2020 Miami Dolphins Season Recap

I know it’s hard to push the last game of the season out of your minds, but if you just set it aside for a bit, you can appreciate what was accomplished by our team in a very promising rebuilding season. Like Tim has said many times, the NFL season is divided into quarters. We lost the 1st quarter of the season. We finished the 1st QTR of the season 1-3 winning only against the Jacksonville Jaguars and losing 2 division games, one to the Patriots and one to the Bills. We let a game get away from us against Seattle too. Not a good start. First Quarter / 1-3

The 2nd Quarter of the season is where we started to turn some heads. We blew out and dismantled the SF 49ers in their house. We pummeled Niners QB Jimmy Garopplo sacking him 5 times and turned them over 3 times for an impressive blowout 43-17 victory. 1-0. The Dolphins then cruised to an easy 24-0 win over the hapless Jets to start this quarter 2-0. The Dolphins schedule was affected by COVID-19 and thus forced us to take our BYE week 6 weeks earlier, so Week 5 it was, rather than Week 11. This schedule change ended up causing the Dolphins to make an earlier change at QB as the Tua Tagovailoa era in Miami began. In a game that really opened up the eyes of the talking heads, the Dolphins gave the LA Rams the same treatment they gave the Niners and made Jared Goff look bad. Whispers were happening that this Dolphins defense just might be for real. We turned over the Rams 4 times in an impressive win over the 5-2 Rams. So far, 3-0 this quarter. The Dolphins then faced their second 5-2 NFC team in a row in the Kyler Murray led Arizona Cardinals. It was a back and forth affair but for the first time, the Dolphins actually had to lean on their young QB and he came through to lead the Dolphins to a 4th quarter come from behind victory, 34-31. This is where we made our hay. Second Quarter/ 4-0 (5-3 overall)

The Dolphins began the 3rd quarter of the season against the 2-6 LA Chargers. This was to be the highly touted matchup of rookie QB’s Justin Herbert against Tua Tagovailoa. As it turned out, Tua had the better game by a slight margin as the Dolphins defense picked off Herbert once and sacked him twice. The Dolphins won 29-21. 1-0. The Dolphins then traveled to Mile High. The Broncos defense confused and abused QB Tua Tagovailoa and made Tua look like a rookie QB. Both RB’s Melvin Gordon ran for over 80 yards and the Dolphins for the first time brought in relief pitcher Ryan Fitzpatrick. Tua got banged up and there was no Fitzmagic this day as the Dolphins went to 6-4 losing 20-13. 1-1. A welcome relief in sight, the Dolphins traveled to NJ to play the Jets again in another relatively uncontested game. Ryan Fitzpatrick cruised the Dolphins to a 20-3 victory. 2-1. Tua returned from injury to face the Joe Burowless Bengals and the Dolphins defense picked off both Brandon Allen and Ryan Finley for a 19-7 victory. 3-1. Third Quarter / 3-1 (8-4 overall)

The Dolphins started the final quarter of the season hosting the AFC Beast Kansas City Chiefs and we sort of gave them a game, we played a lot of catchup after the Chiefs got to a 30-10 3rd quarter lead. Tua rallied the Dolphins for 17 4th QTR points but it was too little too late as the Dolphins fell 33-27. Valiant effort really, but a loss nonetheless. 0-1. The Dolphins then hosted the New England Patriots for a much needed rematch and the Dolphins were up to the task. Although we had a sluggish first half and were down 9-7, the Dolphins took control in the 2nd half outscoring the Patriots 15-3 for a well deserved win. 1-1. The Dolphins traveled to Sin City to the Las Vegas Raiders beautiful new home, Allegiant Stadium. The Dolphins offense featured Tua Tagovailoa dinking and dunking through 3 plus quarters completing 17-22 passes for just 94 yards and 1 TD. 9:47 mark of the 4th QTR HC Brian Flores pulled starting QB Tua Tagovailoa with the Dolphins trailing 16-13 and QB Ryan Fitzpatrick makes his 2nd relief appearance, his first not due to an injury. You all know the story, the Raiders went up 22-16 with just 0:19 seconds remaining which led to the Fitzmagic drive that will always be an image we can remember as his head was twisted to the point where he couldn’t see where the throw was going but was complete to WR Mack Hollins at the LV 41 yard line and then the 15 yard facemask penalty spotted the ball at the 26 yard line which set up the Jason Sanders game winning 44 yard FG. 2-1. Then the wheels went off the track against the division bully Buffalo Bills. The wounds are still fresh so I’ll spare you, we lost badly, an unfortunate embarrassing end to what was a very promising season. Fourth Quarter / 2-2. (10-6 overall)

So the Dolphins finished the season with a 10-6 record, 2nd in the AFC East. Even the most optimistic fans didn’t see this coming. I think the defense really surprised us, there were many things that despite the last game letdown, lead you to believe this team is not too far away from having a great defense. Like the great Dolphins defenses of the 1970’s, this is also a no name defense. CB Xavien Howard is likely the one player that casual NFL fans know, and maybe Kyle Van Noy because the Patriots were so visible. Our defense is young, really young, and guys that we drafted last year and this year are already cornerstones of that defense. DL Christian Wilkins drafted last year, DL Raekwon Davis drafted this year, LB Andrew Van Ginkle (last year) and to a lesser extent, DL Jason Strowbridge who was part of the rotation on the D-line. The guys we brought in in free agency solidified the defense. LB Kyle Van Noy was a great leader on the field, DE Emmanuel Ogbah had a very strong 3/4 of the season but faded out late in the season. OLB Shaq Lawson was also effective but less so than Ogbah. #55, Jerome Baker had his best season as a Miami Dolphin LB. If you give a good player better players around him, you will see his play rise with the talent around him.

This brings me to the offense. The one place where I believe all Dolphins fans should be thrilled about is the offensive line. This unit made great strides this season, comprised of mostly rookies. Rookie LT Austin Jackson started most of the year when he was healthy, and so did rookie OG’s Solomon Kindley and T/G Robert Hunt. Swingman Jesse Davis played every position but C on the O-line this season and is a keeper for his versatility and selflessness. Veteran C Ted Karras did a nice job this season but will be a free agent in 2021. Do we re-sign Karras, or Is Michael Deiter ready to man the C position, do we draft a center or do we go free agency again?

We need playmakers. We have a few guys that can be considered playmakers but one such player like DeVante Parker has once again proven he can’t be counted on for 16 games during the season. He played in parts of 14 games, but was hampered by injury and ineffective in a few. When he was healthy he was fantastic as always, but he still finished with a rather pedestrian season, 63 catches for 793 yards and 4 TD’s. Mike Gesicki is another one, and I wish I knew whether it was Gailey, Fitz or Tua or a combination of all 3 that sometimes just completely ignored him. Gesicki had a nice season with 53 catches for 703 yards and 6 TD’s but I think he can do so much more. I think he’s nearly as talented as LV TE Darren Waller who saw nearly DOUBLE the targets Gesicki got. We will be drafting WR’s in the 2021 NFL Draft, make no mistake. We need to build and give QB Tua Tagovailoa legitimate WR’s to throw to. At RB, I think Myles Gaskin is a really nice #2, like an Austin Ekeler type of player. He could be a #1 if necessary but I think we need more of a downhill runner who can push the pile and run more with more physicality. So often I saw both he and Salvon Ahmed downed by first contact.

The nice thing is the Laremy Tunsil trade has afforded us two more great picks in the 2021 NFL Draft, #3 in RD1 and #36 in RD2. We have 9 picks in all, two 1st RD picks, two 2nd RD picks and then 5 more distributed in the next 5 rounds. Building this offense is paramount to making Tua Tagovailoa a better QB. As I mentioned earlier with Jerome Baker, good players play better with better talent around them. He needs reliable receivers, a RB that can carry the load and pass block and stout OL, which I feel we’re well on our way with the O-line. Keep building that defense, AVG may be a star in the making and I really liked Elandon Roberts but I feel like he’s more of a 2 down player. A guy like Micah Parsons could really elevate this LB corps and the defense as a whole.

We have such a young nucleus on this team. I think we will add another nice veteran or two in free agency. Draft strong and just use free agency to fill in spots, not as a crutch. I think we have that formula down now. We have about $32M to spend but we’re not going to be big spenders anymore. We’re building, and I think we could be in the top 10 teams of 2021 and should be in the playoffs. In 2022, who knows? 1 year at a time, and for us Dolphins fans, 2020 was a good one!


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1,078 Responses to 2020 Miami Dolphins Season Recap

  1. bailbondmike says:

    I said before last years draft and before DeVonta Smith decided to return to school that he was the best receiver on the team. There were many wanting Jeudy or Riggs but I insisted Smith was better. Looking at what he did this year without Waddle says a lot. Dude isn’t just sneaky fast but is football smart and crafty as hell. IMO, he is WR1 and you take him at #3 and don’t look back.

    The young man is special

  2. ocalarob says:

    You’re judging Smith on what he did against inferior talent, he won’t have that luxury in the NFL, If you’re drafting a wr at #3 overall, his last name has to be Johnson.
    as in Andre or Calvin.

  3. Orob
    You’re judging Smith on what he did against inferior talent, he won’t have that luxury in the NFL, If you’re drafting a wr at #3 overall, his last name has to be Johnson.
    as in Andre or Calvin.
    the SAME point can be made about 100 percent of all NCAA players for infinity,

    guess we should cancel ALL drafts and never take NCAA inferior talents, they are not as good as the NFL< and never will be, lol ????

    seriously, the only real way to find out about ANY player is draft them, and see what shakes out

    • ocalarob says:

      Not saying he’s a bad wr, I just don’t think we pick him at #3, there should be better options, I;m hoping we use that pick to get more early picks in this draft and in the future.

      What’s more valuable two # 1’s @ #8 and # 18 & three #2’s & two # 1’s & 2’s next year or Smith?

      we need enough shit to throw against the wall to make sure some stick.

  4. consider that Grant weighs 165 pounds soaking wet, and has been MORE healthy than the much larger WR Williams and Parker

    the extra weight doesnt keep parker and williams healthy, and the petite size , does not make grant injury prone

  5. ocalarob says:

    Smith is not the 3rd best prospect in this draft so taking him at 3 would be a reach

  6. draft picks are like stocks, lol
    you select 10 of them based on past fundamentals, and future upside, but all of them dont pan out,

    the plan is to hit on at least 8 of them, and then You will do very well

    • ocalarob says:

      if you don’t have the $/picks you cant afford to pick 10, picking smith @3 is not diversified.

      • that could be true, but Smith will go very high based on 2 factors, He won the Heismann, and He won the National Championship

        these 2 accomplishments were not handed to him, he earned them, scouts, GM,s, etc are salivating over him and he will be a top 10 selection, maybe as high as 3-5

  7. Devonta Smith destroying Ohio State,,,

  8. Orob, You obviously were not happy with Tua last season, and all of us are ready to see him take a step forward in his second season. Smith, the top playmaker in the draft, has chemistry with Tua, they were teammates at Alabama , and obviously that would help Tua make the biggest improvement of anything we could do

    i know You like Sewell, everyone does, but Sewell isnt a playmaker, and the team needs top playmakers at the WR and RB positions

  9. pheloniusphish says:

    I tend to agree with ORob to some extent. Rather trade back at three. Smith is good, but could still be there from 6-10.

  10. sb7mvp says:

    Super Bowl teams in the modern era are usually ones that don’t spend high first rounders on wide receivers. I know there will be some you can build a championship team any kind of way and it doesn’t matter, but history and data do not lie. That being said, we overachieved last year and we definitely need an influx of talent. We more than likely aren’t super bowl bound in 2021 so I don’t see it setting us back, but I don’t see it moving us forward like a big ugly or a generational talent could do.

  11. stangerx says:

    Mando spoke to three Dolphin’s players who weren’t all that impressed by Tua.
    But the players also say they don’t see a special trait in Tagovailoa’s skill set beyond his accuracy.

    One defensive player said he isn’t impressed with Tagovailoa’s ball velocity or arm strength or ability to make off-schedule plays with his legs. So he ultimately questions whether Tagovailoa will ever be able to match the feats of other quarterbacks in the AFC such as Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson.

    “Those are the boys we got to beat, right?” this player said. “It looks right now like that’s going to be a big challenge.”

    While Dolphins promise to evaluate entire team some players have evaluated Tua Tagovailoa

    • The Flying Pig says:

      We actually don’t have to beat Watson, the Texans can barely get out of their own way

      Sorry I don’t really buy Mando’s bs that players decided to speak with him about their QB

  12. wyoming85 says:

    Mondo’s opinion and 2 cents would get you 2 Swedish fish in the 1970’s!

    • stangerx says:

      Would normally agree, but he is quoting 3 players. Even if anonymous ones….. but makes sense why they are too.

      • wyoming85 says:

        I could quote anonymous subscribers.
        But if your dumb enough to pay for Mondo, you would give your name!

      • stangerx says:

        Don’t pay for his stories, but this one came up for whatever reason. Maybe hadn’t hit my 3 free for the month or whatever. Had stuff in quotes….. don’t think he’d make up.

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    Do you guys remember when Mando was on the Dawn Aponte is secretly taking over the Dolphins kick

    Good times….

  14. olddolphan says:

    IT IS WITH DEEP REGRET that I have to report both Mrs. OD and I are in lock down mode suffering from the Corona Virus. We’ve been told we’ll be OK to come out of our “CAVE” next Wednesday, a week from today!! Needless to say, my wife’s physical therapy sessions, which are greatly needed to recover from Knee replacement surgery, are on hold for now.
    Our state government leaders in Tallahassee have, so far, totally FAILED to come up with a workable plan to get those needles into arms that have the vaccines!! Hundreds of thousands of vials are sitting in storage facilities while our governor and the party in power does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to get the ball rolling!!!
    It’s CRIMINAL!!
    Hope all of you wear masks, practice social distancing, and wash your hands frequently. NOT wearing a mask doesn’t prove your a masculine man. It only proves you are DANGEROUSLY STUPID!!!

    • stangerx says:

      Shiot. Do you guys have it or are you in quarantine cause came in contact with someone who does?

      • olddolphan says:

        DON’T KNOW the answer to the question. But, somewhere about 10-14 days ago, we obviously were exposed to someone who was a carrier. Perhaps an asymptomatic carrier. In my particular case, I had a very mild cough, a slight drippy nose that lasted a day or two, no pain at all, and a WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURE that averaged 97.2 to 97.6 degrees on multiple different thermometers. That consistent below average temperature lulled me into a false sense of security. Even my oldest daughter (a research scientist) thought their was no chance I had the Covid given these symptoms.
        WE were all wrong.
        WELL, Mrs. OD is stuck with ME for the next week!! – – Lucky her!

      • stangerx says:

        You are the last person on this board who should have gotten the thing. And just as you were eligible for the vax.

        I’m just happy to hear the symptoms are mild. Some people just get hit bad….. but sounds like you are not one. Feel bad for Penny being licked down with you though. 🙂

  15. Mike E. says:

    OD, sorry to hear that you both have COVID-19. Godspeed in your recoveries!

  16. ElephantRider says:

    Here we go with anonymous quotes again….

  17. Mike E. says:

    Honestly, fuck players that speak out against their teammates. They should be cut. If I were coach, I would find them and send them on their way. Besides Parker, not a fucking one of them was reliable catching the ball anyway, so . . .

  18. stangerx says:

    After the riots and being locked down for 6 hours, Congressman Andy Kim (of NJ Mike and Tim) went back to vote on confirming the electoral votes. Instead of listening to the arguments about the election being rigged…. he decided to help clean the place up in btwn votes. Just grabbed a roll of garbage bags and went to it.

    “This is a building that deserves and demands our respect. As I stood there, looking at the rotunda, my heart was broken. I just felt compelled. It wasn’t something I planned to do. I just saw this room that I love so much, and it was in such disrepair and I wanted to fix it. For the first time that day, I had a mission and my mission was cleaning.”

  19. Ken says:

    Godspeed to you and Mrs OD for a speedy recovery

  20. ocalarob says:

    I guess I’m not the only one who thinks tua sucks

  21. ocalarob says:

    Get well mr & mrs OD

  22. ocalarob says:

    I sure hope we get Fitzpatrick back I don’t know of another quarterback that will be as good or available in free agency

  23. Tim Knight says:

    OD, wishing you and Mrs. OD the best and back to good health.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    So what’s this thing about players calling others out?

  25. wyoming85 says:

  26. Tim Knight says:

    Is it written into law that every Dolphins season and offseason has to have some type of controversy created by outside forces? WTF?!!!!!

    I’m just glad that Grier and Flores are so grounded in their vision.

    • Rockphin says:

      You just notice it about the dolphins but it is every team. Just check out any fan site. We all complain like life is unfair to us. LOL send

      • Tim Knight says:

        Disagree. The media was basically having an orgy with the Bucs in the offseason, then they restrained themselves for a period during the season just giving hand jobs before putting all out again. LOL

  27. Tim Knight says:

    • mf13ss says:

      Take it for what it’s worth… it’s just an opinion. And NO… I’m not a fan of Pat McAfee.

    • Tim Knight says:

      This is just them discussing the issue really.

      If Tua needed an extra motivation this issue is it. I always thought he was going to work his ass off to get better in the offseason anyway, now he has a chip on his shoulder. Go Tua!!!! Go Phins!!!!

  28. wyoming85 says:

  29. Rockphin says:

    OD I hope you and the Mrs. are well soon! Look at the bright side now you don’t have to get the vaccine.

  30. manitobafinfan says:

    I actually really like Pat Macafee , but most of that is pro wrestling based opinion so take it for what it’s worth ..

  31. manitobafinfan says:

    Best of luck OD and Missus.

  32. son of a son of a shula says:

    Considered by many including our own OD to be even better than the 72 team on this day 47 years ago the ‘73 Dolphins beat the Vikings in SB8. Larry Csonka ran over the Purple People Eaters for 145 yds and 2 TD’s being the games MVP.

    All the best OD to you and Mrs OD

  33. Mike E. says:

    TDS still running wild on FB. 9 days left in office and they’re still frothing at the mouth. It’s sad.

  34. i see ALOT of people prefer to live their lives in unfounded fear, its NOT neccesary, even though its part of conservative fearmongering and deceit

    people that lie and claim Biden is in the basement and he will make us speak Chinese Mandarin, and other ridiculous lies being spread around,
    might scare someone thats extra gullible, but no matter who U voted for, thats BS, and makes a person look like they need to get a room or something while they are bobbing for orange mushrooms, lol

    TMI, SMH

  35. 4 trump supporters were killed at the capital attempted takeover, and their surviving families blame Trump,
    i DOUBT they were suffering from TDS, SMH

    The brother-in-law of one of the women who died during the riot at the Capitol on Wednesday is blaming Donald Trump for inciting the violence.
    Rosanne Boyland, 34, was killed as the mob rushed the Capitol building and one of four Trump supporters killed on Wednesday. A U.S. Capitol police officer later died from injuries sustained during the rioting as well.

    Justin Cave, who is married to Boyland’s sister, shared a prepared statement with CBS 46 blaming he president for inciting the deadly pro-Trump riot and calling for him to leave office.

    “I’ve never tried to be a political person but it’s my own personal belief that the president’s words incited a riot that killed four of his biggest fans last night and I believe that we should invoke the 25th Amendment at this time,” Cave said, adding that Boyland’s family is “grieving on every level for our country, for all the families that have lost loved ones or suffered injuries, for our own loss.”
    People Magazine
    Im sorry for these trump supporters loss, even if i feel they should not have been there

    gotta roll, keep it real guys

  36. pheloniusphish says:

    Way to go Mike. Now you have them frothing here.

  37. sb7mvp says:

    Claiming that TDS isn’t real then going on a 10 post rant fueled by TDS is the definition of irony.

  38. sb7mvp says:

    Also, Pat McAfee is trash.

  39. Krishna says:


  40. Mike E. says:

    Football season is over for Dolphins fans, have at it. I was just sharing an observation. I’m almost certain that even after Biden is in office, the one driving force of discussion will still be Trump. If that’s not TDS, what is? He’s done, stick a fork in him, but he’s still the #1 topic. Why? My opinion is that our washed up puppet President elect isn’t worthy of conversation, it’s like talking about a wet rag. Trump is like a wet rag doused with gasoline. Impeach him! Impeach him! I don’t care if he gets impeached again or not. Why would I?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      A week ago, a group of his supporters stormed the Capitol and took the American flag down from the Capitol in place of a trump flag. They defecated on the floor. They brought tactical zip ties. They placed pipe bombs around the Capitol. They killed police officers.

      It’s certainly worthy of discussion without being reduced to TDS

      Dysfunction is acting like that’s normal

      • Mike E. says:

        Piggy – Yeah, and all I keep hearing is that he ordered this to happen. That’s garbage. Sorry, it just is. It’s funny, a woman I know accidentally opened the door for a lot of questions. She was posting about how a black woman was killed at the Capitol during a protest and she was unarmed yet this motley crew was basically allowed in without any resistance. Any ideas why that might have happened? Why were they just allowed to go in? You have to wonder how and why that happened

      • wyoming85 says:

        They finished the FBI investigations already?
        ( That’s like saying everyone who hated Trump is an ANTIFA rioter and burns down stores)

        If it’s just 2 buckets – well you have to be in one or the other right?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I didn’t say it was ordered by anyone

        It happened

        It shouldn’t be downplayed

        It’s a branch of govt being attacked to stop the certifying of the vote. I don’t have to add to it. That’s what it was in plain sight

        I think there’s a nondiscriminatory reason that woman was shot – she was alone

        You shouldn’t need to declared TDS every time some one says some thing you don’t agree with that happens to include the president

        People have been downplaying what this president does and how crazy his supporters can be for years now and it’s brought his to a really unsafe place

        I’m all for criticizing the people who criticize trump when they something you disagree with. You should be able to do that without generalizing and downplaying what happened last week

        I’m not embarrassed to be furious about seeing what those dirtbags did at the Capitol

        There isn’t any red hearing or false equivalency that makes what they did any better to me. And if some one is just as mad but says something stupid (which I see all the time) it doesn’t distract me from wanting to take action to prevent what happened last week and to hold the people who did it accountable

  41. Mike E. says:

    FWIW, I’ll have a new article later today, you all can decide what you want to talk about, it’s your domain.

  42. Mike E. says:

    Wyo – It’s trash. I was over Trump losing, willing to move on but the Dems can’t take their fucking eye off Trump. TDS is at it’s highest right now. They should just be happy they have all the power right now, I can’t wait to see all the good things they can accomplish with that being the case.

  43. The Flying Pig says:


    I don’t understand your comment at10:01?

    • wyoming85 says:

      What don’t you understand?

      The Me Too movement breached the Capitol over Kavanaugh.

      I didn’t hear insurrection during that.

      What I really meant to say is I hate being lumped into one bucket!!!!!!

      I supported Trumps policy’s. That doesn’t mean I wanted to blow up congress!

      Did you run around burning stores and stealing sneakers? I doubt it!

      The “Trump dog whistle” thing has been the dumbest talked about subject the last 4 years! (An that takes a LOT!)

  44. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – If Trump didn’t order this to happen, on what grounds are all the Democrats up in arms and wanting to impeach Trump again? Please explain?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He doesn’t have to order something to be happen to be inciting some one or a group of people

      That’s not what inciting. Ordering it would be a different charge like conspiracy.

      Incitement is not like being a participant or organizing it. It’s actions and words that might lead to that result. I don’t know what the federal charge is but incitement doesn’t mean he ordered or participated in it.

      The charge is in incitement of insurrection

      Your focusing on the wrong facts

      • wyoming85 says:

        There are no “facts”

        There is only Nancy’s hate! That’s a fact!

        Everything else is conjecture

      • The Flying Pig says:

        You have to to be kidding me…

        They’ve already charged people with crimes and expecting to charge hundreds more. People that were charged for acts they committed on camera….lol

        They get a right to trial like anyone else, but it doesn’t look good

        Filming a crime is not conjecture…come on…

  45. ocalarob says:

    only the left incite riots, see Kamala Harris interview mark 5:37 on BLM & Antifa riots.

    “They’re not going to let up and they should not”
    Clearly inciting the riots by the left last summer.

    Can’t wait till her impeachment trial starts.

    it’s amazing the abundant hypocrisy and how it has affected many, even on this site.

  46. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – I don’t get it, never will. When Left wing nutjobs took over cities and there were violent protests, no one in power from the left denounced these things or tried to stop them. This is precisely the merry go round I’m talking about it. They fostered those things as much Trump fostered this.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      People who commit crimes get charged with crimes
      Presidents who commit crimes get impeached

      I’m sorry to be so blunt about it
      But that’s just silly logic on your part. If every time you see a wrong, you point to another wrong you see and say “what about that”. All you are doing is avoiding taking action against the wrong

      Besides, Many people were charged with crimes last summer. They weren’t impeached bc they were the president….lol.

      You guys that being this up act like people weren’t charged with crimes last summer. That’s just not true.

      The better way to think about it is if they were charged than the president can be charged. Not, other people did it too, so everything is cool. That’s ridiculous logic

      • ocalarob says:

        You’re jumping to conclusions, what exactly was Trumps crime?
        do you define this statement as a crime?

        “peacefully go to the capitol and let your patriotic voice be heard”

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I’m not coming to a conclusion. I think he has a right to trial like anyone else.

        The charge is incitement of insurrection. There are facts that need to be proved. He will have the benefit of defending against those things at a trial

        The actual acts that occurred inside the Capitol aren’t disputable. If you look at my first post to Mike, you will see that is what I was talking about not the charge against trump

        The idea that some one else other than those people who are ardent trump supporters isn’t very credible either

        Whether trump did enough to meet the threshold of incitement, is a legitimate debate but that’s where most of the bs on this blog about the subject. I’m not going to debate that with this crowd…

  47. ocalarob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 14, 2021 at 10:15 am
    I don’t even know how you can be so blind to it. The Capitol was raided by people trying to stop the certification of vote . You may have been over it – and the the president was eager to foster that

    any decertification would have had to been done at the state level, he said to;
    “peacefully go to the capitol and let your patriotic voice be heard”
    i don’t see inciting a riot in that statement.

    I’m surprised you are brainwashed into believing the hypocrisy of these hard left idiots.

    they are guilty at every turn of their accusations against trump.

    Biden withheld funds from Ukraine, hello the 1st impeachment.
    Harris incited the summer riots on tape above, hello the 2nd impeachment.

    wake up Piggy, they are coming after you too.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      The states chose to certify the votes. Congress is just recording that. It doesn’t have to happen at the state level, this happens in every election….lol

      Incitement is not one statement , whether you sprinkled in “peaceful” or not in with other statements is not the scope fo what is looked at. Incitement is everything a person did that may have lead to that event.

      Biden doesn’t even have the power to withhold funds….I mean wtf

    • steveccnv says:


      The Trump supporters were led/conned into the Capital by Antifa. Antifa did most of the destruction. This is all fact shown in the videos.

      The lady killed was shot in cold blood by the police, if they get to the bottom of it, it was either ordered or just some far left whackjob that shot her.

      All she was doing was banging on the glass, that shouldn’t warrant being shot. Other cops were standing 5 feet behind her, when shot and everyone in that stairwell wasn’t being violent or destructive.

      Pig, you asked me that day, if I condemn what happened. Yes, I condemn what Antifa and the left staged that day.

  48. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ok so is it incumbent for Miami to get Watson just so the Pats don’t?

    If they do we’re back to maybe third in the division, with Watson we contend for Super Bowls 🤷‍♂️

  49. ocalarob says:

    I would be shocked if Miami pursued Watson.
    what that would mean is they gave up everything they were trying to do thru the draft, and they made a huge mistake drafting Tua.
    i don’t think they will concede their mistakes at this point if in fact Tua was a mistake

  50. olddolphan says:

    A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS: IT SEEMS LIKE both Mrs. OD and your’s truly have a mild form of the virus. SO FAR, that is. BOTH of us slept like logs last night. And, thanks to my culinary expertise, we are also eating well. A friend is going to do minimal shopping for us until the “ALL CLEAR DAY” arrives next Wednesday. BOTH of our dogs (the 75 pound Greyhound and the 15 pound mixed breed) realize that something’s not quite right. But they are getting fed regularly and seem to enjoy BOTH of us being home at the same time.
    There’s an upside to getting this virus. The Covid anti-bodies our bodies will produce SHOULD last for at least several months and should prevent us from contracting the virus for quite some time. That’s GREAT because the political leadership of FLORIDA is absolutely INCAPABLE of creating a system that gets the vaccine into arms of those who need it the most. BOTH me and Mrs. OD are in our mid-70’s. And we have NO HOPE AT ALL of getting the vaccine in the next month–and, maybe, the next 2 or 3 months. SO, these anti-bodies will provide some measure of protection until the two major parties get off their fat asses and provide us with a plan THAT WORKS!!
    MY PLAN would be to open up all the major sports stadiums and facilities and man them with military personnel trained to give injections. Keep these facilities open 24-7 for at least the next several months until those who want the vaccine actuall GET THE VACCINE!!!

  51. The Flying Pig says:

    They weren’t lead by antifa dude….Come on…

    There’s a video of the lady killed
    She was trying to get past a glass door with a group of other angry TRUMP supporters and secret service shot her

    You should condemn the whole thing instead of trying to parse it out

    • steveccnv says:

      So you’re saying Antifa wasn’t there? I saw angry supporters, but not violent ones. They didn’t have the demeanor that Antifa has shown in their protests.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        The people who have been charged by the fbi have been trump supporters not antifa

        I think that speaks for itself p

      • steveccnv says:

        It speaks to more of the same cover up we saw with Hillary, Bidens, and everything else the left does that’s illegal.

        Breaking the windows was done by Antifa, they’ve identified their members in the videos.

  52. wyoming85 says:

    I’ll put on my OD suit

    Show me the PROOF! Facts!

    Your just pushing a conspiracy theory!

  53. steveccnv says:

    The same people that say Antifa didn’t instigate the violence at the capital or wasn’t even their are the same ones saying there wasn’t any election fraud.

    If there wasn’t any election fraud why won’t they allow the forensic audits on the Dominion machines? Why wouldn’t they let let the pole watchers oversee the ballots?

    All we hear is you can’t bring the case, because of standing or the election was perfect.

  54. ocalarob says:

    maybe trump supporters did get out of line, we don’t know all the facts, but that is not the question at hand.
    did trump incite these actions by saying;

    “peacefully go to the capitol and let your patriotic voice be heard”

    and what did trump do wrong to “lead up to that event”???

    be more specific, just shouting out leftist accusations doesn’t hold any weight.

  55. Mike E. says:

    OK, let’s cut through the shit here. Tell me exactly what crime Trump perpetrated and what he should be tried for? I want a clear answer here please

    • steveccnv says:

      Cue in the music for final Jeopardy… Pelosi tearing up Trump’s State of the Union speech was more of a crime, but again nothing ever happens to the left, because they have control.

  56. ocalarob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 14, 2021 at 10:31 am
    The states chose to certify the votes. Congress is just recording that. It doesn’t have to happen at the state level,

    exactly what i said, to decertify the results would have to come at the state level. so trying to storm the capitol to overturn the results is moot.
    Trump knows that,
    to the point the left are trying to find a narrative that trump told his people to storm the capitol to overturn the election which is a farce

  57. wyoming85 says:

    I keep hearing “why do you bring up this ar that? That’s a what-a-bout argument!

    Most of the time it’s to bring out the Hypocrisy of the argument!

    The rest of the time it’s to tell you that the high horse your setting on has no legs!

  58. Mike E. says:

    If Trump asked for a protest, a civil, peaceful protest, how can he be guilty if the protest became anything other than peaceful or civil? This is what I need explained to me. It’s pretty clear what words he used, so if anything else happened, I don’t see how he can be responsible. I suppose we should have Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi make that decision, because they are the nations conscience.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      by looking at everything he did and said instead of just narrowly looking at one statement

      You arent having Schumer or Pelosi make that decision. You are having a collection of elected officials vote on it. I seem to remember people saying Elections have consequences

  59. wyoming85 says:

    Did anyone else find it interesting that the Republicans that voted yes on impeachment were 90% from the states that had contested votes?

    Except for Liz!
    I’d hate to be her campaign advisor next election in Wyoming!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Tom Rice is from SC, kinziger is from IL, Newhouse is from WA, Gonzales is from Ohio, Katko is from NY

      I don’t think this is accurate

  60. sb7mvp says:

    oh lord. all the crazies are ranting now. lol

  61. olddolphan says:

    THAT’s RIGHT, WYOMING!! – – Show me the facts, not the theories.
    It’s a FACT that Trump’s lawyers were laughed out of the Supreme Court. EVERY JUSTICE appointed by Trump said Trump had “NO STANDING” on this issue. Even Justice Thomas, arguably the most conservative member of the court, was very critical of Trump’s legal efforts.
    I’m NOT saying this election was perfectly conducted. I AM SAYING that no PROOF of widespread corruption that might have altered the outcome of ANY STATE has been presented to any court.
    Put me in Republican senator Lindsay Graham’s corner. Those of you who heard his statement on this issue will know exactly what I mean.

    • wyoming85 says:

      Since I don’t believe most things I read or hear.

      I will wait for the thorough investigation into each accusation signed by a US citizen.

      Has that happened yet?

      Or have they been arrested for perjury? Haven’t heard of any arrests

      I watched most of the State hearings, and found it at least worth investigating.

      I just think we can’t have it both ways!

      Either they were right and there was election fraud, or they lied under oath!

      Investigate it and find the truth! That’s all I ask!

      Is that to much?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        It’s too much to ask for investigations of investigation of investigations bc they don’t go your way

        There have been multiple audits, recounts, challenges to the law in court

        They’ve all lost at an embarrassing rate

        There is little merit to the challenges. Trump isn’t asking people to find the truth, he’s asking courts to exhaust people until things fall his way.

  62. The Flying Pig says:


    You can actually look up the articles of impeachment online. It’s not my opinion. It’s what the charge is.

    And you can look up the crime yourself to to understand what has to be proven

    It’s not ambiguous.

    I’m not going to argue with a dozen people bc I say “he’s charged with incitement of insurrection” when it actually says that on the paper you can look up for yourself

    It doesn’t matter how anyone feels about it. It’s what the charge is.

    • ocalarob says:

      Charges are not convictions,
      however your opinion seems to lead to the conclusion he’s guilty without any conclusive evidence of the charge.
      just rhetoric

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Of course they aren’t

        But when I tell you guys he was charged with _______

        You decide you want to question that …..

        Look it up yourself

        Stop asking me to tell you facts so you can argue how crazy you think that is

        It’s fucking lunacy. You guys are just crazy. I’m literally just telling you what the charge is, after telling you three other times, but still being asked what it is, and you want to argue with me about that. Who do you think is frothing again?

      • ocalarob says:

        I must have misinterpreted your statements, my bad.
        The Flying Pig says:
        January 14, 2021 at 10:25 am
        People who commit crimes get charged with crimes
        Presidents who commit crimes get impeached

  63. ocalarob says:

    I can’t wait to see how the asylum turns out after the inmates take control on jan 20

  64. wyoming85 says:

    Piggy I wasn’t talking about Trump!

    I was talking about the Americans that signed affidavits to voter fraud.

    Either they were right, or should be arrested for prudery!

    I have heard of no arrests yet?

  65. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – I couldn’t care less whether Trump actually does get impeached or if he’s ever seen again on the political landscape. I wouldn’t vote for him anyway. My problem is this utter concentration of time and effort against him by the Democratic party. It appears to be a sickness on their part. For all the faults they constantly bring up about him, the fact is they’re beyond obsessed with him at a time where they are assuming full power of the Presidency, House and Congress. It should be full steam ahead but instead they keep focusing on Trump. If you don’t see anything weird about that, I don’t know what to say.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That’s just not reasonable

      The capitol was raided last week

      If Trump just lost the election and conceded it – I think everyone would be moving on by now

      But he didn’t. He refused and last week their lives were jeopardized by a group of people who believed what he said

      It’s not a sickness to want to prevent that

      It’s not like Trump conceded, and didn’t stir the pot

      • Mike E. says:

        Piggy – If you believe that impeaching Trump makes him “Go away” or stops him from saying what he’s been saying all along, you’re kidding me and yourself. You know he won’t shut up, and he won’t be President in a few days anyway. This is being done for optics and optics only. The Democrats that want this done don’t give a rats ass about the American’s safety, they just want to disparage Trump and his supporters as they have done since he took office. That’s my take

      • The Flying Pig says:

        They give a rats ass about their own safety
        They were the ones attacked

        Don’t be silly

  66. wyoming85 says:

  67. The Flying Pig says:

    You did misinterpret it
    Congress is the forum for crimes by a president
    Courts are the forum for crimes by everyone else

    It’s not a controversial point
    It’s the way it works

    If you want to nitpick and say it’s a charge not a conviction it doesn’t affect the forum

    Stop being a douche

    You guys are arguing with me about things that aren’t really debatable

  68. wyoming85 says:

    Let me go at this another way.

    Let’s impeach and remove everyone that has done what Trump is accused of!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      AKA if you charge or accuse Trump with anything, I’m going to act like a spolied brat until you don’t

      • wyoming85 says:

        I’m just saying what good for the goose is good for the gander!

        If the world is fair? Yes everyone who commits the same crime should get the same sentence?

        Is that a hard concept? I found it pretty simple

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I’m sure it just a coincidence that everything time some one accuses trump of anything, there is a parade of people that want to talk about something else some one else did

  69. wyoming85 says:

    If acting like a spoiled brat too get your way is a thing.

    I can’t for the life of me think of where I would have saw that before???????

  70. bailbondmike says:

    You’re judging Smith on what he did against inferior talent, he won’t have that luxury in the NFL, If you’re drafting a wr at #3 overall, his last name has to be Johnson.
    as in Andre or Calvin.
    Andre and Calvin both played in the ACC. Talk about inferior talent.

    Andre never had more than 6 catches in a game his last season and barely had over 1000 yards receiving. Year before he only had 682 receiving. Only caught 4 balls for 54 yards in the National Championship game and basically had zero impact on the game in which they lost. Yeah, he has pick #3 written all over him.

    • ocalarob says:

      Andre Johnson was unstoppable in the NFL, there’s no comparison, he’s a unicorn, Smith is a very athletic JAG who is light in the ass.

      There’s a lot more that goes into stats then just one guy.

      but keep trying.

  71. wyoming85 says:

    Pointing out Hypocrisy in an argument isn’t childish.

    I live Irony more than anything!

    So when someone accuses another of something they themselves have done.

    It makes me smile

  72. steveccnv says:

    The party that isn’t in the WH has always been the party to create push back and stir shit up. I heard it for 8 years each during Bush and Obama, but nothing like the last 4.

    The people that don’t approve of the candidate that won do the same thing.

    Just remember paybacks are a bitch.

  73. steveccnv says:

    What does anyone think about the cabinet picks from Biden?

    • stangerx says:

      If you don’t like establishment you won’t like them, but then if they went with progressives think you would like them a whole lot less. My guess is that they are going to be stable and boring….. which I like, especially now.

      • steveccnv says:

        Yeah, but they’re corrupt as Biden.

      • stangerx says:

        If they are corrupt now that can be brought up during the confirmation hearings. Well established I am not good at predicting the future.

      • steveccnv says:

        If they’re corrupt? Those cabinet members are so swampy their shoes squeek when they walk.

      • steveccnv says:

        There’s so much corruption from both sides, that they have plenty of stampers, that will Ok the new corrupt staffers.

      • steveccnv says:

        Swampers not stampers.

      • stangerx says:

        Was on a Google conference call abruptly scheduled yesterday by someone I both respect and trust and worked with for years. Reason was he was leaving his position to join Biden’s cabinet (one of those minor ones that never hit the news). Can guarantee you he is not corrupt. So you have that.

    • steveccnv says:

      Minor ones don’t tend to be corrupt, unless they have aspirations to move up the ladder.

      You’re starting to show something to gain.

  74. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

  75. stangerx says:

    I truthfully don’t believe Trump wanted to have the Capitol stormed. Think what he wanted his folks to angrily surround the Capitol and was picturing the helicopter shots. And yeah he might have wanted some violent clashes with counter protestors.

    So if it is impeachable it would be in the way you are guilty for telling a buddy to beat up a dude that grabbed your girlfriend’s rear who then pulls a knife you didn’t know he has and uses it.

    • steveccnv says:

      Even the politicians on the left believe it to be this way, they just use political posturing to get what they want.

      No one that heard his speech thinks otherwise.

  76. steveccnv says:

    My dad says, if you put up with corruption you must have something to gain. So either you’re corrupt yourself, benefit from it directly or indirectly, are compromised or threatened.

    All those politicians on the right that have abandoned Trump fit into one of those categories.

  77. bailbondmike says:

    I was talking about the Americans that signed affidavits to voter fraud.
    Wyoming, there are those on the left and some on the right even who don’t want it looked into. If you think the riot on the capital was bad, just think if they looked into all these. Don’t know how many there are now but just a week after the election there were over 500 sworn affidavits alleging 11,000 incidents of various types of voter fraud. To include:
    – 60% of a batch of voter ballots had the same signature on them
    – 35 ballots counted despite not being cast by registered voters
    – 50 ballots were counted multiple times in a tabulation machine
    – one woman’s dead son somehow voted
    – Democrats handed out documents on how to distract Republican vote challengers

    This is a huge one (On Jan, 7):

    “It has now been confirmed that a signed, sworn affidavit was delivered to the U.S. Congress yesterday by individuals acting with an Italian defense company employee in which the employee confesses to manipulating votes in the U.S. election on Nov. 3.

    The revelation was made by Maria Zack, Chairwoman of NationsInAction.org, a government accountability advocacy group in an interview with Debbie Georgatos from AmericaCanWeTalk.com posted yesterday.

    “D’Elia has been deposed by the presiding judge in Naples and in sworn testimony states on 4 November 2020, under instruction and direction of US persons working from the US Embassy in Rome, undertook the operation to switch data from the US election of 3 November 2020 from significant margin of victory for Donald Trump to Joe Biden in a number of states where Joe Biden was losing the vote totals,” the affidavit signed by employee Arturo D’elio reads.

    “Defendant stated he was working in the Pescara facility of Leonardo SpA and utilized military grade cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switched votes via military satellite of Fucino Tower to Frankfurt Germany,” it continues.

    “The defendant swears that the data in some cases may have been switched to represent more than total voters registered. The defendant has stated he is willing to testify to all individuals and entities involved in the switching of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden when he shall be in total protection for himself and his family. Defendant states he has secured in an undisclosed location the backup of the original data and data switched upon instruction to provide evidence at court in this matter.”

    The fact that the affidavit was delivered yesterday afternoon before Congress voted on accepting Electoral College votes for an election accused of being fraudulent makes yesterday’s votes by members of Congress all the more remarkable.”

    There was a video on Youtube but they removed it, of course.

    I think it is just pathetic, just because your guy won, that you don’t think that each and every one of these affidavits should not be thoroughly looked into. I you don’t then you don’t care about this country or it’s future.

    • steveccnv says:

      This should be shocking, but just another day in the life of American corruption.

      See my post directly above, see what I mean?

    • steveccnv says:

      If Trump uses the 2018 executive order on foreign interference in our elections, he could remain president.

    • steveccnv says:

      Whenever evidence like this comes out its always suppressed by the media or its Russian disinformation.

      I thought you guys just wanted the truth about the election?

      I knew you never really did.

      What if this is true, do we overturn the election?

  78. ElephantRider says:

    If they want this vaccine rolled out quickly and efficiently…..put the person in charge at chick-fil-a to do it. We’d all have them in a month.

  79. steveccnv says:

    New blog up, if you missed it. We’re using this old one for politics.

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