbles or was it due to a deflated football?
He didn’t tolerate fumbles, so either hold on or sit.
Players will fumble. Its a mathmatecal certainty. But with a deflated football it allows skilled players a better grip on the ball. The conclusion was that ne had the less fumbles per play by a huge margin than any other team.
Remember the ravens playoff game where he had a weird lineup with the tackle next to the guard deemed eligible an uncovered? The ravens coach went apeshit on the refs but it was deemed legal. Bellicheck has just been outsmarting everyone and thats why ne is successful
Watching Rosen in preseason game 2 he got sacked a couple of times then started moving around in the pocket like Fitz, not sure why that didn’t happen in the regular season, but he looked good, when given time.
Fitz looked good despite the lack of time, down the stretch.
Both fitz and rosen looked bad. I doubt it was due to their skill level. Rember when fitz got benched? Rosen couldnt do much better so fitz returned. I dont attribute that to to qbs i think its more of a lack of surrounding talent
Thats why im againstvdrafting a qb. You have to give rosen a chance behind a good team. Youre invested in him you dont quit without knowing his full potential and that #5 pick could be used on an imediate impact player vs an injury ridden guy who will sit the first year
ORob
Mims is just outside of the top 7 IMO
Really if anyone off this list is replaced its probably Reagor
but I do think the other 6 are selected before Mims
Its possible with teams like the Packers and Vikings in the late first that we might get to 8 WRs in the first round…maybe even 9….and at that point I expect to see Mims. Hamler, Pittman and Aiyuk all in consideration
I’m just guessing with who will ne the top 7
but from what I heard about Mims, teams are very interested in him and his stock is rising
Most of the guys on this list are guys that were considered top wide outs early in the college football season, so I didn’t make room for Mims or Aiyuk
I’d like to see a 1st round run of WRs, where 9 go off the board.
If we are going to trade future picks — least they should be valued well by other teams. I mean where do you think be putting our first round pick at next year? I’m guessing say #8. Obviously hope we do better than than that….. but think that a fair evaluation.
I’d say 15-20 is more like it, but hope we can get others teams to value it around 8, if we’re going to trade it.
If we’re going to trade next years picks for a QB, we should just wait for Lawrence.
Over/under from the bookies is like 5.5. And it’s all about what other teams think. But heck yeah hope we end up with the #20 pick.
Good news for Piggy, if not the rest of us:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/business/meat-plant-closures-smithfield/index.html
D says:
April 13, 2020 at 2:28 pm
ocalarob says:
April 13, 2020 at 1:51 pm
Im assuming you’re Saying we are not in the bellichick situation because he had brady?
Well where did he get Brady? I belive it was pick number 199.
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No im saying we arent in the same position Belichick was before Brady, he took Brady in the 6th because he already had a franchise QB, or did you forget about Bledsoe?
Bill inherited bledsoe. And bledsoe sucked
Guys, we arent anywhere near as close to the Patrriots we need to be to start doing the trade back strategy, you have to have your core first, so if they dont trade up for a QB, either they dont like any of them this year, or they like someone just as much they can get lower, but im not buying that will happen. Get your team established and theny ou can move up and down and side to side all ya want, those strategies dont exist on a team that is laying its foundation.
D — teams give up a lot more for current picks in exchange for future picks than they should. Been happening since man learned to use fire. Think cause every year their are coaches on the hot seat. So like the strategy.
ocalarob says:
April 13, 2020 at 2:07 pm
Thats why im againstvdrafting a qb. You have to give rosen a chance behind a good team. Youre invested in him you dont quit without knowing his full potential and that #5 pick could be used on an imediate impact player vs an injury ridden guy who will sit the first year
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That may be what happens, but it isnt the “should be” how it happens, they should do whatever they need to to get the guy they want. This is their solidifying the team year, look at FA for an example.
Again, im not pushing for them to trade up, i hate losing picks too, but it kinda makes sense that could very likely be what they do.
There is what we hope for, and i think anyone would say we hope Rosen makes us not need a QB, and we might still question if he can or cant be, but they dont question it. They know right now if thats the way they want to go, and they will do whatever based on that call. None of us know that evaluation though, we just dont.
We could alternately draft a QB, start Rosen, let him show if he is the guy, and then trade one of the two depending on how that all turns out. I dont think we are in that position either, just like with the Brady/Bledsoe thing, they had the luxury of that, so where is our Bledsoe? We dont have one.
Last year we spent a 2nd rnd pick on rosen.
How can you justify that move by using a #5 overall pick on another qb that has an injury history?
ORob….. did you want us to take Drew Brees? Not every situation is the same.
I was unsure at the time. Culpepper had some great years in minnesota and that threw everyone off including saban
Who could have been sure? I sure did want Brees though.
You justify it by admitting you made a mistake and you still dont have your guy. They know more about what he does in practice or whether the problems were the OL, etc etc than we do. You wallow in mediocrity if you just sit back let other opportunities pass by while you try to squeeze blood out of a radish.
I agree. They know all about rosen and his potential moving forward. However that doesnt mean they think hes bad and they need a qb. It could be vice versa. Only time will tell
Yeah thats kinda my point, and i 100% agree, it could be one way or the other. I just think them doing what they do, say what they think and therefore what they do they do for the best of the team.
You have 2 qbs. One is a team guy well respected as a leader and getting paid 8m.
The other was a top 10 selection that you just spent a 2nd rnd pick on and has a very team friendly contract.
Yet you are considering using your bestdraft pick and even moving up with other early picks to draft a guy that will require 30m contract and will sit the first year.
That doesnt make very good sense to me
Nakes perfect sense to me if you dont evaluate Rosen and his chance of being that guy as you do. You cant think like that man, its not necessarily true that Rosen can be that guy. Also who’s to say he sits a year, which Qb are ya locked on to? Some could start right off, but also , why not think of long term success, if you dont have to start him year one, why would you.
I think fitz will be our guy in 2020 barring injury. So any qb behind him will likely sit
Oh i agree, i think Fitrz at very minimum is our starting guy first 6 weeks or so of the season. I think a new rookie, or Rosen even will have to wait until then to supplant him. Its also for sure coming either way, i dont think at all Fitz ends the year as out starting QB.
Im leaning towards the whole year IF we are rolling, if we arent, then by the time we are eliminated statistically, we will be starting the new guy.
new guy/Rosen who is technically new too lol.
Rob, you have to have a much wider perspective than you have right now. None of the things you are settling in on are guaranteed, they aren’t even something you could with any certainty say the Phins FO feels about the situation. Its not a dumb move for them to do whatever they do. They know best, plain and simple. You may be right, im going to add that so you think in ciounter point to yours, i just dont see it so black and white like you do. I think either side makes sense knowing what they think about Rosen
. If you’re a GM of an NFL team you risk your job when making mistakes.
If we draft Tua most people will look at the rosen deal as a mistake.
Anything can happen. Im just trying to read the tea leaves as every one else here is to get a fix on whats most
Likely
I guess im rolling with it since i feel the FO and coaches did really well last year on the first step. I dont really have a side here.
I do think Rosen is the less likely scenario though, and my reasons are that 1, we didnt see much and we heard the coach talk stuff when they talked about him. Canned type answer to his progress, The proof though was the lack of him on the field to me, but i also know cohesiveness of the team was in play, and Fitz did have the teams support and he was very much a leader in many positive ways for us last year. That in itself was a reason to keep him in.
Still look at Roses contract, he has a 5th year, so he isnt against the wall, but that 5th year is an expensive one since he was drafted in the top 10. In order for us to pick up that option we HAVE to be sold on him, and since its the average of the top 5 contracts, its going to be 30+ mil for that 5th year. So either way you look at it as next year is year 3 of him being affordable, he only has a year to go after that and then he gets paid whether it is a 5th year option or extended contract.
With a new rookie, he has 4 years at a cheap rate and then the 5th year, so Flores in year 2 of the rebuild with target on getting htere by 3 puts us with a rookie deal, 6mil much better than 30+ all the way through his rebuild. If shit hasnt happened by that we are doing this all over again anmyways.
Another thing about rosen is he has great mechanics and a strong arm. Hes also a little mobile as well.
He looks to be a gifted qb when he doesnt have a lber hanging on his back
The eye test is there so it would appear drafting tua would be a luxury pick which i doubt we are in a situation to do
Your eye though, not necessarily theirs. I liked him coming out of college for us, i liked Allen best, but Rosen was pretty much second, Baker might have been about even with him for second, but he was the more attainable second. My eye test comes up pretty close to yours, or did, but there are things i have discovered about him i didnt see before. He has a kinda mopy/medicated personality it just doesn’t scream what you want to see from your starting QB, so i have kinda had to re-look at things and i dont know if he passes anymore. He is Cutlerish, and that doesn’t seem to correct itself or get better.
The fact that i dont know the guy personally i cant comment on whats between his ears and i dont think anyone else can without personally knowing him. Ive heard arguments from both sides of the coin so who really know his mental makeup. Im sure the coaches do
Rosen has definitely way better mechanics than chad henne.
Lol but comeon thats like comparing something to a turd, lol Doesnt do Rosen much credit for that.
Trying to establish a floor and where rosen ranks to that.
Also chad henne went on to start for the jags and made millions being in the nfl for quite a long time
Rosen has good footwork
Also, did the rookie contracts also go up with the new CBA? it use to be like 5 mil a year before.
I think if tua goes 5 he will get 30m over 4 years. Rosen got 21 2 years ago and he was taken higher
Yeah i mean thats what i was trying to figure out, the contract without signing bonuses was 21-22 over for top guy, why is it 30 over 4 now, is that the new CBA or does it go up each year with the salary cap?
Nfl rookie pay scale. If tua is drafted 5 he will make 29,214,446 over 4 years with a 19,266,869 signing bonus
Rosen was the 10th pick, but yeah it does go up each year D.
Here’s another stat sort of thing that I hate mentioned about Rosen, we gave up a 2nd for him. Technically yes, but not our 2nd, we traded our 2nd for a 2020 2nd and a 2019 move back 2nd, and some other later round picks. We really paid very little for him, like a 4th.
I disagree. We gave up a 2nd because we could’ve chosen a 2nd rnd talent with that pick.
ocalarob says:
April 13, 2020 at 3:23 pm
The fact that i dont know the guy personally i cant comment on whats between his ears and i dont think anyone else can without personally knowing him. Ive heard arguments from both sides of the coin so who really know his mental makeup. Im sure the coaches do
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True, just part of the “eyeball test” from my perspective, but you are 100% correct.
I hate these yahoos around here, just trashy ass people.
This man and lady, who was hideous looking, my guess is meth head since she was so skinny and looked 100 when she is probably 40. She and her guy friend, maybe husband, who knows. were at the same general store i was, when i was grabbing some quick stuff like milk. For you floridians, if this were in Florida, they would have both been in hand cut jorts. and a muscle shirt. Anyways, they get behind me in line, they walk right up on me and i kinda looked back at them and the woman piped up “oh yeah we are suuuuposed to be 6ft away.” I was thinking to myself you damn right bitch. So they back up and then we move up and they do it a-fucking-gain. I look back again, and she was like “i think we are supposed to use these lines for where we stand, but this guy moved in front of us so, who cares”.
I kept it together but i wanted to punch them but they were so god damn filthy, looked and smelled like they had had their weekly bath yet, looked and smelled like they just smoked one of the 5 packs of cigs they usually smoke a day. Not to mention the fucking guy is back there coughing, and im like now is that Corona or is that the lung cancer thats gonna take him soon? For fucks sake, 1 who goes out in public that fucking nasty, and why the fuck are you crowding me when you, out loud, are professing to know the fucking rules.
I was in Walmart a couple of weeks ago and some lady crowded me to grab something off the shelf and I inadvertently said something, not sure she heard me, but yeah WTF?
Things coronavirus has taught me…….
Who knew i loved toast with butter so much!
And how stupid people are.
Was already thoroughly convinced of that lol
One good thing about this virus and the transmission of it is people are more aware of preventing virus spread now and in the future it may eliminate viruses such as the flu
Lol, you must have different people in your area.
Im with you on that, i dont think anything but cleansing of the gene pool is going to make it better in my area.
Yeah and i bet a lot of things change for people as far as staying at home and doing things digitally now, like i bet companies are right now seeing the benefits of work from home when they watch their power bills drop off and they start doing the math on the liability insurance they have to have for people on the premises, and how many productive days they will get out of someone when they dont have a wreck coming in to work, or have someone get sick and make the rest of the group sick, etc.
I bet its creating some agoraphobics too lol
Im convinced thats how some of this shit is going down, those filthy fuckers are getting it because they are not obeying the rules, then they go visit momma in the nursing hom and aunt jeter down in the trailer park, who always has to make her round gossiping to the rest of the trailerites. before too long, BAM all of WV is infected….better watch out Herd.
It’s not just the filthy fuckers, it’s ignorant people of all walks of life.
Well im gonna blame the filthy ones because they obviously look m ore infectious lol
In China people are scared of the govt, so they do as ordered, here people are like, you can’t tell me what to do.
Yeah, like i said a while back, you wanna blame the government, then the government has to be full in control, and Americans dont like that shit one bit. If they declared martial law and used military force to prevent people from leaving thats the government controlling it and it would have been over in 2 weeks.
NY was under 1/3 of the total cases in the US, and now is over 1/3. I hope you NY/NJ types are staying safe.
D – Did you see my email?
Yes i did and yes i think i could do that. When ya need it by?
I think we should probably talk about how we want to do it first. I’d like to get in a few days before the draft
Unless you want to do your own thing. That’s fine too. I’m good either way, just thought it might be fun to do an article together
So I take it D and steveccnv don’t think people are following Covid protocols well enough. Have actually been impressed by how well people are in my area. Except when you get in the grocery store. Maybe that is when all bets are off.
I think the people I have observed while out have been pretty darn good. When waiting in line to get into the supermarket, everyone kept 6 feet away. In the supermarket, everyone seemed mindful and definitely respectful about keeping distances. I was impressed.
Hard to stay 6 feet away in the supermarket. Get why some are turning aisles one-way. Not in mine yet though.
Smart
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/nfl-will-hold-mock-draft-help-familiarize-teams-virtual-format
That’s a great idea
This format will definitely add another level of interest to the broadcast.
After reawatching our last 6 games of ’19, it’s hard not to be impressed with how well our offense played with no effing running game.
Nice!
pick #56 ?? That is very doable I think.
As far as “reopening” the country to try and get back to normal, I think governors need to assess that county by county. There are, at least, 17 of 67 counties in Florida who have 8 or fewer cases and a handful with only 1. I looked it up cause my scalloping trip comes up in 2 months. I checked that county and, as of today, they only had 1 person test positive so far and they have recovered. My home state of Indiana has 28 counties with 10 or fewer cases.
That is 45 counties in just 2 states with 10 or fewer cases. That is a lot of people who can get back to work. Keep doing what we are doing for the rest of the month then let those rural counties get back to somewhat normal. There will have to be some restrictions on people who might be employed in a different county from where they live.
I agree. NYC and a few other places were hit really hard but most of the country wasn’t and doesn’t have those kinds of crowds. It would be nice to get back to normal in areas that weren’t very affected.
So my daughter is a manager of the clothing department in one of the 2 large Supermarket chains we have up here..
March 31st they scheduled a walk of her department, so she was to have it all Merched out and all pretty set up for inspection… they do the walk, give her a great Pass on the set up.. then tell her.. okay tear it down we are closing the department to make room for home delivery staging….
she is now directing traffic in the line ups to keep the distancing.. she is UBER paranoid of passing anything on to us, so she has popped by to drop off a few odd orders, and on the weekend brought us a care package of TP, and tomato soup.. she calls form street, drops it on step and runs like hell so we don’t get close to her..
the stores seem to be doing a really good job efficiently limiting people in and out .. we went shopping Saturday and including the wait to get in were done inside an hour , which is faster than when “Normal”..
can still buy most everything , with the exception of TP and canned goods …
being tin transportation, and being mainly a food carrier, its business and work as usual for myself, the wife is working from home… she is going stir crazy due to lack of human interaction.. I had to take her for walk yesterday lol..
“on the weekend brought us a care package of TP, and tomato soup”…… TP is the greatest expression of love there is these days. Nice daughter.
she really is.. the wife has “her Brand” of tp.. daughter made sure that she got it right..
Manitoba Covid #’s..
Confirmed 226
Recovered 92
Deaths 4
What % of the population? Any idea?
if my math is correct well less than 1% 1,331,960 population..
of the 1.3 Mil provincial , between 750K-1 Mil in Winnipeg ..
NFL to hold a mock draft is a good idea. I can see it now with teams not wanting to show their hands.
With the 5th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins select QB Bubba Wimbush from Dick Trickle State University.
I wear this to the grocery store and no one crowds me.
I wear this mask to the supermarket
Mike E — I just roll out of bed and hit the store with my normal look….. never had a problem.
Now that’s a good one!
I have to agree with D on most of the stuff I’ve read. I doubt we follow Belichick’s standard. This is the year to grab QB with very little impact on our overall draft and Belichick was never in this position so it’s a poor comparison. We’ll see how he replaces Brady.
I also doubt Rosen is the guy or they would have had a ton more faith in him last year. Flores didn’t even play him when we were getting curb-stomped by the Giants, Browns, and Bills. Once he sat, he SAT. He also looked terrible in that Redskins game. It’s very likely he never starts for another NFL franchise.
Rosen never had a chance with no OL or running game. A very poor lack of support to judge him on.
One thing i do is everything i eat i cook. I see lines at mcdonalds thinking these people are crazy eating there. If One person working there is a symptomatic and touching peoples food thats not good
Marion county fl apprx 90 infected with 2 deaths. 400k population
Sorry to only post C-19 stuff but I can’t discuss the draft sooooo….
Regarding the posts above about going to the grocery store, I went to the store on Saturday morning, first time I’ve gone in 3 weeks. I had been getting things delivered by my local Kroger but they were out of several things. So Saturday morning I go to Aldi. Gotta say I was very impressed. They had someone cleaning the carts at the door. Only a certain number allowed in the store at a time. No line when I got there but when I left, someone else got to go in. Marks on the floor at checkout. They had everything, especially fresh produce which is what I was there for. Plexiglass separating the cashiers from the customers. I’ll be going back there instead of the bigger stores here like Kroger or Walmart.
The Kroger I shop at here in Louisville had been doing those things you said Aldi is doing. Shopping cart wipe downs for about a month, distancing tape about 3 weeks, limiting shoppers in the store for about a week. The weird door they don’t have blows my mind; for example, I have been unable to but brown sugar for a month now. Who knew that a pandemic would require so much brown sugar consumption?
Damn autocorrect!
Has been doing
The weird things
Unable to buy
Didn’t they start Rosen early in the season? I think they definitely felt he was a guy they could move forward with. Why else do you trade a 2nd for him and start him? If I recall there was a concern about him setting his protections and making the right choices about plays. Big IF…but if that’s true….we may see a very different player in his third year. I don’t think it’s a positive that he really never got back on the field, but I also don’t think it means they’ve written him off.
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If they have soured on him, then I wonder if we see them try to package him in a trade come draft time….or if they see him as a solid backup.
Sad about Tarvaris Jackson.
Always sad to see such a young person die in the middle of his climb. Very sad.
I don’t think the team has given up on Rosen
But he may be a victim of circumstance like he was in AZ
If we draft a QB early and they can get trade value back, he becomes expendable
If not why not keep 3 QBs?
bailbondmike says:
April 13, 2020 at 5:18 pm
As far as “reopening” the country to try and get back to normal, I think governors need to assess that county by county. There are, at least, 17 of 67 counties in Florida who have 8 or fewer cases and a handful with only 1. I looked it up cause my scalloping trip comes up in 2 months. I checked that county and, as of today, they only had 1 person test positive so far and they have recovered. My home state of Indiana has 28 counties with 10 or fewer cases.
That is 45 counties in just 2 states with 10 or fewer cases. That is a lot of people who can get back to work. Keep doing what we are doing for the rest of the month then let those rural counties get back to somewhat normal. There will have to be some restrictions on people who might be employed in a different county from where they live.
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BBM dont ya go scalloping over near PSJ/Apalachicola area?
Ill just say, you guys are fortunate in your areas, we have too many people here being dumb-asses, but we also have relatively few infected at this point. I think 4 for our entire county right now. Its pretty rural though.
I don’t feel lucky in Queens
No you’re in a very populated area.
Was more directed at the people that were saying everyone is behaving in their areas lol. I dont envy you in NYC area man, thats why i keep lamenting over yall situation and telling all of you in that area to be safe, that shit is running wild up there.
I have a lifetime of avoiding BBQs under my belt
I’ll be fine
I think Rosen stays even if we draft a guy. I even hink he gets a chance to play and show if he can be the guy. If we take a guy high though, its going to be really hard for him to keep the spot. It could be an audition year though for Rosen to go and he winds up being traded, i dunno. Like i said, bunches of scenarios that are all completely viable in their own right.
Like I said the other day, people in big cities live on top of each other and NYC is a big city. It’s not easy to practice social distancing in some areas.
Keep getting QBs until you find the 1. It’s that simple to me. Who cares if people view Rosen as a mistake…keep bringing guys in. Keep looking
Ditto!!!!
Although it would nice to find “The One” sooner than later (another 20 years)! 😉
Preach it ER!
Oink and agreed 🐷
I read an article about the draft going virtual, like its a crazy concept. For fucks sake most of us have been doing that shit for years, i mean they already had a framework for it, Fantasy Football.
I’m a little surprised Josh Jones wasn’t mentioned too. Also, throw in Wilson from Georgia and you have 7 good options. If we could get a guy like Wilson for RT and get one of the other guys, we would be in pretty good shape at OT. I like the top 4 guys the best, but if we can’t get any of them at least Jackson and Jones are good options. …Even if they may have some more growing pains and take a year or so to acclimate to the NFL.
It would be nice to grab one of those first 4 OTs
But it’s a long shot one drops to 18
Barring a trade up it’s nice to know the next three (Jackson, Jones and Wilson) aren’t half bad
Between 18, 26 and 39 I hope we grab at least 1 and I wouldn’t mind 2
Oinks
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B+)
Round 1 Pick 26: Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (B-)
Round 2 Pick 7: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 24: D’Andre Swift, RB, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 6: Nick Harris, OG/C, Washington (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Julian Blackmon, FS/SS, Utah (A+)
Round 5 Pick 7: K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 8: Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 27: Khalil Davis, DT, Nebraska (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa (A+)
Round 7 Pick 32: Carter Coughlin, OLB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Levonta Taylor, CB/FS, Florida St. (A+)
Ya it’s a bit of a reach!
But I’m almost as tired of having a shitty OL as I am a QB!
I’ll take it
As would I. The most important needs met on the early picks. For the real draft I want to see some future picks acquired, like taking a 5th and 2 7ths and turning them into a 2021 4th and 2 6ths.
I don’t think you can make future trades in the mocks, but i really like this draft. We didn’t want any early picks on trade ups and didn’t take any of those lazy trash OTs at the top (excluding Thomas).
The Phin Phinatic thinks Grier will trade some of our 2020 picks for 2021 picks.
Having 14 picks would be more valuable, if the NFL had a farm system. Why don’t they?
I did hear that they might increase the size of the PS, so that’s a start. They should have a developmental league. I guess maybe teams are afraid that other teams would see their talent and steal them, but they could just change the rules on that too.
The point was to develop your own players, without fear of losing them. The PS isn’t that.
I believe the players union is responsible for this idiotic rule.
You’re a 22 yr old just out of college, you’re not good enough to make the NFL roster without some pro experience. Would you rather be in a farm system making 50K a year, plus a little more while you’re in training camp or working as an insurance agent making 30K or at Home Depot making 25K and your NFL dream is over?
ER sighting! Hope you guys are doing OK, glad to see you here.
D, we go scalloping farther east around the big bend. In Taylor County about 12 miles SW of Perry, FL in a place called Keaton Beach. Maybe about 15 miles north of Steinhatchee, FL. It’s in the middle of no where.
No matter what you do – DO NOT wrap the scallops in bacon
it ruins them
Yeah i know that area, thats my hometown area of Florida. I have been all up and down that coastline prom P’Cola all the way down through Crystal River area.
D says:
April 14, 2020 at 11:29 am
I read an article about the draft going virtual, like its a crazy concept. For fucks sake most of us have been doing that shit for years, i mean they already had a framework for it, Fantasy Football.
Piggy, these are bay scallops and basically to small to wrap in bacon. So we’re good. lol
At this point Miami has been successful in obfuscating their intentions where I am concerned. One day I feel like they are trading up for Burrow, the next They are taking any one of the four, and on the third day I feel like they are standing pat with Rosen for at least a year.
I know. I feel like I am spinning around in my desk chair.
D, I remember you saying that. So you know it’s rural as hell east of PSJ all the way around the big bend. It’s no surprise the number of virus cases are so low in those counties. It’s not going to impact our trip. We might extend our rental in Keaton Beach and stay a whole week. That should net me about 9-10 pounds of bay scallops and just a little more liver damage.
Scalloping in PSJ bay is pretty good too, have ya ever tried it there? May have changed since i last did it, its been a while.
I feel for your fingers, digging out that much meat. You should take the innerds and put them in a basket and get some blue crab while your at it
Krishna – You were right about the wet markets in the US. I had no idea.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny-california-call-for-ban-wet-markets-in-states-amid-coronavirus
I dont know how these markets operate, the FDA doesn’t allow for that stuff. You cant sell wild animal meat at all, i know this because there is a big deer hunting population here and there are places you can get them butchered for you but they nor you can sell it. They even have to have inspections based on their handling of the wild meat vs other butchered meats that isn’t wild.
They would have to be FDA sanctioned farm raised animals to be legal, so my guess is these wet markets are not legal.
Probably not. And there are very strict sanitation rules for slaughterhouses.
Yeah this seems like its a turn a blind eye type of situation, most likely its due to the ethnic nature of the meats sold there, being for a population that would feel discriminated against, since that type of stuff is in their culture to consume. PC police for the win.
I think Karras and Flowers are gonna play Guard (Karras can be backup Center as well) …
Would really like to see us draft Ruiz or Cushenberry, both of whom seem to be very good run blocking.
IF we get ‘jumped’ for both Tua and Hebert … trade back a couple spots for another pick later then…
draft one of those top 4 OT’s, use the #18, 26, 39, 56 (plus other pick for trading back to maybe trade back UP) and get, for example, 18 – Xavier McKinney (versatility!), 26 &39 – Ruiz/Cushenberry & RT in whatever order secures both … 56 could be for RB or trade up with the ‘trade back’ extra pick to trade back UP for, say, Dobbins.
As much as we are ‘desperate’ for a QB, NOT spending our current capital on that position would allow us to really rebuild the OL with a lot of studs who would allow Fins to run run run. Our DBs should also give us more ‘coverage sacks’.
That said… #5 goes QB we can still get most of the above done but without one of the top 4 OTs.
think we might target Ruiz. Cushenberry or Biadazz
Whether or not Karras plays center or not – the guy we draft may be able to play OG or center so it makes sense to take that kind of player
I actually prefer not to take a safety in the first bc I tend to like the safeties on day 2
I am kind of thinking a QB and two OTs in the first
but the board and the end of the day will control
I know I sound crazy but I don’t rule out a WR in the first based on what the board presents at 18 or 26
saw a mock that had us get Higgins with #70 LOL … I can’t imagine that would happen but it would be pretty cool.
I could see it.
Us selecting a WR just depends on us getting a good player at a good value pick. I think we could select one high or i think we could get one later. We aren’t in any need to push that position pick but it does make sense we would want one and then ditch Wilsons contract.
Rhino I have seen a few mocks with Higgins in the 2nd round – so we might get good value on some one like him
It really depends on whether there is a run on WR when you get to the middle of the first round
Its a deep draft for WR
no reason to reach push it – its really just about draft value
The only position I think we really NEED to address early is OT
Am sure a lot of you saw this, but here is who Kiper has mocked to us in the 1st and 2nd round. Gotta admit his view of our team needs are a bit different than mine. No trades so didn’t put the numbers in.
Justin Herbert (QB Oregon)
Javon Kinlaw (DT South Carolina)
Antoine Winfield, Jr. (DB Minnesota)
Robert Hunt (G Louisiana)
Michael Pittman, Jr. (WR USC)
Generally very good players on that Mock
maybe you take a RB in round 3 on that one and maybe he’s projecting Hunt at Tackle
Bc then its not so bad in terms of needs
I’m hoping 2 of our first 5 are OL , but guess shouldn’t complain about Kiper putting in a DT big ugly instead.
D, we set up an assembly line. Two guys open the scallops and scrape muscle off top shell then pass it to the next guy who uses a mini shopvac on top of a 5 gallon bucket to suck out the guts. He then passes to the last guy who scrapes it off the last shell and puts to muscle in a bowl of ice water. We can knock out everyone’s limit in less than an hour or about 2-3 bud lights. We use the guts for chum and for our bait trap.
PSJ gets a little crowded and the bay gets picked over pretty good by 6 weeks into the season. Though, I have not been there since the hurricane. That is where my fav camp ground is, Saint Joseph Peninsula State Park.
This is so stupid. How the fuck to they come up with this when they don’t even know who we’ve drafted yet?
We’re about a week away from the draft too, they couldn’t wait 10 days or more to put that shit out? Just idiotic.
Here’s some tidbits and an interesting prospect.
The NFL does have a farm system. Its called the XFL
XFL is bankrupt, out of business
They just filed for bankruptcy.
Wow I didn;t know they filed for bankruptcy
Horrible timing for them
Only way a farm type system works for the NFL is if its NFL sponsored and funded.
NFL already has a farm system and not funded by the NFL. Funded by people who pay for tickets for college games.
You know thats not the same lol. If so there wouldnt be as many unexpected failures at the NFL level.
BBM,
I was out that way this past October at 1 year anniversary of Hurrican Michael, out at Cape San Blas, on the Gulf side in a beach house there. Life still getting back to normal there but it was a great trip. I use to go to teh camp grounds at the state part a couple times a year with my family. I dont know if the scalloping has rebounded or not but i have some people i can ask for ya.
If they ever do decide to go with some kind of “minor leagues” or developmental league, they should probably make the draft 12 rounds again. If you’re going to have to field another team, you may as well pick the guys you want
32 minor league teams would be tough to do. And for sure would have to happen in the spring.
Nah man, they have to play at the same time the NFL plays. They need these guys ready to be called up to the big show, same as baseball
I can name cities in each of the states that have teams that could support a minor league team.My view of how it would work is everything for the NFL would continue the same, same deal 90 man rosters, cut down to 53, same PS and number of players on the PS, you just send down to the minors the players you want to continue to develop, without having to cut them completely loose. The minor league teams flesh out the rest of their rosters from players never picked up in UDFA, and/or street FA’s looking for a second chance. They have their own 53 man roster. They play games just like the NFL teams against othe rminor league teams, they could have their own chanpionships, etc. No way that doesnt make money. The problem is you have to get through the rough patch when it starts up, but being affiliated with another NFL team would get fans of those teams to watch, and be involved. I think its doable i just think it needs NFL money backing and its needs affiliation to get the fans
I’m skeptical, but then used to watch Triple A games when was in Richmond. For football the games could be on Sunday though. And Saturday is College. Maybe night games?
My thought was in the week, like Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Still, minor league baseball games arent televised, so it could be that you support them by going out to the game.
Don’t see it happening.
https://dolphinstalk.com/2020/04/14/adam-schein-on-how-the-dolphins-will-own-the-2020-nfl-draft/
Not a big fan of Schein but I like this particular segment
Looking forward to next year i think the qb class maybe stronger than this year.
Combine that with how bill obrien is killing the texans. The 1st rnd pick we have from them maybe very good. Along with our pick may be enough to get who we please
They did just pick up Brandin Cooks. Such a strange offseason. Trading away DeAndre Hopkins and then trading for Brandin Cooks for a 2nd RD pick. This is such a good WR draft, why do that?
They didn’t want to pay Hopkins in the $20M per year range.
O’Brian hates the Texans.
Pig statue
It’s amazingly lifelike
Tim – Cooks is getting $12M per, and I’d rather pay Hopkins $20M than pay Cooks $12M. Hopkins is a stud every single year, no matter what’s going on with that team.
I’m just saying that was the reason with Hopkins. Cooks is a different story.
With #26 i may go dobbins. You think our lack of a running game was due to the OL however mark walton did pretty good behind that make shift OL and at this point we added OL in FAcy and we may get a tackle in the draft. So it would appear the OL will be better
Only RB id take at 26 is Swift and he might go earlier than that.
We got you a bruiser back in FA, now, stop being so greedy!
Besides ORob, you really need to looke at Vaughn’s tape, because you would love that guy.