A Proposed Watson Trade To Spoil Your Life

King Go ScrewYourself

Gather around Dolfans, this Piggy has a fairy tale for you. This one is about a wise old expert who called himself King

A man dressed as a King stands up in downtown Miami

“Dolfans everywhere gather around. I am King Go ScrewYourself. As King I also declare myself an NFL Expert capable of reminding the Miami Dolphins how much I hate them. “

A crowd of Dolphins fans gather around the King.

One screams “Arghhhh! We missed the playoffs!”

A second angry fans screams “No more losing!”

A third raises a torch “Stop the losing”

The King tries to calm them down. “I know my subjects, and as many of you know Tua Tagovailoa did not pass for 5,000 yards.”

The fans all raise their fists angrily. One yells “ how dare he!” A second screams “One year is enough!”

The King continues to speak “This is not the time to sit and wait to see what develops. This is the time for action! We must move on from the Tua era of the last”. The King checks his notes “The Tua era of the last few months”

The crowds roars in agreement.

The King continues “A Quarterback is available. His name is Deshaun Watson. And we can have him for cheap.”

The first fan speaks up “Give up a first round pick”

The King replies “We shall! We shall give up two!”

The second fan yells “two is not so bad…”

The King replies “…..this year” the King continues “and our first round picks in 2022….and 2023”

The first fan declares “Watson is worth it. He passed for 4800 yards last year!”

The King interrupts “Which is why we must add more! We will add all the second rounders too”

The second fan declares “We don’t need second rounders…go for it…”

The King adds “ For the next 20 years…and the third rounders too!”

The first fan pauses a moment and then says “Well….its been a while since Dan Marino retired”

The King interrupts “ yes…so very long have you suffered. Let’s add some players….”

The first fan insists “how about that guy who hurt Preston Williams”

The King excitedly replies “Wilkins is outta here!”

“And what about that other guy Howard” The Second fans yells “ he was arrested!”

The King adds “he shot a puppy….and ate it….I read that”

”Get rid of him!” The fans scream. “That should be enough to get Watson”

The King says “It’s a start!” There is more though….

The first fan says “As long as it fills the stadium”.

The King replies “about that stadium….um…we have to let the Texans use it from time to time….”

The second fan asks “okay, no problem, how often?”

The King replies “just Sundays”

The first fan speaks up “Done!”

The second fans turns to him “This is going to be great, I’m going to bring my kids to see Watson throw for touchdown after touchdown”

The King interrupts “oh….about those kids…”

The fans turn to the King “what about them?”

The King explains “so take a look at this map…if your kids are born in zones A1 through A3…then those kids will have to go to Texas”

The first fan yells “What?”

The King explains “How else will maintain the lawns of Houston….that’s part of the deal….but only Zone A. Zones B and C are responsible for washing the cars in Houston, Zone D cleans their homes”.

The second fan explains “Well, it is Watson….and we still have our wives”

The King replies “Yes you still have your wives and girlfriends….on every other Tuesday anyway. Pretty good deal right?”

This first fan says “well we do get Watson”

The King explains “and the details of the trade will be delivered through the rectum”

The fans begins to walk away depressed.

The King tries to stop them “Where are you going, I didn’t get to the part about your mothers”

The King completes the deal. By 2023 Watson opts out of his contract

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454 Responses to A Proposed Watson Trade To Spoil Your Life

  1. Tim Knight says:

    I hope they roll with Tua.

  2. New Age says:

    Pretty funny Piggy. I could also see Watson opting out if we dared to let the GM decide who we draft, and the coach decide who plays. He might get mad if Ross didn’t hire his mom either! She wants to help! How dare they! At least we’d get Watson!

  3. ElephantRider says:

    Lol Piggy! Pretty accurate!

  4. Watson is awesome, but Houston wont even take phone calls on him, who knows what they are thinking

  5. very funny story Piggy, lol

    but Kings, politics? i thought,,, lol JK

    great job! and yes, the fans need to be careful what they wish for. the same fans calling for Tuas head were excited that the fins drafted Tua

    obviously not everyone is management material, lol but the Fins have great management, IMO

    cant wait to see whats next

  6. its a little bit ironic, that Tiger woods rolled his suv into a sign that said rolling hills,

    luckily he survived it, and no word if he was being chased by an angry woman with a bat this time

  7. Krishna says:

    Lol! Stay the couse.

  8. Mike E. says:

    Welcome back Piggy! Funny stuff. You know how I feel, I’ve said it a hundred different times. Tua is our QB, build a great team around him. That’s what we’ve been doing, no reason to subtract talent and draft capital to add talent. I really would be upset if we traded for Watson. I’d get over it, but I like the direction we’ve been following and feel we should stay on it.

  9. i dont believe in giving up on first round pick QB’s after their rookie season, unless
    something fundamentally changes.

    the FA should be able to scout and select talent worthy of a top pick, but it usually takes time to properly evaluate the upside of an NFL QB

  10. Mike E. says:

    Back to the Aaron Jones FA signing potential. Aaron Jones is a product of the GB offense. He has Aaron Rodgers as his QB. Excellent O-line. Anyone see what Le’veon Bell has done since leaving Pittsburgh? Please don’t spend $11M + per year on a running back. Draft a RB or two, but spend that money elsewhere. He had one season where he had a ton of TD’s (16). It’s an aberration. He’s an 8-10 TD a season guy who may give you 1000-1200 yards, and catch about 50 passes. You can find that in the draft.

  11. sb7mvp says:

    I don’t have a problem using the draft capital to obtain players, but overpriced QB’s and RB’s is not how you use them.

  12. i still am amazed that Matt Breida didnt get more carries, he did an incredible job for san fran, and he had a decent yards per carry average with the fins.

    he must have pissed Flo off and got in his doghouse, smh

  13. bailbondmike says:

    If they were to do that Watson trade it would kill our cap space and the ability to bring in any body else worth a crap. That is a big no for me.

    I am with MikeE on Aaron Jones. No need to pay that money on a RB unless it was Derrick Henry. Then again, both those teams have really good OL and ours is not there yet.

    Save that money and resign some of our F/A’s and sign some cheaper F/A’s who will be upgrades or give us better depth.

  14. Mike E. says:

    David – Aaron Jones is a FA, we’re not discussing trades. Also, Travis Henry is a pretty obscure example and basically doesn’t have anything to do with a similar situation to signing Aaron Jones as a FA.

    • i hear ya on Henry, but why is he obscure? just curious as to why You feel that way.

      there are other examples of booms, and busts too, Ricky Williams was not drafted by Miami, but he was a fine addition to the team, and maybe the fins best rb they ever had
      im sure glad he was brought in.

      and he also, ran into trouble with the marijuana testing, smh

    • steveccnv says:

      Well they’re both in the NFL🤪

    • steveccnv says:

      Mike quit while you still your sanity

      • steveccnv says:

        You prove my point every time you come on here.

        Mike says, he doesn’t want Aaron Jones, because he believes he’s a product of the system and you respond with an example of a random TE, then go off on this mj rant and bring in RW, because he also smoked…

        You did the same thing yesterday with Cruz. You kept going off about him that no one was talking about or disagreeing on.

        When you were in school did you ride on the short bus

      • you need to get your act together , You are lying to yourself, among everyone else

        i caught you red handed lying yesterday, to deny it, would be just another lie for You,
        its pathetic why you feel the need to deny reality, and lie to everyone, that is not the way i choose to live My life, so butt out
        i was having a nice convo with Mike, and you had to make trouble? serious? suks to be u, cancun cruz sucker liar and denier

      • btw, Henry is not a TE, hes a RB

        just butt out of my convo, you are undeserving of My time and i have huge gains to make in the market today, its a strong bull day

      • steveccnv says:

        Looks like short bus has been confirmed

      • if you were lying yesterday, You are lying today , thats been confirmed

        for your info, i drove to school with a car, never saw you on the bus

  15. we dont know what the cap will be yet, the NFL is currently working on TV coverage fees, which will change that .
    the NFL is attempting to double the fees for TV networks to carry games. and meeting resistance, especially from Disney, who is already grumbling about paying too much for MNF.

    if, and when, the tv contract fees go up significantly, then so will the cap

  16. New Age says:

    l’m also with Mike on this. We already wasted a ton of money on two terrible RBs last year. That should have been the lessen even if there aren’t dozens of lessens littered all over the NFL the past two decades. Use a pick, pay very little money, and get value at a position that is highly dependent on the OL and QB to produce anyway.

    Jones came from a great team with a great QB and OL to work with. His production wasn’t all on his team…but a lot of it was.

  17. ocalarob says:

    i would never do the Peter King trade for Watson, i would be hard pressed to give up #18 for him even though i think he’s great.
    Watsons value will come down, Miami has a lot going for them to make this deal without giving up the farm, first Watson has to approve any deal which would eliminate a lot of teams right off the bat. if he does not get moved before the draft that reduces more teams as most of them are set by that time. then we all know how Miami owns houston in any trade deals as they were fleeced in the last trade.
    I may give up 18 and a 2nd this year, that’s it! oh yeah and dump Tua on them for the finishing touch.

  18. bookman11 says:

    LOL, nice write up. It reminds me of the witch scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. and that is how I imagined it when I read it.

    I know Tim will appreciate that reference, LOL

  19. bailbondmike says:

    We could use our cap money to sign a good WR. I mean there are 6 really good F/A WR’s out there. Two of them are from the Lions so I am sure they resign one of them.

    Allen Robinson, Chicago Bears
    Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Probably resigns w/Tampa)
    JuJu Smith-Schuster, Pittsburgh Steelers (Just say no to this one)
    Kenny Golladay, Detroit Lions
    Will Fuller, Houston Texans
    Marvin Jones Jr., Detroit Lions

    What about Will Fuller? He is not a tough receiver. Kind of like a Kenny Stills 2.0. He does bring that elite speed. He ran a 4.32 40 at the combine. Fuller was the only one of this group to have sub 4.4 speed. Godwin and Jones were very low 4.4’s but Jones is going to be 31 at the start of next season.. The others ran over 4.5 40’s. I think if we add a F/A WR it should be Godwin or Fuller.

  20. Ken says:

    At last a worthy ruler to follow

  21. bailbondmike says:

    We could also use that cap space to sign stud OLB’s Bud Dupree or Haason Reddick. I think Reddick is really going to get paid though.

    • steveccnv says:

      I don’t think we really have any cap space, unless it goes up to last year’s level.

      26m or so depending on the site, but we have a couple of our own guys to resign, then we have 6-10 or so M for the rookies.

      I think it’s foolish to sign FAs at this stage of the rebuild.

      Would you rather sign a couple of guys to get you to the playoffs, then when it’s time to make a title run they’re gone or use the 2021 cap dollars in years you’re actually a title contender?

  22. steveccnv says:

    In a ponzi scheme the schiester lies to you, takes your money, uses it to get rich and powerful, and promises you a guaranteed rate of return, but you’ll never see your investment money again.

    A politician lies to you, takes your money in the form of taxes and campaign contributions, uses it to get rich and powerful.

    In the end what’s the difference?

    Twain was right.

    That’s some ruler we have

  23. steveccnv says:

    Texans don’t want to trade Watson, and why would they with 21m in dead cap?

    Texans know better than anyone, you can’t let the inmates run the asylum

  24. bookman11 says:

    New Age, that is one of my all time favorite movie scenes.

  25. Mike E. says:

    David – Obscure because he had one decent season for the Titans. There are probably hundreds of better examples. Don’t worry about, it’s not really important.

  26. stangerx says:

    Good to see our Royal Pig talking to his people. Yeah the price of the Watson trade would probably be too much…… but we don’t know what it is yet. The guys on the Texans ain’t even answering the phones, which means the people suggesting this or that don’t know either.

  27. stangerx says:

    “I may give up 18 and a 2nd this year, that’s it! oh yeah and dump Tua on them for the finishing touch.”

    ORob — in that case you don’t want Watson. Guess you prefer riding with Tua as your man. 🙂

  28. mf13ss says:

    As I said a few weeks ago, Big Ben isn’t going anywhere. And as I posted all of the potential QB moves a few nights ago, I never mentioned the Stealers* and Big Ben.

    So, what does this all mean? Big Ben will probably sign a cap-friendly extension, saving the Stealers* around $15M for the 2021 season. In doing so, the Stealers* could probably bring back both JuJu and Bud Dupree.

    In the end, I’d probably cross out JuJu and Dupree on our FA wish lists. I really would have liked Dupree on our team.

    • steveccnv says:

      Steelers are 19m over the cap, and Biggie has a 22m deadcap #, with 19m cash due for the year.

      What they can do is give him the 19m in cash, but set it up as a bonus, then the vet min of roughly 1m, so his cap number would be 22m + 1m + 18m/# of years in New contract. So a 4 yr extension would mean 27.5m cap hit this year and…ah FU MF😉 15m is correct as cap savings

  29. mf13ss says:

    I’m also hearing rumors that several of the top WRs hitting FA may be slapped with the Franchise Tag. We’ll have to wait and see what happens, but I don’t think we’re going to get the prized WR we want via FA. There may be one, maybe two FA WRs we might pursue when the smoke clears, but it’s possible that there will be no ‘elite’ WRs left when it’s all said and done.

  30. mf13ss says:

    Regarding the potential signing of Aaron Jones…

    Some of y’all have made outstanding points so as not to sign him, citing our O-Line isn’t equivalent to Green Bay’s, a big cap hit, and he’s operating behind arguably one of the best QBs of this generation (A-Rod). I cannot disagree with any of those points… PROPS!

    Should we not sign A Jones, we’d better be selecting a RB fairly early in the Draft… no later than the 3rd round (I’d prefer the late-1st to early-2nd): we can’t be left out of nice RB again, as we were last year.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree! We need talent at that position, someone who must be accounted for by opposing defenses, someone who needs to be game planned against. It’s been a while since we had that.

      • mf13ss says:

        Absolutely. Should we trade down from R1P3 (just a bit now, not far), the resulting compensation in draft draft capital should allow us to be able to trade back up into the late-first to take the first elite RB off the board.

        Once the first RB goes, there will undoubtedly be a run on the position, and we will have missed our chance by the time we select again.

    • stangerx says:

      Aaron Jones is a mighty fine RB. Gonna be the most expensive one signed though. Not sure if we are at that point. We do sign him and that is pretty much it though except for some low-to-mid-level stuff.

  31. The Flying Pig says:

    I generally just think, at the RB position, it’s wise to use the draft

    They don’t have very long careers and the position is the most likely to lend itself to making an impact as a rookie

    • stangerx says:

      Like the Broncos way — just keep drafting them low to mid and see who works out.

      • mf13ss says:

        Correct, but a team must have an established O-Line to make that work. Alex Gibbs (Godfather of the zone-blocking scheme) and Gary Kubiak are the ones who made it happen in Denver. I hope we get there soon with our O-Line.

      • stangerx says:

        Seems we did a bit of it with Gaskin and Ahmed and the OL we got. One was a 7th and the other an undrafted pick-up.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s pretty much every GMs thinking, but every once in a while game changer comes out and someone takes him high, and in 3 years or less isn’t still elite.

      To get one of the to 3 backs we can wait until 36

  32. stangerx says:

    Domestic sheep are bred to grow wool. Here’s what happens when one goes wild and doesn’t get sheared.

  33. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    February 24, 2021 at 10:58 am
    Texans don’t want to trade Watson, and why would they with 21m in dead cap?

    The fear that Watson may sit out may change their mind, he my pull a leveon Bell

  34. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    February 24, 2021 at 1:30 pm
    “I may give up 18 and a 2nd this year, that’s it! oh yeah and dump Tua on them for the finishing touch.”

    ORob — in that case you don’t want Watson. Guess you prefer riding with Tua as your man. 🙂

    Not sure how you came to that conclusion, unless he’s dealt, Watson value will drop when the draft gets here, there will be less teams to be able to pull the trigger and the Texans are draft starved.

    • stangerx says:

      Just don’t think his price will drop that low.. And your ” unless he’s dealt” before the draft figures into that majorly.

  35. mf13ss says:


    Deshaun Watson made official a few days ago a list of teams he’s be willing to be traded to: the stej, the Panthers, and us Phins.

    • mf13ss says:


    • steveccnv says:

      That no trade clause he has doesn’t mean anything. He can say I’ll only play for those 3 teams, but if they don’t want him he has to update his list.

      A no trade clause really only works in the other direction. Texans might want to trade him to the cheats, but he says no, the Texans could say FU, then we aren’t going to trade you

  36. Tim Knight says:

    That was funny, Piggy. I didn’t get to read it last night.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Birthday Coach Flo!

  38. stangerx says:

    Was reading some Watson trade speculation pieces. A number of them pointed out we have to pony up more cause our future picks aren’t worth as much as say those of the Jets or Panthers.

    Not the “Tank for Tua” days any more. Sorta nice.

  39. steveccnv says:

    Looks like everyone’s favorite whooping boy is in more hot water. Cuomo now being accused of sexual assault. Lock him up

    • Mike E. says:

      Let’s see if they go after him like they went after Judge Kavanaugh

      • stangerx says:

        Allegations not of proper conduct, but then Trump has been accused of the same or worse more than a dozen times. And I’m against all of them. So not sure how which party becomes involved.

      • Mike E. says:

        Stanger, sure, Trump was accused, and he was probably guilty too, but he wasn’t in office when it happened.

      • stangerx says:

        Think it wrong whether a guy is in office or not, but might just be me. Goes for cheating too.

  40. mf13ss says:

    Oh boy… here we go again with more political rhetoric!

  41. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – It’s definitely wrong either way, but if you do it while in office, you’re not getting another political spot in your lifetime.

    • stangerx says:

      And don’t think you should get another political spot. Just don’t see the big difference from before in office.. Think same should apply.

      • steveccnv says:

        Sure Stanger impeach Trump now from being a civilian. That’s how ridiculous what you wrote sounds.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — only said such is wrong whether a guy is in office or not. You think that is ridiculous?

  42. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I think the general consensus these days is to draft RBs. Just because there are reports that we’re interested in Aaron Jones doesn’t mean it will happen. But he’s a really good RB and still young.

  43. steveccnv says:

    Biden now trying to make China great again by his new executive order on removing loans for fossil plants around the world.

    Can he be any more in the tank for China? Dumbasses excuse was it will embarrass China

  44. manitobafinfan says:

    I do like Fuller when he is on the field… but like our own 2 starting we, he misses LOTS of games

    Godwin has displayed bad hands, and is a slot type guy , so no thanks …

    • manitobafinfan says:

      M Jones is pretty much best option out there , agree with just say no to JJSS…

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Oh , I just reread and he’s 31, so he will be a possession guy , solid pro but we need more 👍😊 draft some speed

      • Tim Knight says:

        Marvin Jones just seems like the right guy. He’s not going to a top paid WR but he’s a very productive vet WR.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        I liked him back when he was Bengal with Sanu. Did not realize he was already 31 , but I guess it makes sense…

        Robinson and Hurns were a great pair as well back in the day , I always thought Hurns was the better of the two.. maybe we can catch lightning again

  45. olddolphan says:


  46. Tim Knight says:

    What I think this needs to do to take the next step.
    1. OL continue to improve and build chemistry which is huge for an OL.
    2. The running game becomes more explosive and consistent.
    3. Tua takes the next step in his game.
    4. Add speed to the WR position.
    5. Add speed to the front 7.

  47. olddolphan says:

    Finally able to get back on the board. Don’t know why I couldn’t get on yesterday or just a few minutes ago.
    YOUNG STANGER: Pleeze ignore my “help” phone call message I left you a few minutes ago. Hope y’all have a great day tomorrow. Here, we had highs in the mid-70’s and lows in the 50’s. But the heat returns in a couple of days.

  48. steveccnv says:

    OD, why does it seem like it’s harder to score 5 v 3, then 5 v 4?

    When there’s 3 skaters they pack it in, why don’t they do more of that, when there’s 4 skaters?

  49. wyoming85 says:

    Nice write Piggy!
    The comments are shit! 😉

  50. sb7mvp says:

    I hope everyone’s doing well today. Life is short. Praise the Groundhog.

  51. Mike E. says:

    Toba – Robinson was always the much more explosive receiver of the two Allens. Hurns was more of a possession type receiver, but he was solid. They were quite a tandem

  52. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    February 24, 2021 at 6:40 pm
    Allegations not of proper conduct, but then Trump has been accused of the same or worse more than a dozen times.
    stangerx says:
    February 24, 2021 at 9:08 pm
    steve — only said such is wrong whether a guy is in office or not. You think that is ridiculous?

    Stanger Allegations are not proof.
    reading your posts it would appear that you are accusing & convicting trump of wrong doing without any proof of anything. you’ve stated your Allegations and have given your verdict.
    i just wonder how that shoe would wear on your foot?

    I think it’s very lame.

    • stangerx says:

      I used the word allegations. Never said there was proof of anything. That such conduct was wrong was in terms of Mike E’s distinction about in office or not. If it appeared otherwise to you then suggest you read the stream again. Might not seem so lame after that second read.

  53. ocalarob says:

    I’m not down on giving away multiple early draft picks for any one player, i’m exactly the opposite, i want to get more early picks.
    as much as i would like to see Watson in Miami, no way am i following the stafford/rams philosophy.

  54. ocalarob says:

    2.5 weeks till FA, that may tell a lot who we will be targeting in the draft.

  55. ocalarob says:

    did i mention that Mac Jones is way better than Tua?

  56. ocalarob says:

    Jones has way better throwing mechanics than Tua,

  57. ocalarob says:

    how do i post a picture? can anyone explain that to me?

  58. Rhino says:

    my 2 cents on all the Watson talk …

    1. For all of his amazing stats and awards, Watson is a clear example that not all QBs can carry their teams to consistent playoff appearances.

    2. Rebuilding teams (legit rebuilds, not the illusion of rebuilds that the Fins were stuck in for a decade), but real rebuilds are most successful with a QB on a rookie contract.
    A trade for Watson absolutely blows up this current rebuild, and we become the new Texans… a great QB but without the ability to build around him over the foreseeable future.

    3. If the Fins are unhappy with Tua’s rookie season (!!) AND want to continue the rebuild, then it makes more sense to use the #3 pick on a QB and continue the rebuild with guys that fit Flores’ philosophy and character.

    4. Only way Fins get close to a deal for Watson is if Watson sits out or some other thing that dramatically drops the price.

    5. Finally, Flores has shown that he does not tolerate players wanting to dictate what the team does, no matter how talented they might be … see Minkah Fitzpatrick, Pro Bowl and First Team All-Pro in both of the last two seasons. I just can’t see Flores agreeing to bring in a guy who is forcing his way out of a team because he was part of front office decisions… no matter how talented. It doesn’t fit the character of “team first” guys.

  59. ocalarob says:

    i have a JPEG of Tua, i can’t post that pic, when i drag it on it just shows the pic???

    • pheloniusphish says:

      No. Copy the address (URL) of the pic, either from your address bar or by left clicking on the pic and selecting copy address. If the address ends in .jpeg or .png it will post as a pic. If there are characters after the .jpeg delete them.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      If the pic is from Facebook or Instagram or any other social media, the account has to be open to the public.

  60. ocalarob says:

    I copied the pic and pasted it in paint, then saved as a jpeg on my desktop, but cant post it on the site

    • ocalarob says:

      got it, look how low and wide the ball is, Tua being 5’7″ tall, imagine trying to get that ball off in a crowd of 6’6″ tall DL & OL with their arms up?
      this is why he can’t get the ball down field, his brain knows at times he can’t get the pass off so he holds it

  61. Mike E. says:

    The ORob philosophy on QB’s : Anyone is better than Tua

  62. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    February 25, 2021 at 9:50 am
    The ORob philosophy on QB’s : Anyone is better than Tua

    instead of beating me up on my point of view maybe you should add yours to show where our opinions differ

  63. steveccnv says:

    It’s exhausting looking at Fins new these days. Too much speculation disguised as fact on all the FAs and Watson.

    I’d be surprised, if we sign anyone in FA over 10m per year avg.

  64. ocalarob says:

    Wow Tiger woods suffered severe leg injuries, his right leg compound fractures in two places, i sure hope he recovers and can play golf again.

  65. The Flying Pig says:


    Google whatever image you like
    Click on it
    Copy it
    Then paste it

    But make sure you copied the photo not the link
    If you copy a photo it should end in jpg or some other format

    If it doesn’t, you didn’t copy the photo you copied something else
    If it starts with “google” you copied the search you did….lol

    Here is an example of a photo I copied of the greatest QB of all time….lol

    • The Flying Pig says:

      In order to find that photo I googled “why is ORob wrong”
      Then I clicked on images
      Then I clicked on the image I liked
      Then I tried to copy that but I copied the link.
      So I went to the link and copied the photo
      And then I copied the photo by clicking on the photo

      When I pasted it I knew it would be the photo bc it ended in jpeg

  66. The Flying Pig says:

    Yesterday was Brian Flores’ birthday

    Happy Late Birthday Coach

  67. Mike E. says:

    Steve- Really? Debating isn’t allowed here? How do you figure that?

  68. Mike E. says:

    Rob – Tell me, why do you think the Dolphins, Brian Flores included in this, decided to draft Tua? Give me your best idea as to why that happened?

  69. Mike E. says:

    Looks like perfect mechanics to me

  70. The Flying Pig says:

    A new subject has arisen from these photos

    The weird stuff QBs do with their other hand

  71. The Flying Pig says:

    Aaron Rogers TRex

  72. The Flying Pig says:

    I might trade for Watson just for this 80s metal throwback

  73. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – How about faces they make? Mahomey looks like he finished a bottle of tequila before he got back in on offense on that drive.

  74. The Flying Pig says:

    When Lauren says she’s going to start without you

  75. Mike E. says:

    Fuck man, I want to debate how we’re not allowed to debate here! Such oppression!

  76. The Flying Pig says:

    1st place goes to Ryan Fitzpatrick’s “get off me” elbow

  77. The Flying Pig says:

    How many TDs will you throw for today?

  78. The Flying Pig says:

    Making space to protect the knee

  79. Mike E. says:

    I see pictures of Marino in his later years and he reminds me of Darth Vader. He had so many braces and pads. I wish he could have played in this era, he’d throw for 5,000 + yards every season

  80. The Flying Pig says:

    USFL passing yards were just as hard to come by as NFL yardage

  81. The Flying Pig says:

    The ruffi drop

  82. The Flying Pig says:

    Okay – that’s bough for the day. Go to get back to work

  83. steveccnv says:

    With the salary cap likely to go down, and with no one really knowing how that’s going to affect FA, it would be wise not to pay a high price for FAs, when FA opens.

  84. stangerx says:

    Rhino says:
    February 25, 2021 at 9:24 am

    3. If the Fins are unhappy with Tua’s rookie season (!!) AND want to continue the rebuild, then it makes more sense to use the #3 pick on a QB and continue the rebuild with guys that fit Flores’ philosophy and character.
    I’m surprised that hasn’t been mentioned more. Was a lot when we first got #3. And if not sold on Tua is a logical move. Gonna be there even if Watson stays with the Texans or goes to a team other than us.

  85. Mike E. says:

    Steve – Everyone gets to say what they want. How it’s received is up to the person who reads it and how they react is also up to them. I don’t see any censorship happening here, although occasionally when things get heated we try and steer the convo to something else. I don’t think it’s such a bad situation, so I don’t feel bad about how we handle things here in the least.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I feel good about the way we handle things

      The reality is you can’t please everyone – that’s just the way it goes

      Unless everyone gives up pork – that’s utopia

    • steveccnv says:

      Mike, don’t take it so literal. It had nothing to do with sensorship. I was referring to people not wanting to debate and instead lecturing.

      Don’t worry, you still have your A grade for free speech here🙃

  86. The Flying Pig says:

    When you want to high five the GM who decides to “move on” from you

  87. stangerx says:

    When a dog walker should get hazard pay. Also when Dognapping becomes a real profitable business. And the pooches will never get on a witness stand.
    A thief shot Lady Gaga’s dog walker and made off with two of her French bulldogs. The singer is “extremely upset” and is offering a $500,000 reward for the safe return of Koji and Gustav “no questions” asked.

  88. The Flying Pig says:

    Giving thought to where Stephon Diggs might end up

  89. The Flying Pig says:

    “Okay okay, I’ll throw it”

  90. Mike E. says:

    Rhino – Gotta be honest, if we draft a QB at #3 I’m gonna lose my shit. There’s not one prospect in this class other Trevor Lawrence that was a better prospect than Tua. Unless Tua has a medical issue that will hamper him his entire career or severely shorten, it just doesn’t make sense to take another QB. Flores was here when we drafted Tua. His IS one of his guys.

    • stangerx says:

      It’s very unlikely, but if you are one of the guys who think Tua is a ball & chain rather than a springboard makes sense as the out option. Just one year later after all and we can trade Tua….. or the guy we pick for that matter.

  91. The Flying Pig says:

    How you greet the Team that helped you escape Detroit

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    When you first notice that thing on your face?

  93. The Flying Pig says:

    When you think about what you wore to the post game conference

  94. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, cracking me up, Pig

  95. pheloniusphish says:

    I don’t want them to take Smith at three. Don’t really want them to take anyone at three. rather slide back a couple. If they do take a WR at three, let it be Waddle. Feel the need for speed.

  96. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    February 25, 2021 at 10:25 am
    I’ll settle for walking again and mo amputation

    oh hell yeah! you never know if he damaged a nerve or lost blood supply too long.

  97. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    February 25, 2021 at 10:44 am
    Rob – Tell me, why do you think the Dolphins, Brian Flores included in this, decided to draft Tua? Give me your best idea as to why that happened?

    well i would have no clue as to what the FO was thinking when they decided to use #5 on Tua, and for the most part i had no clue if it was the right call at the time, i will say i had my doubts at the time of drafting him, i also had doubts about Herbert as well, i wanted to trade back.

    why is everyone ignoring the fuck’n elephant in the room?

    there’s a reason why Tua can’t get the ball down field to his Rec’s, and watching that prompted me to find the reason why? when he had no choice but to go deep against Buffalo he threw multiple picks.

    the thing i got from watching Tua as opposed to other QBs that are throwing from the pocket under avg duress is that Tua’s release is way low, lower than any i had seen.

    he’s throwing from the pocket amongst tree’s sidearm, it doesn’t appear that he can throw an overhand throw so he gets stuck and that’s why he can’t release the ball.

    he doesn’t have the room to do so, so he tries to get clear of the traffic to release his side arm throw and that’s when he gets dumped by the D rush.

    at least that’s what i came up with trying to evaluate this elephant.

  98. stangerx says:

    Least seems that Miami is a popular choice among star QBs unhappy with their current team.
    Russell Wilson’s frustration with the Seattle Seahawks has “escalated to the point that his camp has broached potential trade destinations with the Seahawks,.” The Jets are among the teams that have been brought up by Wilson’s camp. Other teams include the Miami Dolphins, Las Vegas Raiders, and New Orleans Saints.

  99. mf13ss says:

  100. mf13ss says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You got to love Mando’s insight

      20 mins after shefter reports the teams Wilson wold consider
      Mando reports that he was “told’ the Dolphins weren’t one of those teams


  101. mf13ss says:

    Can’t lie: I like this draft for us… but Najee Harris going in the top-10?!! There’s a surprise!

  102. steveccnv says:

    Watson and Wilson likely stay put, but…

    I’m liking Darnold more and more for the jets, with all of these QBs floating around.

  103. Randy says:

    As an NFL QB you need to be able to throw from all kinds of different platforms and arm angles. Unless you’re Tom Brady and your OL never gets called for holding, QBs don’t have the time to just stand in the pocket and make a classic high, overhand release. It simply doesn’t happen most of the time. Look at Mahomes, people think he’s great. He certainly doesn’t throw the ball very often with a classic delivery.
    And the height thing: Fran Tarkenton, 6’…40K+ yards, HOF; Drew Brees, 80K+ yards, future HOF; Russell Wilson, 5’11”, 30K+ yards. Kyler Murray, 5’10” and in 2 years has thrown for almost 8K yards and 50 TDs. Yeah, ya gotta be 6’5” to be able to play in the NFL. This conversation is pointless….and now I feel dumber for having participated in it.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      There’s only one way to judge QBs

      By the weird gestures they make with their nonthrowing hand

    • ocalarob says:

      it not so much how tall the QB is, Tarkenton had a great release, so does Drew Brees, you are comparing their size vs their throwing motion, you can be 6′ and still get the ball off with a high release point, however if your release point is at shoulder level and very wide due to lack of arm strength you will have trouble.

      I agree your assessment is pretty dumb.

  104. The Flying Pig says:

    I think we all know which blogger to blame for this

  105. mf13ss says:

  106. ocalarob says:

    i don’t know why i bother, fuck you!

  107. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 25, 2021 at 3:12 pm
    Texans have a tough situation – but I don’t want to trade for Watson

    I don’t want to give up close to their price
    Agreed. I was initially intrigued when Watson demanded a trade, but I’ve since soured. We’ve got much ammo to get things back on track for a Super Bowl run.

    And I believe a full offseason, TC, and weight training will help Tua big time… not to mention he’ll be that much further removed from his major hip surgery.

  108. steveccnv says:

    Detroit didn’t have to trade Stafford, so his value was high.

    If Houston really believes Watson won’t play for them, that could lower the asking price, depending on demand

  109. mf13ss says:


    I honestly share your dismay of Tua this past season… especially when comparing him to Herbert and Burrow. We see eye-to-eye on the results and film of last year.

    However, I think he’s going to get a lot of the hiccups fixed during this offseason. Like I said above to Pig, I believe a full offseason (COVID killed a full offseason last year), TC, and weight training will help Tua big time… not to mention he’ll be that much further removed from his major hip surgery. And I forgot to add film study above. He and the staff will be forced to address everything you’ve cited, in the film room.

    I think you bring a lot of knowledge to the table, and I also think Tua will get his issues fixed as everything you’ve cited will be addressed. Tua’s smart, resilient, a top-notch competitor, and a workaholic. JMO, my Brother!

  110. Mike E. says:

    I feel like Tua is just working as hard as he can. You can see the muscle mass he put on already in the offseason, and that’s all you can ask. If he fails, it will not be due to lack of effort. I think an upgrade at talent at WR and RB will be a huge shot in the arm for Tua. Also you compare Tua to a longtime veteran like Fitzpatrick who played with all of these guys the previous season and was so much quicker to assimilate what he was seeing with the defense. I think Tua will be a better QB next season, I can’t wait to see it.

  111. stangerx says:

    Why you guys picking on ORob? He has his own view on the QB situation, and many of the details good ones. What debates are about. Don’t think Tua has gotten his HOF invite yet.

    • Mike E. says:

      Geez, we differ in opinion. Is that picking on him? QB’s throw the football with all different kinds of deliveries. I think saying that his delivery is poor and he won’t succeed because of that is way premature. I think saying he won’t succeed for any reason right now is premature. Why people want to go to the drawing board and start again when there are so many similar situations around the NFL where QB’s didn’t have a good first season, and holy fuck, this was not the optimal situation for Tua in any way, he was coming off a major injury, no training camp, no preseason, nothing. Hopefully this year he will be more in tune with his body and his teammates and start with a training camp and a couple of preseason games and he will be on track to have a much better 2nd season. Josh Allen who’s now killing it in our division in his 3rd season after playing worse than Tua his first season. Oh, and no coincidence that happened after acquiring better talent at the WR position. Can we give OUR QB the same courtesy?

      • ocalarob says:

        some things you can’t fix, one of them is arm strength, and i believe that’s the root of his issues, he has to adjust his throwing motion to make up for the lack of arm strength.

      • stangerx says:

        Was mostly joking Mike, but did seem ORob was getting frustrated.

  112. stangerx says:

    “Mike Greenberg will replace Trey Wingo as the main host for the ESPN’s coverage of the 2021 NFL draft, hosting the broadcasts for the first two days of the three-day event.”

    I’m cool with Greeny doing it.

  113. steveccnv says:

    SMH I’m watching Kipers mock draft Fins on the clock at 18, they went to a commercial, so maybe they’re trying to make it like the real draft

  114. The Flying Pig says:

  115. Rockphin says:

    How does Gregory Rousseau rate a first round pick with only one year of production? He is so RAW My fear is his is another DionFF. Superman physically but never reach his potential.

    • mf13ss says:

      Agreed, that he’s exceptionally RAW. His upside is huge on paper, but we don’t know much about him, in terms of repeated production.

      I’m a big fan of Azeez Ojulari, Georgia, EDGE, instead of Rousseau.

  116. Rockphin says:

    I hope the Texans make dickshawn sit out a year and lose his $$ and eligibility accrual.

  117. Mike E. says:

    Rob, do you know Tom Brady has worked his entire career strengthening his arm? He’s worked on his core strength and his arm strength and they even mentioned it in the playoffs that he may be throwing harder now than he was years ago. I don’t believe that what you’re saying is accurate. Besides, seeing the field better, assimilating what you see better all make a better QB

    • steveccnv says:

      Maybe so, but he threw the same way at Bama, so…he is what he is

      • Mike E. says:

        Just a little reading comprehension test. If Brady is throwing harder now than he was during the rest of his entire career . . .

        A) Tua is what he was at Alabama

        B) Tua will always be what he was in Miami last season

        C) Tua is working really hard at getting stronger and that may help improve his throwing power

        D) Tom Brady is using illegal substances such as steroids or HGH

  118. The Flying Pig says:

    I was under the impression that Rousseau was more 2nd round material but you can see why nfl scouts love him

  119. The Flying Pig says:

    I tried away some late picks without realizing it


    Ja’Marr Chase
    WR LSU

    Joseph Ossai
    EDGE Texas
    trade icon

    Creed Humphrey
    OC Oklahoma

    Javonte Williams
    RB North Carolina

    Amon-Ra St. Brown
    WR USC
    trade icon

    Tommy Togiai
    DT Ohio State

    Trey Hill
    OC Georgia

  120. ElephantRider says:

    Wow….just wow. I can’t stop laughing.

  121. Tim Knight says:

    I expect a much improved Tua this season and he didn’t have a bad year or anything. But he did have some growing pains. So did the entire team. I think we’re on the right path. Just keep adding good players and getting better. I see good times ahead for this team. 🙂

  122. for the fair weather fans that gave up on TUa after a game or two, lol

    dont apply for a job in the NFL< they wont hire You with that shortsightedness

    he came off a major injury and will need more than his rookie season to properly evaluate, we dont want to rush him off to NE< and watch Bellicheat win a super bowl with him

  123. Brady gets phantom PI calls on his receivers, and not much holding called on the OL either.

    a good part of his success has come from cheating, personally, and league wide

    not every QB will get this advantage, just the lucky preferred guy,

    so when comparing other QB to brady, we cant forget that Brady gets separate rules for him that make him look FAR better than he ever was

  124. steveccnv says:

    globalization increases the returns to capital in rich countries like the U.S. and decreases the returns to labor in those same countries. That’s a fancy way of saying that low-skill jobs in the U.S. can disappear as a result of globalization (though technology plays a big role in this change, too). The result may be a decrease in the inequality between countries but an increase in the inequality within countries.

    Wait what? Globalization increases inequality in the US?

    I thought globalists wanted income equality🤔 boy was I taken for a ride.

    Who knew globalists were hiding behind the $15 min wage, just to send many of the jobs to other countries

  125. Krishna says:

    Do you really know what you’re talking about? Maybe it’s me, because I don’t have a clue. Please, help me understand.

  126. Krishna says:

    I’m still trying to understand how Orob’s theory didn’t get into Piggy’s article! Shameful! LOL!

  127. New Age says:

    These QB trade scenarios are some of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen and I hope these QBs aren’t really doing it. Any QB that has the Saints as his final destination, doesn’t know shit about the salary cap. Any QB who puts the Jets as a good destination, isn’t very smart. Putting out the teams you’d be willing to play for sounds like a kid telling you what they want for Christmas.

    Back to the Dolphins, I also think Tua has a very good second season and would love to see Chase as our first step towards getting him better tools.

    • Krishna says:

      Agree, except I think Tua needs better run support (RBs), OL help, and an upgrade to the WR unit. This year will be telling for Tua. Let’s see what happens.

      Unless you get Lawrence with the 3rd pick…lmao.

  128. Mike E. says:

    Steve – “we” is a broad term. I think you can debate with some and others I wouldn’t waste my time with, although I have and probably will continue to. lol

  129. pheloniusphish says:

    I hope Watson does go to the Jets. They are far from needing just one piece, Watson can’t carry them, and it hamstring them for years. Not that they need much help with the last one.

  130. Ken says:

    Looks like ORob picked a bad time to stop sniffing glue

  131. Krishna says:

    Not to get political because I think it’s more of a GLOBAL issue.

    If you can’t compete in technology, intelligence, socially, environmentally, on a grand energy level that is futuristic, and among a myriad of global fronts, you relegate yourself to the back of the line, imo.

    An isolationist position is petty and shortsighted, imo.

    Back to football, the ultimate team sport. It’s kinda like globalism. In order to win the SB, everyone on the team has to come together, imo. In football, that’s just what it is, globalism as a microcosm.

    • Ken says:

      I see what you did there. Nicely played 😁

    • ocalarob says:

      I agree, you should start by using solar power and wind energy to dry your clothes,

      it’s called a clothes line

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree with that, and the concept of globalization, but the point I was making was politicians use things like this, at the surface, to bring people in, then behind the scenes what you don’t see is their real corrupt plan.

      Globalization, like BLM, like global warming are all just fronts for these people to suck us in, so they can become rich and powerful and we can feel good about ourselves for taking their lead and being better people and humanitarians.

      A typical response is how can you be against BLM, when black people have been oppressed? Are you a racist? What these responders don’t get is what’s behind these fronts.

  132. bailbondmike says:

    Remember Hassan Reddick in the 2017 draft? He was one of the best edge rushers in that draft. Then you heard nothing about him for his first 3 years in the league. His #’s were pedestrian.

    I think we should try to sign him in F/A. Why?

    Everyone is saying we need to draft more pass rush. Because of his first 3 years with lackluster stats, I don’t think he would break the bank.

    Still, why would I want us to sign someone like him?

    First, he is only 26 and has never missed a game in his first 4 seasons. The main reason is he is a very good edge rusher. The problem was not him it was the AZ coaching staff. They drafted an edge rusher #13 overall in 2017 and decided to play him as an off ball ILB his first 3 seasons. After Vance Joseph’s first season as AZ’s DC in 2019, he saw where Reddick was best suited and moved him in 2020 to his natural position as an OLB/Edge defender and boom!

    In 2020, Reddick had 12.5 sacks, 6 FF and 4 PD’s. Of course, 5 of those sacks came in one game against the Giants.

  133. Krishna says:

    😏, trying.

  134. pheloniusphish says:

    Would annexing everything from the southern border to the south bank of the Panama Canal be considered “globalization?” Because I would be all for that.

  135. mf13ss says:


    I really liked Haasan Reddick as well in the ’17 Draft, and I like all of your points above. There’s only one thing: he performed in a contract year. That said, I hope we wouldn’t pay him MAD MONEY. Let somebody else give him some in$ane contract, just not us.

    If the price is right, I’d love to add him.

  136. CavalierKong says:

    Ahh yes, ye ol’ clothesline. This ancient technique has been passed down through the generations by the lore masters of my tribe.

    We still carry the implements and tools of this once great artistry; a relic and reminder of our once great culture now moved into antiquity.

    You can still make out the artifacts of this bygone era in the form of two dilapidated poles struggling as a bulwark against time and the elements in the end of yard of my mother’s mother. The once noble and sturdy lines of worked metal ore that connected the two, now no more.

    Some of the elders who inhabit nearby lodgings say that on bright, blustery days, if you listen carefully, you can still hear the ghostly wailing of the line on the wind, twisted and calling dolefully for the halcyon days of yore.

  137. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Kong – Well done!

  138. Mike E. says:

    NFL being very lazy. They usually have their prospect ratings out by now. I wonder if they aren’t going to do them this year.

    • stangerx says:

      When’s the last time we had a year without a combine? The info for that is what they use for the top players at least.

      • Mike E. says:

        Actually, they had them a month or two before the combine and then adjusted them after the combine. The pro days will be the closest thing to the combine and they will start in March I guess. Usually Zierlein does the player ratings, maybe he’s not with the NFL anymore

      • stangerx says:

        Completely schooled on that now…. no clue why haven’t come out. Doesn’t seem could be a Covid thing.

  139. bailbondmike says:

    MikeE, that was a good article! Some of those LB’s are doing very well.

  140. bailbondmike says:

    M13, you make a good point on it being a contract year for Reddick and that always has some impact. In this case, I feel his production last year had more to do with switching back to his natural position at OLB/Edge.

    AZ turned down his 10 mil 5th year option so I think he could be had for several mil less than that. However, there are teams at the top of the cap space who could outbid us like Jags, Jets, or Pats.

    Man, I miss the days when the Jets were always in cap hell. I guess their Tannenbaum stench has wore off.

  141. mf13ss says:

    I just can’t make up my mind on the top-3 WRs of this Draft. All three have something very special about them. It’s almost a ‘can’t lose’ situation, whomever we may get.

    It may come down to our preference of a boundary WR vs a slot WR, a speed demon vs a possession WR, durability vs upside, route-running vs homerun ability, blocking ability vs lack thereof, special teams ability vs not, etc, etc.

    And even with what I just said above, all three WRs check multiple boxes… yet, it feels like this class of upper-echelon WRs is subpar (at least in size) to other Drafts… maybe it’s just me.

    I can’t call it! I’d be happy with any of these three WRs.

    Waddle just might be the Swiss army knife we need, able to replace SEVERAL of our slot WRs and become our new KR/PR. What’s more, he can stretch the field on the boundary with his 4.3 speed.

    Chase is the consensus #1 WR, and he may become a GREAT boundary WR, which we need opposite DeVante. The guy is remarkable.

    Devonta Smith is just a stud, through-and-through. He’d be the chain-mover.

  142. The Flying Pig says:

    Clothesline: An Introspective Look at Laundry through the Eyes of an Ape

  143. mf13ss says:

    I’m just crazy enough to attempt to create this myself… or to just contact this gentleman to make one for me…

  144. The Flying Pig says:

    For Ken

  145. bailbondmike says:

    I prefer the improvised masks:

  146. bailbondmike says:

    Or the improvised mask/shield combo:

  147. bailbondmike says:

    M13, I am in the same boat on WR. Any of the top 3 are fine with me. Bateman might be the next one on peoples lists but not mine. He is very good but on the slow side. But then you got Kadarius Toney, Terrace Marshall, and Rondale Moore. Another I like who is not talked about much is UNC’s Dyami Brown.

    • stangerx says:

      But if all 3 are fine seems trade down is good, or actually smart.

      • mf13ss says:

        And THAT’S what I’m talking about, Stanger. Trade down just bit, get draft compensation, and land the best of the 3 WRs available. Wouldn’t be surprised if all 3 were still on the board @ R1P5 (Bengals), or even @ R1P6 (Eagles).

        Trade down a bit further (within the top-10) and most assuredly there will be one or two of them still available.

      • stangerx says:

        You guys know more about the players, but just seems common sense. If 3 WR are top 10 worthy you don’t take a WR at #3 unless there is no trade down for you. Unless one really stands out as THE generational guy…… but seems from all the talk that is not the case.

  148. stangerx says:

    I am of the opinion – and it’s a firm one – that the Watson paired with this Dolphins defense – assuming Pro Bowl cornerback Xavien Howard isn’t part of the package sent to Houston, and he very well might be – could turn Miami into a perennial playoff team for the next two to three seasons.
    — Omar

  149. New Age says:

    Mike E,

    Not trying to ruin anyone’s Friday night but this is disturbing so quickly after the election. All prices are determined by fuel prices.

    • steveccnv says:

      It is disturbing but not unexpected. Biden and Pelosi prove time and again they hate all of us.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      But you know why this is – Bc we spoke about OPECs September 2020 actions to reduce production to combat the decrease in need after COVID, and it has nothing to do with the election or who is president – why keep selling it as a consequence of the election?

  150. wyoming85 says:

    Fuck Keslowski and Hamlin!

  151. olddolphan says:

    ANY OF YOU PEOPLE out there in hockeyland watching the Rangers-Bruins game tonight??
    I am TRULY ENJOYING THE ASS-KICKING the Rangers are putting on the suddenly awful Boston Bruins. After giving up 7 goals in their previous game, the Bruins have yielded 4 more tonight after 2 periods to the home-standing Rangers, who are being urged on by the 1,000 or so fans allowed to attend. “Let’s Go Rangers” echoed through Madison Square Garden in the final minute of the second period as New York scored TWO GOALS IN 12 SECONDS!!!! And this was shortly after Boston Bad Boy Brad Marchand had taken yet another idiotic penalty!! Marchand cheap-shotted a Rangers player who promptly got up and SMILED at him as he was escorted to the penalty box.
    I’m expecting some BIG TIME BRAWLS in the 3rd period, especially if the Rangers continue to rub Boston’s nose into the ice. May Brad Marchand have an unfortunate collision with the Zamboni!!

    • olddolphan says:

      AH,YES-S-S-S!!! –New York scores two more goals early in the 3rd period, AND THE ROUT IS ON!!! —Can’t wait to read tomorrow’s Boston Globe reaction to this latest fiasco!! I tell ya, it’s almost as good as watching the Dolphins blow-out the Cheatriots in FOXBORO!!!

  152. steveccnv says:

    Lebron is such a maroon, he reminds me of David.

    “[LeBron] is phenomenal at what he’s doing, but I don’t like when people have some kind of status, they go and do politics at the same time,” Ibrahimovic said. “Do what you’re good at. Do the category you do. I play football because I’m the best at playing football.

    So Zlatan says Lebron shouldn’t do politics, and his response is:

    “I still know what I do on the floor, and obviously, I give everything to the game,” James told The Associated Press in December. “But I can make a greater impact off the floor right now, more than I can on the floor. And I want to continue to inspire people with the way I play the game of basketball. But there’s so many more things that I can do off the floor to help cultivate people, inspire people, bring people together, empower them.”

    Lebron, what you’re doing off the court is great and you should be praised for that work, but Zlatan is saying politics isn’t your thing, and it would benefit you to not get involved in something you don’t know enough about.

  153. Mike E. says:

    Richard Neer on WFAN just made a pretty good point on trading for Watson. With all the draft capital and players that it will take to to pry Deshaun Watson from the Texans, that team will resemble the Texans. It may be a little oversimplified but he’s not wrong. You’re going to have to give up great players and draft capital and by the time you’ve trimmed your roster, and surrendered all your draft capital, so great, you have your QB, but you don’t have the same talent level around that QB, and that will take time, if you even get there because now your cap is shot to shit too.

    Soooooo, as I said from the start, DON’T DO IT!!!

    • bailbondmike says:

      Yes, but then again, there are teams like the Jets who would do that.

    • steveccnv says:

      Someone here said thing. It’s also my belief, that you never give up a lot of trade capital for a player with an existing large contract or one in the last year of his contract, that you’re going to have to pay a large contract to. Tunsil trade was a perfect example.

  154. bailbondmike says:

    New Age, that graph is right on. Gas here, which the cost is usually in the bottom 1/3 in the country or about 5-10 cent more than Alabama, has gone up .50 a gallon in the last 5 weeks. My guess it will be around 3.50 a gallon here by summer.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It will dip back to the old price when the demand for crude oil increases again

      The demand will go back when the world adjusts to life after COVID shutdowns

      • New Age says:

        So, you are saying that policies that are anti-oil don’t affect prices at all? OPEC did it’s highest production cut IN HISTORY….in APRIL not September. Did nothing to prices. It’s dishonest to say Biden’s policies which hurt oil jobs in the US aren’t also affecting prices in any way. OPEC only controls 60% of world output.

        The lack of demand is what caused prices to lower as there was a glut of oil on the market and little demand. The demand is still down. The only true difference is who is in the Oval Office and the energy policies they advocate.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Yes I am suggesting that. The biggest factor in gas prices in the price of crude oil. Nothing comes close to having that effect.

        60% of the product has a huge affect on the market. What do you think would happen to the price of bottled water if 60%of the manufacturers stopped producing bottled water – The price would go up.

        Besides, the basic economic principle of supply and demand Probably means all producers are around the world are doing it’s not just opec – it’s a response to less use During COVID shutdowns. Everyone is doing it. American companies too – they just can’t coordinate and announce it or it would be illegal.

        You want to make an argument using generalizations bc it fits the narrative but the reality is if you research the leading cause of gas prices. You can’t deny that the price of crude oil is the largest factor and that a coordinated effort by the largest producer of oil on the planet to lower production to increase the price has been in place since September 2020

        Those are facts that go from A to B to C to D

        But you are jumping from A to D and are concluding that bc gas prices are escalating now it must be bc the Biden presidency caused it.

        Go for it – connect the dots. You’ll see it’s an illogical argument you are making

        I don’t even k ow what you mean by policies. But give it. Try and connect those dots. I’m all ears

      • New Age says:

        You didn’t read my argument. They had larger cuts in April that didn’t do this. You act like the market is this huge behemoth that takes months and months to react and it doesn’t. In 1973, the market prices exploded due to the Yom Kippur War. Prices skyrocketed after Iraq invaded Kuwait and after we invaded Iraq. It didn’t take 9-10 months to see it. That’s a fallacy. Disruption are felt within a week or two.

        You act like OPEC is the only reason the market moves. We are the largest supplier in the world. Things we do adjust the market as well. When Biden signals that American and Canadian oil is going to be reduced with his actions against Keystone, it’s pretty obvious that will affect the market. That’s the #1 supplier and the #4 supplier in the world and that isn’t going to affect prices? C’mon! Seriously!?? You know this is true so why even argue against it?

  155. bailbondmike says:

    Football Standouts with Miami Ties – Dolphins’ Tua Tagovailoa and FOX NFL Analyst Jonathan Vilma – to Serve as Honorary Officials for Dixie Vodka 400.

    Tagovailoa to Give Command for Drivers to Start Engines, While Vilma is Set to Wave Green Flag for Race at Homestead-Miami Speedway this Sunday, Feb. 28, at 3:30 p.m. ET on FOX.

  156. bailbondmike says:

    Fuck Keslowski and Hamlin!
    Wyoming, Why? What happened?

  157. bailbondmike says:

    If Devon Godchaux does not get resigned for whatever reason, there are 2 free agent DT’s who Flores is familiar with that we could sign, both from the Pats. NT Lawrence Guy and DT Adam Butler. Butler is a rotation player, not many starts but has 10 sacks over the last 2 seasons mainly as a rotational backup. Neither, IMO, would cost much and probably the same as it would to resign Godchaux.

  158. bailbondmike says:

    Wake up y’all, I feel like David talking to myself about the stock market!!

  159. steveccnv says:

    Pig, you said recently, that you’re OK with social media platforms not allowing certain people to post.

    Are you then OK with businesses not giving service to people for whatever reason?

    • New Age says:

      I find them to be propaganda machines of the Ministry of Truth. Section 230 should have been revoked to allow some accountability to these companies. It’s telling when you aren’t able to defend your beliefs and policies without silencing other arguments.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Not for discriminatory reasons

      Not an entire class of people
      I’m not okay with social media banning by people for the same reason I’m not okay with a baker refusing to serve gay people

      I know you guys are desperately trying to find some contradiction but there’s. But there’s. big difference from banning people bc they belong to protected class of people and banning people bc they violate your nondiscrimintory rules

      • steveccnv says:

        Really? Protected class of people?

        That’s just another made up by the left BS phrase.

        Discrimination is Discrimination, you don’t get to decide who gets discriminated.

        There’s your contradiction right there in the nondiscrimintory rules. It’s been proven over and over the people banned aren’t being banned for breaking nondiscrimintory rules.

        You people just can’t help yourself, deny, deny…

      • The Flying Pig says:

        That’s not made up

        It’s been the law since 1964. Spend some time reading the civil rights act of 1964

        That the basis of what discrimination is: different treatment of different classes of people based on their class.

        not different treatment bc of their conduct.

        It’s okay to treat people differently bc of their conduct. It’s not okay to treat them different bc of who they are

        You are desperate to believe in double standards that don’t exist.

        I have a problem with discrimination. I do not have a problem with people who break the rules facing consequences. There is no contradiction here and if you don’t recognize that, it’s your own morale compass that’s off, not mine.

  160. steveccnv says:

    Is SI reading us on trading down multiple times in the 1st or is it just what makes sense?

  161. steveccnv says:

    Tua is getting zero respect. I wouldn’t want it any other way.

    It motivates him to get better and it makes other teams think you may take a QB, which may motivate them to trade up to 3. It also keeps teams behind you, like last year, unsure of what you’re going to do.

  162. steveccnv says:

    Bill Maher of all people said, to SJWs about cancel culture, when what you’re saying sounds like an Onion headline just stop

  163. The Flying Pig says:

    You’ll get sued if section 230 is removed

    If there is no section 230, and Twitter gets sued, so will all the social media accounts affiliated with defamatory statements

    Section 230 is the only thing that stops it now.
    Every conservative supporter who pushes for the end of 230 puts themselves in the line of fire when they push for it.

    • stangerx says:

      Sec 230 just says you can’t get sued for what people post on your site. Find it ironic that the same people who want that done away with also vehemently against people being banned for hate speech and such, which could get the internet places sued if Sec 230 was repealed.

      But those are the positions that were endorsed up top. How else would anyone know what Sec 230 is?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Thats exactly what I mean

        It’s impossible for the tucker Carlsons, tomi lahrens, Ben Shapiros, Candace Owens and Lou Dobbs to survive without 230. Twitter will have no choice but to ban them if they get them sued for defamation. Fox already parted ways with dobbs after a defamation lawsuit.

        Not only that but they will be named as 3rd parties in all those suits and so can any person posting on those platforms (even a retweet)

        Once you open the door to media platforms being sued, you give people financial incentives to bring those suits – everyone is fucked of that happens. Not just The platforms

      • CavalierKong says:

        Hell yeah, let’s do it.

        For entirely non-political reasons, I think it would be great if the Twitters and the Facebooks of the world got a complete reboot and had to reimagine/ reinvent themselves and the way we use them, because what we have now is pure garbage.

      • stangerx says:

        Cav — be careful what you wish for. If Sec 230 wasn’t there I can think of about 3 dozen suits against our beloved admins. Might be a better way, but cold turkey on that isn’t it.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I think our admins would be on the smart end of the spectrum when it comes to protecting themselves on Twitter, etc if protections were removed.

        I would sign off in a heartbeat for destroying the major public platforms in favor of rebuilding them in a reimagined way. Any way of doing that is going to be rough.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Now get off my lawn, lol.

      • stangerx says:

        Cav — I’m saying they could get sued for what happens on this board….. say David’s financial advice if it goes bad.

        Now I’ll get off your lawn…. OK if I admire the beautiful clothesline poles first? 🙂

      • CavalierKong says:

        Stang, ok, a reimagining would include rebuilding protections, in my mind particularly for the smaller, user run platforms. Obviously I’m talking very generally and have no idea what it would look like, but I am in favor of doing something.

        In order to dismantle the way these large public platforms operate, and the pure garbage they have become, it’s going to include some ‘growing pains’ for everyone.

        LOL, I enjoyed my little soliloquy on clotheslines, and I would buy a ticket to see Piggy’s Introspective on the subject. 🙂

    • stangerx says:

      See the problem, but not the solution. Just like with my wife’s attitude at times. And heck yeah loved your rhapsody on clotheslines. A bard in you had never seen before.

  164. stangerx says:

    Some history of trading up to the 3 spot — has to get you thinking.
    2018 — To move up three spots to #3, the Jets gave the Colts two second-round picks that year (the 37th and 49th overall selections) along with a second-round pick in 2019. Jets take Darnold.

    2000 — The Washington Redskins give up the 12th and 24th overall picks to the San Francisco 49ers for the third pick and take offensive lineman Chris Samuels.

    1997 — The Seattle Seahawks give up the 11th pick along with picks in the second, third and fourth rounds to the Atlanta Falcons for the third pick, which they use to take cornerback Shawn Springs, and a third-round pick.

    1990 — The Seattle Seahawks give up the eighth and 10th overall picks, along with the 64th and 101st overall selection to the New England Patriots for the third pick, which they use to take DT Cortez Kennedy, and a second-round selection.

  165. Ken says:

    If I could be sued for something someone says on this blog well fuck that I am out of here

    • stangerx says:

      Doesn’t mention Hulk by name, but Donald J Trump is after you.
      “Twitter is doing nothing about all of the lies & propaganda being put out by China or the Radical Left Democrat Party. They have targeted Republicans, Conservatives & the President of the United States. Section 230 should be revoked by Congress. Until then, it will be regulated!”

  166. Ken says:

    The social media platforms are private entities they can allow or not allow whatever they want on their platform

    • The Flying Pig says:

      The notion that right wing talking heads are floating is that bc they ban people like Trump, the govt should remove 230 protections

      230 is the new conservative talking point

      • stangerx says:

        And one has nothing to do with the other. Just an attack point cause without that liability exception they pretty much can’t work.

  167. New Age says:


    We could easily amend Section 230 or have certain companies have the protections removed. Acting like Facebook, Twitter, and other megaliths are anything like this site or many others is ludicrous. As you have said, they have went far past their original goals and are primarily used as Ad hubs and propaganda fronts for all kinds of bad actors.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m out talking about this site or sites like this. I’m talking about everyone using Twitter, Facebook or any of those forums

      You expose users of those megaliths to the same liability as Twitter or Facebook by removing 230 protections

      It’s always been bad idea

      230 does not exist solely protect Twitter or Facebook, it’s protects all its users too

      If you remove it you open the floodgates to defamation suits against Twitter or Facebook
      Then the person who actually said the comment or even retweeted is joined to the suit
      Then Twitter or Facebook argues that the culpable party is that user
      And then the 50 millions dollar lawsuit that was against Twitter becomes the problem of the guy who retweeted something on Twitter

    • stangerx says:

      Trump’s demand was “Section 230 should be revoked by Congress.” And now it is the stance of many of his followers. And, ludicrous or not, that includes the protections for this site. Just how the law would work after.

      Said above that I see the problem, but what is your “easily amend” to Section 230? Just don’t see it. We’re talking about platforms being sued for what their users post with a click. You want them all to come with pre-post moderation?

  168. pheloniusphish says:


  169. The Flying Pig says:

    New age I didn’t miss your argument

    The reason opec haulted production was to have this effect. They openly admit to it.

    Your are in plausible deny about it. COVID crushed the oil industry. People stop traveling for starters. OPECs production hault is one of many similar actions that caused the price of crude oil to go up. Whether it’s opec in an American company they have the same concern, there isn’t the demand there used to be bc of COVID and even when American companies try to increase production they don’t have the same impact as OPEC.

    If you don’t want to remain in plausible denial about it, here are some links





    This article even says the election helped create a boom – but it’s very short term


    It is not uncommon for the oil rich countries of the world to manipulate the market

    And this article sheds some light on the difference between OPEC, Russian and our own domestic producers – in one sentence, OPEC operates like a cartel, which is why it’s hard for us companies to combat their actions even when we increase production.


    • The Flying Pig says:

      It also worth mentioning, that getting away from oil dependency also causes opec to act out. They were in the middle of a price war with Russia when COVID happened

      So yeah clean energy policies will cause a reaction

      But what we are experiencing now is unique to COVID

    • The Flying Pig says:

      And FYI the phase of the keystone pipeline that was stopped by biden hasn’t been in construction since 2015 so it’s sort of unlikely that it caused gas prices to increase in 2021…

      • steveccnv says:

        So why did thousands lose their jobs?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Thousands didn’t lose their jobs

        Anyone who would have been working on that was a contractor and those contracts were just given out in November 2020


        In other words, it wasn’t actually under construction since 2015 all Biden did was stop the construction

        When the govt earmarks money for one project and then stops the project, they move it to another project

        That money is just going to go to another infrastructure project, or many, which will employ as many people as the pipeline would have

  170. stangerx says:

    Bruce Springsteen got charged with a DWI but the charges were dismissed.

    Don Jr’s tweet on that was ““I’d say it’s #WhitePrivilege but we all know it’s really #LiberalPrivilege,”

    The Boss’ BAC was 0.02, well below New Jersey’s 0.08 (in the news reports on the dismal). Did Don Jr not know or did he not care cause the Boss didn’t support his Dad? It’s like facts don’t matter these days.

    • steveccnv says:

      You don’t know what happened, that .02 is likely BS. I’ve never heard of anyone getting arrested for that before.

      Now the side that never had any facts on their side wants to talk about facts

      • The Flying Pig says:

        We know exactly what happened bc there is a court record of it

        The .02 is the police (a park ranger) reading. It’s not disputed by the police so I don’t know why you are disputing it other than the usual Trump named attached to it. The .02 reading is what the police put into evidence. It’s the only evidence they had to support a dui

        In NJ you can be taken into custody on the spot whether you fail a breathalyzer or not – this attorney explains why that happens


        In this case the police officer/ park ranger who observed him drinking believed he was inebriated. Springsteen refused the breathalyzer leading to be taken into custody. The .02 reading is the breathalyzer from the station not one that was done on the spot.

        Springsteen was fined $540. That’s clearly not a dui guilty finding – that’s bc he plead guilty to consuming alcohol in the park (it was a park)

        It’s not white privilege or liberal privledge whatever that is. It just simply wasn’t a DUI.

        Don Jr was probably high as a kite when he wrote that tweet anyway

  171. bailbondmike says:

    It’s like facts don’t matter these days.
    The leftist media established that 4-5 years ago.

  172. Tim Knight says:

    You know how many things we use daily that is made with petroleum? We wouldn’t be on this blog without it.

  173. bookman11 says:

    Lol, great post Phelon!!

  174. steveccnv says:

    Is it OK for Pelosi and Schumer to jack up the covid relief bill with 15% going to Americans and te rest going to their corrupt, kickback, projects?

  175. Tim Knight says:

    Don Lemon the gay black racist who fucks a white guy. You can’t make this stuff up. LOL

  176. Mike E. says:

    Phelon – I could kiss you for posting that. That was fucking awesome! I rant like that all the time but it’s so much more effective when he does it. I talk to my wife about shit like this so often. Sometimes she even agrees with me. That was beautiful. Thank you!

    • bookman11 says:

      Exactly Mike! That is a great video. All this cancel shit, PC correctness, and hollow corporate gestures is really sickening and amounts to affecting nothing!!

      • Mike E. says:

        Everyone is trying to seem so altruistic these days, I’m purer and lest racist than you are! These companies that do that shit are just self promoting their righteousness of nothing. Stop trying to “seem” better, just be normal like that dude says.

      • bookman11 says:

        I am sooooo tired of these commercials forcing mixed couples, gay couples, BLM references, it is pathetic. It doesn’t accomplish anything. It doesn’t change anyone’s thinking.

  177. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Supposedly “The Boss” wasn’t asked to do the breathalyzer test until a few hours after he was brought in. That makes a huge difference. Do you think Trump is innocent? He won two impeachment trials. lol

    Springsteen can go fuck himself. Any fucktard that threatened to leave this country because of who was President doesn’t deserve to be a citizen of this great country.

    • bookman11 says:

      Agree again! Mikey on a roll! ….at least IMO, lol

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He didn’t do the breathalyzer but alcohol only leaves the system at .015 an hour

      He had to go from .08 to .02
      That’s 4 hours

      I don’t buy that explanation at all

    • stangerx says:

      Couldn’t care less about his politics. Figure his right to say what he wants. Same goes for Don Jr….. but reserve the right to hit on him for telling lies and respect your right to hit on the Boss for his comments, which don’t like either.

  178. Tim Knight says:

    So Mr. Potato Head is going gender neutral. LOL

    What a fucked up society we live in. SMH

    • bookman11 says:

      They clarified by saying that the brand is going to be Potato Head, but the individual characters will keep their prefixes, like Mr, and Mrs. i agree with you though, it is getting ridiculous

    • Mike E. says:

      It’s infuriating! WHY?????? Stop trying so hard!!! Just let people decide for themselves and stop making these ludicrous decisions for everyone else.

  179. Mike E. says:

    Bookman – Same here. If anything, it’s going to make me racist/not tolerant to buck against having this shit force fed to me every single day. It really does irritate me to the point where I’m angry at transgender girls who were once boys that now compete against REAL girls. That outrageous, and I honestly don’t give a crap about the .0000000000001% that are offended if they can’t compete but it’s a fucking perversion of the sport. There are genetic reasons why women don’t compete against men and to allow that to happen makes my blood boil. Who exactly are they trying to satisfy by doing this?

    • Tim Knight says:

      They’re not following “the science” of biology. Isn’t that ironic? 😉

      A mother panda bear could have a female baby panda and some fucktard will say are you sure it’s a female? Shut the fuck up you twit, it’s got a panda cunt you ignorant dope!!!!

    • bookman11 says:

      I know, it is almost beyond comprehension, like dating a cow or something. Male and Female ARE different, God created us that way. Why do we have to pretend that is not true?

  180. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Springsteen sucks anyway, I never liked him. I like Clarence Clemons the saxophone player. So you think the cops pulled him over for nothing. OK, gotcha.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I think the report speaks for itself. The park ranger (it wasn’t a cop) pulled him over after observing him drink. He saw him drink. It was at a park.

      His own report said that

      And yeah, it’s not hard to beleive it wasn’t justified to pull him over – you just said “fuck him” based on something he said. That’s probably exactly what the park ranger thought too.

      There is no way .06 of alcohol leaves the body during a drive to a station. That’s ridiculous to believe.

      There’s a record of him being acquitted from dui. The park ranger was already proven wrong. It’s not ambiguous or undecided.

      You just don’t like him bc of what he said. Is it so hard to beleive the park ranger thought the same thing?

  181. bookman11 says:

    I was just agreeing with Mike that Springsteen does not deserve to be a citizen and should just leave the country, I could give a shit about his DUI.

  182. Tim Knight says:

    Biology is physically factual, Psychology is theoretical speculation. If I identity myself as being a 6-4 320 lb. football lineman, does it make it a factual truth? Nope! Because I’m none of those things. But if I feel that I am, therefore I am. Yeah okay. By the way I wish I was a dolphin but I’m not that either. LOL

  183. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – are you saying that Springsteen was profiled? Imagine that? I thought cops only profiled black guys

  184. bookman11 says:

    Born in the USA should be “canceled”, he uses the term “yellow man”….. nope, it doesn’t matter the context, it MUST be eliminated because it could be offensive to someone

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s a great example. And Native Americans referred to white people as pale face. I guess we all need to go to hell. LOL

      Another thing is what does native mean? What is the time period that makes you native? There was a period in time where no humans were native to North America. They were nomads from Asia who settled in North America.

      Can we all stop and realize that all humans, “all of us” are a part of evolution? At every point in time of our existence.

  185. stangerx says:

    Thought the Boss was a treasured icon in New Jersey, but I guess not. Learn something new every day. In any event, his BAC wasn’t enough for a DWI unless the cops put the fix in….. but maybe I’m right least some cops/rangers would do that for Springsteen in NJ and I’m right after all.

  186. New Age says:


    1. From your own articles, Covid destroyed demand ands lowered prices. Covid is still here and demand hasn’t increased yet.
    2. Production cuts hurt OPEC so they can’t do it for long. It’s the primary revenue system for all these countries. Yet, they still did two major production cuts in April 2020 and Sept 2020. We didn’t see any price changes during that time, did we? Not really
    3. Rising US production lowers our prices and helps offset OPEC pricing schemes. As your article shows, 2021 production is expected to go down. We also subsidize the shale industry by a large amount and Trump pushed that, Biden won’t. Energy independence is always better than the other option.
    4. Prices were much lower in 2018, 2017,2016. There was no Covid, no production glut, no production cut, nada. What’s the deal with those prices being lower? Your own article says crude was at $40 in October, 43 in November and should rise to $51 in 2021. It’s $62 today. That’s far above expected rate and a HUGE increase since…you guessed it, the election.

    Here’s an article for you on why the stock market is betting on $100 oil under Biden. It’s from one of the sites you linked. Read closely about OPEC no longer considers US shale a threat and Delaware basin closes fracking. Tell me again about government not affecting oil prices.

    You got any articles about the projects that took the place of Keystone XL? I just wanted to see those jobs I was hearing about.

  187. mf13ss says:

    Sorry to interrupt the regularly scheduled political rants (LOL), but I saw this and just HAD to share. Y’all have seen the plays already, but Gesicki truly is something special…

  188. mf13ss says:

    Take this for whatever it may be worth. I don’t know who this Jason McIntyre is (never heard of him), but he posted this earlier…

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