Secondary to none

Xavien Howard at Left Cornerback, Byron Jones at Right Cornerback. Bobby McCain at Free Safety and Eric Rowe at Strong Safety. I believe this is our best secondary in a long time. Both Howard and Jones can be lockdown corners. Howard has the INT’s but Jones is regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL and shuts down the receivers he’s on. A healthy Bobby McCain this season will be better than he was last year struggling with a shoulder injury. Eric Rowe who has played a lot of different positions much like McCain, really seemed to find himself at Strong Safety. I thought he played his best ball there and his elite athleticism is a big plus at safety.

We drafted another CB who will likely be our slot and nickel corner in RD1 pick #30, Noah Igbinoghene (Iggy Mahogany). Those 5 guys in addition to up and comers like Nik Needham, Stevie Parker, Ken Webster and Ryan Lewis makes our depth legitimate. At safety we have 3 young vets who provide nice depth in Clay Fejedelem, Adrian Colbert and Kavon Frazier and a very promising rookie who may end up rising to the top of the depth chart before long in Brandon Jones. Add in a CB who at one time seemed like a potential starter in Cordrea Tankersley. Tank started 11 games in 2017 replacing Byron Maxwell who we picked up from Philly. Tank definitely showed promise in 2017 but suffered a season ending ACL injury in 2018. He was placed on the PUP in 2019 while recovering but couldn’t make it back last year. This is Tank’s final year on his contract so I expect he will be looking to crack the lineup to get himself another contract next year either here or elsewhere.

Having two shutdown corners should make a huge difference for our defense. We all know we’ve struggled to get to the QB the last few years but the additions we made this offseason in both free agency (Kyle Van Noy, ShaqLawson, Emmanuel Ogbah) as well as in the draft (Raekwon Davis, Curtis Weaver, Jason Strowbridge) will give us a lot more juice in the pass rush department. Pairing that potentially dominant secondary with an upgraded pass rush could yield excellent results from our defense. I don’t about all of you people here, I’m really looking forward to seeing this defense grow this year!



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1,358 Responses to Secondary to none

  1. Rockphin says:

    I am going to start off Friday night with an old classic

  2. Rockphin says:

    HA ! Right on the Turn!

  3. Rockphin says:

    D says:
    July 24, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    Also, i have to admit their helmet is much cooler. Guess i should have spent a few more years in college…..

    I don’t know about that D. I think yours is cooler. Theirs has a snowflake in the middle of the mask (go back a page and look at the image again) and i hate snowflakes.

  4. CavalierKong says:

    I’d rather finance the getaway car than pay for her to spend the next 20 years in jail, but you make valid points nonetheless. It was mostly just a cathartic release post anyway, lol.

  5. Rockphin says:

    AHHHHHHH you really have me LOLing Cav.

  6. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t know if you guys have figured out how to smile behind your masks to let strangers know you mean them no harm and are a friendly

    But I’ve personally changed my approach

    No more smiles

    Now, when I see a stranger on the street and I want to greet them I do a little dance

  7. Rockphin says:

    Who knew Bob Ross also played guitar with Kansas!? LOL

  8. wyoming85 says:

  9. The Flying Pig says:

    Also, this is how I encourage social distancing

  10. Rockphin says:

    Piggy, I never smiled at strangers before wearing a mask….why would I need to start now.

  11. Rockphin says:

    me smiling at pretty girls

  12. Rockphin says:

    When I see you smile…….

  13. stangerx says:

    Gotta love a good tune that includes “the Dolphins make me cry” and a vid with Marino. 🙂

  14. 13kvFINS says:

    Rock & Pigg Tooo Funny

  15. son of a son of a shula says:


  16. bailbondmike says:

    Meant to post this last night. Dude is a rapper “Jelly Roll” but can also sing his ass off.

  17. stangerx says:

    Was checking out the page for my old high school wrestling team — and man do I not agree with this. And the now head coach who wrote this was one of my old wrestlers when was captain. After I left he did real well…. but not buying this.
    “The philosophy of our team is that we are part of the education of the whole person. While we have had alums wrestle in college, many of our wrestlers enter our program with minimal or no experience. We do not differentiate between the Varsity and JV teams. We are one program, and we try to get as many wrestlers into the Varsity lineup as we can during the course of the season.”

    • ElephantRider says:

      Participation trophies in wrestling? Is that what he’s really saying?

      Some of those kids are gonna get murdered on the mat. Lol

      • stangerx says:

        When I was there and you wanted onto varsity you went up to the coach and demanded a challenge match. Whoever won while the whole team watched got the spot. Blows my mind. Only guessing they throw the other kids in when know will win the match anyhow……. or at least hoping.

      • wyoming85 says:

        We actually had more matches in a season than you were allowed to have.
        so the Varsity did get to sit once in awhile.

        Usually when the coach new the JV guy could win!

      • stangerx says:

        wyoming — that would be a technicality . 🙂

  18. wyoming85 says:

    Welcome to Miami!

  19. Rockphin says:

    I love that Jamal Adams is pissed off about his pay and is torching the Jets and Gase.

    Jamal, you would love the culture here in Miami.

  20. ElephantRider says:


    Just my opinion, but seems just handing things to people doesn’t really help them in the long run. What in the world is happening out here nowadays. I’ll leave it at that. Lol

    • stangerx says:

      You think I don’t agree ER? Almost wanted to send the coach an e-mail, but sorta of thinking he didn’t like my own philosophy when was his captain right now. 🙂

      • ElephantRider says:

        We are on same page. My disclaimer was to not have someone else read it and turn into a political shitstorm. Lol

  21. stangerx says:

    RIP Regis….. was hard not to like the guy.

  22. Rockphin says:

    I hope you guys in TX are north and not in the potential flood area from Hanna. Florida boy says stay safe.

    • stangerx says:

      “The Seahawks will send safety Bradley McDougald, first-round picks in 2021 and 2022 and a third-round pick in 2021 to New York in exchange for Adams and the Jets’ fourth-round pick in 2022.” — That’s a lot of chips. Especially since the Jets will most likely have picks in the top half of the first…. or would have had.

    • Mike E. says:

      They can’t be happy they had to trade whom might be their best player but they sure got a nice haul for him.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Seahawks are in a very tough division and it looks like they’re going to try to make a run with an aging Carroll and Wilson in his prime.

      The Jets don’t seem to have a plan which is Gase’s MO. He’s supposed to be an offensive guru and he wasn’t in Miami and the Jets were last in offense last season. LOL

    • CavalierKong says:

      Gase is a clown, but I actually think the Jest came out on top in that deal. It won’t matter while Gase HC though, because he’ll just trade those 1st rd pick players a year after they get there, lol.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The Jets got good compensation but do Gase and Co. have a real plan heading into year two? Darnold better be their guy in year three. Can’t wait to hear Joe Benigno on Monday. LOL

  23. CavalierKong says:


    When do the Pirates get to St Louis? They know they have a series against the Cards, right? 😉

  24. wyoming85 says:

  25. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t remember who asked? But here it is

  26. wyoming85 says:

  27. bailbondmike says:

    Cav, never mind. I see they are leading div at 2-0. Hoping Reds keep pace.

  28. steveccnv says:

    Per Pro Football Talk, the Dolphins are trading a conditional sixth-round draft pick in exchange for tight end and former second-round draft pick Adam Shaheen. Shaheen was selected by the Chicago Bears with the 45th overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft and was the highest draft pick ever selected from Ashland University.

    Since entering the league, Shaheen has been a relative bust considering his draft status, though when on the field, he’s flashed with potential here and there. The biggest problem is that Shaheen has trouble actually staying on the field. The hulking tight end missed three games in his rookie season and went on to only play in 16 of 32 games over the past two years.

    In the 2017 NFL season, Shaheen played in 13 games and started seven. He brought in 12 receptions on 14 targets for 127 yards and three touchdowns. Over the course of occasional appearances during the past two seasons, Shaheen added 14 receptions on 19 targets for 122 yards and one score.

  29. wyoming85 says:

    PFF MIA Dolphins
    Shaheen has caught 29 of 36 targets with 0 drops in his 3 year career, and earned a career high 70.6 pass blocking grade in 2019.

    The #Dolphins add some TE depth behind Mike Gesicki

  30. CavalierKong says:

    LOL @ Stang

  31. CavalierKong says:


    With a short season like this anything can happen. The DH in the NL also changes things up. Also teams will only play games inter-league and in the their division, so when playoffs roll around the teams playing will be meeting for the first time. Should be interesting.

    Stang, your boys will have plenty of chances for some payback, starting tomorrow.

  32. Tim Knight says:

    Gotta love how Flores and Grier are going about rebuilding this team. It’s all about winning jobs to make a “team” great.

  33. Mike E. says:

    I can’t believe how many Dolphins fans are now saying Grier didn’t get enough for Minkah. I mean WTF!!! What did Minkah do in aqua and orange besides whine that he was being played out of position? How can you compare Minkah to Adams?

    • Tim Knight says:


    • ocalarob says:

      we got his services for the time he was here and we may have dropped 8 spots from where we drafted him. the bottom line he didn’t fit Flores scheme, it wasn’t an out of the ball park trade for miami but i think grier did good considering.

  34. New Age says:

    Jets won big time in that exchange but they lost talent this next year and should have a top 5 pick for 2021. I doubt Gase survives but Douglas may get them some good picks for the next guy. If not, Gase will bring down another Jets GM two years from now.

    I’m hearing from a few people of an interesting scenario of the Jets trying to get tools for Lawrence. if available. I don’t believe it but I’d love if they switched QBs every 3 years. Ilike Lawrence too much to see him in gag green but it’s a fun scenario either way.

  35. ocalarob says:

    adams to seattle for two 1st rnders!
    i like the fact that miami didn’t bite on this deal, we seem to be hoarding our draft picks which is a good thing.

  36. The Flying Pig says:

    It’s not that we didn’t get enough for Minkah
    It’s that the Seahawks just paid too much for Adams
    Two first rounders, a 3rd and a player is too much

    • Mike E. says:

      Adams may be the best safety in the NFL. He’s definitely top 3. MInkah when we traded him was nowhere near that, certainly not by his play for the Dolphins.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Yeah I would say pound for pound Adams is significantly better

        But it’s not always easy to evaluate that with your players like Minkah

        Regardless, I’m not giving up two first round picks for a safety

    • steveccnv says:

      The 3rd was offset by a 4th Seattle gets back, but yeah way too much comp for a guy you’re going to have to pay big time in 2 years. He’s also a cancer.

      From Game Pass I remember Adam’s blowing a coverage, leaving Preston wide open for an easy TD.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He wants to be the highest paid safety in the nfl

        He probably deserves to be – but if Seattle isn’t ready to do that, don’t give up 1st rounders for him

  37. Mike E. says:

    Seattle defense has consistently thrived with having good safety play. They had Earl Thomas for years as well as Kam Chancellor. This allows them to get right back to that

  38. wyoming85 says:

  39. stangerx says:

    No preseason games…… doesn’t that mean should be lots more cuts? The maximum you can have on the rosters is just that…… the maximum. And now they don’t to play a bunch of games while the starters (or even the back-ups) are on the bench.

    When it comes time for live action in practice who much is looking for that diamond in the rough worth versus just getting the team ready to play?

  40. stangerx says:

    Glad baseball i back but the fake fans are a little creepy.

  41. CavalierKong says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    July 26, 2020 at 11:34 am

    He wants to be the highest paid safety in the nfl

    He probably deserves to be – but if Seattle isn’t ready to do that, don’t give up 1st rounders for him

    Exactly right. If you give that much up to acquire a player and lose him a year or two later, you made a very bad deal. (I think it’s a bad deal anyway, but that would be infinitely worse.) So now Adams now has the same leverage Tunsil had after his trade.

    I’m betting Seattle isn’t as stupid as O’Brien though. They probably already have the parameters of a contract worked out and we’ll see a new deal inked shortly giving Adams what he wants.

    • stangerx says:

      A Tunsil trade is exactly what it is. On both those trades though I’m like why not just wait till he’s a FA. You’ll either be paying him the same money then or not if someone goes bigger.

  42. wyoming85 says:

  43. Mike E. says:

    Right on Bookman!

  44. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think the Safety position is worth that kind of compensation. They simply don’t impact the game enough. Adams is a good player but he’s not all that. But like I said yesterday I think Seattle is going all in to win now.

  45. stangerx says:

    Maybe Lou went to Magic City with his grandpa.

    “Los Angeles Clippers star Lou Williams will be required to complete a 10-day quarantine upon arrival back in the NBA bubble in Orlando, Florida, the league announced Sunday. Williams left the site on an excused absence after his grandfather died, but was photographed at Magic City, a strip club in Atlanta. He said he was picking up food.”

  46. ocalarob says:

    I thought Gaileys offense didn’t use TEs, could Smythe be gone? a weird trade late in the off season

    • Tim Knight says:

      Gailey really doesn’t have a particular offense. He’s adaptable and that’s what Flores wants. I think we want to be run heavy – screens to the backs and then strike down the field.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I think it’s also about competition at that 2nd spot. We have a lot of room to improve there, so even if this is just a minor improvement, we’re still getting better and if we keep both, adding depth.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Agreed. This team is still hunting for talent. A former 2017 2nd rd pick for a 2021 conditional 7th is a no brainer.

  47. CavalierKong says:

    After just 3 games in the MLB (and only 2 for the Braves and Mets), every team in the league has at least one loss and one win.

  48. wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv says:

      Ok, even better than the conditional 6th they said it was yesterday. He can play, he’s just been injured for almost half his 3 year career.

      Good trade, we were thin at TE, and don’t care about 7th rounders.

      I just assumed the rumor that Chan doesn’t use his TEs much was true and why we didn’t upgrade it this offseason.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s early in the process with our TEs. Gesicki is the guy who has to build on the second half of last season. The other guys need to earn their roles. We did add Michael Roberts as well. But we’re also in a weird offseason as we know so who knows how long it will take to figure these guys out as well as other positions.

  49. steveccnv says:

    After watching recent videos from the Greise years, he was not the game manager I remembered him to be. He had as much to do with us winning those 2 SBs as anyone else.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He made big throws when needed even if he didn’t throw often. Those Dolphins teams were great “teams”. They won in all types of ways. That’s what I think Flores is trying to do here. Be able to win games based on opponent, not doing the same thing for every team each week.

  50. CavalierKong says:

    LOL @ ‘picking up food’ at the strip club.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I went to a strip club in NJ called Satin Dolls aka Bada Bing many years ago with a friend of mine. I ordered a cheesesteak which was delicious, but two bites into it a gorgeous girl starts doing her thing in front of me and I totally lost my appetite. All I wanted to do was… well you know. LOL

      • CavalierKong says:

        I went a few times when I was younger, I don’t think food ever entered into the equation, but if it did, it was quickly rendered immaterial.

      • Tim Knight says:

        My friend said lets go get some lunch. Strip clubs are not my thing. It’s a huge tease.

      • steveccnv says:

        Nada Bing was the strip club from the Sopranos.

  51. Tim Knight says:

    Yes Bada Bing is the strip club in the Sopranos. It’s on route 17 in NJ aka Satin Dolls.

  52. son of a son of a shula says:

    Steve, it’s Bada Bing not Nada Bing in Sopranos. If you look closely at the sign when they show it on the show both B’s have nipples.

  53. wyoming85 says:

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Good news

      • steveccnv says:

        It would appear so, but who the hell knows? I hear 95% of the population is ammune to it, so would we be better off to just expose the team now and be done with it, and have the entire team quarantined from the outside? Before quarantine can be complete retest all and anyone still positive would be isolated. This could’ve been done a long time ago.

  54. steveccnv says:

    Durval Queiroz Neto gets a roster exemption, so including him and Shaheen we’re at 83 players, just need to cut 2 by mid August.

  55. steveccnv says:

    Now they’re saying the Shaheen trade is a conditional 7th, but 6th cond, 7th, 7th cond doesn’t really matter, what matters is we have a 2nd rd talent with an NFL body ready to compete.

    Keep bringing in upgrades Grier, and let Flores settle the rest.

  56. Mike E. says:

    Both I and my wife tested negative but both have bad stomach issues, I’ve had them for over a week now. I’m sure it’s COVID-19, stomach viruses don’t linger this long. Amazing that we both tested negative though, just goes to show you how imperfect the testing is.

  57. Mike E. says:

    Kong – I have a friend who was so against MLB starting the season. Now he’s doing a doom and gloom cha-cha because he thinks this will end the season. I’m starting to hate this guy because he’s over the top far left. He invited my wife and I to his Halloween party, he makes a big thing out of Halloween, goes all out. Somehow in conversation it came out that I voted for Trump and he flipped his shit. He was like “How could you????” “Why??????”. Then the other day he put up a post on FB about the Yankees and Nationals holding the black cloth for BLM and how happy he was about the show of unity. I said to him “you’re happy with the show of unity, but that doesn’t happen if they’re not playing”.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Yeah, there isn’t a lot of rationale in conversations like that. About half the people I know, I just can’t talk to because they are too closed minded about this stuff. My wife’s parents are so pro-Trump we can’t discuss anything because all conversations inevitably lead to either Trump or how minorities are ruining the country.

      And to be honest, even with my wife, who is devastatingly intelligent, and whom I love dearly, I can’t get her to admit a single one of Trump’s policies or any single thing he’s done is a positive thing (usually when I try it’s his stance on China which is one of the few things he’s done I agree with). For her, it’s always, “if he did something positive for the country, it was incidental, because ultimately everything he does is for himself”. Even if I agree with that sentiment, can’t we at least agree that the stance is right?

      But we don’t need to look any further than this board. Try to get some of the people on here to admit ANYTHING any liberal or democrat does is right or moral. Some of the conspiracy theories that get tossed out here, how do you talk with that and try to find middle ground? i don’t know the answer.

      There are few people in the middle on any of this stuff, and it’s nearly impossible to find anyone who can talk about it rationally.

    • stangerx says:

      Old saying is never discuss politics or religion in social situations. Can’t stick by that 100% but it’s an old saying for a reason. I mean does anyone think they are actually going to change minds? If you can’t why bother?

      • D says:

        Shouldn’t be attempting to change minds, minds are changed by the person who owns that mind. Your discussion should be to offer a different viewpoint for them to digest as they see fit or even refuse. Arguments are never truly won, could be settled by a non-biased 3rd party if you can find one, but otherwise its just posing food for thought and letting a persons reason do the rest.

  58. CavalierKong says:

    And you want to talk crazy. We’ve had protesters in Sacramento chaining themselves up outside of the Governors mansion in a protest to free prisoners because of COVID.

    Their chant is “Free them all”.

    Are you f%^&ing kidding me? Free all the prisoners? Huh?

    • D says:

      I heard that back in April over in the New Orleans area, same deal, COVID outbreak in the prison and they were wanting all prisoners freed. Ime like umm, so freed instead of just fucking moved to a different facility or quarantined, releasing infected criminals back into the public sounds like a much better solution lol.

    • stangerx says:

      Can’t expect chants to always make literal sense. I’m sure most protestors don’t want to literally have no money go to police or last election Trump rally folks have Hillary locked up.

      • steveccnv says:

        Bad analogy. Locking up Hillary makes perfect literal sense. She broke the law and should go to prison for her email mess. I wont even get into her quid pro quo or Clinto Cash.

        But I agree we shouldn’t talk politics.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — didn’t think Hillary would get locked up even if convicted on the server stuff given way such things work out in the legal system. But as is she was never even charged by Trump’s DOJ and he’s the one who said would lock her up. So guess we’ll never know.

      • steveccnv says:

        The point was it does make literal sense, not if she should be locked up.

      • stangerx says:

        Fair enough steve — they literally might want it but it practically cannot happen. Just like am sure those Trump rally folks literally wanted Mexico to pay for the wall. My only point was chants don’t always match up to the real world.

      • steveccnv says:

        Nobody thought Mexico was literaly going to pay for the wall. It was always meant to be an indirect method, which happened in the USMCA trade deal.

      • stangerx says:

        There you go steve — the folks chanting the chant did not take it literally. Full circle to where I started.

  59. stangerx says:

    Maybe Lou Williams did go to that strip club just to pick up some food. The wings there are called the Louwill Lemon Pepper BBQ wings. Have a feeling Lou had been there before though.

  60. bailbondmike says:

    Man, I must have went to some shady strip clubs back in the day. Only food I can remember was Slim Jim’s or pickled eggs. Of course, what do you expect to find around military bases like Camp Lejeune, NC. LOL

    • D says:

      BBM ya got one in Pcola thats has an all you can eat lunch buffet, or at least it did while i lived there. Babes over off Davis Hwy between Brent and Fairfield.

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s not my thing, but I’m sure there’s plenty of clubs here where you can get anything you want😉

    • stangerx says:

      BBM — not sure about this one, but Atlanta has some real upscale joints. During school one of my buddies and I cruised though Atlanta on a cross-country trip. Thought I’d landed in a strange new wonderful world. All the places up in CT were dives. Went to the ATM like 3 times.

  61. The Flying Pig says:

    In my neighborhood in nyc we have adjusted to a lot of outdoor dining spots since about Memorial Day

    My neighborhood has been particularly bad about violations (too many people in the street)

    But that said, there’s a lot of restaurants doing well right now bc people are flocking to them after being depraved for months

    And one of the strip clubs set up and outside portion (for dining)
    It’s funny bc the bars/restaurants have set up little borders on the streets
    But the strip club is using really large plants, as their border so that people can’t see what is going on from the outside or the street

    But on the entrenacd you can see right in
    And it appears to be just people dining surrounded by really curvy women in spandex

    It’s kind of a makeshift hooters atmosphere

    I don’t know if the food is any good
    I don’t really see the point when there are other very good restaurants in the neighborhood

    I just thought it was funny

    Strip cubs have to survive too I guess

  62. CavalierKong says:

    I guess we just have a different quality of club out here.

    Fun fact for anyone traveling in NorCal, if you’re looking for decent food, don’t go to a strip club, lol.

  63. Mike E. says:

    Kong – I hear ya on your earlier post. I admit myself to being pretty pig headed on certain things and I also admit that when I speak of the far left I’m thinking in my head that they are ALL a bunch of fucktards when it’s probably only 99% of them. 😉

    • D says:

      I think thats best for everyone, he fits their system and without Brieda they really needed him not to set their offense back.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, once they traded Breida, his leverage increased, both sides were smart about it and they got the deal done.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Some interesting tidbits from the article:

      -If a player tests positive and is showing symptoms, at least 10 days must pass since the symptoms first occurred and at least 72 hours must have passed since symptoms last occurred. This likely means that such a player will miss at least two games.

      -If a player tests positive but is not showing symptoms, he can return either 10 days after the positive test or in just five days, if the player tests negative twice.

      “Last week, the NFLPA announced that 59 players had tested positive for the coronavirus at some point during the pandemic, and league and team officials reportedly are expecting many more positive tests as players arrive for training camp. Players must have two negative tests over a 72-hour time frame to be allowed into team facilities, after which they will be tested daily for at least two weeks.”

      • Mike E. says:

        If someone tests positive and then tests negative in less than 5 days twice, one or more of those tests are WRONG! I still can’t believe that both my wife and I tested negative when we’re both experiencing typical COVID symptoms for over a week. I really don’t want to go to the Instacare place again to retest because I don’t want to get anyone else sick and even if I test positive, which I should, I’m still going to feel the same physically regardless.

      • CavalierKong says:

        That was my first thought too, as you and I have both talked about this week, those tests can be wrong.

        There is your story and also my coworker’s nephew story. Multiple tests administered by hospital staff after he was admitted came back as false negatives, and only after they took water directly from his lungs did they get the positive.

        Maybe the NFL gets the super secret, nananana poopoo, ours are better than yours tests, lol.

  64. Mike E. says:

    Picked a nice day to empty out my son’s apartment in Hoboken. Nothing like running up and down the stairs with heavy shit when it’s 97 degrees!

  65. CavalierKong says:

  66. Mike E. says:

    Saw that this morning, panicked because it looked he was wearing a sling

  67. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    July 27, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    Picked a nice day to empty out my son’s apartment in Hoboken. Nothing like running up and down the stairs with heavy shit when it’s 97 degrees!
    Heacy stuff, stairs, and loose bowels, not pretty.

  68. bailbondmike says:

    D, Babes is still here. Never been to any strip clubs here though.

    • D says:

      Not a big fan of them anyways, fro same reasons Tim mentioned, but i have been to them with friends. Babes and Sammy’s in PCola. Both had some really pretty girls though. Neither are scummy places at least.

  69. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Kong and NFL tests

  70. Ken says:

    12 Marlins and 2 office personnel test positive in a non contact sport. I hate to say it but how the hell are they going to play football?

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s not looking good.

    • D says:

      Put them all in a quarantine for the entire season lol. Rent out a hotel and everyone stays there, bring their families in, whatever but no one comes or goes. Miserable 17+ weeks, but they are making millions instead of losing out on it.

  71. stangerx says:

    Damn — and we have 2 boxes of surgical gloves.
    The CDC and the European CDC have both released guidelines stating that glove use isn’t a necessary preventive tactic when it comes to COVID-19. CDC guidelines say gloves “will not necessarily protect you from getting COVID-19 and may still lead to the spread of germs.”
    Gloves can trick the wearer into complacency, said Allison Bartlett, associate medical director of the Infection Control Program Pediatric at the University of Chicago. She said gloves are not a substitute for good hand hygiene.

    “I think that disposable surgical gloves don’t really have a place in coronavirus (protection). People get the false sense of security that their hands are clean and protected when that’s not the case at all.”

    In preventing the spread of COVID-19, it’s important to focus on what works. “It’s all that we can do to redirect people’s energy, anxiety and wanting to keep themselves and others safe to the activities we know are really impactful — like staying home, wearing a mask when you’re out in public, washing your hands and keeping frequently touched surfaces clean.“

    • D says:

      The virus can remain on the surface of the gloves. So while it protects your hands from being in contact with the virus, it wont protect you from transferring the virus to other surfaces and you have to be careful how you take them off not to transfer it from the glove to your hand, defeating the purpose. So helpful, sure, but you still have to be careful not to touch your face, etc.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Gloves help when you’re touching shopping carts etc., how could it not? Nothing is getting on your hands. It’s not difficult to take them off properly. Then wash your hands anyway.

  72. stangerx says:

    Adam Beasley@AdamHBeasley
    NEWS from the Dolphins: They have have awarded CB Javaris Davis from Kansas City and have waived TE Michael Roberts. We have also placed the following players on the reserve/COVID-19 list: LS Blake Ferguson, DT Benito Jones and CB Cordrea Tankersley.

  73. bailbondmike says:

    I had a nurse from Baptist Hospital come in to bond her brother out yesterday. I wore a mask but she didn’t. She asked me if I wanted her to wear one but told her if she didn’t want to that it was fine. I asked her about the # of COVID patients as that is her main job right now is caring for COVID patients. She said they are not overwhelmed like the local news likes to report. Said the only worry she has about catching it is missing work but has no worries if she does catch it. She also told me the number of positive results is overblown. She is not certain if it is everywhere, but says they test inpatients numerous times while they are in the hospital but each positive result is reported or counted as a new positive test/case. She said one patient was tested 8 times (all positive) while in the hospital and each one was counted in the numbers as a new positive case by the lab. Says it is the same with testing sites. People will test positive and quarantine at home then a few days later have no symptoms get tested again but it comes back positive again. Even though it is the same person, it is counted in the numbers as another new positive case.

  74. CavalierKong says:


    I usually just wear 16 or 17 layers of gloves, and take them off one at a time when I go from place to place.

    It also has the bonus effect of being extremely intimidating. Nobody wants to mess with a guy who looks like this –

  75. bailbondmike says:

    Here’s a blog killer. Sorry.

    • Ken says:

      Regardless of her politics she is kind of hot

    • Tim Knight says:

      I saw this yesterday. Her politics besides the end when she supported Trump, is right on with what she’s talking about. This is how the overthrow of countries happens. That’s how the Soviet Union came into power.

  76. CavalierKong says:

    The $200 per week, then in 10/20 a move to 70% wage insurance the GOP proposed is so much better than the current $600 weekly amount. It’s enough to allow people to survive and is similar to disability insurance. It also will create incentive to get back to work rather than remove the incentive by paying some people more than a working wage.

    I haven’t had time to look at other details, just saw that blurb and think that particular detail is a step in the right direction.

    • Mike E. says:

      There’s no question that there are too many people who are making more on unemployment than their real jobs and therefore have zero incentive to go back to work. That’s a huge issue.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Unemployment is not forever.

        The issue we have in this country is the same battle Ronald Reagan talked about before he became governor of California. Many of the founding fathers had the same concerns. It’s a battle of individual freedom vs. a larger central government. Individualism vs. collectivism.

        Once we allow an elite body of government to control our lives as subjects as opposed to free individuals, we’re done as a free nation and that will permeate throughout the world.

      • bailbondmike says:

        My POS brother-in-law is one of them. He has been getting 875.00 a week. Been spending at least 200 of it a week on meth,

      • steveccnv says:

        Tim, that’s what I’ve been saying for a long time, individual freedom vs big govt. First they take away your freedom of speech, then your guns, and before you know it our way of life.

        Does anyone really want socialism or globalism here? Sometimes I wonder. Why do they go after our kids? Low hanging fruit.

        Don’t ask what the govt can do for you, ask what you can do for your govt. JFK

  77. CavalierKong says:


    Yep, the $600 a week is equivalent to a $15/hr full time job. That is on top of whatever they are getting from unemployment itself. If those people were smart, they will have used the extra money they are getting to try and get ahead. Of course if they were smart, they would probably be making more than that to begin with, lol.

    • New Age says:

      My father said he saw somewhere the average money made is $950 weekly. That’s a $49,400 a year job. The average American worker made $48,251.27 in 2018. It’s absolutely unbelievable when you add the other extra benefits they have. These people are making, with the benefits included, more than highly trained nurses and sitting at home doing nothing.

      Or, in the case of teachers, they are crying that it’s unfair they’d have to be at risk like the rest of us. while being off since March. It must be fucking nice.

  78. steveccnv says:

    bailbondmike says:
    July 27, 2020 at 6:07 pm
    I had a nurse from Baptist Hospital come in to bond her brother out yesterday. I wore a mask but she didn’t. She asked me if I wanted her to wear one but told her if she didn’t want to that it was fine. I asked her about the # of COVID patients as that is her main job right now is caring for COVID patients. She said they are not overwhelmed like the local news likes to report. Said the only worry she has about catching it is missing work but has no worries if she does catch it. She also told me the number of positive results is overblown.

    I mentioned that last week. My mom said they were counting the same people multiple times in FL.

  79. Krishna says:

    No worries. It will magically go away!

  80. wyoming85 says:

  81. wyoming85 says:

  82. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe I should wait for the complete list?????

  83. Mike E. says:

    I’m starting to worry a little bit more that the 2020 NFL season may be in danger.

    • D says:

      Even if its played i think its going to be like a season of extended PS games.

      • Mike E. says:

        That wouldn’t bother me much, I would expect that to be the case because of the lack of practice and preseason games. I’ll definitely take that over nothing. You?

  84. D says:

    “According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, players will have seven days from the time the agreement is officially signed to decide whether to opt out for the season. Players considered high risk for COVID-19 can earn $350,000 and an accrued NFL season if they choose to opt out of the season. Players without risk can earn $150,000 for opting out.”

    • CavalierKong says:

      an accrued NFL season? Is that just in regard to years in the league, vet minimums, and league benefits, or are they talking about a year on their existing contract?

    • D says:

      Stephen Guidry, WR, Dallas Cowboys, who signed with the Cowboys as an undrafted free agent earlier this year, will be placed on the reserve/voluntary opt-out list. Unlike veteran Maurice Canady, who opted out Monday, he will not receive the $150,00 payout. He will get to keep his $10,000 signing bonus and the Cowboys will continue to hold his rights.

  85. steveccnv says:

    I don’t know how to take the cheats opt out news. At first it sounds good, then you Debbie Downers…

    • D says:

      Think of it this way. We beat them and then its because they had so many opt out. I mean playing teams riddled by opt outs wont feel very good beating them. Yay we throttled the Chiefs who were playing an entire reserve offense. I dont know how gratifying that can be. So like i said, if we have football, i dont think its going to be the same game this year.

    • steveccnv says:

      Not worried, if it’s going to be the same game, that’s out of my control, just win.

  86. Krishna says:

    And no talk of 14 players from Marlins testing positive and being in quarantine in Philadelphia. Fake news! Maybe we need a recount or they counted 7 and doubled it.

  87. Krishna says:

    Who will want to play in Florida?

    The damn media is running fake news about all the cases and ICU beds being filled up in Miami-Dade county. SMH!

  88. Krishna says:

    And one more comment about Florida “counting” processes.

    They can’t count votes, hanging chads, etc. Why should we expect them to count lab tests properly? That’s higher math!?

    • stangerx says:

      They can’t even count dead bodies. The governor got heck earlier on for only reporting the deaths of Florida citizens. Apparently you could vacation in FL and never die.

    • steveccnv says:

      This is different, maybe, because they have financial gain at stake, but you could say the same about their other counting issues. Maybe corruption is a better way of putting it. The numbers are in their favor, so…

  89. steveccnv says:

    Javaris Davis originally entered the NFL as an undrafted college free agent with Kansas City on April 30, 2020. Davis was a four-year letterman (2016-19) and three-year starter at Auburn, where he played in 49 career games with 35 starts. He totaled 150 tackles (115 solo), eight interceptions, 32 passes defensed and one forced fumble in his career.

    He played with Iggy, so that should help him, and does have good numbers. He likely won’t make the 53, but looks like he may have a shot at the PS.

  90. stangerx says:

    Seems the number of infections for a state is pretty much just an indicator of what’s going on anyhow since you are never going to catch all the cases because some people have relatively mild symptoms. But if the counting metric stays the same, even if imperfect, the number going up or down shows what is relatively happening.

    Best measure for the impact of the illness has always been people hospitalized and deaths.

  91. Krishna says:

    Agree, stangerx. It’s trends.

    We’re not even close to “knowing” where we are as a nation. Some of you here have real life experience on the efficacy, efficiency, and effectiveness of US testing after 6 months of knowing about COVID.

    Stellar results so far!

  92. steveccnv says:

    I don’t agree, as BBM smentioned yesterday the nurse said the hospitals aren’t full. We also know the death numbers are highly inflated. If George Floyd had covid they would’ve counted him too.

    • Krishna says:

      In Pensacola. Last I checked that was no where near Miami-Dade county.

    • stangerx says:

      If ICU beds aren’t full in South FLorida they sure are putting a lot of effort into hiding it by converting other units into ICUs. Part of that was canceling elective surgery, which I guess could actually mean there are free beds of other kinds.

    • Krishna says:

      We have video on how Floyd died or the cops would have said “he strangled, I mean struggled.”

      Truly an asshole thing to say.

    • CavalierKong says:

      It’s just confirmation bias. We see doctor after doctor and nurse after nurse talking about the impact to hospitals, and that is all fake. But the second we get a story from a nurse in a passing conversation saying something that fits your own belief, well obviously that’s true.

      Also, what happened to the 10 times the number of people that probably have it, but aren’t being counted in the total because they are asymptomatic? That is what brings the death total down to only about 5 times the flu at like .006. So are the numbers overinflated or underinflated?

      Meh, I’ve said it before, I’m not sure what to believe anymore. To me all that really matters is the virus is here, it’s spreading, I’m not worried about the impact to myself, but I know I don’t want my mother in chemo to get it. I don’t want my elders to get it. I’m going to listen to the health experts and doctors and wear a mask and socially distance. I’m part of my community and I’ll do my part.

      • CavalierKong says:

        And yeah, I believe the testing is for absolute crap, completely unreliable. My knowledge is anecdotal, but it’s what I believe.

      • Krishna says:


      • stangerx says:

        Cav — completely made up by me playing doctor on the board, but I’m starting to think it is not so much the tests are unreliable as they are only as good as they are. They detect the virus, but only at a certain level….. one above where some people who already have it register. Give that same person a few days and then it would work.

      • D says:

        I think you can file this under the whats the negative. So on one hand, you dont believe int he numbers and you decided you dont wear a mask and practice social distancing or whatever, and if you are right, ok your risk is lower but its still there. You still have a chance to contract it, to spread it, to potentially bring it to someone that doesnt survive it. You are wrong and its that times 10.

        On the other hand lets say you believe the numbers and you wear a mask and you socially distance and you hand sanitize etc etc. If you are right you have lessensed the risk of the spread to someone else by a factor, not matter the factor, its less than the previous factor. If you are wrong, you still lower the numbers, there just wasnt as much of a threat as previously thought.

        So any way ya slice it, there is no reason to throw caution to the wind and treat it like there isnt a threat out there, because if you do you dont change the outcome, you still are safe, those around you are safer, and in general you are part of the solution not the problem. On the flip of that you are part of the problem, period. There is nothing about playing it safe that harms anything and there is a lot at stake if you dont, and especially if you assumed wrong and the number are actually legit.

        I dont see how the logic doesnt add up, how the number even friggin matter. Im going to be protecting myself until this ends and this might mean a new way of life.

  93. D says:

    Kyle Peko Jr., DT, Denver Broncos, who played in seven games for the Broncos in the 2016 and 2017, was again signed by the Broncos off the Colts practice squad last December and then signed for 2020 earlier this year. His wife, Giuliana, was diagnosed with Stage 3 Hodgkin’s lymphoma last year and Peko was briefly excused from Bills training camp last summer to be with her. He announced last season that her treatments had been successful and she was cancer-free, but her battle with cancer would put her in the at-risk demographic for COVID-19.

  94. D says:

    Bears NT Eddie Goldman opts out of 2020 season

  95. D says:

    Patrick Chung, S, New England Patriots, opts out of 2020 season

  96. CavalierKong says:


    You might be right. 🤷

    I just don’t have enough technical knowledge to make an informed decision about the issues with testing. I’m taking the tack D talked about in his reply to me. I f%^&ing HATE wearing a mask, but I’ll try to do my part not to spread it, and certainly to not give it to my vulnerable loved ones. And I’ll continue to go about my life. To me all the rest is just distraction.

    • D says:

      Small sacrifice of comfort to help you cut down on risk, no matter the percentage, no matter the test numbers, it helps and it helps as much as it does. You do all the things you can do to help, your helping as much as you can, and that again is independent of any numbers or percentages no matter the truth or fallacy in them.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, I think we see eye to eye on this thing pretty much right down the line.

      • stangerx says:

        I want to say what else you can do…… but then there are some folks out organizing protests against wearing masks. Almost explains why the US is the worst country in the wolrd at fighting Covid.

  97. D says:

    Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, Houston Texans, opts out of 2020 season

  98. D says:

    Krishna says:
    July 28, 2020 at 11:49 am

    I thought we were going to wait for list v one-by-one announcements. Lol….
    Lol someone else made that promise, not me, i like the drama of the one by one listing 🙂

  99. Krishna says:

    I thought we were going to wait for list v one-by-one announcements. Lol….


  100. Mike E. says:

    I’ve been researching, and obviously since I’m home it’s solely on the internet. It seems that 2/3 of the COVID-19 cases are the nasal congestion/respiratory issues and the other 1/3 are GI issues like diarrhea. Apparently, testing with a nasal swab is NOT going to find a patient that is only showing GI symptoms because the virus isn’t present in the nasal cavity. I just spoke to my doctor again and unfortunately there is no stool sample testing for COVID at this time. That kinda sucks because I would like to know for sure whether I have it even though in my mind I’m nearly 100% sure I do have it. I know at work they are interested in knowing whether I’m positive or negative and I explained the issue, but there’s a lot of gray area right now with this. It’s quite an imperfect science for those love the science aspect of it. I find that pretty unfortunate.

    • D says:

      So how did you contract this rectal only version 🙂

    • D says:

      I wouldn’t know if i had the GI version of it probably. Some of the medicines i take and the copious amounts of coffee, my shit stays fucked up half the time anyways.

    • Krishna says:

      It’s pretty insidious in its ability to spread and the organ systems it attacks. Remember, there’s an infant version, too.

    • stangerx says:

      Sorta of hoping you are wrong on that….. cause hoping you don’t have it. Which kind did your son have? Any idea how the GI type spreads?….. meaning some other way than cough/sneeze/expelled breathe way.

  101. Mike E. says:

    D – That’s what my son said about the GI version and largely for the same reason too. He drinks coffee too which wreaks havoc on his stomach but he does it anyway.

  102. Krishna says:

    Also, some have not recovered from symptoms weeks or months later.

    Be sure you get your info from the random nurse in Pensacola in a bail bond office. Completely sourced and peer-reviewed? And, wouldn’t even qualify as anecdotal, imo.

    • stangerx says:

      You are better than that man. All family here. And you made that point before.

      • Krishna says:

        I don’t think I’m better, stangerx. I do know I’m pretty angry. And, when I hear/read comments like this (political fake news) and people believe and wrap themselves in it, it’s frustrating and pisses me off.

        This is not a political debate and it’s a pandemic. But, let’s poke holes in it for political points. I think it’s pretty disgusting. We should be looking for solutions not pretending it’s overblown.

        I liked D’s take on “personal responsibility.”

        Just do what you can. Stop trying to discredit numbers, stop wishing it magically go away, stop politicizing it.

        It’s sickening, imo.

      • stangerx says:

        You can’t change the world Krishna. Look at all those conspiracy theories out there. You think you can logic people out of those? They knew the facts to start with and still are putting them out. World is flat in case you haven’t heard. 🙂

      • Krishna says:

        Lol…yes, I’ve heard/read the world is flat.

    • steveccnv says:

      Amongst all the BS in the media, these random professionals are the only ones we can trust😉

      • Krishna says:

        By the way, I am a “medical” professional and took every medical course an MD would take except pharmacology and diagnosis of disease.

        I can talk to any doctor one-on-one and completely understand their world, their language, and their approach to treatment.

        And, had I agreed with some of them or been a sheeple, Mrs. K would have died 3 years earlier. Just FYI.

  103. Krishna says:

    And, just to be fair, I talked to my sister who lives in the suburbs of Orlando spouting similar counting anomalies in FL.

    I was nice (as I love her dearly, the little Republican that she is) and stated these are one-offs and do not represent the true state of this pandemic. She is a teacher, too, and excuses the poor leadership in all of this.

  104. Mike E. says:

    Stanger, it’s as simple as sharing a toilet with someone (not at the same time). Unless you’re going to disinfect your toilet every time you go, apparently there is a good chance the virus lingers around the toilet. Here’s more info, if you’re interested . . .

    • steveccnv says:

      Mike, we know you just want that anal test🤔

    • stangerx says:

      Man does that suck….. not just for you but for the world. It’s the Covid-Crabs strain. Says a pretty hairy guy who once had crabs and did not enjoy. The big ones would leave the nest for a road trip and I’d find them on my arms.

      • CavalierKong says:

        lol, tmi 😉

      • stangerx says:

        Oh I got more info on that one. Source slept with one of my rugby buddies like 8 months later. He got them as well. We started calling her Crab Mary.

      • CavalierKong says:

        LOL, Stang. Yeah back in the day, we had a couple of gals run through our crowd with creepy crawlies. I managed to avoid ever getting crabs, although I did have a scare with herpes once. Found out after I slept with her that she had it, but again luckily I didn’t contract it.

  105. Mike E. says:

    Steve – I pull large pieces of furniture out of my ass

  106. Rockphin says:

    Krishna, I feel your pain man. I delete at least 5 replies per day to mostly TWO individuals on here. It’s just not worth the energy.

  107. wyoming85 says:

    You can delete comments on here?????

    How can I get that button???? 😉

  108. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    July 28, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    Stanger, it’s as simple as sharing a toilet with someone (not at the same time). Unless you’re going to disinfect your toilet every time you go, apparently there is a good chance the virus lingers around the toilet. Here’s more info, if you’re interested . . .
    Something most people have heard at one point in their life, then blissfully ignored it, is that fecal matter can be found on almost all surfaces you come across that aren’t cleaned frequently. Its on the money in your pocket, its on the surfaces of your kitchens. If you smell shit, you have pieces of fecal material in your nose. Im sure its as easy to transmit, if not more so.

  109. D says:

    Rock, you dont have to delete them on my account….. jkbb

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s your respect for someone, or you just don’t want to get into it, that prevents you from posting things. I do it all the time, for both reasons.

  110. Rockphin says:

    Krishna says:
    July 28, 2020 at 1:21 pm
    The energy it takes to point out ignorance is exhausting! Makes me sad, too.

    Krishna, Willful ignorance is worse. You can prove something and people will still say “well, I’m not going to believe that no matter what!”

    You can watch any number of satellites that show the globe live shots and there are still willfully ignorant people that will believe the earth is flat as spite.

  111. D says:

    Star Lotulelei, DT, Buffalo Bills is opting out as is Michael Pierce, DT, Minnesota Vikings. Apparently one of the reasons they say players are option out is related to the fact that if they dont opt out and the season is cancelled they will lose out on guaranteed money.

    “The reason a lot of players are opting out (besides health reasons) is if you have a lot of guaranteed money this year and the season is cancelled, they risk losing a lot of money
    — Jonathan Feliciano (@MongoFeliciano) July 28, 2020”

    • D says:

      Here is a full list up to this point.
      Michael Pierce, DT, Minnesota Vikings
      Star Lotulelei, DT, Buffalo Bills
      Eddie Goldman, DT, Chicago Bears
      Anthony McKinney, OT, Tennessee Titans
      Patrick Chung, S, New England Patriots
      Cole Wick, TE, New Orleans Saints
      Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, Houston Texans
      Kyle Peko, DT, Denver Broncos
      Stephen Guidry, WR, Dallas Cowboys
      Andre Smith, OT, Baltimore Ravens
      Dont’a Hightower, LB, New England Patriots
      Brandon Bolden, RB, New England Patriots
      Marcus Cannon, OT, New England Patriots
      Danny Vitale, FB, New England Patriots
      Najee Toran, C/G, New England Patriots
      Caleb Brantley, DL, Washington Football Team
      Maurice Canady, CB, Dallas Cowboys
      Chance Warmack, G, Seattle Seahawks
      De’Anthony Thomas, WR, Baltimore Ravens
      Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, G, Kansas City Chiefs

  112. Rockphin says:

    I didn’t realize from what had been posted before that the guys opting out are getting paid a stipend that will be deducted from their salary the next time they play. (next season)

    “NFL players who opt out for 2020 also will receive salary advances. Those who opt out for medical reasons because they are at high risk regarding COVID-19 will receive $350,000 for the season, and those who opt out voluntarily will receive $150,000 for the season. (Undrafted rookies who opt out voluntarily are not eligible to earn the $150,000 stipend.)

    So Duvernay-Tardif, for example, will get the $150,000 salary advance since he opted out voluntarily, and his 2020 contract will toll to 2021. He was scheduled to earn $2.75 million this season, so he’ll earn that (minus the $150,000) next year.”

    • Rockphin says:

      the part about his contracting tolling to 2021 answers and earlier question. If a player opts out this season their contract extends a year. (Tolls the next season)

      • D says:

        EXCEPT, if they have to for medical reasons they get 350k and accrue a year on their contract. I think i posted that earlier.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s good. Wouldn’t want these guys to loophole their way through it.

      • D says:

        D says:
        July 28, 2020 at 9:53 am

        “According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, players will have seven days from the time the agreement is officially signed to decide whether to opt out for the season. Players considered high risk for COVID-19 can earn $350,000 and an accrued NFL season if they choose to opt out of the season. Players without risk can earn $150,000 for opting out.”

  113. CavalierKong says:

    This was nice bit of news to read.

  114. steveccnv says:

    Bobby, do you believe this fuck?

  115. CavalierKong says:

    This might have already been posted.
    Is Blake Ferguson our starting LS? i don’t remember who replaced Denney after Rock got him fired.

  116. CavalierKong says:

    Anybody watched The Last Dance? It’s on Netflix, so I’ve been watching an episode each night. I’m finding it very well produced and entertaining.

    Obviously it’s MJ-centric, but it’s still a blast to revisit the golden era of basketball – the 80’s and 90’s and the changing of the guard from the Celtics/Lakers to the Pistons to the Bulls.

    • steveccnv says:

      Saw one episode and thought it was pretty good, but a lot has come out about it, in that some of the players in it weren’t too fond of the facts in it.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, I was reading about that, especially Grant and Pippen. That’s kinda what i mean by MJ-centric. It’s showing things from his perspective and I would assume with his approval, so it may not always be the most unbiased look, lol. Still, so far I’m enjoying it quite a bit. I was always a big MJ fan though.

    • stangerx says:

      Cav — it is an awesome series. Watched one episode after the other. Not sure if it makes you love Jordan….. but it sure is a look into greatness.

  117. Rockphin says:

    Boy, Covid is just ruining everything.

  118. Randy says:

    Am I reading you guys correctly? NFL players can opt out of actually doing their job this season, get paid a stipend for NOT doing their jobs AND THEN get their contracts extended another year to make sure they actually have a job next year too even though they chose not to work? Must be nice. I’ll think of them while I’m trying to figure out how to make up the several thousand dollars I’ll be shorted due to furloughing. Paid slaves my ass.

    • Rockphin says:

      They actually get to borrow against their future pay, like when you work commission, but, yeah, basically.

  119. wyoming85 says:

  120. D says:

    Jordan Mack, LB, Carolina Panthers
    Leo Koloamatangi, OL, New York Jets

  121. bailbondmike says:

    Krishna, I am not going to respond to all your fucking posts about my post. It was not from fake news but from a medical professional treating COVID patients on the front line.

    I posted my point of view and you have to knock it cause it doesn’t meet your view (leftist narrative). So what. You are just a whiny old close-minded pissant. About 90% of your posts are sarcastic whiny bitching. I feel sorry for you.

    • Krishna says:

      A medical professional, a nurse and a most respected profession. She is nothing more and certainly not a pandemic expert. Believe what you want and choose your sources and your beliefs.

      I choose experts and science, you choose random people off streets to support your
      agenda. Ok for you, not ok for me. Some might call that right wing extremist conspiracy (think wacko) theorist thinking.

      Then, comes the name calling, because you have nothing else. Kudos, and so sad.

  122. stangerx says:

    If you have a big NFL contract……. why the heck would you opt out of the season for 150k? Can’t believe these guys are that scared of Covid at their age. Seems more likely is that they never thought the season would happen and are way out of shape.

    • D says:

      What i read was if they go forward with the season and the season gets cancelled, then they lose out on the guaranteed money for this year. So if they take the 150k and it extends their contract then their guaranteed money in 2020 will be there for them in 2021. Basically the article said that it really only benefits those that have a lot of guaranteed money this year, which im assuming is a bunch of guys and probably the top ones. Still we have seen a bunch of top name come off the list so maybe this article, which was one from ESPN i think, is wrong, or maybe players dont want to forgo the money right now, but i think there is a lot of potential they close the season and if i was in their spot i wouldnt wanna lose that money either.

      • D says:

        What i had read before was sorta right and sorta wrong.

      • stangerx says:

        Even if the season ends halfway….. still not adding up to 150k. But the possible scenarios look real complex as well. Assume that the agents and the union are all over it though.

  123. CavalierKong says:


    RE: The Last Dance
    After watching the first episode, I consciously decided to watch only one episode a night just to kind of appreciate it longer. I usually burn through 10 or 13 episode shows in a couple of days, but I so enjoyed it I figured I’d pleasure delay.

    It’s been a nice throwback to look forward to a new episode every day after work like back in the bronze age when we actually had to wait for episodic shows, lol.

    • stangerx says:

      You’ve watched one episode….. you will watch the rest. At whatever pace. Best look into pro sports have seen. Well except for Hard Knocks….. but this one ain’t just training camp.

  124. bailbondmike says:

    These guys tell it like it is.

    • stangerx says:

      Yeah — you walk into a situation like that with an AK-47 and you are asking to be shot.

      • CavalierKong says:

        It’s idiotic, and like you said, asking for it. Just like the people that decide to take their semi-automatic rifles into Walmart to prove a point.

        The only point I see is you are needlessly increasing the chances of your own mortality. I guarantee if that guy hadn’t had an AK-47, he’d be alive today.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I guess I should say *immediate* mortality, since I’m pretty sure we are all sitting at or near 100% mortality, lol.

  125. CavalierKong says:

    So the GOP want to include a bunch of money in military funds in the COVID response proposal to make up for the money Trump took for his wall.

    This reminds me of that one time, a long time ago, when the democrats wanted to include a bunch of money for unnecessary environmental sh*t in their COVID response proposal. I know some were very vocal about it, but there is probably some reason why it’s ok now for the GOP to do it. Let the spin begin.

    I am so sick of both of these parties. I wish we could just start from scratch. I’m so sick of how this blatantly obvious 2 team tug of war just enthralls 95% of our populace.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Me too

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Doesn’t look like the bill is going to fly with the rank and file of either party.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      We are stuck with both parties for now

      I think you have to look at the options and decide what’s best for you given the options

      But I don’t think it’s crazy, before we all leave the earth, that our political system is a little more open and less based on Jacksonian adversarial process

      I’ve said it for years before 2016 when I was more vocal about the failures of the 2 party system, and less anti-trump, that our system is a product of Jacksonian of era of politics and not necessarily tied to the fundamental principles of the country

      So if we had more parties that were viable options, I think you’ll see more a return to reason form the established parties, bc it’s inherently less adversarial
      and more dependent on real time solutions

      But for now we are all fucked….lol

  126. pheloniusphish says:

    Dude with the AK died because he was stupid, not because he had an AK. He did an interview before the incident, said he wouldn’t point it at law enforcement because they would kill him, but he would point it at Trump supporters “because they are pussies.” Well the pussy he pointed it at was legal concealed carrier. Fuck nut got what he deserved and if people would shoot more of them, this shit would have been over a long time ago.

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL, I saw he had been on the news before he got killed, but didn’t see the interview. If he said that, it makes it even a more ironic karmic response by the universe.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I still stand by my statement you aren’t making yourself safer by carrying an AK-47 around in public for no reason. Obviously it’s just one ape’s humble opinion, but I believe you are far more likely to create an incident that gets you killed than you are to stop an incident from happening.

      Concealed weapons are the way to go unless there is a purpose that requires more firepower.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Oh I agree with you. Open carry might scare of some bad guys, but many of them are unimpressed and you give up the advantage of surprise. And while rifles are have more potential to be effective/lethal, as this incident shows a pistol in well trained hands and carried by someone with the will to use it overcomes superior potential carried by a dipshit who thinks flashing it means anything.

  127. The Flying Pig says:

    Does anyone here know what Florida’s current out of state visitors rules are. If I visit (from ny) do I still have to quarantine for 2 weeks

  128. ocalarob says:

    LOL @ Bill Barr testifying before the senate, i can’t believe the man would subject himself to that abuse! these dems are attacking him, asking him questions then interrupt him while he’s trying to answer, then they answer for him to support their narrative. their favorite phrase to stop him from answering their question, ” i’m reclaiming my time”
    what a joke!
    in one breath they blame trump for the spread of the virus and on the other they support the protesters and rioters,who’s gatherings are spreading the virus.

    the one thing Barr said was he is investigating the DNC in the Carter Paige incident. and that investigation has been slowed due to the virus, if Biden is elected then all that goes away with the new AG.
    if Trump stays in office democratic heads will roll.

  129. ocalarob says:

    what’s real funny is the dems bring barr before the senate to question him and it would seem they are more interested in what they have to say vs listening to the answers of their questions from barr. whats the point in asking a question if you don’t want to hear the answer?

  130. wyoming85 says:

  131. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t want to go off on a political tangent!
    But if you missed Barr’s hearings this is what you heard for 6 hours

  132. olddolphan says:

    SIX MORE PATRIOTS, including star LB Donta Hightower, are opting out of the coming NFL season!!! Yet, according to the Tampa Bay Times, the spread stayed at Pats favored by 6 and 1/2 points over Miami in the season opener!!! Think I’ll take the Fins and the points in that game!!
    BUSY AS HELL at work!! Gold and silver both up over 50% this year already. Gold was over $1950 yesterday afternoon while silver neared $25 per ounce!! Counterfeiters coming out of the woodwork like crazy now!! DO NOT BUY any coins NOT certified by PCGS,NGC,ICG or ANACS.
    Uncertified coins may be COUNTERFEIT!!!

  133. bailbondmike says:

    This 2 party system does suck but if Trump is not reelected then there will only be one party for decades to come. Just my fear/opinion.

    • steveccnv says:

      And they said Trump was the fascist, lol.

      I’d disagree with your comment, if Biden actually was his own man, even though he’s been corrupt his entire Senate career, but its well known he’s just a deep state puppet, so yeah I agree.

    • steveccnv says:

      Or just create your own island, with your own govt at sea🤔 then you can come up with a better system.

  134. bailbondmike says:

    Krishna, I apologize for the name calling. I had just come in from 5 hours of yard work and was feeling like shit. Really no excuse though. I’m sorry. If I had been drinking then I would of had an excuse. LOL

    Maybe you have me wrong a little. I am not trying to down play this pandemic. I believe it is real. I wear a mask at work when dealing with customers and to the store. I was just pointing out how this whole numbers thing and reporting is screwed up.

    • Krishna says:

      Fair enough. Thank you.

      • steveccnv says:

        Your a real piece of work. This is the time for you to, maybe i don’t know, come back with something to BBM? Others in the past have reached out with a branch, only to be left hanging too.

        And that holier than though name/avatar…

  135. D says:

    Its not the two party system, its the trash they are putting at the top of their parties. Most the time, in the primaries is at least one solid guy in the group. I mean they all have warts, but there are some that seem to be solid options, but by the time the party politics is done weeding out those guys, we are left with two terds and seems like at least for the past few elections its been choosing between those two terds and trying to find the one that has the most corn in it to justify your choice.

  136. steveccnv says:

    The opt out clause seems to be strange. I can see players that have a real concern, because of someone at home having issues (but see below), but most seem to be doing it for ignorant reasons.

    If these players are as money hungry as they seem, why would they opt out and lose millions in a lost season?

    Do they really believe they’re more likely to get covid playing in the NFL, that tests everyone regularly? The logic is retarded.

    Back to the ones that have someone at home that has underlying issues, the only way to help that is to have everyone in the home quarantine themselves for months. Are they going to do that? Highly unlikely.

  137. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    July 29, 2020 at 10:01 am

    Or just create your own island, with your own govt at sea🤔 then you can come up with a better system.
    Start to see the movie castaway in a different light, same movie, you just cant figure out why he ever left the island.

  138. wyoming85 says:

  139. wyoming85 says:

    I’m more impressed with our Coach every time he say’s stuff like this!

    • steveccnv says:

      The no excuses approach. Just think where our country could be at, if this approach was taken by more/everyone…

  140. wyoming85 says:

  141. wyoming85 says:

  142. wyoming85 says:

  143. CavalierKong says:

    MLS/NBA/NHL all report at this time they have 0% infection.

    In regards to Flores, with all the distractions the good coaches should shine this season. I think if we do have a season, we are going to have a good one.

  144. D says:

    New to the opt out list.

    Jason Vander Laan, TE, New Orleans Saints
    Devin Funchess, WR, Green Bay Packers

  145. son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggy, I read your question wrong last night, as far as I know there is no quarantine time here in Fla. Anyone can come here and infect us and get the hell right out of here lol.

  146. son of a son of a shula says:

    Btw, if you are someone who gets pee lock in public restrooms the way to overcome that is by doing multiplication tables in your head. You’ll be peeing like a champ within seconds.

  147. D says:

    Njoku to the Boys for a third.

    • steveccnv says:

      Kind of steep, reeks of desperation from the ‘boys. His stats don’t say he’s worth a 3rd, but maybe he’s a great blocker or does something else they like. On the face it’s a bad trade.

      • D says:

        Im a little closer to being an OK trade but for the most i agree with ya. He has has flashes of really great receiving ability, just hasn’t been consistent. I would have done the trade for us for conditional 5th or 6th, he would be an improvement over the dude we just picked up, Shehan

  148. D says:

    Looks like Naples has a storm that is headed his way, might be a Hurricane force storm by end of day today and he is dead in the landfall prediction cone.

  149. D says:

    LOL, talk about a petty world. One part of major contention by the Dems’ is that Trump’s signature be taken off the paper checks that went out, and they do not want it on the next round that goes out. Come on, i mean to fight in either direction for a signature to be put on or left off a document is all political bullshit and its petty as fuck to be holding anything up because of that.

    • Mike E. says:

      It’s beyond absurd already. I almost feel that people who are really invested in either party or the candidates they’re offering are completely fucked up. This might be the worst election year in the history of the country. Which fuckface do you vote for? I guess what I mean is I know people will stand by their party and what it’s supposed to stand for but I think more than anything it’s just a vote against the other party. I had said that I think Trump handled the whole BLM thing poorly and maybe he wasn’t the right guy for another 4 years but I’m not feeling quite the same right now. All I can say now is I hope there are debates so we can what capacity Biden actually has, and if he can handle himself.

      • D says:

        might wanna pay closer attention to the VP debates, in the case of either of these guys getting elected, the VP is likely to finish the term lol.

      • steveccnv says:

        Do we really need a debate to see what capacity Biden has?

  150. son of a son of a shula says:

    I meme I saw earlier:

    Sorry about the national coin shortage, I started a swear jar

  151. Mike E. says:

    Steve – Of course we do. I want to see if he can stay with the program for the full length of the debate. I know you’re kinda joking but there are millions of people who actually are going to vote for this guy so I think the world needs to see what he actually is at this current time.

    • D says:

      Those debates are going to turn into a shit show. Trump cant help trolling and Biden isnt going to be able to not take the bait. I think its just going to be an even larger confirmation of what we already know lol. Again, VP is probably more important this year than ever, i dont think either of these guys make it 4 years. Trump is in horrible health and Biden is damn near a walking vegetable.

    • stangerx says:

      Have you seen Biden interviewed? Who really knows but one thing he comes across is a really nice guy. That’s a something at least.

      • D says:

        stangerx says:
        July 29, 2020 at 12:59 pm

        Have you seen Biden interviewed? Who really knows but one thing he comes across is a really nice guy. That’s a something at least.
        Plenty of time Stanger, he’s creepy a lot of times, he has some moments of charm, but anything irritates him and he turns into a dick. I have seen that happen at several of his “town hall” type meetings. He’s a wildcard, you dont know what your going to get when he opens his mouth. Im not saying he cant be nice some time, and coherent, but its less times than not.

  152. Mike E. says:

    President Pence just reminds me of this scene from Animal House. I feel like I’d want to say President Pence the same way Neidermeyer said “pledge pin” in this scene.

  153. stangerx says:

    Long as we were talking about the 2 party system — there are actually 4 distinct factions within it.

    Nationalist Populists (Trump’s base)
    Traditional Republicans (“establishment” GOP)
    Traditional Democrats
    Progressive Populists (Bernie’s folk)

    Last election the Trump base took over the GOP and Bernie’s folks tried but failed. These parties are not stitched together that tightly. Guessing will be more than 2 within the next decade.

    • stangerx says:

      So basically the whole football world was convinced we were tanking to take Tua at #1 #1. Then he gets injured and falls. We win 5 games and take him at #5. And now he is ready for contact in camp. All those same folks who said we were tanking the season now saying he wanted to play in MIA and faked the injury to land here?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Just can’t win, right? There always has to be some tenebrous motivation and agenda to everything. I still see pundits talking about how we tanked the season, lol.

      • stangerx says:

        “tenebrous”? — man am I impressed……after looking up to make sure was a real word. 🙂 But agree —- conspiracy theories sell, especially when it comes to getting clicks on headlines.

  154. Randy says:

    I work with lots of gals. Not only do they very strongly believe that Biden SHOULD absolutely have a woman VP(black, if possible)….part of it is that lots of them think Biden won’t last and the gal will actually end up in charge anyway. They love that scenario and it’s a big reason they’d vote for Biden. Lol

  155. D says:

    D says:
    July 29, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    stangerx says:
    July 29, 2020 at 12:59 pm

    Have you seen Biden interviewed? Who really knows but one thing he comes across is a really nice guy. That’s a something at least.
    Plenty of time Stanger, he’s creepy a lot of times, he has some moments of charm, but anything irritates him and he turns into a dick. I have seen that happen at several of his “town hall” type meetings. He’s a wildcard, you dont know what your going to get when he opens his mouth. Im not saying he cant be nice some time, and coherent, but its less times than not.

    • stangerx says:

      Guess people can see things different. Not a fan of Biden’s politics, but least think he has a good heart.

      • D says:

        I dont think he has a good heart. Then again, im not sure any of those guys, especially the career politicians have a heart., nor a soul, they sold that a long time ago.

      • stangerx says:

        You will have to decide for yourself, but have met many a politician with a good heart…… but then some that did not as well. Trying to figure that out was my litmus test on how to deal with them.

  156. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I think if you’re going to start breaking it down, there are a lot more than just 4 factions. I don’t even know where I fit into this right now. I need to see who Biden chooses and then I want to see what that woman decides to make her platform. While Trump might torment Biden in a debate I feel that anyone the Dems choose should have a field day with Pence. I think he’s easy pickins.

    • stangerx says:

      I was looking at the bigger picture, including the future. But for sure there are a lot of people who will swing…. not just btwn parties in an election like the one coming up but btwn those factions. What is really holding the parties together is the structure on the local and state level. That’s hard to replace when folks have been working red or blue for years.

      And a lot of people don’t where they fit right now, part of the populist take over of the GOP. Same almost happened on the other side in the primaries. You see how all those establishment Dems dropped out before the South Carolina primary and Super Tuesday. Looked like Bernie was gonna win in a runaway before they did.

  157. CavalierKong says:

    If Biden is smart, which so far he or his handlers appear to be since he’s kept his profile low, he won’t do much in the way of debating. Just let Trump do all the talking and shoot his own foot.

    I mean this was Trump yesterday on Fauci:

    “And he’s got this high approval rating. So why don’t I have a high approval rating with respect — and the administration — with respect to the virus? We should have it very high.”

    “So it sort of is curious,” Trump said, “a man works for us, with us, very closely, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx also, very highly thought of — and yet, they’re highly thought of, but nobody likes me?”

    “It can only be my personality, that’s all,” he said.

    No you moron, it’s because you have contradicted him and done everything you can to hinder his job and his message every single step of the way and a lot of people see that. I mean literally the night before this statement he was tweeting negative sh%t about the guy, and he doesn’t understand why Fauci’s approval doesn’t translate to himself? Doh!

    • D says:

      I agree thats the best tactic. It generally is with Trolls. You engage int he trolling then you better be prepared to get dirty, because if you are going to troll with trolls you gotta be an A+ troll and then you probably still look like an ass by all the others, but at least can feel vindicated on some personal level lol. Biden would be best to stay as quiet as he can, because he isn’t prepared to do battle. He wont do well getting down int he mud with Trump. Id play the grandpa Joe card and make it look like Trump’s just a big ole bully.

    • Mike E. says:

      That’s Trump the Narcissistic asshole. Gotta be honest, I’m no fan of Fauci either. I don’t trust him as far as I can throw him.

      • CavalierKong says:

        LOL, that statement about trust can literally be said about any of these people. There is no trust in our government’s current form.

      • CavalierKong says:

        When you have a president that 70% of what he says is blatantly provably false
        When you have a justice department being used as a political tool
        When you have two parties that would rather push their own agenda in relief bills than get it done
        When you have one party that pushes racial injustice for political gain
        When you have another party that pushes fear for political gain
        and on
        and on
        and on

        Where the hell does trust come into play?
        Trust? Don’t talk about – trust? You kidding me? Trust? I just hope the Fins can win a game!


  158. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, I told myself I wasn’t going to talk politics today. I tried and lasted almost 3 hours. but hey, I go where the board leads me 😉

  159. Mike E. says:

    Kong – Is it wrong that I imagine Jim Mora saying what you said?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Thank you for picking that up. I was hoping the fins line would make the joke clear.

      So often I follow a train of thought into a joke and when I throw it out in a post it’s nearly impossible to follow the thread, lol.

  160. CavalierKong says:


    I never make up words. I’m am scrumtrulescent like that…

  161. D says:

    Stanger, In a town hall meeting in Iowa, an other man, i think the dude said he was in his 80’s or nearly 80, and also an Elizabeth Warren supporter. The man asked him about his son and a connection to Brumesa and asked him if he claimed that the president was bought because of his foriegn dealings, how could they expect there to be no chance of that with him. Joe responds by calling the guy a damn liar, stopped just short of calling him a fat ass, did call him fat though, and then he later rubbed it in by challenging him to push ups and an IQ test. Not very nice there.

    He then proceeded to call out a student who simply asked if they could have faith in him winning against Trump, when he did so poorly in the Iowa caucus and eh proceeded to tell her she didnt even know what a caucus was and that she was a “lying dog faced pony soldier”.

    Next stop he had an interaction with a Detroit factory worker when he was there for a meet and greet. The guy challenged him on his stance on the second amendment and accused him of wanting to take guns away. Biden responded “You’re full of shit man!” He said it again and said, “That’s not OK, alright?” Biden was like “Dont tell me that, pal, or im going to go outside with you, man!” They guy said, “You work for me, man!” Biden fored back, “I dont work for you, dont be such a horses ass.” Later he was in a different interview and that guy and his interaction was brought up, and Biden said “If i win, im coming for him, no im coming for them” im assuming referring to gun owners, even though in that interaction he said myltiple times he was for the 2nd amendment and gun ownership.

    This is just a few of the things that have happen, just in this election campaign. Thats not to count out the time he told a black man he wasnt really black if he supported Trump, or the crigne worthy way he sniffed the hair of that one girl, or touched that other little girl on the thigh. The bunch of times he stumbled on his words so bad you had no clue what he was talking about while he fumbled his way to a point.

    Im surprised you missed all these things, because im sure you couldnt straight faced call him a nice guy, knowing about these. None of those people are nice people, you cant relate to any of them and they have no clue how to relate to us.

    • stangerx says:

      I was aware of most of those instances at least. Have also seen him in one -on-one interviews, which is what set my own opinion. Or maybe more important from my own view is that see him as stable. Normal presidential if he takes office. And there are only two choices after all. As said before, not asking you to agree about Biden.

  162. CavalierKong says:

    I can’t believe how much political discourse we’ve had on this blog recently, with such disparate opinions, and no real blowouts or d%ck measuring challenges. Even when occasionally it gets a little heated or a person maybe crosses a line, at least one and sometimes both parties defuses and moves on.

    I seriously have a ton of respect for every single person here.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree, there really hasn’t been any incidents at all, though some people may just be biting their tongue or maybe not even around to see it. Still, for those who have been here, bravo!

  163. bailbondmike says:

    Biden could be a nice guy unless you cross him. He’s a sell out in the worst way. He sold out to China as VP and has defended them during Trump’s presidency. Now he is a sell out to the far left of his party. Why? Because he is a puppet and is doing what he is told to do.

    • stangerx says:

      Puppet of the far left is the smart way to depict him till Nov. Can’t tell you how happy I was that he got the Dem nomination. Imagine if it was Bernie? Now at least there has to be the puppet part involved. No doubt how far left Bernie is….. no need to accuse when he proudly claims to be a socialist. I couldn’t vote for him.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I don’t know what I would have done if Bernie won. I know I wouldn’t have voted for him, but I’d cut off an arm before voting for Trump.

        I guess I would basically just walk the earth. You know, like Cain in Kung Fu. Just walk from town to town, meet people, get in adventures and stuff.

  164. D says:

    stangerx says:
    July 29, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    I was aware of most of those instances at least. Have also seen him in one -on-one interviews, which is what set my own opinion. Or maybe more important from my own view is that see him as stable. Normal presidential if he takes office. And there are only two choices after all. As said before, not asking you to agree about Biden.
    I know your not, and i dont expect any different, its all good.

  165. wyoming85 says:

  166. D says:

    Kong i wont be doing any dick measuring with you, i promise.

  167. wyoming85 says:

  168. ElephantRider says:

    Just remember if you’re black and dont vote for Biden, you’re not black. And they call Trump a fascist?

  169. wyoming85 says:

  170. D says:

    Mikey, if you are looking for a really good cigar, look at the My Father line, the last couple i smoked from them were like things of beauty. One i think i like about the best of any cigar i have had (non Cuban) was the one from them called “The Judge” its a box pressed cigar, so a little odd in the hand, but its amazing. The last one i got from them was “La Promesa” equally amazing.

  171. stangerx says:

    Tim — this one is for you. Amazes me what happens right off the beach in FLA.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Good stuff. A woman was just killed by a great white in Maine recently. The bottom line is many different species of sharks exist in the oceans and it’s your choice to go into the ocean just like going into the woods where there are bears, wolves, big cats and other dangerous animals. Nature is wonderful but also primitive and dangerous.

  172. D says:

    New additions to the opt out list:
    John Atkins, DT, Detroit Lions
    Damien Williams, RB, Kansas City Chiefs
    Drew Forbes, OG, Cleveland Browns
    Drake Dorbeck, OT, Cleveland Browns
    Nate Solder, OT, New York Giants

  173. CavalierKong says:

    I don’t usually hold with conspiracy theories, but it is rather odd the Pets have 6 players out including some of their star players, and no other team has more than 2…

    • CavalierKong says:

      12 teams have no opt outs so far

    • Tim Knight says:

      They are headed for a complete rebuild. As of right now what do the Pats have that says we’ll be in the AFC Championship game this year?

      I think Belichick is reveling in this opportunity to prove he can win again with another group of players in a couple of years. It’s a new challenge for him before he hangs it up.

  174. CavalierKong says:

    I’m not sure if this 2020 CBA agreement bullet points has been posted yet:

    -The 2020 salary cap remains unchanged at $198.2 million, while the 2021 cap will be no lower
    than $175 million.

    -Any revenue loss from the 2020 season will be spread out evenly across the next four seasons
    (through 2024).

    -Players at high risk of complications due to the coronavirus can opt out of the 2020 season and
    earn $350,000 and an accrued season toward free agency. That includes individuals with
    autoimmune disorders, chronic diseases such as cancer and diabetes, heart issues, etc.

    -Non-risk players can opt out of the 2020 season and earn $150,000. They do not accrue a season.

    -If the season is canceled, players will not get paid their contract beyond any bonuses or
    guaranteed money owed to them before the date of cancellation.

    -Players who made their team’s roster will be eligible for a stipend payment, with the amount
    depending on the date of cancellation.

    -Positive test results for COVID-19 will be classified as football-related injuries unless the NFL
    determines a player broke any social distancing rules.

    -Those rules ban going to the following locations or attending the following events if more than 15
    people are present: indoor nightclubs, indoor bars (except to take out food), indoor house parties,
    indoor concerts, professional sporting events.

    -Attending an indoor church service that is at more than 25 percent of the building’s capacity is also
    not allowed.

    -Players who break those rules are subject to team discipline.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Per ESPN’s Dan Graziano, NFL teams could potentially place players on the non-football injury list if they contracted the coronavirus through reckless behavior. By placing players on the non-football injury list, teams could potentially get out of paying the player’s salary.

      (Sorry about the formatting on the prior post. It went wonky on me.)

  175. steveccnv says:

    D, you got most of the Biden blunders, but how about the parties at the bidens where they’d say before hand keep your eye on the women, because Joe might sexually assaulting them, and he would walk around the parties naked.

  176. wyoming85 says:

    stangerx says:
    July 29, 2020 at 4:50 pm
    Biden was freaked
    I saw it!
    Biden is freaked out by the outdoors! 😉

  177. wyoming85 says:

    Doesn’t Biden have a sexual assault case pending?

  178. Tim Knight says:

    I want to blow up the two party system into three. A 1/3 of opinions is better than this or that. It’s as simple as that to me.

    • mf13ss says:

      History has taught us that the ‘third party’ will be bought out by one of the other two major parties. I love the idea on paper, but it won’t work, bud.

      Now, back to football.

      • Tim Knight says:

        There were more than two parties when this country started. We became institutionalized. Today is so obvious with what is what. We act like we can never change now. I’m not buying it.

  179. mf13ss says:

    I’m of the opinion that the NFL will not happen this year. 14 guys on the Marlins tested positive for COVID, and the MLB season is already in jeopardy. Plus, it’s an election year (not to get into politics).

    We’ll see what happens, but I’m all but sure the NFL will be cancelled this year… and that would be sad.

  180. mf13ss says:

    I’m REALLY looking forward to Matt Breida behind our revamped O-Line. That just might be the best trade we’ve made in a long time, and we got him for a song.

  181. olddolphan says:

    MY HOPES OF ATTENDING some Dolphin home games this season took a major hit when the state announced that it had more lives snuffed out yesterday than in any other day since the crisis began. The number of cases also rose significantly yesterday. And, as the number of confirmed cases and deaths rises, our clueless governor STILL WANTS kids to attend public schools beginning next month!!!!


  182. Mike E. says:

    I think there will be an NFL season. I think MLB is handling the Marlins situation as well as they can. So far I think they’ve done well. I think the NFL is in position to do better but the physical contact is far greater in the NFL as compared to baseball. Maybe gloves and those Oakley facemasks will be good enough.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I think the biggest difference between MLB and NFL is if an MLB team misses a week or two, those games can potentially be made up with double-headers. I think that is a big reason they made the majority of games division games. The same 5 teams are playing 2/3rd of their games against each other.

      Making up two games in the NFL would be next to impossible. So if multiple teams start missing games, then you have to start looking at comparing unequal final regular season records, which may be the ultimate answer if it does go down that way.

      • Mike E. says:

        They’re going to have to do a better job than the Marlins did. If any team loses 10 or more players that will be devastating. They’re going to have to not allow these guys out during the season. They’re really going to have to monitor them closely. I don’t know how they could do it but maybe a team that gets hit particularly hard could change their BYE week to the week after they lose a few players. If they can’t do that, that team would be compromised and it would be a shame.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yep, no doubt, the Marlins showed just how not to do it, lol. As long as they can keep it from spreading through the team, a team can lose a few guys and still play, so prevention will be the best defense.

        To move a missed game to a bye week, both teams playing would have to have matching byes or maybe the league can create a domino effect moving some games around if necessary. That might be tough. I’m not sure if they are doing 2 bye weeks this year or if that starts next year, but that could make it more workable.

        I’m sure they have some contingencies. I seriously hope they can make it work. I really want to get into our new team and see what we have, not to mention Flores 2nd year which has been a letdown year for our new coaches for awhile now.

  183. Mike E. says:

    Kong – I have a friend that for some reason just wants the whole world to shut down. I don’t know if it’s because he feels it’s unsafe for sports to be played and that’s the reason why but I can’t take his posts any longer. He posted something like “Nail #2 in the 2020 MLB coffin”. When the Yankees game was cancelled. I flat out asked him what kind of pleasure he derives from this. Even if it’s slightly unsafe, these guys have a choice to play or not to play. It’s not like there are fans in the park, I just don’t get what his major malfunction is. He hasn’t answered BTW

    • CavalierKong says:

      I know a few people like that as well. Some people would joyfully watch and clap as the world burns so long as they predicted it. It doesn’t really bother me. I just hold them in contempt, lol.

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