Game 3 – Dolphins @ Raiders

I have to admit, it’s tough to be a fan. Last week’s derailment really disappointed me, truly upset me, made me realize that every time I buy in to what our team is doing I should take a step back, take a breath, and make sure I don’t fall for the hype. No sugarcoating here, I absolutely thought we were past this type of performance with a solid Head Coach in Brian Flores. 35-0 beatdown against a division rival who embarrassed you to the point that it was the subject of discussion for months after the game in which we were undressed in Buffalo 56-26, with a win necessary to make the playoffs. This was supposed to be sweet revenge, a 1:00PM game in the sweltering heat of Miami against the bullies from Buffalo. Yes, Tua was injured early, but for all the anti-Tua talk on this blog, the big armed 6’4 235 Brissett, all the Tua detractors hero, failed to put a single point on the board. I know there are at least 2 guys here who probably smiled when Tua went down and expected Brissett to take this offense to new heights, certainly higher than 6 feet. Before the excuses come pouring in about how Brissett had only second team snaps in practice (The very same excuses that didn’t apply for Tua), don’t bother. Brissett will get a better chance this week now that he is the starter and will receive the starter snaps in practice.

On the bright side, it’s just week 3 in a 17 week season. Perspective is important. I’m going to hope we got our worst game of the season out of our system, I can only hope we have. Let me say this quick before I forget. I don’t give a rats ass what some of you think of TE Mike Gesicki, it’s absurd to me that this guy has only 9 targets so far and 3 receptions. I’m going to laugh at all you Gesicki haters if/when he ends up on another NFL team and has an 80-100 catch season with 10+ TD’s and over 1000 yards receiving. It’s gonna happen, but why it won’t happen in Miami is baffling to me. Get this guy involved in this offense, feature him dammit, like every other team with a TE like him does! Who cares what his salary might end up at, you drafted him, he’s on the team, U-S-E him! Sure, we have Parker, Waddle, Wilson, Gaskin and others but Gesicki at this moment is probably your best and most dangerous receiver, until Waddle learns the ropes.

OK, like Jen Psaki, I’m going to circle back to the essence of the first paragraph. This week’s game is so much more important to the Miami Dolphins than the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders seem to have finally embraced their QB Derek Carr and he is thriving, and it’s not just the 2 games to start this season, in which Carr has over 800 yards passing along with 4 TD’s and just 1 INT. It started last season and it appears that Gruden has found and realized that he can be successful with Derek Carr. Last week’s loss to the Bills was a bitchslap of mammoth proportions. It was reminiscent of the many massacres we’ve taken at the hands of the Baltimore Ravens, like the 40-0 bludgeoning in 2017, or the 59-10 slaughter in 2019. This was close to those to me because we’re not supposed to be that team anymore. Find me a game in the last 10 years where the Baltimore Ravens got embarrassed like we did last week, you won’t find it. Well coached, well prepared teams simply don’t do that. So this week, with a full week of 1st team snaps, Brissett needs to do a lot more than the 169 yards and no TD’s on 40 pass attempts. Maybe 10-15 of the pass attempts this week need to find #88. Establish the run game and get that O-line some confidence and momentum. Nothing gets the O-line going like opening holes and pushing guys around. It also tires out the defense. Impose your will on the defense and set the tone that we’re no pushover, and make it that last week was merely a hiccup rather than business as usual.

At the very least, we need to be very competitive this week. There’s such a shitstorm swirling around this team right now, we made a mistake drafting Tua, our O-line which has been abysmal , of which we have spent a 2020 1st RD pick (#18, Austin Jackson), a 2021 2nd RD pick (#42 Liam Eichenberg), a 2019 3rd RD pick (#78 Michael Deiter), a 2021 2nd RD pick (#39 Robert Hunt), and finally Jesse Davis, the seasoned vet who no one seems to be able to unseat despite his mediocre play and ability and non-celebrated draft status, Davis was undrafted. Lots of draft capital there, little results. Of course it takes time sometimes, they have to jell, and we’ll all speculate that it’s because we keep moving guys around and not letting them settle in at one position. I don’t buy it. Most, if not all of these guys have done exactly that, played multiple positions during their high school and college careers. We have to find the right 5, the best 5, and then we’ll find out where each guy plays best. It’s probably harder to move from LG or LT to RT because the mechanics are completely opposite, but if you’re on the left side, it shouldn’t be impossible to move from LT to LG or vice versa. We’ll find out if we have talent there or not and I honestly prefer we do that, give these guys an opportunity to succeed rather than go to safe options like veteran Greg Mancz or Greg Little. No offense to Jesse Davis but I’d rather see Eichenberg at RT, or possibly Robert Hunt. Davis isn’t the future, he’s not even the “now”. He’s adequate at best.

There’s no excuses about the depth we have at the skill positions. I like our WR’s, we just need to get them the ball. Same goes for our TE’s. Get them the damn ball. Gaskin is fine, despite the fact that I wanted to draft Najee Harris or Jovonte Williams, Myles Gaskin is not our problem. He can be the solution if we get him enough touches. Brissett has a full, even Fuller complement of weapons at his disposal. It looks like Will Fuller will be playing this Sunday, even after the ominous feeling that he was done for the season. DeVante Parker is healthy, Jaylen Waddle is showing his potential already, and Preston Wilson is healthy, and of course, the aforementioned TE Mike Gesicki is just itching for some targets. Brissett showed he can handle the rush, and he’ll probably be seeing more of the same against the Raiders defense with Maxx Crosby, Solomon Thomas, Yannick Ngakoue, Carl Nassib and others. The Raiders have 2 good safeties in Jonathan Abram and rookie Trevon Moehrig. LB Denzel Perryman leads the team in tackles. Solid defensive group overall but not elite by any measure. Let’s hope we don’t make them look any different.

On offense, Derek Carr is lighting it up and Jon Gruden features the TE early and often. Waller already has 26 targets, roughly 3X more than Gesicki. Hunter Renfrow and good ole Kenyan Drake have been busy too. Drake will be starting at RB as Josh Jacobs is injured and likely OUT. Drake would love nothing but to have a day against his former team. I don’t know what to expect but I can tell you what I’d love to see. I’d love to see the offense come out and pick the Raiders apart. I want a good measure of Gaskin in the run and pass game and slowly move the ball down the field and use up some clock, get that defense on its heels. Then culminate that drive with a TD and set the tone. Then on defense I’d like our defense to flex its muscles some. Get AVG, Phillips, Ogbah all in Carr’s face and bring him down a couple of time early on. We need to dictate the pace this game, not play back on our heels and play from behind. We’re not well suited for that, so we need to jump on them early and stay there. I can only hope . . .

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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402 Responses to Game 3 – Dolphins @ Raiders

  1. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    First!!

  2. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Nice write Mike E!

  3. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Cav, in my wildest dreams I couldn’t imagine getting a fumble recovery on the Waddle muffed punt. He was never close to having possession

  4. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  5. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Just bringing this forward

    Week 3
    HOWIE’S LIST

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬
    Herd 23-20 🐬
    Kong 27-24 🐬
    🐠 35-7 🐬
    New Age 27-26 🐬
    Rock 36-20 LVR 😦
    stanger 17-14 🐬

  6. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Ok, Steve, that is a very general statement that literally doesn’t add anything to the conversation. 😉

    We were getting into the weeds of why it wasn’t possession. He had both hands on the ball with what looked like control and he lost it when his elbow hit the ground.

    The ref and ex-ref said it was because he didn’t make a football move, not because he wasn’t even close to possessing the ball. So my question to you why do you say he never come close to possessing the ball? Because he didn’t make a football move like the refs said? Or because you don’t think he actually had control long enough when he had his hands on it? or other?

    For me, I’ve never heard of having to make a football move on a fumble recovery. As I pointed out in the last blog, on a fumble recovery I’ve seen a guy get two hands on the ball with two feet down as he falls out of bounds and that called a recovery with no football move, so what makes the Waddle non-recovery different?

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      And I’m just in a bantering mood, if it’s bugging you, I’ll tone it down. My goal isn’t to piss you off, lol.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      If you recover a fumble with 2 feet inbounds, then go out of bounds, you don’t have to make a football move, but you do have to control the ball to the ground or if standing for a second or so.

      Was just messing with you Cav🤪 because you were in one of those moods

      Waddle had possession as he was clipped by the D, his elbow hits ground ball pops out, refs fdup another one

  7. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Still wish we had drafted the better TE in that draft. Guy can block (unlike the big WR we drafted)

  8. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The worst ability is “Liability” or something like that. 😉

  9. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Damn MIke! LOL

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Find me clips of Darren Waller blocking effectively for the Raiders this season. With 26 targets, can’t imagine he has much time to be blocking, oh, and no Raider fan gives a flying fuck whether he can block or not.

  11. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    NICE write! I’m right there with ya on Gesicki (always have been since his PSU days, of course), and I think we go into this game wanting to punch them in the mouth. Like you said, set the tone early and we can control this game.

  12. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Didn’t the Big Tuna say something like the most important ability is Availability? I was playing off that.

  13. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I wonder if we can get Josh Rosen back……(trolling trolling trolling keep those fingers scrolling)

  14. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Great write Mike E. I agree with everything, but my main concern is communication on offense and execution of the play. That didn’t happen last week at all. Our defense should hold up against the raiders.

  15. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    CavalierKong says:
    September 24, 2021 at 1:03 pm
    I’m all over the place. Pay me no mind 😄

    I don’t have enough mind to pay you any, anyway.

  16. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Rock, Tuna said “the best ability is availability”.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Ironic that the fuckface who sneaked out of Miami in the middle of the night and made himself “unavailable” coined that phrase. For what it’s worth, we were better off without him, he never had his heart in it here in Miami

  17. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I really want to be wrong. I just don’t think I am. Dolphins blew it by not drafting Herbert.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I think it’s far too early to determine that… but time will tell.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        I have thought it all along though. Before the draft I was dead set against taking Tua and was a loud advocate of taking Herbert. I decided to root for Tua once he put on my team’s jersey, but I still don’t think he will be as good as Herbert will be.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        All signs are pointing to Rock being right, but it’s definitely too early. Tua simply has a lot more to overcome than Herbert does. Herbert has an elite NFL arm while Tua’s is average. Tua also has the injury history so early on in their careers, Herbert is the better choice. Like M said, time will tell. Tua has to stay healthy, and he must start producing as well.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      I said the exact same thing last week after our game, while watching Herbert play.

  18. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    LMAO @ “OK, like Jen Psaki, I’m going to circle back to the essence of the first paragraph.”

    Passionate and excellent write, but the crusher game didn’t bother me as much as you. Maybe cause I had less expectations to start with. Bills are a Super Bowl contender. We are not there yet.

    Yeah the game got out of hand, but happens sometimes. Been on some teams that just gave up, even if none of the players on it would ever admit it.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      When you take a beating like that it makes everyone look in the mirror

      Sometimes it’s necessary, but most times the following week you come to play

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        We’ll play better this week. Doesn’t mean will win, but will be better. How could it not be? Those blow outs have a life of their own.

  19. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Rockphin says:
    September 24, 2021 at 12:54 pm
    I wonder if we can get Josh Rosen back……(trolling trolling trolling keep those fingers scrolling)

    Or maybe we should have traded for Darnold……..

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Because I like USC, wanted Darnold to go to a team I could quasi root for, but once a jet always a jet, can’t root for him at least this year

  20. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “As a league executive put it this week during a discussion about Amazon and brewing talks for NFL Sunday Ticket: ‘Bezos wants his own team. He definitely wants to buy a team.’”

    And if the man actually wants his own team he will get it out of the change he finds in his sofa.

  21. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Just say NO! To all things Amazon or Bezos related.

  22. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Dolphins owner Stephen Ross wants Deshaun Watson. Even with 22 civil lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct and 10 criminal complaints, Ross wants Watson. (And Ross is not happy, we’re told, that word has trickled out regarding his desire to land Watson.)

    Ross and his team haven’t pulled the trigger on the trade not because of the uncertainty over Watson’s legal situation but because of the asking price. Presumably, three first-round picks and two second-round picks.”

    — Mike Florio….. let the bashing of him begin, even if first have seen that it is Ross with the mancrush.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      I don’t like Florio, but the only reason I would bash him here is if there is a documented source and confirmation to Ross saying these things? If the answer is yes, and it can be validated, then he is just reporting facts.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        With all based on “sources familiar with the situation”….. who knows? But Florio at least acts likes he knows a whole lot about Watson and the Dolphins.

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Stanger, that is part of the point…where are the facts? I can write an article claiming sources…..means nothing to me to put that wording in there.

  23. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I liked Joe Rose the player, but can’t stand him on WQAM. He sucks Mike Lombardi’s dick all the time and constantly rehashes his takes on Tua, to the point that it’s ridiculous already. I don’t give a fuck what Michael Lombardi has to say, he’s nothing, and Joe Rose can go fuck himself for bringing him on the show with the same old tired opinion.

  24. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Florio has been writing nonsense for headline clicks for 20 years. He started because he wrote a book called, “Quarterback of the Future” and he created the blog to drive people to his book. I remember being on this site early back in the day because he did have some funny stuff, especially in his feuds against Len Pasquarelli. Crazy to see him still doing it. Broken clock, blind squirrel cliche’s if he’s right about Watson.

  25. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    September 24, 2021 at 2:26 pm
    But who are we to say who and who cannot be an NFL owner? I really dislike Dan Snyder, but would never say he shouldn’t own a team.
    ————-
    Curious as to your thoughts of Rush Limbaugh being blocked as an owner. He tried to buy the Rams, if you didn’t already know.

  26. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    stangerx says:
    September 24, 2021 at 2:26 pm
    But who are we to say who and who cannot be an NFL owner?

    The Other 31 NFL owners have veto power. Trump wanted an NFL team too and was blocked. That’s why he tried to open his own league.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Trump wasn’t blocked. The other guy just put in a much higher bid. Trump’s bid didn’t even come close to competing. Nothing about a proposed sale that the other owners blocked involved. Never got to that stage.

      But yes they can do that. Don’t think it happens much.

  27. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The NFL is the ultimate old boys club.

  28. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Rockphin says:
    September 24, 2021 at 1:23 pm
    I have thought it all along though. Before the draft I was dead set against taking Tua and was a loud advocate of taking Herbert. I decided to root for Tua once he put on my team’s jersey, but I still don’t think he will be as good as Herbert will be.
    ————
    I hear ya, but STILL, it’s far too early to determine as much. Tua still has yet to have a full 16 games by which to evaluate. And even after 16 games (a full season), it’s far too early to evaluate.

    Herbert may become the better QB when it’s all said and done, but it’s premature to make that call in the here and now. 3 years (or 48 games) is the standard that I would go by to make a fair assessment of a QB.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Fair enough, I won’t argue the point with you. It is only my ill-informed opinion, but your objection to my opinion doesn’t change it. I already believe Herbert IS and WILL BE the better QB. AND since I have already formed my bias it will be hard to dissuade me in the future.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I’ll tell ya this much: RIGHT NOW I think most Phin fans have buyer’s remorse for choosing Tua over Herbert. I hear ya, and that’s fair enough as well, bud.

        I’m patient… and I’m willing to allow Father Time to see what happens! 🙂

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        I burned my Patience Brigade membership card a few years ago. Now I have none.

  29. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    September 24, 2021 at 2:54 pm
    I would be completely against. was a Rush fan for years. But key thing is no one should be barred unless something like being Epstein involved.
    ————-
    You mean you WERE completely against Rush owning a football team?

    Sorry, I think your reply read awkwardly, man. I’m not sure how to interpret it.

  30. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Florio is a dick and a blowhard. He knows SHIT and says it out loud as click bait. He says garbage like it is a fact all the time and is….you guessed it…. WRONG all the time. How these fucks keep their jobs I will never understand.

  31. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Rockphin says:
    September 24, 2021 at 1:11 pm
    I really want to be wrong. I just don’t think I am. Dolphins blew it by not drafting Herbert.

    ***
    Rock, I’m not trying to bust your balls but This is ridiculous.

    You are wrong, you don’t have to want to be wrong

    I’ve been a long time fan of Herbert going back to his days at Oregon – actually going back to the 2019 draft when I thought he would be the 1st overall pick until he decided to go back to Oregon and I posted that here. So I like Herbert and I like his potential.

    But Tua was the better prospect according to most experts. In fact at the time, I was fighting with many people about criticizing Herbert. IMO it was always a top 3 QB with Herbert at 3. Nearly every gm in the league would have taken Tua over Herbert including San Diego which were being reported as trying to trade for Tua

    He is struggling this year so far and really young QBs are bound to have ups and downs but: herbert has 3 interceptions this year in 2 games. His team is 1-1 just like ours is. The chargers scored 17 points against the cowboys and 20 against the redskins. They aren’t exactly an offensive juggernaut so far and he actually does get run support to boot

    Last year he was letting it rip when his team is behind so those stats are a bit artificial

    The chargers won 6 of his 15 starts, many of which he threw for 300 yards in losing efforts. Tua also threw for 300 yards in a loss to the bills last season and we all called it a bad game for him bc we saw it live

    I think herberts future is bright

    But saying the Dolphins made a mistake by not drafting him in 2020 bc now Tua is injured after we watched OL commit malpractice against the bills is kind of absurd to me

    You are wrong about that….so you can stop hoping to be wrong and sleep easier now….lol

    Don’t get me wrong. I like herberts potential and always did
    But I like Tua’s potential too – just not when essie Davis is impersonating a matador….

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Agreed with Pigster, once again. Tua checked off ALL of the boxes when it came to the intangibles, where Herbert had a great many question marks.

      Tua was the safest bet as a true leader, and Herbert was known to be reclusive, passive, and lacked testicular fortitude, for a lack of better words.

      Our O-Line to date has FAILED Tua.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      But saying the Dolphins made a mistake by not drafting him in 2020 bc now Tua is injured after we watched OL commit malpractice against the bills is kind of absurd to me

      It’s not because Tua is injured. It’s because I think Herbert is the better QB. My feelings didn’t change because he got injured. They have never changed. I’ll stand by my statement. Carry on .

  32. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t know why I do this to myself

    But I watched the play where Tua was hurt again

    And I wouldn’t let Jessie Davis on the field again anytime soon after that

    And I like the depth Davis gives us – but no wonder he was so upset with himself….it’s atrocious blocking and an insult to the word “blocking” actually

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      Tua was hurt because he’s predictable, letting the clock run down and using the same cadence, the DE got a jump on Davis, in fact the whole DL got a jump, the NT was moving before the center was.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Jesse Davis received everything just short of death threats from Dolphins Twitter. I feel bad for him. The coaches made the decisions, and Davis did his best.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I dont agree with people who attacked him on Twitter

        But that doesn’t make his p lay any any better

        It wasn’t just bad play either – it was just really ugly. I’m not talking about his play overall which has its ups and down. I’m taking about that one play that one play which was not professional

  33. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i know this may be a shock to some of you but i think herbert is just a little better than tua, but only by a couple million light years!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Using a “million light years” reference which would literally take a million light years to develop when you won’t even wait 2 years is peak ORob

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good write, Mike. I agree with all of it. At the least we need a competitive performance in Vegas to at least have some confidence in this team. Right now we’re all hurting as fans.

  35. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Rob. Now Tua is predictable too. He also caused COVID-19. Anything else?

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I can see this blog article with be filled with wash, rinse, repeat commentary.

  37. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    M13

    Limbaugh was NOT blocked by the nfl. He joined Dave checketts group in their bid and then dropped out of the group himself following protests by the nflpa (not the nfl), people like al sharpton, and a few owners commenting about him. But he was never blocked and his ownership was never voted on – in fact checketts group without him was not voted on either. Some one else bought the team and that was approved

    When the nfl voted on nfl ownership for the rams in 2010 and approved it, it was a different owner

    If all things are equal, the question isn’t whether the nfl will block bezos, it’s whether anyone will protest his bid and whether that will matter. In bezos case, he’s not part of a group – it’s just his money, so his inflammatory persona (and I think not paying taxes and treating your employees like dirt is worthy of criticism) doesn’t affect a group of bidders

    My guess is it won’t matter if he is protested – if he wants a team and will pay for it, he doesn’t have to concern himself with hurting his partners like rushbaugh was concerned with when he dropped out of he group he was with

    Whether the nfl blocks him or not, when they vote, if They ever do, will not be an example of a double standard

  38. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Quite frankly Jessie Davis should be cut after that play and then taking himself out of the game. He quit on the play and then he quit on the team. He and he alone got Tua injured

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Ken

      That’s kind of what I am saying. Maybe not cut – but it wasn’t just that his play wasn’t good, what he did on that one single play is like going to a doctor to surgery and finding out the doctor left scissors in your body.

      And I agree he also quit on the Team after the play too and I don’t like that reaction

      If you make a mistake, the worst thing you can do is hide from it

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      But I am at least glad he recognized how bad it was

  39. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    September 24, 2021 at 3:33 pm
    I dont agree with people who attacked him on Twitter

    But that doesn’t make his p lay any any better

    It wasn’t just bad play either – it was just really ugly. I’m not talking about his play overall which has its ups and down. I’m taking about that one play that one play which was not professional
    —————–
    You and I agree on Jesse Davis’ up-and-down play, and also agree that he damn near got Tua killed. And most importantly, we don’t agree with the people who threatened him on Twitter.

    +10000000000000000

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I Read a post by some one with a screenshot telling him to retire

      And it’s just not right

      Even if he isn’t doing a good job – there is no reason for fans to belittle him.

      Some fans are just assholes

  40. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    September 24, 2021 at 3:39 pm
    Guess I’m not “uber-logical” but was thinking was directly answering a question as asked would be good enough. And said “would” cause had never heard of before.
    ——————-
    ALL GOOD! I learned ya something that had happened, but as Pigster wrote above, it wasn’t as cut-and-dry as it seemed.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I had figured that as a Rush fan, you’d have heard that he tried to buy the Rams.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      It is all cool. Just curious why you asked me about Rush even after said the hated Snyder has a right to own a team. Rush was the coolest cat around. He called things like he saw them, even if sometimes went against his political label. And his politics and mine generally matched up. Why was always a big fan of Bill O’reilly too. Were you thinking I wouldn’t like Rush?

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    People threatened Jesse Davis on Twitter?

    People are fucked in the head.

  42. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    are you guys saying fans are logical? Who knew? I mean, it’s right there in the name.

    Fanaticism is a belief or behavior involving uncritical zeal or an obsessive enthusiasm. Philosopher George Santayana defines fanaticism as “redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim”. The fanatic displays very strict standards and little tolerance for contrary ideas or opinions.

    LOL

  43. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Wow, I didn’t realize Davis took himself out of the game.

    And that ‘life long Dolphins fan’ is a straight up f^cktard.

    It’s one thing to say something like that on a blog or between other fans when you’re venting and the guy is never going to read it. To send the PERSON something like that is douchebaggery of the 1st order. It’s a sport, don’t try to destroy a person over it.

  44. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    September 24, 2021 at 3:50 pm
    It is all cool. Just curious why you asked me about Rush even after said the hated Snyder has a right to own a team. Rush was the coolest cat around. He called things like he saw them, even if sometimes went against his political label. And his politics and mine generally matched up. Why was always a big fan of Bill O’reilly too. Were you thinking I wouldn’t like Rush?
    —————
    Again, I’m like Spock: uber-logical and I found your tenses to be clashing with one another… and I’m surprised you didn’t know that Rush (via group) was trying to buy the Rams.

  45. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Back in the day fans would discuss sports at the water cooler at work, at school or at the bar etc. – “did you see that game yesterday? This guy sucks and that guy sucks.” Maybe a few of them were so psycho that they’d write insulting letters to the team or to the players they think suck. Now they can just go on social media and be complete assholes. Social media has shown us how fucked up some people are when it was once more quiet.

  46. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Kong, I hope you NEVER come to the Fest then! I absolutely do not need to see you in nothing but a 30+ year old jock strap!!! LOL

    Would love to hang out with you on any day other than game day though. 😉

  47. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    you guys are so hard headed, you have to work on having an open mind and look at things objectively. look at the 11:39 mark of the video, watch how the DL got a jump on the play

  48. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    NO NO NO NO!! SIT THE FUCK BACK DOWN!

    ROFLMAO!

  49. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Alright, I’m going to introduce something new to this blog: thoughts from other Phin Fans from Twitter. I won’t endorse what they have to say, rather we can comment on what they have to say.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I say it’s COACHING, specifically, at the O-Line coach’s position, coupled with this idea that we should cross-train EVERYBODY, when NOBODY has settled down into one position of expertice.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The last time we had a strong OL was in 2009 with Jake Long, Jake Grove, Justin Smiley, Donald Thomas and Vernon Carey. The problem is it didn’t last due to injuries. When they were all healthy they were knocking people around.

  50. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Nothing, that’s just CavalierKong’s game day wardrobe. ehrp

  51. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Look at the video above, don’t just say stupid shit, run & hide.

    Mike E. says:
    September 24, 2021 at 3:23 pm
    LOL @ Rob. Now Tua is predictable too. He also caused COVID-19. Anything else?

    The Flying Pig says:
    September 24, 2021 at 3:31 pm
    That’s a joke dude

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      That guy doesn’t even know who the name of the guy who sacked Tua was on the injury

      I’m not hiding – I’m confronting it

      You are so desperate to believe it’s Tua’s fault you don’t even realize he called it wrong and didn’t take a minute to scrutinize the video

      THat guys is feeding you Tua hating candy and you are standing in front of him like a porn star pre-bukkake

  52. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Orob

    Who the fuck is that guy?

    That is not Greg Rousseau sacking Tua, that is AJ Epenesa and he is not a speed rusher he ran a 5.04 at the combine and is anything but a speed rusher

    On that play Jessie Davis flat out whiffs a very startightfoward 1 on 1 matchup with a defensive end
    The guy on the inside of Espenesa on that play is DEfensive tackle Vernon butler

    It’s not complicated

    There were missed assignments and missed blitz picks up on the DB blitzes in the game – but that’s not the Tua injury

    The Tua injury was Aj Espenesa (a relatively slow defensive end) running right by Jessie Davis and facing nothing but an arm on his arm from Davis who was facing Espenesa 1 on 1 presnap as well

  53. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Ok. Just to be clear, I was screwing around to get some laughs at my own expense.

    My high school team never won a championship. We were terrible…

  54. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    mf13ss says:
    September 24, 2021 at 4:19 pm
    I say it’s COACHING, specifically, at the O-Line coach’s position, coupled with this idea that we should cross-train EVERYBODY, when NOBODY has settled down into one position of expertice.

    It can’t just be coaching though, we’ve tried “proven” O-line coaches like Pat Flaherty, Jeremiah Washburn, Chris Foerster (snort snort), John Benton, Steve Marshall and others. ALL of these guys came here with a ton of experience and prior success but all failed here. Whey?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It may be as simple as the players are either too young developing at the same time, or they’re simply not good enough.

  55. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Forget what the guys saying watch the video! look at the NT, he’s all over the center before Tua got the snap!
    oh the blind followers around here, how can different people look at the same video and be so opposite.
    this is what you get when you try to take the leftwing blindfold off these guys.

    try to lead the mule to water, you have a hold of his reins, dust flying, he’s kicking and snorting the whole way!

  56. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It is all Jonathan Martin’s fault! Giant pussy!

  57. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    For the record and I have said this to a few people before today

    I saw the blitz’s that were not adjusted to. I mentioned in game live that the db blitzes weren’t picked up and it’s not necessarily blocking that’s the problem when that happens

    I assume part of that goes on the QBs presnap, the coaches actually called out dieter, but even that said, I don’t think Tua is innocent on those plays

    But on the tua injury – that’s just Jessie Davis getting owned by Espenesa…actually it doesn’t even look like Davis is trying

    So stop calling me stubborn ORob. You are the one trying to blame a very bad effort by Davis on that play on Tua and that is flat out absurd

    I don’t need to watch a video of a guy who doesn’t know who is lined up where to know that

  58. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy and Cav ride again!

  59. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    ORob

    See this angle

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Wingfield calls it right

      On that play, the play is designed for Gesicki to clear out the defenders underneath, and then waddle cuts inside

      Waiting until the clock says .03 (which happens all the time in the nfl, but I hate) has nothing to do with what happened

      They were in shotgun on 4th and 2, and waddle motion to the slot – they were passing the ball

      The play required a little time to develop, you can see waddle skip on his route to slow down

      And Jessie Davis just flat out whiffs

      That is all that happened on that play

  60. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Everyone knows if an OL whiffs, it is the QBs fault. Like when a receiver drops a perfectly thrown ball, it is on the QB.

  61. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Cav

    Thanks for leaving that Cardinals crap on the previous blog 😒

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      LOL, just being nice 🙂

      If we had about 15 games left instead of just 9, I’d say the way we’re playing right now we have a shot at the division (we also just took the 1st of a double header against the cubs to make it 13 straight). Unfortunately it’s a little too late so we’re going to be stuck in a 1 game playoff.

  62. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 24, 2021 at 5:02 pm (Edit)
    It may be as simple as the players are either too young developing at the same time, or they’re simply not good enough.

    ***

    I think that’s right Tim

    It’s a guess, but we are all guessing at the end of the day

    We have a collection of young players at QB, WR and Especially OL
    It’s a lot to ask them all to play like vets and the bills really game planned early to throw in a lot of DB blitzes to confuse everyone

    It should have been easy to deal with and it wasn’t

    Maybe they just suck and are bad picks
    🤷

    But I know they are inexperienced. I know that when Jackson was drafted he was a raw talent with a high ceiling and I know Davis is the least physically gifted on tHe OL but The only vet

    So, that makes me optimistic….maybe we work through this

    But on that particular 1 play by Davis, I’m outraged, bc that goes beyond just not having experience

  63. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    It’s Friday let’s move onto the Raider game, ……. and the Brewers sweeping the Mets this weekend, and The Ryder cup in Wisconsin, and the Badgers beating Notre Dame, and, oh yeah music.

  64. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Piggy, those humans made me do it!

  65. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Let’s remember, the Raiders’ O-Line of last year was formidable, and they got rid of nearly all of them. This year, they look fairly good. The same can be said for the Cheifs after their loss in the Super Bowl… they nearly totally resurrected their O-Line without missing a beat.

    Why is it that it’s only US who can’t have a decent O-Line?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s not only us, many teams in the league have OL issues. The Giants for one. Their fans talk about that all the time.

  66. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Davis got owned. Even if the defense guesses right on the snap….which is something they try to do all the time…Davis should STILL have time to react to Epenesa and grab his ass at the very least. You don’t let a guy come free like that and get a free shot on your QB, ever. You take the holding call and move on. Any professional OT should be able to do at least that. Davis barely touched him. Completely on him….no matter what Tua did or didn’t do.
    ***
    The more I see these videos people keep putting up, the more I’m questioning our OL coaching. A young, rookie coach with a bunch of young OL. What we’ve seen so far hasn’t looked professional….maybe that’s because nobody in the room has much experience. I don’t know. Something has just looked off. That usually makes me think coaching or something going on internally.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Agreed and Agreed

      But I’m going to make some room to excuse the coaching – what choice did they have but to remake this OL with new players

      If you think about it we basically drafted a QB and his OL. 2020. Picking up blitzes are going to be a glaring weak spot and it looks like the Bills game planned for it with those DB

      I fully expect a lot of DB blitzes early from the Raiders

      We better get past this fast

      That said – that wasn’t what happened on that Davis whiff. That was just a Davis whiff. The coaches really can’t win: after letting Flowers go Davis is the only one with experience out there – and he’s overwhelmed by der wove players with much more talent

  67. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I loved the angry writer “piece”. Thanks, Mike E.

  68. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    So I haven’t talked about it on the board other than the one time I mentioned it over a year and a half ago- my mother’s cancer.

    She is stage 4 with uterine cancer metastasized to her liver. Almost two years ago they removed a fist sized tumor and part of her colon. They didn’t give her much of a chance to survive long term because cancer in the liver is a real beeitch. She was close to gone with the chemo treatments, we were watching her just waste away, and she wanted to give up.

    Well, the treatment started working on the uterine cancer, she started getting better. But they told her the treatment wouldn’t help with the liver, and after the chemo they put her on a hormone therapy to arrest any progression of the liver tumors, but it was only supposed to be a temporary solution.

    Fast forward a couple of months, they couldn’t find any signs of tumors in the liver, she was in total remission. They wanted to wait at least 6 months to be sure it didn’t crop back up before they removed her colostomy bag.

    I just got the call a moment ago, her surgery to remove the colostomy bag and reattach her colon was successful, she’s in recovery right now. She’s so happy at the thought of getting rid of that thing and to be able to live a normal life again. I’m crying at my work desk right now. I’m so happy and thankful.

  69. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    You know me. I’m not the type to rush to judgement on players or coaches. I don’t think this OL will be where they can potentially be for another year or two. I really don’t know much about our new OL coach, and I’m willing to give him time to develop too. I just think all that inexperience may be coming into play.
    ***
    These young guys are too athletically talented to be looking so bad. They’ve looked lost and confused, and I usually attribute that to coaching. The players say they like him but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a good coach. I’m in no rush to judge. This was always still a developmental year for me anyway. If they don’t look better and more consistent by the end of the year, I’ll be a little worried.

  70. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Kong,
    Great news! Glad to hear that your mom is doing well. 🙂

  71. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Mike E

    Another great write up! The first sentence is tattooed on us all.

    Kong

    Great to hear!

  72. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Finally some good news

  73. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    CavKong,

    HELL YEAH!!! GOD IS GOOD, as Bookman stated above! I’m so happy for you, my Brother!

  74. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Hey, my guy Elephant Rider,

    WELCOME BACK!!!

  75. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Nevermind (the album) is 30 years old today

    Soon it’s knees will hurt

  76. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Barry with the silver lining

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  77. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Mike E ON FIRE today … well done sir.

    Again , I am expecting to see an entirely different attitude from the team this week after getting new Assholes chewed all week ..

  78. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Steve: thank ya , will be good to meet ya …

  79. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Week 3
    HOWIE’S LIST

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬
    Herd 23-20 🐬
    Kong 27-24 🐬
    🐠 35-7 🐬
    New Age 27-26 🐬
    Rock 36-20 LVR 😦
    stanger 17-14 🐬
    🐖 24-10 🐬

  80. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Week 3
    HOWIE’S LIST

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬
    Herd 23-20 🐬
    Kong 27-24 🐬
    🐠 35-7 🐬
    New Age 27-26 🐬
    Rock 36-20 LVR 😦
    stanger 17-14 🐬
    🐖 24-10 🐬
    🦫31-13 🐬

  81. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob – It’s hilarious that you blame the QB for an O-line failure and the D-line getting a jump. Maybe the play call was obvious, last I saw, Tua doesn’t coach the team or make the play calls. That’s up to the coordinators. You go out of your way to place blame on those you don’t like, and that’s fine. Just own up to that

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      And Tua attempted four passes last Sunday. Seems Jacoby Brissett is what to talk about.
      Most important for next Sunday at least. But guess is gonna leave ORob with less to talk about next Monday. 🙂

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      The word you were looking for is repetitive! Not hilarious!

  82. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    I get hazing. Been part of it Both on the taking and giving end. But a 1.75 liter bottle of Jack? These guys should go to jail.
    ——————————————
    “Nearly eight months after 19-year-old college freshman Adam Oakes died of alcohol poisoning following hazing at a fraternity party, 11 people have been indicted in connection with the tragic event.

    Oakes, a first-year student at Virginia Commonwealth University was at a gathering at Delta Chi’s off-campus frat house when he was ordered by the older members to drink an entire 1.75 liter bottle of Jack Daniel’s whiskey.”

  83. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Shock G talks about flowing on the D-Line, and that’s a must. But we’ve also got to be flowing on the O-Line!

  84. Capt. Stubbs's avatar Capt. Stubbs says:

    Kong, so freaking GLAD to hear that about your mom!! I absolutely love the dolphins however they are and always will be second to that.
    FUCK CANCER!!!! So happy for you

  85. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Kong great to hear about your Mom!

    That’s a good win brother!!!!!

  86. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    ER – Thanks bud – Again, really glad to have you back, hope things are good for you my friend

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kong – That’s just fantastic news man. So happy for you and the family

  88. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    That’s what quitters say!

  89. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Awesome Kong 💪

  90. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Let’s blow the roof off this joint!

  91. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Good to see you ER

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