When I was a young tadpole I knew nothing about Earth. We didn’t really care much for this side of the Universe. Until one day when I received a strange transmission. It was a commercial for the NFL’s Greatest hits on BETA! after I was finished laughing about the format of the video I began to watch the hitting. These guys were killing each other – it was amazing. I fell in love with Earth at that moment. Where else can you drive your shoulder into another lifeform until he hits the ground to demonstrate great technique?
You can imagine how disappointed I was when I came to this planet and learned that the game had changed to a Tom Brady-Friendly game, where defensive players were penalized if they did anything else but target another players knees on a hit. So when I was assigned to research how to destroy the Earth – I was overcome with joy! If there is no more violence in football, I’m going to make some violence of my own. But you know what, lately I’m having a crisis of conscious. You know why? Because Denzel Perryman will knock your head off that’s why! Now shut your bitchy human mouth and accept your pain! This guy can hit!!!
Perryman is a 6’0, 235 lbs Linebacker out of Miami, the real Miami not the one in Ohio. Undersized? I don’t think so, he has a great stout frame and he uses it to hammer away at ball carriers. Its something else to watch a guy with that U on his helmet wearing the number 52 and thumping people. Reminds me of Ray Lewis. Perryman has a long way to live up to Lewis’ career but if he stays healthy and physical he can be a pro bowl caliber Middle Linebacker.
So is it all just thumping ball carriers? In this day and age NFL scouts want their Inside Linebackers to cover. Perryman can do that too. He is a versatile Linebacker, not a 2 down guy. He should be able to run with most backs and tight ends in the NFL.
In four years in Miami, Perryman had 2 Interceptions and 4.5 sacks. But the real impressive stats are his 7 forces fumbles and 343 tackles. That’s a middle linebacker!!!
Perryman is expected to be drafted anywhere between the late first round to the late 2nd round. It will be interesting to see if his combine numbers cause him to fall. He is not exactly a great athlete with jaw dropping combine numbers.
But it’s not Perryman’s athleticism that is going to save the Earth. Its his hitting. If Perryman was an Alien Weapon of Destruction he would be the Great Hammer of the Alien Diety Haumea.
Watch Perryman hammer some guys in this clip!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Piggy, I guarantee you if Philbin benched Wallace during the season and/or made him inactive a bunch of people would say he can’t handle a big ego and he’s an idiot for doing it.
Philbin was trying to win, what do you think he should have done with Wallace?
I bet they would too
So what
Philbin should take do what’s best for the team
And if he didn’t, he is failing
What do I think he should have done?
If I assume you are correct that this was an ongoing issue that boiled over time
I think he should have nipped it in the bud early and benched Wallace in favor of hartline ( doesn’t matter how long, a game, a qtr, 2 games, indefinitely)
If you have a problem with a players professionalism
Confront it when you identify it
But I don’t think what people are saying about this being a problem that boiled over is correct
if it is correct, not addressing problems until they boil over is bad management/coaching
I really just think this is about $
Not a locker room cancer
I feel like I am stuck in Groundhog Day of it’s another lockerroom cancer issue
Trying to win is what’s best for the team. That’s all that matters in sports, you know that.
It’s just a really toxic relationship coming to an end. Let it go.
D brought it up again. LOL
Piggy, why can’t some of you see Wallace is the problem and nobody else? It’s his actions, he’s not a puppet with a master controlling him. Well maybe Gibson is his master.
Why do I have to pick one problem
Wallace May be a problem
There can be another problem too
I never said Wallace was a good guy to have on your team
I never wanted to sign him to begin with
I hate his contract
I just think we are stuck with that contract
We’re stuck to remnants of the contract, but not the player. If the 2 parties feel it can’t work….it’s done.
Because it’s about Wallace’s action and nothing else. It’s not Philbin’s fault he has the contract he has and that he’s a douche.
Gibson is his yapping lapdog.
Anyone think Iranian speed boats would get anywhere near our aircraft carriers? LOL
http://news.yahoo.com/irans-guard-begins-military-exercises-near-key-strait-065746514.html
That French aircraft carrier mentioned is a bad ass carrier also. It is capable of launching and receiving american fighter planes.
Jahn
Sorry for filling in the blanks myself, but it’s obvious that you won’t place blame on Philbin. It was far from just the defense the last few games, the offense didn’t get it done either.
The entire team was responsible.
I saw the problem as the defense. Sorry that’s what I saw. You think I’m incapable of seeing flaws in Philbin, but I’m not. Conversely I think you are incapable of admitting that he’s doing something right (like with the QB we’ve waited 2 decades for), but maybe I’m wrong about that. It’s bullshit that someone changes a topic 180 degrees from Wallace to the Defense, and you switch it up to Philbin on me.
I blame Jimmy Wilson for everything😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Including world hunger and AIDS
I blame Jahn for going full retard today. LOL
If only someone had told me:
LOL, the first time I saw Tropic Thunder channel surfing, I didn’t know Robert Downey Jr. was in it or that was him.
My favorite character was Les Grossman played by Tom Cruise though. LOL
“The difference between midsession and now is not financial Jahn
That is wishful thinking on your part”
No, it’s recognizing a fact on my part. You’re now offering an alternative solution, benching him instead of cutting him. Your question, which I answered directly was why didn’t they cut him before. Finances.
“Either they backed off discipline him, they didn’t recognize it, or they are exaggerating it now”
Or, about a thousand other possibilities. There’s no denying it. Week 17 was a Stevenson moment for Wallace’s reputation. Teammates made it public record that they felt he’d abandoned them when they needed him most. The rest is discussion fodder and backstory, but for now, it’s clear, this is a good opportunity to part ways without putting the team in a financial bind. If he’d pulled that stunt in week 1 I bet my mortgage they would have benched him. The other stuff is just evidence of “what’s not to like” about him. The defining offense was week 17, the time is now to address it.
Did someone mention a powerback? I don’t know if anyone noticed, but there is someone out there, who is available and knows our team, name rhymes with Veggie Mush. If we would have had him on the roster last season, we would have been in the playoffs.
Just to be clear
I don’t think Wallace is worth what we are paying him
I think it was a horrible contract from the get go
I think the team wants out of that contract and I think they should want out
I want to upgrade our WRs
But I don’t feel the urge to do the annual – he is the bad guy on the team thing
I really think this is a lot more about $ than you guys are giving it credit for
At this point Wallace is what Wallace is
And I don’t think it’s any different than it ever was
I really think the team is trying to make something out of a bad situation
And they should
But I have a problem with pointing a finger at some one every year – saying they are the problem and at the end of the day giving talent up and saying the team is better
It’s not better
We use addition by subtraction mucus too often around the dolphins
Wallace can easily move down the depth chart in favor of a guy who is a harder work and better all around WR
Just cutting a guy and eating most of his salary is just bad management IMO
They need to get something for him
And if they don’t just accept that he is what he is and there’s better out there
Seattle overpaid Matt Flynn to basically do nothing for them
It didn’t really hurt them
Just go out and get a WR
But don’t out yourself in a situation where you have to be desperate for one
That is basically why we overpaid him to begin with – which is the real problem
Everyone has to earn there spots
Wallace, the next guy and so on
Who are the other annual bad guys?
Seriously?
jahndoh says:
February 26, 2015 at 3:29 pm (Edit)
I saw the problem as the defense. Sorry that’s what I saw. You think I’m incapable of seeing flaws in Philbin, but I’m not
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I don’t think you’re incapable of seeing Philbin’s flaws, I just think you’re incapabable of admitting to them in a discussion. 2 different things. I KNOW you see them, but whether you’re willing to admit to them is another issue. This year will tell everything. If we keep treading water, this will be Philbin’s last season. If we make it into the playoffs, he’ll have earned the right to come back.
whatever. send me the shrink bill I guess since you’ve got me all figured out.
It’s $12.1M, but if you fire me, you only have to pay $2.5M. 🙂
LOL…even the joke underlines lack of cap understanding.
olddolphan says:
February 26, 2015 at 8:27 am
NICELY DONE, Mr. Piggy!! – – Noticed that Perryman’s #1 hit took place AFTER the runner had already gained about 10 yards and a first down. – – THAT will fit in perfectly with the Dolphins current defensive strategies! — Which gets me back to ANOTHER ISSUE. – – No matter how many solid players the Dolphins sign, those players WILL STILL BE STUCK WITH A COACHING STAFF THAT PRODUCES 7-9 OR 8-8 SEASONS!!! – – Some on this blog are OK with mediocrity. “Give the coaches more time, better players, and everything will be OK,” says the apologists. –Well we tried that with George Wilson AND IT DIDN’T WORK!! —We gave Sparano extra years and it got us an 0-7 start and an eventual firing 2 years too late in my view. –The Ireland apologists GOT their extra couple of years and WE GOT TWO MORE YEARS OF MOSTLY BAD PERSONNEL DECISIONS!! – – This “wait and see” approach sounds fine in principle. But in THE REAL WORLD OF DOLPHINS FOOTBALL, “WAIT AND SEE” has simply meant more shitty seasons!! –Even the greatest head coach in NFL history, Don Shula, fell prey to “another season” when he clearly stood by Tom Olivadotti way too long during some of Marino’s greatest seasons.
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My belief is that Great Coaches bring instant improvement. Vince Lombardi instantly turned around a moribund Green Bay franchise. Chuck Noll ended Pittsburgh’s 39 years of no playoffs and took Pittsburgh to 4 Super Bowl victories. Al Davis resuscitated a dead Raider franchise and turned them into an NFL powerhouse. Bud Grant did the same at Minnesota. NOW, however, if you are to believe Philbin’s defenders, 4 years are NOT enough. Is that REALLY SO??
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In Don Shula’s FIRST YEAR, Miami improved from 3 wins in ’69 to 10-4 in 1970 and a narrow playoff loss to Oakland. Shula’s 2nd, 3rd and 4th seasons all brought trips to the Super Bowl. –NO, I’m NOT holding Philbin up to the standards of Don Shula. But, apparently, asking for ONE winning season in 4 years is asking for too much according to some in this crowd.–Last year at this time EVERYONE, including Steve Ross, was in the “improve or you’re fired” camp. –Well, NO IMPROVEMENT got Philbin another year, so we know what Ross’s football word is worth, don’t we??
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As much as I HATE to admit it, all this talk about new players likely is a waste of time, based on Dolphins history. We are in for another season that fails to deliver a SINGLE PLAYOFF VICTORY —-our 15th consecutive season without a playoff win. While some say, “If you fire the staff, we’re in for 3-4 rebuilding seasons that will be even worse than what we’ve got now.” –To that, I say BULLSHIT!! –It’s all about GETTING THE RIGHT GUY!! –IF we’ve hired “The Right Guy,” you’ll see measureable improvement in ONE YEAR and MORE IMPROVEMENT THE SECOND YEAR —something that’s been sadly lacking during the Philbin years. I’m a “SHOW ME” kind of guy. -And all Philbin and Ross have shown me so far is mediocrity. Too bad some are just fine with that.
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I didn’t even realize OD said “Some on this blog are OK with mediocrity”. That fucking line is sold fucking old, annoying and untrue, but I’m not even gonna get into it because it’s pointless.
C’mon, you know you live for 8-8 😉
I was gonna leave it alone, but that’s just another cap filled rant. I respect the hell out of OD, but the comment about “philbin’s defenders would…have us believe…4 years is not enough” is mean to impugn and it’s not accurate. The comment how great coaches turn things around immediately conveniently forgets the beginning of Belichick’s career and the 1-15 SF 49ers..who were my home team at the time and had all kinds of old cranky dudes calling for his head.
wow, just wow. jahn and mike e.
mike e, i think you are taking on a bit much. i mean you are talented and all but trying to hack god’s computer i think you are taking on more then you can handle.
Chiefs released TE Anthony Fasano.
The move clears $1.959 million in cap space. More importantly for fantasy purposes, it frees up last year’s TE8, Travis Kelce, to go absolutely bonkers in 2015. Going on 31, Fasano was constantly banged up in 2014, and it was reflected by his play. He caught just 25 passes for 226 yards over 15 games, and his run blocking fell off a cliff. A nine-year veteran who’s had a well-rounded game, Fasano will undoubtedly latch on elsewhere, but there’s no guarantee he’ll crack someone’s 53-man roster.
Rams released DT Kendall Langford.
The move clears $6 million in cap space. Signed to a four-year, $24 million deal in March 2012, Langford was a 16-game starter in 2012 and 2013, but was benched in favor of Aaron Donald last season. He played just 494 snaps, managing one sack. Still only 29, Langford has experience at defensive end. That versatility and relative youth could earn him some guaranteed money on the open market.
Watch them sign Odrick
Langford is 6’6 313…I’d bring him in for a workout and see if he could be had on the cheap, say a 1 yr prove it type deal. Will depend if we lose out on other top DT’s in FA.
FFR
I tried, but I was triangulated.
I hope we continue to wallow in mediocrity just so I can read people here bitch and moan about about it until we all die. That’s way more fun than making the playoffs and winning a championship. Who’s with me?
Joe Philbin is. lol
He doesn’t count, I prefer 7-9 and he got us to 8-8 twice so we need a good ole 7-9 to get the full effect.
LOL – Makes sense
Browns fans are with ya! 🙂
Here here! I love mediocrity and excuses! Plenty of folks here have the magic formula of course. It’s so easy. Just hire the modern day Don Shula, build the ’72 fins run game, the Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor defense, and hire Marino back at QB.
But I say fuck that. I love caps filled rants and angry exchanges. SOOOOO fun!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tim
you will have your hope on oct 7th
At least we get to host the Jets in London 3 days before.
“I didn’t even realize OD said “Some on this blog are OK with mediocrity”. That fucking line is sold fucking old, annoying and untrue, but I’m not even gonna get into it because it’s pointless.”
Thats where my post earlier came from. Oh..and the “excuses” thing.
I always hate the okay with mediocrity line too
I think some people just have different opinions in what it takes to win
And to that end, on this Wallace, I come full circle
I,don’t think you get better by getting rid of talent
I think that’s too simplistic. By that logic the Raiders should have never gotten rid of Jamarcus Russel and the Skins should have never cut ties with Albert Haynesworth.
But I think we all know it’s not quite that simple.
Russell is uniquely bust worthy
It doesn’t matter what the raiders did
They were fucked
Haynesworth is kind of closer to that legal
But Wallace produced on the field
Not as much as I like but he is not in that class
The Seahawks got rid of Percy Harvin who was key in their SB victory the year before.
tim
that figures. just wait, the fins will get the snot beat out of them then we all have to die with that wonderful memory of the last football game we ever saw.
LMAO!!!!
Titans LT Michael Roos announced his retirement from the NFL.
The 41st pick in the 2005 draft, Roos played in the league ten seasons, starting 148 games and earning a Pro Bowl nod in 2008. He never received many accolades, but Roos was a steady, reliable, above-average blindside protector. Instead of heading to the open market as a free agent, Roos is retiring as a member of the only team he’s ever known. It was doubtful the Titans would have re-signed Roos had he kept playing. 2014 first-round pick Taylor Lewan is now locked in at left tackle. Right tackle remains a need.
Piggy, yes, who are the other annual bad guys?
Brandon marshal is the first
He didn’t make us better and I was all for it so no biggie for me.
It’s not some witchhunt. The dude quite literally pulled himself from a game and had teammates tell reporters that they felt he “abandoned them when he was most needed”.
Marshall was a bad teammate IMHO. Sometimes you get guys like that on your team. Good coaches get rid of them when the opportunity exists. Randy Moss fetched trade bait, but no chance Belichick wouldn’t have cut him. He DID cut Chad Johnson. Does Laveon Bell do what he did this year if the team doesn’t make it clear to him that he shouldn’t be cozying up to the likes of Lagarret Blount? Maybe the Chargers should have never cut Ryan Leaf.
“I love mediocrity.”
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Mike E. says:
February 26, 2015 at 4:30 pm
FFR
I tried, but I was triangulated.
well i guess that is better then being trianalated
jahndoh says:
February 26, 2015 at 4:46 pm
“I didn’t even realize OD said “Some on this blog are OK with mediocrity”. That fucking line is sold fucking old, annoying and untrue, but I’m not even gonna get into it because it’s pointless.”
yes it is, i agree totally. it is just as pointless as ones telling those who bitch and complain that they are bad fans and all they want is the fins to fail so they can bitch
and not saying you are one of them, just saying it is useless. i think it is pretty obvious that every single person on here is on here cause they want the fins to win.
Duh! LOL
I love when you think I said something that I quoted someone else as saying. The quotations are a hint.
I didn’t want shabby on my team either
And he earned his way out
And the bears may want to get rid of him now for the same reasons
I’m not crying Over marshal
But out WR core was shit for a year
And then we were desperate and brought in Wallace
And overpaid (zero ably overpaid for Gibson and hartline too)
And now Wallace is public enemy number 1
Do we have to do that whole dance over again?
Ask Wallace what’s up?
Wallace doesn’t quit on his team and we’re not having this discussion. He brought this on himself. I’m a huge homer. I don’t get critical of players for the fun of it. It’s topical. The team is clearly unhappy with him, so the fans are talking about why. It’s not a witchunt. He created this.
#MiamiDolphins punter @b_fields2 is also a pro home-brewer. PLUS: his TOP FIVE beers http://shar.es/1aCEz6 @pbpost
Probably has an awesome home brew setup given his huge paychecks.
Those dogs look awesome
Tim
I think Harvin was out most of the season with the Seahawks when they won the Super bowl
Yes, but he helped them win the SB and they traded him mid-season this year because they didn’t think he was a fit. Everyone knows he’s talented.
Jahn
I get the reasons for not liking marshal and Wallace
I just don’t think cutting Wallace is a good solution
We need to get better
If they can move on from Wallace in a way that doesn’t open up a hole
Than I’m okay with it
But cutting him and only savings 2.5m on cap room seems very unlikely to do that
I would like to see us trade him for a pick rounds 2-4
If we don’t
I just keep him and bring in more talent
That’s the long and short of it
I don’t want to repeat what we did a few years ago
It seems to be taking a step back to me
We clearly are at an impasse. I think he’s a PROBLEM in the locker room. You don’t. I don’t understand how you can think that given the indisputable actions of him on week 17, and the tweets about fucking around in team meetings that came afterward, but nonetheless you obviously do.
I think he’s BAD for the team. I don’t care how talented you are, if you’re Jeff George in the locker room, eventually your troublemaking will land you on the waiver wire.
I find it interesting how you never wanted him, but now don’t want to cut him in spite of the obvious problems he’s caused, but Ken wanted him badly, and now wants him gone.
No judgement on that, I just think it’s minorly interesting how the two of you keep landing on opposites sides when it comes to Wallace.
BTW, my opinion of him in no way shape or form means I wouldn’t like to see us get compensation for him, but when he doesn’t draw any, I won’t be surprised, and if the coaches and the QB think he hurts more then helps, good riddance.
In fact, if Cleveland was the only offer at a 7th rounder, I’d take a lot of pleasure in seeing that deal get done. LOL…
LMAO
Hey Pig,
Just do it right this time. Draft the guys who fit and can grow within the scheme. I think you can grab 2WRs in this draft and the offense as a whole can be better. In 2012 the teams main problem is Ireland waited too long to draft a WR. I don’t think they’d make the same mistake again….but we won’t know until draft day.
If we are talking draftee replacements I think Dorsett and Stephon diggs are excellent speedy guys
And diggs will block too
I think Diggs reminds me exactly of Wallace. Not the same exact speed but similar player. Now Dorsett is on whole different level than both Wallace & Diggs. Much more diverse player. Partner him up with Strong or Parker.
Hartline posted this today, so obviously they got along.
They did, most of the WRs did based on their Twitter interactions.
I may not always agree with Ken
But when I’m angry
I do!
http://www.gizmag.com/cloud-thunder-lightning-home/32874/
now this is what I want
TIM—–Here’s something for you
http://www.gizmag.com/lab-grown-vaginas/31607/
DBolt
Diggs is like Wallace
But not as fast in terms of straight line speed
And much more willing to be physical
And always keeps his head in the game
I like diggs a lot
I would love to see him and a big WR on our team
Agreed. He has stiff hips and stiff upper body like Wallace also which affects his COD ability, but he seems to be a better effort player than Wallace. I wouldn’t mind Diggs….Id actually take him over Devon Smith who the team has spent a lot of time with.
ESPN’s Nick Wagoner reports the “door is open” for free agent Kendall Langford to return to the Rams at a reduced salary, but that he’ll “seek a starting job first.”
Langford was set to make $6 million, far too steep for the Rams after rookie sensation Aaron Donald took Langford’s starting job last season. Langford has experience in both 4-3 and 3-4 schemes. He shouldn’t hurt for suitors, but a starting job isn’t a guarantee.
My plan with Wallace would
Be
To exhaust all efforts to trade him before 3/3
But take no lessthan a 4th
If there is no takers
So be it
But cut Gibson
Correct me if I’m wrong but we would save more cap room by cutting Gibson
I know we would save more by cutting hartline
But I would not cut hartline in this situation
Bc he is reliable
And in a worse case scenario if Wallace sulks and we have to roll with hartline and Landry
We aren’t that bad
I would still draft 1-2 wrs one big, one fast
If we keep Wallace, maybe you trade him before trade deadline next year
Teams are willing to give up more when the draft is farther away
I’m not saying plan a future with Wallace
I’m saying get value out of him
And 2.5 is just not enough IMO
its 3 for Gibson/Hartline 2.5 for Wallace. So there isnt much difference.
Yeah but the player is less valuable
Even at his babiest
In gibbons case I thought he was bad and dropsy last season
Do any of you think i put as much time into scouting players for this team because i love mediocrity? Do you think any of us put the time and effort into adding and contributing to the discussion of this team because we love mediocrity? Some people feel if something has a problem you destroy it and build anew, some look at it and go, not bad foundation just needs some work. Im in the latter group but within reason. I want this team fixed, i want to get us back to glory every damn bit as much as any of you burn it down types but in my opinion (every drop as good as yours) we get there faster by continuing to build off what we got. I could as easily accuse you guys of loving mediocrity since my belief is the burn it down method just keeps us in a rebuilding state… Keep in mind things sometimes do get personal here and i understand that’s unavoidable with people on two sides of an argument, both passionate about the subject they are arguing, but statements like that have no place on a fan site, because no matter how much its insinuated, its not true and whats worse is you guys know it,
D
I tried to read this post
But I just focused on the middle of the post
I love medians
😉
For you piggy…………
Do any of you think i put as much time into scouting players for this team because i love mediocrity? Do you think any of us put the time and effort into adding and contributing to the discussion of this team because we love mediocrity? I could as easily accuse you guys of loving mediocrity since my belief is the burn it down method just keeps us in a rebuilding state…
Some people feel if something has a problem you destroy it and build anew, some look at it and go, not bad foundation just needs some work. Im in the latter group but within reason. I want this team fixed, i want to get us back to glory every damn bit as much as any of you burn it down types but in my opinion (every drop as good as yours) we get there faster by continuing to build off what we got.
Keep in mind things sometimes do get personal here and i understand that’s unavoidable with people on two sides of an argument, both passionate about the subject they are arguing, but statements like that have no place on a fan site, because no matter how much its insinuated, its not true and whats worse is you guys know it,
Good post btw
Obviously I am just being a smart ass
Amen.
Worst story I have ever read
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Lol gave her a nutty story….so corny.
That is so messed up
Some one stole his balls to sell on the black market
Wonder what they would pay….i mean if my balls are worth 100k its not a bad idea, im done having kids anyways, give me a couple of boading balls and i can make meditative sounds while i walk.
D
I love the spacing
Seriously
It’s so much easier to read
I am probably guilty of overspacing
But if you weren’t wearing pants, you would understand
I think trying to “replace” Wallace is missing the mark a little anyway, as our scheme clearly didn’t play to his best strength, and he clearly didn’t want to be bothered becoming the more well rounded X type receiver that this scheme calls for. That said, I’d look to a guy like Parker, or Cooper or White (not all will go before our pick, although I wish White didn’t run so fast in Indy, because I really hoped he’d fall to us), and I’d call that crew upgraded. I don’t normally say this, but all these guys are competent route runners and I believe all will contribute as rookies next season.
This rookie class is REALLY impressive from technique standpoint. Usually you have a bunch of athletic freaks, speed demons, just traits that you say “if we can just refine it”…a bunch of them have that, your are not hearing the word raw said about many of them, even down to the ones projected in 2nd and 3rd rounds. This may be the best overall WR class i have seen.
They are all better than they used to be
Bc colleges are passing more now
This is probably a great time to draft wrs
Totally agreed. I have been of the school of thought for a long time that WR is the hardest spot for rookies to contribute at, but I sincerely believe this class is deeper then Piggy’s samurai class, and that class was the one that started breaking the “rookie WRs can’t contribute” mold.
DBolt
Diggs also accelerates very quickly
And does it with great balance
I don’t think Wallace does that so well
Its about acelerating through you cuts not fast cut fast. You get separation when you dont have to pause in that hitch in your route, and Cooper is masterful at it, and as has been said before, a BUNCH of them are pretty good at it too,
Jahn
I want a guy like Parker, White or strong first and foremost
But I also want speed
I do think it opens up the field
Those guys are all pretty fast though
I think Wallace does not have a diverse skill set
But some of the speedy guys we mentioned will do fine with underneath passes
Dorsett probably will excel in that area
Diggs too
I think you can get both if you draft one in the 1st. I really like Cooper more then Strong though. But you can get your speed guy in Dorsett, JJ Nelson or Chris Conely later on.
Also, I’m starting to feel like WR speed is getting way too overrated. (Always preach 40 times are over rated) in this scheme separation is king, and 8 of 10 times, separation comes from deception, not raw speed. I like to see a guy who is smooth in his route running such that he’s making a cut when the DB isn’t anticipating it. Whether he can outrun the DB or not in a footrace comes into place once a game at most for most WRs.
Id rather have Hardy over a pure speed guy. Dorsett, they are right he does run good routes and plays a lot like a slot guy. He isnt typical for your one trick pony speed guys.
Parker is better at quick slants,crossing routes and quick outs, he is built for YAC, shaking off a guy and then accelerating to his top speed. White is incredible on post routes, film i saw him on, he sliced through the zones on that route so fast the defenders didnt have a chance to react before he had it and was gone….They compared him a lot to Cordarrell but i think he looks more AJ Green.
I know he’s known for speed but Dorsett is tough as hell going over the middle, produces YAC, and will fight for jump balls. I like everything about the kid.
I like Dorsett a lot as well.
Pretty mediocre height, and average vert. I like him too but don’t see the jump ball thing that you do. Still think he’d be a great slot reciever in this scheme though.
That said I still think Perriman might end up being the best WR of this class when alls said and done.
DBolt beat me to the lunch on Dorsett
But here is Diggs
You know you and i have been talking up that guy. He fits the mold here well. Id be happy with him if thats who we took in later round.
Gotta be honest, these guys making these highlight reels need to stop trying to be so artsy and high production value. Just show me the fucking plays. I don’t care for the imagery and would rather spend that time watching more game footage.
Just a pet peeve. The intros are getting to me, and the repeats with uber slow motion every other play too.
dbolt48 says:
February 26, 2015 at 6:19 pm
That said I still think Perriman might end up being the best WR of this class when alls said and done.
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Only thing that concerns me is he drops a lot of passes. Athletically you might be right, he has a lot of things that stand out, but they brought up how man drops he had last year at the combine and it was a lot.
I don’t see a huge issue with drops really. I’ve only noticed the drops when he looks to run before he secures the ball & it gets on him. He has REALLY a strong hands. His explosion after the catch is different than any of the bigger WRs in this draft. His ability is rediculous
And here is Cooper
speed and speed alone is purely overrated. Its a thing that some receivers, like Wallace have gotten by on, but now the NFL has gotten smarter and the CB more talented. Lot hard to keep up with a guy when your back-peddling that hits a cut and doesnt lose a step. You have to react, alter your coverage and match his speed, and usually by that time, he is two steps ahead and has the ball in his hands. Its about being really good from a technical perspective with decent physical skills to enhance it.
OK – Let’s clear this up. No one here is happy with the performance of our team, but some are more tolerant of it than others. Some stand on the rooftops and scream about it (That’s you Kong, only because you can) and some let it go and look to the future. I think that sums it up pretty well. I scream from my computer, because I’m not a 50 foot ape.
I don’t scream
I squeal
I don’t think Taevon Austin nor Cordarelle would go first round in this class. Both probably 2nd or 3rd rounders…maybe like they should have been.
I think tavon would
But he would slip
His speed wowed people
I think Hopkins would still be my favorite of this class
I agree about Patterson
He falls to the 2nd round
Maybe, I was pretty vocal that I thought Tavon was all speed and wouldn’t be a good fit in the NFL because of his size. So far that looks pretty accurate. But people do fall in love with 40 times. Problem with little speed guys is that in the NFL frequently just a bump from the bigger defenders can take them off their feet, rendering their speed less deadly. Also…everyone is fast in an NFL backfield, so you don’t see so many highlights of a guy just running away from a defender.
Love that diggs video. My favorite part is the FSU game and the FSU DB thinks he has an easy pick and Diggs sticks his hand out and one hand pulls it back and the FSU guys is like WTF.
Diggs is very aware of his surroundings
He catches a lot of deflected passes
It’s weird
Yeah the reason i keyed in on him early when i was looking at WR prospect, seriously back before season ended, was because of his return skills. A lot of what makes a good receiver in our system is same skills you need to be a good returner. So id start my looks with guys who also doubled as their team return man and how good they were at that and then started expanding my review of them from there.
HARDY
jahndoh says:
February 26, 2015 at 5:05 pm
I love when you think I said something that I quoted someone else as saying. The quotations are a hint.
and i love when you think i cant read.
So then why address me? Why tell me the thing about “telling people what kind of fan to be” if it wasn’t for me either?
Jahn, what you don’t like every highlight video starting off with: yeah… uhhh… check it out… uhhh… yeah… LOL
One day
Someone brilliant will be able to set a highlight video to this
FFR – We all know you can only read numbers
Tim
There are no Zeppelin highlight clips, you’re just salty.
This would be a good tune for highlights.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore,
Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords.
On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.
So now you’d better stop and rebuild all your ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.
anyone got decent film on Chris Conely? His vert (rather then his speed) intrigues me. He’s a freakish athlete…but I want to see him run routes.
Did you see FS Eric Rowe? He was one of the top performers in every category for DB’s
Will definetly get there. In WR mode right now, but I did see his ridiculous numbers. i’m leary of workout warriors, but if a guy stands out at the combine I feel like I’ve got to check him out to see if I was missing anything….
Thanks Piggy. Would like to see him vs. press a bit more. his routes didn’t stand out to me, but he did do a double move in that clip that looked pretty sharp. I kind of like that he’s a Dolphin’s fan.
Mike E, I’m not tolerant of us falling short every year, but with this regime I knew it would go through a transition phase because Philbin and Sparano have totally different philosophies, so you have to give a coach a chance to build his program, especially when he started out with a rookie QB and he himself was a first time HC. It’s not like this regime’s teams have been at the bottom of the league and not competitive.
Changing coaching staffs and even personnel guys has been the one constant in mediocrity since 2005. Each time you make that change, they bring in their own philosophy and players and it takes time to build the program. I believe in allowing a regime at least 4 years and if they don’t have some success (playoffs) during that time you make the change, but switching every 1, 2 or 3 years isn’t a good formula.
You’re certainly more tolerant than I am!
I got sick of the constant change and teams with no identity.
I don’t even think “tolerance” matters. To imply someone is “tolerant” of losing implies that NOT being tolerant would change anything.
It’s just different reactions. Whether I throw my tv in the street or take a loss in stride and smile and hug my daughter afterward, has no bearing on that game or the next one. It’s more an indication of self control then anything else. JMHO.
When it comes to discourse on the blog, well, I’m a positive guy. I prefer to spend my time talking about positive stuff than just berating the players and coaches that I root for on Sunday. So yeah, sometimes that wears on me. but I also understand I’ve got to “tolerate” others’ desire to lash out if I want to be here.
When it starts as a conversation about Wallace, gets 180’d to be about the defense, then i find myself defending my position on the HC. That wears on me. Is what it is though, I’m still here.
I don’t think it’s self control either. I just find it necessary to show my displeasure, and say “It’s NOT OK”, and we need to do better. Does it actually accomplish anything? NO, but neither does being positive.
That sums up me pretty well. I follow sports to enjoy it, not have it frustrate the shit out of me even if it does for a few hours. That also makes winning that much more enjoyable.
Earlier Gigi pointed out the amount of points we allowed down the stretch in 4-5 games and followed it up with but that’s Wallace’s fault? Nobody blamed Wallace for our record or overall performance, it’s a team game, complimentary football, and he absolutely helped us win 8 games. That had nothing to do with him quitting in the Jets game because of selfishness and immaturity. So the topic got turned into something completely different.
Glad I edited the OP. I originally said it was a reflection on maturity level. LOL…
Gonna stick to my guns on this one. Control of anger is absolutely the very definition of self control. Doesn’t take months of blogging and venting to achieve this: “I just find it necessary to show my displeasure, and say “It’s NOT OK”, and we need to do better”.
Still, I acknowledge your right to conduct yourself however you choose. Like I said, I’m still here.
Also
http://draftbreakdown.com/players/chris-conley/
Draft breakdown usually has good links
jahndoh says:
February 26, 2015 at 7:06 pm
So then why address me?
oh i am sorry. i didnt know i wasnt allow to address you. so i guess undressing you is off limits too.
really dude, it was nothing more then a simple comment about the mediocre topic. i didnt know i had to have a formal invitation to talk about it with you
You have to say 5 our fathers and 17 Hail Mary’s before addressing him.
Walk the mile and put your self in my shoes. You quoted me with “Jahndoh says” then proceeded to only post a Tim Quote, then talk about it gets old when people tell others what kind of fan to be. It shouldn’t be that hard to see why I addressed it.
You don’t have to have any formal invitations from me, and you know it. Lets just move on. Doesn’t need to get contentious.
PS, you’re really crossing a line when you start undressing me on the blog!!!!!!
Jahn
I really didn’t get much from that clip
And I know nothing about him
The first thing I look for is whether a guy catches with his hands
And he appears to do that
The double move at the end was nice
mike
your wrong, i can read. that number thing is all fake. i just pretend to be a cpa. kind of like you when a hot chick comes into your office, you just pretend to be a gynecologist
Silly Tim says:
February 26, 2015 at 7:16 pm
You have to say 5 our fathers and 17 Hail Mary’s before addressing him.
lol wow, wonder all i am going to have to do after i unaddress him.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/chris-conley-vs-tennessee-2013/
A little better
yeah. He’s ok. I wasn’t crazy impressed. Went the wrong way on the screen, but that can be coached. Didn’t turn up to run the wheel route and instead broke it off in the flat. Didn’t face any double coverage, and got handled decently well on single coverage.
Still like his athleticism, and will stay open minded, there’s more film out there. Does anyone know if Georgia ever runs WR option routes? There’s a lot of that in our scheme, so it’d be nice to see if he can read a safety or DB and adjust his route accordingly.
In regards to Conley from the 2 games available. Positives: he has a great jab step, can make acrobatic catches, and is a good run blocker.
Negatives: he rounds his routes, gets lost on the field, and he doesn’t play like a 4.35 player as DBs stayed tight with him.
Needs to be coached up in route running and adjusting with his QB on the move.
From what I’ve heard he’s a bright kid and actually does some script writing. I believe he made a StarWars short film that people liked.
That’s a positive
He’s a dolphins fan too. Another positive. I wrote my reply above before reading yours fwiw.
Didn’t know that
LOL @ FFR – No hot chicks walk into my office, just by it, when they’re going to SUBWAY, but they won’t be hot for long eating that garbage. lol
jahndoh says:
February 26, 2015 at 7:27 pm
PS, you’re really crossing a line when you start undressing me on the blog!!!!!!
It’s fuckin weird is what it is. Don’t ever pick up FFR along the way to the game, he’ll reach around from the backseat and tweak your nipples while you’re driving and make groaning sounds. LOL
jahn
i crossed a line? what? me? no fucking way. i mean never. i would never cross a line on a blog. how dare you. you make it like i am the type what would post a vid of some guy fucking a pickle jar. now please lets drop the undressing stuff before ken gets all green with envy.
LOL…it doesn’t only happen when he’s angry? Sheesh!
Customer: Hi, I’d like to get new frames.
Mike E: Fantastic then, I need to see your vagina.
Customer: What?!!!
Mike E: It’s just company policy, simple stuff, so show me the muffin.
Customer: Oh my god, I want to talk to a manager.
Mike E: Okay but you’ll have to wait, he’s doing an anal probe.
Customer: Ugh… I’m calling the police.
Mike E: You’re in luck, the Chief is right over there, the guy not wearing pants.
LMAO! Show me the MUFFIN!!!!
LMAO….
Customer: I refuse the vagina inspection!
Mike E: Lets see if I can waive that for you…..(scratching his head while staring at the screen)…nope, sorry Ma’am this new software won’t allow for that.
Now THAT is an absolute truth. This program is just awful. So much more work, it’s preposterous. Here’s an example. Let’s say a patient purchases 5 pairs of glasses, I have to print up 5 separate receipts, there is no one receipt that will total up all 5 pair, or even 2 pair. It can only process one at a time. I can have my smartphone control everything in my house and start my car, but we can’t have one receipt total up for more than 1 transaction at a time? Is this 201, or 1985?
Mike E: It only works once we’re down on the muffin.
Customer: This is absurd and obscene!!!
Mike E: Yeah… life has a way of doing that. Like my Dolphins and the fucking coach.
Customer: Huh?!!!
me walking in jahns shoes
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV3nSDENfOMwdvkFTLoQWDDxIgA6-xz47B403lHFX5hjKTJ_Pq1A
mike: ok this machine is just going to blow a little puff of air in your eye. it is testing you for glaucoma
customer: aaaahhhh that isnt my eye
mike: it is ok, that isnt a machine
LMFAO!! I actually laughed out loud in my office.
LMAO!!!!
“Is this 201, or 1985?”
Swing batter!!! LOL
Oops, I meant 2015
“mike: it is ok, that isnt a machine”
I found saying: “it is ok” funny, instead of it’s ok.
Clown goes to a kids B-day party and this hot Milf walks up and asks if he knows any Magic tricks.
Clown: “Sure! Go inside hike up your skirt and face the wall”
Milf (eager to comply because she loves magic tricks does as told)
Clown: You feel my finger in your vagina?
Milf (confused about how this equals magic): “Uh…yeah..I feel it”
Clown (reaches around her with both hands and waves them in front of her face): “See? MAAAA-GIC!”
LOL! What am I a clown? Do I amuse you???
All I have to say is if Tannehill could throw an accurate deep ball, wallace wouldn’t have been pissed and would’ve scored about 10 more TDs. So, I blame Tannehill and his shitty deep ball. Wallace is the victim here!!!
Now put that in your bong and smoke it. Lol
Taylor — whose foundation raises money to improve the lives of children — would like to see the Dolphins address linebacker and cornerback but said: “I like a lot of things about the team. I love
the quarterback. There’s not a whole lot of guys in this league I would take over Tannehill. I’m very confident you can win with Ryan Tannehill. You can definitely win a championship with him.”
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/02/thursday-night-chatter-on-wallace-beasley-jagr-jts-thoughts-canes-add-player-for-2015.html#storylink=cpy
Randy,
JT just told you to go eat a dick😋
MikeE,
You need to glue a $100 bill to the floor just outside the door to your store…sit back and wait for the hotties to try to pick it up…and make sure you’re sitting behind a desk, so nobody sees what you’re doing with your pimp hand.
Hmmm, that could be interesting . . . . .
Dbolt,
I’ll bet you a $100 we never win a championship with Tannehill.
I’ll bet you a $100 that when our Oline gives up 35 or less sacks we make the playoffs😂
of any kind? I’ll take that bet. I think he wins a few AFC Easts before it’s over at the minimum.
randy
that is ture, but if the online held there blocks for .2548 seconds longer while the sun was at a 23.75 angles to the circumference of Ecuador and wake was holding jordans hand while telling philbin that ‘this guy will make a great olb’ all the while mike e was giving the cheerleaders his ‘glaucoma’ test then it wouldnt be tannys fault wallace is unhappy but rather tim’s fault
Blah, blah, blah, I guess when we get another half dozen playmakers…and 5 all pro offensive linemen….maybe Tannehill can get us to more than 8 wins….and you can all pat yourselves on the back about how right you were. Gosh, I sure hope it happens before my prostate explodes and kills me. Lol
Lol@your prostrate exploding
What did you eat???
Not pro bowl OL, just not guys who get run over like a sack of potatoes.
You keep missing me on the deep ball except for a few of times, and you throw TDs to other players and not me. I quit! Waaaaahhhhh… waaaaahhhhh!!!!
Dbolt,
I’ll bet you a $100 we never win a championship with Tannehill.
lol fuck that dbolt, i will bet you a night with the NLC’s he wont. and i am not randy i dont hate tanny. it is just a stupid bet. pretty sure marino never won a SB and he was the best pure passer ever in the game.
Dbolt,
Come on now…less than 35 sacks…..let’s be realistic. How about below, say, 45?
Tim,
As if a WR whining about not getting the ball thrown his way is unique or new. I really don’t get why people are making such a big deal of it. It’s only happened about 1000 times in the league. Do I like players like that? Absolutley not, but then, I never liked wallace to begin with. Lol
WR quitting in the middle of a game is very very rare.
That seems to get lost in the conversation… uhm… every time. It’s not the locker room, or he’s late and forgets his shoes, or is hungover in practice, he quit playing. Quitting is the worst thing a player can do on the field.
ffr,
Dammit…stay out of my unrealistic bets. Remember, when Marino played, it was all the defense’s fault. The difference with Tannehill is it’s EVERYBODY else’s fault. Even the water boy’s “high quality H2O” simply doesn’t hydrate enough.
I’m sure that when Hickey drafts a whole new team of pro bowl talent, Tanny will get us to the playoffs.
I have one question. Will Philbin still be HC when we get into the playoffs?
Jahn,
Really? Because people here in minnesota claimed Randy Moss did it almost every game. Lol
There are lots of ways to “quit” without walking off the field and saying you won’t go back out.
Let’s get into a really deep debate about the positives of quitting on your team. LOL
Randy
Is this what you ate for dinner?
It’s hell on the prostate
And, again, I’m not trying to defend what Wallace did. I didn’t like it either. I just don’t think it’s all that unique. If they think it’s time to get rid of him…that’s fine with me.
Just don’t start bitching next year when we’re wondering where those TDs went because no way does a rookie or anybody currently on this team put up this TD numbers.
Mike E
Here is how you can bring those ladies in your store
Piggy,
Nope! A Kwik Trip pizza! It was on sale for $5, so I couldn’t resist. I’ll pay for it later.
That reminds me of poor decision rob Lowe
Piggy,
When I first saw that pic, I thought the words at the bottom said “College Hummer”. Brought back some great mammories. Lol
MikeE,
Since TANNY will win us a championship, like, never…..my guess is Philbin will not still be our coach.
Well it happens this year. It is known.
Ok, should we talk about anuses, pickles and recipes some more?
Randy, 10 TDs isn’t unprecedented. I don’t think Wallace is impossible to replace. I don’t even care if the total passing TDs get spread around, this guy with 7, two guys with 6 and one with 5 etc., just execute and do a better job in the red zone. We get there often but stumble for all sorts of reasons.
Tim,
So, if a player takes a play off or a WR doesn’t run his route very hard, or he is supposed to block but doesn’t really try hard…or maybe doesn’t make any effort to block, is that quitting?
No that’s an issue with drive and ultimately professionalism. Quitting on the play and walking off the field while a rookie RB is being attacked by 3-4 defenders is a disgrace. Landry the rookie WR comes flying in and tries to help and he wasn’t even near the play when it started.
‘I didn’t like it either. I just don’t think it’s all that unique.’
yep. i agree. just like tanny missing the deep pass. not all that unique. why once again the answer to fixing this mediocre team is way more then a qb or def or a quitting wr.
yeah jahn i said mediocre what you going to do about it.
LMAO @ FFR & Randy
I’ve never met Randy, but he reminds me of Rob Corddry by his online persona😊
Tim,
I agree. 10 TDs isn’t unheard of or anything. My point was more that folks seem to be willing to label Wallace as this or that when the bottom line is he produced….and I do not believe it will be as easy to replace that production as people seem to think. and, Wallace could have had another 4 or 5 TDs if the throws were there. I don’t blame him for getting frustrated because he was playing his ass off to get open, and his QB didn’t get it done. I do think he should’ve handle that frustration better…and I think the team should’ve managed the situation better to help prevent this from ever happening.
Two different discussions there. I’m not debating Wallace being frustrated. My issue is with that whole quit thing. I can’t stomach that sort of shit. It’s cowardly.
Dbolt,
I wish like hell I could afford a trip to one of the fests. I’d love to sit around drinking and shooting the shit with you fellas. I think I come off much more cantankerous than I really am. But, who is Rob Cordrry?
Randy,
Corddry is a funny guy:
ffr,
Yep, a mediocre team led by a mediocre qb. Feels good to admit it, doesn’t it? So freeing….
What’s up FUers? I say fuck Wallace and his quitting ass. You walk off the field because you are upset your team mate scored the TD instead of you. You might as well keep walking out of the facility as far as I am concerned.
Very sensible post.
Did he walk off the field after his teammate scored a td?
He was benched in 2nd half
He may have said he didn’t want to play
He defiantly half assed block on a play and wasn’t playing with heart at all
I think people formed a lot of erroneous opinions
I don’t want to defend Wallace
He did a half assed job and clearly didn’t block for miller (I think) which was unfair to FO to a teammate
But I don’t think what you said accurately describes what he did
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12089019/mike-wallace-miami-dolphins-benched-second-half
I don’t think he was upset about personal stats