I don’t think there’s a position on this team with as much uncertainty. We have the veteran, last year’s rushing leader, and consummate professional in Ryan Fitzpatrick. He’s the savvy guy who was able to show impressive escapability when the blocking wasn’t up to snuff. This was something 2nd year QB (at the time) Josh Rosen couldn’t muster. Rosen was stymied by the constant pressure and although his arm strength looked as good as many NFL QB’s, his ability to understand what he saw out on the field in opposing defenses was lacking. To be fair, he was in 2 pretty poor situations, first in a woeful offense in Arizona under one and done HC Steve Wilks, and then here with the Dolphins in the midst of a team rebuild. We traded away our best OT (Laremy Tunsil) for 2 first RD picks from the Texans, but that didn’t help our QB’s in 2019. The odd thing for me was that Rosen was considered one of the most NFL ready QB’s from the 2018 Draft yet he was still having trouble identifying the “Mike” on the defensive side of the ball.
Ryan Fitzpatrick won the confidence of his teammates and DeVante Parker ended up emerging as a legitimate top level WR. Before Parker and Fitzgerald went on their torrential run from game 8 on, rookie Preston Williams was his favorite target and the rookie was having a very nice rookie season. He is clearly a leader of men, and by the end of the season Fitzgerald made it clear he wanted to return here and be the starter. The Miami Dolphins on the other hand had to look to the future, both the distant future and immediate future and drafted Tua Tagovailoa at #5. This had been discussed and predicted for so long to me it almost became a foregone conclusion. So now that leaves us with a wily veteran who has put together 2 pretty good seasons in a row with Tampa Bay and now our Dolphins. We have a young veteran QB who has endured 2 difficult seasons and it shouldn’t be discounted that many scouts questioned his desire and love for football in the first place in Josh Rosen. Then add in what I will have to consider our best QB prospect in many years, 1983 to be exact in Tua Tagovailoa.
There are a couple of wild cards that will have their play here. One of them is COVID-19 which unfortunately is running wild in Florida at the time of this writing. Nearly 10,000 new cases have devastated FLA since fully reopening. The other wild card is the actual physical health of Tua Tagovailoa. If he really is completely healed and ready to go will the Dolphins be able to keep him off the field? The COVID-19 wild card works 2 ways here. One, it may make opening camp here in FLA impossible and force a relocation if it doesn’t quiet down. It also may force the NFL to push back team activities although they are loathe to do that. They desperately want to start on time and it seems the only real concessions the NFL is going to make is lopping off a couple of preseason games. Let’s just say that they move the team to a facility that keeps them away from the general public and COVID-19 is not a factor. It will be interesting to see how things proceed. The Dolphins made it clear that they would prefer to start Fitzpatrick and he earned that right. On the other hand, if Tua truly is right physically and starts lighting things up, it will become increasingly more difficult for the Dolphins not to let their new potential star take the QB reins.
What about Josh Rosen, who has to be the most overlooked QB on the roster. Most people think he’s in danger of being cut unless the Dolphins decide to keep 3 QB’s. Last season the Dolphins carried only 2. This year, the gameday roster will increase to 48 from 46 but one of those must be an OL. It’s possible this increase could affect the decision to carry 3 QB’s, but I believe if Tua is healed that would be unnecessary. I think the one thing that Josh Rosen has in his favor is his age and inexpensive rookie contract. Ryan Fitzpatrick will turn 38 this season and Josh Rosen is 23. Keep in mind Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn’t always a starting QB, he didn’t start until he was traded to the Cincinnati Bengals after his 3rd season and then he was traded again to our rival Buffalo Bills the next season. Josh Rosen is in a similar flight pattern to Fitzgerald and maybe he finds his footing at some point. It may just come down to desire with him because he has the physical tools of an NFL QB, one with a better than average NFL arm. He has to show something this season or his career as a Miami Dolphin will likely be over.
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That can’t be right, can it? 50 Mil per year? No way. The GM and owner should be fired if that is what it works out to. NO ONE PLAYER not even the greatest of all time is worth that kind of money!
They haven’t came out with a price yet.
That was my guess.
NO WAY
The richest per year sum before now was 35 Mil for Wilson and 34 mil for Rothlesberger
We’ll see?????
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 38-40 mil a year average. It’ll be high the first couple of years, then average, then low the last couple. Can’t wait to see the details.
If it ‘only’, lol, averages 35 mil, then the Chiefs get a steal assuming Mahomes stays healthy.
No matter what the numbers it’s major risk/reward. Guaranteed money will be really interesting. Maybe there will be an opt out clause for team and player after year 6 or 7. that would reduce the risk for both. Wow, 12 years total…
Yeah thats a baseball contract in length. Unheard of in NFL. My guess is it will be in the 40′ like i said below.
12 yeah eat the final two years of the last contract, so lets say it a 10 year 450mil extension, then you average in the last two of this one and its really a 37.5 per deal. My guess is it could be a 10 year 500mil extension. which would make it a 42ish per year average.
You could also say that technically, since he wont get the money due from the last part of his rookie contract, which was a little over 5mil this year and would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 25mil on a 5th year option. So maybe 600mil as the extension could be right, because technically that would be closer to a 570mil extension which would break down into 47.5 mil per. Probably wont be that much but i could see it getting pretty damn close.
I just read La Canfora says the Chiefs were prepared to offer him $40 mil a season back in Jan, so it likely won’t be less than that.
This could potentially change the way teams sign their franchise QBs for good.
They might as well make him part owner.
yeah give them a stake in the franchise. I could see that, its kinda like forgoing a certain part of the contract money for partial ownership, potentially could pay out larger dividends playing the long game, and would be money that continued after retirement.
Yep, exactly what I was thinking. this might open the door for that kind of thing. I don’t know, there may be fair bargaining rules against it, but if you have a generational talent, it might make a lot of sense. you keep him, he doesn’t eat too much of your cap, and the player gets a ton of security.
That would just be how they split it, but if so, since there are no guarantees on that, you would have to think it would be considered a bonus amount. I dont think you could use a variable when writing up a contract, without it being a clause.
Kind of a shot in the dark, but I wonder if Dak had the scoop about this contract happening, and he is holding out for something similar in Dallas. I’ve seen a lot of speculation over why Dak hasn’t resigned yet with what the Cowboys have offered.
I definitely think that he was waiting on someone to set the market, and it had to be one of the younger QB’s coming up for contract. I think Mahomes though is going to set his ceiling, i dunno if he is also waiting for one of the other QB’s taken his year to go off the board so he can set his floor. One of those teams will be more desperate to lock up their guy because they have shit else on a franchise that has been in the dumpster for so many years they cant afford not to re-sign him. Then he gets a floor of 35 or so, and can push for the 38 that he wanted
I guess what im saying is this wont help him as much as one of those other guys signing will but im sure it helps kinda hone in on a target amount.
I was just looking up longest nfl contracts. i don’t remember it, but Mcnabb had a 9 yr deal with the eagles, so maybe this isn’t as of the walls different as I thought it was.
And Bledsoe signed a 10 yr contract with the Pets, lol, right before Brady.
I guess this piddly little Mahomes thing is nothing to see here, carry on. LOL
Yeah but still its pretty much unprecedented. Standard contracts are 4-5, so something that doubles that is something to see. I mean just the fear of injury in the NFL is what i always thought kept the contracts shorter in term. I guess they feel like they will do whats necessary to make sure he doesn’t get hurt.
Funniest sports item I heard today is Cam Newton is tired of being humble . . .
Lol, i saw that and thought to myself….really?
Cam Newton has been a lot of thing in his career, both college and NFL, but humble has never been one of those things.
LMAO, I saw that too. I almost said something because he also made an ignorant comment about gorillas being quiet when the lion roars. This inter-species discrimination will not stand. A silverback could easily take on a lion, and my family wouldn’t even notice him.
So a little over 400M for the 10 year extension. Being an extension, he is still under the current contracts this year and next.
40M going that far out is a bargain for the Chiefs, 40M for Dak and you set yourself up for no team success.
The Kansas City Chiefs and quarterback Patrick Mahomes have reached agreement on a 10-year contract extension worth over $400 million total that ties him to Kansas City through the 2031 season, league sources tell ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
The Chiefs picked up Mahomes’ fifth-year option for the 2021 season in April, putting him under contract for the next two seasons. Mahomes had two years and $27.6 million left on his existing deal — $2.8M this year, $24.8M in 2021. The 10-year extension puts him under contract with the Chiefs for the next 12 seasons.
Real interested to see what the guaranteed amount is.
I don’t expect it will be much more than $100M.
Every time a new QB contract comes up we get wowed by how much per year. But has there ever been a ten year contract in the NFL? That’s amazing.
Um, yeah there has, lol.
You got me on a pay-no-mind list or what, Spider?
That’s a paraphrased Goodfellas quote. I’m not calling you names. 🙂
People often say I don’t see the 800-pound gorilla in the room. 🙂
Spider was prepping for the Sopranos.
Ok if its 450, its pretty close to what i was thinking, somewhere int the 450-500mil range.
No as big of a bargain as i was saying it was below when i heard the 400mil, but definately still a good deal.
Gotta think the Chiefs are pretty sure he won’t do a Luck…. but then have to think the Colts were sure Luck wouldn’t do a Luck.
I mean thats pretty much a bargain for Mahomes TBH. Nice contract.
The scene with Spider summed up the culture they were trying to portray in that one scene, not that others didnt severly support it as well lol.
Another good decision by the SCOTUS today, ruling that states can insist their electors uphold the state popular vote. Although this one really was a no-brainer, the SCOTUS is on a roll.
For those that may not know what this was about. 18 of the states have no requirement in place to stop electors from voting whichever way they decided to regardless of what people in their state voted. It’s never turned an election, but there have been a few times in history including last election that a handful of electors voted against their state’s populace wishes. Ridiculous.
But the decision doesn’t do more than allow the states to change their charters to allow it. Their will still have to be local / state level changes voted in to stop the electors from voting the way they will.
Now these states should take the courts lead and pass local laws that prevent it happening.
Fucking There , They’re and Their SMH
Now that SCOTUS ruled on it, for states that want to make these changes, it won’t get bogged down in lower courts.
And they should all do it. I still can’t believe this is even a thing.
Yeah Cav, I had a hard time believing it was a thing either.
The way the “electors” are selected differ from state to state and are bizarre in some cases too.
with the 27 mil on the rookie deal, it come up to 530!
what’s 70 mil between friends? 😉
That’s one fat ass commission check!
People don’t realize that they never get to vote for president. They actually get to vote for their state electors who then cast their votes for president. There are only 538 people that actually get to vote for president.
Mike E I predicted 600 Mil
for a 12 year total
It’s a helluva contract. On the other hand, they just seem to always get exceeded.
I look forward to watching KC crash and burn over the next decade. LOL
ROCK: THE NFL is becoming more and more a quarterback’s league with each “passing” season. Having one of the league’s top quarterbacks for a long stretch will be a huge advantage. DON”T bet too much money on the Chief’s demise.
so what is that 42 mil average? 503 over 12 years?
503 over 10
add the 27 for the next 2 to get to your 12 year average
Half a billion dollars on one contract. That is roughly a quarter of the worth of the Buffalo Bills franchise. Wild
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It works really well with the mute on! 😉
It’s actually better with the mute on
Not into the tats, but the girls are nice!
Damn, just saw this, sorry if it’s old news. RIP Charlie Daniels
He will be missed!
HEY CAVKONG AND THE REST OF YOU PUCKHEADS!!!!! – – The NHL Network is reporting that the NHL and the NHLPA have tentatively agreed to a 4-year extension of the current CBA which means not only will we have this year’s Stanley Cup Playoffs; we’ll also have several more years of hockey peace!!!!
I’m ready for some NHL. Woohoo!!
D says:
July 6, 2020 at 3:45 pm
12 yeah eat the final two years of the last contract, so lets say it a 10 year 450mil extension, then you average in the last two of this one and its really a 37.5 per deal. My guess is it could be a 10 year 500mil extension. which would make it a 42ish per year average.
For the numbers crowd!
yeah but he also has a couple of years where he is almost 60mil against the cap, there is that.
Duper Clayton Warfield Moore Chambers…..
The structure of this deal makes me think it will end up as a six-year, $183.4 million pact before the two sides negotiate a new contract after the 2025 season finishes, which would reduce $319.2 million of this deal to play money. ESPN Barnwell
This is a great deal for KC, 30.5+M for the next 6 years. Even when you take the next 2 years, when he was set to make about 30M, out of the yearly guarantee you still get just over 38M a year for 2022-2025.
And Dak wanted 40M per, yeah right.
Like i said before i think the Mahomes deal kinda set the ceiling for Dak it didnt set the floor. So Dak may still have leverage for 38, but not much higher i dont think or it will be something structured like Mahomes deal, and end result will be a cheap up front deal, which works out for the Boys and long term benefits for Dak if he makes it that long.
I agree, this kind of deal is going to be the precedent going forward for QBs.
What I really like about it is it temporarily puts a halt to the skyrocketing QB contracts, and the dumbass Richard Sherman’s of the world will just see 10 or 12 years and 500M and think his boy got paid.
This kind of contract screams OV isn’t getting sacks, but still getting pressures and other things.
The U75s only talk about our draft picks we didn’t resign, but not about those we didn’t resign and shouldn’t have at the price they got, like this one Miller…
Drake doesn’t fit in this category, but he should. Don’t think he fit for his price. I think he fits much better in AZ, so it was win win.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29419411/is-patrick-mahomes-500-million-contract-actually-team-friendly-answering-eight-questions-chiefs-qb-deal
Linked the article Steve quoted above. It’s got a lot of good info on the Mahomes deal
I would have resigned Vernon at 10, maybe up to 12mil per kinda deal. The nearly 16 he got from the Giants was very excessive.I think he is a pretty good DE, in a kinda all around kinda way, but elite he is not.
Miller was iffy, the 6.3mil per he got wasnt a bad amount for a running back with homerun ability like he had. I mean i thought the 6.3 was fair, and if not for my “dont sign RB’s to big contracts” kinda feelings on things, i probably would have signed him for that much as well.
Looks like the Browns didn’t think he was worth what we didn’t sign him for either. And since he to ok the pay cut….. Vernon too.
What every cool Dolfan is wearing these days.
I’d order that
Here’s your chance. Little pricey but has filters, which I’m not used too.
https://mysunfashion.com/product/tptk2300-miami-dolphins-cloth-face-mask/
Hell yeah, just ordered. Thanks
Did they have a “bed sheet” size? 😉
Cav — gonna be turning some heads in Cali. 🙂
LOL
That was lame on Wilkins part, good thing he recovered it or it would have been his last.
Williams was open behind him also!
Or Wilford, but the DB was closer to Wilford.
Walford, let’s just call him Clive.
If we win the division he’ll win it. In an odd year like this the best coaches stand out. I believe it was the scab year of 1982 when Shula had the boys ready, one knock down of a pass by theismann was the only thing standing in the way of that title.
I’d say we have a better chance to win the division this year, than any of the last 20. We’ve got enough depth that we don’t have to have all of our ducks lined up to win it, just a few key ones, like our CBs playing clise to what everyone expects, QB play the way it was the last 9 games, some resemblance of a running game/run D.
DeSean Jackson getting backlash from his antisemitic rant on social media, so he offered an apology, that seemed sincere, but did he only do it, because of the backlash?
Is he and many other of these social justice Warriors bigots or do they really care for the bigotry to stop?
You rarely see this type of an apology, it’s good to know some care enough to make it.
Id rather see them atone for their misdoings than apologize. I mean i appreciate a person who has the balls to apologize, but whats really at play is what makes you say it in the first place. Why didn’t your heart catch you before it came out your mouth. Atone for it by turning it into a positive int he long term, and for christs sake, figure out why you said it and fix that so it doesn’t happen again. Shame is a beautiful and humbling tool if allowed to be.
The other question you have to ask yourself when considering an apology, would they have apologized without the backlash. Do they actually feel the error of their ways.
Look Jackson should be able to post or say anything he wants too!
This is still the USA last time I checked.
That doesn’t mean he’s free from the repercussions of his actions. But I’m seeing a horrible trend of people getting fired for their opinion.
If you don’t like what he is saying, don’t support his business / activities.
One thing we should all remember is if you want to be able to say what you want too, everyone has to have that same right!
#let’scancelthecancelculture
Yes, death to PC.
LOL
Good one!
Funny!
Trump’s niece clams Trump paid someone to take the SAT’s for him. Not trying to get all political, but that is the least shocking thing I heard today.
Hearsay, since she likely wasn’t born at the time, but she’s writing a book, so how much stock can we put into that? Everyone trying to get rich off of someone else.
What his niece said. And even if young, she was born and part of the family. She’s not some reporter digging in.
But do you really think Trump wouldn’t do that? Talking the guy who faked TIME man of the year magazine covers about himself, blew them up and had them put up at all his golf courses. Get your first instinct is to doubt, but not like ain’t a history on such.
Of course he did, lol. The only way this would be shocking would be if she claimed he actually took the SATs himself.
If she really wanted to sell books, she should claim he’s a smart guy who aced the SATs on his own. Those are claims no one would believe…well 3/4 of people wouldn’t believe, lol.
His niece said he did it…..but then she was only a kid at the time. But then stories go through families. If true whoever took the test for Trump is the guy who can paid for the story.
In case the first part of my comment wasn’t clear, Stang. I was saying I have no doubt Trump paid someone to take the SATs for him. This doesn’t shock me, lol.
Do you know how many politicians kids went/go to ivy league schools? The worst is Al Gore’s kids all 4 going to ivy league schools. Bidens kids too.
Even if true what’s the difference between cheating on the SAT or getting your kids in based on pay for play like the Clintons did with Chelsea at Stanford?
I have no idea how Gore’s kids got in…… don’t even know their names. I went to a similar school. Like to think earned my way in.
Your Dad wasnt a top politician was he? If not you probably did.
But we are talking about having someone else take your SATs. And Trump’s Dad had connections too. — And yes I got in on my own merits, including the SAT.
There is no difference (except that Trump is ginormous jagoff). The ultra rich or people with connections can cheat their way through these facets of life. We saw the college scandal with hottie from full house (forget the name). That was just a glimpse.
There is no doubt that connections can help a lot at private places. One of my friends when was a frosh had his last name on two buildings. Real nice guy but he shouldn’t have been there. And he wasn’t by end of 2nd year.
Our college system is so jacked up. My wife is working on another stupid degree from ASU. (It’s all online) I say stupid because it’s costing me a fortune. Her tuition went up $200 per unit this semester, I assume because they have to make up for the money they lost due to COVID.
We were already paying something like $3000 per 3 unit class just for tuition. The costs are outrageous. We can afford it, but how is a 20 y/o something working at Starbucks supposed to afford a $600 increase per class? Lol, minor rant over. I just found out today about a few extra grand I’m throwing this school.
Wow – hopefully your wife’s new degree is something you can monetize rather than a course in anti-American radicalization.
Not sure how the autocorrect changed ape to wow
No worries, I find a lot of people who talk to me often start with ‘Wow’. lol
We’ll see. It’d be nice to see a return on the 50g this one will end up costing.
https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1280619916333404166?s=20
Curiously leading tweet of the day!
Maybe it means he is growing up. And getting rid of negative influences in his life.
Hope so???
You don’t need a HS diploma to be President let alone a college degree, but you do need to be rich.
Trivia question???
Back in the early 2000s Coach Dave Wanstadt required the whole team to go see a movie together.
Which movie was that?
Ace Ventura
Tony Sparano took the team to GI Joe
Remember the Titans
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2000-10-09-0010090023-story.html
i was scrolling thru movies on cinema and came across “remember the titans” and rembered that event. i was living west in pembroke pines at the time there is a chillis on pines blvd near my home i was there and wanstadt sat down next to my table was very cordial , when he left the whole place started yelling GO DOLPHINS
That must’ve been so cool. Is his stache as bad in person😉
Wanny, SMH. I liked him, when he was our coach, but man was he a dumb SOB. Those vanilla schemes, like he was still the ‘Boys coach and scheme didn’t matter…
He seems like a really nice dude, good person, i have seen him do a few things outside of football and im pretty impressed by him as a person. Still, smart isn’t one of those things im gonna put high on his positives list. I think he stuck with simple for reasons, but again, he was a HC in the NFL so apparently it worked some of the time, it just cant work long because simple playbooks dont confuse complex defensive or offensive minds.
I’m just to lazy!
I just don’t have the NEED to know this stuff or the WANT to pay him to teach it to me. LOL
Its dependent on how many you have in zone coverage. Ie Cover 2 is two safeties in zone, cover 4 is both safeties and both outside CB’s. Thats the basics of it. Thats what i assume he is talking about with the 1,2,3,4. I wouldn’t pay him to learn something you can learn for free lol, now if he wants to get into some deeper concepts and i was looking to break into the NCAA, maybe i pay him. He is a very smart defensive mind.
Wanstadt had a dumb enough plan that his team was the only dolphin team to win a playoff game in the last 20 years, geez all the coaches since must have been morons! only 2 other dolphin teams made the playoffs in that time, both losing in the first rnd.
i was at our last playoff win, mia vs colts at the joe.
Wasn’t a dumb plan it was just a simple system, there is a big difference. You can win with a simple system, its just not sustainable long term because other coaches figure it out and eventually it doesn’t work anymore.
i disagree, its all about talent, if you have the horses to win the LOS that’s where the games are won and lost.
So you’re saying ORob there’s only one way to skin a cat? We had no horses last year, yet we won 5 games, under your logic how is that possible?
Two of the dumbest coaches I can remember were Wanny and Barry Switzer, they both benefitted from the talent JJ left behind.
Sounds exactly like that modified plan for the Phins that came out before. Have to believe Ravens are just the first.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-top-10-safeties-cornerbacks-in-nfl-marcus-peters-lands-redemption-tyrann-mathieu-steals-the/
We have two in the top 10 according to CBS (on paper) Let’s see them stay healthy and sparkle in real life!
reduced seating capacity at M&T Bank Stadium will be in place of fewer than 14,000 seats per game.
sounds like a typical home game at HRS a few years ago.. 😉
What I found interesting was — “2020 Ravens season tickets will be deferred to 2021.” Instead of parsing them out amongst the season tix holders they are just canceling them. Assume they would be first in line though as far as getting seats with the 14k set-up.
“The Chiefs and Packers have also announced that the capacity at their stadiums will be drastically cut, although neither team gave a specific capacity number like the Ravens.”
Maybe we should have waited???
Football is not that complicated as others make it seem, the goal is to overpower your opponent. once you do that you force your opponent to add resources to the point of attack weakening other areas of your opponent and then you exploit those areas of weakness.
The amount of clear plastic installed in ALL the stores in front of registers and how creatively and quickly it was done astonishes me.
Do you wanna pay him 15M a year, and reward him for not ownering his contract, Leveon Bell style? How’d that work out?
Honoring
What are the odds the Dolphuns rise from 5-11 to the playoffs? What history says. Herald
My history tells me this wasn’t your typical 5-11 team, shouldve been 0-16, then take that talent and turn it into a playoff contender that can use multiple look schemes and stifle an O.
I don’t care what history says.
refer to the 1-15 2007 season and the 11-5 2008 season
Some of y’all thought McCain was decent last year. Here’s an article that’s in line with what I saw (and its Kyle Crabbs, SMH):
McCain was the team’s surprise solution to their free safety dilemma last offseason — transitioning from nickel cornerback to safety for the first time in his career. The results were mixed. Before an injury sent McCain to injured reserve for the second half of the season, his coverage was inconsistent and his tackling was troublesome. How bad was the tackling? McCain was credited with missing 10 tackles last season — equivalent to nearly 30% of his total attempts.
For a player who serves as the “last line of defense”, such a high rate of poor challenges can’t become normalized or accepted. McCain will need to shine better as a tackler and be more instinctive in free coverage if he’s going to be Miami’s long-term solution.
I’m giving Jones every chance possible to be a starter, but we do have other options. % chance McCain is the starter in week 1 15%, week 2 0%.
ocalarob says:
July 9, 2020 at 8:28 am
Football is not that complicated as others make it seem, the goal is to overpower your opponent. once you do that you force your opponent to add resources to the point of attack weakening other areas of your opponent and then you exploit those areas of weakness.
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Im sorry ORob and i mean no disrespect by this, but thats an out dated look at the game, and a very oversimplified look at the chess game that is defensive and offensive scheming. Your system would be very easy to overcome with strategy.
ZBS in itself destroys your theory, because its one where you dont overpower anyone, you actually take a weakness like their ability to over power you in the trenches and remove that power, not the exploitation of a weakness but turning a strength against them.
Thats also what sweeps and quick screens are for against those with run clogging DT’s or certain routes are designed to have the secondary in certain formations ie zone or man, be exploited and usually specifically to get a certain receiver open, while also not tipping off which receiver that is on that play.
Certainly you also exploit weaknesses, but again, thats not the simplified view that your representing, there is more to it than that, and thats what both Steve and i were saying, Wanny lacked that, his systems were too much more straight forward so the intention and the planning of it comes out in the fact that its not disguised or nuanced. It like cracking a code, if it code it simple its easy to crack and most people will crack it.If its not….well then you might win on occasion, but you are going to have sustained success.
I mean if it was as easy as your saying and its all about talent, then you just couldn’t stop a more talented team, and that was easily dis-proven last year. I know there have been eras of football where that was more the case, but even back in the 70’s it was more to it than that.
I see you took the bait. He thought he’d play Wanny today😉
I mean yeah i know, but it kinda bothers me to hear football, possibly one of the greatest games of strategy, broken down into something so i guess mediocre at best. Not that im mad or anything i just really respect the nuances of football, maybe even on an academic level, so its like really dumbing down something, like calling chess, checkers with different pieces lol.
Incidentally, i agree about McCain, i havent liked any of the positions they have tried him in. He handles the slot CB position well, the others, FS wasn’t great, but it was a shit ton better than at outside CB where he was a complete liability.
He gives us a player to where we get more time to eval other players at the spot. He gives us a player who can fill in in a pinch at all the DB positions, though again, hopefully it isn’t long term at any outside of the slot. I think Noah IgMahoganey could make him expendable if he gets in there and shows what i feel like he will be able to, Jones will get his time at S and then next year we might target a FS early to have the same replacement scenario for Rowe, or maybe by then Iggy is a FS after a year in the system and we look to upgrade NCB.
Not sure, a lot more to play out but in general, i dont think McCain is bad, he just isnt strong in all positions, capable, sure, but not strong enough to do anything but flex in an out of the other roles.
Bobby Mac had a shoulder injury last season. Gee, think that may have affected his play, especially his tackling?
I mean i understand that but i dont think he played exceptionally well even given that. I think he looked a bit out of position. He is pretty good at slot CB, it fits his skill set, i just dont think he is the best we can do at S and i think we might have better on the roster. Still i dont expect him to be on the team for much longer, if he stays at S, there is a replacement int he wings, and if he moves to slot CB he probably has a replacement in the wings. Best for him would be for Jones to replace him at S so he can move back to slot CB where he might be able to compete with Iggy.
steveccnv says:
July 9, 2020 at 8:57 am
Do you wanna pay him 15M a year, and reward him for not ownering his contract, Leveon Bell style? How’d that work out?
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Assuming this was a reply to the Mostert thing?
From what i ready he was seeing an equivalent pay to the the teams highest paid RB, so he was only looking for his salary to be adjusted to a 5mil per contract. Its very possible that it could turn into something ugly, but i dont think it will go Leveon Bell ugly.
I mean in some ways i respect what he is doing more than some of the others. The guys came in as an UDFA, gutted his way through several years of bouncing around and trying to get in a position to produce and earn a new contract. He wants something more than just a ST contributor would get, because thats pretty much what he was signed to do before. Now that his role has changed he was trying to renegotiate to a more fair contract for what he was being used for.
In other ways, i get it, you signed a contract, tough it out and catch it on the flip, but given his agree, and given the potential for injury, i also understand why he is striking now.
I personally am satisfied with our RB room as is. When i saw the new thing about him wanting out, i admit i was like well we might wanna look at him, but i dont think the benefit is there, so no reason to give up draft capital or add someone whose use might not match what he wants to be signed to an extension for.
Incidentally, didnt we have him here on the PS for like a blink of an eye?
Thats too many incidentally’s for one day lol,
Yes, that was the talk SB week, both starters played for us. Damien Williams KC.
5M was his 49er price, bet it goes up drastically if traded. Never satisfied. He surely benefitted from their strong run blocking.
oog, take ball, make run
Mongo checker in game of football….
Mongo, Checker, in game of football….even cave man speak need comma
I have a few extra commas if you need them, I buy them in bulk!
LOL, Mongo was precisely the voice in my head.
And I have a rule about commas, sprinkle a few in every sentence or two, doesn’t matter where. Nobody knows all the comma rules anyway except for John Nash, Napoleon Dynamite, and Rain Man.
Kong – Pretty sure I’ve been doing that, or something like that with commas. What I actually do is imagine I’m saying this out loud, and put commas in every place I would pause. The Insane Guide to Using Commas. lol
I do the same thing with the pauses. I know some of the easier rules governing their use before conjunctions with independent clauses and the like, but other than those few exceptions I just scattershot them. lol
Tends to work out better more than less.
i think wanstedts problem was the loss of ricky, he’s still the most successful coach in dolphins history post 2000, and oh BTW wasn’t Wanstedts dumb vanilla offense run by none other than Chan Gailey ?
in one breath you think we are a good team and in the other breath you are saying our offensive coordinator has a dumb vanilla offense???
GO FIGURE?
we didn’t say offense or defense.
steveccnv says:
July 8, 2020 at 10:02 am
Wanny, SMH. I liked him, when he was our coach, but man was he a dumb SOB. Those vanilla schemes,
Vanilla schemes, on which side though, or was it overall game plan. I just think he ran a simplified system, Wanny was a D guy, but im sure the offensive scheme was at least partially his thing since it has to marry with the defensive scheme.
I think we can leave it at, he had a successful year, and *signing* “They cant take that away from me!” Wanny is the Ryan Tannehill to your Tim Knight!.
Nobody knows all the comma rules anyway except for John Nash, Napoleon Dynamite, and Rain Man.
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Scary, but in some respects, those guys do overlap.
Chan Gailey will spread’m out and run over them, when they add resources to stop the run he will kill them over the top.
very simple
Maybe, im not sure what he’s planning on, but whatever it is it will be what Flores wanted when he changed OC’s. I do know that it was reported that he felt like whats his name was too simple, so it will at least be more complex than that. I dont think Chan is his long term plan at the spot either, more transitional.
Well since we have the same OC as we did back in the Wanny days what you’re really saying is we will not have success with our current offensive plan.
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July 9, 2020 at 9:46 am
ocalarob says:
July 9, 2020 at 8:28 am
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Im sorry ORob and i mean no disrespect by this, but thats an out dated look at the game, and a very oversimplified look at the chess game that is defensive and offensive scheming. Your system would be very easy to overcome with strategy.
Wanny lacked that, his systems were too much more straight forward so the intention and the planning of it comes out in the fact that its not disguised or nuanced. you are going to have sustained success.
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You are right, thats a possibility. See my above statements though, its either he and Flores have discussed something different with what he will want him to do this time, or he is a temporary piece. The Patriot way has always been Complex from the simple, so a handful of formations but a lot of different designs out of the same formation.Its deliberate to disguise the intention of the play. Its smart, and i think its what we will be looking to do. I could be wrong, they might just throw people at each other and win with might over mental, but that doesn’t resonate with me as who Flores is.
I still stand by my statement that i feel a more complex system works out best long term. Its much more geared at everyone doing their job correctly though, so it can get derailed by the wrong players.Again, i like Wanny, i think a lot of him and like ya said he is the best success we have had with recent coaching, still its why wee only had that one year, and yeah there are a lot of other factors, losing Ricky certainly was one, but come down to it, what seemed to me was people just figured us out. Better than Joe im a neurotic on the field, Philbin or Crazy eyes Adam Gase. I probably put Wanny and Sparano on the same level to be honest, both simple system, both good coaches of men, both limited success with us, both very simple systems.
“I’ll probably be sticking with football and video games for now.”
—- Pat Mahomes on the long list of physical activities his new contract prohibits.
Making friends and influencing people!
LMAO
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR4EzMSEezW8J-pQP06ReYiYso-s8tb33PNHw&usqp=CAU
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I give up ….. but that was good.
What did you do? Teach me to fish.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2020/07/09/nfl-bans-postgame-jersey-swaps-reveals-mask-policy-coronavirus/3286967001/
i haven’t seen anything about putting the players in a bubble during the season. I can’t see how this will be successful if they don’t do that, but locking them down for 5-6 months doesn’t seem viable either.
They lock them down for camp anyhow, but yeah doing that the whole season would be tough. Have families. Same time — ship captains do it.
I’m very curious to see what the NFL solution is. We’re nearly there.
stangerx says:
July 9, 2020 at 2:50 pm
What did you do? Teach me to fish.
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It has to end in .jpg or .bpn of any other APP
I can’t have any of the other stuf, like Small or Large or a bunch of numbers
I knew about the jpg but not the other. Did you cut that one to the end of the second “tbn”? Sorry to sound like an idiot on this stuff, but exactly what I am. Thanks.
It was the same pic you posted from a different site.
I usually don’t have to much luck trying to cut them down!
Well I tried to just copy the text?
But it picked up the link anyway???
You are still like a tech— savvy 10-year-old to me today. 🙂
Thanks for the assist and advice.
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1281303990546948096?s=20
If they do that most the other conferences will likely follow suit, which means a lot of the smaller schools wont get their pay day games though.
they will get over it!
It will make for better football overall!
I mean i agree with that, though i think its going to me fewer games. There will probably be more bye weeks.
Saw something where the NFL is asking the player to basically take a pay cut to offset the loss of revenues for less people in the stadiums. Basically i think they are saying they will do a furlough type thing like they did with a lot of job, paying them 2/3’s of their salaries. One thing is they arent not having the game, and in the case of most people who were furloughed they were asked to be at work in conditions that might not be safe. Thats not going over well at all. Lots of players piled on with a collective WTF.
Not having less games i meant.
Baseball went through the same kind of thing. Turned into a real hissy fit for a while.
ocalarob says:
July 7, 2020 at 9:40 pm
Trivia question???
Back in the early 2000s Coach Dave Wanstadt required the whole team to go see a movie together.
Which movie was that?
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The Flying Pig says:
July 7, 2020 at 9:52 pm
Ace Ventura
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son of a son of a shula says:
July 7, 2020 at 10:44 pm
Tony Sparano took the team to GI Joe
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ocalarob says:
July 8, 2020 at 12:41 am
Remember the Titans
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Is it funny to anyone else that no one actually did “remember” that?
Talk about a movie not living up to it’s name
Football in 2020
That actually might be a neat twist on things lol. Going to guess though, not a lot of receiving yards and definately will change the dynamic of handing the ball off to the runner. QB would have to be damn accurate to rainbow it in to the opening from longer distances.
Not a lot of chasing a guy down from behind though either because when you try to make the tackle you might actually launch him into the endzone.
Fuck it, i think i convinced myself, this is the football i want!
The best way to make a tackle
OMG!! GUYS! COMMAS ARE CRITICAL!
Let’s Eat, Grandma.
Let’s Eat Grandma.
So is proper capitalization
Timmy, help your Uncle Jack off his horse.
Timmy, help your uncle jack off his horse.
imagine I’m saying this out loud, and put commas in every place I would pause.
Except you don’t put one before and
Isn’t that one called the Oxford comma? I’m totally against it and it looks ridiculous.
Yeah that’s the Oxford comma, and I don’t like it either
Sounds like we might be working on a trade for OBJ or thats whats being reported.
Could just be more talky talk though, when ya search for it you get rumors all over the place about different places.
Never mind, i know i might have made some poop stains for it, but its looking like speculation at this point, the source said “if he starts having a poor season” so it seems they are suggesting a trade before trade deadline, and not right now and if thats true, its pure speculation.
Sorry to those that soiled your panties.
Sounds like bullshit but he didn’t seem too happy in Cleveland despite Landry being there.
Him and Parker would be hell on a secondary.
Didn’t see happy in NY either!
Hope everyone had a good 4th weekend. I decided to take a respite from being online.
Good for you!
I’m getting ready to do it again myself!
I understand Tim, shit is pretty volatile and sometimes it’s not just the other person, it’s me.
Nobody really listens to each other. They insult each other based on opinions and now they’re literally throwing stones at each other. It’s fuckin insane. The radicals on both sides control the dialogue while most people regardless of their political ideology simply go about their lives. The middle, moderates/centrists or whatever you want to call them, need to step up and squash this nonsense.
Nope, no one is listening at all, and it’s crazy how some people have simplified their views as “If you support this or don’t support this then we can’t be friends” Yeah, well good luck with your five asshole friends that agree with you! lol
People are drawing lines in the sand all over the place and it’s comical. We don’t all think the same and thank goodness for that. It’s OK to feel differently, that’s what half of the shit these people argue for is all about. I think it’s exactly like that meme that Wyo put up here a couple of weeks ago with Buzz Lightyear telling Woody “They don’t want to hear your opinion, they want to hear their’s coming out of your mouth” It’s fucked man, it really is.
Tim
What was life without the internet like?
I imagine it’s like the main character in Metallica’s One video
Perfect! LOL
But not quite. I saw a lot of family and friends and we all practiced the let’s not get each other sick stuff. 🙂
Johnny Got His Gun
Phelon’s got his guns
Things you know now that you didn’t in 2019?
Onions don’t fit in a masked society! 😉
LOL, Every time I eat at a restaurant now, and put on my mask to walk around / leave I can smell my breath / face and am offended by it. Now, I wash my hands before and after the meal AND wash my face after the meal too. LOL
I had to shave my Covid beard too. No matter how careful I was putting food in my mouth I could smell it in my beard later and it was gross.
ewwww
Im a tech person and there are things that the internet did to really do some good stuff, BUT there is at least a one to one relationship with shit it either made worse or did that was bad. I dont know if i can say its 2 to 1, but i feel its higher than one to one.
Let me rephrase, that humans used it for good, and bad, the internet itself didnt do any of it. We just regressed as decent people.
The internet makes it appear as if all voices are equal, so even the least coming denominator gets “legitimacy”.
*common
Lame Stream Media:
Pork bias
So pigs are being saddled? How do they no we don’t have gripes with possumkind?
possum lives matter!
Was just looking at the class of RB’s next year and its a pretty stacked group. No need to add more to the roster. this group is good until we loop around to draft next year.
Mike, totally agree with what you said in reply to my post from last night. Insanity!
NBA is getting ready to open up in a couple weeks….. am I ever looking forward to live sports. Same time if teams get a Covid outbreak…… that’s about it. They are protecting about as much as you can.
Nope