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Finsmob Unleashed 
Piggy,
Great comments and I completely agree. Like Steve said, I don’t see anyone on our team that could pull a Dan Campbell. My biggest problem with Flores is that he can’t bring talented people to work with him. I think firing O’Shea left a bad taste in potential OCs coming here. O’ Shead di more with less than the two we have this year.
It doesn’t seem like Grier and Flores ever communicate outside of maybe draft day? How can Grier guarantee so much to guys Flores wouldn’t like? I can’t see that…I think he does consult Flores but both have a bad eye for talent. Grier should be gone just based off mismanaging all those picks the last 3 years. Flores should be gone because he either doesn’t have a successful vision of winning football or can’t find anyone able or willing to implement it. He’s a DC that’s out of his league.
Regardless of the issues the defense is having, we’re not going to win games with the offense scoring 17, 0, 21, 17 and 17.
What do you mean? 😉
In our worst year ever what was the point average for each game? 17. We are flirting with being the worst offense in Dolphins history.
we will if we hold them to 16, -1, 20, 16, and 16.
Lol
ocalarob says:
October 11, 2021 at 9:26 am
Tua played last year, so he’ll be a sophmore this year, instead of trying to disprove my statements maybe you should focus on the teams strengths and weaknesses.
stop trying to one up me and post relevant stuff.
Thanks
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I don’t need to disprove the unprovable. You can’t ignore Flores’ first year and give him a pass then turn around and say that Tua sucks and base the rest of his career on half of a season as a rookie. That doesn’t track. I was giving you a chance to explain the double standard, just like the one you have with Brissett. I’m far from the only one who calls you out on it, it’s basically the entire blog.
You should also take the time to read what others write, because I’m constantly giving objective takes on this team. If you did, you would know that I agree with you on committing to the running game and putting the QB’s in the best position possible by doing so. I’ve made the point several times over the last decade. We don’t seem to have coaches that do it consistently.
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ocalarob says:
October 11, 2021 at 9:28 am
your constant attempt to discredit me leaves me thinking you don’t feel your up to my standards so you do your best to drag me down to yours.
stop please
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I barely talk to you Orob and it’s because you can’t handle the slightest bit of critique on the things you say. In fact, I even defended you against people going after you personally several weeks back. I wasn’t attacking you personally with my question. I was honestly curious since your statements were contradictory. I know you explained it according the way you see it, but you’re contradicting yourself whether you want to admit it or not. Like I said, I’m far from the only one pointing this out to you here.
If our Defense can get off the field, our Offense will have more opportunity and a chance to win the T.O.P. game.
Our Offense will have more opportunity with Tua back, for whom this entire Offense is centered around… not for Brissett.
If we’re getting close with our O-Line, we’ll be able to better protect the pass and block for the run.
Really? That has happened and the offense does nothing time and time again. Even when we have decent TOP drives it ends up in a punt or a FG attempt. The offense has scored 8 TDs in 5 games. Look at the CLE/SD game yesterday. Both teams have good defenses but the offenses had to get into a shootout. Our offense is incapable of that.
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THANK YOU!!!
Now we just have to worry about Davis on Tua’s blindside.
We’ve already played the two top contenders to win it all in our first 5 games. Guess that could mess with your record and stats.
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HC Brian Flores Monday October 11 media availability thread
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Flores on Liam and Austin: Did some good things, some things we can try to build on. Certainly some things they can do better.
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Flores asked what one thing stands out on the tape defensively speaking: Gotta do a better job in the run game. Says there’s a lot of things, but if there’s one thing it’s that.
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“I see this as potentially long-term.” Flores on Liam at LT and Jackson at LG.
This is what I was referring to yesterday “in game”
It’s not that Brisset was not the source of the problems yesterday, which is fair, he wasn’t really the biggest problem yesterday
But, wow, Flores had a really quick trigger with Tua last year. But he’s treating this situation much differently – and that doesn’t seem like good coaching to me
CavalierKong says:
October 11, 2021 at 2:11 pm
Now we just have to worry about Davis on Tua’s blindside.
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VERY correct.
That worked so well before
Happy Thanksgiving to Manitoba and Mrs Manitoba.
🇨🇦🍁🦃🥧
Thanx Herd
steveccnv says:
October 11, 2021 at 11:44 am (Edit)
It’s not about undoing the 5 week mess, it’s about stopping the bleeding
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I’m not sure what you mean Steve or if you are on the same page as me
For me stopping the bleeding is possibly having these guys out of position to do anything else with our assets
That doesn’t necessarily mean fire people now. But I think fates might be sealed already and if I’m Ross, I’m already looking for replacements and looking for an overhaul with some one who’s ready to come in in January with their own scouting department and vision and is ready to go
New Age says:
October 11, 2021 at 1:04 pm (Edit)
A lot of it is luck tbh. High TO rates are unsustainable and that’s why you try to make your run in magical years where it all just rolls right.
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100%
Don’t build a team that flies on turnovers to win
Sometimes that’s just luck
Build an offense or a defense
Then you get to that
Hindsight being 20/20 (or 2020), the proper move would have been to trade R1P18 (Austin Jackson) and R1P30 (Iggy) to move up to grab Tristan Wirfs (experience at RT), who went R1P13 to the Bucs.
We’d have had bookend Tackles in Wirfs and Eich, and solid interior on our O-Line.
But then again, Wirfs would have gone through what Austin Jackson has gone through with constant O-Line coach changes with fundamentally different techniques taught.
Our coaching sucks.
How do you know we’ve had fundamentally different techniques?
I think the biggest problem is we’re too young and not good enough at this time.
Austin Jackson came very close to admitting this publicly Tim
Or specifically, he went out of the way to deny it when he was specifically asked about 4 different techniques from 4 different coaches
I think a lot of us were hoping for a trade up like that for one of the 4 tackles
But I recall believing it was unlikely and maybe a 2nd first rounder is too much to move up to 13
The reason that late first is so devalued now, is bc they spent it on a CB they don’t play
If you said trade 18 and 30 (was it 30) for 13, it might be a little too much
But maybe you flip 2nd rounder or something
We all knew in the 2020 draft there were 4 elite tackles and a falloff after that
It wasn’t a secret then or now
Tim Knight says:
October 11, 2021 at 1:40 pm (Edit)
Regardless of the issues the defense is having, we’re not going to win games with the offense scoring 17, 0, 21, 17 and 17.
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Agreed
Why are we scoring so little though? That’s the question
Is it bc Tua is out? I don’t think it is. We may score more with Tua – but this offense is still a nightmare
If I’m guessing, they just didn’t build this offense the right way and set themselves up for these low scoring outings.
I recognize hindsight is 20/20 but drafting a young OL, asking them to quickly learn odd protection, having no balance at all on offense and filling your roster with speedy receivers isn’t really a great model for anything else then a quick striking offense that puts the burden on receivers to get big YAC
They can’t run the ball, although I like Gaskin a lot, I don’t think he’s going to carry the ball 20 times a game and rush for 100 yards. And I don’t think we can even combine running for 100 yards. Maybe a gifted athlete at RB can make tads happen when there aren’t yards – but they purposely stopped themselves from picking a RB early in 2 drafts now.
They can’t throw deep bc the protection won’t hold up. I like Tua but it’s not his strength to throw deep over and over again – and it’s certainly not Brissets
All they can hope for is for Waddle to break one. What did they think we were going to do – score 30 points on nothing but crossing routes and slants? Is this supposed to be like a Andy reid style of west coast offense. Even Andy Reid isn’t so dependent on short routes like that.
See my last comment to M13, the last sentence.
Well yeah that’s part of it
We are a young OL – I can see the personnel working out over time
But that’s still no way to build an offense: with a young OL that has to learn, no running game and a young QB
That’s where we are though. Might have been the plan all along, it just isn’t happening as fast as maybe the coaches thought it would. I think we all got caught up on the fast track based on going 10-6 last year. It’s not just the OL, it’s new and young players all over the place. These guys really haven’t played much together. It might be a take a step back season before it gets better.
They fucked up Tim. It’s probably true that’s it’s not happening as fast as they wanted – but that’s a huge miss by them. You can’t rely on having turnovers like last season to win games
Instead of asking an OL to pass protect so much, give them a run game
They made moves that demonstrated they thought the young talent was ready but it wasn’t and now that jeopardizes everything
Tim Knight says:
October 11, 2021 at 3:31 pm
How do you know we’ve had fundamentally different techniques?
I think the biggest problem is we’re too young and not good enough at this time.
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It leaked, Tim.
Like I said, the coaching sucks. And it’s probably on Grier that we have such a young O-Line with no experience.
Tim
In case you missed it
Thank you, Pigster.
I guess that’s not as strong as we would like to view it as an admission c it sounds like Jackson is saying he doesn’t answer questions about coaching
But he could have said, something along the lines of his technique hasn’t changed that much – instead he basically distanced himself from the question
Leaked by who where?
When they drafted Tua
The first thing they should have done is protect him
They tried to do the first part, they drafted an OL, but the 2nd part should have been to get him a running game, and they fucked that up royally
Even without Tua at QB, I don’t know what they are trying to do. It just seems super limited – throw a short pass to the receiver and hope he breaks it? Set up 3rd and 3 every few downs and try to covert 3rd downs the same way we got to 3rd and short with the same type of passes over and over again?
Some still say we should have drafted Matt Ryan in 2008 over Jake Long, to put behind our horrific O-Line. Guess what, the Falcons already had a fairly decent O-Line.
Can’t put the cart before the horse, and we’ve done no favors to Tua’s development.
Always remember DCS* (David Carr Syndrome). Build the O-Line first, then get your QB.
I think it could have been simultaneously the way we tried to in the 2020 draft
But it puts a lot of pressure on that young OL and QB when You don’t have a running game.
Agreed, Pig.
Somebody some time is going to claim Eich at LT and Jackson at LG was the plan all along. That person is going to have to explain why Eich spent so much time lined up next to LT Jackson in camp.
A good follow up Q is where are the Lochness Monster, Big Foot and Kindley.
We’ve played 3.75 games with a vet in Brissett and it’s the same issues. I see everyone looking for answers and scapegoats. The team is too new and young too fast. You want to blame Grier and Flores for that, fair enough it’s on them. There is no veteran core of success that we built on, we blew it all up and went very young. That said what success did we have with a veteran core to build on? This is the team we have and they’re not ready to play top teams. I’ve accepted that because to me it looks obvious. The Giants are going through the same thing.
Young is good…. until it is not. We could have brought in vets in places like the OL, but we did not. I think Flores want to build the team in his vision, like a college team. Now we are hitting the bumps on that road with that.
Yes! It’s not just Flores though, Grier is a major part of it. This was their plan and we have to live with it. We weren’t supposed to be 10-6 last year. The plan to continue to go young was still in place this year. We’re not a cohesive team at this time.
Yep — 10-6 wasn’t the plan. Think they were expecting 7-9 or 8-8. 10-7 or 11-6 might have been the plan for this year same time. But then a bunch of the draft choices are treading water.
This is not a developmental throw away year. We will have free agents this off-season, injuries next season and everyone else will be trying to get better all offseason. Every challenge we faced coming into this season will be there next season and there will be new ones.
They are regressing as a team. We look like the same team we fielded in 2019.
Nothing they have done has worked.
I do not trust them to implement a vision based on all the mistakes they have made in the opportunities they’ve had
And theyve had a lot of opportunities
It’s not a bump in the road – the driver is drunk. Do you want to ride with him for another block?
I actually see good things at times with this team. But we’re not ready to go out and win big games. This is what it looks like when you have a bunch of draft picks during a rebuild and you keep them and play them. You have to keep them and play them.
Look at the Bills and Bucs, they’re not made up of all young players and a backup QB. These teams went through the growing pains and are at a different stage. The Bucs moved on from their bust #1 QB and signed you know who. The Bills have been building around Josh Allen now in his 4th season. Tua hasn’t even really gotten going yet.
The Brewers freakin’ bats need to wake up. They’ve got 2 runs in 26 innings. I don’t want to see ATL in the NLCS.
So you want a NL Central team to win or just hate the Braves?
I just want a good NLCS, and I think the Brewers are a better team when they are on their game.
This now 600 pound Elk lived this way for 2 years (the wildlife officers caught him on trail cams but could never find). He was just hit with a tranquilzer gun and it was removed. He’s lucky they got him before he grew and the tire strangled him.
AAA Elk
He lived but ain’t gonna be too much of a hit with the ladies during mating season. They cut of his antlers to get the tire off.
They cut his antlers off, not the tire?
That’s what they did according to the article. Was wondering that too since they had him asleep…. but then never tried to cut a tire in half either.
Stupid fuckin humans! The tire is because of humans and so was the way they removed it. SMH
CavalierKong says:
October 11, 2021 at 4:28 pm
I just want a good NLC…
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TIFI
Remembering our old pal, Fin Fan Rob.
LOL
If we only had Charles Harris and Larry Allen… uhhhh I mean Ereck Flowers all would be good. LOL
Our team is cursed, I swear.
No the fan base is. 😉
Look at how quickly they call out so many people to blame because their team isn’t living up to their expectations. There’s a word for that and it starts with an ‘n’ and ends in a ‘t’. The word ‘fan’ derives from the same psychology.
Fin Fan Rob — now there is someone haven’t thought of in a while. He came to two Fests, including the first one. Strong in his opinions for sure. Then things seemed to veer of course (was worried about him) and then he was gone. He knows how to find the board if he ever wants.
He said he was tired of the nonsense here and left.
Do you remember some of his posts before then? They were disconcerted. Or some of the ones in general? He was not your normal poster.
Correct.
“Correct” was intended for Tim.
Tim Knight says:
October 11, 2021 at 5:46 pm
No the fan base is. 😉
Look at how quickly they call out so many people to blame because their team isn’t living up to their expectations. There’s a word for that and it starts with an ‘n’ and ends in a ‘t’. The word ‘fan’ derives from the same psychology.
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Earlier, you were calling out the team, specifically our Offense (while we were diagnosing our Defense). Now, you’re calling out our fans. Which way is it, Bro?
You said cursed. I don’t view the team as cursed, but the fans are. I said what I think the issue is with the team. The fans always remain the same. 😉
Personally, I think our fan base is one of the most vitriolic in all of sports. And on top of that, they blow with the wind.
Every fan base is the same. Even Yankees fans who have won more than any franchise in history.
I guarantee you there are Chiefs fans who think Andy Reid has worn out his welcome. LOL
Just for some clarity on how an NFL season can go, the Chiefs are 2-3.
Stupid humans???????
The Elk wouldn’t have gotten big enough to “strangle” himself with the tire!
The horns are like your fingernails (not exactly, but close), He won’t miss them in a day or 2.
Antlers are extensions of an animal’s skull found in members of the Cervidae (deer) family. Antlers are a single structure composed of bone, cartilage, fibrous tissue, skin, nerves, and blood vessels. They are generally found only on males, with the exception of reindeer/caribou.[1] Antlers are shed and regrown each year and function primarily as objects of sexual attraction and as weapons in fights between males for control of harems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antler
They couldn’t have cut the tire with the animal tranquilized?
I think you’re missing the point, man.
cutting the antlers off is harmless.
Slipping while cutting something off of somethings neck is deadly!
I didn’t even bother to chime in.
Yet you did. Yes I miss many points just like the elk. A tire is not impenetrable.
Have you ever seen what divers and people jumping in the water do to save marine life from human waste? They remove the obstruction not a part of the species.
The strangle was my word, but the wildlife officers said they were lucky the Elk hadn’t gotten bigger cause could barely get it off. But maybe that was about the head instead of the neck.
Love it when city folks think they know better than country folks.
Love it when country folks think they know better than city folks.
Stay in your lane, comes to mind?
wyoming85 says:
October 11, 2021 at 6:56 pm
cutting the antlers off is harmless.
Slipping while cutting something off of somethings neck is deadly!
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EXACTLY!
To be honest I would have shot it and put it in the freezer!
So I guess there is that!!!!!
Winner, winner, deer dinner!
I was guessing you would. But the wildlife officers put a lot of time, energy and our money into getting that tire off. 650 pounds of Elk meat. He wanders off the wildlife preserve and someone like you takes him down.
Tire looked like it might have had a little tread left! 🙂
M13, now you’re a mountain man eh? LOL
If you can’t tell (because I’m typing and not talking) I wasn’t trying to be a dick. Just a little clarification is all!
Everyone seems to have their panties in a wad lately for some reason??????????? 😉
Your hunter mentality when saving an animal because of humans being irresponsible is where we differ. It’s one thing to hunt, I get it. But a tire around the neck of an elk is because of slob humans.
It’s a we got crushed Monday. Way it works.
The tire was obviously the Elk’s bling
“Hey Sofia, did you see the oversized tire that Todd was wearing?! I swear, that guy thinks he is so much better than everyone else- so bourgeoisie…”
Some one snatched his tire!
Stanger, you said they had the elk asleep. That’s what I went with in the discussion. Why cut it’s fuckin antlers off and not the tire? I feel like sometimes the Twilight Zone has become reality.
I don’t know, but don’t think the rangers knew they were gonna catch the Elk. Maybe just ran across the one with a tire around its neck they’d been looking for two years and didn’t bring a power saw.
As Wyo posted, Elk shed their antlers every year. Way easier to cut off the antlers than the tire and it does no harm to the elk. He’ll grow them back next season.
That’s fine
But now there is an elk somewhere trying to piece together the portion of his life where he lost his tire and his antlers….
Bachelor party
This time
Please cut the tire….
Seems that one will slide off easy….. least if you put the giraffe to sleep.
THere’s a video
It’s in Kenya
They basically put him to sleep, lubricated his neck, forced it off (it didn’t look easy) and when he woke up, he trotted away, high as a kite, with no tire, wondering wtf just happened
Gotta think both the Elk and that Giraffe rode the little school bus to Dr. Doolittle’s School.
This is how stories about aliens begin.
“Dude, I had this sweet effing tire. All the chicks totally dug it. One day, I saw this bright light and suddenly passed out. When I woke up, my tire was gone, and my a$$ like all hell.”
It’s probably tires from the same car….lol
damn, there was supposed to be a ‘hurt’ in there, lol
I assumed that’s what was going on with his ass
Long,
The aliens misunderstood when he said he used rubbers when going anal.
LOL
I also think the tire was at fault for this Sunday Luckily, we saved that poor tire to put on someone’s truck. Maybe Robert Hunt’s new ride?
An Elk, a Giraffe and a tire walk into a bar…
and Flores hired all three to be triple Offensive coordinators, lol
Glad I caught up today…holy shit….lmao.
I thought antlers on all beasts were shed annually. Maybe they don’t.
It’s pretty disgusting/disappointing we have to “cut” tires off wildlife. Nice!!!!
I’ve got nothing for the Dolphins, maybe a spare tire…lol.
M13, for the record, I’m more suburban/rural than urban. Lived by urban, worked and played in urban cities. But I have plenty of experience in the woods, on lakes, rivers, streams, brooks, and the ocean, bays, intracoastals, estuaries and any other body of water. I don’t hunt but know quite a bit about the animal kingdom.
Humans are fucking disgusting. Anyone who doesn’t think the tire was the problem, there’s nothing left for me to say.
Compared to me and my city dwelling ways, you are not a city guy at all
You are pretty far from the city as I recall
No never far from NYC, just don’t live there. But yes I’m not a city guy. I just visit.
sad but true, there is a huge lack of empathy for the animals, other people, the air, water and environment
SMH
things they apparently dont need until they are all gone, then its needed, but too late
Wow
No wonder we have so many problems this season
Lmfao…perfect lifesaver for a Dolphin!
Tim Knight says:
October 11, 2021 at 7:05 pm
M13, now you’re a mountain man eh? LOL
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Nah, I’ve never been a so-called “mountain man”, but I’ve lived close to nature for much of my life. I’m not afraid to get my hands dirty and have fun. What’s more, who didn’t know that horns don’t grow back? I learned that in science class back in elementary school, for crying out loud.
It’s really not that difficult to understand, nor am I!
Not sure horns grow back, pretty sure antlers do. There’s a difference between the two.
I misspoke, good on you!
horns growing back wasnt the problem, the tire and the human was
the tire should have been cut off, the animal suffered enough already, without subjecting a wild animal to horn trimming torture, then trying to force a tire over its head
They just explained that the buck doesn’t feel the antlers cut and sheds them anyway
It’s not torture
I’m just being a smart ass and making light of an animal story…I don’t really see a lot of harm
Are you being serious?
good for them to explain it, but the animal didnt get to get his say on it, and now has his horns cut off
the tire is garbage, and it should have been cut IMO
Between the Urban Meyer story last week and this story about Gruden, there is some really vicious stuff about coaches lately in the news
https://twitter.com/nytsports/status/1447714077720055812?s=21
They ny times deleted its tweet and then reposted it
🤷🏽♂️
But here’s the current tweet about gruden
Tim Knight says:
October 11, 2021 at 8:09 pm
M13, for the record, I’m more suburban/rural than urban. Lived by urban, worked and played in urban cities. But I have plenty of experience in the woods, on lakes, rivers, streams, brooks, and the ocean, bays, intracoastals, estuaries and any other body of water. I don’t hunt but know quite a bit about the animal kingdom.
Humans are fucking disgusting. Anyone who doesn’t think the tire was the problem, there’s nothing left for me to say.
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Yes, the tire was the problem… and it was safely removed.
And yes, humans are fucking disgusting… you’ll get no disagreement by me, man.
Why on EARTH are we talking about something so arbitrary on a bloody football blog, I ask?
disagree on the safely removed part
i would have cut the tire off, and avoiding injuring the animals horns
They are antlers not horns
But if ya slip in cutting the tire off, you slit the throat of the animal. Then you have animal rights groups suing. Can’t have it both ways.
Why are we talking about this on a football blog?
saw an article from the gym that Tua trains at saying Flores has lost the locker room
but i dont think it was Tua, it was someone at the gym
When you cut the horns
LOL
A pile of horns? A horny pile? Wtf.
If you are going to cut the tires
Here’s my recommendation – never do it while rollerskating on a buttered street!
the animal has horns, or antlers if you prefer, because he needs them to ward off predators
they arent just for decoration, and they dont grow back immediately
now the animal has to try to fight off wolves ad whatnot with no horns, he might die
Problem solved
The wolves even won’t notice
By Jove, I’ve got it! Our team sucks because of tires, antlers, or horns!
Go join a PETA board, for crying out loud! SMH
I should have added a 😉
whats wrong with Peta? do You think their cause is just , ethical treatment of animals?
what if they preferred abusing animals, hard to see where that would be better
David, I’m an animal LOVER! That’s why I could never be a hunter. Yes, I love PETA, and for what they represent.
But for the love of football, why the funk are we going on hour 4 of talking about this matter, when it’s not even necessarily the truth?
hour 4? i just got here, lol
from one animal lover to another, its not fun talking about Dolphins football, lol
THEY SUCK
they have to win the jags game or its going to get much worse
Almost like you haven’t been here before. A topic gets going and it does. Did you think this was a football only blog? More like a bunch of dudes hanging out at a bar. You obviously can post about football any time you want. Open forum.
im not Peta nor am vegetarian, but i have to eat a plant or animal when im hungry
but i dont have to abuse the animals before i eat them, lol
I punch a chicken between each bite when I’m eating nuggets
Chicken are jerks
i think Chickens are cooler than the Dolphins, lol
the Chickens win sometimes, even a blind Chicken finds a kernel sometimes
Funny, you don’t have to eat an animal. For whatever reason, we are omnivores. So there’s that.
true, we dont HAVE to eat animals, but most of us do
i have to eat a plant or an animal every time i eat, sorry for their loss, lol
Jonathan Taylor is for REAL. NICE 76-yard rip against the vaunted Ravens Defense.
Piggy, I’m curious to see how the league is going to handle the Gruden situation. He wasn’t an employee at the time, so I’m not sure under what rule they can punish him.
I don’t think so either
When I first read the story though I was wondering how and why The NY Times had a bunch of emails from Gruden (for his days on mnf)
But then I realized the story was about an nfl investigation that has ended
Some one filed a grievance against him and the emails were between him and Bruce Allen (the president of the wft at the time)
Did Bruce Allen file a complaint against Gruden for his language? That seems a little crazy
And if the nfl had that information years ago, it sounds like they closed it already
So if people freak out about that and the nfl acts now, it’s like another ray rice situation where the nfl reacts to a story after it goes public after not taking action
This is relevant to our draft
Oye! I was really hoping to see Trey Lance crash the 49ers via rookie’s feet to the fire.
Would say this is bad for the 49ers and helps our draft position
Read today that when Garoppolo is ready he’ll be their starter and he’s about ready. They could change up down the road but don’t think Lance was the plan.
Didn’t they bench him in favor of Lance?
Garoppolo couldn’t play cause of a leg injury. Lance stepped in.
should the Dolphins draft a QB next year? i think they should
i was hoping they would draft one for Tuas backup last year, but they went with Briskett and Sinnett
Too early to make that determination, unless your name is Chris Grier and trades for Deshaun Watson.
With a day 2 or day 3 pick it wouldn’t be crazy
More like a guy to groom
I would look at Edge and OL early….maybe even WR…which sounds crazy but Fuller may not be here next season
Matt Corral
QB, Ole Miss
Height: 6-1. Weight: 198.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
Projected Round (2022): 1.
10/5/21: In 2021, Corral has completed 70 percent of his passes for 1,210 yards, 10 touchdowns and zero interceptions. He has six rushing touchdowns as well thus far. Versus Tulane, Corral completed 23-of-31 passes for 335 yards and three touchdown passes and also had 68 yards on the ground with four rushing touchdowns. In Week 1, Corral was very good against Louisville, leading the Rebels up and down the field as they cruised to an easy win. He completed 22-of-32 passes for 381 yards and a touchdown. He also ran for 55 yards and a touchdown.
6/24/21: Corral showed good development under Lane Kiffin in 2020, starting to realize the potential that made him a top recruit. On the year, Corral completed 71 percent of his passes for 3,337 yards, 29 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. The sophomore also ran for 506 yards and four rushing touchdowns. Corral threw interceptions in bunches last season, and cutting down on turnovers will be a point of improvement in 2021. Still, he showed big strides from his 2019 season for Corral, in which he completed 59 percent of his passes for 1,362 yards, six touchdowns and three interceptions. Corral has a really good skill set with arm talent, dangerous running ability, and upside.
Corall is expected to go mid to late first round, the Dolphins could use one pick on him instead of several for Watson
Tua gets a backup that will push him, may the best QB win
i feel like the team should close the door on the Watson trade, the new GM will need those top picks for the next 3 years
who would want to come here for GM,
if Watson flames out, and the team is devoid of top picks for the next 3 years?
I have no fucking idea how Deshaun Watson will improve our defense!
We score (maybe with our putrid offense) and they score on our putrid defense.
Perfect winning football! Lol!
exactly, we need those top picks to acquire more defensive talent
maybe even WR…which sounds crazy but Fuller may not be here next season.. Fuck , he’s barely been here THIS Year
yea, hes out again, sigh
😂
If Fuller could stay off suspension and injury list, he is a LEGIT weapon… think it’s only happened one year of his career though
And sadly (minus the suspension list), most of our players in the WR room have recurring injury problems.
Yep😰
Wow, just read Jon Gruden is resigning.
Schefter just announced on MNF as well
YUP
even though the Dolphins were in the super bowl with Woodley, they drafted Marino the following season..
hard to second guess that move, the same move could be made now
Tua is the starting QB, but the DOlphins need to bring in a top talent like Corall
to initially back Tua up, and challenge him for a starting position.
both QB would be on their rookie contracts, and only had to use one pick for the QB
i dont like the idea of Watson, full of baggage, depleting our draft capitol, and eating up too much of the salary cap
Gruden is an idiot, SMH
tHats really horrible for the raiders
Okay so this Gruden stuff goes back 7-10 years … why was it not brought out dealt with 2-3 years ago before he was allowed to become a HC again ?
Exactly, my man!
It’s as though somebody was sitting on it, just in order to strike at the right time.
After a 3-0 start 🤔🤡
Damn Hunts. ….
he sent the same type of emails as recently as 2018, 3 years ago
Gruden has to look in the mirror to find the one at fault, nobody forced him to send emails
he also disparaged Goodell, and im sure that partially triggered the NFL investigation as well
Yo, FUCK ROGER GOODELL.
I mean, “Let’s GO Brandon”!!!
yea fuck goodell, but goodell wasnt the one sending the emails, Gruden was, on his own volition
he made his bed and now has to lie in it
I’m just messin’ around with fun, y’all! 😉
I’m not privy to all, or any of it for that matter.. and yes he owns the words in the emails but why so far down the road , and why let him back in to the fraternity…
it was as recently as 3 years back, and it was discovered under a recent NFL investigation within the Washington organization
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its not a huge mystery, its just a man paying the price for his ignorance
why couldnt this come out right before the Dolphins game, lol
damn it
And EVERYONE disparages Goodell
+10000000000000000000000
Well that was weird , my FFB score was updated before Tucker hit the FG on tv …
That is how automatic Tucker is
Goodell takes alot of heat, and much of it warranted, but hes a much better man than Gruden, and still has a high paying job, lol
On Sunday, Gruden issued another mea culpa for a racist comment he made in a 2011 email about a Black players’ union leader.
In one email obtained by the Times, Gruden uses homophobic slurs to refer to the league’s commissioner and a gay player drafted by the Los Angeles Rams. That vulgar language extended to describe some owners, coaches, and sports journalists in other messages.
Gruden also called for the firing of a player who had protested the national anthem in 2016, made transphobic jokes, and swapped photos of half-naked women and sexist memes of female referees with other league officials and business executives.
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thats hardly acceptable behaviour in any workplace. and he could be facing charges for posting images of female referees in partial undress
So, racist comments were only seen in e-mails? I find that hard to believe. You are what you are and can’t really hide.
Did people around him just ignore it and enable bad behavior? For years? I would call that shit out in a second and you wouldn’t have to fire me.
its far more than that, read above
cant post sexist memes of half naked female referees and league officials
correction, cant post half naked sexist memes, TO THE league officials
thats job suicide
Mike Turico last night , who did SNF with Gruden for years, said he never suspected it and was always treated with respect and as an equal by Gruden … again not coming to his defence
Wow, I’m betting Mark Davis and his haircut gave Gruden the option- resign or be fired.
NOT sticking up for Gruden, but aren’t emails supposed to be PRIVATE?
not if Gruden was dumb enough to send half naked referees to league officials, lol
hes an idiot
Actually no. Emails are implicitly shared with another person which means there is a reduced expectation of privacy. Once you distribute an email there is no guarantee that it will not be shared and shared again.
good point, thanks
Yes, I get that. So is the recipient automatically considered the ‘rat’?
Bruce Allen apparently
Maybe the recipient. Maybe the recipient received it on a work email address and it got audited. I have seen that happen before
…..workplace email address,,,,
bingo, he sent images of half naked female referees to league officials, incredibly ignorant to say the least
i wonder if Ross will want to hire Gruden for HC, hes Ross’s kind of guy, sleazeball
nobody forced Gruden to send the emails, he chose to do it himself to try to hurt and belittle others, even sexually shame female referees to league officials
that doenst work in the workplace, dont try it, lol
Pete Rose got banned for life for simply betting on his team to WIN, SMH
screw Gruden, im glad hes gone, just not happy this didnt come out before the Dolphins game, lol
The Flying Pig says:
October 11, 2021 at 9:28 pm
tHats really horrible for the raiders
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lol agreed, sucks for the raiders, but they might be ok, they still are very talented
what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas? not in all cases, lol
Only if don’t hit SEND 😊
one should never drunk text either, lol
im sure Mike wouldnt let me post the half naked female referees in sexist memes here, right Mike?
lol dont worry , i wont, i dont have them nor do i want to see them
there are plenty of other images on the net, dont need Grudens second hand ones
The Rays have made it a game.
they were down 5-0, and came back to tie it up, pretty impressive comeback
David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
October 11, 2021 at 9:52 pm
Pete Rose got banned for life for simply betting on his team to WIN, SMH
screw Gruden, im glad hes gone, just not happy this didnt come out before the Dolphins game, lol
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To be perfectly honest, I’m more than sure that Pete Rose was somebody who used to sling the ‘N word’ around.
maybe he did, maybe he didnt, but he didnt send emails about it
and that wasnt what got him banned for life
I have no doubt about yer last sentence, the world was a different place then .. but I’m pretty sure he never bet on his team ..
Or against
MF, going beyond the racist emails, what about the half naked images of female referees he sent out, Do you think thats ok for workplace emails?
Im sure You wouldnt do it, nor would I
These are accusations, at least as it pertains to half-naked images of female refs. We’ll see how it all plays out, and as to whether it’s truthful.
Gruden is gone, and has admitted to some of it
thats what we know as fact, im sure the NFL knows much more
WOW!!!!!!!!! COLTS!!!!!!!
Very surprising,,, gonna cost me a survivor pick if this keeps up
lol they are kicking the ravens ass!
I didn’t bring up the elk/antlers discussion.
John Gruden would have cut its neck to get the tire off 🤡…. JUST KIDDING
lolololol good one
i think the knee was down, no fumble
PETA can suck a dick!
We were talking about horn/antlers because our team sucks and we can’t do shit about it!
If you want to confer with Piggy? The fact of the matter is some animals (just like humans) are dumber than shit!
peta needs to suck a dick because animals and humans are stupid, got it
lololol
I think the Elk was just … tired 🥁🥁🥁
That pun had an odor! 😉
😊
Colts were 0-3, then the Dolphins helped them get back on track, lol
this sucks
Jonathan Taylor: LEGIT!
lol ravens getting spanked
22-3
22-9, Ravens trying to get back into it
K what happened to the Raven INT ??
Oh…. I missed the TD run somehow , saw the INT on 2pt convert and thought that was them still going for TD.
The Colts were a playoff team last year.
wild card, but they had tons of easy games too
jags twice, jets, lions, bears, etc
thats 5 easy games in a 16 game schedule
also texans twice, and bengals
thats a total of 8 easy games
Indeed, and with “Old Man Rivers”… LOL
Kicker looks like a Hanson brother from Slapshot
wow, ravens blocked the FG
this games getting interesting
Wow
So now the Colts were a soft playoff team last year. Geez!!! It’s hard to win in the NFL.