Wow, so pumped just to be typing the words preseason game 1. COVID-19 wrecked any opportunity to have any preseason at all last year, but this season, we not only get THREE preseason games but we also get an extra regular season game to make it 20 games in total! OK, so preseason isn’t all that, but to me, It’s game action against another team, and I personally believe it’s essential. Practice is practice, against your own guys, but when you face a different team, guys will bring more effort and the competition sparks a little extra than you get in practice. We have such a young team, I think they will benefit from having played these 3 meaningless games. You can laugh all you want at this but Tua not having training camp and preseason games did him no favors last year.
First and foremost we need to come out of the preseason healthy. There are injuries in practice, there are injuries in preseason games and there are injuries in regular season games, but you never want to lose a player before the real season begins. There will be some interesting competitions to watch, not only for starting spots but for roster spots too. There are always surprise cuts and sometimes there are surprises as to who makes the starting roster and this year will be no different. At least this year with training camp, minicamp and the preseason, players will have had a chance to show what they can do and the evaluation process should also be easier for the coaching staff.
I think the most interesting battle in my opinion is the O-line. This is where there is the least rotation and the starting 5 usually get the greater majority of snaps. As of now, the line is as so . . .
LT Jackson
LG Eichenberg
C Deiter
RG Hunt
RT Davis
I’m not buying this, and I believe by the time the season starts it will either be Eichenberg or Hunt at RT. If it’s Hunt then maybe Eichenberg stays at LG, but if Eichenberg gets the RT spot, I think Kindley settles back in at LG. We know the 3 starting DL in the 3-4 alignment are going to be Wilkins, Davis and Ogbah. I think we also know the 4 starting LB’s in that same 3-4 are AVG, McKinney, Baker and Phillips. I know Phillips has had a slow start and it’s possible he may not start the season the season there but I also know they will give him every opportunity to make it happen. With Howard getting his extension we know it will be Howard and Jones, but then the safety battle will be an interesting one. I think Eric Rowe is safe at SS, but does the wily veteran McCourty start the season at FS, or does 2nd year man Brandon Jones get the nod or does the rookie who looked great against the Bears in practice, Jevon Holland steal that spot?
On offense, I feel like health will determine who starts at the skill positions, WR, TE and RB. If healthy, Parker, Fuller and Wilson, all veterans will “start”. There will be tons of opportunities for the others though and that’s where it comes down to the roster crunch. We know Waddle makes 4, so does that leave 2 more spots or 3? Hollins is the gunner on special teams and that’s an important factor as to why he might make the team as he’s a good one. Grant is an electric returner, a playmaker but his suspect hands (on returns and as a WR) may leave him off the roster. What about Lynn Bowden Jr.? We gave up a 4th RD pick last season to acquire Bowden and he showed some promise, especially late in the season. It would be hard to let him go so if we keep 7 WR’s, all of the above should be in. That means veteran Allen Hurns, Robert Foster, Kirk Merritt, Isaiah Ford, Malcolm Perry all gone but a couple may end up on the PS.
Oh, by the way, Gesicki is back! Can’t wait to see him back in action and watch him get his well deserved new contract! So Hunter Long is NOT gone for the season, that’s also great news! That should leave Gesicki, Shaheen, and either Smythe, Carter or Myarick to go along with Long as the 4th TE. At RB, Gaskin is the lead back followed by Malcolm Brown, Ahmed, Scarlet, Laird and Doaks. Hey, what happened to world beater Doaks you were all telling me about? Sorry, had to get that out! I’m guessing we’ll carry 5, maybe 6 so Doaks has a chance to make the roster. We no longer officially have a FB, so we might carry 6 RB’s.
The game is on NFLN tomorrow afternoon at 1PM. I will record it as I will be working unfortunately, but I’ll get around to watching it at some point, I may stay away from this blog so it won’t spoil the viewing. Enjoy the game, it will be nice to see some of our exciting rookie prospects suit up for the first time, and see the growth of our 2nd year QB. Looking forward to it!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
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Brissett now with a rip to Kirk Merritt over the middle for a tough, contested catch.
Page turn bitches!
LOL — was there any doubt today that you owned it?
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Jacoby Brissett to Robert Foster, TD back of the end zone. Miami wins this sort of 11 on 11 sort of scrimmage without tackling 16-10.
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Greg Little working with the Brissett led offense — finishes the day with a really nice rep where he buries the rusher as Brissett steps up and delivers a touchdown to Robert Foster.
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Robert Foster with a back of end zone 10 yard touchdown reception from Brissett. Loved it
I believe practice is over and they are doing interviews now.
Lamest thing ever those interviews.
Can’t hear the question and they aren’t worth answering.
Tua, how do you feel in this O?
Why did you throw the ball into dbl coverage?
Tua, why can’t I come up with a good question instead of same ole?
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We had some mistakes today, communication, we gotta clean that up. It’s stiff you can fix, Eric said.
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Eric Rowe says it’s great to work against a TE like Kyle Pitts who is as big as a TE but moves like a receiver
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The Falcons defense does a great job of disguising looks, Tua says. Says the offense needs to clean up some mistakes but it’s a good chance to work on the entire operation.
Rowe with a PB against Pitts was the best news I heard today, seems he’s legit covering TEs
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Jaylen Waddle says the increased knowledge of the game has been the most beneficial part of camp for him.
I also asked him if the ooo’s and ahh’s in the crowd fire him up. He says he’s so focused he honestly doesn’t hear it.
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Eric Rowe locked down Kyle Pitts today but says the rookie has talent.
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“It’s something I’m used to and excited about. You are going to be able to see me do multiple things,” Jaelan Phillips said.
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“I been sitting, itching, crawling out of my skin to get in,” Jaelan Phillips said of his return to team periods.
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“No particular goals. I’m just working everyday,” Dolphins rookie DE Jaelan Phillips said.
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“I’m just here to plug and play. I’m going to do whatever the coaches as me to do,” Jaelan Phillips said. “I’ll be ready when time comes.”
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Jaelan Phillips: I can kill you with speed. I can kill you with power. “I’m feeling good. I’m getting better every day.” #MiamiDolphins
Sounds like last thing Phillips lacks is confidence. But guess you want that in an edge destroyer.
This provides a few more tidbits that may have been missed.
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NEW: The complete recap of the #MiamiDolphins joint practice with Atlanta, with injury news, highlights (Foster, Rowe), lowlights and other observations, including thoughts on Tua, Jakeem and many more.https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-august-18-training-camp-practice-observations …
I have seen articles saying X and Byron Jones are the 3rd best CB tandem in the NFL. May be, but I will argue that we possibly have the #1 backfield.
With X and Jones on the boundary. A physical Coleman on slot. Rowe locking down TE’s. McCourty at FS. Then you have CB Needham, FS Holland, SS Brandon Jones and Fejedelem, CB’s Iggy, Perry, Davis and Trill Williams who can also play FS.
There are going to be some though cuts. How many DB’s do we keep.
I didn’t list all of them above, just ones I hear having a good camp or are no brainers.
Who are 1 and 2?
Don’t remember the article from about 2 weeks ago.
I was going to say 1 is pee and 2 is poop. lol
Pee and Poop would have been an acceptable answer
Thanks BBM
Welcome!
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1428039878932156416?s=20
Think that will work. 🙂
https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1428046520973107201?s=20
I did not know this:
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#Falcons QB Matt Ryan and #Dolphins coach Brian Flores were teammates at Boston College. “He used to kick my ass on the scout team,” Ryan says of Flores. Ryan added Flores was a good teammate in college, and he’s happy for Flores’ rise in the NFL.
https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1428047024390250501?s=20
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Tua said that was just a conversation about what Jackson is seeing and facing, and what Tua is seeing and facing because O-linemen usually can’t see outside of their 1-on-1 battle.
Folks, Tua is a leader. That’s HIS LINE. He takes ownership.
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Tua is talking to Austin Jackson on the sidelines and it doesn’t look like a pleasant conversation.
Piggy, it was an NFL.com article. Had Pats at #1 and Ravens #2.
https://www.nfl.com/news/top-10-cornerback-duos-entering-2021-nfl-season
JC Jackson?
Wtf
Yeah, I know. That is why I didn’t post the article when I read it.
They do have some tough decisions to make cutting down to 53 but at least our roster is very young and can put 16 on the practice squad.
The first sentence of her breakdown of the pats is that they have 3 CBs in her top
30
Does she know what a duo is?
The number 3 is irrelevant
Then she also says her 2nd highest rated CB is Howard and her 1st is Jaire Alexander who isn’t on either of the two teams above us
Kinda sounds like she doesn’t like Byron Jones much
I know it didn’t make sense. I have liked her writing in the past but this one threw me off.
Also it is unacceptable to be below the rankings of anyone who uses initials as a substitute for a first name!
J.C.!?!
What did you mother name you? She didn’t name you initials!
Pick a first name. Then we can talk about ranking.
PIGGY, RB Stevie Scott cut by the Saints.
Surprised Broncos have already cut DT Lorenzo Neal Jr. Didn’t stick with Saints either who drafted him this year.
Dang QB KJ Costello already cut. He did suck badly last year at Miss. State.
RB Lamar Miller cut by WFT now signed to Pats.
Have a feeling Pats may try to trade or cut Sonny Michal
This time last year I was ready to draft both Stevie smith and Costello…lol
Smith yes, Costello no way. I followed him at Miss. State and I think he even got benched he was stinking it up so bad. D might know more.
I had to fish my underwear out of the pool a little while ago. I am still drawing a blank on that one from last night…
LMAO!
Thanks BBM for the updates!
You wanna know where her panties are now🤪
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Thanks for your support everyone (except ORob). 🤣
Think ORob was just fishing for some way in which businesses couldn’t require masks. Nothing like a hope and a dream….. but wasn’t about you.
In the video above with Gesicki, if he plays physical like that he’ll be a 3rd down machine and our O will be tough to stop
Mike
I’m here to get my eyes examined. Can you help me?
“Rough night?”
“I woke up on my stove…”
lol
I found out the story behind my underwear. I was wearing shorts and underwear but took them off and put shorts back on before going swimming. Left the undies on the patio. Hours later, after many margaritas, I was in the house making coleslaw and my wife said one of the dogs picked up my undies then the other dogs started to chase after him to get them. After a while, he got hot and got on the steps in the pool to cool off. He let go of the underwear to take a drink and they sank to the bottom. Then we ate dinner and she forgot to tell me. What a relief. lol
Happens all the time.
LOL Steve, didn’t think of that!
First I’ve seen Gesicki get physical
BBM was the man with the info today. Thank you for keeping us all informed
No doubt, thanks brother Mike
“Charlie is the one that gives us the plays. He’s the last person that we hear in our headset and whatever discussion goes on between Charlie, Eric (Studesville) and George (Godsey), that’s what they communicate. But the last person that we hear is just Charlie.”
— Tua saying whoever calls the plays they come to him in Charlie Frye’s voice.
Keyshawn Johnson from experience says, having 2 OCs and 1 QB coach is going to be a problem.
At halftime he’ll get 3 different opinions on what he should be doing.
Don’t really see a big difference, if it’s 2 or 3 or even 4 with Flores, because you use hierarchy of HC, passing OC/ running OC based on what they’re talking about, QB coach
I’ve never much respected his opinion. Do we have a bunch of morons running things that won’t have thought about that? No, our guys are smart. Like you said, there will be a hierarchy, and likely only one voice in his ear, just like there is only one voice in his ear calling plays.
I usually don’t respect his opinion, but in this instance he’s seen it before, so I’ll consider it, but Tua isn’t the arrogant prick Ketshawn is
I’d say there’s less than 30% chance of it being a problem and to base something off of 1 event, that happened 20+ years ago…
However they decide has to be done fast. Unless they have changed 45 seconds after a play with a stoppage and they cut off the audio 10 seconds before the snap. And that doesn’t include telling Charlie Frye what the play is and him telling Tua.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-man-sues-after-bear-dumpster-surprises-him
What say our lawyers?
Bears are frequently in the area, so you can’t leave trash cans or dumpsters open, but don’t see where there’s negligence
I think if was more than a nuisance case the guy would be demanding a lot more than 15K after 2 surgeries. Would be real different if the bear was in the dumpster.
Guy saw a bear, freaked out, and hurt himself running away. He’s from Davis, that sounds about right, lol.
lol, Guy walks into a bar and says ouch
The bear wanted me to send this – 🖕
Thanks as well BBM.
Yeah but he doesn’t get a lot of interceptions…,womp womp womp
That’s sick
Awesome!
This better happen at least 20 times a game this season
Those are some major quicks. Wow!!!
Shifty! Decisive and elusive….
Well every team has a QB coach so it is really just one more OC than usual. It sounds like they have their plan with it. The OCs probably already discuss the play and then Frye is the one who communicates it to the QB. It’s not like play-callers just pick plays randomly while on the clock. They have the game plan for game situations so they know what they’re calling. I don’t see it as that complicated. It’s not like 3 yentas will be debating the play. LOL
Lol….like Flores asking the reporters (yentas) ‘what they gain from knowing how it works’. Calls them out on their yentaness…
LOL
I really like Flores! He’s the man as far as I can tell.
Haven’t seen a coach like him on this Dolphin team for quite some time!
Agreed. Him along with his coaches seem to really coach players up well. They don’t make a lot of mistakes, penalties etc. and they get a lot out of their depth chart. Do that and you have a chance. Then it’s up to the players to make plays. That’s the difference in being mediocre and becoming really good.
Here’s another thing about the two OCs. You think maybe one is up in the box and the other is on the field?
Yes, Studsville is on the sidelines and Frye is upstairs
Frye or Godsey? I would think the QB coach would be on the field.
This is just me speculating on it.
Co-OC Studesville on the field.
QB coach Frye on the field.
Co-OC Godsey in the box with the birds eye view.
Another way to look at is Studesville is the running game coordinator and Godsey the passing game coordinator. That is already common. Like I said earlier they already game planned what they’re doing in game situations. If things need to change in-game they discuss the adjustments. But they’re not drawing up plays in the dirt. LOL
Isn’t Frye (I think QB coach) relaying the play to Tua. Makes sense to me OCs would be up in the box v field. Frye needs to be on field if everything I said is correct. IMO.
Right not Frye the other OC is upstairs Frye is also on the sideline
All that said, Flores can override all of them and say in this situation I want to keep it on the ground or pass here. He doesn’t call the specific play, just the decision on run or pass. That’s part of the HC’s job. To have a feel for his team and the game.
See below….Coach or Tua have final call, imo.
Ultimately, it’s Tua….
Curious more than anything….my intuition is that both passing and running OCs should see the whole field and sets from the sky.
Then, converse and send play to Frye who interprets and communicates to Tua. Tua then does whatever the fuck he wants based on his reads on D. Am I close?
^sees v sets
….maybe I was right the first time? Lol….
Too many glasses of wine and a bowl…listening to band play covers and originals acoustically in nice Mexican restaurant (old family).
Maybe. But Godsey can communicate what he’s seeing to all of them. Not sure we need two birds eye view guys. He’s a former college QB, QB and TE coach, and OC for the Texans for a few years. He’s more adept in the overall passing game where I don’t think the sky view is as important for the run game because it is a more physical aspect of the game.
The main thing is to have one voice in the QB’s ear. That’s Frye and he’s the one that coaches the QBs. There’s a constant communication between them. Then the QB translates the play to the offense.
You’ve won me over….probably good to have one high and one low. I was wondering if run eyes v pass eyes in sky might maximize options. Perhaps not.
It’s a line of communication similar to like a military example you made the other night. There is a visual from above and from the guys on the ground. That’s been the case in football for decades. The guys involved just have different titles and roles. It’s not like an OC or DC do everything on their own. They communicate with multiple coaches including the HC. But there needs to be one voice to the players who calls the play – QB or Mike LB.
Tim says:
“…But they’re not drawing up plays in the dirt. LOL”
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Nor alone on the sideline while the game is happily going on without them, lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIece_iXUAYNeX_?format=jpg
Think just how far we’ve come!
Hallelujah, the days of disfunction are over. We’ve still got a long way to go, but at least we know we aren’t a clown show anymore.
This still amazes me. He did it in Miami too. I can’t ever recall seeing a HC so completely disengaged from two entire phases of the game like Gase was.
Lmao!
LOL, I thought of just that. Gase the HC not being a HC and acting like an OC. That’s what he never understood. It’s not a video game and I know for a fact he plays Madden.
BBMike,
Great job on keeping us posted today on what went down in joint practices with the Falcons.
Reminder to everyone: we aren’t going to show our ‘Trump Card’ to anybody in the preseason games or practices… that’s why we have closed practices to the media and fans. In other words, take what ya heard/saw today with a grain of salt. We absolutely will NOT put our real deal stuff on film for other teams to study… that would be foolish.
That stated, we can still get a general feel of who’s struggling and who’s thriving on our team. Seems as though Robert Foster and Eric Rowe had outstanding days, today!
Finally….ha, ha.
Would you care to elaborate on that, “Dr. Giggles”?
I’m still not a fan of co-Offensive Coordinators… too much can/could go wrong in critical sits. However, if we have it down to a science, I may become a big fan of as much when it’s all said and done. I won’t judge until I see it on gameday.
It can work, imo, and think if done well exceed.
IF done well, I concur… it could succeed.
Ya know, I’m thinking to myself… we give a false lead (not points) to the Patsies*… that they are dialed in to one of our OC’s headsets. But the one they’ve been dialed into isn’t the one with the official play call.
I don’t think you read our breakdown. You’re fixated on too many chefs in the kitchen. There are always many people involved. It’s a line of communication.
That said practices and scrimmages have been open to the public. But most of what teams are doing are vanilla basics, fundamentals and technique. Maybe you throw a few razzle dazzle out in the PS games but for the most part it’s still just basic football.
Most football games are basic a majority of the time. Players still have to beat the guy in front of them. Trickery is on top of doing the basics well. You don’t win tricking your opponent down after down.
I think you replied to the wrong post of mine (that’s alright, man!). I also think we’re echoing one another. We’re focused on the BASICS at this stage in the game, trying to find the best players at the right positions.
We’re certainly not trying to put our elaborate schemes on tape for others to study.
Nope not wrong post. 😉
I wonder if perhaps the set up we have is the same as it always was, and is on most teams, and we’ve just elevated the title of one of the positions to ‘co-coordinator’. In other words, Godsey has the same duties he might on any other team, but with a different title. Maybe Flores has simply tweaked the organizational flowchart, but not the duties. Just speculating…
Perhaps
That’s basically what it is. Flores probably got Studesville and Godsey more money with OC titles.
IMO, AFTER PSG2 (we’ll call it the ‘dress rehearsal’, being we’re down to only 3 PS games), we should all do predictions for our final record in the 2021 season.
CAN’T WAIT!!!
That extra game keeps screwing me up. But I’ve already settled on 11-6 and a WC.
Here’s what you need to know about Gase.
My long time friend’s stepson met Gase when he lived in Denver when Gase was OC with Peyton. They became friends. When Gase left for Miami, they didn’t see each other but stayed in touch.
When Gase became the Jets HC, stepson who is a Jets fan living in PA reunited. He and his family were invited to TC and to Gase’s house for BBQs and they played Madden together. My friend and the mom were also invited. He told me Gase had an amazing house in the Floram Park, NJ area where the Jets TC facility is.
Gase is a young guy, a weird bird and has been playing video games most of his life. I played pin ball and video games in arcades, pong at home with maybe some new stuff like Atari in my teens. I’m 13 years older than Gase, he’s been playing advanced video games for years. LOL
That’s what you see from him in that pic Kong posted. That’s why he has failed as a HC. He doesn’t relate to people very well.
Hey, Tim,
You may or may not remember the post I made back in the day, upon hearing that Steve Ross was exploring Adam Gase as our future HC. It went something like this…
#203: Hong Kong Phooey
#9430: Papa Smurf
#59142: Kim Jong il
#801355: Mr. Potatoe Head
#1934485: Adam Gase
I even took some flak for that post! And admittedly, Gase won me over after year 1 of his tenure, can’t lie.
It was ALL Peyton Manning, and even I knew it at the time.
No idea about any of that.
But once I found out who Gase was from a personal perspective it all made sense. I relayed that to another long time friend of mine when we both became Dolphins fans at 7-8 years old range. He was never a Gase fan and you guys knowing me, I’m patient and willing to give it some time. I had to tell him yeah man, you were right. He doesn’t get it as a HC.
We all know it was always Peyton now. The thing that made me believe in Gase was because Peyton was a big fan of his. I think Gase allowed the virtual and his own cockiness to get in the way after Peyton. He’s not HC material. But he’ll probably get another job somewhere whether in the pros or college. Right now he’s an OC in Michigan for a HS team. Yikes!
But he has a lot of money.
Shohei Ohtani is ridiculous.
The dude leads MLB with 40 HRs, and he is 8-1 as a starting pitcher with a 2.79 ERA. He’s 5-0 with an ERA under 1.69 in his last 6 starts. He has 120 strike outs in 100 innings. And he’s got 18 stolen bases.
We’ve literally never seen a player do this in our lifetimes.
It’s Babe Ruth type stuff. But yes, not in our lifetimes.
The hype gave me hope he might be it. I’m willing to give you a chance until I see how you perform. I’m willing to help you perform batter if you want to. If not, fuck off….lol.
Trying to figure out how not to laugh….
Fuck….thay was to mf13ss post about Gase.
Bottom line, he’s clueless, imo.
I thought that’s what it was about. Flores is the opposite of Gase. He hires guys to handle coaching jobs so he can coach the entire game. Not a specific part of the game as a specialist. He gets the HC role. He’s the general of the team. Grier is the president overseeing it all. Ross is the wealth of the nation. It’s a line of communication from top to bottom. They all have a role. Then it’s up to the soldiers. Game plan and execution.
Flores learned this from Belichick and his own life experiences. He has some of his own ideas. But it all comes from a regimented military, FBI and football background. Parcells’ father was football, FBI and lawyer. Belichick’s father was football and Navy. They connected on that and created a blue print. Doing everything right is paramount. Flores has been taught as a coach what all of that means. That’s why we’re not a sloppy team. It’s up to the talent and playmakers now.
The difference between 8-13 wins are players. Go Phins!!!!
That’s why Grier targeted Flores as HC in 2019. They both come from the same mindset and football tree. The Parcells/Belichick tree is the most successful coaching tree there is in NFL history. Belichick took it to another level but both Bill’s respect each other along the way. You don’t have to like it, but history tells you that it’s undeniable. It’s kind of like science. 😉
Is it science TK or basic old school parenting? No participation trophies in Flores’ family…..lol.
I like the military, disciplined, well-trained take you made. Nice!
Krishna, that’s what I think Flores is. Who helps us win games? He likes Gaskin to be the main tailback. Why? Because he saw it in practice last year and continued this year. That’s exactly what Belichick does. Who’s his #1 back?
Yep….
Do you ever sleep?
Forgot…..lol!
My hours flex and sometimes I’m the major night owl.
I’m gonna drop a mixtape called “Godsey in the Box”.
LOL
Tim, yenta post above 😂
Don’t get all giddy, if we look great on Saturday
What to know for Saturday
Arthur Smith (Falcons HC) indicated he wouldn’t exactly trot out of a bunch of starters last Friday and he was a man of his word, as we only got a glimpse of a handful of players who figure to be prominently involved in the offense and defense in 2021. If I had to bet, we’ll see more of the same against Miami, even if I expect Smith to be somewhat coy about it.
this from PFF “the fatal flaw for all 32 NFL teams…”
MIAMI DOLPHINS: UNPROVEN OFFENSIVE LINE
Four of the Dolphins’ five starting offensive linemen on their first depth chart are within three years of entering the league. None of the starting five have earned a grade higher than 65.8 overall for a season. That’s a lot of question marks to have blocking for your second-year quarterback.
I strongly agree with this statement and it will concern me until it doesn’t LOL
“Unproven” is the correct way to phrase it
If you read Twitter people think our OL is already done
If this shapes up to be an OL of 1st and 2nd year starters (Which is looking like what will happen) I don’t think how they graded last year means much
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The Bears D, since they got Mack has been very hard to move the ball against, using that as my baseline I conclude, that our O doesn’t exactly need a good OL to make the playoffs
I’ve seen very good Os get stymied by them, with the most recent being Tampa, when Brady forgot what down it was
We moved the ball fairly easy against them, even though they were stout up front with plenty of pressure
Think our playmakers most weeks will be able to overcome our OLs shortcomings
Teams like Buffalo and Tampa will be the real tests, but if our OL improves those games will be a toss up, if we can beat them anything is possible this year
Hard not to worry about it a bit at least. Jackson and Kindley were supposed to make the left side the strength of the line…….now not so sure.
It’s going to be a problem all year, so don’t expect to see 3 runs from the 1 yard line on 1st and goal too many times
We can scheme around those shortcomings, but against the better teams it’s going to be tough
“The Dolphins are removing Preston Williams and Elandon Roberts from the PUP list.” — like to hear that.
Shocker, at least for Roberts
“Noah Igbinoghene, who had been wearing a red-non contact jersey this week, is now out of that jersey and cleared for contact.”
More great news!
Think Needham is going to allow Iggy to progress at his own pace and not be needed like he was last year in the first bills game
At this point think Iggy progressing is the concept. Makes me wonder about drafting someone so young. He’s only 21 now. Might be a great player at some point….. on his second contract.
Season needs to get here soon.
Heaven can wait, we still have a ton of work to do, especially on the OL
Great news about Williams and Roberts. I didn’t even realize Iggawhatshisname was in a redshirt, but it’s good we’re getting healthy. Let’s get those other 3 receivers back, and get close to full strength to start the season.
Preseason game 2- no whammies!! no whammies!!
NO WHAMMIES!!
This is reverse day. Usually there are NE’ers wishing us FL people luck.
I hope you guys up in the NE get lucky and Henri decides to turn right and miss you all. You guys are just not set up for Hurricanes.
Rhut Rhow
No news here….
— Dolphins attendance report: Not working are Albert Wilson, Will Fuller V, DeVante Parker, Isaiah Ford, Vince Biegel, Brandon Jones, Javaris Davis and Sam Eguavoen.
— Noah Igbinoghene no longer had the red jersey he wore Wednesday. Tight end Hunter Long still had a big brace around his left knee.
— Kai Locksley made an impressive high catch of a Tua pass in the back of the end zone on a one-on-one coverage drill near the goal line, complete with getting his feet down in bounds.
— Solomon Kindley got the first snaps at left guard in 11-on-11 work. Liam Eichenberg served as the second-team right tackle.
— Tua threw a nice down the middle of the field to Jaylen Waddle on a play where the Falcons were flagged for defensive holding.
— Good news with Long taking part in team drills. He caught a pass from Jacoby Brissett down the left sideline. This is really good to see given how scary his knee injury of Aug. 3 was.
— Robert Hunt stoned defensive tackle Grady Jarrett, Atlanta’s best defensive lineman, in a one-on-one pass-rushing drill. Austin Jackson and newcomer Greg Little also both had good reps in this drill.
— Tua drilled a nice pass down the middle to Jakeem Grant in a 7-on-7 period.
— Lynn Bowden Jr. asked for trainers after falling down while catching a pass from Jacoby Brissett in 7-on-7s. He’s still on the ground after a good minute and now is getting helped up. He was holding the back of his right leg as he walked off the field very gingerly.
— Mike Gesicki did a good of reaching back to catch a Tua pass thrown behind him at the start of an 11-on-11 period.
— Running back Salvon Ahmed made a nice high-pointing catch against two defenders on a sideline pass downfield from Brissett.
— Myles Gaskin pancaked an Atlanta defender on a chip block while he was engaged with Greg Little on a play that ended with Brissett being picked off by Delrick Abrams Jr.
— Jevon Holland recorded his fourth interception of camp after Xavien Howard tipped a Matt Ryan pass downfield. The football just finds the rookie safety, plain and simple.
— Tua was picked off by Atlanta DB Isaiah Oliver, the son of former Dolphins cornerback Muhammad Oliver. The pass was intended for Mike Gesicki.
— A busted coverage allowed Matt Ryan to throw a touchdown pass in the back of the end zone to Christian Blake.
— Tua came back on the near field with a beautiful throw to Grant in the back of the end zone, throwing the ball before Grant got open. It was a case of a quarterback throwing his receiver open.
— Matt Ryan threw a touchdown pass to Kyle Pitts with Byron Jones in coverage.
— Not a great practice for Robert Foster, who dropped two catchable passes.
— Jacoby Brissett threw a beautiful pass in the back of the end zone for Kirk Merritt, who dove to make the catch and then did a little dance to celebrate. Merritt has been having a really, really good camp.
— Tua came back with a pretty floater to Adam Shaheen in the back of the end zone.
— Chris Myarick made a beautiful diving, one-handed catch in the back of the end zone on a pass from Brissett.
— Jason Sanders was perfect on field goal attempts, including kicks of 52, 55 and 55 yards. Spoiler alert: That dude is good.
— The Dolphins failed to score in a two-minute drill when they were trailing by four, as Tua threw four consecutive incompletions.
— Nik Needham walked off the field accompanied by trainers but stayed on the sideline until he was carted inside the facility, though he walked in and looked fine. Don’t want to speculate, but will just say it’s really, really hot out here, so cramps certainly would be a possibility.
Sigh of relief about Needham
Great to see Long is actually participating
— Emmanuel Ogbah had a big practice with as many as three would-be sacks, including two in a two-minute drill where the Dolphins defense also kept Atlanta out of the end zone.
— The second-team Dolphins went four-and-out on its two-minute drills, and on one play Eichenberg ended up at the feet of Brissett — never a good sign for an offensive lineman.
— Jamal Perry ended the practice with an interception of A.J. McCarron after the pass was batted up at the line of scrimmage.
BY ALAIN POUPART
We’re a step ahead of you. Schad. FMU has had him penciled in for probably two weeks now.
LOL!
I love his “Also, Hunter Long has like 100 catches today”
Most people with me that we should get Ogbah signed now instead of after the season ends when he’s probably going to cost a lot more?
Yes!
any of you guys know WTF these helmet helmets are about? I see a bunch of players wearing them this camp, but not all of the players. Additional Concussion protection?
Looks like IKEA is making the new helmets
LOL, that is for players auditioning to be Venture Brothers villains…
Venture Bros loves their bighead villains…
Aaron Rogers is really perfecting the strategy to ask for some ones mom’s phone number
“None of those people over there are going to buy your Girl Scout cookies…”
He’s got ham in his name but spam in his blood
You just can’t get rid of him
Piggy your obsession with Mrs. Wilson is a bit disturbing. LOL
Why do people keep saying this this?
It’s like you read what the restraining order said!
Honestly, knowing Rogers, he is probably teaching Wilson how to part ways with his Mother
He is old enough to be his father
I guess it all start up front, until it doesn’t. Lol
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I’ve rewatched the game a couple times focusing on different offensive linemen. When I watched it for the first time, I really focused on Kindley and Deiter….and then Skura when he came in. I thought Deiter and Skura was a wash. Both played okay but had some misses too. Deiter was late recognizing pressure and shifting. Nothing terrible but some basic missteps. Nothing that seemed concerning for a first PS game. Kindley was just bad. He’s still playing way too high and his footwork was off. He tries to just overwhelm guys instead of maintaining good technique. That won’t work in the NFL. He needs to focus on winning with technique…not just his power.
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The first rewatch, I focused on Jackson. I had noticed he didn’t play well in the first watch, but I didn’t notice just how bad he was. He was getting run often. He looked slow and just disinterested. His head wasn’t in it. At least I hope it was mostly mental and not physical because he was getting beat way too often on basic stuff. He was slow to cut off angles. He looked sluggish out of his stance. His kick step was slow and just barely okay, but his positioning to defenders was off. He wasn’t squaring anybody up…that’s your footwork, and his punch and hand use was really almost nonexistent. He wasn’t aggressive. He was allowing defenders to come to him instead of going after guys. Even in pass pro, you have to aggressively engage in your blocks.
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The third watch, I just kinda focused on everybody. I really know very little about our backups on the OL. Just as I thought when I watched it the first time, I was not impressed at all with our backups. It ain’t good. Skura was really the only positive I saw. And I will say this; one thing you never want to see is your OL on the ground. I saw that a lot in this game. Weak.
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I don’t usually get too concerned about stuff in an early PS game, but the lack of apparent mental focus was alarming. We haven’t seen that in Flores’ teams so far. I’m guessing he will have put a boot in guys’ asses, and we will see a much more focused and aggressive performance in game 2. We have a lot of young guys, so I’m not getting too stressed. But, you can’t have this….and I don’t care who the competition is. If you want to be a serious playoff contender, you better be able to compete with the best.
You know your O-line better than almost any of us and guessing you put more time into that judgment than any one of us. Sorta scary. What happened to Jackson? Supposed to be the lynchpin.
Rockphin says:
August 19, 2021 at 1:12 pm
LOL!
I love his “Also, Hunter Long has like 100 catches today”
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I read this in Napoleon Dynamite voice.
Too funny, I read it again after this post and can hear the voice now too.
Life as a Miami Fins Fan!!!!!!!!
Ah memories of the HDS
Like a lot of the rest of our team the O-line is really young. Especially the supposed ‘starters’. We may have some growing pains but I am REALLY hoping that this group can come together and become a strength of the team. The AVERAGE age of the entire group is 24.7 YO.
The average age of the “assumed starters” Jackson – Eichenberg – Deiter – Hunt – Davis is pretty green with a combined 2.4 years of experience average and Davis throws that average way off. That is a lot of first and second year players to depend on!
Skura – 28
Jones – 22
Tom – 26
Deiter – 24
Davis – 29
Hunt – 24
Eluemunor – 26
Little – 23
Coleman – 23
Eichenberg – 23
Jackson – 22
Pankey – 27
Parris – 25
Kindley – 24
If they get it right this could be a good group for YEARS to come. Or, it could shit the bed and need to be rebuilt again…
LOL
Once Tua gets settled they’ll have a better idea of how to block for him, where he likes to scramble and when
You don’t have to have great OLmen to be effective
But it helps
AH CRAP! Jesse Davis is almost 30!
LOL
John Jenkins and Jason McCourty are the two elder statesmen on the roster. Their hand jewels are glowing red already at 32 & 34.
Did you guys catch earlier that Matt Ryan and Brian Flores were teammates back in 2003 at Boston College?
▪ The Dolphins signed linebacker Josh Harvey Clemons, who has 41 career tackles and 1.5 sacks in 35 games over three seasons with the Washington Football Team.
Why isn’t this dumpster on fire?
Wait for it
Working?
Cool
Broken
Be kind to the tech ignorant
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article253297313.html
— The injury during the game in Glendale, Arizona, happened as Williams was making a touchdown catch, his seventh in 16 career regular-season games.
“I landed on my foot, heard it pop,” he said.
Though some suspected Dolphins defensive lineman Christian Wilkins caused the injury by stepping on Williams’ foot, Williams said that was not the case.
“Christian celebrating, that’s what we do every game,” Williams said. “That had nothing to do with it. I hate that people are saying that.” —
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I was one that believed Wilkins may have accidentally caused it. Glad to know it happened on the play.
These wide receivers sure are fragile. He landed on his foot wrong. That’s like an old person’s thing.
Don’t you remember how he got his leg twisted in the air?
AZ twisted it, then when he came down it was still out of whack, causing the injury at contact with the ground
Watched the replay below and still didn’t look that bad. If anything looked like an ankle could have got done.
I call bullshit, it’s the right thing to say but come on we all saw it
I’m taking it at face value. Like Steve said, the leg got twisted as he came down. Up till now I’ve thought it could have been Wilkins, but I’ve always thought it easily could have been the play too because of the tackle
I hope we continue these 2 joint practices every year
You can see it happened on the tackle, I don’t even see Wilkins landing on his foot lol
Ok he’s telling the truth
After further review it is my determination that Wilkins did in fact exacerbate something watch Williams immediately after Wilkins is off him. Final answer.
It’s possible. Or Wilkins swatting him downward put some pressure on the injury and made Williams realize it was hurt. I mean it looks like Wilkins really didn’t get much of his weight onto him. Certainly not enough to injure him. Actually watching the video again, I am more convinced it was on the tackle, lol.
That was a nice play we ran by the way
Tua’s best game last year.
I keep watching the video over and over, and it was almost 8 full seconds before he reacts. That is a long time for adrenaline to mask it. Now I’m waffling, maybe it was Wilkins. LOL
What a mess in Kabul
💩show
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-insider-bill-obrien-a-potential-candidate-to-replace-bill-belichick-after-retirement/ar-AANvtPn
Good
That would be a great hire for us, lol.
LOL
I thought Belicheat promised that job to Josh McDaniels, so he would stay and not coach in Indy
The article quotes ‘an insider’, so it’s probably not worth the electronic paper it’s printed on, lol.
“Midway through practice, Lynn Bowden Jr. walked gingerly off the field holding the back of his right leg after diving to catch a pass. He did not return.” It’s like survivor.
We might need to keep 20 WRs, lol
Dolphins WRs car pooling to the game:
Lol
man, look at the shocks adjust as they get out. I think they are all really in that car!
Fucking better not have been Wilkins jumping all over him
Doesn’t the Commissioner claim to still be sore from Wilkins accosting him on draft night?
you mean at the after party? Commish told me “i don’t remember that night at all, but i woke up sore “down there”
By the way BBMike, that girl you posted wasn’t my girlfriend even though she was hot too but this is my girl here
You’ve been reading too many rumors that, if she moves when she dances…
All these choices are so high school sounding. Why not the Washington Senators? Would be a tribute to the local area’s sport past.
Ghey
I hope they choose the Presidents. The Washington Presidents, lol, that is sooo bad. I wonder what image the helmet would have on it. George Washington’s bust?
Given my love of both Snyder and accuracy submitted “The Raging Narcissistic Piss Ants”….. but guess didn’t make the cut.
The current Prez.. then they can potentially remarket their Merch every 4 years 👍
LOL
I pick WTF
That whole list sucks, if I had to choose I would probably pick the Armada. If it was just the Hogs, that would be my choice, but Redhogs? nope. What’s the deal with them adding red to the animals?
I’m glad we aren’t the Miami Aqua/Orange Dolphins because that would be stupid.
Agree — Just The Hogs was the way to go. Out of those choices would just keep it as WFT. There’s actually something different and a little bit cool about that long as you embrace it.
stanger,
Nah, I’m just one opinion….there are plenty of smart football guys around here. I’m really not too worried, I think we have definitely upgraded our talent on the OL. Jackson most definitely has the raw athleticism to be a good…maybe not great…LT. He’s young. He really just looked out of it mentally last week. I don’t like that, but I’m not getting all worked up about it in a PS game. I also like Kindley’s potential. Tons of rookies come in with poor mechanics. I’d like to see him be much more consistent in his technique, but he’s certainly a talented young kid. I think Hunt could potentially be a really good guard. I don’t want him at RT, but he could be really good at guard. I really hope they just leave him there. These guys are all still young and learning. Bad first PS game. Learn from it. Learn how to be a professional. They should only get better. Coaching/learning moment, hopefully.
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I may not share the opinion of most around here that our OL was good last year, but there’s no doubt there was noticeable improvement. I’m still positive on these young guys. The potential is there. We’ll see if they can live up to it.
I know most of you are thinking I’m a fan of the “redhogs”.
And although it’s nice to see representation….
I actually hate it
First of all, I hate the team going back to watching them beat us in he SB in the 80s.
Second, They should not use red at all
Their uniforms are burgundy.
It also just keeps the memory of the old name alive, which defeats the purpose of changing names
The others suck too
I hate WFT as a name bc it sounds like WTF. Now if they went with “what the fuck” I would love it.
Defenders is a bad idea. Imagine having that name and giving up 40 points. The jokes won’t end.
Presidents is silly isn’t it? I personally don;t like the name Senators in the nhl. If they do presidents what’s gonna be their logo – the seal? WFT….I mean WTF
So that’s leaves us with commanders, brigade and armada
FYI Danny Snyder, it’s a football team, not an 18th century battle
I know that they probably just want to install a cannon in the stadium
It’s kind of a lame group of names to pick
I’m gonna go with commanders, provided this is their new logo
It was a 16th century battle but other than that Hulk agrees
Lol classic Piggs!
All those names suck. Like you WTF sounds best
Logo – 🤷♂️