RD1 Pick#5 – QB Tua Tagovailoa – Alabama
RD1 Pick#18 – OT Austin Jackson – USC
RD1 Pick#30 – DB Noah Igbinoghene – Auburn
RD#2 Pick#39 – OL Robert Hunt – Louisiana-Laffayette
RD#2 Pick#56 – DT Raekwon Davis – Alabama
RD#3 Pick#70 – S Brandon Jones – Texas
RD#4 Pick#111 – OL Solomon Kindley – Georgia
RD#5 Pick#154 – DL Jason Strowbridge – North Carolina
RD#5 Pick#164 – EDGE – Curtis Weaver – Boise State
RD#6 Pick#185 – LS Blake Ferguson – LSU
RD#7 Pick#246 – WR/QB Malcolm Perry – Navy
That’s some haul for one draft, 11 players in all, which is actually less than the 14 picks we came in with. So how, after having 14 picks, do we end up choosing only 11, and one of them is a long snapper??? OK, I’m going to let that one slide because I think they did a very good job addressing easily the biggest shortcoming of this team, our offensive line. We traded back once and up a couple of times and I believe we really upgraded the trenches significantly in this draft.
On the offensive line, Austin Jackson, the OT from USC is a young OT prospect who needs more playing time and lots of quality instruction to groom him into a premier LT, or RT, depending on where they choose to play him. At the moment, I think with the addition of the next OL we drafted with our first 2nd RD pick, Robert Hunt, who may be groomed to play RT, or may also be groomed to play RG with incumbent RT Jesse Davis remaining at RT. All that will be worked out in time. In RD 4 we added yet another OL, Solomon Kindley who figures to be an OG. We all hoped they would address the OL, and address it they did! All of a sudden, the depth looks pretty good, we have Julie’n Davenport and Austin Jackson at LT, Ereck Flowers and Solomon Kindley at LG. Ted Karras will be the starting C and I believe Michael Deiter will be potentially be worked at C as well. Either Robert Hunt or Jesse Davis will be the RG and the other one will be the RT. OG Shaq Calhoun, OG Danny Isidora and C Keaton Sutherland round out the depth. The O-line most certainly looks more promising.
We spent the #5 on a QB, so obviously that position was heavily upgraded. I don’t stress this lightly at all, there is no reason to rush Tua on the field, especially considering the current situation with COVID-19, and the fact that all football operations have been pushed back to the point where they will most likely end up being abbreviated. We have a very capable leader in Ryan Fitzpatrick for 2020 and we have a young QB coming off a devastating injury. In my mind I’d have Tua sit the entire year and heal up but have him compete in practice with Josh Rosen to help improve his play for next season or possibly a very late season appearance depending upon our playoff potential at that point. If we’re in contention, no monkey business, but if we’re out and they want to see a healthy Tua play, I’m fine with that if he’s 100%. It will be interesting to see if we carry 3 QB’s, I would almost guarantee we will, and Josh Rosen should be one of them.
Despite our numerous additions in free agency on the DL and LB with Kyle Van Noy, Shaq Lawson, Emmanuel Ogbah and Elandon Roberts, we remained vigilant in continuing to upgrade there in the draft. We started with DT Raekwon Davis from Alabama and added DE/OLB Curtis Weaver from Boise State. Curtis Weaver in the 5th RD was a WOW! pick. In 3 years at Boise St. Weaver amassed 34 sacks (13.5 last season) as well as an astounding (47.5) stops behind the line of scrimmage (19.5 TFL) in 2019. In RD 5 we added yet another DT/DE prospect in Jason Strowbridge from North Carolina who had an impressive week at the Senior Bowl. We came into free agency with a major weakness, and now after both free agency and the draft, we have so much more talent and potential. So many players we acquired are multiple fits, meaning they can play more than one position. It’s like DT/DE or DE/OLB etc etc. I don’t think one player will be utilized at only one spot, everyone moves around. Versatility is important in our scheme, and now we can employ it.
When we acquired DB Byron Jones, immediately you think what a CB tandem with both he and Xavien Howard. Flores loves his defense and in RD1 after a slight trade back, we selected at pick #30 DB Noah Igbinoghene. I feel like the designation DB should be used with all our guys because I think nearly all of them will be playing multiple roles. Igbinoghene looks to be a corner who will probably thrive in the slot or nickel corner spot, but he may also see work at safety like his veteran counterpart Bobby McCain. Igbinoghene is a very competitive player, very confident player and you need that at DB. Some people may look at the safety we drafted in RD 3, Brandon Jones from Texas as the replacement for Minkah Fitzpatrick, but I think Igbinoghene is as much a part of that if not more than Jones. Jones is a guy that likes to lay the wood so he may be a S/LB tweener, despite his somewhat smaller stature (5’11 200), which ironically was a part of Minkah Fitzpatrick’s repertoire.
Now what remains is to start working, see these guys on the field and hopefully we have enough time to evaluate these guys before the season starts to see how they fit best. I can’t wait to see Blake Ferguson snapping out there, I mean who can wait for that? Did we really draft a LS in RD 6? Was Tabor Pepper a problem last year? Confounding to say the least, but really, not sure why they treated that pick like a disposable pick. Did Grier and Flores both go to the bathroom simultaneously during that pick and did someone else accidentally make that pick? OK, I’m kidding but it was odd.
In RD5 we made a big move to upgrade our offense as I was probably ready to scream (OK, I WAS screaming already) where the F is our running back!!!!! Considering the fact that I was ready to pull the trigger on a RB late in RD 1 or in RD2, I was losing it that we hadn’t addressed that position yet in RD 5. The word came in that we traded our 1st of 3 5th RD picks (#151) for SF 49ers RB Matt Breida. That’s a great pick, or trade for a pick. Breida is the perfect change of pace for bruising RB Jordan Howard. He’s a speedy RB who can catch, but has had issues staying on the field. That’s the only caveat with him is he seems to get minor injuries that keep him out, missing 5 games in 3 seasons, which doesn’t seem like a lot, but considering that he was used sparingly his entire career, it’s a concern. Breida has eclipsed 150 carries once, in 2018, his most productive season. He has averaged over 5 yards a carry, quite the contrast from the pathetic 2.1YPC we’re used to. Breida had 814 yards in ’18, along with 3 rushing TD’s and 2 receiving TD’s on 27 receptions and an additional 261 yards receiving. He can help us on 3rd down as well as being a nice change of pace.
When we start making cuts after training camp (if there’s a training camp), it will be significantly more difficult to do so, as our depth after free agency and the draft is so much better. The edict was there, improve the trenches, and on that note, they will have at the very least tried their best to accomplish that. We needed a ray of hope that we have our franchise QB, and if we handle it correctly and don’t rush Tua onto the field in 2020, in 2021 we’ll have that. Ryan Fitzpatrick was a great leader, he has our guys believing and it’s no mistake that despite the quality of receivers in this draft that we passed to build the trenches. I didn’t really think we need a receiver anyway, I think we have a nice combo of young WR’s (Preston Williams, Isaiah Ford, DeVante Parker and Malcolm Perry) as well as some more veteran WR’s like Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson. It’s strange to me that so many Dolphins fans skip right past Allen Hurns, I think he may be the most overlooked player on the team, possibly with the exception of Charles Harris. (Who?). We picked up Navy QB Malcolm Perry with our final pick. Some here have suggested he can be our version of Julian Edelman. He has the wiggle and agility but he doesn’t have that insane short burst speed, which is the attribute that enables Edelman to get that quick separation from defenders, but he will probably be given the opportunity. For reference, Edelman’s short shuttle (20YD) was 3.92, while Perry’s is 4.31. That’s a HUGE difference, He may also be a gadget player because he can throw the ball as well.
I feel very pleased after this draft, and free agency. I don’t think as a whole, we could have done much better really. Sure, all of us would have liked to get this guy or that guy, we all have our favorites that went to other teams, but again, taking free agency and the draft together as steps I and steps II, we really crushed it!
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Is it wrong if I smirk when people say the Bills are going to jump to AFC East Division winners with the Pats obviously going through a major transition? What the Bills did the last two years is what Miami and the Jets have been doing their last two years. It doesn’t mean because you were ahead of the curve last year, it stays that way. LOL
I’m still giddy that the Phins were so mocked last year before the season started with a negative connotation – Tank for Tua, they might not even win a game. Then when we started winning we were screwing everything up. LOL
Then we still land him at #5. Now in 2020 it became Tua’s durability is in question, and it definitely is. We all know about that. It really is like Drew Brees in 2006 in a different way. But he made it a damned if you do, or damned if you don’t scenario. You have to make a choice. Based on what Miami had in draft capital and the cap they had in FA, if Tua doesn’t pan out, it does not set this team back for years. What it does… is not propel us to new heights sooner than later.
No we all our, you me everyone on here, jets fan, cheats fans…
Lol jets fan singular.
You lost me. LOL
You asked a question, and no I don’t think the Bill’s are going to win the division, although it would be really irritating, if the Cheats won again. Don’t think the jets are ready, but they could be. If we don’t win I hope it’s the Bills.
Anyone remember when these numbskulls used to use the word metriculate, announcing NFL games? Jaws says he matriculated down the field.
matriculation. Matriculation is a noun meaning admission to a group, particularly a school. Matriculation is what hopefully follows after you send in your application. … In other words, you can’t just be accepted to complete matriculation; you have to have to enroll, register, and matriculate.
No wonder they don’t use it any longer.🤔
Really depressed after reading this story
https://www.theonion.com/war-on-string-may-be-unwinnable-says-cat-general-1819587875
Depending on how Parker plays, we could add a couple weapons for Tua next year and one for sure I’d like to draft is Jaylen Waddle. He might be faster than Ruggs. Devonta Smith is another of Tuas college Wars who is kind of like Jeudy.
Y’all see Miami exercised the 5th year option on Charles Harris?
I guess they plan on keeping him this year, but an option is just that. He better bring it this year (4), if he wants to get paid. I think the team is just holding out hope that he plays better, with some talent around him.
What if we work in Josh Rosen in preseason, then try to trade him and keep Fitz for another 4 years, backup after this year? If we can’t trade Rosen, keep him for another year. The problem with keeping Rosen is after 2021 we’re going to have to pay him.
Why wouldn’t he keep playing, if he can just be the backup and work with Tua?
Phish, are you telling a fish story???????
No, fish stories are an exaggeration 😉
When we picked up Taco off waivers, we picked up his draft contract as well, so technically we have two of them up for 5th year options. I dont see that we have picked up the 5th year on either.
I couldn’t remember if we’d posted them all??
Wyo,
GREAT stats on RBs earlier up on this tread.
Regarding golf … why no stats provided? or is that ‘measurements’? lol
I’m able to comment these days cuz my wife asked me to work from home instead of from the clinic to help ration PPE (any staff members who are inside are required to wear PPE). We were stocked up for flu season anyway, so we have just enough to get through one more month.
That said, I’ve got a list of comments/questions about to get posted. 🙂
Here is a very interesting read for mid-day… it was written Feb 2019 evaluating the defense Flores ran in NE and what personnel would be required to replicate it here in Miami. A year later it might provide a nice intellectual exercise of the thinking behind FA and this past draft, as well as what to look for next off season.
https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphins/inside-the-film-room-dolphins-new-defensive-scheme/
Key phrases:
summarized as “a DB-centric, malleable defense that can be adjusted weekly” …
“will take 2 drafts / off seasons to build”
“a modern defense to play the modern offense … it’s not 3/4 or 4/3 … it can be either on any given week”
“3 safeties”
The article clarifies drafting of Igbo (I like that better than Iggy Mahogany lol) and signing Van Noy, and even the recent signing of Frazier.
I copied the “personnel requirements” to run this defense. Those of you who understand X’s and O’s lightyears better than me … maybe go through this list, assign who we have, and identify what we may still need next off season through FA or draft.
“DE: A bigger/longer player that’s likely going to be asked to play 5, 6, 7 and 9 techniques
NT: A nose tackle body type capable of playing 0, 1 (shade), 2i and 3 techniques (more 1 and 3 techniques)
DT: A true 3-technique style player who may also be asked to play 4i and 5 techniques
DE: A 3-4 OLB-esque style of player who can play 5, 6, 7, 8 (yeah, that’s a thing), and 9 techniques
OLB/LB: A player capable of playing off the ball as a WILL LB or inside in a 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 front
MLB: A player capable of playing a traditional MLB or inside in a 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 front; may play some SAM
3-4 OLB: Separate from the position above, but possibly able to be filled by the same player. Someone who can set the edge from a stand-up position like a 3-4 OLB or play as an off-the-ball SAM”
That is a lot of info, but seems to make sense as what we are doing. At least was able to get that with that offense the concept of 3-4 or 4-3 is obsolete.
I see Elandon Roberts has a role $
After watching the first half of the first jets game last night I was noticing a lot of these whack job formations on D, they mostly seemed like they were confusing themselves, but with better personnel we should see results.
Hopefully they will soon be confusing opposing QBs.
“Kristin Cavallari and former NFL player Jay Cutler announced that they are getting a divorce after 10 years of marriage.” — may be for the reality TV “star” a retired QB just wasn’t as good.
Rhino – Make no claims to knowing better than anyone else, but these are the players I believe we have that fit into those designations . . .
DE – Emmanuel Ogbah, Shaq Lawson, Christian Wilkins, Jason Strowbridge, Taco Charlton, Raekwon Davis
NT – Davon Godchaux, Raekwon Davis, Benito Jones, Ray Lima, Christian Wilkins
DT – Raekwon Davis, Christian Wilkins, Davon Godchaux, Jason Strowbridge, Taco Charlton
OLB – Kyle Van Noy, Shaq Lawson, Charles Harris, Curtis Weaver, Vince Biegel, Andrew Van Ginkel, Sam Eguavoen
MLB – Raekwon McMillan, Jerome Baker, Elandon Roberts
3-4 OLB – All of the above OLB’s
That’s my take . . .
I’ll add that Harris, Lawson, Weaver will likely get reps at DE in even fronts, like speed packages, some nickel or dime packages
Feel on figuring out the D just went from algebra to calculus ….. but guess that is the point.
Think Flores is tired of getting run over?
I really don’t think Flores rates players the same as the conventional media. He wants talent, regardless of readiness, he wants multiple position players, smart, high character, and leaders.
Traits you don’t often hear the media talk about in a package.
Going forward expect our drafts to be downgraded, until he gets the Belicheatinesque praise, then whatever he does will be genius.
Our Drafts are going to be like Billycheats (hopefully)!
A lot “Who the F@ck is that??
Then is 2 years they make the pro-bowl!
Pats drafts always got killed by the “experts” — but the Pats weren’t looking for what the other teams were. Particularly on D.
After the draft was over I was struggling to see why this draft was anything above average, then (see post above) I realized what the plan was and everything changed.
We’ve had decent success in previous seasons winning games, after being out of contention and the opposite while still in. Why? Must have something to do with pressure. From day one Flores and Ross have done nothing to put any pressure on winning. Now Flores is still saying not this year, next year will be the one.
Let the players run on self pride and watch the magic begin. Flores doesn’t come across as the asshole Mr. Cheat does 😁 either.
pheloniusphish says:
April 27, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Y’all see Miami exercised the 5th year option on Charles Harris?
Reply
No, I didn’t see this and I cannot find mention of it on line right now either. Are you sure? The last article I can find about it says they have until May 3rd to decide, but I cannot find anything that says that they have decided to sign him.
WHERE DID YOU HEAR OF IT?
PR police got that pat kicker. Kid is removing his tattoo even though it had no link to the militia group everyone is flipping out over. Fucking world has gotten nuts over this shit.
Ya, everyone was “Why didn’t he have it covered!
Do they realize how much that costs????
Why is “Liberty or Death” a white supremacy thing? Isn’t it a play on Patrick Henry’s “Give me liberty, or give me death!”?
ER
If you are out there
they refunded the PPP on Friday, so you should be able to apply again
stangerx says:
April 28, 2020 at 10:32 am
“Kristin Cavallari and former NFL player Jay Cutler announced that they are getting a divorce after 10 years of marriage.” — may be for the reality TV “star” a retired QB just wasn’t as good.
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Well he stays baked all the time and is kinda a mopey fuck and she is a high energy bitchy type, it wasnt exactly a match made in heaven anyways.
D — did you watch her show? Nothing wrong if you did, but that’s a lot of info. And not like don’t have a lot of Housewives shows under my belt. Knew Teresa would dump Joe after he got out. 🙂
Lol no, i had issues just with the name of it, “Thats so Cavallari”…..urp scuse me i just threw up a little in my mouth.
My first wife would have been on one of those shows in her biggest dream. My 2nd one likes to watch them. Filled with drama queens. Who wants their whole life on camera?
Extraverts
#10 or #16, I say #16 for Tua.
he has several other choices 1,4,6,8,9,10. i mean 5 will be open too.
5 would have significance, as would 1.
Rhino,
Your posts are the reason I keep cautioning people that this defense is not gonna turn around overnight. It is a tough scheme to learn and then also difficult to master and implement on game day. There will be a sharp learning curve for everyone coming into it. Frankly, I don’t anticipate this defense being where it wants to be for a number of years. Bringing in a guy like Van Noy will help, but it’s still gonna take some time. Should be fun to watch.
Having a shortened offseason won’t help things either. I think we’ll get better as the season goes on, but you’re right. Hopefully next season when we have a full offseason with minicamps, training camp and preseason, we’ll be more ready.
Sure it’s a difficult D, but it doesn’t have to be perfectly learned to get them playing better, the influx of talent is enough to get the D playing better. By the middle of the year they should be humming along.
The main guys are the LBs, we have several returning + Van Noy that have a pretty good understanding of it. Lawson and Ogbah should be able to figure things out good enough by the opener.
Iggy playing Nickel shouldn’t have so much to learn that he can’t get on the field.
Brandon Jones playing all over the field will likely have the most to learn in the secondary, so he’ll get worked in as he progresses through his knowledge of the D.
I just don’t see how the D won’t be vastly improved by the opener.
I would say the two main guys are the lockdown corners on the outside. That’s what they will be doing every play. Whatever happens on the inside becomes a lot more easy then.
The post was in response to Randy’s, didn’t exactly show up where I wanted it to, but it’s about learning the D and being better or not before its fully grasped.
To close out the season our D was just a bunch of street players and a few young vets. They played amazing for their talent level. I think the scheme helped tremendously.
Midseason the D seemed to be figuring things out, but lack of talent seemed to hold them back.
It was Fitz and the WRs and Gesicki that were most responsible for the wins, as they kept us in games.
Thats why some that shined on our team last year will still not make the 53 this year necessarily. They shined on a team bereft of talent, so they might not shine so bright this year when the cut-downs come.
I misinterpreted the Charles Harris 5th year option story.
Its ok, you just about started a fucking riot…..nothing big
lol
Just for a point of reference – If you go to pro-football-reference.com , if you type in the players name in the search bar, once the player comes up, if you scroll down there is a player news section. If he had re-signed, it would be there. I looked there immediately and found nothing, which led me to believe that it didn’t happen. Probably not foolproof because there might be a lag before the info is there, but it’s pretty close.
No punishment for Brady, Leftwich, and the Bucs for violating NFL rules. He was only there to pick up a playbook (and accidentally brought in a few dufflebags while making the quick stop)
Of course, can’t touch the NFL’s darling
I don’t think it will take that long for the players to learn the defense. It’s about just do your job. If each player knows what their assignment is, then it works as a whole.
Rhino, that’s good stuff about the defense. It’s that whole multiple thing. I touched on it yesterday with the personnel we’ve brought in the last two years.
Think overall it will be real complicated…… but maybe not so much in this or that set. Just that will be a lot of them.
I’m not saying it’s going to easy for them to learn all the nuances of the defense, but we have a lot more personnel that fits the scheme. The main thing we have to improve on is the pass rush and setting the edge in the run game, and I think we added some guys that should help with that.
Could not agree more on we have gotten a whole lot more talent on D. Sorta thinking we really improved the pass rush from the 2nd level and that is how the various schemes are set up. But what do I know? Just going off the Pats never really had a JJ Watts.
After watching some video on Curtis Weaver he is built pretty thick. Looks more like Shaq Lawson than a LB. But he can do a lot of things. He’s an edge rusher, he drops in coverage and shows impressive instincts and athletic ability. Could be a steal for us.
Watched about 5 plays, his last play he’s chasing the ball carrier out of the backfield, he’s really lumbering, so I went looking for his 40 time, but he didn’t run at the combine. I don’t know what his time is, but he plays very slow, like he has 2 left feet.
Wow not what I saw. LOL
The only 40 times I’ve seen from him are from NFL Draft Scout.
40 Low: 4.63 40 Time: 4.72 40 High: 4.82
He did run a 7.00 3 cone drill at the combine which is very good for a guy his size.
He might’ve run a 4.63, but his football speed is slow and slower. He can’t play LB, maybe DE.
You know the competition in the Mountain West isn’t the SEC or even the Big East.
Weaver has the speed of an NT at best, he’s horrible in pursuit and might be the worst prospect I have ever seen. I’m going to have to watch highlights, game film was really bad against FSU.
You sure you’re watching the right guy?
4.6 sounds like a fast NT. So does 4.8.
Curtis Weaver Boise State conf sack leader. His highlights are a little better, but holy shit is he slow.
As for drafting a LS in Blake Ferguson in the 6th round, it’s not just about snapping the ball. He also excels on punt coverage.
Weaver looks slow and lumbering huh?
Gee I wonder why the ALL TIME sack leader of the Mountain West would fall all the way to the 5th round.
boy what a wasted pick…..
A142 BTW
If this is slow and lumbering I’ll take it. LOL
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article242317621.html
I’ll take a look later, I can’t see the video on my phone. The Herald always has some jacked up crap running across the screen.
Steve, Weaver is an edge guy not a sideline to sideline LB. But he does drop in coverage at times, deflects passes, had two picks. He’s got good football instincts. I’m not saying his production in college will translate to the NFL at the same level, there was a reason he dropped to the 5th round, but the article I posted also gets into that. It seems his cons are he’s softly built and not great against the run.
I didn’t see anything slow and lumbering in the video you sent. In fact, many times, I was like, WTF, where did he come from. Snakey and elusive and quick, came to mind. Does he translate to the NFL? Who knows?
OD…glad to know we can agree to disagree!
But, one thing we have always agreed on is the need for an OL. Without it, all else is bullshit and poking and hoping. It looks like we’ve finally made a serious attempt to remedy this gross oversight all these years.
I hope it comes together for them, with depth, so that next year, Tua’s not killed.
He is fragile. Please do a fact check one of his ankles. I think he just fell down without being touched. I could be wrong. Wrist injuries, hip, etc. The NFL is nothing like the SEC, but at least he knows what it means to be hit hard. I agree with you on that point, too.
Krishna — if getting Tua made them beef up the OL then seems whoever our QB is will benefit. We might have 5 new starters on the line next season. And not complaining about it…… and neither will be OD. 🙂
We didn’t beef up the OL just because of Tua. It had to happen regardless of the QB.
No matter the reason…. we sure did put beef on the OL. Hoping Hunt and Kindley push DL guys around on the same side.
Krishna, that’s why I felt Steve might be looking at the wrong guy. He has a natural edge bend in his rush. Now will it be good enough at the next level we shall see. Lots of draft pundits were surprised he fell to the 5th rd. He was a projected 2nd/3rd round pick.
From what I see from his highlights and there are a lot of them, it’s a long highlight video, he reminds me of Shaq Lawson. They have similar builds. He’s not a space/sideline to sideline LB, he’s a line player.
Mike E. says:
April 28, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Just for a point of reference – If you go to pro-football-reference.com , if you type in the players name in the search bar, once the player comes up, if you scroll down there is a player news section. If he had re-signed, it would be there. I looked there immediately and found nothing, which led me to believe that it didn’t happen. Probably not foolproof because there might be a lag before the info is there, but it’s pretty close.
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Its called the internets Granpa to Father time, you ask it tells 🙂
Yes, but Pro-football-reference has all the latest transactions and news for each player, but yeah, can google it as well, wiseguy! 😉
Tim Knight says:
April 28, 2020 at 3:56 pm
After watching some video on Curtis Weaver he is built pretty thick. Looks more like Shaq Lawson than a LB. But he can do a lot of things. He’s an edge rusher, he drops in coverage and shows impressive instincts and athletic ability. Could be a steal for us.
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thats why i was saying yesterday i see him more as a DL, i mean he isnt a hybrid DE/DT, but i think he will be on the line most of the time with his hands on the ground or maybe out wide if we throw some wide 9 looks at them.
in a straight 3-4 or 4-3 system, i think he is a DE, so i think in the multiples system, he will be on the line most the time and he probably will be in pass rush packages at least starting out.
He did most of his rush from the 2-point stance but I’m sure he can do both. He’s an edge guy. Lawson did that too in Buffalo. Ogbah can do both too.
D- hope you get to meet Mike E sometime. He’s like a male fitness model…… cut and as in shape as anything. I’m an out of shape slob, but man does Mike E have it going on. Hope you make it to a Fest sometime.
I have seen 90 year old me who are still cut up, it happens.
Tim,
When you run a multiple defense you are switching guys around and doing all sorts of things to confuse the offense. Guys need to learn 3 or 4 positions. They also need to learn the adjustments required if the offense does different things from those multiple positions. It takes awhile.
I didn’t say it doesn’t. But I don’t think it will take years. You don’t have time for things to take years these days.
That said, I also don’t think it’s that complicated watching it. It’s really just a blitz/stunt scheme within typical football fundamentals. The defense knows what’s it doing based on formations, the offense does not know what everyone will be doing.
Tim, yeah thats kinda how ui see him as an Ogbah and Lawson. My guess is they will have him bulk up a little andplay that same role.
He’s already 265 and scouts say he doesn’t have a great body, but he’s a good football player.
Stanger, I think we’ve seen a switch in the kind of OL we’re bringing then in the past. We’re adding guys who can move people off the LOS so we can actually convert in short yardage situations. We’ve sucked at that in recent years.
Thinking about that story I posted yesterday about the lady in UK who is drinking her boyfriends semen to ward off covid19
I’m wondering how I should go about proposing marriage to her
Someone is horny. LOL
Did you see that link I posted yesterday?
Yes! LOL
Slow Clunky highly productive????????????????
we used to have a #54 like that!!!!!!!! 😉
But I don’t see slow and clunky at all with Weaver just like Steve doesn’t see it with Derrick Brown either. I have to admit he has me a bit miffed about his view of these two players.
The MWC may not b the SEC!
But they aren’t dregs either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, they pretty much are. You can’t look at a highlight film against the trash Weaver went against in the MW, you have to look at game tape against a real opponent.
I’ll admit, when I first watched his tape against FSU it was on my phone, so small video, then I watched Tim’s highlight video and he looked better, then I watched the FSU game again on my PC and he looked better, and not the worst prospect, but he still plays relatively slow, misses lots of tackles and doesn’t seem to know how to bend his knees.
Guess you think Preston Williams is a piece of shit too?
There’s some pretty good players on some of their teams, but as a conference its trash. I’ve seen plenty of games. Getting 13.5 sacks in the MW us like getting 5 in the SEC.
Preston William’s, I think is great, I mean WR is a tough position for a rookie, but he moved right to the top of our receiving corps.
By the way my son goes to NV.
Weaver should rarely be in coverage, unless he’s just dropping back to fill a short zone or to confuse who’s rushing.
That’s a typical Dick LeBeau zone blitz in the 90’s that was developed by Bill Arnsparger in 1971. OD should like this one, lol. Back then they didn’t call it a 3-4 when most defenses were mostly 4-3. It was called a 5-2.
Leave it to Weaver
LOL
Let’s not forget about Parker. The guy who many of us fans doubted would even be back on the team beginning of 2019. He truly showed how much our previous coachibng staff held him back, and made many of us doubt his potential.
Phinsiders
Really, because all I heard throughout mini camps, OTAs, and camp was how well Fitz and Parker were meshing. Just guessing here🤔 I would think it was RT that was holding Parker back.
I always knew Parker was talented but nagging injuries held him back. Last year that wasn’t the case and he played like A.J. Green which is who I always compared him too. It was never about lack of talent with Parker.
30 Noah Igbinoghene, CB:
I’m going to probably forever have to google his name to spell it (and pronounce it), but the Dolphins selected the top CB from the draft.
In the same article the Phinsider said this.
I think Okudah is better, but not by much, Iggy is the real deal.
Very athletic player who switched from WR to DB 2 years ago and continued to display himself as a good football player.
Strengths:
Aggressive, competitive player who plays physical against the pass and run.
Weakness:
Too grabby in coverage, still learning the defensive side of the ball.
Son of bitch
LOL
Thanks Piggy
Our application is supposedly in line from last time. I’m going to refile thru a different bank as well.
And thanks to the Lakers for giving back their money…smh. Funny part is that it doesn’t matter if these huge corps or billion dollar sport franchises return the money. It just goes back to the treasury while the funds are already allocated and don’t get added back into the package. Sweet deal…..idiots!
Big government at its finest
The lakers owner should have never applied for the money
Nope. And they’re not the only ones.
Yep. Shake Shack was using the money as down payment to secure a $180M loan for expanding….wtf.
I believe the Lakers were the only sports franchise in all of the sports world to even apply, not just basketball. Great example of classless decision, even though it was legal.
ER ..I’m not sure changing banks at this point would be your best option, but you can try. I would not drop your current “place in line” with your original application. Some of my clients that didn’t get their applications in on the first day are now seeing deposits made to their bank accounts.
Ignoring the Mayo Clinic’s policy (one the most respected health care iinstitutions on the planet) of wearing a mask, shows the disrespect and ignorance this administration/leadership continues to display with regard to this pandemic. Just fucking, blatantly ignorant and beyond stupid.
Over ONE million cases (far greater than any other country in the world) and more dead than the 19 year war in Vietnam in about 6 weeks. That’s 59,000. Perfect!
But it isn’t any worse than the common Flu 😷🙄
We only had 15 cases that soon would be zero and like a miracle would just disappear….
PPP info.
We applied with 3 institutions that we have a business relationship with, on Friday April 3rd!!
A “new” application with a “new” institution is likely the least productive. Existing applications still have their place in line. Unfortunately we have had Wells Fargo for years and they have been the slowest to step up because of their shady past. We DID get a call from an actual human being this past Friday asking us for an email to confirm the amount applied for … to serve as a verbal. And yes, we did this through their portal, not through a Nigerian account. LOL
We need to keep our staff in place because when there is a window to increase in person encounters there are A LOT of kids who need their regular vaccine schedule kept up to date. It seems there is an impression that outpatient clinics are “busy” but in reality the number of encounters is down 70%… relaxed telemedicine regulations is all that is keeping primary care afloat.
A good banking relationship seems to have been key to this process. One of my clients with Wells Fargo did get their PPP this week, just fyi
back to football….
the OL we drafted are excellent at run-blocking, which, if I understand correctly, is a skill that transfers more quickly to the NFL.
So, yes, we focused on pass coverage, but at the same time our FA and Draft SCREAM what Flores wants to do this season….
Stop the run … and Run the ball down the opponents throats. Again, “Football 101”.
It has a residual benefit of not tasking our QB to be “magic” …. and if Tua plays he is less likely to be put in vulnerable positions (yikes, do what you will with the phrase “vulnerable positions”).
… and …
after 3 years I still wouldn’t be able to recognize Charles Harris if I saw him without his helmet.
nuff’ said. Give him his “Dion Jordan Dundee” and move on. Is he ‘earning his check’ ?… serious question.
Probably earning his check as a rotational player only because he is on a rookie contract. Like Rosen, being cheap helps.
Yeah i agree, he is probably earning it currently, wont be with a bigger contract. He gets pressures, but he isn’t very good containing the outside, and he isn’t getting to the QB enough. He just isnt a guy with a lot of tools in the bag and apparently hasnt added any since he got to the NFL.
Cash payout 1.9M for 2020 with a cap hit of 3.4M, dead money 3.15M.
I don’t think he’s earning it, but it doesn’t really matter, what matters is if you’re willing to cut him based on cost and performance over replacement.
Iggy Mahogany grew a lot as a CB last year, i do think formerly being a WR helped him because he runs routes with them like he knows eactly what they are going to be doing, keeps coverage tight, has good instant acceleration and straight line speed. Position flexibility just kinda seals the deal too.
Sean Smith (former Dolphin) also played WR before being switched to corner. I know a lot of folks here hated him but I thought he was a pretty good player
Krishna and Rock – We know you both hate Trump. Don’t suffer from TDS. Use facts and accurate numbers to support your hate if you can. Don’t compare the US to individual European countries.
Europe (population 741 million) has had 1.3 million COVID cases as of 4/27 with 122,678 deaths (9.4% death rate)
USA (pop. 329 million) 1.04 million, 59K+ deaths (5.7% death rate – so much for the power and efficacy of socialized medicine)
China (1.5 billion) who knows, but I would bet on the over of Europe.
Trump is an asshat when he talks. He has esteem issues. But if we had listened to all the Dems and Never-Trumpers in the beginning, the whole countries would have experienced what NYC did. He did what he could with what he had, which was a bloated, self-serving, inefficient government bureaucracy, politicians who played party politics, taking opposite stances to everything he said or did just because Trump said it, and a hostile, Agenda-driven, clickbait media that cannot be trusted.
Take for instance the ban on China travel. All the opposition panned it. Until it was the “Oh shit” moment. Then it was well you let 40K people in from China after the ban. Yes 40K – American citizens, Green-card holders, and legal US residents, US passport holders. Let’s not overlook that when he didn’t want an infected cruise ship to port in California, the State and other groups queued up to sue over it because…wait for it…there were US citizens aboard! ClassicTDS! When Trump said social distance and stay home, NYC brass and Dem leadership in Congress said “No! Go to the Chinese New Year’s celebrations! Ride the subways! Come have dinner in Chinatown! Gather in your masses – nothing to worry about!”
I could go on and on, but I’m already wasting electrons. Those who need a strawman to blame for their fear will continue to have selective memories and rationalize data to support their hysteria. Those who don’t won’t. Ain’t nobody changing any bodies mind.
All I have to say about the great divide between folks who hate Trump and folks who are either indifferent or supporters of him. I know lots of people on both sides, and there are some really good people on both sides. We sometimes focus on one thing, and we forget that there’s a very good person before us who just has different values or ideas when it comes to politics. I wish more people could just look at it that way. I see way too many people that immediately classify people as with with Trump or against him and then draw lines in the sand as to where they stand. That’s a shame. People can’t look farther than their nose.
Its like i said before, Trump didn’t create this mess and he cant clean it up. He can help or hurt the situation, but the fucking problem is people. Stop trying to excuse the fack that if we didnt have dumb-asses spreading this shit because they aren’t doing what the government has been telling them to do, we wouldn’t be in this situation.
I absolutely hate the fact DeSantis has opened up the beaches again, BUT he technically isnt saying go out and come to the beaches its fine here, he is just opening it up instead of restricting it, and that could be due to a lot of things like having to dedicate police resources to patrol it, etc. I dont care what it is, personally i think its a fucking horrible move, BUT shouldn’t we just no go? I mean who the fuck cares if its open, we shouldnt be there, so put some of the onus back on the people who are too fucking stupid to do the right thing.
I also said this before, you want the government to control the situation, the only way to do that is a level of lockdown that people will just turn around and call it the government overstepping its boundaries. There really is no win on this, people are protesting the fucking shutdown and have been for a while, so make up your fucking minds people, do you want this controlled or do you not?
Again, look to your left and look to your right, see those dumbasses, thats the problem!. HA! tricked yam, you shouldn’t see a person to your left or right you should be the fuck at hiome dumbass! Its simple, stay in, stay safe, dont go out unless 100% necessary, wear what you need to be safe from catching it and things will gradually die off, dont and we can continue on this 30k a day trend for years or until all the dumb-asses die off.
This isn’t Trump, this isn’t the government, this is me and you and its our responsibility to get this shit under control. The government should be working on making sure we survive it economically, and places of treatment and prevention have the funding they need, nothing else.
The problem I have with politics….well, one of them….is how tribal it’s become. McConnell was an obstructionist throughout Obama’s presidency. He admitted that his sole focus was to prevent everything Obama or the Dems put forward. He had no desire to work for the US people. He was doing whatever he could for HIS party. Now, the Dems have learned that is how you screw the other party and get yourself back in power. So, we have a political system that really only cares about their own party….or more specifically…their special interests. They all suck donkeys, and the system will never change because these politicians benefit from the status quo. It’s notin their benefit to change it or even call attention to it.
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Nobody holds the high ground in this scenario and it’s the people who suffer.
Exactly
My post wasn’t actually a political post, it was people post. I hope that was clear
I got it Mike E. I actually read it several times and agree with you. I’m flummoxed by all of it.
https://twitter.com/DolphinsRuleAll/status/1255504757554384900?s=20
Besides the fact that Vero Delfino is a knob gobbler, he fits in perfectly to my post above at 11:22AM, that’s true. Can’t imagine why people are so engrossed in what number he picks.
Some pundits are saying Dan should unretire #13 and let Tua have it???
Media driven drivel!!!!
Kind of early to labeling Tua “the next Miami Dolphins legend.”
That was exactly my first thought, PP.
Wyo – Fuck that! I doubt Tua gives a flying fuck that he doesn’t get #13, why do other people care more than he does? Stupid!
Got a call today from Tim, our Phins ticket guy. Was sorta of weird he called actually. All he had to say was schedule would be out next week. Was almost wondering if he was checking for people who were gonna say “we’re out.” Nice as I am…..don’t think he was missing me.
wyoming85 says:
April 29, 2020 at 12:09 pm
Some pundits are saying Dan should unretire #13 and let Tua have it???
Media driven drivel!!!!
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I think that might could be an option later in his career. You would have to have that be am honor bestowed upon you and let Dan decide when or if it should happen.
Oh and Mike i think you are right, i dont think Tua cares in the least and understand the honor of that number and why its retired,
Tua has said he fully realizes why 13 is retired. And completely agree’s!
He only picked 13, because his high school number was gone. He doesn’t really care. It’s not like his dad wore 31 and he hates his dad, so he wants the reverse😉 Bueller?
Already two #13s in the ring of honor. Would be cool to have 3. But that’s up to Marino and then if he deserves it Tua.
“I think Tua is one of the most accurate, gifted quarterbacks I’ve ever seen coming out of college. I think he has a chance to totally change the franchise. He is a remarkable passer, remarkably great kid.”
— Tebow
Coming from Tebow it loses its luster, as he usually only says nice things about people, but I couldn’t agree more.
I don’t know how we can praise our FO any more for the job they did getting Tua. Not talking about, if he’s going to be great or have an injury riddled career, just that we didn’t have to trade up to get him and how no one else did either. Wonder how pissed the Chargers are that we put one over on them🤔
They definately were not sure how to handle that situation from a video i saw on Twitter with the interview with Telesco. Seemed like they had multiple different plans in place on what they would have done if we did this or that, including the trade up for tackle scenario. He would have been a Charger if we didnt play that right.
For whatever reason the Chargers did not try to trade up. Otherwise either they would have gotten Tua or we would have traded up for him.
Who the hell in Mike Bianchi? What a numbnuts. I’m not a big fan of retiring numbers. I think it’s cool to watch traditions grow with a number. Getting a particular number was a big deal in high school. I had to actually get permission from the guy who wore my number before I could take it. I can still remember the talk we had, and he made it clear he’d kick my ass if I didn’t respect the number and play my ass off. Those kinds of traditions are neat.
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That said, the number is retired, and Tua can start a new tradition with a different number.
That’s pretty cool. Like you are carrying on his tradition. I got “taught some tricks” by guys who played my position but our numbers just meant where you played. So nothing like that.
Randy, Mike Bianchi is sports columnist for the Orlando Sentinel, he does local radio as well and thinks he knows everything.
I’m going to stay out of the political conversation if I can
But in case you forgot..lol…I’m a trump hater too
I usually agree with most of Krishna and Rock’s posts on the subject and as I see it, those posts are just holding an elected official to account.
Whether it’s Trump, Pelosi, McConnel, Biden, Bernie, Amash of whomever – holding elected officials to account is a necessary in a democratic republic. Whether you agree with the things that are said about them or not leaders are held to account in our form of govt
Sometimes it feels to me like bc Trump haters are so aggressive (often over the top) in their criticism of Trump, that the counter to that is to not hold him accountable at all…to me that’s a big problem for some one who is an elected official to the most powerful position in the world
Its OK to hold any elected official accountable, but when it’s always one-sided from the usual suspects, and the media, then you’re going to get the backlash.
We all get that Trump says a lot of things he shouldn’t, but if you want to hold him accountable and have credibility, then say something once in a while where you agree with him, otherwise just haters hating.
Tua has publicly said he doesn’t want the number 13
He’s respectful of Marino’s legacy even if social media accounts are not
Personally I hope he takes the #2
Say “Tua is number two” 10 times fast
2 Tagovailoa anyone? – his whole name will be on the jersey which is pretty cool
Some great history behind #2. 🙂
Matt Haack will have to give it up
LOL — he stole it just like Marino did from Jake Scott.
I wish we would give up on Haack.
steve — Haack got a strong leg, just not much touch and direction in it.
Maybe, but a 45 yard avg is bad.
So we’re going to give our fastest pass rusher in team history’s jersey # to our slowest🤔
Damn dude, you’re relentless! He ran a 4.26 20 yards shuttle and most times the 40 yard dash is within a .5 seconds or less, which would put him at anywhere between 4.6 and 4.7, which isn’t slow. Why do you hate on him so, he hasn’t done a thing yet. Relax, hate on him if he looks bad in training camp or preseason.
As are you guys talking this scrub up. His times can be whatever, he has to show that speed on the field or it means nothing.
Ourlads has our depth chart up
Lot of things that seem questionable on it
Can you see the errors?
https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIA
Igbo starting in front of Bobby McCane? Hurns staring instead of WIlliams?
What are you pointing to?
I first went to Davis at RT
But that might happen
Burns ahead of Preston Williams is odd
Why are there two slots for RBs and 1 for a FB
I don’t think Davis will be the back up NT
Weaver is behind Charles Harris…which is probably just bc he hasn’t seen camp yet – but that won’t be how it will shake out IMO
Williams is hurt.
Phellon, just want to be clear here. I do not hate Trump. I just think he is a buffoon, a liar and the worst president in the history of the republic.
I dunno, he wasn’t a President, but as a leader Admiral Ackbar was kinda fishy.
Not that republic silly!
LMAO…..well I can say I hate him, too. And, have since I lived in NY. I actually like him when I first “knew” of him and then as I read more and more about him, not so much.
However, I also hated Clinton. But, he sure did balance the budget and run a tight economically sound ship when he was getting blow jobs in the white house.
No Hillary did.
Hillary shouldn’t have been allowed to run against Trump since technically that was he running for a third term.
In fairness, the REPUBLICAN MAJORITY CONGRESS balanced the budget. It is set up in the division of powers that the congress sets the budget, not the president. (Little thing called the Constitution)
Clinton also benefited from the dot com boom / technology boom.
I’m not saying is polices didn’t contribute positively to the final result, just that you cannot anoint him the reason why.
Stop it, D.
However, I will give you it was probably a tag team effort. She was supposed to usher in (over haul) Health Care affordability, if I remember correctly.
Fair enough, Rockphin. Not into the anointing business, but he did preside and signed the bill. Typically, presidents get the credit.
Most of what gets done by the president is technically the responsibility of congressional laws and bills proposed though the house and senate. So the President more sits and makes executive decisions over things like that, he really doesn’t “do” much of anything. They are part of the process and the end say, but shit doesnt happen at all without the legislative branch.
Nice of Roger, but hard not to see this as a sign of what is to come as well.
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“Coming off a personable performance during the most-watched NFL draft in history, there’s another story that paints him in a good light. Goodell, who was set to make as much as $40 million this season if incentives were hit, asked the NFL compensation committee to forego his entire salary amid the coronavirus pandemic.”
Sooooooooo, a bunch of Billionaire team owners won’t have to pay his multi million dollar salary? That is so thoughtful of him……
Was taking it as an indication that the NFL season may not go as usghe.
Piggy,
I completely agree that we, as citizens, need to hold our public officials accountable. But, the idea behind having a 3 prong system is that there were to be checks and balances between the three branches of government. Trump…and those who go along with him….are destroying that balance and the American people are apathetic. The power to vote people out of office means nothing when the system itself is broken.
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I was not a fan of the impeachment process. But, by the end of it, I was shocked by how the people who are in position to safeguard those checks and balances simply sat back and allowed precedents to be set that will reverberate and negatively impact our system of government for all time. Trump and his cronies have damaged our system of government irreparably….all for greed.
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Clinton was impeached for getting a blowjob and then lying about it. Trump did so much worse, and then thumbed his nose at the whole process and got away with it because his party wanted it that way. It sickened me.
Ill be honest i think the Democrats did worse damage, not that the impeachment process shouldn’t be used if you think you have a reason for it, but because of how they acted through the whole process. They did more damage to that process and to themselves in the process of something where the goals were predictably unachievable. The call for impeachment also was reverberating WAY before any news came out about allegations of misdoing. Hell they had one of their current candidates right now paying for advertisements to gather dirt of Trump right after he was declared president. You cant handle yourself like that and not seem like just some angry mob trying to destroy the guy.
To be clear Krishna, i know you have your mind made up about me, but im not on the political side you think, im not a pro trump guy, im very critical of how he handles himself, but for fucks sake lets look at the big picture, and that picture includes the abhorrent way the democrats have been acting. How can you choose them over anyone, they a disgusting hate mob. There was a high ground to have been had, and they went 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
Krishna says:
April 29, 2020 at 3:29 pm
Stop it, D.
However, I will give you it was probably a tag team effort. She was supposed to usher in (over haul) Health Care affordability, if I remember correctly.
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I was joking, well kinda not but it was more poking fun at the fact that getting the blowjob part was his crowning achievement in the whitehouse. I give the credit to Hillary for anything else that got done, she was both the smart one and the driven one.
Nobody is starting ahead of Baker, and are we running a 3-4?
I just overlooked that as inconsequential, but maybe that was Piggy’s point? We are supposed to be a “multiple” defense, but you have to pick a 3-4 or 4-3 when doing the depth chart. how else could you set it up?
I’m not digging my teeth into the 3-4 Part
They have to use some base for a depth chart
4-3 would be worse than 3-4
Is Davis a NT? I don’t think that’s what he is
It’s honestly a good guess by our lads
But there was one unknown is how they use Davis, Lawson and Ogbah
Another is the OL – it’s hard for me to believe the vision long term for a lefty QB is to play Davis at RT
As a reminder to anyone how cares to keep track, I consider myself a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.
In both cases I lean more towards the center than the right or left.
I am not against social programs, but I think those people who “game them” and work the system when they don’t have to should be convicted and punished.
and example I can think of off the top of my head is Medicare / Medicaid. My ex-wife has a friend who got pregnant from her long time boyfriend. They both made a good living, he more than her. If they were married they would not have qualified for any government assistance with the medical expenses for the pregnancy / birth. They decided to wait 6 months after the birth to get married so that she could file for assistance, which she received.
I think this was a criminal manipulation of the system and let them know it several times. (I wasn’t invited over any more) Combined they made more money than my ex and I and we never wanted for anything.
Now, some girl gets pregnant and winds up alone and destitute, should the child suffer? I don’t mind paying taxes to assist that.
I think we are similar in our stance, you being the slightly more liberal counter to my slightly more conservative center. I believe how i believe, how i feel in my heart is the right way to believe and in social terms that generally makes me more liberal that conservative in the old sense of the terms. Lliberal though has went way out to the wackado corners of the earth and are starting to devour themselves are one group thinks that are the more minority of the other and demands to be the focus of the party is starting to make them turn on each other. Its getting really nuts and the new liberals like AOC are really radicalizing that group and exposing these traits. Unless the democrats want to completely bust up into several inconsequential groups, they need to really find their focus on what they want their party to be about, because right now it doesn’t have a cohesive identity and the ones who is barking the loudest is not the one you want to become the face of your partyy.
could be similar to the Tea Party members? What do republicans stand for now? It USED to be smaller Fed / more power to the states, but that went out the window with GWB. Repubs USED to be deficit hawks. That is in the past now too.
If you listen to the “issues” brought up, it is 1. lower CORPORATE taxes. 2. Install conservative judges so roe v wade can be overturned. 3. Roll back all environmental protection.
I know thats not true, but that’s all you hear coming from that side. Republicans want to poison your water. (Eyeroll)
If you want well-fare? Are you healthy and capable? Then you should have to volunteer or do community service to qualify.
I think you either need to be in school or have gainful employment and the amount of assistance you get shouldbe reflective on how hard you are working on improving yourself.
Its a hand up to gett you up when you were down, not a puick me up and carry me the rest of my life.
What if you are disabled?
I think our current system does require people to prove they are trying to get a job to stay on it after a certain amount of time
Personally, I think people focus too much on the gaming of the system rather than the good it does
One of the things I do in my practice is represent A nonprofit guardian program who is appointed to people who have been declared incapacitated
We utilize these programs to keep people up in their homes and keep them fed
Some of the people are youngish and have always been that way. But others have normal lives and normal careers and then something happens that changes it. Many are elderly and just don’t have retirement savings or didn’t prepare for life when they couldn’t work
There are so many people like that who benefit from these programs. There are things I can fault them for in how they handle their lives, but I still like these programs to exist to benefit them so that they have minimal things like food and shelter
People are going to game systems if you have systems to help people like that
I think the benefit outweighs the harm
I know a woman who both manipulated unemployment and welfare at the same time. Collecting unemployment while working a job where she got paid in cash, while she was collecting medicaid because her live in boyfriend is not her husband, and every time she pumps out a puppy, the government rewards her with more money. This is such abuse of the system. I honestly feel like if you’re on medicaid, they should make it clear that if you have children you will not get an additional benefit. It’s rewarding stupidity
If the state/fed/city or whomever administers that welfare learns that they can sue her to get the money back with interest
It happens
But get problem is it’s not always cost effective
It might costs more to file that suit and prosecute it, then what you get back
Govt turns a blind eye to a lot of abuses bc it doesn’t pay to prosecute them
You can imagine
If some is getting $300 a month
And they do that for 5 years
That’s $18,000 dollars lost
Will it cost more than 18k to the same govt agency to go after that abuse – it might…
Rock,
There are estimates that the government spends as much as 50% more on corporate welfare than on what people think of as social welfare. The numbers vary depending on different factors but the fact is that the true welfare culprits are corporations. And, lots of times, those companies aren’t putting that money back into our economy but into Countries abroad and their economies.
steveccnv says:
April 29, 2020 at 3:28 pm
So we’re going to give our fastest pass rusher in team history’s jersey # to our slowest🤔
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Cam Wake? I assume you are refering to him because of the #91 on the jersey.
Wake ran a 4.65 so, um yeah.
I don’t understand, we don’t even have an official 40 time for Weaver, but like I said, it’s probably somewhere between 4.6 and 4.7
Thats why i hate the fucking 40, 40 isnt about short burst quickness its about straight line top speed. Wake’s explosive speed took him to top speed in an instant, i dont see that same explosiveness in Weaver, but then again, not many people have that explosiveness either.
The Flying Pig says:
April 29, 2020 at 4:18 pm
What if you are disabled?
I think our current system does require people to prove they are trying to get a job to stay on it after a certain amount of time
Personally, I think people focus too much on the gaming of the system rather than the good it does
One of the things I do in my practice is represent A nonprofit guardian program who is appointed to people who have been declared incapacitated
We utilize these programs to keep people up in their homes and keep them fed
Some of the people are youngish and have always been that way. But others have normal lives and normal careers and then something happens that changes it. Many are elderly and just don’t have retirement savings or didn’t prepare for life when they couldn’t work
There are so many people like that who benefit from these programs. There are things I can fault them for in how they handle their lives, but I still like these programs to exist to benefit them so that they have minimal things like food and shelter
People are going to game systems if you have systems to help people like that
I think the benefit outweighs the harm
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First, of course i didnt mean the disabled or unable to do. Im talking able and doesn’t try at all.
Also, the gaming of the systems actually keeps those that need it from getting it and it nmakes the whole system see disreputable. I for sure needs over-site and cleanup and it needs restriction so that the funds available in that system are going to the most needy. Im not talkign abotu the same people you are.
I know we are not talking about the same people
But the reality is, whatever you have in place to protect people who deserve it will always be manipulated by people who don’t
It’s like a retail store paying for security to stop shoplifters
But then realizing the security costs are more than they ever lost on shoplifting – they still hate the shoplifters but they were losing less profit before they hired security to stop it
It’s already a beaurocratic process as is
You are balancing the losses of people gaming the system with the benefits of the people it’s intended to protect
If you put more things in place, more oversight, it can negatively affect the people you don’t intend to restrict from it. It’s not easy to police these things
Making it harder for people who abuse it to get is usually making it harder for people who deserve it too. That’s usually how it works
My point is that the benefit outweighs the harm
We just often here the stories about the harm and the abusers
That we forget the people who really utilize and benefit from these programs
Theoretically I’m in agreement with you
But in practice, hard to do without usurping the people you want to help
D,
I think the idea that the Dems went through the impeachment process just because they wanted to “get Trump” are a bit myopic. I don’t doubt that was part of it. I also don’t think they did any harm to our system of government. Should they have been more systematic in how they approached the process? Probably. But, once the process had been undertaken….just as in every other impeachment po chess, it was up to all involved to make sure they upheld their constitutional responsibility to o review the case objectively by looking at the evidence. The Dems tried. The Republicans ran and hid from theirs like spoiled children and did everything they could to keep evidence from being brought forward. They allowed a President, for the first time EVER….including Clinton….to absolutely refuse to cooperate with the process. A precedent was set where no President will ever cooperate with an investigation or impeachment process again. Basically neutering the process.
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And, let’s not forget about all the public officials that had their reputations and careers destroyed by Trump before, during and after the process simply because they told the truth. Trump isn’t just a blowhard or an idiot. He’s an evil bastard who ruins lives for no other reason than he doesn’t like what someone said.
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And I gotta stop talking politics before I explode. Lol
You missed what i was saying and i cont explain it better so ill just opt out lol. Sorry.
I completely agree….and it really isn’t about hate. It really is about WHO he is…period. And, he represents our country. Perfect!
Piggy – I think the government needs to be more careful handing out money to applicants. They should be checking into these people better. Same with social security and medicaid, I remember when I lived in Brighton beach, which is “Little Odessa” for those who aren’t familiar, there were Russian clients that came in wearing fur coats and driving Mercedes and paying for their vacations with SSI checks and welfare checks. They get into the country and it seems like within a couple of months they’re already on the teet, when they have far more money that would qualify them. Check into these things. Check the DMV, they have to have a vehicle registered, how can they afford a brand new Mercedes on welfare? Just another example of the issues.
Did you ever see Lord Of War – it’s on right now and he grows up in little Odessa – just thought that was a coincidence
I don’t disagree in principal with what you are saying
But sometimes we lose sight of how many people benefit from these programs when we focus on the abuses
And it’s not easy to police these programs without that policing obstructing the people who really deserve it
There are actually blueprints you can find online for maximizing your government assistance. I read one onetime where it was like, as a man, you make sure you stay unmarried, but you can live with your gf, have kids etc, but you claim your parents address as yours, your “gf” gets assistance for housing, child care, food, utilities, etc, totaled up to something like 65k no counting what they will give to pay for her educations, etc. The guy meanwhile can make whatever, and it doesn’t affect that 65k+. I mean this was something online instructing people to take from the government and what im thinking is how much less is a needy person going to get because they did the right thing and only took what they needed. So yeah it needs to be looked into, and there need to be restrictions or the people you are saying that it does good for are ultimately going to be the ones that suffer.
Ugh! The fact that are blueprints for this abuse sickens me
The Dems or Libs (such a hateful group) wanted that in the bills they were trying to pass. At least, that’s my understanding.
OPENED UP TODAY’s TAMPA BAY TIMES and read that YESTERDAY was the deadliest day of all in Florida for deaths during the entire battle against the Corona virus. Then I read that governor DeSantis is NOT going to renew the “Stay at Home” policy that is the back bone of the fight against this disease!! As of Saturday, a lot more people will be “hitting the streets” just as the virus is claiming a record amount of lives here in Florida!!
What’s wrong with this picture?
Are we trying to “Out-Georgia Georgia?” Is there some kind of numerical “race” between the two neighbor states??? In my neighborhood I’ve seen folks with Trump shirts walking IN LARGE GROUPS, DEFYING SOCIAL DISTANCING AND NOT WEARING FACE MASKS!!–ARE THEY TRYING TO OUT-DO VICE PRESIDENT PENCE??
BTW, this same Gov. DeSantis was the one who, after banning large get togethers of MORE than 10 people, took a step backward and declared that churches are immune from this proviso and may cram as many people as they want into a small church without masks or social distancing!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!
Not a fan of the gov either, but figure I can lock down myself. My mayor is pretty logical about it though….. we closed down the beaches and kicked out the spring breakers while they were still partying in Daytona and Tampa, etc.
BTW — my wife asked how you and your lovely were doing today. Don’t take it personal, but she knew you guys were in the “at risk” demographic.
What he is saying is you are very very old.
D– how old are you? Obviously OD is not young just by his name. I’m mid-50s if that helps.
early 40’s
We’ve all been younger than that dude. And you will be where most of us are in ten years or so. So what’s it matter?
Stay at Home law doesnt make people stay at Home, it just makes it legal to arrest people if they dont have reason to be out, and thats not getting policed at all. People staying at home is the backbone to fighting this disease and thats unfortunately a voluntary thing.
Randy says:
April 29, 2020 at 4:07 pm
Rock,
There are estimates that the government spends as much as 50% more on corporate welfare than on what people think of as social welfare….
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Randy, I totally agree. Things like General Electric being exempt from paying taxes for years and years. (until recently) one of the LARGEST conglomeration corps in the country paid ZERO for close to a decade.
Next coming will be the oil company bail out because the the “terrible” situation they are in due to the battle between Russia and Saudi plus the virus impact.
Remember when premium gas was over $4.80 per gallon under GWB? The cost to pump it from the ground wasn’t that much more than it is now. “They” just artificially drove up the price and pocketed the profits and gave them as dividends to their stock holders.
You watch, it is coming.
Here’s a very serious political issue for all of us to ponder
Can you believe this is happening?
https://www.theonion.com/box-with-cooking-instructions-immediately-retrieved-fro-1819592256
And this!
Can you believe this is still happening in AMERICA!
https://local.theonion.com/local-oaf-not-sure-what-part-of-counter-you-order-at-1819577026
I can, he makes up 90% of the American population
If they here’s not a sign that says “order here” we are all like mice in a maze
I like the ones where, one person goes rogue and stands somewhere where they arent supposed to be, ie there could actually be a sign that says order here and that guy just mi9ssed it, but then everyone starts forming a line behind them lol.
Again, do your research, corporations are making billions…..some estimates say it might be over a trillion dollars….off the “welfare system”. The sad part is nobody really seems to care. Or, maybe we all just feel helpless to do anything about it.
D says:
April 29, 2020 at 4:30 pm
Thats why i hate the fucking 40, 40 isnt about short burst quickness its about straight line top speed. Wake’s explosive speed took him to top speed in an instant, i dont see that same explosiveness in Weaver, but then again, not many people have that explosiveness either.
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Ok, do you think the three cone drill is better? How about the 20 yard shuttle? Which is a better measure? Or do you just go with the un-measurable eye test?
From Draft scout.com: (not saying these are accurate, just what is posted)
20 yard shuttle:
Wake – 4.13
Weaver – 4.27
(.14 seconds difference, you can’t say .14 in .14 seconds…)
3 cone:
Wake – 7.12
Weaver – 7.00
I’m not saying Weaver will be wake, just that their measurable WHEN MEASURED are similar.
The Flying Pig says:
April 29, 2020 at 4:35 pm
I know we are not talking about the same people……Theoretically I’m in agreement with you
But in practice, hard to do without usurping the people you want to help
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I find it similar to the immigration conversation. I am a first gen immigrant. I often get offended by people on the right who say I am stealing someone else job. I EARNED my position with many years of hard work. I have paid hundreds of thousand of dollars in income tax and 10’s of thousand in SS and MED in my life. If you listen to the far right, then I am a drag on the country. (Unless you are a racist and just think that “Brown immigrants” are bad and white, blue eyed, blond haired ones are ok…..
If you listen to the far right….. is the answer to this, you shouldn’t be listening to the far right or the far left, those fuckers are crazy. Problem is, they are multiplying while we are while the country continues to divide. Best you can do is be you, vote your heart and let the chips fall. I wish there was a more immediate solution to the shit we have for politicians, but there doesn’t seem to be.
It’s analogous to conversations on immigration
There are a few states that bc their taxing is derived from sales tax rather than income tax, have an entire infrastructure that is dependent on the volume of spending by people, irrespective of citizenship
I can go on forever about the benefits derived from undocumented people but that’s a whole different conversation
Piggy,
I tried to use one of those new order kiosks in a McDonald’s. After about 3 tries of not getting my order paced, I had to finally say fuck it because I couldn’t figure it out. Does that make me stupid? Lol
Use the app old man, order and then swing by and they had it to you and you are on your way.
can even pay for it so you dont have to hand them your card.
That’s like when I call a 1800 number and insist on speaking to an operator
“Operator”
I said “operator”
“Operator!!!!”
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Ok, do you think the three cone drill is better? How about the 20 yard shuttle? Which is a better measure? Or do you just go with the un-measurable eye test?
From Draft scout.com: (not saying these are accurate, just what is posted)
20 yard shuttle:
Wake – 4.13
Weaver – 4.27
(.14 seconds difference, you can’t say .14 in .14 seconds…)
3 cone:
Wake – 7.12
Weaver – 7.00
I’m not saying Weaver will be wake, just that their measurable WHEN MEASURED are similar.
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Actually its broad jump, that measures your get off. Vert jump to some extent, but it mroe measures your lower body power.
D,
App? What if I want a full meal and not just an appetizer? And why do I have to give them a card? Isn’t a nice smile and a “thank you” good enough?
LOL
Weaver didn’t look slow in any of the clips I’ve seen of him. He moves pretty well for his size.
Steve maybe your playback speed is out of adjustment.
I looked at Strowbridge as well and also looks quick/fast. Be nice if these guys can make an impact.
I think the book on weaver is that he is an overachiever and not very athletic
But really technically sound
Sometimes making the right move is better than making the fastest move
Do your job
Randy, that’s just one more thing that makes you stupid.
Yeah, Wake hasd a 45 in vert, and a 130 inch broad, to Weavers 32.5 116.
Weaver also had about 25 lbs on him. I dont see slow with Weaver either, but he certainly isnt Cam Wake off the line, but like i said, not many are.
Huge difference there where it counts
D is what’s known as a whippersnapper. A shaver. A pipsqueak. A squirt. Someone who should basically be seen and not heard. 😀
That sounds about right lol. Probably have been told that by people of your generation before 🙂