Week 6 – Jets @ Dolphins

Defense was the story last week as the Dolphins played their best game of 2020 with a total and complete dismantling of the San Francisco 49ers. QB Jimmy Garoppolo probably wished he waited one more week to come back, and I’d bet HC Kyle Shanahan wishes he didn’t put Jimmy G. in either because he clearly looked like he wasn’t ready to play. The Dolphins defense hounded Jimmy G. and his wobbly ankle yielded wobbly throws and he was unable to escape the rush which was heavy all day. 5 sacks total to boost the yearly total to 14 sacks. Don’t spit on that guys, that’s a legit improvement from last season where we managed a season’s total of 23. Our current pace for sacks put us at 45, which is unlikely, but either way puts us close to doubling last year’s output. The rush came from everywhere, inside with Elandon Roberts, Jerome Baker and Zach Sieler and outside with Van Ginkle and Ogbah. Add in 3 turnovers, 2 INT’s (Xavien Howard) and 1 fumble recovery (Christian Wilkins) and it was great day for the defense.

Now on to the offense which by the way, also came to play. Ryan Fitzpatrick threw for 350 yards with 3 TD’s and zero INT’s. The run game was merely a complement, Myles Gaskin rushed 16 times for 57 yards and 1 TD and they sprinkled in a little of Breida and a rush or two from Bowden and Grant. RB Jordan Howard was healthy scratch. Now there is talk of the possibility of the Dolphins signing former Steeler and Jets RB Le’Veon Bell. At the moment of this writing, Bell has narrowed it down to 3 teams, the Bills, Chiefs and Dolphins. Does adding Le’Veon Bell make us a playoff contender? I suppose it depends on how we use him. The 2 RB’s we acquired in the offseason are basically spectators to the Myles Gaskin show. Breida and Howard have 114 yards rushing combined on 35 caries while Gaskin has 64 carries and 249 yards rushing. Bell looked anything but a top tier back in NY this season and last night but i9njuries have hampered him. He has only 19 carries this season and really is quite far removed from the elite RB he was in Pittsburgh all the way back in 2017. Personally, I’d say he was more of a product of that offense, having a great run blocking O-line, also catching passes from Roethlisberger when plays broke down and having WR’s Antonio Brown (in his prime) along with Martavis Bryant . So many times Big Ben extended the play and found Bell for a hige gain because the field was cleared out by Brown and Bryant and JuJu Smith-Schuster. Is it possible he’s that same player? I wouldn’t bet on it.

The Dolphins will play a late game this week (4PM) due to COVID-19 rescheduling. The Jets come in to Miami at a low point of their season. They are 32nd in scoring at 15 PPG and 32nd in defense allowing 32.2 PPG. Just dreadful. Last week we beat a team not at their best, and we put our foot on their neck. We need to do the same this week. Yes, the Jets cut Le’Veon Bell but may be getting 2 receivers back, Breshad Perriman (ankle) and Denzel Mims (IR hamstring). Both WR’s would be a boost to an anemic Jets offense that has featured Jamison Crowder, Chris Hogan, Braxton Berrios and TE Chris Herndon. Sam darnold has had a difficult season to say the least, the O-line pass protection has been leaky and he doesn’t really have a reliable receiver to throw to. He’s been sacked 12 times and has thrown 3 TD’s against 4 INT’s. HC Adam Gase is beyond dead man walking, yet this is a game if the guy has any juice left that he would try to get his team to compete in. Right now the Jets have to be included as a favorite to land next year’s prized possession in the NFL Draft, QB Trevor Lawrence and a win could put that in jeopardy as the hapless Atlanta falcons share an 0-5 record.

LB Kyle Van Noy is questionable to play this week with a groin injury. He played last week against the Niners but that’s a tough injury to play through. Sam Eguavoen would replace Van Noy if he can’t go. We also lost DT Davon Godchaux with a torn biceps and this should give DT Raekwon Davis a lot more snaps along with Brandon Sieler who has been fantastic in a Dolphins uniform. Sieler has played 38% of the snaps this season already and I expect that will increase significantly this week with Godchaux out. Mike Gesicki finally was more involved in the offense and I hope that continues. He averaged over 18 YPC last week on 5 receptions so we need to keep feeding him the ball. I honestly don’t expect Bell to be a Miami Dolphins, my guess is the Bills. Either way, hope we make the right decision.


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1,580 Responses to Week 6 – Jets @ Dolphins

  1. Ken says:

    Ogbah is worthy of #91

  2. The Flying Pig says:

  3. Ken says:

    F’n page turn

  4. pheloniusphish says:

    It’s Fitztragic today and Miami is still winning 24-0.

  5. Rhino says:

    2nd half has been tough to watch. Best part has been the defense, but that could just be the Jets Offense lol

  6. Rockphin says:

    I think it is freakin awesome that they sit side by side like that.


  7. wyoming85 says:

    The Motumbo finger!

  8. The Flying Pig says:

  9. The Flying Pig says:

    That was groundin again

  10. The Flying Pig says:

  11. wyoming85 says:

    Igy with good coverage!

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    Peeee- rind

  13. wyoming85 says:

    Rookie is going to get this one//1

  14. wyoming85 says:

    Mike E
    It was Pee-rhine in collage too!

  15. pheloniusphish says:

    Tua in

  16. manitobafinfan says:

    TUA !!!!

  17. steveccnv says:

    2nd place, by ourself😏

  18. Rhino says:

    will he get a pass attempt though? Love Fitzpatrick’s sideline cheering for Tua lol

  19. Ken says:

    I saw Tua’s first handoff 😁

  20. The Flying Pig says:

    When you see Tua get a snap

  21. steveccnv says:

    Let him throw it

  22. Rhino says:

    I was freaked a bit seeing the ball come out of his hand, quickly had to remember he was a lefty. smh lol

  23. manitobafinfan says:

    That looked horribly wrong, then he threw with his left , and I went OH YEAH.

  24. Ken says:

    Tua with our only 3rd down conversion

  25. The Flying Pig says:

    For a second I thought he was going to take a safety for his first drop back

  26. steveccnv says:

    What’s greenie and goes backwards😏

  27. manitobafinfan says:

    K Flores go shower and get the Loser Stank off from that Gase hug

  28. Rockphin says:

    I love enjoying watching the Dolphins again.

  29. Tim Knight says:

    Really impressive win when it wasn’t perfect at all. The Jets are really bad and if Fitz was on his game it could have been 48-0 easy.

  30. Krishna says:

    Another team win in spite of Fitzpatrick.

  31. The Flying Pig says:

    Tua just achieved the first 9 yards of his hall of fame career


  32. Ken says:

    It was kind of like kicking a wounded puppy today

  33. bookman11 says:

    Agree with Rhino, Fitz was hilarious trying to get the fans to stand and cheer for Tua.
    Class act

  34. CavalierKong says:

    Glorious Sunday.

  35. steveccnv says:

    Both of Shaheen’s TDs this year were on the same play.

  36. CavalierKong says:

    That Jest team is awful. I don’t think they will have much challenge for the 1st pick in the draft. We’ll see what happens when they fire Gase, but they may keep him a few more weeks just for that purpose.

  37. wyoming85 says:

    It wasn’t pretty!
    But it was decisive!

  38. sb7mvp says:

    I missed the second half. What happened with our offense?

  39. steveccnv says:

    Still on pace for 45 sacks Mike😁

  40. The Flying Pig says:

  41. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m starting to wonder if by November we have 3 rookies on the OL starting

  42. CavalierKong says:

    Great timing on the bye week. We lost 4 players today to injury. Let’s get healthy and bring on the Rams!

  43. steveccnv says:

    Currently we’re #4 in pt differential.

  44. The Flying Pig says:

    Chargers in two weeks (I hope)

  45. Krishna says:

    Did anyone notice on the Byron Jones (?) 39 sack celebration Wilkins jumped over his head?

    Oh my!

  46. bailbondmike says:

    Well I can’t ask for a better birthday present today than being able to watch the Pats lose then Texans lose then watch the Dolphins win!!! Icing on my cake was a Tua sighting. lol

  47. CavalierKong says:

    I caught something that I thought perfectly illustrates attention to detail from our HC. When the 2 minute warning hit in the 4th, Flores handed the red challenge flag to an assistant. You can’t accidently throw it and get a penalty if you don’t have it.

    It’s a little thing, but in NFL games, little things add up to wins.

  48. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Birthday BBM!

  49. Tim Knight says:

    Flores coaches people, then football players. You’re starting to see it happen.

  50. bailbondmike says:

    TBH, that had to be the most frustrating 24-0 win ever. Referring to offense that is.

  51. Ken says:

    Really loving what I am seeing on D the last few weeks. Ogbah is a beast, Howard is awesome, Wilkins is emerging we are just seeing this whole unit come together

  52. Krishna says:

    Lol….nice to be able to say a 24-0 shut out was a frustrating win!

  53. Krishna says:

    We had trouble on 3rd and short all game long. Isn’t that what you want on O?

  54. Ken says:

    My desire for a 37 jersey continues to grow

  55. Ken says:

    +47 point differential

  56. bailbondmike says:

    Glad we have a bye next week. Some valuable “D” players got banged up and did not return.

  57. CavalierKong says:

    Niners pick up a 1st on 3rd and short with a QB sneak. Brilliant playcall…

  58. Ken says:

    Some other observations from around the league:
    Ryan Tannehill is now one of the most clutch QBs in the game.
    How bad is Kirk Cousins?
    Baker Mayfield benched.
    Carson Wentz deserves better

  59. Tim Knight says:

    Brandon Jones is what Flores wanted from Minkah. Jones looks like a good value pick in the 3rd round playing that role. He also wears Minkah’s jersey #29. LOL

  60. Ken says:

    Jimmy G cutting up the Rams D tonight

  61. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m watching all the post game wrap up shows lately

    It feels so weird after avoiding them all last year….lol

  62. The Flying Pig says:

    There are 10 teams with no more than 1 win this year

  63. Tim Knight says:

    Getting back a player like Byron Jones makes a big difference. We’re seeing that now. 🙂

  64. bailbondmike says:

    Of the teams who have played 6 games, only the Ravens defense (104 points) has given up fewer points than the Dolphins defense (113 points). Only team that can realistically top us is the Steelers if they give up less than 19 points next week playing at the Titans. Next is the Cardinals who will have to hold the Seahawks to less than 11 points next week. The rest will have to throw shutouts like we just did.

    • bailbondmike says:

      Awe shit, forgot about the Rams. If the Rams hold the 49er’s to 21 points they will drop us to #3 scoring defense by 2 points.

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL, I almost posted a very similar comment and thought, nah too much stuff. But even though it seems like a lot, it is all stuff that should and likely will happen.

      We legitimately might have the #2 or #3 scoring D in the league once all the teams have played 6.

  65. CavalierKong says:

  66. CavalierKong says:

    Braves and Dodgers 7th inning stretch tied 3-3. Good game

  67. steveccnv says:

    Tua sitting on the field after the games was just a call to his parents.

  68. steveccnv says:

    Dodgers win to finish off a great victory Sunday.

  69. steveccnv says:

    Tannehill is the same QB he was with us, the difference is the team around him. He was pretty good the year he got hurt for us, but his pocket presence still sucks and in no way can he carry a team.

  70. CavalierKong says:

    I didn’t realize Imnotgoinatryandspellhisname is the youngest player in the NFL at 20.

  71. wyoming85 says:

    Now we know!!!

  72. wyoming85 says:

  73. Mike E. says:

    On Tannehill – He’s very confident now though, and he’s hitting on passes he would miss here. Give the guy credit. He’s definitely in an ideal situation with Henry and that O-line as well as A.J. Brown and Jonnu Smith but he’s elevated his play and confidence. He’s not the same exact player he was here, he’s better now. I can admit it, not sure why others can’t. Sure, put him on the Jets and he’s a mess, or even put him back on the Dolphins and he’s not the same but he’s playing really well.

  74. wyoming85 says:

  75. Mike E. says:

    Our run defense is still very suspect. I’m happy the way the defense, especially the pass rush and pass coverage has looked but we’re not a great defense. If we play a team that decides to run the ball on us they will be successful.

  76. wyoming85 says:

  77. ocalarob says:

    we’ve moved into 2nd place in the division passing up the pats!

  78. ocalarob says:

    Gaskin had 91 yards rushing, almost broke 100

  79. ocalarob says:

    that was a hell of a catch by the jets defender!

  80. Mike E. says:

    Wyo – Not at all. I think our run defense is pretty porous. I see far too many big gash runs of 10 yards or more.

  81. ocalarob says:

    • steveccnv says:

      Again teamwork. Rowe made this huge yard list sack possible for Ogbah, and I’d bet he was glad to do it.

      Gone are the days of Wanny’s vanilla D. I miss him, not😏

  82. Mike E. says:

    Our defense is a work in progress and it’s been better than I expected or almost as good as I hoped. I bet Derrick Henry would be licking his chops tom play us though.

  83. ocalarob says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Is Parker having an off year (as the announcer says) this year?

      • bookman11 says:

        I think Lofton might have been talking about when he talked him during another season, like in 2018, If I remember the whole conversation correctly. I think he goes on to say his stats from last year, and so far this year, and that he is finally living up to his first round status.

      • Ken says:

        What Bookman said

  84. wyoming85 says:

  85. steveccnv says:

    With 3 of our last 4 games being blowouts Parker has mostly been unused after the big leads.

    What kind of sadistic fuck would keep throwing to him in garbage time with his injury? He’s manning up and playing hurt, because we need him.

    Don’t get so caught up in stats, it’s about wins and spreading the ball around. Inflated stats breed salary cap hell.

    Fitz had about 150 yards against the Jags, but we won comfortably. Dak had been getting mega yards passing, but they can’t seem to win, just like Burrow and Herbert. Play the situation and not fantasy football.

    • Ken says:

      The comment wasn’t that Parker was not that Parker was having an off year. It was that he had an off year 2 years ago and has been a stud ever since

      • steveccnv says:

        I’ve heard rumblings of his stats being subpar. 971 yards, 77 catches and 5 tds at current pace.

  86. steveccnv says:

    I agree with Mike on the run D. We seem to be using smoke and mirrors, when we stop the run, but straight up 7 in the box it’s a struggle.

    We just need to accept that’s the way it’s going to be this year. Next year I expect a DT with run stuffing ability to be added.

  87. Ken says:

    I thought run D looked pretty good. A couple of the big runs we’re pad the stats garbage time runs when the Jets were hopelessly out the game. Look at all the 3 & outs early on in the game

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree it was mostly good yesterday, and when you have a lead and play the pass and they slip Gore underneath, you give them that, especially when you tighten it up deep in our territory.

      Total overall play was excellent yesterday, any better would’ve just been overkill.

  88. steveccnv says:

    We’ve seen enough seasons where our passing D or run D stats have looked good on one side of the ball and we thought that unit was pretty good, only to get gashed some weeks.

    When you suck like the jets do the opponent picks where they want to attack, and may spare the other.

    Stats smats

  89. steveccnv says:

    We thought Seattle’s pass D was bad, then couldn’t score on them. Those stats were inflated, because of teams like Dallas and Atlanta passing against soft coverage trying to come back.

    Someone should keep stats for close games while within 1 score to show a more competitive stat, but even that isn’t always accurate.

  90. ocalarob says:

    I think the D is trying to keep everything in front of them and not give up the big plays, since we started this in Jax we are 3-1

  91. ocalarob says:

    the next 6 games are very winnable we could be 9-3 at that point, the tough games out of those are LA @ home and @ the cards

  92. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t have any “Pom Poms” out by any means!
    But that’s not a bad day at the office!

    F. Gore 11 46 0 14
    T. Johnson 3 42 0 34
    L. Perine 6 26 0 13

    • Mike E. says:

      It’s over 100 yards and Johnson was just ripping off big runs every time he got the ball.

      • wyoming85 says:

        He had 1 run for 34!
        2 runs for a total of 8?

        So he had a big run

        That’s not what I call ripping off “big” runs!

        Now if he would have had 20 carries with an average of 4+ I could agree with you

  93. ocalarob says:

    The toughest will be LA, it’s great we are at home and coming off a bye when we face them.

  94. steveccnv says:

    Here’s a Fansided article written by Brian Miller.

    Miami Dolphins have a lot of work to do even in victory
    by Brian Miller1 h ago
    On Sunday, the Miami Dolphins got an important division win but there is work to be done.
    Beating the New York Jets on Sunday put the Miami Dolphins in second place in the AFC East but there is still a lot of work that needs to be done.

    Although the Dolphins won convincingly on Sunday, there is still work to do after they saw a second half collapse offensively. The 24-0 victory over the Jets is the team’s second win in a row but now, it’s time to get back to the training facility and figure out what went wrong in quarters three and four.

    When you’re leading by 3 TDs against a team you’re far superior to why try to take chances that may allow a team to get back into the game? We saw what happened in SF when the officiating crew gift wrapped a TD to the 49ers, our O got back to business, it’s not like we couldn’t have done the same yesterday had that situation come up.

    We aren’t the Patriots, when Moss was there, we’re still trying to find our way and wanted to work on the run game. Jets were probably stacking the box too.

  95. sb7mvp says:

    I watched a recap of last night and some of the plays that I missed in the second half and didnt really see much in the way of poor playcalling, just really poor decision making on the part of Fitz. It was like he decided where he was going to throw the ball pre-snap and coverage be damned. He had several wide open receivers in front of him on several of those 3rd downs and redzone plays but blew it.

    On a different note, what’s the point of having backfield refs if none of them is going to call holding that is happening right in front of their faces? It happens game in and game out and not just to our team although there were some egregious non calls yesterday.

  96. sb7mvp says:

    Chan Gailey still calls too many screens though, that is one complaint I have about the play calling.

    • wyoming85 says:

      We did have 1 successful screen though!
      That is encouraging!

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s really hard to critique a game like yesterday’s, because of opponent and lead. I try to stay away from getting too critical afterwards, when it’s a blowout. During the game is different, I’m probably bitching at every dumb call I don’t like.

      We also don’t know what’s in the coaches head, are they trying to protect an injured player, are they trying to reduce injuries in general…

  97. wyoming85 says:

    See Mike E! That’s faith in your defense????? 😉

  98. The Flying Pig says:


    You may be confused about our run defense bc you are consumed with the appropriate pronounciation of “pee-rind”


  99. The Flying Pig says:

    If I knew Perrine’s name was pronounced like that I would have pushed harder to draft him

    • bookman11 says:

      I also noticed Steve levy on MNF a few weeks back emphasizing the “e” on Clyde Edwards-Helaire. Like he wanted to show that he knows that the “H’ is silent. “Clyde Edwards EEEEEElaire!

  100. wyoming85 says:


    • The Flying Pig says:

      Especially bs the jests

      What if the schedule wasn’t modified and we had that 2 weeks in a row vs the jests thing

      That would have been the best stretch in the history of Dolphins football

  101. The Flying Pig says:

    Generally speaking yesterday

    I though we missed a lot of opportunities
    Against a team like the jests, that will still get you a shutout

    But that won’t work against teams that are a little bit better

    It’s nice to come away from a win and still have a ton to work on

    Also, as much as I respect Fitz. I’m ready for Tua now. I trust Flores and won’t second guess him – but I don’t think Fitz play has been so good lately

    • steveccnv says:

      Who cares? You don’t have to put it the effort it takes to win 50-0, if you do you’ll be worn down, when you play the better teams.

      I hate the saying that won’t work against better teams like they don’t know that and would do that against better teams. It’s why teams play to the level of competition.

  102. The Flying Pig says:

    One other thing I noted yesterday

    I can’t believe how bad Gase has made the jests

    They weren’t good before Gase
    But man, what are they doing?
    That offense is so bad
    It looks like what he did here in Miami too
    Why did he try the same stuff that didn’t work in Miami

    He got a 2nd chance to start fresh
    And he chose to do all the stuff that didn’t work again…


  103. wyoming85 says:

    Wahoo!!!!!! Game Week!!!!!!!!

  104. The Flying Pig says:

    For now
    We will all have to settle with images like these

  105. wyoming85 says:

  106. ocalarob says:

    tua had some good passes

  107. The Flying Pig says:

    Tua is now only 78,737 yards away from breaking Drew Brees career passing yardage record


  108. wyoming85 says:

    Congrats Herd!

    Marshall 35
    Louisiana Tech 17

    Your ranked #22 now!

  109. steveccnv says:

    You guys do realize Darnold us their starting QB and he was out right? I mean you have to give that to Gase, but yeah Gase is a horrible guy to have in charge.

    Flacco was terrible and should retire.

  110. stangerx says:

    Having Bryon Jones back is making a huge difference. Having one shutdown CB is great but having two is more than twice as good. With just one the QB just throws to the other side.

    • Mike E. says:

      If you watched the game yesterday, Flacco missed a wide open Perriman TWICE early on. He burned Jones and if Flacco was accurate they would have had a TD. Once he underthrew him allowing Jones to get back and the other throw I think may have been out of bounds, but he had a shot.

      • stangerx says:

        To me at least definition of shutdown isn’t that the guy never gets burned. It is that he is so good that you will let him go one-on-one with receivers and leave it at that.

    • steveccnv says:

      Now they just throw to whoever Needham is covering.

    • steveccnv says:

      Having 2 shutdown CBs changes the entire dynamics of what Flores is trying to do, he can blitz more and have the other 9 guys open to do whatever (open the playbook).

  111. Mike E. says:

    I thought Tua’s first throw was a dart. Nice throw to Laird.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It was a great throw, it was just for so little yardage no one cares

      Also he was upset with himself after the throw. I think he was thinking he waited too long to make the throw

  112. CavalierKong says:

    Victory Monday!

  113. wyoming85 says:

  114. CavalierKong says:

    Tua was Tua for Tua with Tua yds on his first throw.

  115. wyoming85 says:

    CavalierKong says:
    October 19, 2020 at 11:20 am
    Victory Monday!
    More like I’m scared to be optimistic Monday! 😉

  116. CavalierKong says:

    Was Gesicki held without a catch yesterday? Not that it matters, but I don’t remember him making a single play.

      • Mike E. says:

        This has been happening too often IMO. Sometimes Gesicki isn’t getting separation or Fitz is looking elsewhere but too often he’s not allowing Gesicki to make a play on the ball. He’s definitely not targeting him much at all.

      • steveccnv says:

        I think it’s a Fitz or a playcalling thing. He was known as a non friendly OC to TEs, even though Shaheen and Smythe ate yesterday.

        I really don’t care who makes the play. Do you want Gesicki to make a great play 60% of the time its thrown to him or the other 2 getting wide open chances?

    • wyoming85 says:

      2 targets
      0 Receptions

  117. CavalierKong says:

    Beat the Niners to get people’s attention.
    Beat the Jest to show you can win when you’re supposed to.
    Beat the Rams to show you belong in the playoff conversation.

    • stangerx says:

      I would add in that our three losses showed we can at least run with good teams….. but now we have to show we can beat them. Rams might do that.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yep, we really should have beaten Seattle.

        The Bills are the only team that whooped us pretty good. The game wasn’t as close as the score. But we played without Jones, and it was his guy Diggs that really ate us up. I expect a much better game from us in the rematch.

  118. CavalierKong says:

    Tua was Tua for Tua with Tua yards on play Tua.

    There ya go, Steve 😉

  119. steveccnv says:

    Aaron Donald coming up

  120. wyoming85 says:

  121. CavalierKong says:

    Rams play Monday night against the Bears, so we get an extra week to prepare for them, and they are on a short week against us.

  122. steveccnv says:

    55-54-1 all time vs jets, they lead.

  123. The Flying Pig says:

    It might have been Tua great throws

    But let’s not get Tua ahead of ourselves

  124. wyoming85 says:

  125. stangerx says:

    Standings from a division you won’t see on ESPN

    Brady 4-2
    Evil One 2-3

  126. pheloniusphish says:

    4 of the Rams wins came against the NFC East.

    • steveccnv says:

      Yeah, I saw that strange scheduling and stat last week. We really don’t know who the Rams are yet, but they should’ve beaten Buffalo. Lost on a homer PI call, just like the Rams beat Dallas on.

  127. steveccnv says:

    In last nights game they tried to give the Rams a fumble recovery, that they returned to the SF 10. The runner was touched and gave himself up before the ball was on the ground, ruled fumble on field. NFL rang the official saying to take another look. Ball was given back to SF.

    Were the real Rams on display last night? Not likely. Did we face the real 49ers? No, I think they’re somewhere in between.

  128. steveccnv says:

    Tua only threw 2 passes, but he showed what he can do against pressure and they were both right on the money and just the same as his college days. Fitz tends to get wild when he loses focus.

    2 passes Like he threw aren’t enough to evaluate him on, but I’d still start him against the Rams.

    I’m pretty sure we aren’t going to make any noise in the playoffs, if we get in with Fitz. With Tua? We might, because he may be pretty good come playoff time, if he can get us there.

    Fitz is too inconsistent.

  129. wyoming85 says:

  130. wyoming85 says:


  131. Randy says:

    The Yets are bad, but I’ll take any win in the division. Still a lot of inconsistent execution from this team. Plenty of work left to do. I don’t see a playoff caliber team but who knows? Enjoy a win…keep working and move on.

    • stangerx says:

      First shutout since 2014……. something to enjoy. But yeah still a raw team. Could make the playoffs but probably won’t. One of those teams that is in the conversation come December.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Kill joy…pissin’ in my Wheaties…

  132. wyoming85 says:

  133. wyoming85 says:

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  135. herdfan says:

    wyoming85 says:
    October 19, 2020 at 10:54 am (Edit)

    Congrats Herd!

    Marshall 35
    Louisiana Tech 17

    Your ranked #22 now!

    Yes!! Thank you for noticing. The Herd is playing well, exceptionally so considering our former starting QB left somewhat unexpectedly over the summer and we have a redshirt freshman starting and doing an amazing job.

    We play FAU this Saturday, I’m sure OD will have something to say about it this week.

  136. herdfan says:

    Does Gase still have a job today? I really don’t care all that much, not even enough to google it myself.

    • stangerx says:

      As of now. Their next 3 games are Bills, Chiefs and Pats. Gase makes it through those without a win and owner is only keeping Gase around as his fixer/loser on the #1 draft spot.

  137. pheloniusphish says:

    Lawrence should refuse to go to the Jets if they draft him.

  138. stangerx says:

    “we can’t f—ing wait until it’s the fourth quarter to f—ing want to start playing ball, man.”

    — Frank Gore…. who wish we’d kept btw.

    • New Age says:

      I like him where he’s at. No one will use him as much as Gase will. Once Gase is fired, expect to see Gore on the bench the rest of his career.

      • stangerx says:

        Just always liked the guy and he is 37 after all. Would still take him as a 3rd back in the stable.

  139. Mike E. says:

    Raekwon injured his shoulder, did he come back in the game after that? I didn’t notice

  140. CavalierKong says:

    Dolphins are one of four teams who have not lost a fumble this year.

  141. wyoming85 says:

  142. steveccnv says:

    Randy says:
    October 19, 2020 at 1:09 pm
    The Yets are bad, but I’ll take any win in the division. Still a lot of inconsistent execution from this team. Plenty of work left to do. I don’t see a playoff caliber team but who knows? Enjoy a win…keep working and move on.

    I don’t think Randy knows what he just wrote. When you can win 24-0 and have lots of inconsistent execution you must be a pretty good team. We’ve done just that in 3 blowout wins. In years past with no talent we had to play perfect or close to it to win.

  143. CavalierKong says:

    Dolphins have the 10th easiest schedule the rest of the season.

    • steveccnv says:

      Hmmm, what happened to that killer schedule they projected for us?

      But I still think its a tough schedule, it’s not about w/l record of the teams you’re going to be playing. The cheats are tougher than 2-3, the Bill’s are tough, Rams, Raiders, Chiefs…

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, I don’t really think SOS means much. So much about each individual matchup comes down to when you are playing someone and what is going on with the team on that given week.

        I.e. Any other week of the season we probably lose to the Niners or at the very least have a much tougher game.

      • CavalierKong says:


  144. CavalierKong says:

    Dolphins are tied for 7th in penalties per game at 4.7, which is down from 5.8 in 2019.

    We had 5 penalties on Sunday for only 25 yds.

  145. New Age says:

    Team is much better run than years past but we still have a lot of young guys trying to figure things out. I don’t think we are playoff caliber yet but with the added spot this year, we may slide in. I don;t see us making any noise if we do but it would be nice to accomplish.

    These blowouts help the refs side with us more often with their BS calls. That’s a definite positive moving forward.

  146. steveccnv says:

    The cheats and LAC are the only 2 teams on the jets schedule with a losing record. I see 0-16.

  147. Randy says:

    Around here, it doesn’t matter what you write. You just wait for a dozen people to tell you what they say you wrote and why it’s wrong. Lol

  148. Randy says:

    Did anyone else notice yesterday in the game when they showed a close up of Gase and were playing “These Eyes” I think as they were going to a break? I was laughing my ass off.

  149. steveccnv says:

    I’ve tried using the logic in the past of this team I hate has some blowout wins, but they haven’t beaten anyone yet. If you’re blowing multiple teams out in the NFL and aren’t getting blown out, you have a good team.

    What if we had beaten the cheats making the 1-4, they would be in the group of we haven’t beaten anyone yet, and buffalo too after they lose to the Chiefs they would’ve been 3-3.

    • bookman11 says:

      The good thing is, this isn’t college football, really doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks, or who you beat, or by how much, everything is decided on the field, ultimately. I think the other stuff can just be used as a gauge on progress…IMO

  150. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you?
    I needed a laugh! 😉

  151. steveccnv says:

    Texans remaining schedule:

    I see several, too many, winnable games there. They have one of the hardest schedules remaining though.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t get that concerned about it. Yeah it’s fun to root for the higher pick but we’ll see what happens. It will still be a quality pick regardless.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Jax, Det & Cin arent very good teams

      The rest of that schedule though…

      My prediction for the outcome of their season: 4-12

      Not a good record but the other side of that coin is that there are a lot of bad teams

      • Tim Knight says:

        The Texans aren’t good right now either but with 10 games left for the most part someone has to win and someone has to lose, so they can’t all finish with horrible records. There’s a lot of football that has to be played.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        hopefully shitty football by the Texans

  152. wyoming85 says:

  153. The Flying Pig says:

    On the Toobin thing, you would be surprised how many people are struggling their virtual world conferences

    A family court judge told me a couple of weeks ago, that one of the attorneys in a virtual conference stood up to state his appearance and was wearing tighty whities

    Standing up is customary when you state your appearance to the court on the record

    But I guess he miscalculated where the frame of his screen ends and begins

    • steveccnv says:

      Maybe the opposing coach needs to be smart enough to decline the penalty. There’s lots of game stopping hacks that can be done, that maybe needs to be unloopholed by the league. The ones I hate are when the officiating crew creates their own hack for the cheats. I’ve seen it several times.

      I think it was Vrabel that used one on belicheat last year. 4th down ball on about the cheats 40 and their opponent was punting, but kept running the clock with delay of game penalties, and ran off about an extra minute and a half. Belicheat was pissed.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Vrabel did that in the playoff game against the cheats. It was amusing because Belicheat used it earlier in the year and kind of brought it to everyone’s attention. Then it went against him when it mattered. They changed that rule this year to stop teams from doing it.

        In regards to opposing coaches declining the penalty. I don’t think declining is the smart move. Not a lot of coaches are going to decline a penalty that gives them a first down. Even in 2nd and short, nothing is a gimme. You lose a yd or two on 2nd, suddenly it’s 3rd and middling, and you end up with a FG instead of a TD.

        It’s more about Vrabel just maximizing every possible opportunity in that scenario. The Texans still should have won, but Vrabel gave his team a better chance and they capitalized.

  154. Tim Knight says:

    Go Chiefs!

  155. wyoming85 says:

  156. wyoming85 says:

    Snap counts OL

    OL Jesse Davis 56 (100%)
    OL Ereck Flowers 56 (100%)
    OL Ted Karras 56 (100%)
    OL Robert Hunt 56 (100%)
    OL Solomon Kindley 55 (98%)
    OL Adam Pankey 4 (7%)

  157. Ken says:

    Go Chiefs

  158. Tim Knight says:

    Does anyone know what’s up with Jordan Howard?

  159. Mike E. says:

    They’re saving Jordan Howard for the playoffs

    • Mike E. says:

      We have a weird history with RB’s. Guys like Lamar Miller and Kenyan Drake that we decided can’t be a bellcow back and then they go elsewhere and become that. Then we sign a bellcow back for $10M and start the previous year’s 7th RD pick and the guy we trade a 5th RD pick for also gets very limited playing time. It is strange, and it’s not ll the same regime either.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t think Lamar Miller or Kenyan Drake are good examples. Neither really have been bell cows for more than a moment or a season. But yes our commitment to the running game under Philbin and Gase was not good. Ricky Williams, and Lamar Smith for a season were bell cows. I don’t see it as a weird thing other than our team has not been built right for a long time.

  160. Randy says:

    We’re saving Howard for our big playoff run. 👍

  161. Krishna says:

    Maybe we know who Breida was and finding out who Gaskin is.

  162. steveccnv says:

    Enough of the running BS KC you need a score.

  163. Ken says:

    Ballgame thank you Chiefs

  164. steveccnv says:

    Shhhhh, don’t tell anyone… the Dolphins are coming, the Dolphins are coming.

  165. Krishna says:

    1 game out of first place in AFC east at 3-3. Nice.

  166. Krishna says:

    Hopefully, a week rest, new energy for next 10.

  167. Ken says:

    Oh we coming

  168. Tim Knight says:

    L Pats 21-11
    L Bills 31-28
    W Jags 31-13
    L Hawks 31-23
    W 49ers 43-17
    W Jets 24-0

    It’s okay. 🙂

  169. manitobafinfan says:

    0-5 Hulk looking good to upset 5-0 Mike E

  170. Ken says:

    Murray can’t throw

  171. Tim Knight says:

    What I liked about Flores putting Tua in there at the end of the game was; it was somewhat risky being deep in our own end, but the clock was winding down at 24-0 and they had the confidence as coaches to do it in that situation. Tua handled it well, nothing special. Now if he has to play, that first moment is over. 🙂

    • Krishna says:

      He did handle as the Jets were going to fuck t him if they could. He whacked me out with the release and then left handed. I was wtf was that?

      I might be ready. Lol!

  172. ocalarob says:

    Who’s better drake or gaskin

  173. Randy says:

    I think the only 2 guys I wasn’t happy about losing based purely on their talent were Tunsil and Fitzpatrick. But, I had no problem with either trade. I believe it was best for the long term plans for this team. One guy just didn’t want to be here and the other brought a fortune. Everybody else we let go….cya. And, like it or not, when you go scorched Earth, you probably gotta give up a little to start over and actually build a team as quickly as possible.

  174. manitobafinfan says:

    Ken : I thought Allen looked way off target tonight. And I don’t blame the rain

  175. Ken says:

    Jordan Phillips causes a fumble and Kenyon Drake scores a TD go Phin…oh wait a minute

  176. Randy says:

    Settle down Cheech! Ya know, we’ve been chatting for decades, and sometimes I still wonder if you actually read my damn texts. Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I did the LOL, man. I never got a text from you by the way. LOL

      I’m just BB/JK. We’re all watching the same thing.

  177. The Flying Pig says:

    I know some of you thought

    After shutting out the jets 24-0

    Going forward, Piggy will only post things about the Dolphins winning

    You were wrong

    I present to you: Japanese Dunkaccino commercial

  178. manitobafinfan says:

    Wow that was a sweet ass throw

  179. Ken says:

    That was a nice throw by Murray

  180. wyoming85 says:

    Screw both teams!

  181. Randy says:

    I actually picture you as more like Chong, so I never want to meet you in person to see the real you because I love Tommy Chong. Lol
    I saw the “Lol”, but I said what you said!!! Lol
    Seriously though….I’ve said I have liked what I’ve seen the past few weeks. I don’t have high expectations right now. I want to see them compete, play with energy and execute. Execution doesn’t always mean success, but I still want to see consistent execution. Sometimes the other teams will win the individual battles but execution can still be there. I’d like to see more, but I like the direction this team seems to be heading. I think we still need some personnel improvements, but we’re getting there.

  182. Krishna says:

    Thank you for saying all that in a text.

  183. Krishna says:

    Just a random thought….is OD ok?

    Rays in WS and not a peep.

  184. olddolphan says:

    KRISHNA: I’m OK but my wife is not. She was supposed to be released from the hospital Saturday. Well, here we are late Monday Night and she’s still there. She needs a series of physical therapy treatments because her leg with the knee replacement is not yet strong enough to support her. Can’t get out of bed. Can’t go to shower, etc., etc. And since I’m post-op for a double hernia I AM NOT ABLE TO HELP HER VERY MUCH.

    We’re waiting on the insurance company to see if they’ll cover her for transfer to a physical therapy facility. NOBODY seems to know WHEN the Gods will rule on this. But we hope it is SOON! Meanwhile, my honey is stuck in this surgical hospital! And we’re very busy at work. But, hey, no one said life was EASY, especially THIS OLD ARMY VETERAN!!! So we wait and hope.
    I’ve alternately gone ape shit over the RAYS in the World Series AND the Dolphins shutting out the hated Jets! I believe I’m the only member of this board who ATTENDED the last Dolphins shutout of the Jets. It happened when the Dolphins won the AFC Championship Game in (where else?) the Historic Orange Bowl 14-0 in a quagmire!! The trip to Super Bowl 17 was a trip I’ll never forget, even tho’ the Fins were edged out by the Redskins at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. David Woodley threw a 70-yard touchdown bomb to Jimmy Cefalo on the first play from scrimmage!! Woodley would complete ONLY 3 MORE PASSES THE ENTIRE GAME!! Ahhh–if we’d ONLY had Dan Marino at THIS GAME!!
    The 0 and 3 start seems like a distant memory, doesn’t it?? Some of us, however, didn’t give up on the season. NOW, with 3 straight blowout victories, the Fins are in 2nd Place just 1 game behind BEEFALO!!! I can’t tell you how HAPPY I AM to be AHEAD OF NEW ENGLAND in the standings!!
    I said the Dolphins would be a legitimate playoff contender THIS SEASON!! Get ready, Dolfans. —-
    THE BEST IS YET TO COME (barring devastating injuries).

    I hope many of you will keep my wife in your thoughts. Thank you all!

  185. New Age says:

    Wishing Mrs. OD the best as well!

    On to football, the media is such garbage. Looking at discussions for the week, the Jets allowing Gase to coach them down for L:awrence is a smart, calculated idea. Good for them!! When Miami played poorly for a new coach against playoff caliber games in his first 4 games, Miami must be PUNISHED for TANKING!

    Jets dump some elite starting level talent? Something’s not right but at least they can get Lawrence!
    Miami trades off players for a load of draft picks? They are TANKING! PUNISH THEM!

    The bias is overt and sickening…just like national media on just about all topics. Propagandists of the worst sort. I don’t mind seeing ESPN lose lots of staff and I hope to see more of it across the country.

    • Mike E. says:

      My wife is going to kill me because I point out the bias each and every day. This Biden Burisma story should be covered just as much as the Trump/Russia collusion, yet the media won’t give it a second. Did they have any proof and did they find anything with Trump, of course not, but they sullied him nonetheless. Why not let Biden get a little dirty now? They can’t do it, he’s their fucking (sleepy) white knight in shining armor against the bad orange man.

  186. Mike E. says:

    What I did notice about Tua was he ran about 10 yards away after each handoff away from the action. They probably told him don’t take any unnecessary hits so he made sure he got out of Dodge each and every time he could. I just rewatched it last night because it was cool!

  187. Mike E. says:

    Kong – Follow up on “The Sinner”. The 1st season actually was very good once it got going. The 2nd season wasn’t bad, but the 1st season was kinda riveting after the first couple of episodes. Now we’re watching “Away” with Hilary Swank and Josh Charles. Just OK at best through a couple of episodes.

  188. Mike E. says:

    OD – Best wishes to you and the Mrs.

  189. olddolphan says:

    MY SINCERE thanks to all of you for your kind words of support. WE are hoping the insurance company makes a decision TODAY so that we can get my wife the physical therapy she so desperately needs. Sometimes our medical system doesn’t work so well.
    OFF TO WORK! Mrs. OD and I love all U guyz and galz!!!

  190. wyoming85 says:

    My thoughts are with you and yours OD!

  191. steveccnv says:

    A lot of the numbers, especially on D look good through 6 games. We’ve had some key players out too. The next man up has done his job, but that’s what our D is designed for, other than the CBs, everyone else is just a scheme fit.

    On O we seem to go as Fitz takes us, some games good and we get a blowout, some not so good and we lose. I expect to see more consistency once Tua starts playing, less highs and lows initially, then highs mixed in with good play.

    On his first pass Tua looked fast to the outside avoiding the pressure, then throwing a short strike. He appeared to go thru his progressions on his 2nd pass, and anything but a strike would’ve resulted in not getting the 1st down.

    The future is bright, go Fins.

  192. steveccnv says:

    OD, good luck tonight, but not too much😉

  193. steveccnv says:

    OD, I was supposed to go to the14-0 win over the jets in 1982, but was sick, so I stayed home. I believe it was a rainy day and AJ Duhe had 3 picks.

  194. herdfan says:


    All the best to Mrs OD(and you) for a speedy recovery.

  195. wyoming85 says:

    • Mike E. says:

      Sounds like he’s going to be traded. There’s going to be some team who lost a RB that might be willing to give up a late pick for him.

  196. Mike E. says:

    Rock – If any of this Biden stuff is true, and I’d be willing to bet a certain amount of it is, the media still wants no part of it. That’s my point Rock, they pick and choose what to grab onto and run with and what to sweep away because they don’t like it.

  197. CavalierKong says:

    Positive vibes out to you and the missus, OD.

  198. CavalierKong says:

    Mike, glad you guys ended up liking the Sinner. I still thought it was meh. I’m working my way through the 2nd season of The Boys right now. I have Away in my list of shows to watch. It looked interesting. You’ll have to let me know if it picks up.

    • Mike E. says:

      Sinner really became interesting in Season 1, what happened to her. Pullman was pretty good as well. He’s good in Season 2 also, the kid was really good.

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