New Age- My Fan Origin
My fan origin starts with my father and his part of the story influences all of the rest. My father was raised in a time when the NFL wasn’t nearly as popular and baseball was still king. His grandfather loved the Reds and didn’t watch that other stuff. He preferred football and has always considered Shula the greatest coach ever (he is). He would watch football whenever given the chance but only one game a week because there were more important things to do than just watch TV.
He transferred his allegiance when Shula went to Miami. Those early years were amazing and I wish I had seen some of those games (thanks for letting me relive them OD!) After high school, my dad experienced a bit of wanderlust and decided to explore Florida for a few weeks with his younger brother. They saved up a few weeks of pay and were off. It was an awesome experience for both guys but after 3 weeks…they ran out of money and headed back home to West Virginia. Several years later, he met my mom and they moved to Ormond Beach, Fl. It was a rough but magical time for them but they moved back to care for their parents and grandparents four years later…with two boys in tow. It was a tough decision but they missed their family. Many summers during my early years included trips back to visit where I was born. It’s sad to see the Florida of the 70s and 80s disappear so completely. It was definitely a different place back then.
I can’t remember my first games as a Dolphins fan but I was always one because my dad raised me as a fan. My earliest Dolphins memories are some of the best though. The early 80s teams were very good and as I got older, Marino was a weekly addiction. We were always ‘in the hunt’ and no one had a better QB during the 80s and 90s.
My dad hasn’t seriously watched the Dolphins in 15 years. They are not the preferred weekly choice in our Virginia market, Marino and Shula retired, and he just doesn’t have as much fun watching this team without his kids. He also really enjoys the atmosphere of college football. As a Hokies fan, his taste in college ball seriously diverges from mine but we will always have the same pro team. I’m hoping that we will soon be able to watch a SB together and be cheering for the same team in it…the Dolphins. Let’s hope Hickey, Ross, and Philbin can get us there sooner than later.
Finsmob Unleashed 
first—good story. A lot of transplants are from the north and during the last two decades most new Floridians are from foreign countries.We have several S.Americans living in our neighborhood.
Here’s my dilemma. My granddaughter asked me a question I can’t answer. Maybe with all the smart people on this board someone can answer it for me and I won’t disappoint her.
What happens when someone dies in California while visiting from Florida and its 10pm in California. Did they die at 10pm or 1am in Florida the next day? I was thinking of giving her the gmt as the answer but I can’t be sure its correct
How can I google this?
That’s an easy one. If it happened in California It happened on California time. Time space
Albert Einstein showed us everything is relative
thanks
Rockfin is right
I see hundreds of death certifcates int he course of my job
The time of death corresponds to the place of death
The RG’s & RT’s Of opposing teams are going to have their hands full this year. No more Titans running free across the middle. They will have to chip in block.
Tight ends Not Titans
Ndamukong Suh = LeSean McCoy who?
Nice story New Age!
The good news is if the signing becomes official tomorrow Suh would be that angry guy who’ll give the cheap shots to the Patriots when they pull dirty shit. Unlike Wake if Suh gets tackled by an OL he’ll get up and throat punch him and kick him in the nuts.
And give up 15 yards in a first down, hey at $50,000 fine and be suspended for four games
LOL. I prefer to see the fighting spirit opposed to the bend over and take it spirit the team has adopted the last couple of years😁
here’s a question . Does suh get suspended for 1st game since he was able to have the NFL reverse its 1 game suspension last year before the playoffs.
He does not face a suhspension. The penalty was reduced from a game to a monetary fine.
Great story- thanks New Age!
Thanks New Age, we appreciate everyone’s stories. Feel free to send us your fan origins story.
Great Story New Age
Where is Ormond Beach?
The north side of Daytona Beach
Okay
its sounds familiar
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/574700945835192324
Lets go Dolphins!
Re-sign Clay!
Yes, I think he stays here
Looks like Frank Gore to Philly.
I saw a report on the SS that we plan on cutting Brandon Fields. It’s a pay article so I couldn’t read it.
Kyle Christie P…..UF i mocked him as a 7th round pick a couple times. I am for keeping Fields but considering they are cleaning up heavy contracts, his is up there, so its a possibility. Christie has a really strong leg and is one of the nations top punters.
Now listen people what I’m telling you
A-keep away from-a Runaround Suh
I hope this does not turn out to be prophetic
Say it isn’t so Tim, Stanger will be a basket case and he’ll really hate Suh.
LOL, no fans of Wheeler, Ellerbe, Starks and Odrick should hate Suh, thats where his money is coming from. He should hate Wallace, because they save about as much cutting him as Fields.
Don’t forget Grimes. His mouthpiece is foaming shit out of her mouth….LOL
Great story New Age. Thanks for sharing.
Piggy is going to be in court today going up to people telling them you just been Suhed.
Some of the Suh fallout:
Beasley says Fields is going to get cut.
Hyde is saying Reshad Jones gets cut
Everyone is saying no we we can re-sign Clay.
Beasley says Wallace most likely comes back.
Clay can be re-signed. No way they cut Jones. Fields is definately in danger. Wallace still likely to be cut or traded. There fixed all that.
If Buffalo pays Clay 8 mill per season he is gone. We can’t afford that now. We will see on Jones and I think Wallace is back. We can’t afford to lose Hartline, Gibson, Clay and Wallace. We will keep Wallace. He doesn’t clear that much cap space for us.
I’ve never heard Jones fetting cut
Omar is saying Clay won;t be signed
I don;t buy either
Suh was possible to sign without those moves
Unless we are making more moves
dbolt48 says:
March 9, 2015 at 9:30 am
Don’t forget Grimes. His mouthpiece is foaming shit out of her mouth….LOL
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For everything i think about Grimes and the fact he keeps his mouth sut and just does his job, his wife more than makes up for it in a negative way.
Exactly. As I said I think it was Friday or Saturday the extent of her tweets it sounds like Grimes will be gone next year.
We still have to clear over $10 million cap space to just sign Suh and get to $0 on the cap. That does not include money for the rookie class, other free agents and emergency signings during the season.
We currently only have 58 players under contract and we are only 9 million under the cap.Some painful cuts and decisions are headed our way.
Painful, like Starks’s 5 million and Ellerbe’s 5.6?
They wont equate to 11 million in cap savings and we still need both roster spots filled. Plus we still need to make room for other free agents and rookies.
Also your not taking into account the June 1 designation savings we get for Wheeler come June 2nd.
Ken says:
March 9, 2015 at 9:46 am
They wont equate to 11 million in cap savings and we still need both roster spots filled. Plus we still need to make room for other free agents and rookies.
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Ken, Ellerbe’s roster spot is a backups spot since he was gone all year, and Starks is replaced by the guy they are clearing up space for.
Also 5+5.6 is damn near 11mil.
But that is not the true number of the cap savings. They count more towards the cap than just there base salary because of pro-rated signing bonuses.
Piggy:
Hyde reported the other day that Jones is likely to be a cap casualty if we sign Suh. Also more than just Omar are saying we can’t sign Clay. Beasley was just saying that on the radio twenty minutes ago and the commentators on NFL radio were all agreeing with him.
Ken
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/miami-dolphins/
If you cut ellerbee you cleasr 5.6M in cap space by itself
Starks in another 5M
Fields is 3M
S. Smith is 2.75
Misi is 2.75
Wallace, if cut, will save another 2.5
and that is all pre June 1
Look at the savings after 6/1
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/miami-dolphins/
wallace close to 7M
Wheeler 3M
Ellerbee 8.4
This is where the Suh money is coming from
But we still need to be under the cap tomorrow and that is still a 10 million differential.
Suh won’t have a 20 mill cap hit this year it will be around 4-6 mill. We can easily fit that.
That’s right
the big hit is next year
But I can see 10M this year
I think you guys make way too much about what Miko says.
It’s no different than what any network person with their own show does on CNN/FOXNEWS/MSNBC/CNBC. Style is the only difference. Trash talk is trash talk :P.
As for Brent, we have no idea what he feels like. He may like to say those things Miko says but knows he can’t and may enjoy hearing his wife vent for him. On the other hand, he may not really care what goes on because it doesn’t affect his job (only his performance does). If people in his circle gave him shit about what Miko says, i’m sure he’d feel differently but the people he rolls with obviously don’t really care.
Hey if she’s his mouthpiece she said he’s gone if they ask him to restructure or try to cut his pay next year….that’s going to happen. Also said he’d be gone if the team paid a DB more than Grimes. He’s done after this year.
Ken says:
March 9, 2015 at 9:51 am
But that is not the true number of the cap savings. They count more towards the cap than just there base salary because of pro-rated signing bonuses.
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Ken, that is the EXACT number of cap savings.
Ken man you are really aggressively disputing everything. I can show you the web page that shows the cap savings if ya want, but i dont misrepresent things for my own argument sake.
Piggy posted the link I was wrong on Ellerbe and Starks cap numbers.
Ken,
The post June cut designation is backdated. It all counts towards the current cap.
Okay so Ellerbe and Starks clear enough room for Suh but how do we clear 8 million for Clay? Where does the 5 million for the rookie pool come from and can we make any more moves in FA?
Great story New Age! Thanks for sharing it with us
Ken
Let it play out
these guys, our local beat reporters have no idea what they are talking about
particulalry with salary cap stuff
I’m under the impression we already had the cap space you are saying we need
The Dolphins put the transition tag on Clay
No offer can be made to clay until Tuesday
and then they get a chance to match the offer
I don;t think they need to cut anyone now to finalize the Suh deal
The cap space numbers that I am citing is what was being reported on NFL radio this morning. We still need to make nearly 10 million in cap space by tomorrow. It looks like we can do that wit releasing Ellerbe and Starks which would bring us to $0. Then we need significantly more to resign Clay who is reportedly going to be offered 8 million by Bills.
Those numbers are wrong
How muich is Suh making in year 1 ?
How much cap room do we have now?
That is what matters
I won’t be shocked if we can’t re-sign Clay. That’s kinda what happens when you allocate a shit-ton of money to one guy. That being said, you all shouldn’t worry so much. It seems you’re forgetting about the Mighty Arthur Lynch!
Damn straight….ART gonna tear it up😜
No team that has signed a non QB to a $100 million contract has ever won a SB. Only one has gotten to a SB. Small sample so far but Cardinals with Fitzgerald, Lions with Calvin Johnson, Redskins with Haynesworth and Texans with Watt.
Hope springs eternal- but you know I have been saying this for a while
There was a lot of risk involved with this signing. It’s why I feel it was a desperation move by coaching/player management. The odds/history are/is way in favor of this not paying off.
While that may be true, it’s a relatively new number. It sure does put you in the hunt though, and you have to admit, we’re a better team with him on it.
Although different times this deal is more similar to the Reggie White deal. That kind of money wasn’t being thrown around then but this caliber of player and each one’s ability to dominate is very similar.
I think it’s more similar to Albert Haynesworth- and not because I think he’ll be lazy, though that is a possibility.
Reggie was an aging star being a mercenary to the highest bidder on shorter contracts.
while that may be true there is a saying everyone is familiar with defenses and SB.
That sample is so small its not even a sample
its a crumb
atcually take a look at 100M contracts in general
The Ravens haven;t won a SB since signing Flacco
The Packers haven;t won a SB signing signing Rogers
The Broncos have no won a SB since signing Manning
The Steelers have not won a SB since signing Rothlisberger
The only 100M contract that I wonder if the contract was signed pre super Bowl win is Drew brees and Eli Manning
but I think they got their $$$ after the super bowl wins
@RoadToRadioCity: DUDE… RT @Rand_Getlin: Source: the #49ers are bracing themselves for the loss of LB Patrick Willis. Expecting him to retire.
Wow, a relatively short career. Does he have concussion issues?
No its his huge savings towards cap thats his issue.
They had rumored they were going to cut him. Maybe he took the alternate route out.
Looks like the Phins are asking my boy to take a pay cut. I hope he does, but wouldn’t blame him if he decided to test the waters instead. He was back in his own stellar form by the 2nd half of the season.
I hope he stays here too, besides a great punter he’s an even better person in the community. Good player, good man.
Ken says:
March 9, 2015 at 10:04 am
Okay so Ellerbe and Starks clear enough room for Suh but how do we clear 8 million for Clay? Where does the 5 million for the rookie pool come from and can we make any more moves in FA?
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You are guessing on the 8mil for Clay, that would be an excessive huge deal. Jimmy Graham recently signed the largest TE contract, and he makes an average of 10mil per. Is Clay anywhere near Jimmy Graham honestly? Gronkowski is 9mil per, is he that close to Gronkowski? He also has competition at TE this year with Cameron and Thomas available, and i doubt any of them get 8mil per, though Thomas may is Jags with a ton of cap space throw a lot at him. The 5 mil for the rookies comes from Smith and Wheelers post June 1 cut designation. I also dont think Wallace is safe as long as Clay is resigned, we can replace Wallace.
It’s been widely reported that the Bills will pay Clay 8 million per season.
First, New Age…? isn’t it amazing how many Fin fans got started because of Don Shula!!!!… not some famous player. Growing up in Iowa, the Packer fans I knew were Bart Starr fans, not Lombardi fans. They became Lombardi fans post-mortem. I still contend the Don Shula of 60’s through mid-80’s is the greatest coach in NFL history (his last 10 years were like a 5 star meal where the dessert had a hair in it). 🙂
Second, Time / Space evaluations… how freakin’ cool is THIS football site. lol
This cool:
I’m really worried about Stanger if we cut Fields . . . .
I would too, especially since I live on the 37th floor.
😮
I contacted Mrs Stanger and she has hidden all sharp objects until this passes.
stangerx says:
March 9, 2015 at 10:14 am
Looks like the Phins are asking my boy to take a pay cut. I hope he does, but wouldn’t blame him if he decided to test the waters instead. He was back in his own stellar form by the 2nd half of the season.
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Its inevitable, especially for punters and kickers.
count me down as one that thinks signing suh is a mistake. I think Ross wanted to sell some tickets so he made a splash.
Oh big surprise there, Imagine that Boulder doesn’t like something.
We should sign Jay Cutler to 100M contract b/c he is a QB
– the Bear
FAIL
You sign quality players to big $
not quality positions
I wouldn’t worry about the cap, the people paid to do it are on it. We wouldn’t have gone after Suh if we couldn’t make it work.
We’re going to show up on opening day with 34 guys
34 very good ones anyway!
Well, it not just fitting him into the cap, it’s who we have to sacrifice to make that happen. Will you trust those same people if they knowingly sacrifice the ability to sign Clay?
I have to because Suh is the guy they wanted to revamp the team with. I’m a Dolphin fan first, players second.
We’ll make it work, no doubt about that. I’m more worried about next year, and even more so 2017 when both Suh and Tanny should be on the books for big cap hits.
Exactly Tim
Once upon a time I Oinked
“We should sign Suh”
and was quickly told it was impossible
Turns out it was very possible
I find myself extremely frustrated that the Dolphins sign a future hall of fame player in his prime and fans still criticize the team
Our next origins story should have stronger massochistic undertones and be narrated by the gimp
Try Pod says:
March 9, 2015 at 10:20 am (Edit)
Reggie was an aging star being a mercenary to the highest bidder on shorter contracts.
No sir, Reggie finished his career with the Packers. His second and final team. He went there just as he was hitting his prime and he may have never moved except the death of Jerome Brown was likely the impetus for him moving along.
Browns death is what pushed Reggie to move on. If Brown was alive White would have been an Eagle.
If you say so- I still say it was more like haynesworth.
New Age — that is one great story. You and Your Dad are two other great benefits that his franchise got from the Don.
Man I don’t know what to say?
Yesterday someone posted that THE Miami Dolphins have landed the Highest rated FA for the last three years if the Suh Signing goes of tomorrow!
Can you just imagine the excitement that should make throughout the fanbase!
My team is doing everything they can to put a winner on the field!
Now there are 1,000 ways to skin a cat!
(Don’t know why it’s not a squirrel or something you actually skin)
But first you have to have a CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sometimes I think Top is right!
WV forever
SMMFH 😦
Here is a photo of a dedicated Dolfan
He is known for saying thank you air may I have another
Reggie White was one of the best players to ever suit up. Amazing that Reggie had over 100 tackles some seasons, along with 15 + sacks.
He was probably the greatest interior D-lineman ever, Suh is probably top 3 D-line of his era and a legacy has yet to be written. Let’s watch it play out – ON OUR TEAM!
Different Era where the run game allowed DL more tackles. Wouldn’t happen in today’s game, but he may have had a 30 sack season here & there…LOL
Alright you wishy washy back and forth mofo’s look:
You said we needed more top shelf talent
You said the guys we have here now are no big deal that any could be replaced.
You said you’re tired of mediocrity
You said our d line layed down at the end of the year
Well every one of those claims has been addressed, the front office did what they are SUHposed to do. Enjoy!
I guess making a big splash really helped last year and the year before in your eyes. News flash we made 2 big splashes and ended up 8-8. We’ll see where we are next year.
You need not worry about my eyes, I see just fine.
Wyo
We’re not doing everything we can , but I’m not going to get into that right now . . . .
I know the coach sucks
The (you fill in the blank) Sucks
Everything Sucks
I didn’t say everything sucks, that’s bullshit. I think I’m a pretty realistic person, in regards to our team. Like New Age was kind enough to share his Fan Origin, how his dad was a fan of Shula. Not sure how many people are fans of the Miami Dolphins because of Joe Philbin.
Kendall Langford is a free agent. The Rams cut him to clear cap. Maybe he wasn’t worth what seemed a high price after all.
@ProFootballTalk: Jared Odrick likely headed to the Jaguars http://t.co/nOT6pMb2Q1
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Guess what dickball was claiming Odrick was signing with Oakland???? The All Knowing Eye.
I think it’s funny that you guys are getting frustrated. No doubt we’ll be getting a great player, and I think we can get the talent we need to help the offensive side of the ball, and get a quality LB, and at least one quality DB (S or CB) in this draft. That will help tremendously. If we do that, there is no reason on earth why we shouldn’t make the playoffs, and no more excuses for Philbin.
Common myths about NFL contracts -> Base salaries (including year 1) are guaranteed, roster bonuses are guaranteed, option bonuses are guaranteed, signing bonuses are pro-rated evenly over the years of the contract life (e.g. Gerald McCoy’s was not as TB chose to allocate 2/3 of it in the cap years corresponding to McCoy’s first 2 contract years).
Only the signing bonus is guaranteed and it is paid out immediately to the player upon signing. The first year base salary and any roster bonus is ‘virtually’ guaranteed because no team will cut a player soon after signing them.
Also, contract terms can guarantee any range of certain year base salary + certain year bonus money if negotiated by agents as a means against injury protection (if clubs decide to defer some money for cap purposes by agreeing on a certain number for a signing bonus but then on paper splitting that into two tiers -> 1 as a signing bonus and 2 as an option bonus.)
Also, you see NFL contracts where certain guys have their 3rd year base salary and some other bonuses guaranteed if they are roster-ed by the first week of the NFL new year in the 2nd year of their contract.
The bottom line? Not all contracts are created equally and the devil is in the details. Headline comments about guarantees don’t state when certain dollars are due which by default define ‘guarantees’. Agents love to mention guarantees to news outlets as a way to drive their own business.
Mike E,
No doubt about it, all the pressure now is on the coaches. If the team goes 8-8 or hell even 9-7 (assuming RT is not injured or the Suh and a few others hurt on D), Ross will point to the coaches and not the players.
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero 16s16 seconds ago
The Dolphins plan to release P Brandon Fields, per The Herald’s @AdamHBeasley
That’s right Al. This is it. Ross has spent a fortune trying to get this right, he’s not going to accept not making the playoffs, nor should he.
Try Pod says:
March 9, 2015 at 10:13 am (Edit)
There was a lot of risk involved with this signing. It’s why I feel it was a desperation move by coaching/player management. The odds/history are/is way in favor of this not paying off.
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Beasley’s take this morning was different. This is apparently all Tannebaum. He is apparently pulling the strings. He thinks Hickey and Philbin are going along for the ride because they lack the pull to object right now.
I agree its Tannenbaum, I said so last week when the signing became eminent, he has to establish himself as the alpha-male of the office. But at least he got one of many favorite players in the league while playing “mine’s bigger” with Hickey.
BoulderPhinfan says:
March 9, 2015 at 10:34 am
I guess making a big splash really helped last year and the year before in your eyes. News flash we made 2 big splashes and ended up 8-8. We’ll see where we are next year.
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Mike Wallace, primarily known for work as a post route runner, was signed for big money but put on a team with the 2nd fewest down field attempts the last 2 years not to mention issues with Tannehill not connecting deep often. Chemistry issues were not even considered (though Ireland had experienced the same crap with BMarshall and didn’t learn).
Brandon Albert was a necessity and he delivered up until his leg was snapped (it happens in football; can’t do much about it). Fins did draft Turner and James among others to plug more talent along the lines and I’m sure they will continue to select more OL to eventually churn over Albert (Turner is still seen by many as an option at LT down the road).
Ken,
I don’t think this is a strict Tannanbaum move at all. Hickey and Tannanbaum both came from organizations that put a premium on the DT position under a philosophy that a defense is built from the inside out (McCoy in TB; Wilkerson in NY).
I don’t either but you knew it would be perceived like that. I’m pretty sure everyone knows who Suh is. LOL
Look at the contracts the Lions had with Megatron, Stafford and Suh as well as other players. There are ways to make it work.
Work all the way to..
Wait for it..
Mediocrity
@ArmandoSalguero: Brandon Fields is scheduled to cost $3.9M in cap. Releasing him would save $3.1M. After bad season, cap hit too high.
Ken,
I don’t see much risk in this anyway. I think it’s known that if the Fins are not performing as a good playoff team come 2017, Suh himself is at risk of being cut. I think the Fins front office will continue to stock talent at all positions and eventually keep their options open on cutting any high priced guy. The biggest disasters come when you go out in the FA market, sign a guy for big money to get a quick fix at a position, AND then ignore it in the draft for several years.
Dbolt,
Agreed. Kickers are a dime a dozen. No way I’d ever pay any high dollars. You keep bringing in guys on a weekly basis to try out if you don’t have an established guy.
I like Fields, but not at $3.9 million.
I’m sure at the Dolphins roundtable they asked
“Who wants Suh”
And only Tannebaum raised his hand
…come on guys
Every year you fall for these in-house dramatics
Everyone In Football wants Suh on their team
No but I would bet it might be something like Tannebaum saying you guys need to shoot higher, Suh is not out of reach we can get him here we don’t have to draft Shelton and hope he helps we can get the best player in the game at that position. More as a rally cry than a brilliant idea.
Tannenbaum walked over and slapped Hickey and Philbin right in the face with his thang and said “we’re signing Suh. Any questions?”
Ross: “ok who wants Suh”
Tannenbaum: “Me”
Philbin: “Why do you want to Suh me?”
Ross: “What the hell is wrong with you?”
Ross: “Dennis please quit picking your ass and sniffing it, we need to make a big decision!”
Is this how some feel the brain trust came to their decision????😆
Silly Tim,
A top level talent getting paid top dollar at his position? never! lmfao.
Wow Patrick Willis rumored to retire.
Crazy
Not sure why things have to be so polarizing. If you don’t like this move, you’re either an idiot, or not a real Dolphins fan. WTF?
I’m happy with the move, I think we’re a better team with Suh, and i think we’ll get even better in this draft. On the other hand, I can see some valid points in what the people who are saying it won’t work too.
I don’t, and never have, given a shit how anyone else feels about the team. I know I’m a sucker and this time they got me two ways, a huge FA signing that should really help us plus it is one of my most favorite players. I can assure you of another 12-4 prediction from me.
I don’t see anyone questioning the player, only the price and where else it could have been put too. And if he got about market value, that should be a legit option for any signing.
Last year Suh had 8.5 sacks, topped 37 quarterback hurries and 21 tackles-for-losses. That roughly averages to a half sack, 2+ hurries and two tackles for loss each game. That’s 4-5 plays he kills each game by himself.
And that’s while taking up two guys on the O-Line. Not gonna be doubling Wake anymore unless they are in max protect.
It should mean less guys per play to cover. Teams will have to keep a TE or back or both in allowing our secondary to have more double and triple coverage opportunities.
I can’t see guys like Wake, Vernon, Jordan. McCain, hell, everyone on the defense not being excited, and knowing this will make their job easier.
Sorry for being the voice of opposition here but I see too much money tied up in a player not a QB when we have other holes to fill especially on OL and WR. Do I like Suh? Hell yes. He is a tremendous talent and I will enjoy watching him harass Brady but I would be lying if I thought he was the missing piece.
very true
Maybe Shaq Thompson begins to make sense. A guy with speed to the outside, who can cover a back or a shallow receiver route. Teams will want to get outside away from our middle we have to be able to get out there with speed and good tackling.
Darby is good against the run as well as a corner. Tackling on the edges is crucial so we can force things inside to the Suhpressor.
Thompson and McKinney
The thumper and the rabbit! 🙂
dbolt,
Just as I suspect, the Jags don’t intend to draft DL at the top of the draft :P.
I think they become a prime trade contender, not with us, so they can pickup Trae Wayanes
Tim,
LOL @ Niners front office (on Willis rumors). That’s what they deserve.
When’s the last time a team competing for a SB got blown up by management? Bunch of sorry asses.
The owner and his buddy GM are a joke.
I agree they have totally screwed up that team.
Ken voice of opposition is a great thing, it balances things out. Trust me i listen to your arguments, i just feel i have also defended against them as to how we can maneuver it cap wise. I think Tim said itbest though. The team is going to make the moves it can make, they arent stupid, and if anything Aponte has always shown she can work contracts with long term in mind very well. If she thinks she can do it, its can be done and done without castrating the team. I don’t think ya need to worry over it, and i think it will achieve exactly what you are wanting for our team. Its going to make us better.
No offense, but just because they’re making decisions, it doesn’t mean they’re making the right ones. We just cast off a lot of players we just picked up a couple of years ago, so this teams decision making is not beyond reproach.
Oh, and it also doesn’t mean they’re not stupid. lol
CavalierKong says:
March 9, 2015 at 10:58 am
Tannenbaum walked over and slapped Hickey and Philbin right in the face with his thang and said “we’re signing Suh. Any questions?”
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Someone in the meeting said “Where can we find money to sign Suh?”
Tannenbaum looked at the roster list and went “We are paying a kicker 3.9 million dollars?”
Hickey laughs going “That’s what I said when I saw this last year”.
LOL
LOL
Tim,
Did you see the rumor surfacing over the last 12 hours that the Niners shopping him with Bears as a potential buyer? Seems the Niners may be looking to move up and get Mariotta.
Him being the key word there. LOL
Did they die at 10pm or 1am in Florida the next day?
well tell her, if they can get back to Calf by 1am they would still be alive
son of a son of a shula says:
March 9, 2015 at 8:40 am
Thanks New Age, we appreciate everyone’s stories. Feel free to send us your fan origins story.
i would share mine but it would nothing but pictures of cheerleaders
Then please share.
I have to say this weekend has been crazy league wide. All these signings already announced and FA doesn’t start until tomorrow. This new 72 hour window is madness. I drafted an article for tomorrow that is already outdated. It references my dislike the possibility of signing Suh. So much for that.
New Age, good read.
Mike E, I think what D was saying is the people who work with the cap know what they’re doing, not necessarily that the moves will pan out. Fans tend to think everyone is stupid but them. LOL
I know that to get Suh on your team is not stupid.
Thats exactly what i was saying.
Thank you D for understanding where I am coming from. I hope you are correct.
And Mike E too.
Yeah man i get it. It is kinda scary. I mean you have possibilities that a player after a big contract lays up, or gets injured or a lot of things and then your stuck with big money on the table and nothing to show for it. We all are nervous about that but you gotta swing for the fences sometimes. Albert move was risky. Thats a lot of money in a guy who missed a lot of games previously with injury, and so far we havent really got our moneys worth, but they HAD to do that if we wanted to protect Tanny and hopefully start moving int he right direction. I know its a lot of money but thats kinda how i see this move. Its a bold move, with risk, but its our best shot at really moving forwad on defense and making steps to catch the Pats.
Mike E. says:
March 9, 2015 at 11:27 am
No offense, but just because they’re making decisions, it doesn’t mean they’re making the right ones. We just cast off a lot of players we just picked up a couple of years ago, so this teams decision making is not beyond reproach.
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Yeah Mike, under different management. Tell me who is better to make decisions than the people hired to make decisions. Noone is beyond reproach, but (‘ers have been heralded here as people who make awesome decisions. How ya think about their recent ones? That team is looking like its in shambles, and its same people making decisions now as before. No one is beyond reproach, and no one is going to hit 100% of the time. The guys that are going were decisions made by someone who is gone for making bad ones…so why are you holding accountable the new guy for the past ones mistakes? I know you tend to be a cynic, but still asnwer me this, who is paid to make these decisions, and are you saying a person who has spent years at this profession is more clueless than a bunch of fans on a blog?
Ken says:
March 9, 2015 at 11:08 am
“Do I like Suh? Hell yes. He is a tremendous talent”
i agree with you on this. how do you not like a player with his talent on your team? but truth is he is just one player and this team needs many many other holes filled (i know i know that is what she said). and didnt tanny have a hard enough time last year with a new offense and now they are going to give him a new WR staff. as fun an idea signing a player like suh it doesnt get me excited about hope for this season.
Exactly how I feel.
WR’s that are gone were not productive, and their production is likely elipsed by the rookies drafted to replace them. I feel same about Wallace but i get why we are leery to cut him with Clay being an on the fence re-sign. WR’s are quickly beoming just like RB’s. Old expensive can be replaced by young cheap. This is a DEEP class, and i dont think ya need to worry about Tanny working with guys who want to come in and make their place. I think you have more to worry about with guys who are old diva’s who want the team to conorm to them instead of busting their ass to conform to team needs.
that’s how I feel too. We have too many holes and one player is not gonna change anything unless that player is a great QB.
Alright. Going to play some hoops then I got to get some work done. See everyone on Suh’sday.
Lol, that was a clever one
My biggest fear with high paid FAs are injuries. It seems like such a void when it happens. I felt sick when I saw Albert rolling around on the ground.
Suh has never missed a game due to injury
Only suspensions…lol
All it takes is one awkward moment but yes he seems very durable.
Ken
Mind don’t mind the oink of opposition
I just think in this case, we need to let it play out to see if their are negative consequences that make it a bad move
Right now I think all we know if that we signed Suh
And are the envy of many teams who could not
Ok, I’m a bad guy. Sorry I question the move. It has been proven not only that signing the highest price FA has always paid off for the team paying because history shows that, but it has also been proven that this team, from ownership down through the current coaching staff, knows what to do and how to do it, because a again, history shows it. I have no right to question ANYTHING because I’m just a stupid fan, on a blog where people come to, you know, discuss what’s up with their favorite team, and I’ve only been a fan for like 40-odd years, which means I probably haven’t seen enough football to warrant a dissenting opinion. Forgive me. But please, feel free to tell me I am wrong or that my opinion, the one I have based on my ability to take in information and make suppositions and assumptions that, I admit, are wrong sometimes and I make a point to acknowledge my error, is uncalled for, incorrect, no way I could be right, invalid, etc., though I think I am one of of not the least confrontational, opinionated person on this board, with perhaps the exception of Herd.
Glad to see you coming around, lol
of of= of if
Btw, I have also said I love what this guy can (potentially) bring to this team, and that I will cheer my ass off for him.
Trade back if you can or whatever but I would love our first 3 picks to be Philip Dorsett, Denzel Perryman and Ronald Darby. Or if those were our 2-4 players and we get a big receiver at 14 that would be even better.
I’m going with Strong, Perryman and Ifo
But same idea
LB, WR and CB
I would love to get an OLB as well
FFRob
I think the reality is the 2013 WR makeover was poorly done
And we need to revamp the whole thing again anyway
In short, we should have drafted samurais
(The earth shakes below piggy)
Yup, you were correct.
It sounds like clay is going to the bills.
What makes you think that?
The newest rumor is that we are interviewing Brandon Graham
this is from Omar
“But have the Dolphins really improved in this one move? My answer is NO when you considering Miami’s on the verge of losing Charles Clay to the Buffalo Bills unless they decide to match a substantial offer for the team’s starting tight end.”
FA signigns all have gamble associated with them. Are they a scheme fit success, do the players around them on current team help them look better, will they get injured, will they lay up after big contract. I mean lots of risks right, and it doesnt matter if they are 17 mil or 10 mil signing, you still have worries. Albert i was really worried about and it happened, what i was most concerned about. Still it was a good signing and you could see that for the games he was there.
You cant predict injuries, you cant tell if a player that busts his ass for 5 years is going to immediately flip the script and lay up, you wont know until they are out of that environment if it was a scheme thing (though you can generally tell from film if that is a possibility). It is what it is and its always a gamble. Manning was a HUGE gamble, first big hit coulda snapped his neck like a twig, and not ya got 20mil invested on Timmah from Southpark. It is what it is and you guys wanted bold moves and now your scared as shit we might actually make one.
Im going with Parker (hopefully Vikes dont snag him), McKinney and Golson.
Piggs, I really like the dynamic Dorsett can add to the offense. I think with the guys we have already and then you add him he becomes a very difficult cover for defenses.
Never said anybody was a bad/good fan!
Just don’t understand the negativity some times!
I’ll be honest sometimes it frustrates the hell out of me!
We Had a need and got the best in the league to fill it!
We still might take a DT in the first just like last year to replace Starks this or next year!
Since when did questioning= negative?
It’s not negative
It’s a good thing
But right now I think people have no reason to think the worst
Maybe some of it comes from reading it instead of hearing it?
and I was never talking about one person!
This mornings VIBE just caught me wrong!
Maybe I’m just sensitive this morning.
Need to go check my cycle or something? 😉
I never said I think the worst. I simply have been pointing out what I perceive as the potential “cons” to the overwhelming amount of voices bringing up the potential “pros”.
That’s interesting
D
mind you my biggest point was needing way more then just suh. but replacing the whole wr staff or close to it, is no way a good thing. no matter the reason or who is to blame.
Boulder
Omar has been saying if we get Suh we lose
Clay for a while
It’s just Omar speculation
Just for you Son, WY, Pigs, I am currently listening to
“I’m SUH Happy” by Chicago.
Because, you know, he is definitely going to make us winners, no chance it could backfire!
Brandon Graham has other moves written all over it. He’s a 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE type so if we add him, someone else won’t be playing there or will be moved. I think we can all speculate about this.