Dolphins “unofficially” agree to hire DC Vic Fangio

So far, two “unofficial” moves have affected the Miami Dolphins. The first “unofficial” move was the retirement of QB Tom Brady, which “unofficially” puts the Brady to Miami rumors to bed. It was also reported, perhaps prematurely by NFL reporter Tom Pelissero that the Dolphins had agreed to a contract with Vic Fangio, despite the fact the contract wasn’t actually signed by Fangio. Later in the week, there were reports Fangio was talking to both Denver, where new HC Sean Payton resides and also San Francisco, where the DC job opened up when former SF DC DeMeco Ryans left to become the Head Coach of the Houston Texans, who Ryans played MLB for 6 seasons. Both jobs are without question strong opportunities, but ultimately, it appears for the moment that Vic Fangio has chosen the Miami Dolphins and will officially sign after Super Bowl 57, or for you Romans, LVII.

Well, the Brady news is clearly just a matter of timing for Tom Brady, who was a great NFL QB, he might as well be a great promoter for his upcoming movie, in which Tom Brady is the producer, and the release date will be February 3rd. What fantastic timing!!! He’s good!!! Of course, Brady can “un-retire” at the drop of a hat, he’s done it before, and until I don’t see #12 on an NFL roster this season, I don’t give any more credence to this retirement. In any case, at least temporarily, Miami Dolphins can look forward to a healthy Tua Tagovailoa, who incidentally was cleared from concussion protocol February 1st, to be their starting QB. In case you were wondering, Tua is neither a producer or actor in the film.

Running with the assumption that Fangio will be our defensive coordinator, it will be interesting to see how we shape the defensive roster both in free agency, where we will be hamstrung money wise, and the draft, where we unfortunately lost our 1st RD pick due to “The Meddler”. The other 1st RD pick was traded for WR Tyreek Hill. The Dolphins hold 5 draft picks, one second round pick (#51), two 3rd RD picks (#78) and (#84), a sixth round pick (#164) and finally a 7th RD pick (#216). There will probably be a few contracts restructured in order to free up some cap space this season which will help in free agency, but I don’t foresee us being top spenders, we can’t afford it. Obvious needs are CB, RB, TE and after that, I guess it depends on what Fangio thinks of the current roster. He has to be happy to be inheriting Christian Wilkins, Jaelan Phillips, Bradley Chubb, Zach Sieler and Jevon Holland. I’m sure he hopes that Brandon Jones, Emmanuel Ogbah and Xavien Howard can all return to their former level of talent and come in healthy in ’23. Elandon Roberts had a very strong season in ’22, and actually fits the Fangio prototype at MLB, a stout run stuffer with a little sand in his pants. Despite being a little lighter, #55 who always does a yeoman’s job each and every season, we’ll see if he fits what Fangio likes, as well as last year’s first pick in RD 3, Channing Tindall. Hopefully he can work with both of them. The last item is if there’s any avenue in which CB Byron Jones can return to the team. It seems doubtful, but a healthy Byron Jones is better than most of the guys on our roster. Stay tuned!


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540 Responses to Dolphins “unofficially” agree to hire DC Vic Fangio

  1. steveccnv says:

    Fangio to the rescue

  2. steveccnv says:

    This is all we have signed on D, that played significant minutes or were rookies Chubb, Jones, Jones, Ogbah, X, Baker, Phillips, Seiler, Wilkins, Holland, Kohou, Crossen Tindall?, Goode?

    I expect us to try and bring back some LBs, also Trill and Needham, but at the moment our D is needing depth

  3. Rockphin says:

    Nice article MikeE. You didn’t need the editor after all. 🤓

    I wonder what Fangio is going to want to do with his assistants. Will he want to keep the linebackers coach and defensive line coaches? We already have some vacancies from the initial axe fall. I wonder if he is going to bring in “ his guys “ to teach his system.

    • Most likely he will want some of his own guys. Might be a mix of some new and some retained. However he doesn’t run any schemes that aren’t known. His claim to fame is how he calls the defense on game day. He mixes it up so teams don’t get too comfortable with some basic formations.

    • Mike E. says:

      I’d think he’d want to bring in his own guys, most coordinators do.

  4. LBs coach Anthony Campanile does have a connection to Fangio. He was the LBs coach in 2019 for Michigan under Jim Harbaugh and left in 2020 to get his first NFL job with us. Harbaugh and Fangio have a connection as we know.

  5. Wyoming85 says:

    not spam

  6. bailbondmike says:

    He comes out rapping like NF then transitions into like an EMINEM Rap God style then smoothly transitions into heavy metal. I think he is really talented.

    This is mostly directed at the haters in the “industry” and haters on social media from what I can take from it.

    The growling at the end he says:
    The fear keeps you alive,
    break the fucking chains,
    take back your life
    The fear is what keeps you insane,
    break the fucking chains,
    take away the pain

    Their videos always kick ass.

  7. mf13ss says:

    Thy Knight (@ThyKnight3) says:
    February 3, 2023 at 12:34 pm
    I forgot Roberts was a UFA so this would be the time to target another LB if we want to go in another direction. I think Fangio will have some say in that.
    Bro, why on Earth do ya think that I’ve been stating that we should re-sign Elandon Roberts if he wasn’t set to become an UFA (again, I thought he was about 32 years old… doesn’t matter to me)? And why do ya think I think we could upgrade from Jerome Baker with Tremaine Edmunds (further weakening the Bills) being we have a new sheriff (DC Vic Fangio) in town?

    It’s as if you haven’t read a thing I’ve typed over the last 4 days, yet ya want to heckle me… but, it does seem you’re catching up. What’s up with that?

    • I was talking about this need to upgrade at ILB that everyone is talking about as if Roberts isn’t good enough. I thought he was still under contract and you guys thought we still had to upgrade the position.

      I don’t know that I heckled you about that.

  8. bailbondmike says:

    What’s up with all these UFO “metallic balls” being sighted all around the world? There have been several recent sightings in the US. It is said that one was shot down in Russia recently.

    And, no, I am not talking about the Chinese Spy Balloons. BTW, why didn’t they shoot that fucking balloon down when it was still over water before it reached the U.S. or while it was over the baren tundra of Montana?

  9. pheloniusphish says:

    Don’t make excuses. This government is incompetent. They should have shot it down over the Aleutians. Nobody would have ever known. Instead they dithered and it became public. Then it becomes an international incident when they finally did shoot it down. The Biden White House is a disaster.

  10. steveccnv says:

    NHL All Star game now from Sunrise, Florida Panthers are the host

    Fun games 3v3 unlike the other sports

    • steveccnv says:

      The first game everyone seems to be afraid of being the selfish (thinking of Kobe taking 30 shots) asshole that’s trying to win the MVP, then game 2 they pick up the pace

  11. Good article on Chubb. He has the potential to have a big season and that’s what we need from him.

  12. Fangio is know as a master game planner and calling the defense on game day. He’s not big on blitzing but he does mix it up. It’s similar to how we approach offense, a lot of formations look the same but different assignments come from the same look.

    I was a fan of Boyer but Fangio is another level.

    • mf13ss says:

      Yup, Fangio is another level, yet a chef is only as good as his/her ingredients. I’m truly curious to see who we retain/re-sign vs who we may trade/cut.

      • mf13ss says:

        I think our D-Line is NICETY! I think our OLBs in Chubb and Phillips are next-level special. Jevon Holland has the potential to be GREAT.

        That leaves me wondering about a possible upgrade at the ILB position and our CBs… and maybe an upgrade of Brandon Jones, who I really like.

    • I think we have a good core of young players and guys in their prime for him to work with. Guys coming off of injury and UDFAs will be interesting to watch. Wouldn’t be surprised if we had 8-10 new players on defense.

  13. mf13ss says:

    I’d thought about Noah Iggy, and how he might be able to flourish in the zone-heavy Fangio D-Scheme. To my surprise, Iggy came from a rare college that actually employed man-to-man coverage in the FBS under then-DC Kevin Steele: Auburn.

    And that is exactly WHY Chris Grier drafted Iggy in the 1st round of the 2020 Draft: his familiarity and success in man-to-man coverage at such a young age (20)… very rare.

    Iggy’s not suddenly going to get better in a brand-new zone scheme, sadly.

    • mf13ss says:

      I DO want to be clear about something though… Fangio is not strictly a zone DC. He mixes it up with man-to-man, but he plays a predominantly zone scheme.

      If ya can’t play zone, this isn’t the system for a CB.

    • Agreed. Iggy is physically talented but the converted WR to CB has not really translated in 3 seasons. He does play a physical style of ball. Maybe he could settle in as a nickel/dime DB in a zone. The issues I’ve see him have is he’s covering his man step for step but he can’t time the ball and gets beat by talented WRs. Maybe he’d better with keeping it in front of him. I don’t know. I would not be surprised if he’s one of the cuts.

  14. mf13ss says:

    New Age says:
    February 4, 2023 at 6:24 pm
    I agree. We have a really nice core of good players. I’m hoping we find replacements for X and Jones really soon but solid defense and one I think Fangio can unlock a lot more than Boyer could.
    If we were able to trade X for a 2nd rounder in this upcoming Draft, would ya do it? While X is one of my very favorite players, I would certainly entertain as much before we can get nothing of value from him.

    X is a strict man-to-man coverage CB, and we’ll be employing zone coverage this season. X has knee issues, and NOW might be the time to trade him while we still can.

    • For me X is still a special talent who played through injuries and still made an impact. I don’t get rid of players like that. X excels in man coverage when he’s healthy but he has also made many of his picks sitting down in zone and reading the play. He can play in any system. We’ll see, nothing really surprises me anymore. LOL

    • bailbondmike says:

      Talking trade, too bad Byron Jones is coming off injury.

      • Sometimes you have to cut bait, take the dead cap and move on. It’s really hard to trade players off of injury. If you’re going to change the defense, now’s the time to bring players in that fit at the right price. This team invested to compete. We’re not overhauling and making crazy changes. We’re building on what we have. Fangio brings a wealth of knowledge about football. Not just defense. He’s a HUGE addition. Probably the biggest addition than anything we do in FA and the draft.

    • New Age says:


      I’d trade in a heartbeat. He’s always injured and hasn’t been the same since that one magical season. Honestly, I was pushing to trade him after that year because they never repeat it.

  15. CavalierKong says:

    Can you imagine how many more plays we’ll have to hold our breathe in fear of a flag, and how many more bad calls we’re going to see per game, if they ban the ‘hip drop’ tackle?

  16. bookman11 says:

    The hip drop tackle apparently has been outlawed in Rugby for a few years.

  17. bailbondmike says:

    Looks like IU basketball might be making a comeback. Way to bring down #1 and your instate rival!!

  18. bailbondmike says:

    Well, they finally bring the spy balloon down. After they let it complete its mission. Nice. SMH

  19. bailbondmike says:

    I hope they don’t outlaw the hip drop tackle.

    That’s how I initiate sex with my wife. 🙂

  20. boulderfinfan says:

    I can’t wait for next years fest lol

  21. Krishna says:

    I just read an article on PBP by Habib, I think, that Fangio was just hired as a defensive consultant by the Eagles about a week ago.

    Thus, no announcement of his hiring as the DC stays within the tampering rules established by the NFL.

    Hmmm…if this is true, maybe we finally got it right this time…lol

  22. Ken says:

    • bailbondmike says:

      If this just happened to Tony Pollard and not happened to Patrick Mahomes, we would not be hearing about it, IMO.

    • bailbondmike says:

      BTW, RB Tony Pollard was another player I had mocked to us back in the day. The last 2 years, he’s been the better RB between him and Elliot.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s stupid, might as well be playing flag football

      They already can’t tackle from behind in the collar, can’t use your head too close to head or neck area, can’t hit a QB low, can’t grab the facemask, but the ball carrier can stiff arm, grab the facemask, and OL can hold,grab, and pull off defenders in a scrum

  23. Mike E. says:

  24. Mike E. says:

    Cracks me up how partisan the classified document issue was. When Trump had them, Democrats were foaming at the mouth, JAIL HIM, JAIL HIM!!! Then Biden has a shit ton he doesn’t even know about, well, because he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing 90% of the time, but let’s just not make a big deal over classified documents, everyone has them. Carry on!

    • Ken says:

      No doubt Biden and the Democrats look foolish on the issue in hindsight. However the real disturbing is Trump refusing to give the documents back

      • steveccnv says:

        The disturbing thing is why we haven’t heard what’s in them

        Biden selling influence is for sure the reason, if he wasn’t doing something wrong we’d have heard

      • Ken says:

        They are classified you can’t hear what is in them

      • steveccnv says:

        Congress can though, and they can tell us about the corruption

        Why are you ok with the biden crime families ties to China?

  25. Mike E. says:

    Anyway, Biden falling up the steps getting bonked by mini Chinese weather balloons is fucking hilarious, so at least Biden provides something good for the country, a little comic relief! lol

  26. I was watching football with some friends during the championship games and one them starting talking about politics and his hatred for Trump while dismissing all things Biden. He mentioned how people make a big deal about Biden’s weird hugs, sniffs and kisses with women and children. A couple of us said well it is creepy. He retorted with Trump has been accused of raping women. I then said well as serious as that is, we don’t know if that’s true or not, but Biden has been on video doing his creepy shit.

    It’s just another example of how people are willing to turn the other way when they’re all in with their political party. Call them all out when it’s fact that they did this or that. Anti-Trump people are just as bad as pro-Trump supporters. They see and hear what they want to, allowing facts to go by the wayside. That’s the problem we have in this country.

  27. bookman11 says:

    The future version of NFL football is on ESPN right now.

  28. I’ve been watching some of the NHL All-Star games. Sorry this isn’t hockey. It’s a skills competition within a game.

  29. steveccnv says:

    How is Huntley in the PB, he’s awful

  30. bookman11 says:

    Any word on the OL coach search?

    • Nope! The only thing I’ve seen is Mike Munchak as a possibility because he has a connection with Fangio. But not sure if that plays into it with a DC and OL coach. Some have said he might be headed back to Pittsburgh.

  31. bailbondmike says:

    Sorry (not really), the Biden getting doinked by mini spy balloons video was freaking hilarious!

  32. Wyoming85 says:

    I actually like the new Pro bowl format!

    Didn’t think I would

  33. bailbondmike says:

    Three “winners” from the Senior Bowl have been in my mock drafts recently.

    Winner: OT Darnell Wright (Tennessee). One of the top-rated offensive tackles in Mobile this week continued his production on the game field. The physical right tackle was solid in the run game and was bullying the opposition in pass pro.

    Winner: TE Payne Durham (Purdue). The Purdue tight end showed his appeal in the red zone on Saturday as he went up to snag a pass at the one-yard line – setting up the first touchdown of the day.

    Cincinnati LB Ivan Pace, who was voted National team’s LB Practice Player-of-Week, stood out several times throughout the game. Pace was known during his college career for his ability to blow up plays at the line of scrimmage and his physicality was noticeable in Mobile.

  34. bookman11 says:

    I like that the Pro Bowl format is more of a skills competition and accumulative competition than the fake farce that was the old game.

  35. bailbondmike says:

    ILB Ivan Pace is starting to grow on me. He’s 6’0 and 239, which is almost the exact same size as Elandon Roberts. He’s a downhill thumper. He transferred from Miami(OH) to Cincinnati for the 2022 season and had the best season of his career.

    He had 136 total tackles with 20.5 TFL, 9 sacks, 2 FF and 4 PD’s.

    He was considered a 3rd rounder but think he climbs draft boards to early day 2.

  36. bailbondmike says:

    I was hoping to snag TE Payne Durham in the 6th but he had a solid season and a real good week of practice and game at the Senior Bowl.

  37. bookman11 says:

    Ok, now I am seeing the worst thing about the Pro Bowl games….the entertainment. Smh

  38. Mike E. says:

    Ken – I think if it was Trump falling up the stairs it would be just as funny. Instead of Chinese spy balloons, they could have Stormy Daniels or AOC tripping him. Either way, I’d be laughing. I love silly stuff, it just so happens that both Biden and Trump provide us all with lots of content

  39. bailbondmike says:

    Keep missing on a LB by taking a RB. Ben Sims is a good blocking TE. Cory Durden played 3-4 DE at FSU then transferred to NC State and played 3-4 NT at 6’4 316. He is good at bull rushing and disrupting the pocket. Won’t get you a lot in stats unless disrupting the pocket was a stat.

    51. Darnell Wright OT Tennessee
    77. Israel Abanikanda RB Pittsburgh
    84. Garrett Williams CB Syracuse
    178. Ben Sims TE Baylor (TE Payne Durham went in 5th round)
    240. Cory Durden DT NC State

  40. bailbondmike says:

    OK, frustrated with our lack of picks, I had to put on Rockphins “trady pants”. After several trade downs, I came up with a good draft.

    67. Ivan Pace Jr. LB Cincinnati
    77. Warren McClendon OT Georgia (RT)
    84. Israel Abanikanda RB Pittsburgh
    108. Garrett Williams CB Syracuse
    131. Payne Durham TE Purdue
    158. DeMarcco Hellams S Alabama (good zone SS)
    178. Jaxson Kirkland OT Washington (LT/LG)
    216. Riley Moss CB Iowa
    240. Cory Durden DT NC State (NT)

    • You turned 5 into 9. I’d rather turn 5 into 3. 😉

      • bailbondmike says:

        I understand, you could possibly trade 2nd and 3rd to move up in 2nd or trade both 3’s to move up for players you really want. It could very well happen. I was just thinking with our cap situation and filling out the 90 we won’t have much money to fill up the roster. We have like 45 spots to fill.

        Clubs have to be under the cap (top 51) by 4pm March 15.

        BTW, NFL combine is only 23 days away.

  41. pheloniusphish says:

    Here you go Ken. This is why you should wait before jumping on your partisan wagon to defend the disastrous dotard you voted for.

  42. bailbondmike says:


    February 12 Super Bowl LVII (State Farm Stadium, Glendale, AZ)

    February 13 Waiver system begins for 2023. A 24-hour claiming period will be in effect through the Friday prior to the last regular season game (waiver requests made on Friday and Saturday of each week will expire at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the following Monday.) Players with at least four previous pension-credited seasons whom a club desires to terminate are not subject to the waiver system until after the trading deadline.

    February 13 Beginning the first business day after the Super Bowl through the opening of the first training camp for Rookies in 2023, clubs must report all tryouts and visits to the League office; however, such transactions will not be reported to other clubs.

    February 16 Deadline for playoff clubs to submit their individual lists of Physician-Certified 2023 Basic Injury Protection Benefit Candidates to the Management Council.

    February 21 Beginning this date through 4:00 p.m., New York time on March 7 clubs may designate Franchise or Transition Players.

    February 28 – March 6 FL Scouting Combine (Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN)

    March 7 Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players.

    March 7 College Pro Days Begin. Workouts of a school’s Pro Day-eligible players with players outside of the scheduled Pro Day activities are prohibited. Private dinners, meetings, interviews are permitted.

    March 7-April 19 Draft-Eligible Facility Visits Begin. Clubs permitted 30 non-local players for physical exams/visits; no on- field workouts.

    March 7-April 26 Video or telephone interviews with draft-eligible players begin. Three video or telephone interviews per player; no longer than one hour in length.

    March 8-9 Deadline for clubs (60 day after final regular season game) to conduct physical examinations pursuant to CBA Article 45, Section 7(a) for players claiming the Extended Injury Protection Benefit for the 2023 season.

    March 13-15 Negotiation Period. During the period beginning at 12:00 noon, New York time, on March 13 and ending at 3:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 15, clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2022 Player Contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 15.
    During the above two-day negotiating period, a prospective UFA who is not represented by an NFLPA Certified Contract Advisor is permitted to communicate directly with a new club’s front office officials (excluding the Head Coach and other members of the club’s coaching staff) regarding contract negotiations.
    No prospective Unrestricted Free Agent is permitted to execute a contract with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 15.

    March 15 End/Start of League Year. Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must exercise options for 2023 on all players who have option clauses in their 2022 contracts.
    – Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must submit Qualifying Offers to their Restricted Free Agents with expiring contracts to retain a Right of First Refusal/Compensation.
    – Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must submit a Minimum Salary Tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2022 contracts who have fewer than three Accrued Seasons of free agency credit.
    – Top 51 Rule is in effect. All clubs must be under the 2023 Salary Cap prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time. All 2022 NFL player contracts will expire at 4:00 p.m., New York time.
    – The 2023 League Year and Free Agency period begin at 4:00 p.m., New York time.
    The first day of the 2023 League Year will end at 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 15. Clubs will receive a Personnel Notice that will include all transactions submitted to the League office during the period between 4:00 p.m., New York time, and 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 15.

    March 15 Trading period for 2023. Trading begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2022 contracts.

    March 15 Commencing at 4:00 p.m., New York time, Clubs may designate up to two Player Contracts that, if terminated on or prior to June 1, 2023, and if not renegotiated after January 9, 2023, shall be treated as if terminated on June 2, subject to the further requirements of CBA Article 13, Section 6(b)(ii)(1).

    March 23 Deadline for all Clubs to submit their individual lists of Physician-Certified Candidates for the 2023 Extended Injury Protection Benefit.

    March 26-29 Annual League Meeting (The Biltmore, Phoenix, AZ)

    March 30 Deadline for clubs to meet 2023 funding requirements for guaranteed or deferred compensation in NFL Player Contracts and contracts for non-player Club employees.

    April 3 Clubs that hired a new Head Coach after the end of the 2022 regular season may begin offseason workout programs.

    April 17 Clubs with returning Head Coaches may begin offseason workout programs.
    April 19 Deadline for clubs to time, test, visit, interview, or conduct a physical examination with a draft-eligible player at its club facility.

    April 21 Deadline for Restricted Free Agents to sign Offer Sheets.

    April 26 Deadline for Prior Club to exercise Right of First Refusal to Restricted Free Agents.

    April 27 Deadline for clubs to time, test, visit, interview (including video and phone calls), or conduct a physical examination with a draft-eligible player at any location.

    April 27-29 Annual Selection Meeting/NFL Draft (Kansas City, MO)

    May 1 Deadline for Prior Club to send “May 1 Tender” to its unsigned Unrestricted Free Agents. If the player has not signed a Player Contract with a Club by July 22 or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later, he may negotiate or sign a Player Contract from that date until the Tuesday following the 10th weekend of the regular season, at 4:00 p.m., New York time, only with his Prior Club.

    May 1 Deadline for Clubs to exercise Fifth-Year Option for players selected in the first round of the 2020 Draft.

    May 12-15 Clubs may elect to hold their one three-day post-Draft rookie minicamp from Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday on one of the two weekends following the Draft.

    May 15 Rookie Football Development Programs begin.

    May 18-21
    (Tentative) NFLPA Rookie Premiere, TBD

    May 22-24 Spring League Meeting, TBD

  43. bailbondmike says:

    March 15 Commencing at 4:00 p.m., New York time, Clubs may designate up to two Player Contracts that, if terminated on or prior to June 1, 2023, and if not renegotiated after January 9, 2023, shall be treated as if terminated on June 2, subject to the further requirements of CBA Article 13, Section 6(b)(ii)(1).
    I expect to see something with Byron Jones name on it this date.

  44. steveccnv says:

    It’s been said, that communists use family members to do their bribery dirty work, follow the money to see how this is true with the biden crime family

    Joe has a networth of 17.3m, Hunter 330m without either really doing anything legit in business

  45. steveccnv says:

    Playing flag football at the PB isn’t a new idea, if you’ll remember they used to play it on the beach in Hawaii, until former cheats RB Robert Edwards got hurt derailing what seemed to be the start of a great career

    He recovered, but was never as good, and we picked him up for a year or so where he played ok

    He rushed for 1,115 yards for the Patriots in the 1998 National Football League season, before blowing out his knee at an NFL rookie flag football game in Hawaii during Pro Bowl week. Edwards barely escaped the injury without having his leg amputated below the knee, and he was told he might not walk again.

  46. steveccnv says:

    Asian Americans, that use a wok to cook aren’t happy about the proposed ban on gas stoves

    How much more can we allow them to take from us?

  47. It’s looking like Brian Flores could become the new HC for the Cardinals. He’s having his 2nd interview.

  48. steveccnv says:

    Here’s some news on proposed bills to stop Congress’ insider trading

    Lol at the one proposed by pelosi with the built in loophole

  49. Maybe I’ve been out of the loop on this but I have heard about it, just didn’t look into it. Why are they banning gas stoves?

    • steveccnv says:

      More fake climate change controlling BS

    • steveccnv says:

      Something else to help line their pockets

      Omar makes just over 300k, but her networth is 83m, how is that even possible on the level?

      • steveccnv says:

        And I thought Maxine Waters was corrupt, guess she just isn’t smart enough

      • Maxine Waters also called for her supporters to harass Republican officials because of the “border crisis”, wherever they are, even when they’re going about their daily lives. She’s an angry old witch. But she’s a woman and black so you know, gotta walk on egg shells.

  50. If everything goes electric that will create an overload of electric power. Hope they have a plan for that.

    Are they going to force everyone to replace their gas furnaces too?

    • steveccnv says:

      In time they’ll do that too

      The plan is to tear everything down and rebuild the govt, have as many people as possible on welfare (free votes), some form of socialism

      Buttigeg has been ask about the power grid, he’s got no answers

      In CA they want all electric cars, but their power grid can’t handle it now, they ask people not to charge their cars during certain hours

    • With Roberts and Riley being UFAs, I wonder if Tindall is being viewed to replace at least one of them. It kind of sounds like that was the plan. Let him get a taste and go through everything rookies need to go through. Tindall has the physical ability but now his mind has to catch up to the NFL game.

      Wonder if it’s the same for Cameron Goode. He played a lot of Edge in college but I saw him in the PS playing multiple roles at LB and he looked pretty good.

      It would be great if both of these guys took that next step.

  51. Ken says:

    Brady won’t start broadcasting until 2024 🤔

  52. The Flying Pig says:

    This place is tuning into a fucking psyche ward

  53. Van Ginkel is also a UDFA and not sure what our view of him is. He’ll get offers from other teams for sure. He’s not a top level player but he’s a sneaky good player who does make some impact plays. He also plays STs.

    The way I see it is we’d love to have Goode replace the Ingram/Van Ginkel role and Tindall to replace the Riley role.

    M13, I agree with you, I would like to re-sign Roberts who’s coming off of his best season – to be that stout physical ILB. He’s been a team leader and he can play a lot of roles. He’s played fullback and STs in his career. You need players like that on your team.

    We’ll likely target other LBs to compete for depth as well. Fangio will definitely play a role in bringing in coaches and personnel on defense. We’ve got premium talent up front, Baker and some options at LB, and some core and questionable situations in the secondary. But we do have some very good players and potential throughout. I don’t think Fangio takes this job if it’s a mess.

    Think about this too, Fangio was a HC in Denver for 3 seasons. He wasn’t just defense. He had to be a part of building the entire team. So he was involved in scouting FA and the draft at all positions. He knows players across the league that he already scouted and coached. He brings a wealth of knowledge to our team outside of just being a top defensive mind.

  54. The Flying Pig says:

    Does anyone understand this chart?

  55. Brian Flores will be the Vikings new DC.

  56. mf13ss says:

    Thy Knight (@ThyKnight3) says:
    February 6, 2023 at 5:34 pm

    …M13, I agree with you, I would like to re-sign Roberts who’s coming off of his best season – to be that stout physical ILB. He’s been a team leader and he can play a lot of roles. He’s played fullback and STs in his career. You need players like that on your team…
    Absolutely, man. And that cat hits HARD at the POC (Point of Contact). We’ve all seen him absolutely level ball carriers in the backfield, close to the tune of Ray Lewis.

    Bring Roberts back!

  57. mf13ss says:

    Alright, my PSA for re-signing Elandon Roberts is over… and I didn’t even include his 79-yard pick-6 of Derek Carr. 🙂

  58. ukfinfan says:

    Kong – I think you said you has all bases covered with your current package for watching NFL games, but just for info – this.

    There is a folder in Live TV for DAZN so it should be another route into watching live games next season.

    Also, don’t know if you prefer to watch SB through US TV (I know SB ads are actually enjoyed by some ………. I hate ads with a burning passion) but Sky will have the SB live (there will still be a bunch of ads but less than you get) and one of the presenters this year will be Fitzmagic, which should be entertaining!

  59. ukfinfan says:

    mf13ss says:
    February 4, 2023 at 6:07 pm
    Yup, Fangio is another level, yet a chef is only as good as his/her ingredients. I’m truly curious to see who we retain/re-sign vs who we may trade/cut.


    Two sides to this analogy for me M. A top chef would only ever use the finest ingredients and usually go by the adage the better the ingredients, the less they have to do to them to make a great plate of food. That, of course, equates to having no salary (cost) cap, as the cost is recovered in the price of the food they prepare.

    The flip side of this is a top chef creating something memorable from less good ingredients. The use of herbs, spices and sauces can cover a multitude of sins and elevate a dish. Think Belichick and some of the Ds he’s overseen and how he takes away what you do best. Think no name defence. Think most of the best peasant dishes on the planet – all using humble ingredients but necessity being the mother of invention, representing some of the tastiest dishes ever created.

    Me? I hope Fangio can get the most out of the best we have, but also cover up what deficiencies we have and play to the strengths of the 11 we have on the field (in a way which Boyer failed to do too often). Then Fangio gets his 3 Michelin stars!

    • steveccnv says:

      I think Chubb is the key, he has to use him correctly, to move away from a D, that was DB dependent

      Along with Chubb we have Phillips, that will also play a big role, especially when Chubb is game planned against by opponent

      How do we get Ogbah, Chubb and Phillips on the field at the same time, more often, than not?

      If we do that, what happens with Wilkins, Seiler and Davis?

      Assuming Roberts is retained, how does he and Baker fit with the new scheme?

      What other LBs are we retaining?

      Do we just keep rotating fresh bodies in?

      It’s easy to see why Fangio chose Miami, he’s got lots of options

      • ukfinfan says:

        You’re not alone in that thought Steve and I agree. This from a while back. It could be an interesting D we put on the field next year! And numbers to back it up …………

  60. Wyoming85 says:

    That’s pretty funny!

  61. Rockphin says:

  62. Rockphin says:


  63. Rockphin says:

    Well, he’s got a whole new playbook with a whole new language coming so hopefully he doesn’t struggle with this one too…..

    • steveccnv says:

      That belicheat D we ran was very complex, don’t think the new will be quite as hard to learn

      Either way, put Tindall in and let him learn on the fly

    • Rockphin says:

      I’m not going to read it, but I would tell the jackass that the money is not your inheritance it is THEIR money. Your parents can do with it what ever they want and while I don’t know you, I hope they give it all away to charity!

    • Isn’t he saying his brother and sister are depleting his parents money and he’s not doing any of that but down the road he’d get some type of inheritance which is a typical thing that happens? Parents often leave what they have to their kids.

      • steveccnv says:

        Because his siblings are getting money now, he wants his parents to keep score, so whatever they get now it’s deducted from their inheritance

      • I get his viewpoint because I’ve seen siblings that take advantage and others that don’t. They’re not looking for anything if their parents want to spend it on themselves in their last years, but the greedy siblings keep pecking away. So after taking whatever amount over a period of time, they want to split the house and anything else left as well.

        This kind of stuff gets ugly.

  64. Steve, we could definitely get Ogbah, Phillips and Chubb on the field at the same time.
    Phillips and Chubb as OLBs with Ogbah, Wilkins, Sieler and/or Davis on the DL.

  65. Rockphin says:

    That’s our Coach!

  66. Really bad earthquake in Syria and Turkey.

  67. Brian in NY says:

    Baker is a solid LB, but he’s not a difference maker. Maybe his role would change a bit in Fangio’s D and he would make more of an impact.

    • He’s got pretty damn good numbers. He’s made a lot of impact plays in his career. He’s not dominant, but he’s not Channing Crowder either. LOL

      I think he’s just below pro bowl or all-pro. He’s like a player in baseball who hits .275 15HR and 75 RBI. Very productive bat in the lineup but not the best in your lineup.

  68. Brian in NY says:


    Tindall didn’t see a lot of time on the field in college either, although one could argue that Georgia’s D was stacked. But one of the knocks on him was he didn’t play because he didn’t know the playbook that well. Sound familiar?

  69. None of us get it!

  70. Look at it this way. If you release Baker because of the cap, and Roberts, Van Ginkel Riley and Eguavoen are UFAs, that leaves us with Tindall and Goode. That’s not good.

    • Brian in NY says:

      I would re sign Roberts to a one year deal

      • He’ll be 29 in April and he’s playing his best ball. He’s a team leader – he fires guys up with words and big hits. I’d sign him to a 3 year deal with an out in the 3rd (see where he’s at kind of thing). He’s in his prime. Athletes these days are good well into their 30’s. But Roberts plays really physical so not sure how long that lasts. I’d go with the current guy for sure.

  71. We’re likely to see a lot of restructuring of contracts this offseason. It has to happen right? This team does feel the time is now to go for it, so push contracts down the line a couple of years. Most teams have 2-4 year windows these days. Some teams have maintained a solid foundation for many years where they’re always in it. We’re still in now mode. Fangio didn’t take the DC job for a rebuild.

    • Rockphin says:

      See I am completely against this mindset. There should not be a window. Your team should be set up well so that the cap doesn’t hurt you next year or the next or the following. Quality franchises like the Pats the ravens the Steelers KC all do a good job year after year. They don’t blow their load for a window

  72. Brian in NY says:


    Yeah, maybe I should have said Baker is a very solid LB. Those baseball numbers you mentioned would get you about $20 million a year in todays game …

    • What I like about Baker is he’s a smart guy who can play any role you ask a LB to do. He plays inside most of the time but he can play outside here and there; blitz, cover, play the run and he’s a fast sideline to sideline guy. He’s a guy who can trail a play he wasn’t part of and keep it from going to the house because of his speed. Give the defense another chance.

  73. Brian, Mawae and Ulracher are two of the best endorsements for Zach. Mawae was Zach’s nemesis and vice versa. Mawae said Parcells told him if you don’t block #54 we won’t win the game. The respect great competitors have for each other. They all know the battle.

  74. bailbondmike says:

    Thy Knight (@ThyKnight3) says:
    February 7, 2023 at 4:03 pm
    I get his viewpoint because I’ve seen siblings that take advantage and others that don’t. They’re not looking for anything if their parents want to spend it on themselves in their last years, but the greedy siblings keep pecking away. So after taking whatever amount over a period of time, they want to split the house and anything else left as well.
    My wife knows exactly how this guy feels. When she was 20, she asked her dad for $20 so she could buy gas until she got paid again. He said he didn’t have it to spare. She never asked him for any thing again.

    Fast forward 25 years later when her brother started college and over the next 8 years after college. Her dad gave her brother over $375,000 over that 12 year period which also does not include a paid for $80,000 Toyota Tundra. Her dad kept ledgers of almost everything he spent on him. It was probably closer to half a million dollars over 12 years.

    My wife never complained to her father about it other than to tell him he was enabling and killing him slowly because he was a bad drug addict.

    Her dad lived with us the last 6 years of his life. He would buy some groceries and household items but never offered to help with bills or anything and we didn’t ask either. He was just fixated on helping my wife’s brother.

    Just before he passed, he told my wife’s brother he was not getting anything when he dies and he was going to leave everything to my wife which was about 15K when all said and done.

    Her brother then had the nerve to accuse my wife of manipulating their dad. He was homeless in Houston, TX at the time and told her that she needs to help him out with that money.

    She didn’t.

    He is now in his third stint of state funded rehab in Texas.

  75. Rockphin says:

    I’ve been paying my parents mortgage for the last three years because they can’t afford it anymore. I’ve got six brothers and sisters. Only one of my older sisters has helped them besides me. I know that some of the money I sent to them is being sent to my other brothers and sisters. Damn they paid for my nieces braces while I was paying their mortgage!!!! Whenever they’re short they come to me.

    I already know when they die the other six are going to tear apart the carcass like lions on a kill and expect “their share.” Of the house I have kept from being foreclosed on.

    I am not even going to try. Let um have it. My folks will probably leave everything in their will to my youngest sister who has never gotten her shit together. I look up on them with disgust sometimes. Don’t want to load myself to that level.

    My point in the post above was that the entitled prick isn’t entitled to his parents life savings. That he thinks he does makes him an entitled prick.

  76. Rockphin says:

    Have any of you guys played Madden this year? I have generally avoided buying it for the last decade or so because it just was never fun playing the Dolphins.
    Chad Henny and Tannehill weren’t really respected in madden and played worse than they actually were. Made it no fun.

    Actually the last time I remember having fun playing was with Ricky and Ronny because I can get 5-6 yards every play running off tackle and nobody can stop it LOL.

    Just wondering how it is this year with Tua leading the league in major statistical categories. Does anyone know

  77. Wyoming85 says:

    Before dad got sick and passed I told him to sell everything and spend it all on whatever the wanted.
    My Mom got so mad she wouldn’t hardly talk to me for months.
    She thought I was being an ass! (which is usually true)
    but My sister and I both have good jobs, and neither one of us will move back to their house, or need any of the money!
    Just seemed a waste.

  78. Krishna says:

    Lol…I actually believe my youngest brother is evil.

    Not only is he sucking on the retirement savings of my father who is recently widowed after 60+ years, he was able to take advantage of their cognitive degenerative states and get them to redo their will within the last 3 years.

    The fucking shit was written out of their wills until the last amended one in 2019. All the rest of us have been written out of the last one. He has durable POA and pretty can do whatever he wants, and does with dad’s money. I want or need nothing…lol.

    The point is that, sometimes actions are nefarious, and in my case, I believe evil. You can fault my parents, too, but….this is a big but…lol.

  79. Krishna says:

    SF hired its DC….

  80. mf13ss says:

    steveccnv says:
    February 7, 2023 at 1:16 pm
    Baker, like Gesicki
    I’ve all but forecasted this happening over the last two weeks. Why? Now is the time to do it with a new and great DC in Fangio. Now then, I’m not advocating for this to happen, and perhaps Fangio really likes Baker with what he could bring to the Fangio Defense. I should think we would try to trade Baker first before outright cutting him though.

    I read a really good article earlier at work, citing 1 move every NFL needs to make as we come into the ’23 season/offseason… think I can find it now? LOL, I can’t… SMH. Anyway, our 1 move is to cut ties with Byron Jones (post-June 1), thus saving us all that money (cap space). The Bills’ 1 move is to let Tremaine Edmunds walk… in order to re-sign/extend more important players such as Stephon Diggs, Jordan Poyer, and Matt Milano.

    So… if it all plays out, we re-sign Elandon Roberts (3 years, 3rd year out), perhaps trade or cut Baker, and sign Tremaine Edmonds to replace Baker.

    I wouldn’t be mad about this… in fact, I almost like it a lot. This is what I’ve been implying over the last couple of weeks, but it all depends on what Fangio thinks.

    With certainty, I can tell y’all this: Fangio likes LBs who can fall back into coverage with success, in order to hide his Defensive schemes.

    • Tremaine Edmunds is going to cost a lot more than Baker and is he really more productive at double the price? I don’t see how this works for us.

      • mf13ss says:

        Why would Edmunds cost “double” what we pay Baker… especially if their stats are as close as they are? I get that new contracts are more expensive and that the market for positions get reset every year, but we may be able to palate Edmunds’ salary demands.

        Like I said, it’s all about Fangio and who/what he sees as a system fit for his Defense. There just might be nothing to see here, too. We’re all merely speculating at this point. 😉

  81. Wyoming85 says:

    I want Edmunds and Baker!
    But then I’m a selfish prick that way!!!!!!

  82. I don’t see us moving on from Baker who is a versatile and durable LB – one missed game in 5 seasons.

  83. We also have to add some competition on the OL, the RB and TE position is questionable, and the secondary is coming off of being banged up. Why mess around too much at LB?

    We can’t upgrade every position. Sometimes just hold the fort and don’t get worse in some areas.

  84. Oh right we’re watching the state of the union. LOL

  85. Wyoming85 says:

    Kevin should have ripped it!!!

  86. son of a son of a shula says:

    Jill has the strangest clap I think I’ve ever seen

  87. Sarah Huckabee Sanders who just won Governor of Arkansas is going to run for president at some point. She knows how to debate and deal with adversaries being a former White House Press Secretary and politician. Not saying I agree with her on everything I just see it coming.

  88. son of a son of a shula says:

    You guys are funny, now Baker is no good.
    We got good WITH Baker.

  89. mf13ss says:

    Seriously, I can’t imagine that we’d ask 4 or 5 players to restructure their contracts this year (2023), only to kick the can to 2024… there would be HELL to pay in ’24 as it relates to our salary cap. to

    That would officially close our “window”, as they say. Why? We’ll have to pay (via new contracts) Tua, Waddle, and Holland (should they continue their success… forget about a 5th-year option), while being something like $60M over the cap. On top of that, we’re going to want to re-sign Christian Wilkins.

    BOLD PREDICTION: on top of cutting Byron Jones, we’re going to need to move either X or Baker.

    • Do you want to compete the next season 2023 or continue to build for 2-3 more years while top players we have now are no longer top players?

      The Miami Dolphins have a window and it’s 2023-2024. Vic Fangio wouldn’t have signed on as DC if he thought it was a lost cause.

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