I know Brian Flores wasn’t perfect, I watch all the games and see this team play every week. Once the Dolphins fired Flores, it’s amazing how quickly the negative stories came out. Look, some of them are probably true, and others are just silly. I’ll never know the veracity of all of them and frankly, it doesn’t matter. I was ready to hitch my wagon to Flores and for a decade or so. I mean as a Dolphins fan, you just have to be tired of the turnover here. We’ve seen this now far too many times since the new millennium. In 2000, Dave Wannstedt was our Head Coach. In 2005 Satan, er Nick Saban took over. In 2007 we got the Cam Cameron show for all of 1 year, and with his 1-15 record, one year too many. Then Bill Parcells came to town with his lazy uninspired plan to fix the Dolphins for owner Wayne Huizenga. He brought Jeff Ireland (GM), Head Coach Tony Sparano, and OC Dan Henning and DC Paul Pasqualoni. Thanks Bill for your efforts! Near the end of the 2011 season, Todd Bowles replaced Tony Sparano. In 2012, as if Bill Parcells grand plan wasn’t uninspiring enough, Stephen Ross hired Head Coach Joe Phibin. Joe somehow was allowed to muddle through 4 seasons here boring Dolphins fans everywhere. In 2016, we hired Head Coach Adam Gase, that of “Offensive Guru” status. We was offensive alright. Maybe Ross realized that he gave Philbin one too many so he cut Gase’s tenure at 3 years. In 2019 we hired the young, fiery defensive coordinator from the rival Patriots. Yes, another Belichick disciple. Flores was given only 3 years, perhaps once again harking back to Joe Philbin getting 4 years. If you’re wondering, since the year 2000, the Dolphins record is 176-183. Uninspiring.
I’m not going to touch any of the stories circulating regarding why Flores may have been fired. We saw the offense as an ineffective unit. Flores’ defensive pedigree had this team’s defense ahead of the offense during his 3 year tenure. Not that the defense was a championship level defense, it wasn’t, but compared to the offense it may have looked that way. Our offensive line has been an issue for years and despite Grier’s attempts to bring in talent to remedy the situation, drafting OT Liam Eichenberg in RD 2 (#42) in 2021, OT Austin Jackson in RD 1 in 2020 (#18), OG Robert Hunt in RD 2 (#39), and OG Solomon Kindley (#111) in RD 4. In 2019 we drafted OC Michael Deiter in RD 3 (#78). It’s certainly not due to a lack of effort, but our 2021 O-line was ranked dead last at #32. Truth be told, I feel we have talented players on that line, but Flores’ choice of Lemuel Jeanpierre seems to be the linchpin. This is a unit that must be fixed in order for this team’s offense to be successful. I hope whoever the new HC is realizes that a great veteran O-line Coach is necessary here. Notice how I haven’t once mentioned Tua? If I could talk to him, I’d tell him this . . .
So now the search begins, and I really don’t have a strong feeling as to who the new Head Coach will be. I have to admit I’m a little concerned that we didn’t clean house completely. If Chris Grier was fired as well, you find a GM and then that GM hires the new coach. Now, despite not getting fired, you have the appearance of a GM who may be on the hot seat hiring a new Head Coach and that makes the job less appealing. As if having 8 Head Coaches in the last 21 years isn’t unappealing enough!!! The good thing Dolphins fans, is that there are only 32 Head Coaching jobs and we have an opening, so there will be lots of interest regardless of the aforementioned pitfalls. We have a young, talented roster that some coach is going to be thrilled to take the helm of. Plenty of money in Free Agency will be available as well, close to $70M. We have a defensive unit on the rise with potential to be a top 10 defense if the offense gets on track. Some of that $70M will have to be used to re-sign our own players. DE Emmanuel Ogbah, TE Mike Gesicki, WR/ST Mack Hollins, TE Durham Smythe, LB Elandon Roberts and DB Nik Needham. RB Duke Johnson will probably be taken care of as well. I think Ogbah is the top priority, he’s been great since he got here and is an important piece of this defense. I think Gesicki should also be a priority but it depends on what type of TE the new HC is looking for. If he wants a receiving threat TE then Gesicki will be back. If he wants a blocking TE then it’s more likely Durham Smythe comes back and Gesicki goes elsewhere. Mack Hollins is becoming a better WR and is invaluable as a special teams player. I also hope we re-sign Nik Needham, I like that kid, and he always exceeds expectations.
Defensive players like CB Xavien Howard, CB Byron Jones, S Jevon Holland and S Brandon Jones will be sure to help lure a potential HC here. LB’s Jerome Baker and Andrew Van Ginkel as well, and of course young DE/LB Jaelan Phillips. On offense, rookie sensation WR Jaylen Waddle is a great start, but the falloff is big after that. Free agency and the draft are going to both be used to bring in talent at WR to complement Jaylen Waddle. Running back has to be a priority as well and if you know me, I want to draft one, not overpay for one in FA. Draft a RB early enough to procure one of the best RB’s in this draft, add in one of the holdovers like Myles Gaskin, re-sign Duke Johnson and pick up a FA RB that won’t break the bank. How we proceed at TE interests me. I’m very curious to see if we keep Mike Gesicki and/or Durham Smythe.
Here’s hoping we make the right choice for our new Head Coach, whomever he may be. Here’s hoping this new Head Coach can be successful enough to be here more than 10 years. Here’s also hoping we made the right choice retaining GM Chris Grier. Here’s hoping for a full recovery for our friend Jon “Stanger”. Here’s hoping for all of us to stay healthy in 2022.
#stangerstrong
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
He’s short
I think so too
yep
Ball game
Knee down
So we are looking at about #26 now. No need to look until the rest of the games are played regarding SOS.
OMG, pick still alive
Prescott is an idiot
That may have been the dumbest ending I’ve ever seen. Cowboys = duh duh dumb
14 seconds at the 40. Take two shots at the endzone you moron
Exactly
Stupid
OMG our pick lost
Exactly
lol
Oh well, now I hope they beat the Packers. That, to me, is worth more than the draft position. Lol
That was really bizarre
crazy ending
It’s snowing here in nyc
It’s always pretty the first night
By tomorrow it’s going to be shades of yellow, grey and brown
You probably know the saying ‘don’t eat the yellow snow’, but I’d take it one step further and say don’t eat any of those other colors either…just my 2 cents…
So we’re talking about things to root for. I love that Minkah being on the Steelers gives me a reason to actively root against the Steelers. I was big into the Raiders and Chargers tying because that would have been a once in a lifetime event, but even more I wanted it because it would screw the Steelers and Minkah f^ckface, lol.
I wouldn’t even really be into this game tonight, but because of MFFF, I can’t wait, and hope the Chiefs whip them bad.
I can’t believe NBC is allowed to show the tomahawk chop/chant on TV 🤪
lol, no doubt we’ll get an article about the uproar
We were discussing how can they keep that going at supper
FAU ALUM AZIZ AL-SHAIAR, the 49ers middle linebacker, tackled Dummy Dak Prescott on the final play of the game to insure San Francisco’s victory in one of the wackiest finishes in NFL playoff history!!!
I DON’T THINK anyone thought that Prescott was a mental threat to Einstein, but this particular bonehead play will haunt him FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!! Too bad it had to happen to JERRY JONES right inside the humongous stadium he built to satisfy his humongous ego!!!!!!
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Somewhere Jimmy Johnson is LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF!!!!!!!!
BBM no snow but it has been incredibly cold.
Also if SF loses next round it was probably a whopping 5 pick difference in the late part of the first round when all the picks are about the same. It’s not a big deal lol
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Cowboys buddy sent me this … change the logo and it’s Rock !!
Nevermind
So Bookman becomes a 9ers fan , and I become a Packers fan
iT’S GONNA BE NEAR FREEZING in the northern suburbs of Tampa the next two mornings.
JESUS, what a PANSY I’ve BECOME since I’ve gotten well into my 70’s!! My Canadian relatives would disown me if they saw me WHINING ABOUT NEAR FREEZING TEMPERATURES.
Right, Manitoba??
I d never disown you sir , especially not so close to your Happy Birthday !!!
Nothing crazy in NE NJ so far, about an inch of snow and no crazy wind.
These strong winds, combined with freshly fallen snow, will produce a widespread area of blowing snow. Blizzard conditions are possible in the Red River Valley Tuesday afternoon and is likely to result in a deterioration of travel conditions.
Conditions will improve Wednesday morning as the winds taper off. Behind this system, another surge of arctic air will move into the Prairies. Overnight lows will drop to near minus 30 midweek, then milder temperatures will return to the region for the end of the week,
Currently 18 F..
The -30C is -22 F
I’ve been eating all the snow
Fuck you guys
Pig is as pig does
https://twitter.com/slaternfl/status/1482884132426428423?s=21
Happy B-day, Mr. Campbell!!! I hope it was a good one, my friend!
TJ WATT!!!
Come on- we got Charles Harris!
😆
CHEERS!
YES, Mr. Spikes, it was a great Birthday. She took me to her fav jewelry store and bought me a replacement for my 13 year old watch!!
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SEE, BOYZ, if you buy neat jewelry for your lady she may reward you with similar favors!!
I’ve found most guyz in their 30’s who are STILL SINGLE haven’t learned this valuable lesson!!
Excellent, sir! Happy to hear that!
TJ Watt was the 30 the pick in the draft
Year after year, some of the best players in the league are picked between 25-50
Pass rushers, WRs, and RBs especially
The only people making a big deal out of wanting a better pick seem to be the people saying it isn’t a big deal, lol.
There is a difference between not wanting to stub your toe and saying stubbing your toe is a fatal injury.
Nobody who is rooting for a better pick is saying the fate of our team depends on it, the world will end if we don’t get a higher pick, or anything dramatic like that. Nobody is saying you can’t get a good player at pick #26 or at #32.
We’re simply rooting for a better pick, and for some unfathomable reason some people have to turn it into something else.
I guarantee every GM in the league, and every potential GM, and every HC, and every owner, and every single person associated with any NFL team would rather have pick #18 than pick #26. Why on earth wouldn’t some of us fans root for that too? It’s pretty weird to call people out for something so fundamentally obvious.
I mean if we the fans got to choose which pick would you really say ‘give me pick #26 instead of #18? No, because that would be idiotic.
Why not call people out for wanting certain players or teams to win for fantasy football reasons? That is way dumber than rooting for a better pick for your team.
I’m not Trying to bust chops
But if you look at receivers, running backs and pass rushers there are just a lot of really good ones in the late first early to mid 2nd round
It’s surprising how ,any of the leagues best players are there
A team really just has to nail the picks
I can totally agree there, Piggy. You have to hit your picks no matter where they are and a good GM will get you a good player wherever that pick lands.
And I don’t think it’s weird to not really care if or pick is at 18 or 26. It’s not a requisite, lol. But I do care, and so do a lot of others, and I’m going to keep pushing back on the idea that we’re wrong for that.
Exactly
MF-13; Response to you just up the page a bit.
Gotta walk the greyhound and call it a night!!
Y’all have a better week this week!
Peace, Mr. Campbell! Be well, both you and the Mrs!
And truth be told, I might need to walk the Arctic Cat tonight. Got about 3 inches of snow and no sign of slowing down.
I am not broken up about it but I think it was just kind of arrogant of Grier to keep the SF pick and trade ours. Does it matter? Probably not but arrogant and unwise nonetheless
^^^
Did you know that Phi was adamant about the pick being ours Rosanne?
By the way apes, hulks and others
I say this every year about the late first, early 2nd round
It’s really the sweet spot for receivers and running backs
Both ayuik and Samuel in the game we just watched
Helaire in this game
Najee Harris was 24
The best RBs in the league are selected in that range if you look at leading rushers
Hulk always angry no matter where we pick
Pringle
BBMike and I have been talking about him.
I like him a lot as an FA target
Same here, Hulkster. He’d come much cheaper than A-Rob.
Wilson 2.0?
Hopefully not!
What do ya know, someone actually kicked off short from midfield, instead of blasting it through the EZ
Thought only Belicheat was smart enough to do that
Actually Pitt KR was stupid, he should’ve let it bounce to EZ
Did you guys see the roll of toilet paper on the extra point?
Yes- perfect timing!
Lol at Pitt thinking they did something when they scored
No reason to cover Kelce, Mahomes never looks his way. They blamed a rookie, but in my mind that was on MFFF. 😁
I’ll go with that Mike
I hear ya! And that’s also why I’m about finding the next Brian Urlacher… a 6’4″ cat with speed, who doesn’t just kill the run, but to cover these elite TEs.
Last year you had some tight ends close to Kelce. Waller and Kittle have taken a step back this season. Kelce is the best TE in football and it’s not even close .
Mark Andrews is really good too.
Normally I’d take SF over Dallas, but for our having their pick and Pitt over KC, but need KC to stay alive to beat Buffalo
Do you ever notice that so many times when a guy breaks free like Kelce did and a player gives chase and doesn’t dive to make the tackle? It looked like one or both of the Cowboys defenders could have had a shot at Deebo and the Steelers defender had a shot at Kelce too
Leave it to NBC to put the clown extraordinaire (Chris Simms) next to a Super Bowl-winning coach and great football mind in Tony Dungy on their program. SMH
What do you expect, NBC always trying to force shit on us
What do ya mean?!! 😉
Yessir, I’m 100% with ya, man!
Never heard of Jac Collinsworth but man does he look and sound like his dad!
That’s so funny Mike. I was wondering who he was last week and thought the same thing!
This game is about to be over. Pitt offense hasn’t score a point .
One more TD should do it
I’ve heard rumors that Big Ben is going to pull a ‘Brett Favre’, and continue to play in the NFL… obviously not as a Stealer*.
That stat line of his tonight (not to mention his regular-season stats) suggests that he’s finished.
Not a chance in hell he continues to play, but I know the rumors are just that
He looks done. Won’t be as many suitors knocking on his door as there was for Favre
I’m not sure there will be any market for him as a starter.
I’ll just beer everyone, lol
Most of what Mahomes does, besides throwing deep passes with the flick of his wrist I think Tua can do, once he gets a supporting cast
Pitt can’t compete with KC
Shocker huh
I’ll tell you what- I wouldn’t have minded Creed Humphrey @18. The dude is a stud.
This party’s over…
I hate that FN line
1984 I’m at the SD game we’re up by 14 in the 4th, I’m singing that song…you’ll know what happened after that
I hear ya, man… but Big Ben isn’t going to be able to turn the tide.
(Steelers get a frilly pink fork)
Better fork yesterday
LOL, and YUP!
KC vs BUF is going to be electric. Hope it lives up to the potential
F that just want Bills to lose
lol, well I can’t argue with that. I certainly won’t complain if KC whips them.
What would the score be now, if Pitt didn’t get that D td, and awaken the kraken?
Anyways, just glad lots of teams losing this year in the playoffs like we usually do in blowout fashion
Isn’t it nice that the cheats dynasty is over?
Don’t really want KC to win the SB, but no big deal if they do
You don’t really believe that the Patsie* dynasty is over, do you? Watch them snatch up Deshaun Watson… Robert Kraft knows a thing or two about clearing up charges regarding massage parlors.
Lol
But if they got Watson, big if, that would be a new dynasty
I’m just sayin’, Bro! And yes, I agree with ya that it would be a new dynasty.
It’s pretty creepy that everybody at Applebee’s knows my name. I haven’t been there in decades…
Kind of hard to forget a giant ape
Hey, quite literally… “CHEERS” (… where everybody knows your name!)! 😉
They keep a database of who likes boneless wings and who doesn’t…
LOL , 3 great responses
KC just toying with them now, but why reveal that trick play in a blowout?
They constantly evolve, so it doesn’t matter. They’ll have two new plays off that look next week.
To keep the next opponent guessing
There’s only so many great trick plays, don’t waste them
If we had gotten in we would’ve played Buffalo/KC would anyone be ok with just getting in only to lose in a blowout?
It’s a good question. If we knew the outcome was going to be 52-10 against, do you still want it?
For me, the answer is yes, let me have that week of fun and anticipation, plus playoff experience for the players and team.
I can think of exceptions though. In the same vein is Marino’s final game. I would rather we lost the week before rather than have that game.
Watching the Dallas game it showed Diggs and his 11 ints an all pro, but he can’t cover for shit, hate those kind of CBs, next year with 2 ints he’ll be rated the 60th CB
He got in on those INTs alone. All his other stats range from average to not good.
Steve, I don’t think KC looks at those as trick plays. It’s just the way they run their offense.
Next week, they might run the same thing but have two or three new option wrinkles off it instead, then again the next week; or maybe they don’t used that package, instead it’s 4 or 5 other packages that most would consider trick plays they’ve used in prior weeks.
But Buffalo will now have to prepare for that look either way because KC showed it.
I don’t think they look at it as ‘save this for next week’ because they always have another package, another wrinkle anyway and you just can’t prepare for it all. They do it every week.
JMO, Reid doesn’t confide in me or anything, lol.
Love him or hate him, we’re watching the last game of a future 1st ballot HOFer in Big Ben. It’s been one heckuva ride for him. I tip my hat to his career.
Like Brady and Montana he landed in the right franchise otherwise things wouldn’t have been so fortunate
Brady “landed” perfectly once and then “chose” just as well the 2nd time.
Ben was something the league hadn’t seen before a fucking LB at QB and someone with the pure strength to escape pressure and hurl a ball 60 yards with a guy wrapped around his waist. Physically just an incredible player at that position. I can still judge a person on a HoF career because he didn’t act like a HoF person.
Watching these playoffs when our team isn’t playing is tough enough, but knowing we probably won’t have a coach for a while is making it worse.
Cav put on Ann’s panties and pretend your a big girl. Not saying y’all are wrong for wanting a better pick I’m just pointing out that it’s not that big a deal. I’m trying to talk you off that skyscraper before the iddy biddy planes make you fall down.
So the oldest Fin Fan just got older…. Congratulations OD on surviving this crazy fuck panic and another disappointing dolphins season. Done of us get to start every year with a true experience for the success of our organization, you instead must endure another season of not stacking up. Seriously though the congrats is real if if the rest of it is tongue and cheek lol. Enjoy your day.
Planet not panic
Dn… Some….even if
D, I get where some of you are coming from. We will get a good player no matter where we pick in the 1st round. We can all agree on that. No one is ready to jump off a building because of where our pick is ending up. Are we going to miss on some players some of us really wanted to get? We will but we will still get a good player. There is nothing wrong with rooting against a team to get a better draft position.
What some are not taking into account is that this draft is the worst in at least a decade as far as top level talent, IMO. Talent wise, picking in the bottom of the 1st round of this draft will be like picking at #40 in other drafts. Especially last year’s draft.
Right. Another way to look at it is this way : I’m giving you the choice of the #15 pick or the # 25 pick. I think we know what everyone would say to that.
I feel like Philly consistently gets the better of us in trades. I would have made the play for the lower pick- maybe they did and Philly rejected it. They got Smith and the 15th pick for their #6 pick. That’s a pretty
Damn good trade for them.
^^ I actually wanted to stay and get Smith but glad we have waddle.
I don’t like the Bears putting in a request to interview McKenzie. I would guess that he has been a valuable resource for Grier to rely upon. He did a really good job when he was with the Raiders.
I actually just read an article that said the Dolphins would get two 3rd round compensatory picks in the next two drafts if he’s hired away because he’s a minority.
One in each one
Take him!
I don’t care about the pick we traded to get Waddle. That was last year and it is what it is. We knew that coming into this season.
I just don’t see what is wrong to root against a team so we get better draft position in a really poor draft. If SF missed the playoffs we would have picked at #17. That’s what we were rooting for. They won and made the playoffs and we dropped 5 spots to #22. Not a major deal. We would have stayed there had they lost to Dallas. That’s what we were rooting for. Instead, they win and now we are at #26. If they pull off a miracle in GB, our pick will fall to #29. We will be rooting against that.
Some say there is no difference in picking between 15 or 17 (which ever) to 22, then, again, say it’s not much difference from 22 to 26. Then, will say again there is no difference from 26 to 29. In THIS DRAFT, there is a huge difference in picking at 15 or 17 and picking at 29.
The majority on here say we need to fix the OL in free agency and draft an elite WR in the 1st. A true potential #1 to compliment Waddle. You aren’t going to get that WR at #26 in THIS DRAFT but had a much better chance at #17.
So please excuse us for wanting that next elite WR to go with Waddle.
😉
It really depends. Williams being out definitely hurts is in that regard, because that’s one less WR to take. I think we can get Dotson, Olave, and Metchie there.
Obviously, I agree with you, lol. Unfortunately, I also think San Fran has a good chance to win in GB. It’s going to be a tight game.
This all started because some of us were actively rooting for the Rams to win in week 18. I can’t believe this is the elite Dolphins fanbase on this board (we like to think), and we have to explain and defend ourselves for wanting a better pick.
I am so nuts about this football stuff I refuse to play fantasy football or even weekly pools because I don’t want conflicting rooting interests; and forget about me going to a wedding or birthday party on Sundays during the season, not happening…and my wanting a better pick is where the battle line is drawn? lmao
As an aside, I’m also with you on the Waddle pick. I’m glad we got Waddle, he’s a stud, I don’t care we used an additional resource to make sure we got him.
LOL @ D. I’ll leave the panty wearing, girl fantasizing to you, my friend, since you have the nuances down so well you’re giving advice on it. Kongs are more like pigs anyway when it comes to undergarments and pants. We prefer to go unadorned.
Your panty proclivities and big girl fantasies aside, my point still remains the same as I am forced to say it over and over- I know it’s not the end of the world that our pick continues to drop. No one who cares has said that. I outlined that in near perfect English in my last post on the subject. 😉
The only people introducing the concept it is a huge deal are Tim and now you. You guys seem to want to tell us we think it’s a big deal, then tell us you don’t care, then can’t stop talking about how little a deal it is and how little you care about it.
Apparently it’s a bigger deal that some of us care than it is that we get a better pick, lol. Go figure 🤷
Why are you so defensive?
Because it’s a response to a post directed at me where I’m busting chops in return while defending my point of view. That isn’t clear? lol
SB, to give you a real answer to what I think you’re asking…D and I have bantered strong in the past and he banters and busts chops very well. He busted my chops and I think he’ll take my post in the spirit intended.
If I misread him, then I’ll apologize right now. I saw myself as giving a good defense of my point of view while strongly returning his banter at the same time, but if it comes off as mean, it honestly wasn’t intended that way.
With all that said (LOL), if we still are looking at WR at #26 my hopes are that Treylon Burks, Arkansas, 6’3 232 pounds and runs a projected 4.45 will be there. There are 2 others who have big potential that may be there, Drake London, USC, 6’4 210 with projected 4.48 and Alec Pierce, Cincinnati, 6’3 213 with projected 4.39.
Burks is a beast! Pierce is an interesting one with his size and speed to take the top off a defense.
There are other “names” out there who were #1’s in college who had to be accounted for but are projected to run over 4.5 40’s and I worry about their ability to get separation in the NFL. We already seem to have that problem with WR’s getting separation and don’t think we need to add to it.
My thinking is you either take Burks if he is there, take a chance on Pierce or London or take one of the top LB’s of Nakobe Dean, UGA (if still there), Christian Harris, Alabama or Brandon Smith, PSU.
BBMike
I don’t care that people are rooting for another pick. I’m not holding that against anyone….lol
But the idea that a team misses out on an elite prospect at WR bc they don’t pick in the top 20 is just wrong
In 2020 Justin Jefferson and Brandon Aiyuk are 22 and 25
In 2019 Deebo Samuel was picked at 36
In 2018 Calvin Ridley at 26 and cortland Sutton at 40
In 2016 Michael Thomas at 47
2014 DeVante Adams at 53
2013 Deadndre Hopkins at 27 and Cordarelle Patterson at 29
And of course in 2012 Ryan Tannehill at 12….lol
And this doesn’t even get into RB where the names are eye opening
This isn’t an anomaly. It isn’t tunsil wearing a gas mask. It’s likely to be the case bc of certain patterns the nfl follows every draft.
25-50 is always a sweet spot for talented skill players bc gms In the league value QB, OT, CB & DL/Edge players in the top 20 picks and that always pushes strong skill players down to that range
And teams picking in the first 15 picks are usually bad teams with new regimes, and those new regimes are either drafting their franchise QB or building up front
NFL gms are fairly predictable
If you are picking a WR in the late first, you might be taking a player with the same draft grade as the 3rd or 4th best OT that went top 15
This isn’t wishful thinking guys – this is the nfls pattern
So keep that in perspective
Now Im sure didn’t mean to be picking later, but if we were picking earlier, I might be honking trade down anyway
Instead I’m just thinking trade up with our 2nd and 3rd pick….bc I’m a greedy 🐖
BTW, on the defense side of the ball, pass rusher like watt or safeties like our guy Holland are good examples of this
I saw you mention the trade down yesterday, Piggy. Are you talking about wanting to trade down out of the 1st (regardless of where our pick is at)?
Possibly, it really depends how the draft shakes up
But if some one in the back end of the draft wants to move up and give up a 2nd or 3rd
Or even the ole belicheat trade out of the first round with a team picking early in the 2nd, we are still in that sweet spot and have increased our odds for multiple players in the sweet spot
I would rather have 3 players in the top 50 than 1 in the top 20
This isn’t a general rule but if we are looking at WR, RB and a 3-4 pass rusher, we have real good odds at hits in the piggy “sweet spot”
Bryan, I have been up in the air about Metchie. He seems to be that guy who has benefitted from having other better receivers on the field (J. Williams this year and Waddle/Smith last year). He is one of those I was talking about who are projected to run over a 4.5 40.
One thing I like about all these Alabama WR’s coming out every year is they all seem very good at getting off the line against man/press coverage and getting into their routes. Metchie falls into that same group.
Whoever becomes our next HC and OC, I would love if they hired Alabama WR Coach Holmon Wiggins. He was huge as a WR coach at Memphis and there is a big reason Saban brought him to Alabama 2 years ago.
I see a lot of talk about getting a WR early in the draft. Do you guys really think we need to spend our earlier picks on a WR? I know teams are not supposed to draft for need, but I think prioritization of positional need needs to at least come into it.
Main reason I was / am pissed about the Iggy pick. We had just made Howard the highest paid CB in the league and then brought it Jones as the highest paid guy in the same offseason. Sure, why not use that 1st round pick on a raw CB?
WE NEEDED RB’s & LB’s (and we still do!)
This season I see us needing OT, RB, C, LB in that order of priority (of need) What are the top 4 positions of need as you guys see it? In which order do you prioritize the need?
Yes
We need to open up our offense and we do that with big play guys
If we didn’t need that, Flores would still be the coach
Rock, I am basing getting a 1st round WR on the fact that we fix the OL in free agency. If we don’t then that is obviously off the table.
We can a really good RB in second round and even possibly at #100.
Piggy, I agree with you, but you are talking about previous drafts with good draft classes. This draft class is weak, so it makes a bigger difference than other drafts. This draft, 2nd round talent will get pulled into the bottom of the 1st round. Other years. first round talent gets pushed to the second round (Javon Holland, D’Andre Swift, Johnathan Taylor, etc.) This year, it matters more. Other years, not so much or not at all. My whole reasoning is based on this draft class. If this class was like last year, I would not even be talking about it……much. 😉
Piggy, I think that is an egg before the chicken kind of thing. We had big play ability at WR we just never called big plays. We had speedy Albert Wilson big target go get it WR in Parker, Williams and Hollins.
Our play calling sucked. We constantly stacked WR’s on routes within 5 yards of each other. There were no big plays built into the route combinations the Coco’s kept calling.
I may be wrong. I am often enough. But I think we need O line and RB more than WR.
I think we need RB more than WR in the draft, but we need WR more than O-Line because I feel we need to address it in free agency.
I do agree that our playcalling didn’t help, but we still need another wide receiver or two draft, FA) to add to the mix.
We need upgrades at all three.
YOUR PICKS
R1 P22 C Tyler Linderbaum – Iowa
R2 P18 RB Kenneth Walker III – Michigan State
R3 P34 EDGE Micheal Clemons – Texas A&M
R4 P16 WR Jalen Tolbert – South Alabama
R4 P20 OT Abraham Lucas – Washington State
R5 P15 LB Brenton Cox – Florida
R5 P37 RB Jerome Ford – Cincinnati
R6 P22 K Blake Mazza – SMU
R6 P30 DL Nesta Jade Silvera – Miami
R7 P3 FB Sean Dykes – Memphis
Love those picks!
Linderbaum at #26(not 22) Potential through the roof.
Really like WR Jalen Tolbert in the 4th. Small school but can’t look past his size and speed, 6’3 195 4.45 projected.
Walker then Ford!! Ford in the 5th is a steal. Then add a FB, you son of a gun!
OT Lucas in the 4th could pay off really well.
I think we have just one 5th round pick though.
Love that draft, but based on his potential and how well Humphrey is playing for KC, I think he’s long gone when we pick. We don’t have the teams clamoring for QBs this year, so the other positions will take priority. Now , if we were picking at 15…
Linderbaum
I don’t know if it is coaching, but we seem to really have issues fixing our oline through the draft. I would like to see us fix the oline in free agency this year. Sign a FA RT and at least one other oline position to inject some veteran stability.
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Yes, FART!
You’ve being pounding the table for FA RT Trent Brown, and I’m on board with that. Let him lock down Tua’s blindside. That guy is one big FA RT 🤣
Yep, me and Piggy like big FA RT’s. lol
Don’t know why Fanspeak shows us with two 4ths and two 5ths. I love Tolbert too. He kept showing up in my mocks so I did some research on him. Had surgery early on but was like 45% of South Alabama’s offense!
(Yes, I took my obligatory Full back and Kicker. LOL
From what I’ve seen with traded picks, we have 1., 2., 3., 4a., 4b., 5., 7a., 7b.
Yeah, Tankathon has us with one 5th round pick unless Fanspeak thinks we are going to get another comp pick there.
Fanspeak also thinks we have two 6ths and we don’t have even one.
Micheal Clemons is a problem child with a rap sheet and likes his weed too much, but I think if he gets his head straight at 6-5 / 270 he can do some damage in the NFL across from Jaelan Phillips
Although he probably plays DE in the 3/4 we use as base.
BBMike,
I agree with you in Metchie- I like Dotson a lot towards the end of the 1st. His route running is superb, he has very good speed, great hands and has a knack for making the big play. Plus, he’s a PSU boy!
Yes, Dotson is listed at WR4 on some boards and as far as WR6 on some others behind Burks. I got him at WR3 ahead of Olave and Burks. If he is there and we address OL in FA, you got to take him at #26 and that would almost be a steal, IMO.
Trent Brown didn’t have a great game against the Bills the other night, but I guess really no one did!
Yeah, I was keeping an eye on him and noticed that. Early on, no one was getting by him and saw him pancake the hell out of a LB on a run play but as the game got out of hand he seemed to be just going through the motions.
Tim, one of our 7th’s was traded to Rams and we have a 6th coming from Baltimore.
I’m going by this.
https://gbnreport.com/future-traded-picks/
The below link has our 6th going to Baltimore for C/G Greg Mancz.
Above link LOL
This is what Sports Illustrated shows us having.
Round 1 — Pick from San Francisco; own pick to Philadelphia
Round 2 — Own pick
Round 3 — Pick from San Francisco; own pick to N.Y. Giants
The Dolphins sent their own third-round selection to the Giants to move up from 50th overall in the second round last weekend to 42nd to take tackle Liam Eichenberg.
Round 4 — Own pick; pick from Pittsburgh
The pick from the Steelers was obtained Saturday when the Dolphins gave Pittsburgh their 2021 fifth-round selection.
Round 5 — Own pick
The Dolphins are in line to get a compensatory pick for the loss of unrestricted free agent defensive tackle Davon Godchaux, according to overthecap.com. Those picks don’t become official until about a month before the draft.
Round 6 — Own pick; pick from New England
The pick from the Patriots is the one the Dolphins acquired in exchange for wide receiver Isaiah Ford, who ended up not playing a game for New England before he was released and rejoined Miami.
Round 7 — Pick from Tennessee; own pick to L.A. Rams
That reminds me Rock- I didn’t love giving up a third to move up for eichenberg
This is GREAT!!! LOL
It would have been much funnier if they had done that with Pats fans after their game.
Absolutely correct!
LMAO, our GM sure makes it fun. Nobody except the world’s top mathematicians truly know what picks the Dolphins have in the 2022 draft.
Here is what pro football network shows
Round 1 (Pick 22* — from SF)
Round 2 (Pick 18)
Round 3 (Pick 36 — from SF)
Round 4 (Pick 16 & Pick 20* — from PIT)
Round 5 (Pick 15)
Round 6 (Pick 21* — from NE)
Round 7 (Pick 3 — from HOU)
*Pick subject to change based on 2022 NFL playoffs.
They note a potential 5th round comp pick for Godchaux not shown here.
The link I posted above has us getting a 7th from NE for Isaiah Ford.
That is exactly what Tankathon shows and they update daily. I think you are right, your draft simulator shows potential comp picks which is cool. Tankathon doesn’t until it’s awarded. Tankathon’s draft #’s are kind of jacked up right now, as far as position, cause it looks like they are trying to compensate for potential comp picks without actually putting the comp picks in. I believe they have it right as far as being accurate since they are same as PFN. I think they are the only 2 sites that show the same. Even thedraftnetwork shows different.
* means not settled yet because of playoff seeding.
Our 6th round pick was a conditional pick from NE for Isaiah Ford. I’m not really sure if the trade met the conditions because the cut him later and he made it back to our squad….
I hate Stephen A Smith, He should not have a job on TV.
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I feel that way about everyone who is on tv almost exclusively as a personality. It’s not about real analysis, it’s about hot takes, brash statements, and shock value- reality tv.
Basically we’re all trying to figure out what our status is in the 6th and 7th rounds. 1, 2, 3, 4, 4 and 5 seem universal.
Yes, with the potential throw in of a 5th for Godchaux if we get it.
We also POTENTIALLY may get an extra 3 this year and an extra 3 next year if the Bears hire McKenzie. These 3rds would be comp picks, not from the Bears which I misunderstood until I read the article on Dolphins Wire.
That would be great if we got a 5th for Godchaux but he signed a 2 year $15M deal with NE and we signed Adam Butler at 2 years $7.5M so I’m not sure if that would add up to a 5th.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cowboys-vs-49ers-dallas-fans-throw-trash-at-the-refs-after-heartbreaking-nfl-playoff-loss-dak-prescott-says-credit-to-them/ar-AASRdgg?li=BBnb7Kz
Apparently the fans were throwing stuff at the refs, not the players. Either way, Dallas coaches and players are taking no responsibility for that dumb call at the end of the game. It’s all on the refs according to them.
“When star quarterback Dak Prescott was asked about the fans’ actions, he initially expressed his disappointment thinking that they were directing their anger at the players.”
“But when he was informed the trash was aimed at the referees, Prescott’s message changed: “Credit to them.”
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Great message from a team leader
Sorry Dak, you fucked up. Own it!
Yeah Mike McCarthy said they practice that play all the time. I’d like to ask if they practice it with the QB setting the ball. LOL
LOL
Yeah, I’m not Stephen A’s biggest fan either… he is a ‘shock-jock’, to be sure. But him laughing his ass off over the Cowboys fans in defeat was hilarious to me! Poor Michael Irvin… AND Skip Bayless (HUGE Cowboys fan) over at FSN! LOL
As BBMike stated, it would have been better for us Phins fans to see that happen to Patsie* fans!
Not a big fan of his persona but I have to admit I have seen him do some really good interviews. I remember a few years back he did one Terrell Owens that was just outstanding. He can be a serious journalist when he wants to be. Sadly it’s not too often
Agreed, as I too have seen some good stuff (albeit rare) from Stephen A. I think what really made me laugh is that I’m so used to him being so, so serious. To see him drop that seriousness and break into maniacal laughter was refreshing!
I watched the new Jumanji earlier. I had never seen it because I figured it was garbage, but I actually thought it was pretty entertaining. Kevin Hart and Jack Black are hilarious.
So these are the names for HC that are out there now.
Thomas Brown, Rams assistant head coach
Brian Daboll, Bills offensive coordinator
Leslie Frazier, Bills defensive coordinator
Vance Joseph, Cardinals defensive coordinator
Mike McDaniel, 49ers offensive coordinator
Kellen Moore, Cowboys offensive coordinator
Dan Quinn, Cowboys defensive coordinator
Based on experience and knowing something about some of these guys more than others, this is my own order. Not that I know who will be the best HC for us.
Brian Daboll, Bills offensive coordinator
Dan Quinn, Cowboys defensive coordinator
Leslie Frazier, Bills defensive coordinator
Vance Joseph, Cardinals defensive coordinator
Mike McDaniel, 49ers offensive coordinator
Kellen Moore, Cowboys offensive coordinator
Thomas Brown, Rams assistant head coach
I’m not guaranteeing it, but I still say it’s going to be Jim Harbaugh as our next HC.
My choice? YES… Brian Daboll.
He’s a wild card at this time, I’m just going by who we’ve requested to interview.
Tim Knight says:
January 17, 2022 at 4:57 pm
He’s a wild card at this time, I’m just going by who we’ve requested to interview.
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And a ‘WILD’ card, Jim Harbaugh is! I do NOT want him to be our next HC.
Keep your eye on who the Giants hire at GM. If it’s a guy Harbaugh has worked with, that could be where he goes.
Could be. Hey, have you heard the Brian Flores and Deshaun Watson to the G-Men rumors that I’ve heard? That would be interesting should it come to fruition.
The G-Men do have two early 1st rounders this year to make it happen.
Yeah but without a GM it’s premature media BS.
Fee agency plan: 🐖💨
Kellen Moore probably went to the bottom of everyone’s list after yesterday….
He still lacks experience as a coach at any level. Not sure why some view Kellen Moore as some kind of hot coaching prospect… especially after inheriting Dak as his QB.
Calling a QB sneak with time running out is ridiculous
INDEED!
One play doesn’t destroy your entire body of work.
Look at Zac Taylor, he went fast track to HC.
Tim Knight says:
January 17, 2022 at 5:46 pm
Yeah but without a GM it’s premature media BS.
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ALWAYS!!!
+100000000000000
I continue to see a media narrative that Brian Flores and Deshaun Watson are attached at the hip… talking to one another several times a day.
Sorry, I’m not buying that. Steve Ross is the one who called Watson, and after it failed, Brian Flores and Tua went 8-1 after the fact.
Steve Ross is the culprit in question here.
Some media outlets are trying to say that Flores gave up on the team after the talks with Deshaun Watson fell through… WHA???
Don’t EVER believe the media!!!
They were all involved to one extent or another
Brian in NY says:
January 17, 2022 at 5:59 pm
They were all involved to one extent or another
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Agreed, but I’m seeing a trend of Steve Ross tarring and feathering ANYBODY who he fires… and that goes over the last decade. His track record speaks for itself… and also speaks to why he can’t find a decent HC.
My bad… I thought Brian Flores was a decent HC.
If Ross wants to use his power to BURN people on their way out, he’s not going to get a decent hire as HC.
His love-fest with Jim Harbaugh suggests to me that he’ll be our next HC.
Some of us (Tim and I) would appreciate Brian Daboll as our next HC… but Daboll has seen firsthand who Steve Ross is and what he’s about: himself. Not sure Daboll would ever accept a HC gig in Miami under Steve Ross.
For me Ross, Grier and Flores allowed the Watson rumors to stick around all season until the trade deadline was over. Flores was fired not because of the offense, but because he turned people off within the organization. It was a divorce – irreconcilable differences.
We’ll see where the Watson drama gravitates to this offseason. Then we’ll know.
M13, Daboll has accepted the interview in Miami. If he already had an issue with Ross, why even interview?
Adding to his resume’, my friend… nothing more.
I really want Daboll to take the gig! We’ll see…
I’m just sayin’, don’t be surprised if Daboll bows out. Hopefully, he doesn’t.
Yeah not buying that. Your allowing your anti-Ross campaign to cloud your vision. Ross gives the team everything it needs. That’s all that matters to football people. Ross only gets involved when something is not working. We all know he’s made mistakes but firing Flores wasn’t his own personal witch hunt. Flores apparently alienated himself from too many people in the building. Seinfeld covered that too. LOL
Our young roster, draft situation and top cap space is also attractive to a new coach. 🙂
Tim Knight says:
January 17, 2022 at 6:28 pm
Yeah not buying that. Your allowing your anti-Ross campaign to cloud your vision…
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I can only say that I hope you’re right, man! Time will reveal…
I think the relationships within the league are a lot different than how the media likes to portray them, and then fans jump on board. The opportunities to become a HC are these things for a coaching candidate:
Only 32 jobs total and 8 openings as of now.
Roster situation and resources.
How much power do I have and how much money?
I read that the Dolphins brass was in Buffalo yesterday to interview Daboll and Frazier. Not sure if there was truth to that.
I know the interviews were scheduled for yesterday but where they occurred I don’t know
They had him on their interview list, schedule a interview with him last week. My guess is it was true.
Probably more to get a feel for interest in person. I can’t see any big interview happening while they’re coaching the Bills in the next round.
LOL @ George’s swooshy pants. I need to go back and rewatch some Seinfeld episodes.
I don’t care about people rooting against SF for better pick, I just do t think it matters much. Again, none of y’all are hurting anything and that wasn’t what my first comment was about it was just that the difference in them winning that game doesn’t do much overall. Outside the top 10 maybe if it’s 15 you still grab a great player but really past 15 the guy you are getting is a player that in any draft you would get anywhere from 15-32. Y’all do you I’m gonna just wait for when the pick is in and start looking at who I think would be a good player there or if we really should just trade out and get more picks. I’m kinda leaning that way no matter where it ends up.