Divisional rival game. Throw out the team records, throw out the last meeting between these two teams and also, throw away all the momentum of the 5 game winning streak. All that is in the past. What remains in front of the Miami Dolphins is a team that knows them backwards and forwards, there are no surprises, no secrets. Unfortunately for the Miami Dolphins, the one thing that the win streak afforded them was consistency. That went out the window when the entire Dolphins RB room tested positive for COVID. More unfortunately, it wasn’t just the RB room. We have potentially lost our star WR Jaylen Waddle as well as our star S Jevon Holland. Both of these players are huge part of what we do on offense and defense respectively. The pass game went through Waddle and the versatility and effectiveness of Jevon Holland doing everything from blitzing, to coverage, to playing near the LOS as a LB has been so valuable to the Dolphins. There is potentially good news as S Brandon Jones is questionable to return from ankle and elbow injuries Sunday. He’s logged 2 limited practices so it’s possible he can suit up. Jones isn’t Holland, but if I had to pick one of our safeties to replace Holland, it would be Jones.
Back to the consistency thing. We need Deiter in there at C and we need him to play well. We’ve had 3 different centers this season though I believe we’ve seen the last of C Austin Reiter who was waived this week. Greg Mancz who we picked up from the Ravens is IR/DFR which means he’s off the IR and designated for return. He’ll likely be the backup this week to Deiter who is wearing a precautionary walking boot. I’m really hoping Myles Gaskin can play. We know his limitations, as do the Jets, but he gives the offense some consistency which is much needed this week. If Waddle is OUT, and it sure looks that’ll be the case, DeVante Parker who is being rested this week and not practicing will hopefully be wearing his Superman costume under his uniform. The WR corps will be Parker, Wilson, Hollins, Ford and Williams. I would imagine TE Mike Gesicki would be in line for a heavy dose of targets this week although it’s difficult to say that with certainty since his targets have been anything but consistent.
Our defense will have to set the tone, and they have been doing that during the duration of this five game win streak. There won’t be the statue-like Joe Flacco at QB this week, it will be the much more mobile, much less experienced rookie QB Zach Wilson. To be fair, Flacco carved up our defense pretty well but ultimately it was his lack of escapability that did him in. Zach Wilson can move, but pressure will cause errors in judgement and poor throws. We need Emmanuel Ogbah, Jaelan Phillips, Andrew Van Ginkel to keep up their relentless pass rush. All of these guys have been killing it the last few games. If S Jevon Holland is OUT, hopefully Brandon Jones can step in and get the job done.
The Jets will likely get a boost for their run game as rookie RB Michael Carter will be coming off IR this week. Carter has played well this season and has been a definite bright spot in their offense. Bad news for the Jets is WR Elijah Moore is on IR and will not be able to play Sunday. He’s been the bright spot in their passing game which now features Denzel Mims who is desperately trying, along with the Jets to get going. The Jets will rely a lot on Jamison Crowder, Keelan Cole and Braxton Berrios. Tevin Coleman and Ty Johnson have been splitting RB duties but if Michael Carter is able to play, he’s the one to watch out for.
I don’t care what this game looks like on paper. Yes, the Jets are 32nd in points allowed with 397 (30.5 PPG). They are 29th in points scored with 226 (17.4 PPG). The Dolphins have made significant gains in both categories during the 5 game win streak. The Dolphins are now 25th in points scored with 254 (19.5 PPG) and really moved up defensively to 13th with 288 (22.2 PPG). When 2 teams know each other so well, anything can happen, especially after having the win streak snapped by the interruption of the BYE week. What could have been a week to improve our roster by getting healthy has turned out be a disaster with COVID infecting too many important players. It will take a lot for Brian Flores and his staff to stay focused and find a way to overcome the obstacles that have presented themselves this week. Hopefully Flores has this team’s attention and they understand the importance of winning E-V-E-R-Y * S-I-N-G-L-E * G-A-M-E. There are no week’s off, this team must win the rest of their games or the season is done. Jets Head Coach Robert Saleh would love nothing more to end this streak and have the Dolphins join them as another team from the AFC East OUT of the playoffs. This game could be a nail biter, so fasten your seatbelts!!
PS – Some good news most recently from the Stanger camp. Jon has improved since my last update. Things are looking up so all of you BLOG Cardiac Surgeons can rest easy and don’t worry yourselves about transplants and the like. Hopes and prayers to Jon that he continues to improve and get out of the hospital able to resume a normal life.
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Nagy is gone. The Bears will blow it up and start over. Not a great place to be.
I think this is worth reposting. For those that don’t like too many scenarios, here you go.
If these 4 games go our way on Sunday, we control our own destiny (win out and we’re in no matter what else happens).
BAL @ CIN – CIN
PIT @ KC – KC
DEN @ LV – DEN
BUF @ NE – BUF
And I’d say the odds of this happening are pretty good, but the sea never parts for us like that for the playoffs
In a season where Will Fuller scores fewer TDs than Christian Wilkins anything is possible.
#Stangerstrong. Keep mending.
fuck will fuller, Like he fucked Miami, huge BUST!
4 receptions for $2.5 million each
this team had no problem throwing millions at losers like part time WIlson, and Fuller,
but wouldnt pay for productivity with Landry
maybe if Landry missed a few years , or had 100 LESS receptions a year , he would have got paid
Paying 15 million a year for Landry’s production would have been a waste too. None of those deals were good.
He’s making devante adams money for Cole Beasley’s production
That’s the first thing you’ve said in the last decade that’s made any sense (having less production and getting paid by us)
But since he did have the production I agree with SB7
Will Fuller had a set back alright. Watson isn’t coming. I can’t believe they threw away $10M on that POT
I can’t believe they have to pay him
Love it
I wish this was my job
For all the Tua detractors I am glad we didn’t draft a QB in last year’s class. Trevor Lawrence is struggling mightily. The Jets wish they had a gay lesbian volleyball player at QB because that’s better than Zach Wilson and Justin Fields is struggling as well. Trey Lance hasn’t seen the field and is the only one positioned to succeed because he is on a good team with a good coach, good QB and he doesn’t have to play right now
You’re nuts, if you wouldn’t take Lawrence over Tua, he has shown some bite, just in as bad of a situation as there is
Lawrence is the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck. It doesn’t mean he will be a good QB. Right now he is not and while I get he was thrown into a shit show he may be damaged goods at this point because of that
You had me at ” gay lesbian volleyball player ” lol haven’t heard that in awhile
You know he’s kind of into that🤐
I can’t take credit for that line. Mike E used it the other day. In response to Steve who the he’ll isn’t into that?
Ahhh Ken, missed that comment from Mike E.
Now it’s starting to make sense on Mike E. I knew there was a reason I liked him
Ugly game, however with the bye and hindering covid. I’ll take it. I actually thought it was a very entertaining game almost broke the 80inch TV in the first quarter though!!! I hope the covid protocols go away, because I believe we have a close knit team. Hard to come together on zoom calls although I believe Tim’s idea on a zoom meeting is good
A win is a win at this stage, that’s all many wanted going into the game, especially with guys out
How did Brady play the other night with his WRs out?
I totally agree on a win is a win. ” You’re only as good as your record is”
On Brady… love seeing him butt hurt. His best pass was the Microsoft laptop! Loved it!!! I think tua could of thrown it further lol
It is a good idea but even in the best of health Stanger wouldn’t be able to figure out a zoom meeting lol. Me either for that matter I’ll need help from my wife.
You can just come over to my house we’ll both co-host it
I do like the idea of a Zoom meet up at some point
What exactly is Zoom? Is it like Yoohoo? Whatever, I’m down.
Exactly lol
Maybe we can do a pregame meet up the night before the Pats game? Gives us a couple of weeks to figure this out
Maybe not the bust we thought. Just a late bloomer.
— Hats off to former Dolphins first-round pick Charles Harris, who’s having himself a really good season in Detroit. Harris, who was a major disappointment in Miami, had a career-high 12 tackles (exactly double his previous high), 1.5 sacks and 3 tackles for loss to help the Lions stun the Arizona Cardinals, 30-12. Harris now has 7.5 sacks on the season, more than twice as many as his previous career high of 3, set last year with Atlanta after he had 3.5 sacks in three seasons in Miami.
He is dead to me
Sometimes guys take w while and pass rusher is one of those positions where this a huge leap from college to nfl
Anyone remember these before the ball got booted through the EZ every time?
https://twitter.com/Ol_TimeFootball/status/1143363353525362690
I watched that live. Unfortunately I watched the end of that game live
I didn’t start following the NFL until Marino’s first year. So started a lifetime’s disappointment. LMAO 😂
PS Thanks for the Stanger updates Ken.
Accountability – works wonders!
Man, I hate Monday Night Football. I runs too late. I is 10x worse to stay up to midnight and watch your team lose than watching them at 1pm. Winning on Monday Night is better, but still you are amped up and can’t get to sleep for hours. I am “happy” when we don’t get prime time games.
▪ The simplest way for the Dolphins to make the postseason: Win the next three and hope Buffalo wins at New England on Sunday. If those four things happen, Miami would have a 99 percent chance of making the postseason.
Is Jacksonville’s offensive line worse than ours? Have they given up more pressures? Does his WR’s drop more passes than Miami’s? Is James Robinson 757 yds @ 4.7 yds per carry & 8 TD’s worse than any of our backs?
I think the answer to all these questions is a firm NO. So, why, pray tell, is it NUTS to take Tua over Trevor? Just going by performance.
Tua has shown a lot more bite as a rookie and this year than Trevor Lawrence has
If those are your determining factors, that decides who is the better QB, you go girl
I will go with wins
Wins are a team stat Ken, I’ll stick with EVERY OTHER MEASURABLE you can look at.
He did underthrow a sure Touchdown to Wilson on Sunday, needed 7-10 more yards on that throw.
True he missed that. Definitely his worst game of the season and we won. I always believe that a good QB is one that can beat you even when he is not playing his best. That is kind of what happened on Sunday
He’s a gamer that’s for sure
That’s a great “Stat” but when you look at it like this it’s not so impressive.
Tua throws greater than 20- 25 completions.
Murrey Throws greater than 20 – 42 completions
Herbert throws greater than 20 – 45 Completions
So it appears that the other guys have attempted nearly twice as many passes of 20+ yards than Tua has.
28 QB’s have completed more 20+ yard passes than Tua has this season.
I’d like to see some 2 back sets with Gaskin and Johnson in the next game. Both are good catching the call in space and both complement one another in the run game. Get some good PA passes out the backfield and churn out some yards through the air.
I agree. If we can run the ball against the saints and slowing down their pass rush is key.
Nice win. I really hope our oline can handle the Saints pass rush on Sunday. That’s a big key to the game IMO.
Monday
steveccnv says:
December 21, 2021 at 11:34 am
If those are your determining factors, that decides who is the better QB, you go girl
NO PERFORMANCE is the determining factor. Tua has performed substantially better than Lawrence through his first 14 games. I was just eliminating your next round of excuses. “But Lawrence played for a worse team.
58.1% completion percentage, 2,945 yards, 9 TD’s 14 Ints 5.8 yard per pass ave, 69.3 passer rating,
But he must pass your eye ball test….
😵💫
Oh performance, that’s your determining factor
Based on that logic Phil Simms is the best QB in the history of the NFL, and Griese is 2nd
Sims was excellent and Griese is in the HOF
Son, I posted these kids from Australia before. But I know how much you like this song so I needed to share it. Enjoy
#Stangerstrong.
👍
Lawrence has that ghey hair commercial out so Tua’s better
This is the best logic I have seen presented all day.
Pray tell I said……
steveccnv says:
December 21, 2021 at 9:35 am
You’re nuts, if you wouldn’t take Lawrence over Tua, he has shown some bite, just in as bad of a situation as there is
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As if Tua was in so much better of a situation here. Lol i mean i get we are fans of this team but you can look just a few games ago and you would see a probably worse shit show going on here. At least Lawrence didnt have to deal with the controversy of Watson being courted by his FO. Remember we got beat by that shit show just a few weeks ago. Their OL was also arguably better than ours was in the first 6 games. It definitely couldn’t be called worse.
What did Tua have to do last year to beat the Rams and other teams?
He also hasn’t had to score too many points to win
Last week he handed the jets 10pts, otherwise they score 14
The Jags are a train wreck
I like Tua, and think once we get things fixed our O is going to be great with Tua at QB, but I’m not going to say he’s better than several other QBs in the league
All good points
Good to see you D.
So Steve only has empty snarkiness as a response. No logic, no supporting argument, only his typical condescension and self superiority. U75…
When you bring something real to the argument I’ll respond with substance
Tua and Lawrence’s situations are different. Tua has had better coaching and a better defense. Lawrence has the better supporting cast on offense. Both are different types of QB’s. I’m not seeing a special factor when I look at Lawrence, but I don’t see a special factor when I look at Tua either. I still wouldn’t have replaced Tua with Lawrence. Lawrence has more physical tools, while Tua is more cerebral.
Tua’s advantage over all other QBs is the quick release and accuracy, once he’s given a better than avg supporting cast he’ll win a championship
He’s not as dynamic as Herbert, Allen, or Burrow, these guys will wow you from time to time, but don’t have the consistency
Tua can’t put a team on his back like the ones mentioned above, so beating the Bills is a real challenge
No QB is putting a team on his back, especially not the 3 you mentioned.
Look away, look away substance below;
Tua Tua tua one TD to Ints
Lawrence 14 Ints to 9 TD’s
Tua almost 10% more completion percentage
Tua nearly a yard per pass attempt more than Lawrence
Tua 25 more points in passer rating that Lawrence
Tua 24.8 more points in total QBR Rating
I can go on, but it’s not worth arguing with a nani-nani booboo responder
If we’re talking about right now, then yes Tua is a better QB, but last year Fitz was the better QB, so why is he now in Washington?
I am talking through the first 14 games of each QB’s career.
but you go girl
My original comment in response to Ken’s not taking a QB this year was:
You’re nuts, if you wouldn’t take Lawrence over Tua
So why are changing the subject?
My comment had nothing to do with what they’ve done so far, just the better prospect
It’s funny how people who are fans of this team say Lawrence is in a worse situation. How much worse than the worst pass blocking team can there be? Will you guys understand this issue determine thst Tua throws 5-10 yard passes all day. The defense knows it too yet we move the ball anyway. Instead of giving him credit we tear him down. Y’all would rather have him sacked 60 times or fumbling 15 times getting hit all day. Tua makes this offense work despite it’s handicap.
Not even close, just don’t make him out to be what he’s not
In your opinion has Tua been everything you expected, when we drafted him?
😉
Lawrence was to me, pretty much what Ken said, probably the best physical traits specimen since Andrew Luck, and yes he hasn’t gotten much coaching since he got to the Jags to help him acclimate. I do think, however, that i didn’t really think he was as polished as Luck was leaving college, As SB7 said, Tua has a better composure and understanding of the game, just lacks some of the physical gifts that Lawrence has. Its like comparing Brees or Brady to Rogers. I think its splitting hairs, good is good great is great and to try to swap an already good to great QB prospect for another is just gambling game, and personally id rather us look to what we have and continue to build around that than to roll the dice again and still have to ddo the same thing with the new guy. At some point ya got to commit to a path and walk it. This reboot reboot reboot thing just gets old and tiresome and gets us nowhere but perpetually rebooting.
D is on fire
Translation, D agrees with me, so he must be on fire
Also, who is Lawrence throwing to if we took him and ditched Tua? It’s not like we had a chance at Lawrence anyway, so I still don’t get where the argument is coming from.
It was hypothetical D/Rosanne
We aren’t trading Tua for Lawrence, like they’d make that trade
If they were both coming out at the same time I would have taken Lawrence over Tua but right now I am happy that wasn’t the case
Boy, that “Put a team on his back” stat is really hard to find. Closest thing I could find was QBREC which really is a team stat, but here goes Burrow 10-13 record, Herbert 14-15 record, Tua 11-7 record.
Again, throwing BS stats out to prove your point
as apposed to you just throwing out BS
At least stay within the context
Ask 100 NFL experts which QB they’d rather have and 99 would take Lawrence, but that doesn’t take anything away from Tua, he’s just not as dynamic
Can anyone tell me what our identity is on offense?
We’re trying to be the short, no pun intended, passing game team Brady was in the early years in NE
Cisgender?
My point in my earlier post is that it is really hard to hit on a QB in the draft. People are complaining about Tua who has won more games than he has lost and had a 2-1 TD to int ratio to date. All that teams that drafted QBs this year would kill to have that kind of production
Production and potential aren’t the same
Famous coaching saying: “your potential is going to get me fired”
True, but my response was, if you could roll the dice you’d be crazy not to take Lawrence
As I said above if they were coming out at the same time I would have taken Lawrence. Right now I am happy that wasn’t the case
Steve,
There’s cases to be made for both of them. I wouldn’t call anyone crazy for picking one over the other if they were both in the same draft, just like I wouldn’t call anyone crazy for picking Tua over Herbert. I wanted Herbert instead of Tua in the draft myself, but I didn’t think anyone was crazy for doing the opposite. They have different skillsets and both bring good and bad to the table. You pick one and build to their strengths.
potential means you haven’t done anything yet.
A real Einstein
you people keep throwing all these stats up in an attempt to convince yourself you’re right. Stats are for losers. you’re beating your chest now as to how good Tua is but he’s just one bad game away from being trashed by the same people. and i had seen a little of that in his last performance around here.
this offense has not been very good, we all know the D is carrying this team, not Tua.
I doubt Tua has the arm to take this team to a title, he’s limited, he’ll never survive against the big boys, a playoff caliber D will destroy Tua.
even New Orleans this week will be a huge test and they are just a middle of the pack team.
let’s see how he fares these next three games.
I truly don’t get what you mean about the stats. You routinely cite stats and created a few of your own. Stats are measure that is used to measure performance. It’s not the end all but it is a measure and it’s objective. It doesn’t matter if Lawrence has the strongest arm if he is throwing 2 ints for every TD
Stats are for losers. It’s much cooler to pee your pants.
because Lawrence throws have a higher degree of difficulty, nothing wrong with stats but you don’t rely on them for proof positive that the player in question is a hall of famer or a bust.
“look at his completion pct, it’s among the best he has to be great”
what you’re missing is he throws 3 yard passes.
Lol
By what measure do Lawerence’s throw’s have a higher degree of difficulty? How is that measured? Seriously. Do you measure it by yards in the air? Do you measure it by time in the pocket? Do you measure it against the blitz? Do you measure it against press coverage? Do you measure it against nickel and dime situations? Do you measure it by down and distance? Do you measure it against zone coverage…I mean it is impossible to make such a blanket statement without context hence where statistics become important
i measure it in throws over 20 yards! where’s the stat gorilla kong?
how many passes has Tua completed over 20 yards vs Lawrence??
Get serious Francis (Ken)
Tua is currently 3rd in the NFL in % of completions over 20 yards behind Kyler Murray and I don’t remember the other one ahead of him
35 for Lawrence
25 for Tua
I don’t care about percentages, he Tua rarely throws passes that travel 20 yards in the air, Lawrence does it all the time. that’s where the degree of difficulty comes in.
stick to the subject please.
Of course those are completions over 20+ yds, not travel in the air over 20. Not sure on air distance over 20+
attempts or completions? Kong
Again quantify how many he thrown vs Tua and that is a harder degree of difficulty
The 35 for Lawrence and 25 for Tua are completions of 20+ yds.
I am with Ken on this. What is degree of difficulty. Is distance of the throw the only consideration? That seems like cherry picking
The stat Kong posted is completions and doesn’t take into account yards in the air. The stat I posted is in regards to throws over 20 yards in the air
One time, in band camp….
another thing that concerns me is the Titans play Thurs, they have a week and a half to get ready for a home game, we’re coming off a Monday night game against the Saints, a short week in which we have to travel.
a tough road to hoe
That’s a messed up scheduling quirk to give us a short week when they get extra time.
They do that type of shit just about every year to us, yet teams like the cheats play 7 years in a row at home on Thursday, the Rams have no games against teams coming off of Thursday or bye
If it was early in the season, it wouldn’t be as big a deal, but to do that at the end of the season during what is almost certain to be a playoff run against a strong opponent…jerks.
One of several FUs the schedule makers threw at us
They should make the schedule fair, every team should play at home every 2 years on Thursday, every team should play 1 team coming off of a Thursday game, and 1 off of a bye, they should never be combined with a Monday Night game
I have this strange feeling that I’ve been teleported back to the year 2011 and onto Omar’s blog! LOL 😉
I say this with MUCH fondness and respect to all!
pheloniusphish says:
December 21, 2021 at 10:04 am
Maybe not the bust we thought. Just a late bloomer.
— Hats off to former Dolphins first-round pick Charles Harris, who’s having himself a really good season in Detroit. Harris, who was a major disappointment in Miami, had a career-high 12 tackles (exactly double his previous high), 1.5 sacks and 3 tackles for loss to help the Lions stun the Arizona Cardinals, 30-12. Harris now has 7.5 sacks on the season, more than twice as many as his previous career high of 3, set last year with Atlanta after he had 3.5 sacks in three seasons in Miami.
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Yessir! And Baldy did a breakdown of him earlier…
https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1473343669528940549?s=20
WHY couldn’t we even get close to this kind of production out of Charles Harris? It took him 5 YEARS and 2 teams after us for the light to come on? While with us, he was playing opposite of MR. CAM WAKE!
I heard he doesn’t have many passes that travel over 20 yards in the air, last i heard the count was three. i know of one to waddle, wilson, and Hollins
Parker, Gesicki and Ford too. It’s just not common.
Back to the same discussion I see. LOL
One thing about the deep ball. Do our WRs get open deep often? Do we run a lot of deep routes? We also know our OL struggles to block long enough to set them up. So it’s likely more of a team issue than Tua can’t or won’t throw deep.
However you want to look at it Tua is better than Lawrence
Completed air yards per completion:
Tua 5.6
Trevor 5.3
Completed air yards per pass attempt:
Tua 3.6
Trevor 3.1
Trevor has gotten more help from his WR’s
YAC per completion (after the catch)
Tua 4.1
Trevor 4.8
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TagoTu00.htm#all_passing_detailed
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LawrTr00.htm#all_passing_detailed
The YAC surprises me.
The YAC per attempt is much lower……LOL! (because the pass has to be completed for there to be ANY YAC)
Well by ORob’s measure Tua has a higher degree of difficulty
Steve – I think he’s been great under the conditions he’s played under. In that regard, yes, he’s been as good as I would hope. He plays winning football. He knows what he’s doing and is competent enough to do it.
^
And just imagine what Tua will be able to do with a competent O-Line and running game.
2 impending FA RBs for us to sign in 2022, career stats at the moment
Player A: age 25, 5’11”, 220, 204 attempts, 1038 yards, 5.1 Y/A, 7 TDs
vs
Player B: age 28, 5’9″, 210, 485 attempts, 2056 yards, 4.2 Y/A, 10TDs
Who is player A, who is player B, and who would ya take?
Without knowing neither looks to be a featured back
Those are career stats.
I am aware hence why neither looks to be a featured back
I read you wrong. I read you saying “Without knowing neither, looks to be a feature back.” LOL
The word should have been either in that case, but that’s how I read it. Kind of like saying let’s go eat, Grandma. Not let’s go eat Grandma. LOL
Relatively little wear on their tires.
Player A is Rashaad Penny
Player B is Duke Johnson
I’d take Penny in a heartbeat, only IF he can prove his injuries are finally behind him. Duke is nothing to sneeze at, either.
And yes, we have the luxury of seeing Duke perform with our team for the rest of our season. If he impresses enough, we may bring him back next season.
I thought B was Duke.
CavalierKong says:
December 21, 2021 at 3:34 pm
35 for Lawrence 14 games (2.5 per game)
25 for Tua 10 games (2.5 per game)
Can’t find a listing of ONLY 20 yards in the air stat, but Tua has a higher ratio for both completed and attempted air yards so it is simple deduction that he throws and completes a higher percentage.
Wash, rinse, REPEAT!
As Tua has proven, he can do miraculous things without a functional O-Line or running game. Now get him a ‘power back’ and a FA Tackle… watch him take it to a whole new level.
Can anyone imagine what Tua would look like with say, signing Terron Armstead and Leonard Fournette in FA?
That would be nice
INDEED, Hulkster… and we have the $$$ to make it happen, man.
Or should I say… we have enough GREEN (as in HULKSTER) to make it happen!
🤢LOL
I’d prefer we draft a power back like our version of A.J. Dillon. I agree on a vet Tackle and maybe even another vet C/G. I also think we need to add another play making WR to take some of the load off of Waddle. We have some other solid WRs, but we need more speed.
I’m not sure we need more speed (though it could never hurt), but rather a HEALTHY and a 100% available DeVante Parker. If we can find a DeVante clone in the Draft, I’m ALL for it.
Speed meaning playmaking ability. A Parker type would be good too. Anything that results in more big plays.
Would we want aaron rodgers ?
I think he may be leaving GB
I feel as though Green Bay bent their knee to A-Rod’s wishes, and their success this year is palpable… meaning, I don’t think A-Rod is going to leave Breen Bay after all. I think they could very well make the Super Bowl this year and even win it all.
LOL @ Breen Bay
I also agree Rodgers isn’t going anywhere except maybe Retirement. It seems like he learned the off season drama routine from Brett Favre if nothing else
Rodgers is one of the greatest ever and no doubt he makes any team better but I don’t think he is the missing piece. OL and RB are the biggest weaknesses. Rodgers is older and has such a small window to win now I would rather have a younger guy with a longer window to win with be it Tua, Watson or someone else and to me preferably Tua
Don’t eat grandma 🙈
Punctuation is important! 😉
I’d really like to see that Holland is back practicing.
No NHL players going to the Olympics!
Holy smokes, I just read that headline. The league is not allowing them to participate.
They’re also shutting down the season until after the holidays.
They love to sign those aging vets
Yee Haw!!!
Orob might even like our running stats!
The issues with our team is not the QB. It’s the OL and a lack of playmakers on offense. We have some good players, but who ever breaks a big play and takes it to the house? Hollins 65 yard TD catch was more pass 50 and run for 15, and Brown’s 24 yard TD run is the longest. That’s it.
I thought Waddle would bring more of that but it hasn’t happened yet. His 57 yard catch and run was close but DBs had the angle on him because they always focus on him.
An update on Stanger:
He has had a bit of setback. He has been reintubated and is likely to have a tracheostomy to help him breathe. He is back in the ICU. I will let everyone when I hear anything else
That bites!
Thanks for the updates
I wish it was better news
Damn, I feel so bad for him. All we can do is hope for the best. Get well Stanger!
I have no don’t Stanger will pull through, it’s not in his personality to let it beat him
We’re praying for you big guy
^
In 2023 the new TV contracts will add 100m+ to the salary cap, so 2 years from now the price for FAs is going to skyrocket
Belicheat gave the most guaranteed money this year in FA, is ahead of the curve again?
Don’t pay enough attention to how they write contracts, but if he’s putting the high part of the contract in the future I’d say yes, he’s ahead of the curve
Some other teams like Dallas, Buffalo an KC have done this too with their QBs
If we don’t sign guys this year in FA, that pushes cap figures to the future Grier needs to go
Don’t know if we still have a Dawn Aponte, but even so the GM needs to initiate the FA talks with pay it forward in mind
She’s been gone for a while. She works in the league office.
I know she’s gone, the question was do we still have a Dawn Aponte (capologist)
I missed the “a” until the third time I read that lol
Wow!!! People will go nuts with what guys get paid, but the market pool increased. I still see fans bitching about what some players get paid even if it’s now considered chump change.
Ogbah should be a priority. Gesicki will be in the discussion. Signing UFAs from other teams I have no idea right now. But we have a lot of cap in 2022 and like you just posted, every team will get a boost in 2023.
The key is to sign them in 2022, and defer the big money, before all he’ll breaks loose the following year
And no ($$) reason to let Ogbah or Gesicki to walk
I hear what you’re saying. I’m sure we have a numbers cruncher – capologist.
First thing they do is target what they feel they need to add in FA vs. the draft. Then what is the market? Do we sign one or two big time FAs or sign 4 or 5 significant contract type players but not the top scale? No Idea.
It always comes down to who is available. Do you overpay for good not great in FA? Do you over-draft for a position of need but the talent is not really there. That’s the challenge.
STILL HOPING for the absolute best outcome for Young Stanger. And we all know he didn’t get to his current high status in his occupation by giving up easily. He is one determined man!!
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On a somewhat related situation, when my 56 year old daughter’s outlook was particularly grim, she got even more hard-nosed about some things. She demanded PROOF that every one who came into her room had been vaccinated. Those that didn’t were shown the door! This particular Cancer hospital instituted mandatory vaccinations for all staff members. Those who did not comply were terminated and replaced. This policy withstood a court challenge and is now in full effect.
NOT SURE if Jon’s hospital has a similar policy or not. Clearly, though, his chances of a full recovery would take a gruesome hit if he caught the Covid. And, as for my daughter’s current status, she is now considered to be in remission. However, she’s not yet back at work as a research scientist. However, when she DOES RETURN, I guarantee all those at her research facility will be fully vaccinated.
Rest well tonight, Jon. Your very best days are still to come!
I don’t know what it’s like in every state, but in NJ the COVID spike has caused a ban on visitors vaccinated or not in hospitals. So it’s back to not being able to say goodbye to a loved one if they pass. A friend of mine is dealing with that with her father who is in his 80’s and has COVID. We’re in some very sad and difficult times.
It’s my somewhat NON-expert opinion that as long as we have vast numbers of people who are unvaccinated we will continue to have to deal with one variant after another. Only global vaccination can get this situation under control. Indeed, some diseases, sicknesses and illnesses, once thought to be under control, are making a comeback, particularly in rural America and in less developed nations around the globe. I call it the “Revenge of the Flat Earthers!”
OD, I held out longer than most getting vaccinated only within the last 2 months. But I got both shots and I’m now fully vaccinated. My “patience” about it was based on after effects and seeing what the results were.
Once I realized the people in my life were fine from it I said now it’s time. That was my personal decision. If I felt sick and had the COVID symptoms I would have adjusted my situation. But I wore masks, gloves at times, used wipes and washed hands when going out and about, I still do. That is still a good practice, but too many vaccinated people think they’re good now and act like we don’t have a pandemic even when they talk about how we do.
People are traveling again, going to big events and have no issue with being in heavily populated areas. That is what is causing the spike. You can be vaccinated and still get it and pass it onto others behaving that way. It’s more about behavior than anything else. People are selfish in all sorts of ways.
OD, so many vaccinated, including triple vaxed like myself, are getting sick. They’re getting it and spreading it. I find what the government is portraying is just not accurate. I think the one thing that is true is that those vaccinated are less likely to get very sick and die, which is why I got the booster shot. I get pissed when they intimate that non vaccinated people spread it and vaxed don’t. It’s horseshit. Triple vaxed people I know have just tested positive.
See my reply above to OD.
MIKE; Since day 1, the 3 major vaccination producers have had efficacy rates below 100%. INDEED, Jets’ owner Woody Johnson’s J&j Vaccine has a reported efficacy rate in the 60’s. So, AT NO POINT, did I get the impression the government was saying those vaccinated can NOT pass the Covid to someone else. FAR FROM IT. They DID say that those fully vaxxed are less likely to get hospitalized and die. And, like you, that’s WHY I’ve had all the shots and the booster. And, according to what I’ve read, no one who has had all the shots and boosters has died, although it’s just a matter of time until that DOES happen.
Taking the shots is just the smarter option. Even TRUMP admitted he’s had the shots and took a booster. He was summarily booed by some of his supporters for doing so at a recent event moderated by Bill O’Reilly.
Pulling fir ya Stanger🍻
This Omnicrom seems to be the most contagious, yet mildest , thankfully, version so far .. #’s are huge but hospitals are not being overrun
I guess I’m to stupid to understand the Earth is round because I live in “rural America”?
It’s fine with me for you to think that way. As I set out in the country and watch nature I’m reminded that there are truth’s in this world that most folks will never understand!
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I would think those of you who live in more rural areas would be in better shape. I live in a heavily populated suburban and close to urban area. People around here who don’t wear masks I assume are vaccinated and act like things are back to normal. At the same time many of them condemn the unvaccinated who may still avoid large crowds and still abide by sanitary practices. Even this is an issue to divide people with hypocrisy and propaganda running wild. I’m getting really tired of all of this nonsense.
Yes the pandemic is real. So are the hypocrites.
Being perfectly honest here, and as a scientific-minded individual: if said ‘vaccine’ does NOT prevent the acquisition and/or spread of a coronavirus, it’s NOT a vaccine… okay?
So what is and what is in this so-called ‘vaccine’? We won’t know for 75 years: FACT, and y’all can look it up. Suspect, is it not? Fear-mongering is winning today, and it’s sad.
This omicron variant displays nothing more than a runny nose, sneezing, or sore throat. AKA: THE COMMON COLD! Yes, the omicron variant is hella contagious… just like the seasonal cold/flu!
And unlike the original COVID-19 (which has had less than a 1% mortality rate), omicron is even less severe.
Quite honestly, y’all have a better chance of being bitten by a shark in Omaha, Nebraska, than having to be concerned about death via omicron.
It doesn’t always take 75 years to find remedies for illnesses. Even many years ago penicillin was a pretty quick discovered healing agent. We’re so much more advanced now than in the late 1800’s and early 1920’s.
Do you really know what the pathology of Omicron is?
A vaccine is not 100% never has been. But it does curb the spread of a disease. That’s what vaccines do. This coming from a guy who always feels icky getting one.
It does actually prevent the spread
The original variant is mostly gone. All the variants now are just mutations of the original virus and as long as the virus isn’t eradicated, it will likely mutate
The 2nd wave was the delta variant and the data on the delta variant demonstrated that the the “viral load” was the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated persons. Viral load is just a term of measurement which basically measures the amount of the virus in a body.
That fact, though, was misrepresented by many people to mean the vaccine was not effective – but it was. It lessened the severity of symptoms and duration of the virus, just not the viral load. So yeah you can catch and spread it, if vaccinated, but you’ll probably have it for a shorter duration which certainly affects the spread of it.
So that’s the real difference regarding delta
The booster is really not designed for Omnicrom – and as far as I can see, it doesn’t look anywhere as severe as delta, as you stated
But im sorry to say, and even if it insults you guys, it doesn’t change the fact, if the virus lives in you longer, you’ll have it longer and be more likely to spread it. And if the virus survives longer, it’s also more like mutate.
There’s an alpha, beta, delta, gamma already. Some are more contagious than others. Some are more dangerous. Omincrom seems very contagious but not as severe, at least early on – that’s what I have read.
A vaccine is not a button you press simply get a desired result. We are fighting a living organism. It will mutate, it will change. It will fail sometimes and it will succeed. So having this threshold where it just supposed to stop everything in it’s track is really just not anymore realistic than expecting a seat belt to prevent death from car crashes.
And just exactly WHY does Joe Biden and his handlers want 100% vaccination? 80% of the population has been vaccinated, right, yet it’s still spreading… but he blames it on the 20% who haven’t been vaxed?!!
That doesn’t make scientific sense! If one (or 80% of our population) has been so-called ‘vaxed’, they should be immune, right? WRONG! The vaxed can STILL acquire it and spread it! What’s going on here?!
Yet, the un-vaxed (20%) are being blamed by the current communist regime?
WHY does this rogue regime want 100% vaccination, which isn’t really a vax?
The Biden Administration is a disaster. They’ve contradicted themselves on the COVID situation and foreign policy since the primaries because of politics. Now they can’t answer a question about anything. They don’t have an answer.
This started as an update on Stanger and it has turned into a political debate. Just keep it in perspective please
I didn’t even see where a stanger update lead to a discussion of covid and vaccines
So for my part I’m sorry to engage if I did without realizing
You didn’t start anything and it was an innocent enough start by OD at 8:46 but then it steamrolled into politics. I know there was no ill intent by anyone
Oh okay I missed that
I thought it was just an unrelated discussion
Ken, this was based off OD’s posts about being a proponent of getting vaccinated. It’s not really about politics for me other than individuals making personal decisions. All I did was point that out. This is more about current events. It wasn’t about Stanger for me. That’s another issue altogether. COVID is not what has Stanger ill.
Is it just me or does Troy P. Look like a baby crowning from a 70s bush on that picture up there.
The Miami Dolphins were 1-7, and no NFL team has made the playoffs after being six games under .500 at any point in a season.
How about we become the first. 🙂
Just as an FYI and perhaps why I am little sensitive to the subject but 2 of Stanger’s ICU nurses have tested positive and there is concerns he was exposed
Fuck!!! I don’t know what to say. Get well Stanger!
Got everything crossed this side of the water. From what I have read, Stanger is nothing if not a fighter so has that massively in his favour. #Stangerstrong
This side of the water there have been 60,508 cases of Omicron recorded, with 129 needing hospitalisation and sadly 14 deaths. Individual reactions to Covid exposure have always been all over the map and are exactly that – individual. The worst usually happens when the body overheats in it’s reaction to the virus and the patient almost drowns from fluid in the lungs. I had the original variant in October ’20 and it was like a bad flu in my case with accompanying loss of taste and smell. The pneumonia I battled in January of that year was 100 times worse. The last thing Stanger needs is to add something else to fight off and I sincerely hope that is not the case, but in this worst case, the treatment is also now light years ahead of early ’20 when the first wave hit. He’s in the safest hands possible and has a lot of people rooting for him, in much the same way you did with your fight.
Thanks for the updates.
Tim, we do need that one more stud receiver. Can you guess who we need? Lol
JAMESON WILLIAMS!!!
6’2 with 4.3 speed
Go get him Dolphins!
Will probably have to trade up for him. He’s going to go top 10.
we don’t need that, besides i quit drinking.
Shout out to Stanger. We know you’re going to power through this setback.
So if we win a Super Bowl with Tua/Waddle, do we forgive Nick Saban or did he commit the unforgiveable sin?
He handled it very poorly but if he didn’t want to be there then it’s for the best that he left. Incidentally yesterday was to the day that he pounded on the podium declaring “I will not be the Coach at Alabama”, two weeks later he was of course.
Truth is, if we win the SB, Saban wouldn’t even cross my mind
What if New England wins one with Mac Jones? lol
Tim, that was my fear the last month on Jameson. His stock soared through the season. To think he was stuck behind Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson at Ohio State. This is his only year starting and I was hoping that would keep his stock down but he has shown the NFL world the elite talent and measurables are there. If he falls out of the top 10 in this weak draft, I will be super surprised.
Other options for a play making speedster are Garrett Wilson or the other Alabama WR, Metchie. Only problem I have with them is they are very similar to Waddle and not sure that is what we need as in another speedy slot.
isn’t it funny how no one wears a “Build Back Better hat”
Things that make you go….hmmm?
No, it was stupid that people went around with fan hats for MAGA. It is NORMAL for people not to be fan boys of political figures.
Did you ever see a Bush hat? A Reagan Hat? A Nixon hat? Clinton Hat? The whole cult of personality surrounding the con artist crooked businessman was and still is bizarre.
The differences between a Trump Rally and a WrestleMania event are barely noticeable, so of course they give the hats that much weight…
Didn’t hear anyone mention Obama hats or tee shirts, that I’ve seen plenty of
People buy/wear this stuff, because it’s something that moves them, so back to what ORob asked about Biden’s BBB
No one gives a fuck about the sham that is BBB
No, but this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJcuXmUKEdY
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Love this. And don’t think Tua’s OL didn’t either. Playing for each other.
Yesterday was the last time it was the 21st day, of the 21st year, of the 21st century
I hope you made the best of it
It appears that the dolphins are opening as 3.5 point dogs on Monday night. I thought it would be worse than that actually.
I know it was only a 9-0 win against the Bucs, but the Bucs have a pretty good Defense and Tom Fn Brady at QB. I feel like they were able to shut down the Bucs offense the entire game they should be able to stifle our week sputtering offense.
I hope I am wrong, but I just have that feeling that we are going to be doing a bunch of mock drafts next week.
lol @ mock drafts next week.
I just hope they don’t get embarrassed on national TV after all of these wins in a row.
NO D has made TB look horrible in the regular season the last 2 years, then gone back to normal the next week
Games before and after they played TB
2021 game 1 before beat a bad Seattle team 13-10, after lost 27-25 to Atl enroute to a 5 game losing streak
Game 2 before beat the jets to end the 5 game losing streak
2020 beat TB week 1, then lost 2 in a row. Game 2 came in the middle of a 9 game winning streak with Brees
Buffalo has in the past gotten up so high to play us, then gone back to normal the week after, mostly losses
NO has a very good D, just don’t look at what they did against their rival and think it’s going to continue, look at what they did the rest of the season or last 5 games
They won against the Bucs 2x, crushed the packers earlier this year 38-3, lost a close one to the Titans, beat the Pats by double digits and rolled over the Jets who gave us a hard time last week.
Some red meat for the animals
No he isn’t the problem, he’s part of the reason for the winning streak along with the D
I’d could say the soft schedule too, but earlier in the year, when we were losing, the soft schedule didn’t help get wins
What Omar is saying is true, but we still need to see it against a good team to think he’s the franchise QB and he has to beat Buffalo to get that monkey off of his back
he has never won a game against Buff so definitely need to get that monkey off his back! The panthers HAD the number 1 pass defense when we played them so there is that. You are right about the soft schedule not helping early in the year. Like they say you can only play the teams on your schedule though. The Saint’s D is pretty good and the Pat’s D is looking top of the league this year too so we will see in the next month what the offense with Tua at the helm can do.
Is Omar becoming a fan?? ??
Omar isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but he is a tool
Why might the 2 have the same yards per attempt average?
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out when 1 QB has a higher comp% it raises his yards per attempt vs someone with a lower comp%
The correct stat to compare would’ve been yards per completion, but some like to use stats to shock stupid people
There’s not a whole lot of difference there either.
Allen 10.9
Tua 10.1
from yesterday’s discussion Trevor Lawrence – 10.1
He hasn’t yet reached David Garrard status, but……..
Last couple of weeks, short sample size, I’ve been watching the air yards for QBs and mostly they throw short passes
The difference is Tua throws a larger % of his passes short and doesn’t have the top end deep pass talent to scare the DBs
I actually prefer Tua throw short passes, but I hate the 1 yard pass he throws with a defender in close proximity, sometimes its all he’s got, just don’t want him doing it too often
When Tua is throwing the quick 5+ yard passes he’s in his element, especially to Waddle
He needs to also throw the occasional 10+ yard passes to Parker and Gesicki to keep a D honest
LMAO!
Lol
LMAO
One pussy attempt at a tackle that led to a TD for the Jets
People saying the defense saved us and I thought they play pretty shitty especially early on. Piss poor tackling, they had several sacks that they just didn’t bring him down.
Well Skippity Dee!
I LOVE IT! Keep getting better guys. (it doesn’t hurt their efficiency that Tua has gotten the ball out in an average of 1.9 seconds per play.) YOU ARE NOT MIS-READING THAT. 1.fucking.9 seconds per play in November.
his average for 2021 is 2.1 seconds per play.
And that is with us STILL SEEING Davis on his back like a turtle 3-4 times a game!
Sucks Holland is still sick.
He doesn’t make the team better 🙄
It means he’s better than his replacement
We will see Monday Night just how much the offensive line has improved (or not) Marcus Davenport & Cameron Jordan can make an offensive line look, well, down right offensive. Can Davis and Eichenberg keep Tua upright against them?
Key is going to be those quick short passes to Waddle and or Gaskin
Cam Jordan to me is one of if not the most complete DE in the NFL. You have to be a damn good tackle to defend him, he just has too many options as a pass rusher to not find a weakness and exploit it if you aren’t well rounded. His pass rush strength is strength moves, but he can flip them into speed rushes and he isn’t too shabby with speed rush either. It’s gonna be a tough night for our OTs.
The Saints are calling for a “black out” Monday night, basically all their fans to where the all black jerseys. Miami should wear their all white throw back jerseys.
I don’t want to look too far ahead, but can you imagine if we DO MAKE IT to the playoffs and then to the Superbowl? What a Cinderella story that will be.
It’s in the hole
You know – they filmed that scene very close to the Dolphins old training facility near nova university off university. I used to drive by all the time as a kid and see Bill Murray’s shack
X got washed out on that play he didn’t puss out. Go watch it again. That little shrimp went up and in on the other side of X. Smart because he would’ve never made the corner.
I’ve never see X avoid contact and that was a high speed play, he had no opportunity to square up which is what he would have needed to do to be able to make that stop.
Nah man, I looked at it several times. I even froze the play to take a picture to send to Mike E HE CLOSED HIS FREAKING EYES AND CURLED UP to hip check him instead of wrapping him up in a tackle.
Steve, there are a lot of pass plays team runs on offense where I say why would you call that or at least in this situation. We do it too and I hate it but it seems to be a common thing these days. The play I hate the most are the really short ones to Gesicki. He doesn’t have quick twitch moves to make a guy miss and pick up yardage. As soon as I see it I say well this will be no gain. Gesicki needs to be moving to be effective, not stop and go.
Yeah, I don’t get it, but even worse are the ones 5+ yards in the backfield, where the guy is covered and it’s thrown to their hands instead of to their feet
Yeah those are just dumb.
Guy sat down at counter next to me today, he had brown hair and BIG red beard. He asked can I have a Ginger Beer please. I said under my breath you already have one and he heard me. Luckily he laughed and said BEER not Beard!
He shoulda kicked yer ass!!!
Lol he called Brissett – Jerome Bettis that was funny
Tim Knight says:
December 21, 2021 at 10:00 pm
It doesn’t always take 75 years to find remedies for illnesses. Even many years ago penicillin was a pretty quick discovered healing agent. We’re so much more advanced now than in the late 1800’s and early 1920’s…
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I don’t want to get back on this topic, but I either miscommunicated or ya didn’t understand. The FDA doesn’t want data on the COVID-19 vaccine to be made public until the year 2096 is what I was trying to communicate… at least according to what I’ve read and heard recently.
Things that make ya go hmmmmm…
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/12/09/fda-says-it-needs-75-years-to-release-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-data-to-the-public/
Oh okay. I saw that too. We were talking about different things. I don’t understand what government agencies do from time to time. It doesn’t make much sense to me either. It should be available in real-time. When it comes to public health all intel should be available. This is the problem when government gets too big. Government is not supposed to be a corporation. Its supposed to serve the people.
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Tua is our QB! He’s playing well but I still think he will get better. I don’t think he’s where he needs to be yet but the entire offense isn’t where it needs to be yet. But they’re playing better and they need to keep working so we can see who carries over into 2022. I think we can really improve on offense in one offseason with the cap we have and our draft. If we can add a stud OL, RB and WR along with some better depth, we could be a really good offense.
As could any team with a QB, that can get out of his own way
Not sure what that means based on what I said. Do you mean the QB not making too many mistakes?
You said, If we can add a stud OL, RB and WR along with some better depth, we could be a really good offense.
That’s almost like saying we’d win every game, if we scored more pts than our opponent
Don’t you think every teams O would be really good adding 3 studs + depth?
Xs and Omar, Hyde stumped by Os Q about Josh Allen and Tua having the same yards per attempt avg
Allen 4544 yards on 572 atts in 2020 7.9 ypa
3734 yards on 528 atts 2020 7.1
344 completions
Tua 211 of 302 2141 yards 7.1ypa
Allen isn’t having a good year, he isn’t getting a lot of Diggs yards over the top
Why didn’t O compare Allen’s 2020 season with Tua?
Tua has the benefit of higher comp% + Allen isn’t having a great season, he’s come back to the pack
Tua and our offense are not on the level of the Bills. The Bills have been very up and down this season but they’re better than us. They’ve been building their team longer.
Right now Tua is an efficient QB not losing games, making some plays and learning how to become a top QB. Our offense has been a patchwork and building process since 2019. It’s in its infancy. We need to improve in a lot of areas in 2022. But it’s doable.
What would our record be right now, if Tannehill was our QB?
I’d say he’d have been sacked 45 times and we’d be 5-9
6-8
That is what has been most impressive about Tua – sacked only 13 times in 10 games and 9 starts. Never sacked more than twice in a game. Pocket presence and his ability to move around and find another option is one of his strengths for sure.
Steve, I was saying 3 offensive players at those positions added to some of the good players we already have could make a major difference. This young team is getting quality snaps this year moving forward. I think we have a championship caliber defense. STs are usually good. My point was we can take the next step in 2022 without needing a whole lot. Grier/Flores have to get to that next level in 2022.