2021 Position Outlook – LB

The Miami Dolphins defense made a resurgence in 2020. Some of its success was due to better play at LB, and no one player benefited from the improvements we made on defense as our own drafted LB #55 Jerome Baker. Baker had his finest season and has become one of the leaders on this defense. His signature season featured 112 tackles, 7 sacks, 7 TFL, 11 QB hits, 3 passes defensed and 2 forced fumbles. Bringing in FA’s Kyle Van Noy, Elandon Roberts, and also the big guys like Emmanuel Ogbah, Zach Sieler and Shaq Lawson and the emergence of Andrew Van Ginkel allowed Jerome Baker to be what we had hoped he could be, a playmaking LB who made plays in every facet of the defense. One could easily say if we had one more guy like #55, our defense could be elite, and it’s hard to argue. Although our secondary is the first unit you think of when you think of dominance, I feel like our front 7 aren’t far away. By the end of the season, the rotation of Wilkins, Davis, Seiler, Ogbah, and the LB’s Van Noy, Baker, Lawson, Van Ginkel, Roberts were a very solid group. Before the season finale in which we got stampeded by the Bills offense, this was a legitimate defense. Both Elandon Roberts and Kamu Grugier-Hill were one year contracts, so we have to add a LB or two either in the draft or free agency.

For the 2021 NFL Draft, there are a few LB’s that could help our team right away. The first one hails from Linebacker University (Penn St) and is the top LB prospect in this draft, Micah Parson. Big, 6’3 245 and rangy, and with excellent speed and can run sideline to sideline and cover running backs and tight ends. He really is a talented LB, one that could eventually transform our defense along with Jerome Baker. While Elandon Roberts was a run game thumper, Parsons could be that and do everything Baker can. If you liked Super Bowl linebackers Lavonte David (6’1 233) and Devin White(6’0 237), we could have that with size with Parsons (6’3 245) and Baker (6’2 230).

Another very good prospect is Tulsa LB Zaven Collins. Where Parsons could play any of the LB spots in our defense, Collins is more than likely going to play outside. Collins is big, bigger even than Parsons at 6’4 260. Collins is better in pass coverage than rushing the passer as he has just average burst. He has good speed, but not elite speed. He does have excellent length and can cover tight ends. He would need to improve his pass rush, as many prospects do. He’s a possible target and should be available at our 2nd pick if we stay at #3 and #18.

If we want to draft a LB much like the aforementioned Super Bowl Bucs LB’s Devin White and Lavonte David, that would be Missouri LB Nick Bolton. Bolton is a little smallish, especially when compared to either Parsons or Collins, but he can play. Bolton is 6’0 232, and is very fast and explosive like the two Bucs linebackers. He has the speed to also run sideline to sideline is a reliable tackler. Where Bolton struggles however, is in coverage. The instincts that serve him well in his run defense haven’t yet been developed in pass coverage. Still, he has the athleticism to become a 3 down backer.

If we’re looking for an OLB/Pass rusher, look no further than Texas’ Joseph Ossai. Ossai is a bona fide pass rushing LB. What’s more is that he is a very high effort guy, plays full out all the time. He has the size (6’4 253) and speed to be a perfect fit as a 3-4 OLB. Ossai was able to increase his statistical totals playing in only 9 games in 2020 as compared to 13 games in 2019. He compiled 55 tackles, 15.5 tackles behind the LOS which is 2 more than the previous season in 4 less games. He also topped his 2019 in sacks with 5.5 over his 5 in 2019, again, in 4 less games, also adding 3 FF’s.

There are many prospects that will be interesting but those are the guys that I feel can make an immediate impact. Another undersized player who can play multiple positions including LB and safety is Jeremiah Owusu. He’s 6’1 215 and has legit speed and explosiveness. Another interesting prospect later on is former Florida Gator and UAB transfer Jordan Smith. Smith got caught up in the alleged credit card scandal in Florida and transferred to UAB. He is raw, but shows potential as a pass rusher with great length 6’7 255. He’s also a good for fit for a 3-4 OLB pass rushing LB. He is definitely a project though, and would be probably be 3rd-4th RD pick. Let me know who you guys like, I know y’all have your favorites.

GO DOLPHINS 2021!!!

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1,017 Responses to 2021 Position Outlook – LB

  1. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,
    We all get a little carried away with ourselves with issues we care about. It’s one of the great things about us! I also think we all forget how our comments come across in this sort of forum. This is still a really bad way to have a true conversation about something. I know I get accused of all sorts of emotions I am pretty sure I’m not having. Lol
    ***
    I voted for Trump once. I simply couldn’t do it again. He showed his true colors. If Biden does the same, I’ll try to vote his ass out of there too. I truly don’t give a shit which party you belong to. I think folks are getting a little ahead of themselves with saying he won’t even make it thru the next 4 years…but I get it. Frankly, I would support the idea of an age limit for these fuckers. Lots of them appear to have issues. Hell, I’m only 55, and I still can’t remember shit all the time. 75. 80. 85. I don’t know.

  2. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Biden the racist, just said, blacks aren’t smart enough to get online

  3. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Randy, when I see a video that shows one thing, then these partisan hacks put something in print that’s the opposite I call it fake news.

    That kind of shit happens all the time, biden on the Ukraine story, and keeping poll watchers out when counting votes are a couple of them that come to mind.

    If they wouldn’t let the poll watchers from the right oversee the vote counts how can anyone say it was a fair election?

  4. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    February 17, 2021 at 1:38 pm
    good riddance, SMH< that man was a hateful and deceitful fearmonger

    hopefully satan has room for the drug trafficker limbaugh
    ——————
    Brah, you're better than that. YOU sound like the hateful and deceitful fearmonger when you talk like that. I couldn't stand Ruth Bader-Ginsburg, yet I gave her a respectful and public RIP on Twitter.

    I say this to you with respect, not to chide you. Don't lose the good in you, man.

  5. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    WY

    I don’t believe for a second that anyone here doesn’t crave 🐖💨 when I’m not around

  6. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    steve,
    I am not an avid fan of how politicians have been doing their jobs in general. but all I can do is use my vote….just like everyone else. These issues are bigger than Trump or any one politician. I think we’ll all get back there in time. Trump is still a political force in our Country, so I get why he’s still in the news and discussed. But, we’ve got serious issues to contend with. I hope these guys/gals can come together and do something worthwhile. I think we all know it when we see it. We haven’t seen enough of it in a long while. The art of compromise really only works when everyone agrees to it.

  7. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This time I decided to go back to drafting a Wr at 3

    3: R1 P3 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
    18: R1 P18 EDGE Joseph Ossai – Texas
    36: R2 P4 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
    50: R2 P18 WR Kadarius Toney – Florida
    81: R3 P17 C Landon Dickerson – Alabama
    123: R4 P18 S Talana Hufagana – USC
    202: R6 P16 DL Tedarrell Slaton – Florida
    256: R7 P30 CB Bryce Thompson – Tennessee

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I am obsessed with getting the additional 1st for 22

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I’m usually not doing mocks with trade downs

        But I’m prefer a trade down. Now so sure about a future 1 though, I would be happy with a modest trade down for a 2nd round pick and a little extra

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      That has the look of a realistic draft.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I think some people are probably going to have issues with 2 WRs early, but I really think we might make a move like that

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I think it depends on if we add a WR in FA that will be viewed as a significant part of the rotation. We have some good WRs but we do have durability issues at the position. So upgrading the position wouldn’t be a bad thing. You have to score in this league to get to the playoffs.

        We really don’t know if Bowden will build on some of the good things he did at the end of the season. We haven’t seen enough of Perry as a WR but he flashed a few times. We all know Grant is an explosive player but we all know he has questionable hands too.

        As for Parker and Williams, when healthy they’re starter material. We’ll see where Wilson and Hurns stand on the team.

        I can definitely see us adding significant talent at WR.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Can’t lie: I really like Ossai. But I think I like Gregory Rousseau and Azeez Ojulari better. If we get any one of those 3, we’ll have done well.

  8. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    IN LATE 2008 THE COMPANY I work for relocated to Tampa! My 19 year forced exile from Florida was, at last, over!! On my first day at work in the new location I wore one of my antique Dolphin shirts to the office. A young kid who was a part time employee noticed my shirt and said “Are you a big Dolphin fan?” For the next 2-3 minutes I bored him with a description of just HOW BIG a DOLFAN I REALLY WAS. The kid was stunned. When the season started in September of 2009 I asked him “Would you like to go to next week’s game?” He said “OH YES!” We had a great time at that game and at several other games from about 2010-2013. Eventually, this kid graduated from USF and was accepted at USF’s school of pharmacy. He told me “I’m gonna be a LEGAL drug dealer!” After graduating (2nd in his class, I was told) young Ryan was hired by Publix and named assistant chief pharmacist at their busiest and most profitable pharmacy in greater Tampa Bay. Best of all, it’s located just 2 miles from where my wife and I live!! He has less spare time now. He got married 3 years ago to a girl who also works at my office (she’s our office manager). They just had their first kid a few months ago. But Ryan loves the Dolphins more than ever. And he often mentions some of the games he and I have gone to.

    About 5 weeks ago Me and Mrs. OD came down with the covid virus. We both had a tough time. But we got over it. For weeks, Mrs. OD tried to get us the covid vaccine. She spent many long hours on the internet, registering us for the local and state vaccine registries. But, as of today, NONE of them have responded, even though we’ve re-applied to several of them. I believed we’d be lucky to get the vaccine by July, if then!

    Last Thursday night Ryan contacted me and said “You and Penny (Mrs. OD) need to be at my pharmacy tomorrow night at 6:00 PM. We’re going to give both of you the first of two doses of Moderna’s vaccine. The second dose will be 3 weeks later.” I WAS FLABBERGASTED!!
    Then he added, “I really had a terrific time at all those Dolphins games you took me to. Now, it’s payback time!”

  9. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I just love the way he runs

    Look at the way he moves his feet

  10. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Piggy,

    That draft would be amazing. I think all 5 of the first picks would be starters by no later than the 2022 season (Dickerson, Toney). and maybe all five by the end of the year. Bills…meet your new AFCE overlords

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If we need ended up with Chase, Toney and Williams I wouldn’t know which jersey to buy

      Which is probably a good thing

  11. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  12. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    He makes a lot of big plays

    Flores is salivating

  13. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: I know you’ve met Ryan on more than one occasion. He sends his regards to both you and your wife.

  14. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This might be fun

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Toney and Pitts were the primary catchers for Trask and I think we saw in the bowl game just how much he needed them. Toney really intrigues me as a possibly better Landry.

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim and Pig,

    I hear both of you. I suppose if the price is right like Bob Barker, we might be able to fit Von Miller into our plans. If not, I’m about the youth movement.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah I agree. I think Miller will end up elsewhere anyway. I think Grier approaches building a team based on the best available players and when they’re available. Teams don’t build their teams over 4-5 years anymore. It’s 2-3 years now. So the best players you can add makes you the best team sooner than later. Just don’t screw your cap with a boatload of top FAs while not building “a team.” I think Grier and Flores are on the same page with that. This is year 3 of their plan. The goal is a championship. What do they have to do to get there? That’s what they’re working on.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        And just think… there are probably even more giants to fall from the trees. That’s why so many are monitoring our cap space… perhaps we make a move on one of these giants. We shall see…

  16. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    MF-13; I REMEMBER when the Dolphins acquired the supposedly “Over the Hill” Nick Buoniconti from the BOSTON Patriots. He was about 5’10” and about 215 pounds and an unimpressive 40 time. This “Over the Hill” guy led the Dolphins to a Perfect Season and three straight Super Bowls. He was the missing element in the Dolphins defense. Without him, there would have been no Perfect Season!
    ————————-
    SO-O-O we should at least kick the tires on Von Miller. If Miami’s FO and HC think he will significantly upgrade our defense, perhaps a deal could be worked out. That said, I agree with you that the youth movement is the way to go. But damn few teams have won Super Bowls without a proven star player on defense to guide the ship. — We shall see.

  17. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    —————-
    Many thought Big Ben was going to retire… I never believed that to be the case. Seems it’s more a matter of GM Kevin Colbert and Big Ben’s $40M+ cap hit. It’s not over, but the Stealers* need to create cap space… and they need O-Line help, a new RB, a new WR with JuJu hitting FA, DF7 help, etc, etc.

    AND, they’ve got to look at re-signing the likes of Devin Bush, Minkah Fitzpatrick, and several others.

    So I don’t think it’s about Big Ben ‘retiring’, it’s a matter of restructuring him or he could be on the outside looking in. At THAT point, I could see Big Ben retiring… if he wants he legacy to be as a QB for one team. Otherwise, he just might hit FA, making this QB carousel even weirder than it already is.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I don’t think we’ve ever seen — in the history of the NFL — such movement or potential movement of QBs in a single offseason. CRAZY!

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        We’ve got…

        Phins: Tua (potential trade for Deshaun Watson)
        stej: Darnold (potential trade for Deshaun Watson, or even traded separately)
        Patsies*: Cam Newton is likely gone, where does he end up?
        Texans: What are they going to do?
        Jags: incoming- Trevor Lawrence. Are they trading Gardner Minshew?
        Eagles: trading Carson Wentz?
        Panthers: whispers that Teddy may be cut?
        Broncos: are they finished with the Drew Lock experiment?
        Cowboys: are they going to complete a deal with Dak, or let him walk?
        Giants: Daniel Jones is weak, and not the answer. Who do they go with next?
        49ers: Rumors galore that they’re done with Jimmy G, and want to upgrade?
        Raiders: Derek Carr on the trade market?
        Bears: Mitch Trubisky is likely on the move?

        And is it clear that Drew Brees is actually retiring?
        What are the Colts going to do at QB after the retirement of Philip Rivers?

        Again, we’ve never seen anything quite like this in NFL history.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        There is a big change going on heading into 2021.

  18. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If all your wives hate me for making this suggestion, I’m doing my job

    Try the head in the jar prank, and let me know your partner’s reaction

  19. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – not sure why you included the Dolphins as part of a potential trade for Watson. Other than fan or talking head conjecture there is zero evidence otherwise that we have any interest

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think if we move on from Tua too early we may regret doing that in a few years. Build around him. He will also work hard to develop his game. That’s who he is.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I think it’s ridiculous personally. Stick to the plan. Nothing Tua did last season makes me think he can’t be a good to great QB in this league. Just because the Cards dumped Rosen doesn’t mean that’s going to become a trend. Not only that, yes, every team wants a franchise QB but when you trade for one, it takes its toll on the franchise because of what you have to give up to get that QB. We have a good young QB, build a great team around him rather than trying to acquire one great player.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Until I hear it 100% batted down by management that we aren’t going after Deshaun (and we haven’t), I consider it to be an option. Not by choice, mind you… rather, I see it as a possibility.

      As for me… I think I’ve resigned myself to rolling with Tua: I believe in him.
      I have spoken… 😉

  20. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    February 17, 2021 at 4:22 pm
    Gonna take a lot more than #18 and a good player. Tua plus both our firsts and one of the 2nds would be the admission price to the bidding party.
    _________________________________________________________—

    right now the price is high, after FA and up to the draft most teams are set, they cant take on a big contract and remember Watson has to approve the deal, all these issues makes his trade value drop. if he isn’t moved by draft day i believe he will be a bargain

  21. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    A balanced assessment of the TX power grid. No crazily inaccurate numbers of which power source is at fault.

  22. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Krishna – I didn’t come on yesterday to talk about what was going on in Texas. You were talking about it. I came on to bring up the Democratic hero Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Not everything is a look over there. That shit is older than you are. That guy was revered all over the country as a great man when in reality he was a POS. Now he’s under FBI investigation and I’m happier than a pig in shit to see the veil lifted.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      They were going to run Cuomo for president, after they praised him for his handling of covid, even though he was killing all of those nursing home covid people.

      I guess they came to their senses and figured the truth would come out and he’d lose, then go to prison.

  23. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Randy says:
    February 17, 2021 at 3:45 pm
    Anybody who actually wants to know the truth about just how corrupt Trump and his family was during his Presidency just has to do some research. If you believe there’s no evidence of his corruption, you’re simply not interested in knowing….and that’s your prerogative, I guess. Rail on Biden for his corruption all you like but if you’re gonna try to claim Trump wasn’t corrupt, you’re sorely mistaken.
    ___________________________________________________

    read this asshats statements,
    I’m sure you can find a lot of unsubstantiated left dirt on Trump, that’s what the left does fling dirt without any evidence.
    you should be the one to show us all the corruption you accuse Trump of, after all the you’re the one who’s running his mouth without a shred of confirmation as to what you are saying.

    typical left wing moron.

    Bidens corruption is well documented by his own mouth.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I’m glad the right never throws out any unsubstantiated BS. It’s proven that whenever they do it was actually an antifa false flag operation.:)

  24. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I didn’t know TX was number one in wind power,production. One the linked articles pointed out that the windmills did freeze up because they don’t winterize them which is what a risk analysis would tell you. Someone was talking business decisions yesterday and that’s what this is. Why winterize in a place that almost never freezes? Natural gas doesn’t flow when it’s very cold. That’s why I asked if anyone ever tried to grill in the cold. Can’t do it with NG.

    In fine cherry picking of data, it was pointed out that El Paso was on a different power grid and didn’t have the same problems, which is true. It is also true that El Paso temps were not as cold and the grid they’re on stretches from Mexico to Canada and the Montana power plant is currently running on fuel oil.

  25. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Anyone remember some U75 announcer using the word matriculate, as in matriculate the ball down the field?

    Well, I just read an article about FA WRs we should sign and the idiots are at it again, so I thought I’d look it up again.

    be enrolled at a college or university.
    “he matriculated at the University of Vermont”
    2.
    SCOTTISH•HERALDRY
    record (arms) in an official register.
    “the arms have been matriculated by the Lord Lyon King of Arms in Edinburgh”
    nounINDIAN
    /məˈtrikyəˌlət/
    a person who has matriculated.

    This SbNation article was written by sern342. If I wrote it I wouldn’t put my real name on it either.

  26. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Steve – The windmills did freeze and they account for about 30% of TX . But they were not the only or even the primary cause. It was a, pardon the pun, a perfect storm of events.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Yeah I know, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left for blaming Trump for everything that happened in the US the last 4 years, by blaming biden for this incident.

      I mean Trump was friends with the Clintons and many on the left before he ran, then after he become enemy #1. They filled the media with lie after lie, yet he’s proclaimed as the biggest liar in the world. Funny how politics work.

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Anyone watch the President’s Town Hall Meeting the other night? Anderson Cooper was glowing all night, so friendly to new President Biden you’d think they were bestest friends. He even coaxed him a few times getting him back on track and prompted him with what to say. Yep, same treatment former President Trump received from the media. This disgusts me.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      This also ties into Cuomo, who had friggin press conferences every day as if HE was COVID-19 central! The media sucked him up like he was the second coming of Jesus Christ. Now, we see him for the garbage he really is

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Not only is it disgusting its dangerous. We saw how cozy they were with Obama, to the point Obama said, he had no scandals while he was in the WH.

      Yeah, because the media was in bed with him. Afterwards we saw spygate, Bengazi, IRS, and about 100 other things he did.

      But here we are today and the same idiots are praising Mr china.

  28. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Can someone let the operator know the ride is broken?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Mike, please fix the ride biden broke it last night after taking a little girl out for a spin 🤔

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        So is this BDS? lol

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Yes, it’s Biden’s Dolls

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        You’ve put a lot of thought into this. 🤔
        Did Biden say he’d bone his own daughter or something disgusting like that?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        He didn’t have to he showed us time and again on video.

        I guess your circles didn’t report on the Christmas parties either, when he was VP and walked around naked and tried groping the women. The word before the parties was, keep your wives and girlfriends close

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        lol @ my circles

        Did ‘your circles’ report on Trump saying this?
        “She has the best body, I’ve said If Ivanka weren’t my daughter I’d be dating her”

        Or do you just not care how disgusting that is because it’s Trump?

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      You will stay at the top of the Ferris l and like it mister!

  29. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Phel, you grill with gas? WTF?

  30. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Got about 5″ of snow already today and probably going to push over 10″ by tonight. F this snow. My family can vouch for me, I said this was going to be a bad winter with a lot of snow. It had been way too calm and for a couple of years.

  31. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Pp….wind production accounts for 30-33% as source of power doesn’t mean 30-33% of failure.

    Gov Abbott not that you should believe a politician claimed renewables, principally wind, was compromised just like all of the resources, but only accounted for 10-13% of failed power overall.

    Also, after 2011 event in TX, a study was done, recommendations were made, and ignored because profit over upgrade took first seat.

    A generational perfect storm that’s happened twice in less than decade.

    Cherry picking? That’s a joke right? Like how you manipulate wind data and blame?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      What’s with this fact thing? You guys haven’t used any the last 5 years, now all of a sudden you want to be a true fact checker🤑

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Dude – you need to come out of that drug induced haze. I specifically said wind failure was not the root cause just part of it. And the 2011 storm resulted in a 6 hour power outage. Yes….cherry picked.

  32. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Q What’s Joe Biden’s favorite arcade game?
    A Space Invaders

  33. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Q Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumur, , and Nancy Pelosi are all on a sinking ship. Who gets saved?

    A America.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I kind of think the Eagles like Jalen Hurts

      It’s hard for me to accept the idea that the Lions have secured their future with Goff

      But on the other hand the Eagles are a potential trade partner after drafting Hurts

      Not saying Hurts is better than Goff
      But Goff has a few more years under his belt than Hurts – we know his Goff is and the Rams moved away from him for a reason.

      Given what the lions got for Stafford, is it crazy for the lions to think about drafting a QB to eventually replace Goff who may be just holding down the ship?

      I kind of think the Lions are more likely than the Eagles to trade up

      Carolina seems like the most likely option

      But that said, one huge problem looms for the Dolphins if we try to trade down

      And that’s that this off-season there’s more QB movement than ever before

      There are a ton of vets out there

      If Philadelphia does move Wentz – where does he go.

      Add Watson, Rothlisberget, Darnold, Wentz and Garrapolo to moving pieces this off-season

      Is a team in the top 10 going to want to trade up with us to take an unproven QB who isn’t Trevor Lawrence?

      The more I think about the QB situation the more I think we may end up keeping the #3

      Get used to hearing Miami Dolphin, Ja’marr Chase
      He’s kind of shaping up to be the smart pick

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        My first thought was no way the Eagles would trade up. I also agree that the Lions can’t be thinking Goff is the answer, I think they had to take him to consummate the trade and eat his cap space.

  34. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Ahh, glad to read that, Phel. I’ve always felt we are kindred spirits, but grilling with gas (as the norm) goes against everything I believe in, lol.

  35. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  36. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    You did say that pp, but i interpreted your cooment or read that 33% of the failure was due to wind. It is not according to the gov and he back tracked on his bs that the reason for failures was due to green new deal.

    I apologize for misinterpreting where you going then.

    If you don’t think TX gov’t and oil and gas industry in TX are mostly to blame, you are ill-informed. Even after studies/risk assessment nothing was done.

    TX doesn’t believe in climate change so i get it.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      That was a response to pp 11:15 post.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Definitely a Govt issue. Don’t know about the other. Govt. has the choice of increasing utility bills to pay for winterizing equipment for 10 year storms or gambling that they can deal with the ten year storm without.

  37. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Is it a foregone conclusion the Jest are moving on from Darnold? If they aren’t then they are another potential hurdle for us trading down, as they may also be looking to trade down.

  38. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Listening to Ya’ll argue about how energy is generated is funnier than hell!

  39. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  40. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I’m a very happy amateur griller! I love going out, pressing the start button and at least half the time, the grill actually going on. Getting the natural gas hookup was the shit! No propane tanks to deal with.I grill all year round, even in the winter, except most of this winter, my backyard has been covered with snow.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Do you kill puppies too? lol, j/bb.

      Gas grills are fine for the standard cook that is looking to get food on the table, and you can make some good food on a gas grill, but the best food will always be better on charcoal/lump/pellets. Cooking with charcoal or lump is an art.

      I grill year around with my webber, but we don’t have extreme winter weather in Sac. If we dealt with snow, I’d probably have a propane grill for those cold winter months.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      My charcoal smoker/grill starts every time. 700 degrees in 15 minutes.

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kong – I was going to get the wind turbine powered grill but they were all out!

  42. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    A talking head’s response when asked if the crisis in Texas could have been prevented — “Well they do keep the power on in Alaska all winter.”

  43. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    LMAO. I am watching this terrible made for TV movie version of Jason and the Argonauts, and just heard this line. (If you don’t know this is the story, it’s Greek mythology.)

    “My Lady Madea, the Lord Jason…in cahoots.”

    In cahoots? Ancient Greece? LMAO, some screenwriter got paid to write that line, an actor got paid to say it, and a director directed it. And no one said “hey, maybe we should change this.”
    Cahoots…

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If that’s the one with the stop motion animation I love it

      Forget the script, I am a pig of simple tastes, I will watch this over and over again

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        No, that is Ray Harryhausen’s Jason and the Argonauts, a fantastic movie.

        It has my favorite Harryhausen stop motion monster of al time- Talos, and it has the extra bonus of being a completely ‘cahoots’ free movie, lol.

  44. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Nothing right now says man of the people more than Ted Cruz in Mexico

  45. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    In regards to Carson Wentz I have always liked him but he did not look good last year. I thought it was just a lack of talent on Eagles but then Hurts did better with the same talent. Not sure what to expect of him with Indy. Glad we didn’t pursue

  46. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    OK I want to be a dick too!

    If this is global warming, you’ve got my attention! 🙂

  47. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Is that Wentz trade enough to take colts out of QB market

  48. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Kong, are you telling me you never heard of the Isle of Cahoots just North of Athens?

    😜

  49. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Piggy I still the Lions will be in the market for a QB. I doubt they look at Goff as the answer

  50. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      That’s the guy. Most fans of Harryhausen list the Cyclops as their favorite monster, but for my money it was always Talos.

  51. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    They demolished Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. I spent many a night there for free. Hit it big (relatively) one day and got on “the comp” list for rooms. Could never figure why they never took me off cause didn’t bet enough after to belong on it. But was real cool for a 20-something.

    Vid is short and real cool. If doesn’t come up can click.
    https://forbes.brightcovecdn.com/media/v1/pmp4/static/clear/2097119709001/e4a9547a-59eb-4f1c-84b9-148fa7928acf/c159ba30-f871-4565-bcb0-173f251ef507/main.mp4?fastly_token=NjIwZWE1MTBfNDkwYWIxMzQ3YTFkZDEzYjczODEyNjdjODZmOTU2M2M1OGNmY2M4YjE4YWU4MDdhNzQ1NGNlMjZhYmRiYjY3NV8vL2ZvcmJlcy5icmlnaHRjb3ZlY2RuLmNvbS9tZWRpYS92MS9wbXA0L3N0YXRpYy9jbGVhci8yMDk3MTE5NzA5MDAxL2U0YTk1NDdhLTU5ZWItNGYxYy04NGI5LTE0OGZhNzkyOGFjZi9jMTU5YmEzMC1mODcxLTQ1NjUtYmNiMC0xNzNmMjUxZWY1MDcvbWFpbi5tcDQ%3D

  52. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Did Biden demolish Trump Tower or was it Pelosi? lol

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      (it was actually Trump, who else can bankrumpt a casino?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      lol – He hadn’t owned it in a while, but will al ways be Trump Plaza to me. Might not like his politics, but will always appreciate the hospitality. Was always cool to tell girls I was dating “let me call Trump Plaza and get us a room.”

  53. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Just shoveled the driveway again. I’m going to turn into a stop motion monster if this keeps up

  54. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Perseverance set to land on Mars in about 15 minutes. You can watch live on youtube on the link that apears after the explosion video Stangerx posted above.

  55. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Six Dolphins going into a contract year below…. who gets an extension?
    Now is the time for it.
    All for locking up at least Gesicki.

    DE Emmanuel Ogbah,
    LB Jerome Baker,
    TE Mike Gesicki,
    TE Durham Smythe,
    WR Albert Wilson and
    C Cameron Tom.

  56. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – To be fair AC went into the toilet. It’s just not the place to be anymore. There are a couple of hotels hanging in there, but it’s not the same.

  57. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Eight minutes until the spacecraft enters the atmosphere

  58. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    When you realize you made a mistake

  59. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Three minutes until entry! The most dangerous phase has begun. About to lose communications until it lands.

  60. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Parachute has opened!!

  61. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Mike E — this is pretty much what happened to AC, says a guy who now goes to the Seminole Hard Rock. Was the only place to gamble other than Vegas for a while though.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      You mean Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        That was the start. Foxwoods is a lot closer to NYC than AC. Then there were Indian casinos all over the place. Was a federal legal thing.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I haven’t been to AC in a long time

      But there was a time in the early 2000 when the Borgata and I think it was called Revel or something like that – were pretty amazing

      I was at the borgata once on Halloween and I’ve never seen so many women dressed in so many sexy costumes

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Never been, but my impression is that Borgata became like a destination resort away from the boardwalk/strip. Left the old line of them in the dust. However it is spread out now….. lot less gambling than the 80’s and 90’s in AC.

  62. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It is successfully steering itself and the heat shield has separated

  63. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    SUCCESS!!!!! USA USA USA

    FUCKING AMAZING!

  64. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Boy watching the relief and joy of the Nasa nerds is touching. Nine months 300 Million miles and it has survived the trip and successfully landed. Incredible nerdmanship!

  65. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The nasa ground mission manager is pretty hot.

  66. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    WOW they sent a “Mars copter” with Perseverance. designed to fly in the very thin mars atmosphere (1% of earth’s atmosphere) They are going to be flying a drone over mars’ surface.

  67. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    China has a rover scheduled to land sometime in the next month. I hope it crashes and leaves a crater.

  68. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    WTF is Young Blood and why is he allowed to sing in public?!?! God awful!

  69. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    4 years ago we had the Russian probe and you guys were up in arms at Trump being a traitor, but today the real traitor with China, biden doesn’t concern you.

    Fake moral outrage or partisan hacks, call it what you will, but you’re not fooling anyone

  70. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Ken says:
    Nothing right now says man of the people more than Ted Cruz in Mexico.
    —————
    But Cruz did speak up for the people of Texas when the Mayor of Austin went on vacation during Covid times. Guess you ain’t one of the “Hypocrites” till done it yourself.

    ——————————————-
    Hypocrites. Complete and utter hypocrites.

    And don’t forget @MayorAdler who took a private jet with eight people to Cabo and WHILE IN CABO recorded a video telling Austinites to “stay home if you can…this is not the time to relax.”

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      Well if it makes you feel better he is back now that the flights have started again

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Yah think he would be if his Cancun vacation didn’t hit the news? Sorta strange to fly out and fly back the next day. BTW — actually had no huge problem with him doing that till read his bash on the Austin Mayor in a far less severe situation. Live by your word is how I live my life.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I thought Ken was man of the year

  71. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    stangerx says:
    February 18, 2021 at 4:20 pm (Edit)
    Never been, but my impression is that Borgata became like a destination resort away from the boardwalk/strip. Left the old line of them in the dust. However it is spread out now….. lot less gambling than the 80’s and 90’s in AC.

    ****
    That’s what it is
    Basically you don’t leave the hotel

    But they have good restaurants, bars and clubs in the hotel
    I remember having a really good steak once at Bobby flays or wolfgangs I can’t remember which but it was really good

    It’s really nice for a 1-2 day stay

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Sounds like a place I’d stay at. Guessing general AC ain’t as nice as one would like though. The big push when they legalized gambling was the city would be revived, but everything stayed in the casinos. You’ve driven through. Not pretty.

  72. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Meanwhile

  73. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Phelon – I showed that to my wife last night. She’s an actuary, she shook her head in disbelief. It’s amazing the lengths some people are going to incorporate racial injustice. She also said Math is truth.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s a restitution power play by the far left race baiters. It doesn’t mean it will happen, but that’s what it is. It’s not a race card anymore, it’s a race billboard.

  74. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  75. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I was driving all day…so 8 hours of radio. One guy said there is video or pictures that show Cruz had luggage with him when he returned to TX. I have no idea if that’s true or not. I’m guessing he had 2 or 3 small illegals stuck in his luggage to bring back and have them shovel coal into his furnace to keep his mansion warm.

  76. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Randy,

    Talk to me about Chauncey Golston, DE, Iowa…

  77. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MF13,
    He actually might be a good fit for us because he’s probably a rotational sorta guy who’ll give you a tough, run stopping DE who knows how to use position. He’s not much of a penetrator from what we’ve seen at Iowa. He’s a meat and potatoes guy that’ll give you nice depth but not a ton of impact plays.

  78. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MF13,
    No problem. Day 3? I’d certainly take a look at him there. He’s also a great leader and a hustle guy. He’s a team captain sorta guy too. He’d be a great addition to the locker room from all accounts out of Iowa. Tough, smart and plays hard all the time. Could have a nice impact on ST too.

  79. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MF13,
    I’m not so sure how much upside Golston has. His stats usually come from playing hard and being in the right spot….not from elite athleticism. Nothing wrong with that if you get the job done, but I don’t see him becoming a major sack guy.
    ***
    None of these DEs in this draft do much for me. The Rousseau kid has elite measurables, but he is so damn raw. He literally has no moves. It’s kinda frightening how good he might be if he actually learns some technique. The kid plays like a bull in a china shop.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      To your first paragraph, I hear ya… but that’s what day 3 selections are all about. If Gholston gets in the right system, he may surprise. I value positional versatility (and leadership), so I think Gholston may fit the bill as a day 3 catch. We’ll see, but it would be nice to pick him up in say… the 5th (<— I know we don't have one… yet) or 6th round.

      To your second paragraph, I totally agree with ya. I don't see a singular STUD pass-rusher. Rousseau comes with inexperience (and a 1-year layover after opting out), Ossai is nice but no guarantee, but I see something special in Azeez Ojulari… though it may take time.

      Wish we had a Combine this year in order to show-off the talents of these kids: I think Ojulari would KILL the Combine. Then, scouts would go back to his tape and see how special he is. Dude has flex and bendability, coupled with speed to get off the edge. He somewhat (I said SOMEWHAT) reminds me of a young 'sign-puncher' (Bruce Irvin).

      I need to do more work on this unspectacular class of pass-rushers.

  80. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Many pundits/draftniks again believe that this year’s crop of RBs aren’t 1st Round worthy. PFF, for example, doesn’t think a RB is worthy of coming off the board until the mid-2nd Round.

    I find that interesting… and I don’t believe it, either. I’ll say this… once the first one is taken off the board, the run is ON… and we see it nearly every year.

    Say we just selected a player in an average year… and with the next pick, a RUN begins on a new position: we can’t catch up until 32 picks later. Fortunately, we have many picks to move up and down this year.

    I’d rather be the first to take a RB, rather than being late to the party (yet again). I say, do NOT be late to the party this year. If we miss out on one of the top-3 RBs again this year, I’ll be flustered.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      There’s only a handful of ones that are worth day 1 or 2 picks

      And that’s going to presenter a problem for us. We might have to reach

  81. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MF13,
    Actually, Ojulari is like Rousseau but with a little more polished and less athletic talent. Ya know, the NFL is drafting these raw but superior athletes and teaching them how to play more and more. Sometimes it’s easier to shape the clay yourself rather than have to break a guy of bad habits and then teach him good ones. There is some truth to the old “Ya don’t know what you don’t know.”. Lol

  82. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    Would you really reach for a RB in the first? Are you thinking maybe we reach for a guy at #3 or 18? Or, making a trade?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I would reach for Najee Harris at 18

      But I think the sweet spot of us is the #36 pick

      And I would take any of the top 3 picks at 36, Harris, Etienne or Williams

      That might be perceived as a reach for a player like Williams, but I don’t really think it is

      #3 is out of the question though – I don’t see that on a RB

      If we trade down from 3 or 18 and some now end up with a pick in the 20s, that’s a great spot for a RB

  83. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    Gotcha. Yeah, I would be happy with any of those 3 at #36. I have no clue where people expect them to go though.

  84. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’m excited to see who we add to the team to try and take it to the next level. We have a solid core, but we need playmakers and positions to step up more. How do we go about it? Other than the obvious I’m not sure what our top priorities are in how to take this team to the next level. Is it defense, run game, pass game or a mixture of all of it?

  85. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I think if we really like a running back who they feel is worthy of the #18 pick then take him. If you think you can wait until #36 and there’s players there that will also satisfy what you want, wait until #36. Just make sure you get one of the players you want. Don’t get caught up on value. I doubt they do to be honest, because I don’t think anyone was taking Iggy as early as we took him, they just wanted him so they took him, and I have no problem with that.

  86. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, that was a bad ass mock draft you did 2 nights ago! Made me not want to do any more. lol

  87. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    LMAO….”reality” TV show. You know Ted Cruz is a liar and a creep. My wife and several of her friends worked and were associated him, Cornyn, and Abbott before she retired in 2010.

    He was caught “taking care of his daughters and family” because of his privilege and
    wealth. So simple and ok as long as you’re not a one of the highest elected officials in TX. Great example of fatherhood “meets” creepy liar. Lol. His nickname at the state was “chameleon”.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      For Orob, expert on TX politics.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Our neighborhood didn’t lose power, and 3 of us have “guests” staying with us (including me). Never lost gas or electric.

        Have been battling freezing pipes and now low water pressure with boil water restrictions.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        No internet either, but guests showed me how to “tether” so i could get payroll done several clients. Probably 20-25 people were happy they got paid today.

  88. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 18, 2021 at 5:24 pm
    What are you suggesting Biden has done with China recently?

    Reply
    Tim Knight says:
    February 18, 2021 at 5:31 pm
    He was seen riding an Ox and setting off firecrackers.
    _________________________________________________________

    This legit made me laugh out loud for 5 minutes

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I’m suggesting he used China to steal an election. China changed votes for biden.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        OMG….lmao again. Spreading more lies. That’s what you do. Is that cherry picking or just blatant cult thinking and conspiracy thought?

        I guess all the Republic judges that threw out “steal the vote” cases, and all the Republican legislatures that certified their state votes, and yes only votes challenged were in predominately black and brown districts, were in cahoots with China.

        Some, will believe anything and they’re not even on drugs! Lmfao!

  89. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    M13, I haven’t talked about any of the 270+ DE/Edge defenders much, except maybe Carlos Basham. I have been focusing on the OLB/Edge type players like Ossai and Ojulari. I guess they seem to offer more flexibility, speed and quickness. Not always the case though.

    One in that 270+ weight group with good speed and quickness I like is Dayo Odeyingbo from Vanderbilt. I think he is underrated. I think he would have gone late 2nd to 3rd round. Unfortunately, he opted out of the last game of the season to preserve his health and train for the draft then tore his achilles training.

    Not sure how far he falls, could be significant and worth a late pick (6th or 7th) if he falls that far.

    For 6’6 276, he has really good quickness and closing speed check him out at the 11 second mark on this stunt. Looks like a LB with that quickness.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      When I see DEs or LBs in that 6’6″ – 6’7″ range I usually take a look. I think of JT, Ted Hendricks, and Ed Too Tall Jones being a pain in the ass to throw over. JPP also

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Just watched his highlight reel, he’s my kind of DE. He reminds me of a cross between JPP and OV, because of the speed and angles he takes in pursuit.

      I commented on OVs pursuit right after we drafted him, with a similar response.

      These type of pursuit, effort kind of players are what make a D great.

      Everytime we had a return going after a TO Branden Jones would come flying up to block, once resulting in a key block for a td, he’s uses the same effort/pursuit on D and why I think he’s going to be a real asset going forward.

      Nothing pusses me off more than to watch some slacker just going thru the motions

  90. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I agree with Mike on RB. I don’t want to miss out like we did last year.

    Ideally I’d like to see us get Najee somewhere after 18. I really want an LB at 18 or wherever our 2nd 1st is.

    I wouldn’t be surprised, if we traded back from 3, then up from 18, but not expecting a trade up.

  91. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If we end up taking a WR at 3

    Both 18 and 36 are good spots for both RB or Edge

    I’m assuming those are are three top positional targets
    Top of the 2nd round is usually a great place for RBs
    But there are enough good pass rushers this year for it to also be a good spot for a pass rusher

    There are some other positions we can look at but those are usually my top 3 picks

  92. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Apropos of nothing….

  93. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    steveccnv says:
    February 19, 2021 at 8:49 am
    I’m suggesting he used China to steal an election. China changed votes for biden.
    ___________________

    Well that’s not funny. I didn’t even have an awkward chuckle. Have you tried writing your own material?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      All the video evidence is out there, starting with the Dominion machines being connected to the internet, then you have the handbook saying to connect it to manipulate the votes.

      You guys can’t see the forest for the trees with the election fraud or just choose to ignore

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      My memories of Jake are all great ones, he was one of my favorite all time ayers. It just kills me that you tarnish that by taking his name

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I take it as a compliment, when you call me a liar, since biden and the left haven’t told the truth about anything in 5 years and you believe it all.

      Twain must’ve known you personally and why he said what he did about fools

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        From the guy who can’t remember the last 5 years was a Trump administration. And, can’t get over the results.

        Talk about sore losers and cult thinking.

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