What will the 2021 Miami Dolphins Special Teams look like?

Gone is P Matt Haack. The Dolphins signed the former Carolina Panthers punter Michael Palardy instead of re-signing the steady Matt Haack. Palardy has a higher average per punt than Haack at 46.0 compared to the 44.7 Haack had as Dolphins punter. The important guy who is returning is All Pro kicker Jason Sanders. Sanders had a fantastic season converting 36 of 39 FG tries. His kickoffs were nearly always touchbacks. MIchael Palardy has a big leg so we’ll see if we improve our field position with him booming the ball.

Jakeem Grant shared return duties last year with rookies WR Malcolm Perry and DB Noah Igbinoghene. Grant was electric, but you held your breath until he actually cradled the ball when receiving the punt or kickoff. This year I believe Jaylen Waddle will be incorporated into the game and may even make Jakeem Grant expendable. Time will tell on that one. Waddle is so explosive in his own right and I would imagine he’s a lot more sure handed than Grant has been. Still, Jakeem Grant may stick here just because of his electric punt return ability, he averaged 11.4 yards on his punt returns last season. I do believe Waddle will challenge here and Malcolm Perry may also.

Blake Ferguson returns as the long snapper after a fine rookie season. I don’t recall any Ferguson miscues last season so I’ll leave it that he did his job well. The big questions going forward is can Jason Sanders follow up hos All Pro season with another? Who will be the primary return man and if it’s rookie Jaylen Waddle, does Jakeem Grant make the cut? Also, if Jaylen Waddle is the primary return man, do they scale back his work at WR? It’s a lot to ask from a rookie because they have double work, but I would hope Waddle is up to task. Personally, I hope Waddle is part of our return game, I can’t wait to see that. Will new punter Michael Palardy help our field position battle? Haack was unspectacular last season but I thought he did a good job here. Obviously the Dolphins were looking for better and hopefully that’s what we get from Palardy.

The Xavien Howard holdout may affect DB Noah Igbinoghene the most. If he’s the guy that will be counted on to replace Howard, I’d almost guarantee his days as a return man are done for at least this season. He will be working hard to be up to snuff filling some tremendous shoes if the Dolphins can’t work things out with Xavien Howard. This is a huge issue to keep an eye on. You don’t replace 10 INT’s and in general shut down coverage easily and we all saw Iggy struggle last season. I don’t doubt Iggy will be better, but it’s a lot to step in for arguably one of the best corners in the NFL. We’ll see what happens on that front.

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    • D says:

      I’m not worried about the Howard situation. We can bounce back either way and if not we seem to have a FO that will go out and get us what we need to fix it. I prefer to keep him but i also don’t want him to start the dominos falling and we wind up losing the team trying to keep him.

      • Mike E. says:

        I’m worried. It can significantly change our defense if he’s gone. It’s not always so easy to just find a replacement guy this late in the game.

      • Ken says:

        Losing the best defensive player in football would be a serious blow to this team but I don’t think it’s going to happen

      • D says:

        I dont discounts his importance, but if you go nuts trying to keep him you could start the process of losing others and you might lose more trying to keep him which overall would be worse. The team knows his values, they wont let him leave unless it would be better for the team than giving into to whatever he wants to keep him.

  1. Ken says:

    Sanders for MVP

  2. Mike E. says:

    D – I agree with you as far as I don’t want us to let players run the team. It’s a tough line to tread because the NFL is so unique with the way contracts are treated. They’re basically disposable, which means when a player has some leverage, I get why they want to use that. X figures if they frontload my contract now, at least I get what I’m worth now and I’ll worry about the rest when we get there. In some ways, it works out well for the team too because if they can pay him while he’s worth the money, maybe they can make it easier to let him go later on w/o penalty to the teams cap.

  3. steveccnv says:


  4. steveccnv says:

    Waddle is the key, if he’s the PR we won’t miss a beat, when Grant is gone

  5. steveccnv says:

    If Hollins stays he’ll be a gunner, otherwise we may see Holland and/or Brandon Jones or someone else depending on what WRs we keep

  6. steveccnv says:

    Any surprise Sanders had a great year? Ferguson was steady to great on FGs, and they laughed, when he was drafted.

    Who’s laughing now

  7. steveccnv says:

    That’s all I got at the moment for STs

  8. D says:

    Weeeee hurricane season has started lol. Ready to play the Me, Wyoming, or BBM game? Right now this one looks like a Me lol

  9. Rockphin says:

    Do we really believe that we will have the #6 pick returning punts? IDTS

  10. bailbondmike says:

    Steve, thanks for catching the Cozumel/Mexico deal. When I said Mexico, I was thinking back when I was in San Diego for a month and went to Tijuana a couple times. lol

    • steveccnv says:

      Lol, been to Cozumel 3 times the last to go diving.

      Got certified in Lake Tahoe in the snow in December, then went to Cancun the following February and did a dive, then Cozumel a couple days later

      • steveccnv says:

        Haven’t dove since. Wanted to on the Great Barrier reef, but didn’t have the time, just snorkeled

  11. stangerx says:

    “Grant was electric, but he you held your breath until he actually cradled the ball when receiving the punt or kickoff.”

    Great line Mike E and really sums it up. Unfortunately goes for his pass catching as well. But oh man is he a joy to watch in once the ball is secure. Not sure that is enough though. To keep him would have to keep an extra (7th) WR to my mind.

  12. stangerx says:

    Could you see Vince Lombardi telling his players to do this in their month off before camp? Flores might be a real modern type of coach, and one who attracts free agents. Word gets around.

    “My message to the players is to go on vacation, to take this time to recharge, get some rest; spend time with their families – friends, families, loved ones. I think you need that balance in your life, so that was my message to these guys this morning; but at the same time, keep themselves in some type of condition, train.”

    “Obviously this is what they love to do and if they want to be at the top of their game come training camp, they’re going to have to train. But I think it’s a good time for them to get away and recharge and come back refreshed with a lot of energy and ready to go.”

    • steveccnv says:

      If you don’t stay in shape you’ll die in a Miami training camp, so like in high school, when I could stay up as long as I wanted, but…had to get up for school in the morning

      Pay me now or pay me later

      • stangerx says:

        Part that got me was “keep themselves in some type of condition.” Could have been “show up in shape or you will die.” But it wasn’t.

  13. Randy says:

    The X situation doesn’t worry me much. Stay or go, I think Flores has been establishing a really good system. It is most certainly reliant on very good coverage….so having great DBs is big. But, I think Iggy has a chance to be pretty solid if not great. And, I don’t think we’ll be getting 2-4 more years of that sort of performance from X. I think he’ll come back to Earth next year. He’ll still be a very good CB, but chances are he just had his career year last year. I hope they keep him….and it would suck to lose him….but I’m not too worried about it. It’s not like these guys are shy about trading away talent if they think it will benefit the team. They have been upgrading the DB corp pretty consistently.

    • Ken says:

      I think you can expect at least 2 more years of high performance from X. It’s not like last year was an aberration he has been playing at a high level over several years

      • stangerx says:

        Same time chances are other teams think that as well. Gotta balance with what we could get. He’s backed up by a first round pick.

  14. stangerx says:

    Something to know if comes into play with X:

    “The 2020 labor deal imposes fines in the amount of $50,000 per day on training-camp holdouts, and for players operating under their second contract, the fines cannot be waived.”

  15. Randy says:

    I want to keep him. I agree he’s a very good player. I just think given his injury history, his relative age, his penchant to take risks a little and just the law of averages is that he will be come back to Earth. I think teams will adjust too. Having 2, or 3 even, very good CBs is the real key, but I suspect teams will play X…and our defensive backfield…a little different this year.
    Last year was by far his best year. 22 INTs total and 10 last year. 55 total PD and 20 last year. He has been good…no doubt…but last year was way better than any other. And, only 2 complete seasons out of 5. Absolutely keep him if you can…I’m just not sweating it. Flores will figure it out.

    • steveccnv says:

      Pretty much agree, but only think he comes back to earth, if they don’t throw his way or injury

    • Mike E. says:

      He did have his best year last year, but our defense overall was better last year too, and I expect it to take a step forward this year too. That can only help X be as good as last season. Odd are he wouldn’t have as many INT’s because teams will probably avoid him more often and try other weaknesses, but it’s still a better defense with him opposite Jones.

  16. Randy says:

    10 INTs isn’t done very often. Wasn’t X the first to do it in, like, a decade? It’s not all about the INTs, of course, but he ain’t gonna be getting 10 every year for the next 4 years. I’ll bet anybody on that. Lol
    I’m not arguing that he’s a really good player. I was just saying I’m not getting worried about losing him…for a number of reasons. Commenting on the situation more than on X.
    X is best in off coverage. He is also a beast on deep throws. There are things teams can do to adjust…..or just keep throwing at him more than Jones. Also, I’m hoping for a better and quicker pass rush this season…which should means shorter, quicker passes and fewer deep passes….where X excels.

  17. Ken says:

    Randy says:
    June 18, 2021 at 2:30 pm (Edit)
    Having 2, or 3 even, very good CBs is the real key, but I suspect teams will play X…and our defensive backfield…a little different this year.We
    I disagree. Per Solomon Wilcotts who I agree with on this. The key to X’s success is that Miami plays man bump and run. X is always lined on the other teams no. 1 WR in one on one so teams will continue to throw at X because you always go to your number 1 WR unless you double cover him which Miami doesn’t do. In essence the key to X’s success is that he is just that good at taking away the other teams number 1 WR all by himself

    • steveccnv says:

      Nuke didn’t get a pass thrown his way in the first half, then they started throwing his way and he got 3 bad PIs (piss is right)

      • steveccnv says:

        He will get some thrown his way, they may be more careful and less often.

        He did get some ints on ducks thrown to other WRs.

        Think Iggy has similar hands, but won’t have the position

      • Ken says:

        As long as he keeps lining up on number 1 they will continue to throw his way which leads to int opportunities and that was Wilcotts point

  18. Randy says:

    Man coverage yes but not press man. I am just going by what I felt I saw last year, but it sure looked like X was playing more off coverage and not lining up on the LOS. I’ll just go with I’m wrong on that because I have no idea what the stats say. X is very good no matter how you slice it!

    • Ken says:

      We play press. Sometimes X looks like he is off because he is baiting aQB to throw his way. He has such great closing speed to the ball then when you think your guy is open he really isn’t

      • CavalierKong says:

        That is not how press coverage works. The whole point of press is to disrupt the route, usually with a jam. If he’s off the receiver, it’s not press coverage.

  19. New Age says:

    I completely agree with Randy. X is coming back down to earth but I still expect out D to be top 5.

  20. steveccnv says:

    Could see X having a better year, but not without a new contract

    He saved our ass plenty of times with ints

    Having more pressure would also create the ints, with less time to cover

    If the O gets rolling our opponents will be more likely to take chances too

    Lots of factors go into it, and why it’s a team sport

    • stangerx says:

      Can’t see X having a better year as far as more INTs. Could see him having a better year cause his side of the field is a no throw zone.

  21. stangerx says:

    In the past some people have taken jabs at Byron Jones for not having the year he should have. But if he was that bad why were other teams throwing at X enough to get all those INTs? Unless missed it, not like one of them was matching up with the other team’s Alpha wideout each week like Revis used to do.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Jones doesn’t get a lot of picks but he’s a blanket in coverage despite giving up a few plays last year he pretty much shuts his man out all day long it’s why we paid him so much to come here.

      • stangerx says:

        So then X should send Jones a Harry & David gift basket after he signs his next contract. And pretty sure there will be one…. Q is with what team.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I think things will get worked out with X but he indeed owes Jones some gratitude for last year. Jones going into last year and previously was a better known commodity throughout the league. X saw more balls come his way in large part because the QB a lot of times had to throw it somewhere so pick your poison. Jones blankets his man so it’s harder to throw his way but X is a beast closer and makes QB decisions look much worse.

  22. son of a son of a shula says:

    When she sings “killing me softly” you replace that with – Solomon Kindley

    Solomon Kindley with his song,
    Solomon Kindley with his song
    Telling my whole life with his song
    Solomon Kindley with his song


  23. son of a son of a shula says:

    X baits the QB, he really is a master baiter

  24. CavalierKong says:

    I’d be curious to see the numbers on how often X was on the #1 receiver. I know Jones also covered the #1 guy a lot as well, and I remember more than once thinking to myself “why the heck don’t we have X on him” when Jones would get roasted.

    Memory is funny though. That might stick out in my memory, but the numbers could easily still say X had the #1 the majority of the time.

  25. son of a son of a shula says:

    (Thinking maybe start the weekend off with an lol from the guys maybe. Couple beers get some dinner, relax and chill. Got a couple of tunes loaded up for later, some good shit, but instead I get harangued by a sordid mob, it’s ok)

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Wouldn’t have said anything if ya just posted the song , without the gay remake 😊

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I thought that fucked up comma you put in there was a spot on my phone, I kept scratching at it lol
        But anyway I wouldn’t be posting that song ordinarily just that
        Guess I love some Mount Kindley there I said it. Love that he wears 66.

  26. CavalierKong says:

    X is a player who has a knack for the ball, reminds me of Ed Reed. He gambles and baits, which is coupled with excellent hands and talent. I can’t see him topping last year, but I can see 6-8 INTs along with low (good) overall numbers in passes thrown his way.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      I’m with ya , happy to have him but think could adapt well with who we brung

      • CavalierKong says:

        I hope we can reach an agreement, but I don’t think the team is going to pay him 21+ mil a year, so it may just depend on what exactly Howard wants. I think we’ll be fine if we have to trade him. We are loaded at the position.

        But you can’t teach that ‘knack’ for the ball, and X has that in spades. 11 times last year, X created an extra possession for us. I’m hoping he’ll accept a rework that makes him the highest paid on the team at 17 mil or so.

  27. manitobafinfan says:

    And with a QB on a rookie contract, if ya wanna up his pay we okay this and next year fer sure

  28. D says:

    All our DB’s play a combination of press-man, off man, press-zone (though not as frequent) and zone. X plays them all pretty well because he has good closing speed, good physical build, and is pretty football smart. He is a very well rounded CB. He does tend to get worked by some of the bigger receivers, because he is physical but i think not quite as physical as some of the receivers out there, Julio Jones for one stands out to me. So press is a strong suit still but maybe weakest of all his abilities and will probably begin to become a liability with the injuries and just age creeping up ton him

    • D says:

      One option for him eventually would be to swap to FS and let his liability kinda not hold him back. He is smart enough about playing the field, he should be able to transition to that later in his career.

  29. manitobafinfan says:

    Son : just BB. And yeah 66 is a good # , makes him appear even larger 👍

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      You’re probably too young to remember Larry Little lol

      • manitobafinfan says:

        I know the name and pretty sure we are same age , but at the time he was playing I wasn’t paying too much attention to OL

  30. stangerx says:

    No one wants to talk about it, but what is X worth in a trade? I’m thinking a first and a second, but that’s just off the top of my head.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I can’t let myself go there but it should be 2 firsts

    • CavalierKong says:

      I’d say a 1st and a 2nd is the starting point. Frankly, I think it should be two 1sts. Anything less would be uncivilized.

      • stangerx says:

        What is rarely talked about is what team? A 1st and 2nd from the Jets is a lot different than from the Chiefs.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I would never trade him to a rival especially in the division, but I understand the point you’re making. Honestly, I doubt we really look at the ‘likely’ position of the picks unless we have a bunch of suitors- just my gut, based on absolutely nothing, lol.

        But if it’s the Bucs or the Lions offering similar comp, then obviously you go with the Lions.

  31. son of a son of a shula says:

    Doggy you can come out from under the couch now that bully is gone.

    Lol, thinks he’ll whoop the dogs ass lol good luck

    • stangerx says:

      Just a virtual world after all. In the past used to get a chuckle out of people talking about how they were gonna beat the shiot out of ORob.

  32. Marinofan13 says:

    Ken says:
    June 18, 2021 at 7:55 am
    So M13 is kind of like Doogie Howser?
    LOL, not sure I’d go for the Doogie comparison, but life comes at ya fast: I got caught up by sports, girls, music, and partying. By the time I graduated from high school, my GPA was below the standards of John Hopkins… I funked around badly in my high school years and fell apart from a broken heart (my first girlfriend).

    I had to ‘settle’ for Penn State, which is still a good college, but I lost the chance to become somebody very special in science. Yes… I have regrets, but it is what it is, man.

    Love is a very potent emotion, and I didn’t know how to deal with it at the time… I turned to drinking (under peer-pressure), to heal my broken heart.

    Teachable moment: ALWAYS be there for your kids (my parents were going through an ugly divorce at the time), teach them that love bites (Def Leopard reference), but life goes on, and that turning to drugs or alcohol is NEVER the answer after heart-break… and tomorrow brings a brighter day with another lover who was greater than the last.

    I have spoken.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      This is probably the first time in my 15 years of blogging I’ve really explained some of my past. I hope y’all appreciate it.

    • stangerx says:

      So when Johns Hopkins was recruiting you in 7th grade it was about we want you to come here 5 years from now? Ken said Doogie Howser, I was thinking Young Sheldon.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Exactly, Stanger. By the way, your comments were most complimentary… thank you, sir.

        Doogie? Young Sheldon? Love ’em both, but nah… I’d say more like young Spock.

      • stangerx says:

        Still pretty cool, but you understand why our minds went that way. And Penn State is a cool place. Went to a wedding there once…. night before was at the Rathskeller.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Yessir, I understand why your minds went that way, indeed. I just wasn’t as mentally disciplined as Doogie and Young Sheldon. And certainly not as disciplined as Young Spock, either, but I’m uber-logical by nature… just like a Vulcan.

        It’s VERY important for today’s children to have mental discipline… AND, the right to think freely. Difficult balancing act for such impressionable beings.

        Always remember, I was YODA on the SS blogs… and most of y’all appreciated the knowledge I dropped. 😉

      • stangerx says:

        Not sure how many caught it, but I knew you were Yoda before pretty much everyone. Far as I know first time you have admitted it…. and have dangled it out there more than a few times.

  33. Marinofan13 says:

  34. It’s been 22 years since Dan Marino retired from football and in that time, the Miami Dolphins still haven’t found anyone to replace their former star quarterback. Since Marino’s retirement, the Dolphins have churned through a total of 22 quarterbacks

    • stangerx says:

      No doubt it has been a struggle. Hopefully we’ll be set with Tua…… even if comparing him to Marino is unfair.

  35. Marinofan13 says:

  36. Tim Knight says:

    Good write, Mike!

    X did have 7 INTs in 2018 so it’s not like 10 picks last year was some sort of aberration. This is a general comment, not directed at you, Mike.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I want to be clear with ya, Tim… you and I are on the EXACT same page regarding X. I made a comment the other day that in Boyer’s Defense (and when in zone-coverage), X can become even better as a BALLHAWK!

      That was NOT to dismiss X’s skills in man-to-man, prior to Boyer coming aboard. Dude has been incredible since day one, and you and I both acknowledge as much.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah he had a ho hum rookie season with injuries playing in just 7 games and no picks. Then had 4 in 2017, 7 in 2018, only 1 in 2019 playing in just 5 games due to injury and then played all 16 games last year with 10 picks.

        I don’t think you need to make yourself clear, I think we all know X is a top corner because he is. 🙂

  37. CavalierKong says:


    I guess we should all start listening to what David is saying. This guy’s a trillionaire already, lol

  38. son of a son of a shula says:

    Quick poll, please indulge me

    What’s the area between the balls and the asshole called?

  39. Marinofan13 says:

    stangerx says:
    June 18, 2021 at 6:39 pm
    Not sure how many caught it, but I knew you were Yoda before pretty much everyone. Far as I know first time you have admitted it…. and have dangled it out there more than a few times.
    LOL, and I believe ya, man! Funny thing is that Chris T regretfully had to suspend me for using two different identities (M13 and Yoda). We conversed via email, and he apologized for having suspended me… that he REALLY loved my Yoda posts! But he had to do what was mandated by the SS, and I completely understood.

    I think it’s GRAND that you knew it was me as Yoda!

    • stangerx says:

      Maybe you just missed missed my posts on it. Thought was pretty direct in a way you would know without outright saying you are Yoda. Figured it out cause you and Yoda always posted at the same time. M13 showed up and then there’s Yoda.

      Liked Chris T a lot. We went on many a Home hunt together.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I think Chris T was a very good dude. Yeah, that Home-slice guy had a way of popping up at anytime… kind of like the Joker in the old Batman series (Adam West).

        Home and I were always cool with one another, and I never had anything against him personally. We have a mutual respect for one another… he sometimes pops up as a new Twitter user for me. I realize he gave most everybody here HELL, but that guy has been nothing but kind, respectful, and generous to me.

        I think I know who he is, but I’m never sure. We’d made made peace on the Topix boards before coming to the SS blogs. If he is who I think he is, he’s actually a really good dude… albeit, he loves to mess with people (obviously!).

        I’ve not had contact with him for many years, but I hope and pray he’s happy!

      • Tim Knight says:

        Chris T was a good guy. As for Home, forget the shit he would say to me, I gave it right back to him. But he said a lot of horrible things to a lot of people that bothered me more than what he said to me. He was racist and would also make homophobic and anti-semitic comments. He was disgusting towards Gigi. That’s not messing with people, that’s being an asshole.

        You saying he was always cool with you is like someone saying Hitler never did anything to me, so we’re cool. SMH

      • stangerx says:

        Home would blitz out the board with spam, attack posters with the nastyest things he could think of and keep running attacks on posters here after he’d been kicked off. But glad he was cool to you.

        And I think both know who he is and have seen him. Also guessing my take on who is different than yours.

  40. Marinofan13 says:

  41. Marinofan13 says:

    • CavalierKong says:

      Wow, talk about bringing back memories. I haven’t heard that song or seen that video in something like 25 years.

  42. son of a son of a shula says:

    Turn this one up start grooving
    Smoke em if you got em

  43. Tim Knight says:

    When you guys say you think you know who Home is, obviously he’s someone, so who is he?

    • son of a son of a shula says:


    • Marinofan13 says:

      Honestly, I’m not entirely sure. NOT trying to be cryptic, either. But I think (?) I know who he is.

      But I will tell ya this: I would never give up his identity, even if I knew for sure… which I do not.

    • stangerx says:

      It’s a long story as to exactly why, but think he is a nasty little guy who needs a wheel chair to get around. Saw him at a practice went to with Gigi and Walker. Has to do with him going up and down the stands looking for someones, his actions, that he said got to watch with AC (only handicapped or press) and his reports of being there after., including with two kids same as the wheelchair guy Combined with same guy having tried to create a Dolphins website with his pic on it. How his life is a reason to be sorry for him though.

      • Tim Knight says:

        We discussed this at the MetLife takeover years ago.

      • stangerx says:

        And nothing since has come out that makes me think different. Only possible in my mind is that Home is the Dad of that guy.

  44. Marinofan13 says:

  45. son of a son of a shula says:

    Solomon Kindley with his song
    Solomon Kindley with his song…

  46. ocalarob says:

    why did they get Justin Coleman? could that be a sign that Howard has played his last down in Miami?

  47. The Flying Pig says:

    Taint = under squiggly

  48. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 18, 2021 at 7:27 pm
    So you don’t know. Do you think he’s someone who still posts here?
    No, I don’t believe he’s someone who still posts here. I’m pretty sure he’s someone who is an interloper between many boards. Home is NOT ORob.

  49. ocalarob says:

    Jason Mcourty or bobby mccain?

  50. The Flying Pig says:

    Friday night is for music posts. I keep logging on and seeing nothing but politics

    Wtf is wrong with you guys

    Friday is for music

    I see some have started so I will continue momentarily

    But I will squeal first

    Politics is very divisive, but music posts are an opportunity to expose people from different backgrounds to something new

    Friday is for music posts

    Honor the squiggly. Post music . I don’t care if it’s my music. Post it.

    Unless you want to ask about the taint. That’s cool whenever….

  51. ocalarob says:

    coleman or needham?

  52. The Flying Pig says:

    I will focus on one band (for now)

    I saw a hipster with a Greta Van Fleet shirt on

    Greta Van Fleet is a great band

    Zeppelin fans will enjoy….and maybe criticize a little….bc early on they are kind of a rip off zeppelin band….

    But aren’t we all

    Check it how much this sounds like zeppelin

  53. Marinofan13 says:

  54. The Flying Pig says:

    This one is also zeppelin like

    But you can see The growth

    The singer, lead guitar, and Bass/keyboard are brothers

    The singer and lead guitar are twins


    You can see the talent

  55. CavalierKong says:

    I’ve been wondering where Piggy has been hiding…

  56. son of a son of a shula says:

    Here’s one that makes me think of being at the Fest. Doggy strumming, swaying with Stanger and Toba, maybe grabbing Piggy’s ass, Mike E and the rest.
    Come on let’s all sing along together on this one

  57. The Flying Pig says:

    One of my favorites

    I don’t think this is zeppelin rip offs

  58. CavalierKong says:

    Son, I will see your Bob Seger- Shame on the Moon, and raise you one Ozzy- Bark at the Moon…

  59. The Flying Pig says:

    When you come back and try posting drunk off bourbon

  60. The Flying Pig says:


    You will enjoy this post
    I’m cooking a Galician style empanada now

    Instead of a little pie. It’s a huge pie win puff pastry


    • CavalierKong says:

      Excellent! I love to make me some empanadas. What is/makes it Galician style? Ingredients or the way it’s prepared (or both)?

      • CavalierKong says:

        I’m assuming it’s being a large pie instead of small standard empanadas, but I’m curious if it’s more than that?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        The difference between Galician style and regular empanadas is that Galician style is one big pie

        Kind of inspired by Irish/British meat pie

        But I did mine with ground chicken instead of ground beef or shredded

        And so i cooked potatoes first, then added onions, then a bunch of garlic (true Galician style), then red peppers, then Green peppers

        Then Chicken

        Then Rosemary, salt, pepper And smoked paprika and oregano

        Then set that aside. And in a Cast iron pan I lined it with puff pastry
        Then poured in the meat
        Then topped with puff pastry again

        And now I’m ready to die

  61. son of a son of a shula says:


  62. The Flying Pig says:

    This Is the traditional version.


    Mine won’t look like that. I made a fat pie with puff pastry

  63. CavalierKong says:

  64. Mike E. says:

    “I hope my leg don’t break, walking on the moon”

  65. CavalierKong says:

    That sounds fantastic, Piggy. And it inspired me. I’m gunna make me some empanadas next weekend, lol.

  66. pheloniusphish says:

    One of my favorite bands

    • CavalierKong says:

      I dig that song, and I could watch her walking towards me taking off her clothes for a long time, lol.

  67. son of a son of a shula says:

    Fill my heart with song
    Let me sing for ever more
    You are all I long for all I worship and adore

    Oh pardon me

  68. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Bring me some Galician style empanadas, huh? I got time to wait . . . lol

  69. CavalierKong says:

    I can’t stop with just one Sinatra song. I always have to listen to at least two or three

  70. son of a son of a shula says:

  71. Mike E. says:

    That’s two from “An American Werewolf in London”

    • CavalierKong says:

      I just introduced my youngest to that movie, and she loved it. Still as good today as when I was kid.

  72. pheloniusphish says:

  73. son of a son of a shula says:

    Mike E good to see you pal
    You rock

  74. son of a son of a shula says:

  75. bailbondmike says:

    M13 like that old stuff.

    Man, “Informer” had a great beat and that bass is awesome. I had a flashback like cav and shook the walls. lol

  76. The Flying Pig says:

    When you’ve enjoyed your share of Galician pie

  77. The Flying Pig says:

  78. pheloniusphish says:

    This is a great video

  79. bailbondmike says:

    This one is for David 🙂

  80. stangerx says:

    Never figured out why the Stranglers didn’t catch on in the US like The Clash did.

  81. Mike E. says:

    “Stick to the roads, stay away from the moors”

  82. pheloniusphish says:

    Speaking of Zeppelin

  83. son of a son of a shula says:

  84. Mike E. says:

    “But it was still too heavy”

  85. pheloniusphish says:

    Little Faustian rock and roll

  86. pheloniusphish says:

  87. son of a son of a shula says:

    Best played really fucking loud

  88. The Flying Pig says:

    Wow you guys took introducing new music seriously

    I just had a Boner for an English nurse

    Good job

  89. son of a son of a shula says:

    Orob from earlier I think it’s Holland over McCain and my early inclination is to call it an upgrade despite him being a rookie at least he’s a taller rookie
    And McKinney should be an upgrade but he’ll play more in the middle of the field than KVN did it would seem anyway

  90. son of a son of a shula says:

    Jonathan Ledbetter shows on the active/current roster. He’s like a resurrection, he made the team as an undrafted rookie then all of his injuries piled up with a return to form he’s as viable as anyone to make it. Again. I hope he does make it, he’s crowded in amongst Beigle and Van Dyke among many others.

  91. pheloniusphish says:

    Here you go Son.

  92. pheloniusphish says:

    Saw the Doodies a couple years ago with Santana. Great concert band.

  93. son of a son of a shula says:

    Bookman where are you?

  94. son of a son of a shula says:

    Anyway some guy had an abscess right there in the old perineum 🙂
    Taint that some shit

  95. CavalierKong says:

    Fleury smh

  96. ocalarob says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    June 18, 2021 at 9:30 pm
    Jonathan Ledbetter shows on the active/current roster. He’s like a resurrection, he made the team as an undrafted rookie then all of his injuries piled up with a return to form he’s as viable as anyone to make it. Again. I hope he does make it, he’s crowded in amongst Beigle and Van Dyke among many others.
    point being it would appear we’ve upgraded at most of the positions mentioned.

  97. ocalarob says:

    we finished 6th in D last year, and with the moves we’ve made it would appear this D is better.

  98. bailbondmike says:

    What’s this? A competition to see who can wait the longest to post?

  99. stangerx says:

    Biden’s dog Champ died. That’s tough no matter who you are…’cept for Roger Vick.

  100. stangerx says:

    X and the 2021 San Fran first for DeShaun Watson….. do you do it?

    And yeah get a good chance Watson won’t play this season.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      No not doing that deal.
      X has more value than Deshaun does at this point. Plus that deal puts us directly in a QB cluster fuck with Tua still here.
      Deshaun showed his ass, he’s a phony. 4-6 months ago that deal was viable but not anymore.

      • stangerx says:

        4 months ago least some of the talking heads were saying Howard plus 3 firsts for Watson. Know Deshaun’s value has gone down, but how much? Would do a straight swap for Howard in a second. Young top-6 QB.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      No way

    • bailbondmike says:

      Throw in all the phone numbers to the massage therapists that said “YES” and you got a deal!

  101. stangerx says:

    Can’t even believe people sued over this….. but hard to argue with the Judge.
    “Methodist [hospital system] is trying to do their business of saving lives without giving them the COVID-19 virus. It is a choice made to keep staff, patients and their families safer. Nurse Jennifer Bridges can freely choose to accept or refuse a COVID-19 vaccine; however, if she refuses, she will simply need to work somewhere else,”

    — U.S. District Judge Lynn Hughes wrote in dismissing a lawsuit filed by 117 Houston Methodist workers, including Bridges, over the vaccine requirement.

    • Krishna says:

      Pretty simple and agree as I really don’t understand the lawsuit. The right to do whatever you want when you work in a hospital? Uh, no. Lmao….

  102. Krishna says:

    Lmao….i just picked up my mail today and the IRS sent me a $1,400 check. I forgot what the memo said, but I’m sure it didn’t have Biden’s name on it….lol.

    All I did was file my 2020 tax return.

    Let’s party!

  103. Krishna says:

    We need to get a least 2 1st rounders if X is all everyone on the blog thinks he is and more.

  104. Marinofan13 says:

    Note that this interview was 5 months ago… not sure what may have changed in the interim…

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Sounds pretty me first. Fuck’em.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I can understand both sides of the equation, but it’s a damn shame it’s going down like this. As I stated last week, it comes down to X’s knees. He just wants to maximize his $$$ before his knees go out (probably sooner than later), and the Phins just want him to honor the contract he signed in good faith.

        Sensing a divorce is highly likely…

      • Marinofan13 says:

        And yes, that contract (extension) X signed in good faith made him the #1 paid CB in the NFL at the time, just a very short time ago.

    • stangerx says:

      If Howard is a total stud why should signing Jones and drafting Iggy bother him at all? No one is taking his position and he had just signed a multi-year contract.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I think it comes down to $$$, Stanger. Meaning, X was by far the best CB in the NFL last year (probably should have been named the NFL DPOY), and the guy opposite him (Byron Jones) barely even registered on the stat sheet… and Byron’s making more $$$ than X.

      • Krishna says:

        I was trying to post the exact same thing for the last 3 minutes…..lol. I am cellphone retarded or my cellphone is. Lol!

      • Krishna says:

        To stanger

  105. Krishna says:

    I will correct pp. It’s not pretty at all…lol

    • Marinofan13 says:

      It’s FUGLY, Krishna!

    • pheloniusphish says:

      It’s not. I think the Rodgers/Howard etc. situations are the natural progression of the free agency era. And it’s not a good thing.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I 100% concur with ya on that, Phelon. Seems to me that the NFL is heading towards what the NBA has been doing as of late: prima donna players trying to form their own teams… not good in the least.

  106. Krishna says:

    Grier and Flores need to manage this properly. So far, they have.

    We had MFF.

    Maybe we’ll have XFF….and cash in again.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Another Tunsil cash in. The gift that keeps on giving.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      If it comes down to it, so be it. Just have to be sure Iggy is ready before pulling the trigger… and by the looks and sounds of it, he is.

      We shall see…

      • Krishna says:

        Next man up….filled some holes on D I think, maybe a hole is coming up. Overall, with or without X, thinking we should be better. Jmo.

  107. wyoming85 says:

    Rest in peace Chuck!

  108. Marinofan13 says:

    Krishna says:
    June 19, 2021 at 8:53 pm
    Next man up….filled some holes on D I think, maybe a hole is coming up. Overall, with or without X, thinking we should be better. Jmo.
    I don’t know about that, man. Here’s the bigger question: should we trade X, how much DEAD $$$ do we swallow?

    I posted something from OverTheCap.com earlier in the week, that stated we’d eat ZERO DEAD $$$. But some of our other bloggers stated that it’s not true… I’m trying to get to the bottom of it as we speak.

    IF we were to eat X’s $16.3M in dead cap by trading him, not sure he’s going anywhere, ya know?

    • Marinofan13 says:

      We may be looking at a total holdout by X — contingent upon how his contract was written — while avoiding the $16.3M in dead cap. We’ll see…

    • bailbondmike says:

      I always thought when a player is traded, any base salary left on the contract transfers to the new team. That should include any guaranteed money base salary. Only thing we would be on the hook for is any bonuses not yet paid.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        That’s exactly what I thought, too, but apparently, some think it’s otherwise… and they may be correct. I suppose it’s how the contract was written, for one.

  109. Marinofan13 says:

    Some of y’all are going to disagree with me, some of y’all are going to agree with me… but I maintain…

    — I think it’s only a question of WHEN X’s knee(s) go out
    — If he won’t honor his 5-year extension, so be it… “Jedi”
    — We cut him down to a 3-year extension, and we’ll make him the highest paid CB in the league… beating his knees going out after 4 or 5 years
    — We can easily afford this by making cuts that are naturally going to come

    We’re better off WITH X, and X is better off with US. We’re going to “alter the deal” (Vader reference) from 5 years to 3 years (knees). If all he cares about is $$$ (Leia to Han), he’ll get paid as the top-CB in the NFL (front-loaded) while he still has knees… making it easier to cut him in year 3 if his knees go out earlier than anticipated.

    X will be happy, we will be happy, and we get out of a really BAD 5-year deal what with X’s knees. What’s more? We’ve already drafted his replacement in Iggy.

    Ahem… WINNING!

  110. Rockphin says:

    Ho is your favorite literary character?

    I would have to rank mine a close
    1. Jimmy the Hand
    2. Matrim Cauthon

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Logan Nine Fingers
      Harry Dresden

    • CavalierKong says:

      Anomander Rake
      Logan Ninefingers

      • CavalierKong says:

        They are all interchangeable, and I I have about 5 or 10 others I would put right there as well.

        al’Lan Mandragoran
        Artemis Entreri

      • CavalierKong says:

        Ford Prefect

      • CavalierKong says:

        Oh, and I can’t forget, definitely at the top with a bunch of others- Gerald Tarrant

        A little know series, the Coldfire trilogy. If you haven’t read it, give it a try. Really cool take on magic and religion, and Tarrant (a villain/anti-hero) starts the series off by vivisecting his wife and kids. Hooks you right at the start.

      • New Age says:

        It’s been too long since I’ve read the Coldfire Trilogy.

  111. CavalierKong says:

    Anasurimbor Kellhus

  112. Krishna says:

    CK, really?

    ……..hero) starts the series off by vivisecting his wife and kids. Hooks you right at the start.”

    Does your family know? Lmao……

  113. pheloniusphish says:

    And since the question of cap came up on Howard. from Spotrac:
    POST-6/1 TRADE
    2021 Dead Cap: $1,400,000
    2022 Dead Cap: $2,800,000
    2021 Cap Savings: $12,100,000

  114. ocalarob says:

    getting ready to start building single family homes, found this great spot in citrus county, plenty of vacant lots to be had. construction is booming.

  115. ocalarob says:

    i doubt we cave to x’s demands, and i also doubt he holds out and loses 12mil, miami will call his bluff.

    he’ll play

  116. ocalarob says:

    Rockphin, will you come help me construct single family homes?

  117. bailbondmike says:

    Rob, what part of the county, East/West or North South? I like that part of FL. Near Crystal River or Homosassa Springs? Not near the nuke plant I hope. lol

    Let me know if you ever build in the Steinhatchee area. Wife and I have thought about selling and moving to Steinhatchee. Small, laid back and peaceful.

    Basically like the whole area from Cedar Key to Keaton Beach.

    Going on annual scalloping trip to Keaton Beach next weekend. Looks like weather is going to suck a little though.

  118. ocalarob says:

    im concentrating my efforts near citrus springs.

  119. ocalarob says:


    2335 Ancient Oaks, STEINHATCHEE, FL 32359
    Price: $35,000 MLS Listing ID: 332095
    Status: Active MLS Association: Tallahassee
    Type: Vacant Land MLS Area: Taylor
    Beds: City: Steinhatchee
    Full Baths: County: Taylor
    Half Baths: Community: ANCIENT OAKS
    Year Built: Acres: 1.00

  120. New Age says:


    Damn, I may have to use your knowledge when me and the wife retire. I want to wait a little while for the construction prices to bottom some though.

  121. Mike E. says:

    Happy Father’s Day boys! GO DOLPHINS!!!

  122. herdfan says:

    Happy Father’s Day to all you guys!

  123. stangerx says:

    My image of all you board Dad’s………. one day a year. 🙂

  124. CavalierKong says:

    New Age, I think you’re only like the 2nd person I’ve ever met that has even heard of that series. It has such a great magic system, and Tarrant is an amazing character. We have some readers on this board.

  125. CavalierKong says:

    Krishna, yep, lol, it’s a brutal introduction. Very similar to Wheel of Time when Lews Therin destroys everyone he loves, although instead madness, Tarrant is very calculated in his actions.

    The best part of the series besides learning the mechanics of the world and it’s magic (it’s not earth) is the unfolding of how and why Tarrant did what he did. He was prophet of the dominant religion, a loving father and husband, etc. And he starts the series committing that unspeakable act.

  126. stangerx says:

    X has a new agent, David Canter. Can only assume part of Canter’s pitch was “I will get you more money.” Canter was also Howard’s third agent in three years (not so easy to please on agent stuff). Combined with that interview M13 put out yesterday….. those are some ingredients for some hardball tactics by his side.

    I could see it getting ugly or, on the flip side, over quick. Don’t think Flores and Grier will let it turn into a Le’Veon Bell.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Bell’s situation was pretty different. He wasn’t under contract, and the Steelers were franchising him, so by not signing the tender and sitting out, it gave him his freedom. We have X under contract for 4 years, so sitting out a year doesn’t get him anywhere.

      Of course no team wants that kind of distraction, nor do we want our best player sitting out the season so no doubt we want it resolved.

      • stangerx says:

        Bell only had to sit out one year, but he was still sitting cause wanted more money. Yeah I see similarities if Howard does. But like said, don’t think it comes to that. He gets more money or is traded by opening day is my prediction. What don’t think is he grumbles and comes back.

      • CavalierKong says:

        The difference is if Howard sits, he’s in the exact same position next year. So if we haven’t reworked his deal or traded him by opening day, I don’t see him sitting out the year.

      • stangerx says:

        If Howard begins a holdout, just don’t see the Phins putting up with it if what they feel a reasonable offer is rejected…… and especially not if in the news and Ross is involved. Think they trade him.

  127. CavalierKong says:

    ocalarob says:
    June 20, 2021 at 9:01 am
    i doubt we cave to x’s demands, and i also doubt he holds out and loses 12mil, miami will call his bluff.

    he’ll play

    I’m still hoping this is amicably resolved by making him the highest paid on the team at around 17 mil, but we can play hardball with him because we hold all the leverage, so you may be right.

    • stangerx says:

      What leverage did Minkah have? Seems that is the comparison with this regime.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Minkah didn’t have any leverage, but we had a new coach trying to install a new system and get things started. He also wasn’t an established talent. That may have played into just recycling a 1st for Minkah and getting a distraction out of the locker room.

        We are in an entirely different place now, but we’ll see, the team may still treat it the same way and trade Howard rather than play hardball. Part of that is having a trade partner though.

        If Howard says he wants 21 mil, and we can’t find anyone who is willing to give up two 1sts and give him that contract…say we only get a single 1st as an offer, do we make that trade or do we play hardball? It may not be as simple as ‘we’re taking this approach’

      • stangerx says:

        Started with saying David Canter and X seem ready to play hardball. Still my impression. To my mind means thing could get ugly. We’ll see.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, it’s too bad they didn’t come out and say “we’ll cave if the Dolphins press”. Then we’d know where things stand, lol.

  128. CavalierKong says:

    Mike, it’s the Coldfire Trilogy by Celia Friedman. Solid series to add to the collection.

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks, I’m going to indulge myself

      • CavalierKong says:

        I’ll be curious to see what you think. It’s more a blend of sci-fi and fantasy.

      • CavalierKong says:

        FYI, I’d just get the 1st book to make sure you dig the writing and story. The story can be a bit bloated at times, but the world building, magic and characters (especially Tarrant) make it for me.

        If you find yourself saying ‘meh’ about the 1st book, you won’t like the next two.

  129. New Age says:


    There’s really nothing like it and I thought that CS Friedman was going to a household name after that and the Magister series. Really good and thought provoking stuff. I really don’t know what happened but writing is very tough to do.

    • CavalierKong says:

      ‘Nothing like it’ is a good description. It has some standard trope elements, but the story itself is pretty unique. I can’t think of anything I would compare it to.

      There is an old Roger Corman movie called Galaxy of Terror that has a sort of ‘fae producing monsters from the darkness of the human mind’ element to it, but the comparison ends there.

      • New Age says:

        I loved that movie. I don’t know if it’s nostalgia but I’ve always loved the cheesy movies of the 60s-early 80s. There was a lot of experimentation I don’t think we’ll ever see again. It had guys like Sig Haig and Robert Englund before they got really famous too. Thanks for bringing that one up.

  130. stangerx says:

    This sure would give folks in a FF league reason to mind their teams when out of the playoffs. Wonder what the guy’s calorie count was for his Waffle House day.

  131. stangerx says:

    From Omar:
    “Kindley, the former Georgia standout the Dolphins selected in the third round of the 2020 draft, was always big. But the offensive guard seems bigger these days. He’s likely heavier than his listed weight of 6 foot 4, 339 pounds, and considering his lack of movement skills made him the worst performer on Miami’s starting offensive line last year it is hard to believe he’s going to improve in that arena at a heavier weight.

    Hopefully Kindley uses this time off to get on a strict diet and a fierce workout regiment that helps him shed 20 pounds.”
    And over all a good article with ten observations from camp (and no paywall)

  132. Marinofan13 says:

    So saddening… 😦

    • Marinofan13 says:

      …”The initial evidence indicated Brennan had ingested something laced with fentanyl, a revelation Terry called “shocking.”

      Just weeks earlier, Brennan had talked to one family member about the dangers of the drug. Chanel also recalled a family dinner where Brennan referenced fentanyl’s potency.”…

      Shock G died the same way, about a week prior to Colt’s passing… ingesting something laced with fentanyl while drinking, according to his autopsy.

      If any of y’all use drugs, or know a loved one who uses drugs, be SURE to be warned about shit getting laced with fentanyl. This problem is on the rise and it’s killing a lot of folks.

      These tragedies can be prevented with more awareness, or by simply not using, period. It’s a damn shame this is going on. SMH

  133. CavalierKong says:

    Sounds like we have similar tastes, New Age.

    Galaxy of Terror has a special place in my heart. I was about 8 or 9 years old when I saw a preview for it on cable, probably HBO, and I really wanted to watch it. I was allowed to watch horror, but nothing with sex, and Galaxy of Terror was horror that I know now was too much for my age (it’s a Corman movie which says it all, lol).

    I persisted and around the same time, we got our first VCR, a betamax, lol. So my dad relented and recorded the movie, and deleted the sex scenes so I could watch it. The VCR was pure magic in my mind, and that was the prelude to some of the best memories of my childhood- going to the video store.

  134. Marinofan13 says:

    Ken says:
    June 20, 2021 at 8:36 pm
    Another argument for legalization
    I hadn’t thought about it like that, but you bring up a very strong point, Ken! Just tax the crap out of it — like they do cigarettes — and perhaps we can put a mere dent in the debt.

    But in the interim, peeps need to be thinking about what’s going on with fentanyl-laced shit.

    • Ken says:

      Legalize it, make it safer and tax it

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Exactly my point, but only marijuana. I despise the thought of legalizing it.. but we have to be honest, that people are going to do it regardless if it’s illegal. And quite honestly, it helps a great many people, so long as it’s not the precursor to harder illicit substances.

        I’m with Rand Paul: legalize it, then tax the shit out of it.

    • steveccnv says:

      If you’re going to legalize, then the penalty for the illegal pot should be substantial or why bother?

      They bother, because the politicians want the kickbacks, they don’t give a fuck about the users.

      And if you’re going to do that just legalize everything.

      First offense any drug 1 year in prison, 2nd offense 2 years, 3rd offense life.

      Just make it the federal law, with these penalties and quit fucking around

  135. Marinofan13 says:


    I also don’t want to be TOO ‘knee-jerk’ about legalizing Mary Jane, before we get to the bottom of who, what, when, where, why, or how this fentanyl-laced shit is being distributed. Let’s not turn a blind-eye to where it’s coming from and the reasons why.

    We need to shut that down, fast, and hard.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Seems a lot of it is going on in Florida, in particular.

      BBM, do you copy, sir?

    • Ken says:

      That’s why legalized MJ would help because you can control the standards and purity. You have to have a license to grow and dispense. You are subject to regulatory oversight. No more lacing it with fentanyl

      • steveccnv says:

        Yes, but its so expensive the stones are still buying it off the street.

        The tax the shit out of it here, and who knows what happens to that money, we’ll we know it’s lining some politicians pockets

      • steveccnv says:


  136. steveccnv says:

    And kids are still buying it off the street, the ones we should care the most about, that don’t benefit from it being legal

  137. ocalarob says:

    let’s trade Howard for Watson, straight up. as long as there is no pending litigation.

  138. the remaining rookies Eichenburg, Holland, and Long,, will need about 4 million out of the 5 million left in the cap

    the dolphins will have to skip signing their draft picks, or restructure contracts if howard wants more than 1 mil a year raise

    the math doesnt work, Howard may have to get traded for some draft picks, if hes not willing to play for the contract he signed

    and oh yea, legalize marijuana,

    and tax the shit out of the deadbeat welfare billionaires, but not the weed

    • steveccnv says:

      Not how it works

      • steveccnv says:

        No. 36 overall — Safety Jevon Holland

        Projected total value: $8,716,409

        Projected signing bonus: $3,699,207

        Projected 2021 cap hit: $1,584,802

        No. 42 overall — OL Liam Eichenberg

        Projected total value: $8,014,479

        Projected signing bonus: $3,188,712

        Projected 2021 cap hit: $1,457,178

        No. 81 overall — TE Hunter Long

        Projected total value: $4,968,706

        Projected signing bonus: $973,604

        Projected 2021 cap hit: $903,401

        Total is 3.93m gross, and 2.58m comes off the books for top 51 when theseb3 rookies are signed, so 1.35m is needed to sign these 3 rookies

    • steveccnv says:

      The math doesn’t work or David doesn’t know how to do the math, you decide

  139. Krishna says:

    A few myths that never seem to go away;

    * This isn’t the first time MJ has been laced with something potentially lethal and is not the first time. Every generation goes through MJ being laced.

    * MJ is a gateway drug. Bullshit and NO studies have ever shown that. Fear mongering.

    * Expensive? I guess that’s relative. Access to a greater amount and quality and haven’t seen in an increase in price in 20 years.

    * It’s about the kids. More bullshit. Stop feeding your kids sugar and processed food, and then trying to control them with Adderall. All perfectly legal ways to fuck them up.

    * Only a minority of the country support legalization. Foul again. 37 states and overe 60% (Republicans, too) of Americans believe it should be legal for recreational and medicinal uses. TX is one of few states that only permit growing and distribution.

    * All does is get “stoners” high. More bullshit. A list of medicinal benefits is exhausting. Even the Mayo Clinc uses for medical cases and prescribes it when appropriate. I witnessed the benefits it had on Mrs. K during here 2 year chemo experience.

    * It’s a weed and worthless except to stoners”. I buy as many products as I can to support the cause, i.e. water sealer for my deck, clothes, deoderant, shaving cream, etc. It’s uses are numerous and it’s organic and sustainable.

    Just a few notes off the top of my head to stop the “crazy.”

  140. Krishna says:

    Like Ken said:

    Ken says:
    June 20, 2021 at 10:55 pm
    That’s why legalized MJ would help because you can control the standards and purity. You have to have a license to grow and dispense. You are subject to regulatory oversight. No more lacing it with fentanyl

  141. Mike E. says:

    I think it will be better (read safer) when each state opens up their own dispensaries. Illegal sales are here to stay, they always will be, but for those who choose wisely, they will know they are getting a safer product. Alcohol is legal and booming but people still make their own moonshine. If marijuana is a gateway drug then so is alcohol.

  142. black market marijuana is tax free , and the dispensaries are currently also

    but dispensary prices are already exceeding black market prices

    if we tax the shit out of dispensory MJ< why would anyone pay double or triple the prices

    the dispensaries would have very little revenue , and most of the sales will remain illegal

    • steveccnv says:

      Dispensaries are tax free?

      The dispensary prices are a lot more, you’re paying higher prices, because of the tax, and for that you get quality and legality

  143. mJ laced with fentanyl is extremely rare, because most dealers are looking for big profits

    dealers dont lace their drugs with MORE expensive drugs,

    its more common to do what they refer to as stepping on it, or cutting it with cheap fillers for additional profit

    fillers can be anything, but its always cheap, cheapening the purity is the goal of lacing drugs

    a coke dealer will use flour, sugar, baking soda, just about anything is cheaper than coke, to step on it

  144. watch the queen of the south on netflix, lol

    its about the narco empire cartels moving their product with a little help from their friends in local governments

    its not a documentary, lol but its good viewing IMO

    • Mike E. says:

      We watched that show for maybe 2 to 3 seasons, but it got so played out. Every episode, the big hook was to see if they could find a different supplier for their coke w/o getting killed. Loved Pote though, he was a lovable character.

    • D says:

      Watch Queen of Meth on Discovery Plus, its Tom Arnold’s sister and in the 80’s she was one of the biggest Meth deales in the US, back when ‘Merica made its own shit instead of getting that pinko commie shit from across the border.

  145. steveccnv says:

    Believe Buffalo made a mistake by running up the score week 17.

    By doing so it exposed our problem areas, KVN, Lawson, Bobby, and Flowers were traded or released.

    By doing those transactions it allowed change in some areas we had issues with, like a run stuffer ILB, pressure on the outside at Edge, safety playing too deep taking himself out of too many plays, run blocking…

  146. steveccnv says:

    There’s still some tinkering to be done with the salary cap, besides signing our 2nd and 3rd round picks and X…, we still haven’t redone McKinney, that was reported to be in the works.

    Believe some of this years reworked X money will come in as a bonus, something like 4m, with 1m counting against this year’s cap, the rest added to the next 3 years, and additional base money added.

    Have no idea what’s going to happen with X, just putting out there what they can do.

    We also have some players, that currently count against the top 51, that won’t make the team and will be replaced by lower salaries.

    WR is one of those positions, but not a huge amount of savings, since we’ll have to add 2 players making it final 53 and practice squad.

    Bottomline is we can redo X and sign the last 3 rookies without having to cut or redo contracts

  147. D says:

    ocalarob says:
    June 20, 2021 at 10:09 am
    i have about 10 lots there for sale, i pulled that one on google maps, near landing strip, very secluded. needs clearing
    Perfect place for a quick drop off and then back in the air

    • D says:

      Incidentally, and not for the above reasons, but im very familiar with that area of Florida, just down the road a little ways from my home town.

  148. CavalierKong says:

    We love the dispensary. It’s nice to remove all the sketchiness from the whole process. The quality is extremely reliable, and we don’t mind paying the extra tax money for the legalization. I know our dispensaries get taxed heavily.

    The place we go has different tiers. Top shelf is between $75-$85 an eighth, and they have different deals on different days, e.g. on Saturdays, if you buy top shelf, you get a 2nd top shelf eighth for $30. It’s expensive, but it’s hassle-free and totally worth it in my book.

    Also in CA, you can legally grow your own, I believe it’s up to 6 plants. So if you can’t afford the dispensary, you still have the option to do your own thing.

    • Ken says:

      Connecticut just passed legalization. Starting July 1 legal to grow up to 6 plants and possess. Dispensary coming May 2022

  149. D says:

    stangerx says:
    June 20, 2021 at 3:23 pm
    This sure would give folks in a FF league reason to mind their teams when out of the playoffs. Wonder what the guy’s calorie count was for his Waffle House day.

    I am coming to you live from a Brandon, Mississippi Waffle House. I, a total loser, came in last place in my fantasy football league. As punishment, I spend 24 hours in a Waffle House. Every waffle I eat shaves an hour off the clock. It’s 4:07 Central. pic.twitter.com/oRugzU7rQT

    — Lee Sanderlin (@LeeOSanderlin) June 17, 2021
    Too bad i didnt see this the other day, i live maybe hour and a half maybe a little more away from there. I would have drove that just to see the guy sitting there, maybe i add in a little hot sauce telling the manager i heard him mumbling to himself about…..lost everything….no reason left to live….and that he seems to be awful antsy. People shouldn’t share too much online, you never know what mischievous person who is really close by that might read it and have fun at your expense.

  150. CavalierKong says:

    I’ve never personally heard of anyone getting fentanyl laced MJ, but fentanyl is the reason I don’t mess around with coke anymore. I used to party once or twice a year if it happened to come my way, but fentanyl has changed that game.

    The old risk was you might get some heavily stepped on coke and you were out a few hundred bucks, the risk now is you might get some stepped on laced coke and be out your life- not worth it.

    • Ken says:

      MJ is the only drug I would use and haven’t used any since the first fest I went to which is at least 7-8 years ago. I will now only use an edible as I will not smoke because of my history of oral cancer. Once the dispensaries open I may buy a cookie every once in a while

      • D says:

        Can fuck yourself up with edibles way harder, you should look at the THC oils for vaping. If you roll with an edible you better eat half that cookie first because some of the edibles are hard core.

      • Ken says:

        I know you have to go smaller doses with edibles. A cookie should be good for 3-4 uses or users

    • steveccnv says:

      Wasn’t your life always the risk? Len Bias

      • CavalierKong says:

        Coke has always been a riskier drug than say MJ, but there is still an element of personal judgement that goes into it. In the past, it could still be laced with something that can mess you up such as angel dust, or if you get some high quality stuff and you’re used to getting stuff that is so stepped on, that you don’t realize what you’re doing. But, just like anything, you can be cautious or reckless which can increase or minimize risks.

        In my experience it’s a relatively low risk if you know what you are doing. You can die of alcohol poisoning too, but the average user doesn’t have to worry about that- don’t chug a liter of tequila nonstop, and the risk is minimal.

        Fentanyl is a different monster. Dealers can step on their product and lace with fentanyl to still make it effective for the user, but one miscalculation and it becomes deadly. And to my understanding, there isn’t much in the way of precaution a user can take to minimize the risk that a single use can kill you.

        So now that fentanyl has become an issue, for me caution means stopping entirely.

  151. D says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    June 21, 2021 at 8:33 am
    mJ laced with fentanyl is extremely rare, because most dealers are looking for big profits

    dealers dont lace their drugs with MORE expensive drugs,

    its more common to do what they refer to as stepping on it, or cutting it with cheap fillers for additional profit

    fillers can be anything, but its always cheap, cheapening the purity is the goal of lacing drugs

    a coke dealer will use flour, sugar, baking soda, just about anything is cheaper than coke, to step on it
    They do lace their drugs with more expensive ones and then they charge more for the laced ones. People want it that way they will sell it that way.

    Also they don’t cut it with that shit, they cut it with stimulants to intensify the drug. Cuts the product but people feel like they are getting a really great high from it. Caffeine is a big cutting agent, but also stuff like aspirin to open up the veins and let it hit home harder, or legal amphetamines, ephedra, etc.

  152. steveccnv says:

    Ken, a family member is going to take the LSAT next month for 1st time, would you mind sharing your score?

    • Ken says:

      I am not sure the scoring system is still the same as when I took it back in the stone ages. If I recall correctly I scored a 38 which back in 1986 was 82nd percentile

      • steveccnv says:

        Now 180 is a perfect score, which he thinks is achievable.

        Was the test really hard or was the time more of an issue?

      • Ken says:

        Test was not particularly hard and time was not an issue. I signed up last minute and had no prep course. It was a last minute decision I was a senior in college and it dawned on me that I had to do something with the rest of my life so I decided to put the decision off for 3 years and go to law school. I think the grading system when I took the exam was 10-48

      • steveccnv says:


      • stangerx says:

        If he thinks perfect is achievable either he is super, super smart or they’ve change the test scoring since I took it. There’d be just a handful of perfect scores in the country each year.

      • steveccnv says:

        Yeah he is super smart

  153. CavalierKong says:

    Ken, my wife likes edibles, but I don’t mess with them. Something about the way my body processes it when ingested that way causes me to have anxiety. It’s weird because I never have any issue just lighting up.

    • Ken says:

      Anxious monkey 🐒

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yep, only panic attack I’ve ever had in my life came from a brownie, lol

      • CavalierKong says:

        I thought maybe I just ate too much, because like D said, they can be hardcore, but I experimented a few times after that, just taking a small dose, and I still got anxiety each time. So no more edibles for this ape

      • Ken says:

        One time we smoked in an outdoor park at night with a few friends. I got a bit paranoid and some of my friends were going through some trails in the park at night and one of my friends started fucking with me saying that there are people on the trails and they are coming for us so I was getting more paranoid and took out a small pocket knife I had. That same friend snuck up behind me and went “boo”. Reflexively I stabbed him. It was just in the arm and only a Knick and didn’t need any medical treatment or anything but yes MJ can make you anxious

      • D says:

        You really have to find your tolerance for them, eat part of one not a whole one, see how it goes, back off or push further depending on the results.

  154. D says:

    A few myths that never seem to go away;

    * This isn’t the first time MJ has been laced with something potentially lethal and is not the first time. Every generation goes through MJ being laced.
    ——Im not sure the point here, because the argument is that its dangerous because it is laced. You are right this has been true and it also has been fact, and it always has been more dangerous. Unless you know the person you are getting it from, its possible you can get back shit and it can fuck you up permanently.

    * MJ is a gateway drug. Bullshit and NO studies have ever shown that. Fear mongering.
    ——-Most people start off by whats most accessible with as little threat to getting caught with it. Weed is most peoples first drug because of that. Now does that lead to them wanting to do others, maybe, maybe not, id say it does in some cases and not in others, but since its the “gateway” into using drug, a lot of times for self therapy/self medication, there is a link to it starting people down the wrong road, and for some people that next stop is something that can get them even more high. If you ask me its just as much a fallacy that it isn’t as it is, it goes both ways.

    * Expensive? I guess that’s relative. Access to a greater amount and quality and haven’t seen in an increase in price in 20 years.
    ——–No argument here, cheaper and longer lasting that most “legal” forms of altering your state of being.

    * It’s about the kids. More bullshit. Stop feeding your kids sugar and processed food, and then trying to control them with Adderall. All perfectly legal ways to fuck them up.
    ——–Kids do not have fear of death or injury, not as conscious of it at least as adults. At their level of comprehension drugs are more dangerous and therefore it is about the kids.They live in the here and now and the here and now is fun being high, they don’t see the potential long term effects. Its not fair to categorize it as not being dangerous to kids, because it most certainly is and its more so than to adults. They also are specifically the targets fro dealers because getting them young makes the dealer more money over the years.

    * Only a minority of the country support legalization. Foul again. 37 states and overe 60% (Republicans, too) of Americans believe it should be legal for recreational and medicinal uses. TX is one of few states that only permit growing and distribution.
    ——Have not really researched it to know the numbers, im guessing you dont have supporting info either, but i wont argue something i cant prove or disprove.

    * All does is get “stoners” high. More bullshit. A list of medicinal benefits is exhausting. Even the Mayo Clinc uses for medical cases and prescribes it when appropriate. I witnessed the benefits it had on Mrs. K during here 2 year chemo experience.
    ———Medical benefits are not accurate, it does significantly help with symptoms, specifically those that cause anxiety, or nausea, etc but in general its not a health benefit. You arent getting beneficial nutrients, you aren’t getting beneficial chemicals that like improve immunity etc. What you do get is a drug that relaxes you, takes away stresses and anxieties for however long they are effective. It can help emotionally, it can help in situations when appetite needs stimulation, etc, but this is not “beneficial” its therapeutic.

    * It’s a weed and worthless except to stoners”. I buy as many products as I can to support the cause, i.e. water sealer for my deck, clothes, deoderant, shaving cream, etc. It’s uses are numerous and it’s organic and sustainable.
    ———-Thats hemp and hemp oils, not the drug. Big difference. The THC laden parts are not the parts used for other products. There are beneficial parts to the plant its true but the bud isnt used for anything but getting high.

    Just a few notes off the top of my head to stop the “crazy.”
    Even though im refuting most your post, i don’t care about weed legalization. I have smoked it, i wasn’t one of the gateway people but that’s also because my personality isnt addictive by nature. I get bored faster than i could get addicted lol (Thank you ADHD). If they approve legalization im going to use it the same amount i currently do which is none, because 1) my company doesn’t allow for it and they wont even if the state makes it legal and 2) i just dont have the time or lifestyle to fit it in right now. Just like with anything your assertions and the ones to the contrary both have merit given the circumstance. There is no blanket statement that can be made about all of these items that truly covers the right and wrong of it.

  155. D says:

    The Len Bias situation was an underlying health condition that didn’t mesh well with something like coke. Point i think that’s being made about it, is that its kind of Russian roulette, and people who do drug should really go into it knowing (and preferable at a mature mental level) that this may be the last does they ever take. Everyone’s body will react differently to different drugs, so you legalize it, accept the consequences if a family member dies of an overdose, because wanting it legal is asking for those results in a portion of those that would use it.

    Now should it be legal to allow them to make this decision without restrictions, i don’t think so but you aren’t going to stop them. If you legalize a drug for ages 25 and up do you think it stops the 25 and under from getting it illegally? nope. That’s also proof that no matter the taxation or legal status, you aren’t shutting down the illegal drugs, its too deep rooted. Only stopping of kids using it to raise them the right way and to know the truth and hopefully they will make the right decision and if they don’t prayer that they survive the experience. Again though, i base most of my thoughts on should it be legal is on my kids safety, and i see the argument on either side, but for me, my children are the reason it shouldn’t be legal, because its harder to convince them to not risk their lives on drugs when its also illegal than when they will be sitting there going, but its legal Dad, they wouldn’t make something legal that could really hurt me.

  156. D says:

    Best part of the legalization argument is cleaner sources for products. With that i wholly agree, and if my kids were going to do drugs i would hope it was from a clean source with less inherent risk of something bad happening.

  157. Marinofan13 says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    June 21, 2021 at 8:33 am
    mJ laced with fentanyl is extremely rare, because most dealers are looking for big profits

    dealers dont lace their drugs with MORE expensive drugs,

    its more common to do what they refer to as stepping on it, or cutting it with cheap fillers for additional profit

    fillers can be anything, but its always cheap, cheapening the purity is the goal of lacing drugs

    a coke dealer will use flour, sugar, baking soda, just about anything is cheaper than coke, to step on it
    We need to find the source of this fentanyl-laced shit before more people die. If you played the video of the newscast in Florida I posted last night, fentanyl-laced MJ is on the rise and Shock G’s death isn’t an isolated incident.

    Seems there’s a real market for fentanyl-laced MJ and we need to shut it down.

  158. ocalarob says:

    Ocalarob says:
    June 21, 2021 at 6:13 am
    let’s trade Howard for Watson, straight up. as long as there is no pending litigation.

    Krishna says:
    June 21, 2021 at 7:17 am
    You must be smoking steveccnv’s “kid stoner” shit.,,,,lol.

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    June 21, 2021 at 7:41 am
    ocala isnt known for its high quality weed, lol

    too much gainesville green

    Two peas in a pod, So i must be smoking something to want Watson over Tua,

    Yeah, i’m smoking common sense tweedle dee and tweedle dumb.

    • Krishna says:

      That was name-calling and disrepectful and something you never do! Lmao at your hypocrisy.

      Can’t take a joke and needs to get in the dirt at once. Nice!

  159. ocalarob says:

    Calif has notified residents of rotating power outages, pouring money into renewable energy due to the green new deal doesn’t seem to be working.
    Gavin Newsome can’t keep the power on LOL.

    the leftwing failures

    no wonder everyone is moving to FLA.

  160. stangerx says:

    Supreme Court ruled against the NCAA today in a suit about what benefits can be given scholarship athletes. Only covered lap tops and other educational stuff, but paves the way for a whole lot more……like cash.

    • steveccnv says:

      Damn the NCAA and the Olympic Comittee, they get filthy rich while the athletes eat Mickey Ds

      • stangerx says:

        Olympic Athletes get paid these days. Bonuses for medals. Least in the big sports….. which is probably how the NCAA would go.

      • D says:

        If they use their names they should be compensated, now im more in favor of a trust fund or something that has some control on usage or how much is pulled out of it yearly, but like part of it could go to an insurance policy, some of it could be invested for them, maybe some extra classes on financial planning, smart investing, etc. Not all the athletes, even the best ones will make it in pro sports and this could be a way for them to “get paid” in college, without it starting to be a bidding war for which college is willing to pay top dollar for top athletes.

      • Ken says:

        College athletes get full scholarship including room and board and the opportunity to get a bachelors degree there is a lot of value in that

      • D says:

        The fixed amount paid per usage of their name, or likeness also shouldnt be a factor of their popularity but of the revenue generation, like dont pay them, compensate them for using name and likeness.

      • Ken says:

        I agree with D to the extent that their name and number are used to sell jerseys they should get a percentage of that

      • D says:

        Thats true Ken, so hey are already compensated/technically paid in that respect, but usage of their names for merch seems to be above those standards, thats why i am not in favor of paying them, but i am in favor of compensating them for additional revenues made off their name/likeness.

      • steveccnv says:

        Stanger you’re talking about a few of them in each event getting paid, while the vast majority don’t.

        I can see someone like Eddie the Eagle, that has no talent not getting paid, but…what I really hate is how much money the olympics bring in, what they charge for the events and how much organizers and high ups make at the expense of the athletes

      • stangerx says:

        Steve — most of the rich countries support their teams big time, especially the name sports. Did you count the US soccer Women biotching they weren’t paid as much as the men? Forget the exact numbers but the men were getting close to or more than six figures.

      • steveccnv says:

        The women’s team actually makes more than the men, rapino has been called out for her lie

  161. stangerx says:

    Ken says:
    June 21, 2021 at 2:43 pm
    College athletes get full scholarship including room and board and the opportunity to get a bachelors degree there is a lot of value in that.
    Absolutely true and means they are giving these athletes something worth a lot of money cause can play a sport that generates money for the school, which often lets them in when otherwise would not.

    What’s the argument for not being able to give your future NBA first rounder two thousand or ten thousand a month on top of that?

    • Ken says:

      Because it is not a professional sport. There are eligibility requirements. If it was as simple as paying someone to play you might as well just do away with college athletics. I do agree D that students athletes should get compensated for the use of their likeness.

      • stangerx says:

        The scholarship ends if a student stops playing it for non-injury reasons. I would call that a professional sport.

      • Ken says:

        So? The athlete is still required to go to class, maintain a gpa and there are limits to how much they can practice. Of course there is a business element to it but if you allow students to play for pay you will destroy college athletics. You might as well just do away with them and create professional minor leagues

      • stangerx says:

        Not saying want it, just looking at it from the legal end. NFL has various restrictions but they are set by the CBA with the Player’s Union. Nothing like that with NCAA. So only way see legal is if the NCAA is exempt from anti-trust laws. And in the case today the high court indicated no it is not.

        So see this as the first of a bunch of suits. Congress could pass a law though.

      • Ken says:

        But there are similarities between CBA and NCAA rules and regs. There are limits to practice and requirements to provide certain facilities and the like.

      • stangerx says:

        Yes there are but the college athletes don’t have a union, and thus weren’t represented. And NCAA is dictating their right to take money. From their school, from boosters, from endorsement companies and from agents. Did they agree to that? Guess argument would be they did by taking the scholarship (something of worth) but what if that hot stud power forward pays his own way?

  162. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, from the article I posted above.

    “Over a 10-year-period, some 25.3 million customers lost power in the Sunshine State, versus 22.2 million Californians and 18.3 million New Yorkers, the study found.”

    “It’s worth noting Florida, unsurprisingly, was highlighted for having the weirdest reason for a power outage, that is, zombies. The fake alert, which came out of Lake Worth in May 2018, was mentioned in the report. If you all recall, the viral text said “extreme zombie activity” left around 7,880 customers without power.”

    • Ken says:

      LMAO only in Florida

    • steveccnv says:

      The difference is when FL loses power vs when CA does.

      Does anyone in FL not expect to have the power shut off when a hurricane comes in?

      Can’t say the same about CA residents when their power goes out and the reasons behind it

      • stangerx says:

        You mean like wild fires?

      • CavalierKong says:

        As I stated above, there have been rolling blackouts in CA during peak hours in heatwaves going back to at least the 80’s (earliest I can remember), well before renewables became a political talking point. And I have still never personally experienced one.

        But either way loss of power is still loss of power.

        I’m sure the people who have no power in FL aren’t sitting around thinking “well even though I don’t have power right now, at least it isn’t because of renewable energy” LOL

      • steveccnv says:

        Not wild fires, mismanagement, poor planning, building too far into BLM…

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s a poor assumption, that because CA had power outages in the 80s before renewables became a political talking point, means the renewables have nothing to do with them today

      • stangerx says:

        steve — do you think it a fair assumption that the current power outages are cause of renewable energy sources?

      • steveccnv says:

        No, just the same as I mentioned you can’t assume, because there were blackouts before the renewables, that now with renewables it’s not the problem

      • steveccnv says:

        My post had nothing to do with with what I thought about renewables, just basic assumption logic

    • stangerx says:

      Cav — guess ORob got you going with that one. And Cal does have like twice as many people as FLA. But we get the hurricanes too, which might explain why more outages.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, I usually don’t get into a tit for tat over state stuff which I find to be silly. But I know very little about CA’s renewable power and energy stuff. I was actually curious to see what basis in reality it had, and the fact that Florida has more power outages than CA and we have nearly twice the population was too funny to ignore, plus you know…zombies. LOL

      • stangerx says:

        The Cal power outages were just a way to conclude with the punishing finish of “the leftwing failures.” Any chance you get gotta take it. Guessing never thought you would research actual historic power outage numbers.

        And as a FL guy I’m caught in the crossfire…. and couldn’t care less.

  163. CavalierKong says:

    Steve is right. We have dozens of zombie related events every year that the democrats just won’t let us report on. It’s a well kept CA secret. Werewolves too…LMAO

    • D says:

      Dont tease me, i have been hoping for the zombie outbreak, was kinda hoping this covid vaccine would bring it…finally, but alas so far still seems like a pipe dream.

  164. CavalierKong says:


    Rob takes pot shots at CA all the time, it doesn’t bother me. Everyone out here thinks Florida is a joke and where all the weird shyte happens. It’s the butt of most state jokes on talk radio, etc. It’s all stupid. I know not everything in Florida is Deliverance and people eating each other’s faces, lol.

    But like I said, I’ve never really had any interest in our energy situation. The reality is it just doesn’t affect me. I guarantee all you guys in FL have had far more power outages than I’ve ever had. In the past 20 years, I can count on one hand the times I’ve lost power, and they were always because a transformer blew, usually from a car accident.

    So people can politicize it however they want to, but like usual, the reality is a lot different than what people think.

    • stangerx says:

      Florida is pretty cool, but understand a running national joke for wacky shiot happening. Doesn’t seem to stop many millions from wanting to visit though. And they come back…. how bad could it be?

      And Cal has a target on its back as well, but for a different reason. A symbol of liberal politics to right-wing folks.

  165. CavalierKong says:

    Steve, I’m not making assumptions. I’m saying rolling blackouts have been around in CA since I was a kid which pre-dates renewables being politicized.

    I don’t know if renewables are the reason today. I know I’ve seen the assumption that renewables are the reason on this board. But I also know that we have a massive population, and energy grids, energy storage vs projected usage, etc are probably a lot more complicated than the simple political rhetoric of “its cause of renewables”

    • CavalierKong says:

      I freely admit, I don’t know much about our power grid. I can’t tell you what percentage of our power comes from renewables vs traditional. I know the bay area is where the rolling blackouts occasionally occur- like once or twice a year maybe. I believe it’s because of population density, because we don’t experience it here in Sacto where we are more spread out.

    • D says:

      I agree, you have a severe population issue, can we just terminate a few million from the LA area to get that shit under control already?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Take a few million from the bay area as well, lol.

        Rob say people are leaving CA for FL. I say move them there at a faster rate. I’ll be leaving CA when I retire, mostly because I want to be somewhere with less people.

      • stangerx says:

        Import a truckload of Florida zombies….. that would be a start.

  166. D says:

    Another way to approach it would be to remove any restrictions of players going straight to the professional level, keep college “payment” as payment for the college education and/or experience and training they get at a semi-pro level. They could create semi-pro leagues for those that wish to bypass college or only attend one year so they at least get an opportunity to see if that’s the right fit for them. They can begin to earn faster, in a semi-pro level, much as they would get from college, and upon completion of that they can gain access to the pro’s. They earn money faster, they get endorsements, etc faster, they get the training needed to make a career, and they don’t get dropped into a meat grinder at 18-19.

    Still I’m in 100% agreement with Ken that no matter how ya do it, you significantly hurt college sports, and the player potentially, and in most cases. Some kids don’t benefit at all from an education, or the 3 years they are required to attend, but a lot do i am sure it will open things up for very poor decisions by people doing a money grab. The act of truly paying a player to play is also going to destroy it, because colleges like UF with their Gatorade money will buy up all the top players. Now since that is my school, oh well that’s how it will be but i do think it would kill competitive spirit of the college ranks and i think its just now kind of getting good with some of the top players opting for immediate starts at smaller programs and that bridging the divide between the haves and have nots.

  167. pheloniusphish says:

    The reason Florida has so many strange happenings is because the carpet baggers move down from up north, then the sun quickly bakes their brains and they do weird shit. Florida Man is never actually from Florida. Neither are the Iguanas.

    • D says:

      Actually i have had several convos about this with another Florida transplant that live in my area, and we have sources several, especially the murderers who they did come to Florida, from places like Michigan, Joisey, etc and they commit the murders here but they aren’t Florida born.

    • stangerx says:

      Yeah — all the the carpet baggers fault. And I resemble that remark.

      • D says:

        We use to call them Snow Birds, Sunbirds when they decided to stay. Carpet bagger i though was used to describe a different group of people.

  168. D says:

    Humankind is just fine as long as ya remove about half the humans from it. I’m all for the snap. If I’m snapped or if I’m not, its a damn win.

  169. ocalarob says:

    Cav, no need to get your leftwing feathers ruffled, Fl has a lot of blackouts due to hurricanes, and if you count all the homeless in tents in calif it would appear you have a huge population.
    2100 people a day are moving to FL, most are fleeing calif & NY.
    you had rolling blackouts all over the state last aug due to peak demands that renewable energy couldn’t meet. renewable energy is not reliable otherwise it would be everyone’s sole energy source.

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s also not renewable, because in 10 or so years you have to replace the turbines, where do you think that goes?

      Then build more using “non-renewable energy”

      How’s that footprint?

    • stangerx says:

      Least they get blackouts half as much as FL does according to those stats. Doesn’t that mean better?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Like I said above, it doesn’t bother me when you take pot shots at CA. I just found it amusing that your statement was people are leaving CA for FL because we ‘can’t keep the power on’, yet Florida has by far more power outages per capita than CA. It’s just facts.

      It’s rather typical for people that only see things through a political lens to get things completely wrong.

      And I wish you Trump supporters would get it through your head that I am not a liberal. I get that you think everything to the left of Trump is liberal leftwing, but believe it or not, there is a whole spectrum besides Trump supporter and Leftwing.

      • ocalarob says:

        I think it has more to do with Gavin Newsome than blackouts

      • CavalierKong says:

        Now I can totally agree with your opinion on Newsome. That guy lost me the second he took office when he announced a moratorium on the death penalty because it went against his beliefs.

        That shyte pissed me off. I put that in the same category as that clerk-recorder who wouldn’t sign marriage licenses for gay couples after the SC ruled on it.

        You’re a public servant. If part of your duties go against your beliefs, then STEP DOWN.

        We had literally just voted 2 years earlier to keep the death penalty and this chucklehead comes in and says he’s suspending it because he doesn’t believe in it?!

        I don’t even care that we haven’t executed anyone in more than 15 years. For me it was all about the principal. You just told all the people in CA that for this issue, your vote doesn’t matter.

      • CavalierKong says:

        **principle** (before Mike calls me out, lol)

    • D says:

      Feces is a renewable energy source. If people don’t shit they die, and just for self preservation, they keep renewing the energy source. You use it to grow stuff which then gets consumed, which then renews the source.. You use it to power stuff, like electricity, so you can have the lights on when you shit, boom renewing the source. You turn it into fuel so you can drive to taco bell and triple the renewal.

  170. Krishna says:

    D, I appeciate you response altough I disagree with you most of your tit for tat response to me…..lol.

    I was trying to address and summarize a number “myths” that were expressed by 2-3 bloggers expressing old, tired reasons why MJ isn’t legal. I have never understood except to say somehow the alcohol industry won out over the MJ industry. Now that my be a topic to explore.

    I will also state your use of the term gateway and my understanding seem to far apart.

    Have you read the side-effects and contraindications on your ADHD medication and what is the underlying cause that it is healing you from? Another huge disparity in our understanding of health and wellness.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Reefer Madness lives on.

    • D says:

      Well I’m just glad you didn’t take it personal because tit for tats can come off that way, ill start with that.

      I’m not fond of the ADHD medicines either but they make a hell of a difference in the ability of my kid, especially to maintain focus. Its an odd treatment but is rooted pretty deeply in science.

      You may understand this but im going to just run over it quickly.,

      You have neurotransmitters for different brain transmissions and they work like a lock and a key, these receivers are shaped specifically for each type of transmitted neuron. With an ADHD person they have neurons for short term to long term memory, maybe calming effects for anxiety, mental focus, etc and on an ADHD person their transmitter doesn’t always send the properly formed neuron meaning it doesn’t fit in the receiver. This could prevent the calming signal or the short term to long term memory storage of “pick up bread on way home from work”. This happens to all people but if the release of 80 transmissions of a normal person, related to reception of 75 then the person is probably going to remember get bread. If however its like the ADHD brain and a larger percentage of those fails to “connect” then you get a lesser likelihood to get bread.

      The medicine works by transmitting even more signals for every such function so year you still only get maybe 35% of them to connect, that 35% is closer to 80 than previously. You needed 70 to connect just to pass to long term, you got 35% of 80 before, now you got 35% of 250. See what i mean? Is it potentially bad? Hell yes, so that’s why ya got through several iterations of testing and follow ups and coming back every three months to discuss any side effects.

      The problem is, there is no other method for replicating the success of the medicine and that very specific treatment. Pot actually completely makes ADHD worse, as the problem is that an ADHD mind is very much like a person who has smoked week, when its not active. The ADHD will shut off regions of the brain and this can be seen on CT specific CT scans that show brain activity. Pot does this to an active brain, some parts of the brain shut down (not permanently, I’m not accusing pot of permanent drug damage, that’s for a different discussion lol).

      I have done a ton of research and had Physicians explain it to me, but i don’t really consider the use of another drug and its negative effects to show positive effects of others. I do think in therapeutic manners, Pot is a very good drug, i see benefits from it, and yes ADHD has some negative to its treatment, and its actually more a therapy than cure or beneficial medicine as well, my comment was more to the fact that i dont think that arguments against pot are unfounded, but i also think that, and most physicians will tell you that ADHD meds aren’t a guaranteed of anything there is lots of trial and error but if you find the right one that matches up to your specific mix of issues causing you ADHD, it can be successful. It has been very successful with my kid, and kind of meh with me.

      Ok sorry i was wrong it wasn’t brief at all lol.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        You are D…we don’t expect brief.

      • D says:

        Lol, good point.

      • Krishna says:

        Yes, you are correct, I completely understand what you wrote.

        My question goes back to the root cause. Allopathic medicine rarely heals conditions. It mosts alleviates symptons.

        I have aleady put out a sound reason for those that are sensitive to chemical/metabolic imbalances due to diet.

        Also, could you not “see” or explore the idea that the chemistry (food, pot, etc) might impact/close the receptors available to function more properly.

        I am not a big fan of the allopathic model toward health and wellness. It principally treats symptoms and rarely addresses cause and you have laid out.

  171. pheloniusphish says:

    I don’t think people are leaving Cali for Florida. Too hot and humid for them delicate petunias.

    • stangerx says:

      People are leaving Cal, but going to places like Texas and Arizona (including our Dog). Lots of folks coming to FL, but tend to be from the Northeast and Midwest.

      Sorta of funny how the far right complains about liberal NY & Cal, but they are heading out to vote in more competitive states.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I think that’s the complaint….They fuck up the state they live in with their voting habits, then move to a state that is more conservative and keep voting the same. Thereby fucking up another state.

      • Krishna says:

        In terms of the demgraphic migration, stanger is correct. Fucking CAs have been coming here in droves, more than any other, and driving up insane real estate prices. It’s ridiculous.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        They do it everywhere they go. Them and New Yorkers. Whitefish, MT – cool, funky little town where a year and a half ago you could get a beer for two bucks – home prices have gone up 45% over last year.

      • D says:

        I really like how Texas manages themselves economically. It would be high on my destinations of places to move, not just because it has tremendous diversity in industry, but the no state tax etc. If i didn’t move back to Florida, which is my intent when i retire, id move to Texas in a heartbeat.

      • stangerx says:

        Phelon — you saw what happened in VA. And that was mostly cause of NOVA growing. And yeah it is F-ed up from the the local True Red standpoint. But then the Blue folks have a legit complaint about the small states being Red creates a disadvantage in the Senate and electoral college. The migration change is natural.

  172. stangerx says:

    Reason California people have a lot of money to spend when they come into a place is simple……California housing prices are insane. They sell their house, buy one in the new place for one-third the price and have plenty of cash left over for pricey beers in Whitefish, MT.

    • CavalierKong says:

      My pension will sure look nicer in another state.

    • Krishna says:

      Lol…yep. phindog sounds like he did same in AZ, but still income tax.

      Nine states — Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming — have no income taxes.Apr 8, 2021

  173. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – You ever notice how few migrate from those small red states to those big blue places? That’s because they are happy with the life they have created. If those “Blue Folk” want that life, they should become “Red” not tear down the culture others have built. If they want what they have they should stay where they are. The Electoral College and the composition of the Senate was meant to counteract the population density of urban areas.

    • stangerx says:

      I would never tell someone how to vote. And certainly not cause people born where they now live want them too. And I was your carpet bagger in both VA and now FL. Would like to think was respectful of traditions, but then when was there 60% of the people in Richmond weren’t born in VA. How is it supposed to work then when us baggers are in the majority?

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Voted absentee-FL while I was in the Corps. Changed my residency back to Florida as soon as we bought the Keys house. When I was voting Virginia, voted the way the natives did since it coincided with my predilections.

      • stangerx says:

        Sounds like we voted for the same folks in VA except went with John Warner (who liked). Mostly straight GOP, but the locals part wasn’t involved. Just a Republican.

        And of course you changed back to FL……. no income tax. 🙂

  174. CavalierKong says:

    I still haven’t decided where we’ll end up. Definitely somewhere up north, but whether we’ll also head east is the decision still to be made. I’ll make sure to let the board know, so whichever state we move to, whoever lives there can be sure to buy a home before we get there and raise the real estate prices, lol.

  175. pheloniusphish says:

    Krishna – I completely agree with you on medicine. Although when I have a fucking headache, I ain’t trying to meditate it away – Ima drop 800mg of acetaminophen in heartbeat.

  176. Randy says:

    I got $30K burning a hole in my pocket. Looks like I’m gonna buy me a 3 bedroom rambler in Grabasnatchee, Florida….with a pool….and one of those screened in liarnay things I heard tell about.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Easy there Big Blue…You ain’t accounted for the free gators and skeeters.

    • Rockphin says:

      That should be good for a circa 1990 double-wide trailer…..

      • Rockphin says:

        with original orange shag carpet

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I worked at a place that bought repossessed mobile homes when I was a kid. Had one come in that had be set up as a brothel – Zebra shag throughout, mirrors on the ceiling. Was like walking into The Time Tunnel.

  177. pheloniusphish says:

    “Regardless of what people externally think about the number in a contract the fact is the team takes on all the risk once an extension is signed. The injury risk shifts from the player to team which is highly beneficial to the player. Miami got 5 games in 2019 and then a fantastic year in 2020. That is probably a fair tradeoff for both sides all things considered and one that should not require opening a potential can of worms with a bunch of other players one or two years from now.”


  178. Randy says:

    Skeeters? Up here they’re big enough to carry off your small children if you don’t keep ‘em staked down. As for gators, I figured I’d just enroll me in one of those classes at the local senior center that teaches how to make belts, boots and wallets out of the varmits….cause where I’m from…we shoot varmits. Problem solved….and ya got a nice new belt to go with the Seersucker suit.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Damn tootin’…that’s the best treatment for a gator. But what Florida skeeters lack in size, they make up for in numbers and tenacity. And seersucker is the bomb if you can wear it without laughing at yourself.

  179. stangerx says:

    “I just wanted to take a quick moment to say that I’m gay. I’ve been meaning to do this for a while now, but I finally feel comfortable enough to get it off my chest.”

    — Las Vegas Raiders defensive end Carl Nassib becoming the first active roster gay player in the history of the NFL. And he’s not a scrub (on a three-year, $25 million deal).

    • Krishna says:

      I’m sure the NFL mirrors society in terms of gaeity on a percentage basis. Sad its not acceptable to same degree.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Seriously, who cares? That’s Nassib’s business, not mine or anybody else’s business.

      Are we all supposed to celebrate, or put a target on his back? Neither seem appropriate, so why the big deal about it?

      It’s 2021, and homosexuality is now generally accepted in American society… so why the publicity, I ask? Is it for shock-value, or is it agenda-driven?

      Doesn’t matter to me if one is gay… this is a non-story.

      • stangerx says:

        He put it out there (so wanted it out) and first time in the NFL. Guessing a lot of gay guys think it is pretty cool at least.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Then I believe it was for publicity.

      • stangerx says:

        Maybe he just did it cause he wanted to be an openly gay man. You’ve heard of coming out of the closet. A freeing experience by all reports.

      • Krishna says:

        I’m not sure how it’s about publicity, but I’m not surprised by your response.

        He’s the only one whose admitted it….hmmmm.

  180. Krishna says:

    It is sad to think (or maybe you don’t) how hard it is for people to admit who they are….feeling they would be judged harshly or not accepted, i.e. not make an NFL team or how the locker room would “see” you.

  181. Ken says:

    Good for Nasib. Be who you are. It is not about publicity it’s about acceptance

  182. Ken says:

    And now for something really bizarre:

    • Marinofan13 says:

      YO! That was bizarre, is right! His lyrics are real, and that’s what’s bizarre.

      Just so ya know, I can’t stand AUTO-TUNE. Every word Beasley spoke into the microphone was digitally morphed. In other words, if he really sounded good, he wouldn’t need AUTO-TUNE (as is the case with most musicians today).

      I’d like to see him perform this without auto-tune, just to have EVERYBODY laugh in his face!

  183. Marinofan13 says:

    Reading is fundamental, so allow me to re-post…

    “It’s 2021, and homosexuality is now generally accepted in American society… so why the publicity, I ask?”

    I’m NOT denigrating anyone.

    Plus, homosexuals are PROTECTED today by federal law (hate crimes). Why the big deal about being gay today? Now had this happened a decade ago, it would have been BIG news.

    Krishna, you’re looking for a fight that I’m not willing to give you. It’s okay to be gay, and I’m not saying anything to the contrary.

  184. Marinofan13 says:

    Y’all KNOW we’ve reached another stretch of football doldrums, when most of the board is being taken up by political and topical convo! This is where people collide on the blog. Respect your fellow blogger!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Opinions are mere opinions, and not edicts from the King or Queen of England: it’s alright to have a difference of opinion.

  185. Mike E. says:

    Kong, come to the NE. I want to sample your cooking!

    • Krishna says:

      Mrs K and I loved it when he did the Armidillo Xmas bizarre in ATX. I think we have a signed CD. Lmao…I thought he was great!

  186. Krishna says:

    It’s not a fight Mf13, trust me. I will ask you again and maybe you will respond. Why is he the only openly admitted gay player in the NFL? Lol, i thought there was someone else at one time. No one cares so why is it about publicity?

    I’m also ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ so really don’t care.

    Mostly, it’s about awareness and acceptance. I try to learn something everyday and I don’t care who I learn it from.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      …”Why is he the only openly admitted gay player in the NFL?”…

      Krishna, read this and get back to me. WHY is it such a BIG deal?


      • Ken says:

        It is a big deal because in the history of the NFL there has never been an openly gay player on a game day roster. That is nearly 100 year history. Why hasn’t there been an openly gay player on a roster until now. If there is such acceptance then why just one in 100 years?

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Seriously, who really gives a funk about a certain person’s sexual preference? That’s SO Hollywood.

      • Ken says:

        On one hand I agree with you a M13 a person’s sexuality should not be an issue but historically it is a huge issue. Homosexuality has been shunned for centuries. We have made strides in acceptance. And while I am not gay I have several friends that are and my general feeling is who the hell am or anyone for the matter to say who another person can love?

      • olddolphan says:

        WELL, KEN, you certainly can NOT openly love a Jets’ fan, RIGHT??
        SO, there is that. REALLY OUT!!

      • Ken says:

        Damnit OD my secret is out

      • olddolphan says:


      • Krishna says:

        I guess when you can’t answer my question you say, “get back to me”. LMAO! Cowardly, too…..so sad.

  187. olddolphan says:

    OOPS – – – Tampa Bay just took a 4-0 lead on Captain Steven Stamkos’ 2nd
    goal of the evening – – – SOOO I’m calling this a “W” for the defending Stanley Cup
    winners, the BOLTS!!!

    ANNNDDD they keep alive there record of NOT having lost TWO consecutive
    games in the NHL Playoffs over the last TWO SEASONS. They’re a PERFECT
    12-0 after a loss during this run to glory.

    TIME for Great Grandpa to walk the Greyhound and get his beauty rest.
    Y’all have a great evening and a better tomorrow!
    The Old Dolfan is OUT!!

  188. wyoming85 says:

    Except in Rome!
    Wait they crashed right???????

  189. Marinofan13 says:

    Ken says:
    June 21, 2021 at 9:34 pm
    On one hand I agree with you a M13 a person’s sexuality should not be an issue but historically it is a huge issue. Homosexuality has been shunned for centuries. We have made strides in acceptance. And while I am not gay I have several friends that are and my general feeling is who the hell am or anyone for the matter to say who another person can love?
    Then you should agree with me with BOTH hands. You’re speaking “historically”, and today is a new day. NO MORE DISCRIMINATION, PERIOD, and it’s been that way for a time.

    Simply put, I do not care (nor does the general public) if one is homosexual. It’s kind of like beating a dead horse, if you will. It’s played out, and nobody really cares anymore, being our society has become very accepting.

    What if Dan Marino comes out as gay? I DON’T CARE! It doesn’t affect me — nor should it — when everyone should be able to live the life they choose (within reason, of course).

    • Ken says:

      I wish we can say there is no more discrimination but you know that is far from the case and that is why it is an issue and a big deal

      • Ken says:

        And if it doesn’t affect you why do care if Nasib has openly come out?

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Fair point, and those who wield the real power are the ones who promote such hatred. Look no further than Joe Biden (racist mofo).

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