Do you hear it?
(The sound of thunder crashes behind Piggy)
Piggy Kiper here. I’m just going to hide under this desk…Some of you have been looking forward to this post…others will hate it. No matter where you fall, make sure your squiggly doesn’t get burned by the storm that is coming. Experts are saying that the 2020 NFL draft is among the deepest draft for wide receiver in years.
Is it true?
A true Samurai never reveals your fate until your throat is already cut!
(the wind picks up behind Piggy)
Most Dolfans don’t view Wide Receiver as a priority, but when you look at our roster, our top receiver is DeVante Parker, a guy who only recently blossomed – can he keep it up? After Parker it’s Preston Williams, who has the look of a great find, but who is still unproven. Then there is Albert Wilson, the focal point of the 2018 Gase offense, who may be on his way out. So there is a lot of uncertainty at the position coming into 2020. I don’t think Dolfans should rule out the possibility of a high pick on a wide receiver. But even if the Dolphins don’t do that, the Dolphins probably will spend a day 3 pick on a wide put.
But this list isn’t for Day 3 Wideouts – It for Samurai!
So let’s look at these Samurai….but be very careful…they are dangerous…
(A tornado swirls behind Piggy)
Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
With 159 receptions, 2,742 career yards and 26 career touchdowns in three years at Powerhouse Alabama, no one is overlooking this Samurai. Jeudy may be the first receiver off the board. Jeudy may be Odell Beckham, Jr. without the baggage. He’s physically gifted with incredible speed and agility. Jeudy made a lot of downfield plays during his time with Alabama and although he is fast, it wasn’t his speed that lead to a lot of those downfield plays, it was his technique. Jeudy is polished, talented and ready to go. I expect to see success early for Jeudy in the NFL. Jeudy is this year’s tornado of talent.
(lightning strikes the ground Piggy)
Henry Ruggs III, Alabama
As usual, Alabama was loaded in 2019. One position that was notable was wide receiver, where play after play, they had receivers making plays down field. In Ruggs’ case his speed really standouts. Ruggs ran a blistering 4.27 at the combine. That is what this Samurai is – FAST. If you want a guy to run downfield, pick Ruggs. Ruggs averaged 18.7 yards a catch in 2019. DBs better have a plan for this kind of speed in the NFL. One notable negative about this Samurai I don’t want to say to loud (Piggy whispers ducking from a swinging katana) his numbers dropped off a bit after the Tua injury. But he still runs like lightning and will be a real asset to any offense.
(the Earth quakes below Piggy)
Laviska Shenault, Jr., Colorado
This athletic beast is among the most physical samurai in the draft. His thick, chiseled frame is generally unaffected by contact from DBs or LBs. Honestly, it looks like this Samurai looks for contact. Shenault can be a solid outside receiver, but I think he might be more suited to do what Dolfans have seen guys like Jarvis Landry or Rishard Matthews do for us for years. Shenault is expected to go anywhere between the late first round to the early third round. I will whisper the last part…Some people think Shenault may be too physical (a samurai arrow strikes the wall behind Piggy) and he should improve his route running ability. He is this year’s Earthquake!
(A Volcano erupts behind Piggy)
Justin Jefferson, LSU
Jefferson has good speed and he will burn you like lava, but that’s not his greatest strength. Jefferson is the best route runner among these Samurais. An top notch technician among this WR class, Jefferson provided a reliable target for first overall pick Joe Burrow. The LSU offense erupted in 2019 and you can see that in Jefferson’s stats, nearly doubling his yardage from 2018 (875 yards) to 2019 (1,540 yards). A lot of experts are saying Jefferson will not be a #1 receiver, but will make a heck of a #2. Jefferson is as reliable as a volcano, if you see one, it will probably erupt some day.
(a tsunami crashes over Piggy)
Jalen Reagor, TCU
Thanks a lot Jalen, now I’m all wet! (Piggy floats to the surface) It seems calm for a moment…too calm…all of the sudden boom…Jalen Reagor goes the distance and breaks open the game. With elite speed and an uncanny ability change direction, DBs should never get comfortable around Reagor. Think of Reagor as a poor man’s Ruggs, if there was no poverty. Speed both vertically and laterally defines this terrific talent and helped him collect 1,061 yards and 9 TDs in 2018.
(A Blizzard forms around Piggy)
CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma
Brrrrrrrrr…This one is cold. CeeDee Lamb put up great numbers at Oklahoma, not doubt those numbers were inflated by the system – but you can’t ignore what he did. Lamb looked like he was running around frozen defenders. He is so quick, they froze in place with his every move. At 6’2, 189 pounds, he has good size but what stands out about Lamb is his body control. That body control helps him make some tough catches and then quickly regain his balance and use his quickness to pack on the yards after the catch while the defenders stand around him like icicles.
(A comet crashes in front of Piggy)
Tee Higgins, Clemson
Wow! I didn’t even see that coming! I should have, given Clemson has produced some terrific Samurais over the years. Higgins is this little Piggy’s favorite samurai this year. At 6-4, 215 what you can see on the tape with Higgins is his ability to attack the ball while it’s in the air and make it his. He’s a graceful receiver who will make your toe touching catch on a ball that most receivers think is out of reach. He will enagage with CBs playing press and come up with the big catch. He’s also very shifty for a tall receiver and will certianly break tackles and get the all important YAC. Higgins compares favorably to AJ Green.
Now you know who the samurais are. Beware!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Omar on Twitter about Tua:
He’ll be one of THREE first round picks in 2020. Can’t stay healthy in the next 3 years just draft another one.
I think we should get this guy as a change of pace RB. He is a great returner. A smallish RB at 193. Would be cool to have another Grantman on the team. Speed, speed, speed!! He can break some ankles also.
ouch…. he slipped down to #516 on the CBS prospect list, and again, he looks better than that. 🙂
OMG … that was fun to watch.
D, let’s say we just pick at #5 whoever it is. I wouldn’t be surprised if we traded up from 18 and 26 to add players we feel are franchise changing players, not just taking players when we’re up and using the quantity numbers game. We don’t have to address every position this year. What we want to do is add three impact players that in a few years we have to start working on extensions because we don’t want to lose them. We’ll still be able to add some mid and late round guys to compete and hope you find a sleeper and a couple of role players. We have so many options.
I am 100% behind this. I don’t care if we only wind up taking 7 player with our 14 picks as long as the do it wisely. They can move up or down all they want as long as they get the best players.
I just don’t want to relive the DT3 or LC3 situations again. Use the capitol to move up if you are confident but don’t just play Fantasy GM.
I am definitely now all on the Herbert train
The wind is just blowing that way for Omar this week
He’s given people a hard time about Tua in the past and he’s probably watched a few clips of Herbert
He’s just trying to generate clicks…as usual
Mando is my pretty bad too
This is interesting
I read that and it happens often.
He has been on the Tua train for a few weeks and he has been bashing Herbert for a while
This isn’t exactly hating on Herbert Ken
I can’t disagree with that statement/headline.
Question posed to Omar on Twitter:
What name have you seen mocked (any of their 3 1sts) to the Dolphins would make you throw up your hands in disgust on draft night?
Omar’s response:
Justin Herbert at 5, especially if Tua is on the board.
i will do a
https://www.nflshop.com/miami-dolphins/t-36379261+z-9463779-2569157058?_s=google-ak1900nfl-team-generics&utm_campaign=NFL+Shop+-+TN+%2B+Misc%2FGKs|162843192&utm_medium=ppc&ks_id=6220_kw1897052&utm_term=miami%20dolphins%20jersey&matchtype=e&utm_source=g&target=kwd-112238712&pcrid=107105782032&adposition=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuefk-KXw6AIVBMDICh3maAnNEAAYASAAEgJGiPD_BwE
This is the NFL shop page I get when I google “Miami Dolphins Jersey”
Who’s picture is too large in the center for you guys? I am just wondering if it is a targeted thing.
It’s diverting you to a famous Jews in Sports page. Not sure why that’s happening.
What?
Tua is Jewish?
uhhhh leftie AND Jewish?
yikes
LOL Naples – The pic that comes on that link is Rosen
More Omar on Herbert:
I’ve tried over and over again to make myself like Justin Herbert the player. I can’t! I wouldn’t have drafted and invested in Josh Allen (still wouldn’t) and don’t want the second coming of him. Love the arm and athleticism. Hate the accuracy issues.
Remember: What would Omar do? Then do the opposite and all will be well
“We have an idea of who we like,” Grier said.
And later he added, “We feel good about eight or nine players” for that No. 5 overall pick.
The way I look at it is we are screwed either way. We take Tua all we will hear about is if he’ll stay healthy and if we don’t take him we’ll hear the whining and bitching for god knows how long. We can’t win either way with all this QB talk. God I hate QBs anymore. I can’t believe I’m saying that because Marino is my all time favorite.
LOL
I’m not the biggest Herbert fan but the media never have original thoughts. I’m still hearing the same drivel about Herbert everywhere that was promoted in December and countered by his coach and teammates from January-April. Listening to ESPN radio, these sports people give journalists a bad name and I thought that was impossible. Without a script, they are hollow, unfunny, unimaginative voice-boxes for their parent company.
I still don’t like what I’ve seen from Herbert for 4 years but he’s definitely a talented player and I have zero doubt at his ability to lead an offense. Media just wants another Mayfield to give them easy clicks.
U75
Omar is not alone in his opinion about Herbert. Here is an article from PFF from January.
https://www.pff.com/news/college-justin-herbert-worth-risk-first-round-2020-nfl-draft
Perhaps even more alarming is that Herbert had the most incompletions faulted to him when throwing to a receiver with open separation and on his first read. He’s been known to lock in on his first read far too quickly and far too long.
None of these young QBs are proven at the next level for all sorts of reasons. Do they have the skill to play at the NFL level, improve and mature into the position at the next level? That’s what I’m looking for.
I meant to say “None of these young QBs are proven or ready at the next level for all sorts of reasons.”
From what I know of Chan Gailey’s offense and he was our OC in the past in 2000-01, he will use spread formations but he’ll also pound the rock and utilize the talent he has. He’s multiple – different game plan for each opponent based on matchups. He has a ton of coaching experience in multiple phases on both sides of the ball and as a HC in both college and the NFL. He will be a valuable senior teacher besides Xs and Os as the OC. It seems that Flores felt O’Shea was overmatched.
When Chan was our OC, he ran the ball a LOT, back the he was known as the OC tgat always had a 1000 yrd rusher.
He replaced the vet Jim Caldwell as the senior guy who left for whatever reason.
“We have an idea of who we like,” Grier said.
And later he added, “We feel good about eight or nine players” for that No. 5 overall pick.
“This sounds like me.”
said 1.9 million Dophins fans (at least)
The way I feel about this draft and many others have said the same thing is… let’s just see how the people in power want to rebuild this team. I already see fans and media setting up to pounce if we don’t do it the way everyone thinks it should have be done which is thousands of different scenarios. LOL
Daniel Jones being drafted at #6 last year by the Giants was mocked by the majority and then everyone shut the fuck up because he played better than most thought he would.
It’s about team success, not draft grades the day after. It takes time for teams going through rebuilds or transitions. The saying “money is the root of all evil” is similar to a “lack of patience.” If you want to keep referencing the past so be it, but it’s not the same people involved. Past seasons have nothing to do with now in 2020.
I have no idea what Gailey will do here this time around, but his history is to play a fairly basic, controlled offense with simple routes and reads. Like every coordinator, he has shown a little flexibility in shaping his offenses around what he’s got, but his base is simple, basic and fairly risk adverse. An offense that does not ask the QB to make big plays all the time.
Herbert and Rosen ?
Agreed! Football is not that complicated. It’s more about execution than anything else. Everyone always says we need to see more creative play-calling. What have the Pats been doing over the last two decades that is so complicated other then a surprise play here and there? They were coached to play whatever it takes to win the game. Play spread and pass all day against this opponent, run more against the next opponent, blitz and man this opponent and a base rush and zone the next one.
I think that’s been the main thing with Belichick in NE. He doesn’t say we are this or that. They morph.
It’s OK Rock.
Miami’s had more than its share of Jewish players,
so Tua will fit right in with our team.
Sage Rosenfels and Jay Fiedler,
Rich Camarillo and Ed Newman
Lyle Alzado and Josh Rosen …
In this new world….. we scored today . Wife got us a 12-pack of Bounty double rolls. Told her she is the hunter and provider now. 🙂
Now you can order a Taco Bell Party Pack. LOL
LOL — still not sure that would worth wasting the other paper. 🙂
oops I meant Igor Olshansky … him and Lyle Alzado … I get those 2 guys mixed up.
Wish list:
Don’t trade up with #5.
Ok to take QB at 5.
No QB, take a top D player.
Trade back a few spots 4 OT.
oh and the owners
lots of Jewish men on that list —
Arthur Blank – Owner, Atlanta Falcons
Norman Braman – Owner, Philadelphia Eagles
Al Davis – Owner, Oakland Raiders
Mark Davis – Owner, Oakland Raiders
Malcolm Glazer – Owner, Tampa Buccaneers
Leon Hess – Owner, New York Jets
Gene Kline – Owner, San Diego Chargers
Robert Kraft – Owner, New England Patriots
Al Lerner – Owner, Cleveland Browns
Randy Lerner – Owner, Cleveland Browns
Jeffrey Lurie – Owner, Philadelphia Eagles
Art Modell – Owner, Baltimore Ravens
Carroll Rosenbloom – Owner, Baltimore Colts
Stephen Ross – Owner, Miami Dolphins
Dan Snyder – Owner, Washington Redskins
Bob Tisch – Owner, New York Giants
Steve Tisch – Owner, New York Giants
Sonny Werblin – Owner, New York Jets
Zygi Wilf – Owner, Minnesota Vikings
More successful business than pro athletes, that’s for sure.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ed5a96f6-6a83-4fa0-a71c-a667f6e1396d
Not 100% sure yet but this is good news for everyone, especially if you live in the south or have summer coming.
” Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believed — but had not yet proved — to be true.”
Unfortunately it’s not very sunny in the boobie bars
Well ER
You could ask a couple of folks on here why Shumer and Pelosi won’t sign the bill for more money in the PPP!
I know the answer!
I heard they were stalling cause they want to add 50 million to the bill for their PIP (Penile Implant Program). They say it will improve self-esteem among elderly men and reduce depression caused by this pandemic in our senior citizens.
I better shut up. I may be a candidate in another 15-20 years.
“Pardon the interuption” on espn changed their name to “pardon the isolation”
What is the Jewish thing all about?
Mike E started it way up above.
Sorry
too much free time
just following link after link
which is a very dangerous and worthless
way to pass the time.
I got an awesome T shirt for my birthday today. It says: “2020 The one where I celebrate my birthday in QURANTINE”
Tim,
I remember getting very tired of Gailey’s offenses, so I hope he’s changed a little. He is old school and tends to be kind of rigid in his play calling. That’s what I remember anyway. I’m not sure I’d call him multiple or real adaptable. Lots and lots of games are decided by 3 or 4 plays nowadays, and you need to be able to hit some big plays and produce chunk yards….even when you have a stout defense. If you can’t, good teams beat you. He knows how to design big plays, but will he call them every now and then?
I don’t really care anymore about the OC and some sort of special. Block the play and make a play. 🙂
Well Happy B-Day Bookman!
Happy birthday, bookman! Having another one is always better than not…even if you’re sitting on your couch. Lol
I have no problem saying this because I have had relations with lots of cultures. Hasidic Jews are not representative of most Jewish people, nor do they have a desire to assimilate and become Americans. They are a cult and a very close-minded society. Just like the fucked up Christians and Muslims. WTF is it going to take for us to realize this?
Religion will wipe out the human race like the dinosaurs got wiped out from… an asteroid, or… was it G-d?
Happy Birthday Bookman!
Tim, I was joking about the link that Rock put up. It led to a picture of Josh Rosen so I made a joke that it diverted to a site of famous Jewish athletes like in “Airplane”
I missed that and it went beyond that. I caught up and was like everything is getting fuckin nuts. I stand by what I said though. I’m sick of the minority extreme telling the majority what to do. I’m sick of the majority extreme telling the minority what to do.
I think Tim just went Redneck!
Nah… still a north-easterner, and tired of it. Just assimilate as Americans. Enjoy the freedom. Stop being fuckin stupid!!!
Oh right… we’re still all waiting for some fuckin Messiah!!! Really? 2020 and we’re still doing this?
There is no werewolf either.
JUST WATCHED A REPLAY of the college football national championship game between Clemson and LSU on ESPN. After falling behind early, LSU came back and made mince meat out of a very good Clemson team, beating them by 17 (and declining to score ANOTHER touchdown in the last minute when they had first and goal at the Clemson 5). Joe Burrow was even more awesome than I remember him being when I watched it live in January. Can’t believe Bungels’ owner Mike Brown would be stupid enough to trade away a chance to draft Burrow!!
Also, HAPPY B’DAY BBM!!
Er. make that BOOKMAN!! Maybe I shouldn’t have had that 2nd beer!!
Thanks OD!!!
Watching Run Ricky Run. It starts out saying everyone hated him after he quit. I never felt that way, nor do I remember people here hating him.
I never hated him, just disappointed. Ricky was and will always be one of my favorites. I just wish we would have had him longer than we did.
He pissed me off when he quit!
I don’t hate him!
but I never rooted for him again!
Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes!!!
Tim, some of us believe the Messiah/Christ/Savior DID come…. just sayin.
Happy Birthday Bookman
Happy Birthday Bookman!!!
Happy Birthday Bookman.
Here’s hoping someday we go to another Fest together,
and the season results in a deep playoff run.
Also Happy Belated to Ken.
I must’ve missed that day on here.
Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes!!!
Tim, some of us believe the Messiah was already here, and is
I know, he/she must be playing golf or at Camp David. 😉
Hulk raises his mug in salute to Bookman’s birthday
Thank you to all my friends on this blog for the birthday wishes, both to those I have met and to those I will meet this fall at the Fest
Happy Birthday!
Come by the bar for a drink! Oh wait….nevermind! LOL
I will. Lol. Screw Evers! Lol
There are a few speakeasies out there. Lol
Yardbarker’s Miami Draft
5 QB Justin Herbert Senior Bowl MVP, Rose Bowl MVP
18 S X McKinney 95 tackles and 3 INTs for Alabama
26 OT Josh Jones from U Houston 6’5 319 high ceiling, moves well, needs work in pass sets
39 WR/RB Laviska Shenault 6’1, 225 w/ 4.5 speed and great YAC
56 RB Edwards-Helaire w/ 55 receptions and 1800 yards from scrimmage for #1 LSU
70-DE Josh Uche with a sack every game and a half for Michigan
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B+)
Round 1 Pick 26: Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (B-)
Round 2 Pick 7: Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (B+)
Round 2 Pick 24: J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio St. (A)
Round 3 Pick 6: Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 7: Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 8: Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 5 Pick 27: Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Khalil Davis, DT, Nebraska (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Jalen Elliott, FS, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 7 Pick 32: Carter Coughlin, OLB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Levonta Taylor, CB/FS, Florida St. (A+)
wow, those first 6 picks checked off every box beautifully. lol Ruiz in 3rd round? That was the cherry on top!!
This is basically a perfect draft.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-tua-tagovailoa-wonderlic-20200418-swoxmkth4zaplktnpxhw27khwq-story.html?outputType=amp
I don’t know why you get to take it twice but
F you have your choice between tua.herbert. simmons at 5.
Who do you take?
I know who you’re taking! LOL
Herbert
Earlier up thread Tim commented about Pats that they “morphed” based on the opponent. Agreed! And it seems like Flores is prepping to have the same approach, thus the desire to acquire as many ‘versatile’ players as possible which is certainly something that we should look for in the draft.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/news/report-tagovailoa-could-fall-dramatically-in-nfl-draft/ar-BB12NecC?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=U270DHP
A reason not to take a QB at 5, if he slides take him at 18.
Then when all is said and done the Chargers trade up to 3 and draft him.
Naples – I don’t believe for a second that the Wonderlic score will affect where Tua gets drafted for a second. I might be crazy but I also think if he’s there at #5 he’s going to be a Miami Dolphin
I did not make any comment on Tua’s low score, nor his being allowed to retake it, nor on Laura Rutledge.
However, Laura is obviously an expert.
My article that I cited was that Tua might have a similar experience to Aaron Rodgers.
I don’t see that happening, his talent is undeniable and he’s ready to go except possibly physically after the injury. He has top notch leadership qualities and knows how to play. If he comes here he doesn’t have to play this year at all which is ideal really. I could be wrong, I usually am when it comes to the draft, but if he’s there at 5 I think we take him.
Cheers Bookman!
🍺🍺🍺🍺
Marino allegedly scored low on the Wonderlic
They’ve (Dolphins coaches) probably discussed enough football with Tua to know whether he can comprehend what he sees on the field and is able to digest and understand a playbook. Tannehill didn’t even know what division we played in, so there’s that. This kid eats, drinks and sleeps football and from what I’ve seen, it really looks like he wants to be here.
I don’t put too much stock into the Wonderlic
He scored a prophetic 13
Ahhh, good one!
Tua knows how to read a defense I don’t care if he knows how to read a book
So Kaepernick just donated 100k to Corona relief, but made a stipulation not to be used for Asian or White communities. I me good for you donating but is right now a time to continue to be racist. His belief is that black and brown communities are disproportionately hit by this, so it should only go to them. I mean for fucks sake this virus don’t care about color,it doesn’t care about money it don’t care about fame. It has and will continue to kill people of all walks of life. I wish this guy would just do good and stop the separatist agenda. He wants us to hate one another by setting a divide even in a time when we REALLY don’t need that.
That’s just not the right way to handle things. It’s not like the virus is targeting blacks or hispanic people, it’s people who leave in inner cities where it’s depressed financially and over populated and a lot of the people are afraid to go to the hospital because they won’t be able to handle the bills. Fuck him, that’s such a dickbag thing to do.
Wondelic scores supposedly shoe how quickly the mind works, but it’s been proven time and again to be different in how the mind processes on the field. Reason being is learning and intelligence, etc does isn’t as innate as reactionary processing. Some can do one or the other faster and those people are generally not the same type of people. Some have both traits some have neither. Wondelic tests for one, not the other and therefore really does no good for telling you the quality of a athlete, most of which the best are the second type.
It’s kinda like the difference between a hunter gatherer and a medicine man. It’s separated the two groups since the dawn of….well since Mikey’s time.
It’s scary but eons of evolution and we still retain traits that trace back to birth of life.
I don’t have a problem with Keap “earmarking” his money! It is his!
I wish I could do the same with my taxes!!!!!
That’s the problem. What if others earmarked for white communities. Others just for Asian. It just spreads hate imo. It’s a bad precedent for right now. While I agree it’s your money do what ya want with it, I don’t think that should be a distinction on who gets helped.
Why would it spread hate?
If you Donate money to anybody you should be commended!
I don’t need Keaps money!
and it doesn’t hurt my “feelings”
Don’t get me wrong! I think Keap’s philosophy on life is whacked!
The other thing he is doing by setting up a foundation to do this is open the way for more of it. He isn’t just doing it with his money he is also encouraging others to do the same
You know what, he could have just donated the money to some inner city charity that would accomplish exactly what he wanted without being antagonistic towards Asians and Whites. He had to go out of his way to make sure that people saw that he wanted to exclude those people.
Becton will fall a bit.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-draft-top-prospect-mekhi-becton-has-drug-test-flagged-at-scouting-combine-per-report/
I honestly put him behind Jones as #6
I had him at OT4 but you are probably right.
Well in hindsight we weren’t the only team to hose this draft up!
Lots of injured OL in there!
This is smart, and addresses some concerns people here have already voiced . . .
Defense sleeper picks. I have mocked Garvin, Wilson and Tulsa CB Robinson to us a couple times. I like Robinson late 5th or 6th. He is another versatile DB who can play CB and safety. Have not heard anything about DT Washington before.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/joe-marino-s-favorite-2020-nfl-draft-sleeper-picks-at-every-defensive-position
Mike E. says:
April 18, 2020 at 11:49 am
I know who you’re taking! LOL
———
Really? Because im as confused as anyone.
Do you take Simmons? We have a plethera of good lbers however flores is a defensive coach
Do we take tua or herbert? Tuas injury process and the fact that i cant put my finger on it but herbert seems to lack some kind of intangible and with his athletic ability and strong arm why is he not the top prospect in this draft at qb?
I thought you made it pretty clear you want Simmons. I like him, I think he could be a very good player in the NFL, but It’s not as much of a need as OL, QB, EDGE etc. I have no idea which way we’re going and my track record in general with the draft has been lacking.
Im just wondering who they will take. I would assume the BPA would be Simmons. But we have more pressing needs than a swiss army knife. Infact we have one with the ne lber we signed
Brown. He seems to be a great pick at 5. Especially since we were gashed in the run game last year and again, flores is a defensive coach. However Steve has me thinking that hes lazy andceasily handled. I watched the alabama game and seen good and bad from him but really not sure
The Wonderlic scores are in.
Jake Fromm: 35
Joe Burrow: 34
Jordan Love: 27
Justin Herbert: 25
Anthony Gordon: 25
Jacob Eason: 23
James Morgan: 23
Jalen Hurts: 18
Tua Tagovailoa: 13
How about whichever QB we take gets at least a year to learn from a guy who got a 48 on his Wonderlic test (Ryan Fitzpatrick)? He could turn Tua’s 13 into a 30 before he’s done. 🙂
LMAO — did you actually have that movie in mind before you wrote the first comment?
I really think the top 3 are gone. That being burrow.young and okuda. I doubt detroit passes on okuda.
I think the giants go OT at 4.
So that leaves
1. Simmons
2. Tua
3. Herbert
4. Brown
5. One of the 3 OTs left
Boy what a putrid draft class. See above.
Not the GMs’ faults, 90% of those guys have had crummy careers.
Why putrid? I think it’s pretty solid overall. Elite talent is low but I can’t remember last class with a lot of it. Saddest part is how the college game and new NFL rules destroyed the NFL OL.
Or were you talking about the 2013 class? I agree it was putrid.
Pretty sure he meant the 2013 draft class
Grier has said he has 8 or 9 prospects at 5.
Theres 7 of them. Maybe hes including okuda and the 4th OT?
The question is. How do you rank those players considering BPA and need?
When they reach 5 and they have those players ranked with need and bpa. I would assume they take the highest rated player with need and bpa whos still left standing at 5
Stanger – no I didn’t, which was really funny
You hit lotto on that one. Was sorry to see Tua’s score though. Not the end of the world but being smart never hurt. But then Rosen got a 29.
He’s football smart, I don’t question that at all
Tua was just trying to honor Marino with his score
What a devoted Dolphin!
LOL — you got me to check. Marino got a 16.
Marino was honoring David Woodley
It’s a cycle
Don’t draft anyone who scores a LB’s number
Fitzpatrick got a 48 out of a perfect 50.
If we draft Tua, he can cheat off him…
from the mouths of Babe
New Age
yes the 2013 class.
Of course DeAndre Hopkins has been great, but most of those players have h
Yeah, I had a brain fart.
tangerx says:
April 18, 2020 at 2:43 pm
LOL — you got me to check. Marino got a 16.
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That might be my fault, i was pretty certain i remembered it being a 13, sorry not Piggys fault. Though it is still honoring his Jersey number.
I see why now, there are sources showing anything from 16 to 13, i saw a 15 too, so which is the real one lol..
I could see this to start off the draft.
1. Bengals- Burrow
2. Redskins- Young
3. Chargers- Herbert (trade up)
4. Giants- Simmons
5. Dolphins…
My thoughts:
If the Chargers trade up, it’s for a QB. I think it’s 50/50 the Giants take Simmons or a OT.
Goes down that way then we end up with Tua….. or a trade down.
Seems you can’t even believe reports of Wonderlic scores these days. Got what put out before from a legit source. But guess that goes with the “higher than reported.”
the 13 came from 2018 from what I read.
these are the scores from the combine this year.
Tua’s 13 that is
The interesting part is Chase Claypool coming to Herberts defense.
Brad Kaaya had like a 34 so that will show you the beraing of that test on a QB’s outcome.
Lamar Jackson also scored a 13. Randy Moss a 12. Dalvin Cook and Leonard Fournette 11’s. Frank Gore a 6. Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, and Jim Kelly, 15’s Terry Bradshaw and Dan Marino 16’s. So and all around them are QB’s that didnt make it, I hate the wonderlic it has no bearing on football ability.
https://twitter.com/Collins06330257/status/1251581939099881473?s=20
I think wonderlic still wouldn’t be overly useful, BUT might be more useful if they included a few other factors, like how many did they answer out of the total 50. I know i have never made it through he test in the allotted time, but i was 100% accurate in my answers, Like i normally get in low 40’s occasionally as low as upper 30’s, but other than the time i tried just blowing through it for what i considered not a real test, i didn’t finish.
i dont think i can work like that, im highly concerned with accuracy and not as much speed. Maybe that tells something abotu me like i might take a lot of sacks picking out the best receiver, maybe that says though my decision making is great and id be a good QB in some capacity, but not for all sytems. Maybe Wonderlic helps evaluate some finer things, but you have to know a lot more than just the score to make that evaluation.
How much time spend on each question, how many wrong answers were from rushing the question, how many they skipped, etc.
What the wonderlic doesn’t show is the stupid guy that will go across the middle and get hammered, time and time again, or the QB that stands in the pocket amidst the firece pass rush. The smarter you are the less likely you are to take a shot to the head.
Who
rich0322 says:
April 18, 2020 at 3:49 pm
I could see this to start off the draft.
1. Bengals- Burrow
2. Redskins- Young
3. Chargers- Herbert (trade up)
4. Giants- Simmons
5. Dolphins…
My thoughts:
If the Chargers trade up, it’s for a QB. I think it’s 50/50 the Giants take Simmons or a OT.
In this scenario, but with the Gmen going OT, so Tua, Simmins and Okudah are on the board, what di you do?
I’m almost certain the Jints go OL, either Wirfs, Wills or Thomas
Then I’m almost certain that we take Tua
I think the Giants coach is a defensive guy like our coach. …just saying, don’t count out what could be the most dynamic LB for the Giants since the best ever…
“I’ve had a few of those conversations over the last week or so. Had a few of those conversations, honestly, as far back as the combine,. And then there will be more substantive talks next week if people are interested.”
— Lion’s GM Bob Quinn on trading down from #3
YOUNG STANGER: I do remember Marino getting a 16 on the Wonderlic. That, combined with rumors of his alleged “drug issues,” caused him to fall into the later portion of Round One. I remember EXACTLY where I was at the moment they announced his pick on a local radio station. I was running a CT scan on a patient in a hospital in Palm Beach County, so I could NOT jump up and down and high-five a co-worker as I wanted to!! The “CELEBRATION” started a couple of hours later when I arrived at a local bar and met some fellow Dolfans for dinner!!!
And the Jets took whoever it was. I was like “OMG they didn’t take Marino.” Sounds like you had a good night. 🙂
How does a WR from Norte Dame know what the wonderlic scores are?
22 years ago today — the San Diego Chargers chose Ryan Leaf with the No. 2 pick in the NFL draft. A lesson in that one.
He’s such a dumbass
I thought drafting a NT/DT by day 2 was needed before this release. Doesn’t really change much imo.
It’s not a bad position to draft
By between brown, kinlaw, gallimore, blacklock, madubuike and davis there’s a lot of options and a lot of different places
I don’t think any hat was tipped by releasing Gerald Willis…wtf
I agree.
Devon Hamilton is my backup if they don’t go with a guy by pick 39.
*Davon
if okuda is there at 5 he would be a great addition!
I would take him, but I love getting as many good DBs as possible. LOL
Another story of teams unhappy with the RB they spent a high pick on
It’s never a good idea. I remember hearing ESPN promote the value of both Gurley and Dak until they sucked…ands then they blamed the GM for making bad decisions. The position is just too easy to replace.
I traded down with Jax again.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 9 (JAX): Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A-)
Round 1 Pick 18: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 20 (JAX): Xavier McKinney, SS/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 26: Zack Baun, OLB/DE, Wisconsin (B+)
Round 2 Pick 7: Lloyd Cushenberry III, C/OG, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 24: D’Andre Swift, RB, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 6: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (B+)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Antonio Gibson, WR, Memphis (A+)
Round 5 Pick 7: Rashard Lawrence, DT, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 8: Saahdiq Charles, OT/OG, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 27: Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Justin Strnad, OLB, Wake Forest (A+)
Round 7 Pick 32: Carter Coughlin, OLB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Jon Runyan, OG, Michigan (A+)
Isn’t Gibson a RB too
Did you take 3 Rbs in a row?
Gibson is a utility guy. His rushes and receptions were close to 50/50 but a good many of his rushes were kind of end arounds when was lined up in the slot. Roughly 65% of his touches came from when he was lined up in the slot. I just didn’t know who to take there. I couldn’t help myself. Gibson is a 6’0″ 228 pound WR/RB/Returner who runs a 4.39.
TBH, Piggy, only reason I use “FirstPick” anymore is when I want to try and do a draft where I make a trade. The other sites you have to pay and join to do that. Otherwise, I think their player rankings are a bit off.
Forget about the draft let’s just put this version in and call it good.
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1251654385215643648?s=21
Tua and Jeudy I love it
Reuter has us taking Herbert, OT Wills, and RB Taylor in the first.
Damn straight.
I like that too
Watching Justin Herbert and wow – his receivers didn’t do him any favors
They didn’t create separation, didn’t get open, dodnt adjust to the ball, didn’t know where the markers were and had a lot of drops
Bree land was his best receiver
And he’s just pretty good after the catch
He didn’t make the three any easier
Get Herbert some receivers that can play and protect him and he will be fine
Totally agree big difference in talent in terms of we had to work with and what Burrow and Tua had
He’s got a good OL
But the skill positions are trash at Oregon
I mean come on
https://youtu.be/vfvFe8LosDM
Gerald Willis isn’t really anything special. Has he even played? LOL
But we tipped our hand
Lol
Omar is such a doosh
LOL