Center of attention

In the 2020-2021 offseason, the Miami Dolphins signed free agent C Matt Skura, who was not re-signed by the Ravens. I wasn’t a big fan of that move, I didn’t really have a lot of confidence in the Ravens castoff. Twofold reasoning here. When the Ravens let a guy go, there’s a reason. They are one of the best run franchises in the NFL and when they make personnel decisions, they’re usually correct. Unlike the move last year of bringing in former Patriot Ted Karras, this one smelled of we missed out on who we really wanted but we need to take someone. In walks 2019 Miami Dolphins 3rd RD pick Michael Deiter, #78 overall.

Deiter played all 16 games of the 2019 season at LG with 15 game starts. He played 93% of the offensive snaps that season. You have to go back to 2018 for Skura where played 100% of the snaps and each year his play has decreased. Of course it’s easy to say that Deiter didn’t play much at all last season, but 2020 is a mulligan due to COVID-19. There’s no official status yet that Michael Deiter will be our starting C but it seems clear that they wouldn’t mind if it worked out that way. The former Wisconsin road grader will be given every opportunity to take the job, and I hope he does just that.

Coming out of Wisconsin, Deiter played both left guard, right guard and center with the majority coming at center. Deiter is a bit tall for a C at 6’5 but the Dolphins had Mike Pouncey here for years who was also 6’5. Deiter can win at the LOS but has some trouble with second level blocks. I’ll take winning at the LOS for now. Deiter’s draft rating was “Good backup who could become starter” OK Mike, take the job and run with it! Deiter is signed through next season so we can get a good look at him this season and then we have next season to either decide whether he’s our future center or whether we need to look for another. Skura has a 1 year contract which to me says he was just an insurance policy that the team would use if necessary for one season.

As far as the other camp battles, Austin Jackson appears to be a shoe in for the LT position while at LG, my choice for RT Liam Eichenberg has been getting lots of snaps. I wouldn’t read too much into it, I still firmly believe that Solomon Kindley will be the starting LG. Robert Hunt has been at RG where I feel he will be the starter and Jesse Davis has been getting reps at RT. All this is very fluid though, guys need to get reps in and once again, I feel it will be Jackson – Kindley – Deiter – Hunt – Eichenberg when the dust settles. I do think there’s an outside chance that Jesse Davis starts at RT early but I think/hope that Eichenberg takes the spot.

GO DOLPHINS!!!

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1,390 Responses to Center of attention

  1. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I find it interesting when fans constantly rag on our players even when they’re performing well. Go team!!!!

  2. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Bears have some good DB’s. Will be fun to see how they defend all our speed. Though things will be kind of vanilla. Of course, run game as well.

  3. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Not sure if this will pop up, but first depth chart is out. Doaks as the last RB and Wilson ahead of Waddle among other things.

    https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTgzMDM1MDA3MDM4NjYxOTg0/screen-shot-2021-08-09-at-50839-pm.webp

  4. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I was going to post this yesterday but I got busy and lost track. Anybody hear Isaac Bruce’s HOF speech the other day? He was talking about some of his imaginary friends growing up in South Florida…

    Start at the 6:50 mark and hit play 😀

  5. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, it’s Wilson and Shaheen.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      What did Shaheen do? Seems like a good guy to me, especially since with was cool doing the health prevention protocols cause unvaccinated. He bad mouth a teammate or two?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        No it’s all David’s perception. Wilson is a waste of space and Shaheen not getting vaccinated means he doesn’t care about his teammates. It’s the world according to David. LOL

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Wish I’d known we were just talking about something David said from the start on this one. He obviously has a most unique and different view on things.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I thought it was obvious from his recent rants about the same thing over and over. I root for all of our players so it’s strange to me how some fans harp on the negative even if they’re performing well.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        You assumed I read David’s posts. Wouldn’t tag his thoughts to all fans.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I didn’t assume anything about you, I put it out there for everyone thinking it was obvious to most or all that at least saw it and knew what I meant. It’s not really a big deal though.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        And that’s cool… wasn’t blaming you for anything at all. Just saying didn’t read David’s posts on this.

  6. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    M , I really enjoyed Isaacs call out of the unnamed voice that called him pre draft telling him was not good enough … I pray God has left you on earth for this day , How Ya Like Me Now ….

  7. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, the other day after Hunter Long was carted off the field you stated that you didn’t think we needed him anyway. I think the reason we drafted him is we have roles for multiple TEs in our offense so you need depth. Let’s say we keep 4, if we lose one we’re down to 3 and if another guy gets hurt and will miss a few weeks, we’re down to 2. Now we can’t do some of the stuff we wanted to run and we now need to go to the scrap heap for depth. That’s just the way I see it.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Yes, you’re talking about the ‘Ace’ package (or ’12-personnel’). I didn’t try to minimalize Hunter Long (as I said, hopefully, he’s going to be alright), and I do see the vision for having drafted him.

      I’m a HUGE fan of Gesicki, so my thoughts dwelled on re-signing him ASAP. I see a lot of fans thinking that Long is going to be the replacement for Gesicki, wanting Gesicki to walk into FA.

      That’s all that was about. Can’t change who we drafted, and I hope Long didn’t suffer anything too serious. If we want our ‘Ace’ package to work (that’s probably why we drafted Long), we need him back sooner than later.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The thing is Gesicki is a receiver, that’s his bread and butter. He’s mostly a vertical and red zone guy though, not a savvy route runner like a Travis Kelce. He’s not a blocker though he has to do it at times, even WRs have to block at times. Then you have guys like Smythe and Shaheen who are more prototypes that can block, run some short and intermediate routes, play H-back and fullback roles. You need TEs like that. I believe the team thought Long can also be one of them but a better overall receiver as well.

        I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything about Long’s injury yet. I almost feel like that might be a good thing though. If he really tore up his knee you would think we’d know already. Maybe it’s not that severe but could miss a few weeks. Hoping for the best like all of us.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Agreed… if it were anything serious regarding Long, I think we’d have heard something definitive (ie: ACL, MCL, etc) the day after the injury. I think that’s a positive sign as well.

  8. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    For those who didn’t see/hear Issac Bruce’s HOF speech I posted above, his imaginary friends back in the day were Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, and his man, Dan Marino!

    That was SO great to hear him say that! Props to Issac Bruce!

  9. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Issac Bruce was – Clayton, Holt was – Duper and Warner wearing #13 who recently put Marino in his Mount Rushmore of QBs was – Marino. What made them the greatest show on turf was Marshall Faulk. He was Tony Nathan 3.0.

  10. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Just food for thought, nothing more. NOT trying to get into a political discussion about COVID, but every side should be heard, in order to make the best and most informed decision possible… am I right? I happen to agree with this doctor’s assessment, as it concurs with my own independent thoughts, prior to hearing this gentleman for the first time today.

    Not only did I learn something from this speech that I hadn’t previously considered/understood, but it generally reinforces my idea that we’re actually causing the virus to mutate via the vax. Gee, who would have thought? LOL

    Please watch…

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Impressive. Impossible for me to discount anything he said.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I agree with him also. Thanks for the info M.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Hes completely misrepresenting what the cdc is saying to make an argument

      He’s actually parroting some of their statements

      The cdc doesn’t say a vaccine is like a magic wand that makes the virus go away. First and foremost the cdc pushes vaccines to stop the spread of a virus or disease not to make it go away.

      We still have polio breakouts every year. And that vaccine has been around for 100years now. The vaccine stops the spread when it gets to heavily vaccinated areas.

      I think some of you need to spend more time reading what the cdc actually says, instead of listening to some guy tell you what the cdc says, then repeating what the cdc actually says like it’s his own

      https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/adults/reasons-to-vaccinate.html

      https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/why.htm

      If you believed the vaccine was some kind of magic trick, that’s on you, not the cdc

      But the data out there unquestionably demonstrates positive results from the vaccinated

      Also, When he’s talking about the high % of people who had the vaccination who got the varian in MA, he’s ignoring that MA has a highly vaccinated population, bolstering those numbers (same as UK)

      The conclusion he made about vaccinated people giving unvaccinated people in the MA covid is absolutely ludicrous. He doesn’t know that. He wasn’t their doctor. He’s a doctor in Indiana talking about hundreds of patients he never met with in MA. He knows very little or nothing about interactions before they contracted covid, he didn’t do any contact tracing and he’s jumping to the conclusion that the vaccinated population caused the unvaccinated population to be infected. That’s not even close to credible. And it’s illogical. We had massive covid outbreaks before a vaccine was ever introduced – why is MA any different post-vaccine. Its almost like you guys forgot 2020 happened. We had covid before there wasn’t a vaccine, now some one is arguing that the vaccine caused the unvaccinated to get it…wtf

      But worst of all take everything he said as fact and recognize how bleak that is and what it means. The idea that covid is never going to eliminated and the new normal means you should be wearing masks all the time, and avoiding other people – and i guaranty some of the people celebrating this guy don’t want mask mandates or closures either. But that’s what’s going to be necessary if vaccines are not successful at slowing down the spread of the virus so that 9t is as a practical matter eliminated

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I seriously wish you guys would approach skepticism about his argument with the ferocity you apply to your skepticism about the vaccines

  11. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Word for the night: anti-Stratfordian.

  12. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Generally, I’ve always held a similar position on vaccinations for the flu. And, more specifically why would you knowingly put a virus, a deadly one at that, in your body.

    I also would agree that if you have COVID why would you need to be vaccinated, too. You already have the antibodies and your body is typically smarter than science.

    However, I’m pretty certain he didn’t say the vaccine causes the virus to mutate nor did he suggest it.

    Viruses mutate/adapt to survive all by themselves. When it runs out of hosts to infect/propagate it “disappears.” It’s pretty simple, in that regard. They mutate in vaccinated, as well as, unvaccinated hosts. One’s vaccination status is irrelevant to the natural order of virus evolution, imo.

    I will leave it at that for a 3 AM post after waking up at 2 and can’t go back to sleep. I guess I can do a little work without interruptions…..lol.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Lost my follow up comments on why I never got the flu vaccines. Not sure how it got deleted. Oh well.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Had to do with the nature of viruses, a mismatch of vaccine to current strain of flu, fear porn, and money grab. It was well written, too. Lmao!

  13. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 9, 2021 at 8:26 pm
    M13, the other day after Hunter Long was carted off the field you stated that you didn’t think we needed him anyway. I think the reason we drafted him is we have roles for multiple TEs in our offense so you need depth.
    ___________________________________________________

    The reason we drafted Long was to have an all around T.E., one that can be a rec threat as well as a good blocker, Gesicki doesn’t fit that mold. he’s not a good blocker therefore he telegraphs our intentions when he’s in the game.
    there’s a reason Gesicki hasn’t had his contract addressed as of yet.

  14. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I agree the TE position could be upgraded, but thinking it’s to replace Gesicki and not Smythe or Shaheen is odd to me. I would replacing Gesicki v others would be downgrading the position.

  15. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    the problem with gesicki is he gives away our position due to his lack of blocking ability, when he’s in there D’s play pass, which makes it harder to have offensive success. takes the element of surprise away.
    he’s in the final year of his 4 year deal, i would assume they would have already tried to renegotiate his contract had they wanted him to stick around.
    that speaks for itself.

  16. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Agree, even so it telegraphs a pass play, so what. No one can really cover him, catches everything thrown to him, high points, and opens up the offense.

    Perhaps, Gesicki won’t be back. However, I believe Flores was in NE when Gronk and A hernandez. So there”s that.

  17. Tim Knight says:
    August 9, 2021 at 8:00 pm
    No it’s all David’s perception. Wilson is a waste of space and Shaheen not getting vaccinated means he doesn’t care about his teammates. It’s the world according to David. LOL
    ————————————————————————————————————————-
    WTF is your problem Tim?

    i never said part time was a waste of space

    and you misquoted, misrepresented my comments on shaheen as well

    im correct in what i said about both players, your twisted bullshit is incorrect

    do yourself a favor, and speak for yourself, and ill speak for myself

    are you not capable of commenting on the Dolphins yourself?

    i will not waste my time clarifying those comments, nor any others for You, because you would for sure twist that into something incorrect

  18. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Gesicki’s presence in the lineup telegraphing plays says more about the OC calling the plays than it does Gesicki as a player and if anyone’s bothered actually watching the games the past season they’ll see that Gesicki is a good blocker and it’s something he’s improved on since he got here. Besides, a TE’s primary function is to catch passes, especially on downs needed for converting for firsts, or in the endzone for scoring. He’s here to move chains and catch touchdowns.

    According to this website,
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/2020_splits.htm
    We had 732 snaps from shotgun as opposed to 287 under center. I would expect that to telegraph our intentions more than Gesicki in the lineup.

  19. Tim, are You one of the editors now? adding comments by editing and misrepresenting?

    are you the one that pretended to be me a few days ago, with Your comments on not posting bikini babes, pretending to be Me?

    You seriously need to butt out, speak for yourself, under your own name, which BTW < really isnt your real name,

    my perception is what you say, and your name, is fake

  20. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    🐕💩🖕

  21. just wanted to say that i have not talked of politics, because some said they didnt want to hear it.

    its called respect for others.

    but i can defend myself against people with fake names, like tim, saying fake shit, like tim,

    if phin dog doesnt approve of that, then he needs to talk to Tim and tell him to shut up, because i will always keep it real , even when fakes like tim dont

  22. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Was watching some 80s videos yesterday and one of my favorite songs came on, Private Idaho

  23. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    David stop playing the butt hurt card. It gets tiring

  24. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The following players can play at least these positions:

    Davis can play anywhere, but C

    Hunt RG, RT

    Kindley RG, LG

    Eichenberg LG, RT, LT

    Deiter C, LG

    Skura C, G

    Jackson LT, RT?

    They seem to like Eluemunor and Pankey has been getting good reviews in camp, and we drafted Larnel.

    I’m sure the FO is just trying to better the OL any chance they get, so they talk to lots of teams about OL and other positions, doing their due diligence.

    If they find a trade, that benefits the team they make it, and they did have Wilson and Fluker in, so they could quite possibly be looking for another OT

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      DIdn’t know Skura could play guard. We have all 4 of the non-center positions covered so long as we have enough bodies. And one more we have some trust in would be good.

  25. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Full disclosure … My real name is not Naplesfan.

  26. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Here’s the fun fact I was referring to the other day as to one of the reasons I’ve been missing off here.

    After 46 years, I put in my notice, finalized everything for a couple months, and officially retired as of June 30.

  27. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Matthew Jackson (BMI 26.9)
    ·
    20h
    Reports are coming out of bengals camp that Jamaar Chase isn’t getting much separation.. which is crazy because if you watched him in college he didn’t get much separation there either

  28. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Joe Schad
    @schadjoe
    ·
    17h
    Albert Wilson listed first-team on the Dolphins’ depth chart tells you how good he’s been this spring and summer

  29. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Dolphin Nation
    @Dolphin_Nation
    ·
    15h
    Sun Sentinel’s Omar Kelly says Tua is far more polished than Ryan Tannehill and Chad Henne

    “Tagovailoa is making decisions quickly, his accuracy and touch passes have been on display, and his feel for pressure has been good”

  30. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    𝙁𝙞𝙣𝙨Dolphin
    @FinsPhanatics
    ·
    17h
    I’ll say this again…..

    Jaylen Waddle continues to impress me everyday out here at practice. Dude is a STUD. #FinsUp

  31. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Congratulations Naples, enjoy your retirement 🐬🥃😎

  32. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Gesicki has been taken off the covid list

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      That’s weird. Seems should have been either two days and off (like the other two TEs) if he didn’t have it or longer than has been if he did.

  33. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Alejandro Flag of Colombia
    @MiamiAlejandro
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    22h
    Jaylon Johnson first play vs Jaylen Waddle:

    He’s the Bears CB

  34. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I am envious Naples

  35. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Re: Chase, That is why I was not high on him in the draft. He was just a piece of a bigger puzzle. He had an accurate and smart gun slinging QB. Two other stand out receivers in Jefferson and Terrace Marshall and arguably the most dynamic RB in college football on that same dream team. Opting out last year was the smartest thing he could have done after everyone else left for the draft and only one returning was Marshall.

    Do I think he is a very good receiver? Hell yeah but think he was hyped into a top 10 pick. IMO

  36. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Wonder why they are staying so quiet about Hunter Long?

  37. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    ocalarob says:
    August 10, 2021 at 6:17 am (Edit)
    Tim Knight says:
    August 9, 2021 at 8:26 pm
    M13, the other day after Hunter Long was carted off the field you stated that you didn’t think we needed him anyway. I think the reason we drafted him is we have roles for multiple TEs in our offense so you need depth.
    ___________________________________________________

    The reason we drafted Long was to have an all around T.E., one that can be a rec threat as well as a good blocker, Gesicki doesn’t fit that mold. he’s not a good blocker therefore he telegraphs our intentions when he’s in the game.
    there’s a reason Gesicki hasn’t had his contract addressed as of yet.

    *****

    Long, who lead the ncaa in receptions for a tight end, isn’t exactly the all around TE you are making him out to be.

    I’m pretty sure the reason the Dolphins drafted Long was to add another receiving threat – I don’t think there is a concern that a receiving TE telegraphs a passing play.

    It’s true that Gesicki is like another receiver out there and that Long may be a little more versatile bc in 2019 he played in a run heavy BC team – but Long wasn’t really known as a blocking TE at BC as far as I know. More like a great receiver who played in run heavy offenses before.

    I don’t think the Dolphins have the same vision of our offense as you have.

  38. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Congrats Naples

    Retirement party time!

  39. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Cuomo to resign

  40. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That would be a miracle🙏

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      They used the cart on a knee injury and some surgery is happening. And is Long a guy we’d use an early return IR designation on? Early reports would have to be wrong for him to be back, especially since he’s a rook with stuff to learn still.

  41. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  42. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  43. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  44. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Well, the 1.2 trillion infrastructure bill passed the Senate today. (The Bi-partisan one, wait what!?)

    Glad I will be dead already when that bill comes due….

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Big fan of that bill and loved that it was spearheaded by Democratic and Republican Senators working together. Shows to me maybe they can get stuff done in the normal way.

      Cause of that a lot cheaper than at first proposed and they at least say is revenue neutral. Others say no it isn’t, but there is no doubt they were pulling existing billions out of ever nook and cranny they could to help pay for it.

      Either way, not over yet. House has already said will use as a political hostage unless the much larger non-infrastructure infrastructure bill is passed.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Why are you OK with a bill that is 90% fluff? One that swampy politicians get fat on from kickbacks

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        How Stanger sees biden

        👼

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        steve — cause it it is not 90% “fluff” unless you count bridges and roads in an infrastructure as that. Like the last time brought up and you said price tag is 3 trillion dollars…. it is one trillion. Do you have your bills confused? I am not in favor of the 3 trillion Democrat bill if that helps.

        And McConnell supports this bill and 19 GOP senators voted for it. Not just about Biden.

  45. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    If we don’t like Eich for RT, then just put Hunt back at RT and let Eich and Kindley play OG

    There’s a retarded article out saying we’re looking for a starting RT and here’s 9 that would work.

    Most of which are worse than what we have

  46. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    it’s not a 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill, only 100 billion goes to infrastructure, the rest goes to left wing wasteful spending

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      No politics. Go back to your Tua bashing 😉

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Orob — you consider Road safety, Passenger and freight rail, Water infrastructure, Clean water, Environmental clean-up and Power infrastructure spending wasteful?

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Don’t go down the rabbit hole 🐰

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You really think there’s no fluff in this bill?

        More fluff than infrastructure

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Just read a dem slanted article that says 550b toward infrastructure, they aren’t even trying to hide it.

        And that’s just what they’re putting in the bill, let’s see howbthey actually spend the money.

        Obama had 1b for infrastructure and he only used 10% on infrastructure the rest went to his programs

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        steve — please point out where said there was no fluff in the bill. Would be shocked if there isn’t. Only disagreed when you said was 90% fluff. For a simple reason…. it isn’t.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        First I’m hearing you say there’s fluff, was under the impression you didn’t think there was.

        There’s a dem outlet saying there’s more than 50% fluff, the ones I read from the other side say as much as 90%, probably somewhere in the middle.

        Even at 50% why are you a big fan of the bill?

        We’re back to swampy politics from some on the right, that’s a reason it’s bipartisan, others think they need to pass something and it’s better than the 3t bill biden wants

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        From the dem side guess they don’t consider “clean energy” or GND stuff to be fluff

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        steve — what I write is what I write and try to be careful with my words. Upstream for you to see. How did you get that impression?

        And seems what is fluff or not is pretty darn subjective, but even at your 50% am a big fan of the bill. As are the 19 GOP Senators who voted for it. And see infrastructure as different than those Covid checks both Trump and Biden sent out. An investment in the future.

  47. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Fucking Stanger 😆

  48. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Wow Andrew Cuomo resigned. I never thought he would because he’s so arrogant.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Just goes to show you what can happen, when the powerful people that used to be on your side have no choice, but to cut ties and condemn you to save face

  49. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think any offense benefits from having 2 good TEs. It allows you to do more things and take advantage of more mismatches and disguise things better…especially if those TEs are truly both adept at both phases of the game. No offense to whomever said this but Geisicki is not a good blocker. I’d say he’s okay FOR a catching TE, but not overall. I would say he’s not a liability and that’s a win in the NFL these days. I think he’s been doing exactly what they drafted him to do…and he’s still learning and should get better. I’d hang onto him, if I could. You can get mismatches with him most weeks.

  50. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    As an ATX, pseudo UT fan, Sam Ehlinger, local HS QB, is splitting 1st reps for Colts QB.

    lol…random, but news to me!

  51. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Congratulations Naples! Happy for ya my man! Enjoy it all

  52. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Naples,

    Congrats on your retirement, buddy!

  53. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Yeah, we really need to look at the fluff in that bill to see where the BS is. Also with these bills they stick other shit in there as well. Sen. Cruz was talking about something that would kill crypto currency. I am not into that shit so have no clue. That is unless they cut it out or whatever.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      To politics…..Ted Cruz is a piece of shit. He only cares about himself and doesn’t even stick up for his wife. Total slime in my book….per my 20 years of observing him in TX.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      You don’t need to look at anything now, except for winning elections by running good candidates

      It passed

      19 Republican senators voted for it

      Most of the stuff you guys call fluff is stuff Democrats want. And that’s the consequences of losing elections. It’s not so hard to generate support from 20 senators, so when the power shifts to a party you don’t like – you kind of have to suck it up.

      Democrats aren’t going to pass stuff you want when you aren’t going to vote for them anyway. They are going to pass stuff I want….lol

      Instead of running candidates that try to own the libs by making inflammatory statements, run candidates that can actually win independents and moderates

  54. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    August 10, 2021 at 2:59 pm
    steve — cause it it is not 90% “fluff” unless you count bridges and roads in an infrastructure as that. Like the last time brought up and you said price tag is 3 trillion dollars…. it is one trillion. Do you have your bills confused? I am not in favor of the 3 trillion Democrat bill if that helps…
    ————-
    Stanger, Pelosi has made it quite clear that she will shelve this bill upon arrival to the House and instead go forward with the $3T bill.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Last I heard she said would not pass the bipartisan bill unless the $3 trillion bill was passed. In news articles today. Did she say something new?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Ya read what I typed… but perhaps there is confusion. Are you saying ya heard that Pelosi will pass the $1T bill on top of and only if the $3T bill passes… for a grand total of $4T?

        I may have been misinformed if THAT is the case! WOW. Yeah, I heard she’d shelve the $1T bill and instead try to pass the $3T bill.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        I said up above: “Either way, not over yet. House has already said will use as a political hostage unless the much larger non-infrastructure infrastructure bill is passed.” As far as I know nothing has changed on that. And yeah perhaps you have been misinformed. What is in each bill does not match up with the other. Where are you getting your info on this?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        So you’re telling me that we’re potentially looking at $4T being spent on ‘infrastructure’, with (low-balling here) 50% filled with pet projects?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        That is what Pelosi and the left side of the Dems are shooting for, but Manchin has already said “not at that price at least” and only way they get the big bill done is through reconciliation, which means they need all 5 0 Dem Senators on board. You can google and read some articles about it.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Man, that’s preposterous. I believe you, man… I’m just sayin’, we can’t afford to spend $4T, let alone give either side of the aisle a blank check for (50%, low-balling) $2T.

        Pelosi is nucking futs.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Manchin has already said won’t happen. So it won’t. Why worry about it? Was really just a bargaining stance to start with anyhow.

  55. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Every Team’s Best & Worst Case Scenario for the 2021 Season
    1:31:58 – Miami Dolphins

  56. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Congrats, Naples!

  58. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Still no updates on Hunter Long’s injury.

  59. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I don’t know why we, as a country, have a problem with bringing our nation, supposedly the richest on the planet, to a modern 2030 infrastucture to be the envy of the planet.

    We can fly people on dicks to outer space, but can’t fill pot holes. Shameful, imo.

    I’m trying to figure out the revisionist history on Obama’s infrastrucure plan that McConell promised would never happen.

    I thought the fuzzy math and short memory were afflictions of old fucks like me…guess not. Lmao!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Because both parties are focused on too much other nonsense, including shaming each other. They’re like children in a sandbox.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      There are general reasons to limit spending as a whole

      It’s taxpayer $ at the end of the day

      So where we spend it and how much we spend is always a legit topic if you ask me

      I don’t necessarily disagree with your comment
      But generally speaking, there are legit reasons why people don’t want to spend more as a whole and also reasons why people don’t want to spend on this topic.

      the problem is screaming “socialism” doesn’t really resonate as well as people think

      So the tone of politics right now doesn’t invite mature conversations about spending and where we spend

      It’s not like this bill has high speed rail or anything – I tend to think the affect will go unnoticed

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        It’s not just about “socialism” but anti-capitalism. A great disconnect has been created by lots of ignorance.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I agree

        We don’t have to a debate about what “ism” it is to make smart decisions in terms of spending

  60. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Gesicki being on the field does not tip our hand because we do run when he’s on the field.

    Randy, you think he’s only okay for a catching TE? He’s made some amazing catches. He also had the 6th most yards for TEs last year at 13.3 YPCA with 6 TD. I think he’s above average as a receiving TE.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It seems the team wants to see if Gesicki can take it to another level before re-signing him. He may want that option too before signing a middle of the road contract. He’s in a play for pay contract season.

  61. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, a good name for a band would be The Fuckisms.

  62. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    If Gesicki was on another team you’d all be creaming for him. Problem is, he plays for us so you take him for granted

  63. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Here’s a fun little rating game. Who do you think are our best 10 players? I’m thinking about it too. 😉

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      At the moment or potentially?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I’m doing right now from what we know. No rookies. We have a lot of young players who could change my list this year.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      1, Howard
      2. Byron Jones
      3. Tua (suck it)
      4. Wilkins
      5. Baker
      6. Gesicki
      7. Ogbah
      8. Raekwon Davis
      9. Parker
      10. Waddle

      I don’t have any OL here, I have to see how this group comes together

      I picked waddle based on expectations but I didn’t want to put any newcomers here: Phillips, McKinney, Holland, Albert Wilson, Will Fuller or any one on the OL can easily shoot up this list if they contribute this year

  64. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    August 10, 2021 at 7:55 pm
    Manchin has already said won’t happen. So it won’t. Why worry about it? Was really just a bargaining stance to start with anyhow.
    ————-
    And Manchin wouldn’t sell out if the price is right, via lobbyists and special interests… or peer pressure/threats from his own party? C’mon, Bro, you’re smarter than that (being quite honest, giving you due respect).

    Agreed that it was a bargaining stance to start with, but we’re talking about the lunatic Pelosi, who is also under pressure from the youth movement in her own party to over-deliver.

    Yes, it’s something to worry about, being the Dems have the White House, the House, and the tie-breaking split in the Senate.

    I think(?) I like Joe Manchin… but I don’t trust politicians in general: they can be bought.

  65. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    X, Jones, Baker, Sanders, Gesicki, Ogbah, Parker, Fuller, McKinney, Wilkins

  66. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Xavien Howard
    Jerome Baker
    Byron Jones
    Emmanuel Ogbah
    Benardrick McKinney
    DeVante Parker
    Christian Wilkins
    Mike Gesicki
    Jason Sanders
    Myles Gaskin

  67. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I just went by the players as they are now. If I was going by potential, Davis, Waddle and Phillips are on that list

  68. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 10, 2021 at 8:45 pm
    Here’s a fun little rating game. Who do you think are our best 10 players? I’m thinking about it too. 😉
    ———–
    I’ll play, with no rookies… and not necessarily in the order I’m listing them…

    1: X
    2: Baker
    3: AVG
    4: Tua
    5: DeVante (healthy)
    6: Byron
    7: Wilkins
    8: Fuller
    9: Gesicki
    10: Wilson

  69. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tua, waddle, Davis, Eichenberg, Jackson, Hunt, Kindley, Phillips, Holland, Jones (the safety), Iggy

    The future is now….lol

  70. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I think we all are pretty on top of it with a few different views. It wasn’t the only good players we have, just the top 10 as of now. There is plenty of good young players where the future looks bright as well as some vet role players that make us a better team.

  71. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    IF our O-Line can gel — and as young as the unit is collectively — we could be in for a pleasant surprise this year.

    I really like Gaskin and Ahmed, but I feel we lack a true game-changer at the RB position. We’ll see what happens…

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Most teams don’t have that true game-changer at the RB position. There aren’t many of them.

      Gaskin 3rd year drafted under the Flores regime 7th round in 2019 and Ahmed 2nd year signed as UDFA both from the same school – Washington. They both have similar builds in that 5-10 200 range. Gaskin seems to be tougher between the tackles and Ahmed quicker and faster, but both can run and catch. Pass pro is key for both of them. They seem to be a fit for the offense we’re building around Tua. Then you add Brown, Scarlett and Doaks as the bigger more physical backs. Not to leave Laird out, but he’s kind of a tweener receiver and STs guy. Not sure if he fits, but maybe he does.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I suppose what I’m getting at is this: if our O-Line rocks, we don’t need to pay a RB $10M/year. I’m really liking Gaskin and Ahmed, but their success is contingent upon the success of our O-Line.

        It would be GRAND if our O-Line is so great that we can plug any RB behind it and expect spectacular results.

        By the way, RIP to Alex Gibbs, who passed away last month.

  72. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    We’ve got two players on our team who ALWAYS get more yardage than the average man could get. They FIGHT HARD for every single inch they can get: Myles Gaskin and Albert Wilson.

  73. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I don’t see any game changers at RB….lol.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      You DO realize that you’re approaching troll-level posts, right? If not, I’m here to tell you that you are.

      Rationale: we had the #22 rushing-Offense last season.

      Please try to pay attention in the future, and realize that if our O-Line becomes great, so can Gaskin and Ahmed.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        If I read you the wrong way, my apologies. But that ‘lol’ seemed to be a stab at me, being I said I don’t see any game-changing RBs on our roster.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        To mf13ss,

        Seriously with the troll comments…..ok, i’m your troll. Deal with it.

        Every time you say or put some stupid shit out there, I will “troll” you…lol….like I do with anyone.

        WTF, you’re the scientist…lmao.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      In general or on our team?

  74. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, agreed on the OL. If they can do their job where it’s solid – they don’t have to be dominant, this offense will make plays and score points.

    One thing we know for sure, we’re building around a lot of young players and that has been Grier and Flores’ approach from day one. They know it’s on them. That’s the job.

    This season should be fun, there is so much new that we really don’t know yet. LOL

  75. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    The Dolphin game changers will be the aerial aspect of this offense with help from the OL and a better scheme, imo.

    Just don’t see the run game as a strength…..show me.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think our rushing and screen game from the backs will be productive this year because of the speed in the receiving game. We all know it’s about staying healthy but on paper – Parker, Fuller, Wilson, Waddle and Gesicki is not an easy cover. Stack the box and take your chances in man coverage, opponents will have a difficult time matching up. Then the quick twitch backs Gaskin and Ahmed tear you up both rushing and receiving. 🙂

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I think that’s the plan from Flores and his coaches. RPO with Tua but also morph into a power rush team when needed. The multiple, it’s not just on defense.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Ok…lots of thoughts on that, but bottom line our go to, unfortunately, short and 3rd and 4th should be money. Is it with a run play?

        We shall see.

  76. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, Flores doesn’t coach stats, he wants to win. He cut his teeth winning in NE. If a player or two has a great year, fantastic!!! But he’s coaching winning as a team in all three phases. That’s what I’m seeing so far.

    Tua is the key though this year. QB always is.

  77. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    TK, I agree, he knows how to win. He participated and was instrumental in developing a dynasty. I hate saying that he did that for NE.

    Let him do his thing…..we’re watching you Flores. For me, I like what I see and the progress.

  78. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Remember this, Benardrick McKinney is playing for a big payday too. We’ve got a few guys doing that. This season will tell us what this team is now and in the future.

    This 17 game season is new. We could start off 5-4 and finish 7-1. Not impossible. We don’t know what this team is yet.

    I think the OL is key as many have said.

  79. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’ll just say this… Gaskin seems like a guy who will be productive, he always has been when given the opportunity.

  80. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    The OL is key to the extent Tua can perform. It starts up front, imo.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Last year went 10-6. 6-3 with Tua as a starter and 4-3 with Fitz. The OL struggled a lot of the time. We lacked speed. Uh-hem!

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Uh-hem….I would submit our D and ST deserve more of the credit for that record.

        I know you know there are 3 phases of this game…2 out of 3 ain’t bad…..lol.

  81. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Forget about defense and special teams, forget our fast wr’s.

    maybe a great run game may help.

    This season will come down to the QB play, that will determine the success or lack thereof, it his Flores 3rd year with the team, no coach in recent memory has lasted more than 4 years.

    after watching Tua get stymied last year with the defensive rush blocking him from getting the ball to his rec, (see the 3 sub 100 yard passing games) not sure how you fix that?
    opposing DC’s know this.

    they will crowd the rec’s and make Tua spend time waiting for a rec to get open so their rush can get up field to block Tua’s throwing motion.

    he’s too short and to add to that his release is too low, he can’t throw the ball over the people in front of him.

  82. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I think every team has weaknesses and maybe the run game will be ours. As long as Flores can work around the weaknesses, we should be ok. The players say the co-OCs are working around what they have so let’s see how it goes. Brady’s Bucs had weaknesses and they really were fortunate to win. GB should have beat them. KC lost their OL at the perfect time. Tom had some rough games. They pulled it all together though even with their weaknesses. Lots of talented teams but only one can win.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s not just that we don’t have any game breaking RBs
      It’s that our OL was bad in the run game last year

      But this unit has plenty of upside to make a dramatic 180

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      One problem I have with a dominant RB is teams force it with said back too much.

      It’s great when things are rolling like we saw with Ajayi, but 10-6 and now 11-6 seem to be the result.

      Titans are a good example of this.

      With that said, if we can get a little more consistency running the ball, we can use it to keep teams honest, then pass as we want without teams pulling their ears back rushing Tua.

      Saw a stat yesterday some maroon put out there about Tua when pressured, it wasn’t good, but that was last year and most QBs do a lot worse under pressure, so it really wasn’t a news flash.

      We play 3 phase football with good and not great players, that stay focused, and use the scheme to put guys in position to succeed, and have the ability to win high scoring games as much as low scoring

  83. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I guess first round of cuts should be Tua, Wilson and Shaheen. lol

  84. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Looking at the lists of our top 10 players was really depressing

    Guess we’re really thin at the top, more than I thought

    Good thing our system isn’t based on having a trio of stars

    Look at KC with Mahomes, Hill, Kelce, and Chris Jones at the top and it makes me cringe

    Buffalo and some other teams do the same

  85. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Joe Schad
    @schadjoe
    I spoke with one source who said Dolphins TE Hunter Long’s injury is not believed to be season-ending. So it does sound as if it may not be as bad as appeared when Long was carted off with a lower-body injury Sunday.
    9:58 AM · Aug 10, 2021

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Good. Let him take his time to recover and maybe we will see him get some playing time by November or December so we can get an idea of what we have

  86. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob, you’re too focused on last season, Tua’s rookie season, one with no training camp or preseason. Can you wait until he plays this season and we see how he looks?

  87. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Well i’m running down the road try’n to loosen my load….i’ve got seven woman on my mind.

    four that want to sue me….two that wouldn’t do me…one hopes i do major time.

    Andrew Cuomo’s new hit song

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I have more the 7 women on my mind
      No shame in that

      The problem is shitting where you eat at the workplace

      Also, here’s one for Matt Gaetz

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        so if he shit on other woman that are not in his workplace….. that’s ok?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        No. You know That’s not what I said

        If you want to be a dick, be a dick on your own

        This conversation is over

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        The Gaetz stuff started in a flurry but then not too much at all. Wonder what the pause is about. Could be can’t be proven or could be has turned actual criminal. Funny how the pause means each extreme more likely .

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        It would appear you’ve narrowed down his problem, what else is one to assume with that statement?
        __________________________________________
        The Flying Pig says:
        August 11, 2021 at 11:24 am
        The problem is shitting where you eat at the workplace

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        or it could be another leftwing political stunt to defame those who oppose them.
        but don’t let innocent until proven guilty get in your way of posting stupid music videos.
        _________________________________________________________
        stangerx says:
        August 11, 2021 at 11:52 am
        The Gaetz stuff started in a flurry but then not too much at all. Wonder what the pause is about. Could be can’t be proven or could be has turned actual criminal. Funny how the pause means each extreme more likely

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        ORob — guess it could be that as well, but some of the info that came out about Gaetz least wasn’t warm and fuzzy. Seems criminal or not depends on the ages of some of the girls. Nothing illegal about paying the expenses of a young woman on a fun vacation even if questionable.

        Feel no need to put out a music video…. and not sure why you encouraged me to do that.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        half the reply was to you, the music video was directed at my good friend piggy

  88. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The OL will be a big reason we have success running the ball and why think they moved Hunt to RG, but even bigger reason will be the affect the receivers and Tua have.

    Think Gaskin and Ahmed are mostly who we saw last year, with Brown and Doaks being the newcomers, we don’t know yet what to expect.

    Flores has mentioned the speed at WR will help the run game.

    Running the ball is a team thing, at least it is with our stable of backs, it will only be as good as the team allows it to be, we aren’t going to see someone breakout to make it substantially better.

    One of our backs may have great numbers, but it will be the result of the team effort

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      My main reason is that box will not be stuffed except in short yardage situations. Makes a huge difference. Waddle starts moving around and people will be following.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Yeah, that’s the hope, but going to be a collective effort.

        Just keep them honest, Buffalo didn’t worry about the run

  89. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Drink diet Mountain Dew and drink beer. Maybe only need to drink one thing starting in early 2022.
    ———————-
    “Boston Beer Company is adding another drink to its portfolio, a spiked version of Mountain Dew.

    On Tuesday, the company announced its partnership with PepsiCo to deliver HARD MTN DEW, with 5 percent alcohol. The boozy beverage will come in three flavors: original, black cherry and watermelon, and is expected to hit shelves in early 2022.”

  90. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    ocalarob says:
    August 11, 2021 at 11:58 am (Edit)
    It would appear you’ve narrowed down his problem, what else is one to assume with that statement?
    __________________________________________
    The Flying Pig says:
    August 11, 2021 at 11:24 am
    The problem is shitting where you eat at the workplace

    ****
    If you were a smarter person, you would be able to assume a lot more than what you did

    I cant speak to your capacity, but it is consistently lesser than others, and your assumptions about what another person meant are a reflection of your stupidity rather than what that person actually meant

    This is a you problem ORob

    Don’t ask me to explain how not to be a narrow minded jerk – you need to work on that on your own time

  91. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  92. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    HC Brian Flores Wednesday August 11 media availability
    8:59 AM · Aug 11, 2021·Twitter Web App
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    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
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    Coach says everyone made the trip (players).
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
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    @WingfieldNFL
    DeVante Parker, Will Fuller, Albert Wilson and Hunter Long will not be practicing.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    2h
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    @WingfieldNFL
    The Dolphins staff will work the next few days to finalize the playing time for Saturday. “Guys will play,” Coach said.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    2h
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    Tua Taogvailoa will play in the game Saturday.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
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    @WingfieldNFL
    There are rules of engagement between the Dolphins and Bears — no fighting, no cut blocks, things of that nature. We want good work and competition but at the same time we want to keep everyone safe and healthy.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
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    Jaelan Phillips will be back on the practice field today.

  93. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Matt Gaetz was implicated in soliciting underage women for sex after his associate Joel Greenberg plead guilty to trafficking and admitted providing those women to his associates

    You can read Greenberg’s guilty plea here

    It doesn’t exactly fit the mold of a political witch-hunt

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      It most certainly does as far as Gaetz goes.

      They’ve been trying to frame him on shit for a while now, just like they did with Trump.

      You go against the left and they use whatever means they have to take you down.

      100% witchhunt

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        No one is saying Andrew Coumo was framed. Why do you assume that’s what they are trying to do to Gaetz?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        This isn’t a new story, and not an assumption, it’s from Gaetz he’s said reasons why they’re trying to frame him on FoxNews

        Cuomo was like AL Capone, who killed people, but was brought down on something else he did that wasn’t as serious

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Didn’t know Gaetz had said did nothing wrong. If a politician accused of doing something says he didn’t what better proof is there? That federal prosecutors started looking into under the Trump administration is obviously a witch hunt at that point. Wish had your certainty in life at times.

  94. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  95. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I guess I’m the only one in the world that thinks that slide is dumb, lol.

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