By Dr. Bruce Banner End of football season and not yet start of league year mean Hulk have some time to calm down and relax. Hulk no think about football too much and Hulk no get angry too much. Funny how that works out. But now this coming Tuesday the league starts and that means the start of free agency. This get Hulk starting to think about football. Hulk start to think what free agents might Dolphins sign and what free agents might Dolphins lose? As Hulk begins to think about the various scenarios Hulk start to get sweaty, his chest starts pounding, his head start hurting and Hulk start getting angry thinking about mistakes that team might make. Hulk think of many things that would make him angry. This is what would make Hulk angry in free agency: Signing Ndamukong Suh for crazy big money. It’s not that Hulk doesn’t like Suh, in fact Hulk have great respect for Suh and his style of play. However, Hulk sees to much money to be spent on one player on defense. Hulk see many other needs that may not get addressed if we sign Suh such as contract extension for Ryan Tannehill. Then there is fixing the offensive line and wide receiver. For the same money that we spend to sign Suh we could sign Mike Iupati and Randall Cobb. Hulk think that would make much bigger impact on team than 1 defensive tackle. We would solidify the interior of the offensive line which would mean Tannehill would have more time to throw and Miller would have more open lanes to run. At same time we could add Randall Cobb who is ideally for Dolphins offense. He has speed to get deep but thrives in the short to intermediate passing game. Nearly one half of his 1,200 yards were after the catch. Tannehill thrives in the short to intermediate game as well. If we sign Cobb, then we have 2 wide receivers who play very well in space and can line up in multiple positions including the boundary, the slot or the backfield and at R1P14 one of these 3 wide receivers are likely to be available: Amari Cooper, Kevin White or Devante Parker. All of whom would be excellent boundary receivers. We would fix OL and give Tannehill multiple weapons to work with but if we sign Suh then this is not possible as we will have no money to bring in veteran OG. We will be forced to draft and rely on rookie OL instead. There are other good options for interior OL in free agency other than Iupati. Vladimir Ducasse of the Vikings, Orlando Franklin of Broncos and Jah Reid of Ravens give other options at OG for Dolphins to get immediate help on interior OL. Another option is to sign Steve Wisnewski from Raiders at OC and keep Mike Pouncey at OG. Another thing that would make Hulk angry is if we sign Jared Odrick to big contract extension. Odrick play a lot but not make many tackles or sacks. Also Dolphin run defense really struggled with Odrick playing DT. There is talk of Odrick getting an $8 million dollar per year contract. Hulk no see that and Hulk be very angry if Phins pay Odrick that much. There are other good DT options available that would be cheaper. Dan Williams for instance is very good run stuffing DT and he be cheaper than Odrick. Terrence Knighton may not be cheaper but he is better than Odrick. Vince Woolfork is now on the open market, maybe he like to come back to Miami for a short term contract and take up space in middle of field. Nick Fairley, Suh’s team mate is also free agent and is better than Odrick. There are too many good options at DT to invest that much money in Odrick. Hulk also hear people talk about signing a veteran running back like Frank Gore. This also would make Hulk angry. Again Hulk like Frank Gore but Hulk no not to sign a running back on the wrong side of 30. Hulk thinks Phins have their running back with Lamar Miller. What Phins need is a quality back up running back/short yardage specialist. There are good options in draft including a Hulk favorite in Tyler Varga. Hulk would see no reason to spend cap dollars on a veteran running back when it is a good year for running backs in the draft. Hulk would also be very angry if we no address the secondary in free agency. Right now Phins have 2 quality defensive backs on roster in Grimes and Reshad Jones and there is talk of cutting Jones to make cap space for Suh. Hulk getting angry just thinking about that. Jamar Taylor flashed talent in limit playing time last year. He may or may not be ready to be a full time CB. Louis Delmas was the starting S but he get injured and is now a free agent. We need at least 1 safety and one corner back. The market not great but there are some decent options that should not cost much. One option at CB is Darius Butler. He has proven to be a viable nickel back the last several years in Indianapolis and would not break the cap budget. Byron Maxwell be available at CB but he more expensive and Hulk no think he would be as good away from rest of pro bowl secondary in Seattle. At safety Hulk like Tyvon Branch from Oakland Raiders. I know Hulk like his Uconn guys but Branch has been a quality player who goes under the radar on bad team. Branch has speed to play center field and again not likely to break cap budget. Also Hulk like Antrell Rolle who is also a free agent. He is a proven ball hawk with 9 interceptions over last 2 years. Plus he is known to be a hard worker and good club house influence. Tom Coughlin called him the hardest working player he has ever seen. However he is likely to cost more. Finally, Hulk would be very angry if TE Charles Clay is lost to free agency, especially to Buffalo Bills as it was reported that coach Rex wanted to sign Clay. The imposition of the transition tag now makes it less likely we lose Clay as with transition tag Phins get right to match any offer. However, reports are that Bills still willing to make big offer to Clay. If we lose Clay there are not many good options in either the draft or free agency. The TE class in the draft is one of the worst in recent years. Most of the 40 times of the TEs in this draft make Arthur Lynch look fast. The free agency class is headed by Julius Thomas but he would be expensive and he will also be playing without Peyton Manning, DeMaryius Thomas and Wes Welker. Hulk not sure he worth signing for the kind of money he will demand. Jermaine Gresham is a quality TE but probably not better, or as versatile as Charles Clay. Jordan Cameron on Cleveland is available but again Hulk thinks Charles Clay fits Fins offense better. So Hulk thinks it is important to re-sign Charles Clay or else Hulk be very angry and no one wants that. 
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Finsmob Unleashed 
This is an awkward Chip Kelly photo
He’s getting ready to ream somebody’s ass literally.
I’m gonna get you. Hehehehehehe…. you poopy pants! Hehehehehe!!!
Duck… Duck…Goose
LMAO!
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 24s25 seconds ago
Dolphins Releasing DT Randy Starks http://bit.ly/1wWD60d
They almost had to after signing Suh. Maybe he’ll re-sign at a lower a price.
Tim, Titans seem willing to give Mettenburger a shot.
Maybe, maybe not.
I owe you a beer. See my reply to Tim above.
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 15s16 seconds ago
Patriots sense Darrelle Revis will be a Jet, per @AdamSchefter http://wp.me/p14QSB-9J5m
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Man the news is flip flopping on Revis, Jet Pat Jet Pat
Gonna hate him either way
Brian in NY says:
March 10, 2015 at 4:39 pm
Lol! Schefter just reported 20 minutes ago that the Jets were likely to sign him.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
Another WR gone RT @AdamSchefter: Free-agent WR Torrey Smith has reached agreement on a five-year contract with the San Francisco 49ers
They’ll draft DGB unless we grab him first.
Hey a player going in the right direction for the 9ers
First good news for the Niners since about midseason last year.
Tenn has been flip flopping on Mariota to create confusion and draw up value for the 2nd pick overall. Owner endorsed Mettenberger, GM/Coach said they werent convinced in him after the owner acted a fool and said that public. That would have fucked up the value. I dunno if its a smoke screen or not because they have bounced around so much.
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 18s19 seconds ago
49ers Agree To Five-Year, $40M Deal With WR Torrey Smith http://bit.ly/1xbj7Wk
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WTF does Revis insist on being in the AFC East? There’s a whole NFC East to be explored if he loves the East so much.
San Diego Chargers @chargersbuzztap 48s48 seconds ago
http://boltsfromtheblue.com >> San Diego Chargers officially sign Orlando Franklin to 5-year deal http://buzztap.com/-8iQSOK
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Ben Volin @BenVolin 22s23 seconds ago
#Patriots also declined to make a qualifying offer to WR Brian Tyms, making him a free agent
Neal Driscoll @NealDriscoll now Abingdon, MD
I don’t know what the price is on Justin Blackmon but he certainly has my attention
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Neal hasnt learned enough from watching the browns deal with Gordon i guess.
The Finsiders @TheFinsiders 27s28 seconds ago
Crew now discussing the latest on #Dolphins TE Charles Clay. Listen on @940WINZ & http://www.miamidolphins.com/finatics/comment-center/ …
James Walker ✔ @JamesWalkerNFL
# Miami Dolphins LB/DE Dion Jordan traded to Philadelphia for a ham sandwich
Fuck yeah! i LOVE hame Sammiches!
yeah, the trade was nullified because it didn’t have Guldens on it.
D, is now officially the MF13 of Finsmob Unleashed! 🙂
LOL, just trying to provide a service lol.
Oh and minus the conspiracy theory,
LOL, touche’
Rockphin says:
March 10, 2015 at 4:46 pm
I still laugh at you for having a punter’s jersey. LOL
man that is low. at least i just laugh at him.
Ahhh ffr — that’s why I’m here. Just trying to make the world a happier place.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 21s22 seconds ago
The #Titans deal with Da’Norris Searcy is for 4 years, $24M with $10.5 guaranted by @UniSportsMgmt. Just a handful of starts before signing
Anyone think Rex is barking now you go and re-sign Revis you fuckin shit bags!!! LOL
They can’t understand him when he has a foot in his mouth.
‘Dion Jordan traded to Philadelphia for a ham sandwich’
yeah but then some on here would say the coaching staff wouldnt know which way to eat the ham sandwich
Fold it in half and stuff it in your HOLE!
they would probably put miracle whip on it. eeewwwwww
Yeah man i dont like that sweet shit.
After the twitter explosion its almost uncomfortable not seeing new tweets come in. Making me nervous.
The Finsiders @TheFinsiders 20s21 seconds ago
Big 5pm hour set to begin on @SunSportsFOXFL & @940WINZ as we break down all of the #Dolphins free agent moves:
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Moves?….its like one move lol.
I know! but what a move! Locking up Fields for a few more years….oh, wait, you mean another deal?
Owen Daniels to the Broncos is quietly one of the bigger moves. Thats pretty much the same TE he had in Indy.
Am thinking about Daniels for FF right now.
…and same TE that Kubiack had in Balt.
No announcement of Suh to Miami yet. Maybe the tampering with the windows articles are making them pretend like they actually negotiated the thing today. If a shocker comes up it sure won’t be that he is going back to the Lions after they traded for Ngata.
Drew Rosenhaus @RosenhausSports · 31m31 minutes ago
Antrel Rolle is visiting the Bears but DOES NOT have any agreement with them or any other team at this time
Nogtih all!
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley 1m1 minute ago
Paperwork has been submitted for the Fields contract. He took a pay cut, but is still in the top 10 in pay for his position.
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Hmmm, Packers didn’t offer a tender to RFA WR Boykin, he’s only 24
5 6’2 218, had a good season in 2013 when Cobb was injured.
Miami Dolphins Buzz @dolphinsbuzztap 21s21 seconds ago
http://bleacherreport.com >> Dolphins Will Reportedly Be Required to Write Ndamukong Suh a $60 Million Check http://buzztap.com/-87yQ8O
thats a lot of fucking 0’s
That is Suh how not it usually works unless he is getting a sixty mil signing bonus.
Maybe that’s what is taking so long?
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 5s5 seconds ago
Keenan Lewis wants rest of contract guaranteed or out of New Orleans http://wp.me/p14QSB-9J5C
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Wallaces buddy.
D, Owen Daniels is also the same TE Kubiack had last year in Balt. Good move after losing Thomas.
stangerx says:
March 10, 2015 at 5:02 pm
No announcement of Suh to Miami yet.
that is just cause roger is still waiting on a call back from billy to make sure he is ok with the deal also.
bill: well roger, what if he gets close to our little tammy
roger: bill i told you dont worry, i am suspending him cause tammy cant pronounce his name correctly
It’s Marsha, get it right…we don’t need to confuse Tanny as being Tammy.
Suh deal might not be officially announced until tomorrow, like they did last year with Albert.
Stanger may just be the happiest Dolphins fan. Congrats buddy! How many calls did you make to the Dolphins Front Office? 😀
LOL — truthfully, I wasn’t all that worried. We’re talking about a solid guy with deep ties to the community.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley 15s16 seconds ago
Schefter also reports that Clay is on his way to Buffalo for a visit.
That blows…they were supposed to give a big offer to Lee, but he’s bolted to the Raidaz.
Stanger, can the wife work her magic and still be able to sew that jersey back together?
Dude — Jersey is still in the frame above the Brandon shrine, right next to the three sets of towels with his sweat on them I bought on E-bay, just like always.
WOW, the creepy alarm just went off.
LOL GDP — then I guess I shouldn’t tell you about some of the more private items. 🙂
I’m looking at CBS sports.com to see all the moves. There’s a headline that says “Browns Eye Revis”. I thought Darrelle had a new nickname. lol
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 1m1 minute ago
Report: Texans seeking to strike a deal with Vince Wilfork http://wp.me/p14QSB-9J5G
Along with Indy apparently.
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 32s32 seconds ago
Colts Sign OLB Trent Cole To A Two Year, $16M Deal http://bit.ly/1wWjppj
Miami Dolphins Buzz @dolphinsbuzztap 21s21 seconds ago
http://bleacherreport.com >> Dolphins Will Reportedly Be Required to Write Ndamukong Suh a $60 Million Check http://buzztap.com/-87yQ8O
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My understanding is that they have to escrow that amount today. They don’t pay it all to Suh today but the guaranteed portion is put in escrow and then paid out over the length of the deal as identified in the contract.
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Field Yates @FieldYates 46s47 seconds ago
Source: the Dolphins have released OL Shelley Smith. He was due $2.75M in 2015.
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I called for that one in my offseason writeup
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 11s11 seconds ago
Report of “mutual interest” between Eagles and DeMarco Murray http://wp.me
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 18s18 seconds ago
Terrance Knighton Says #Raiders & #Broncos Are Out Of Running http://bit.ly/184Nk2N
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Baltimore?
#who cares. LOL.
Somewhere in South Florida Stanger is running around with no pants on celebrating the Fields restructure.
Celebrating for sure, particularly cause it comes with “in your face” icing to an extent.
stangerx says:
March 10, 2015 at 5:17 pm
Dude — Jersey is still in the frame above the Brandon shrine, right next to the three sets of towels with his sweat on them I bought on E-bay, just like always.
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WOW, the creepy alarm just went off.
LOL GDP — then I guess I shouldn’t tell you about some of the more private items. 🙂
Are you Finkle or Einhorn?
LOL — not like that at all…….just have a wall of Brandon photos in my bedroom, but all were taken without violating stalking laws. Ken actually called it “an artistic display.”
I would love to see Wilfork on Indy so he can give the finger to the Pats.
Piggy’s sister reporting….
Judy Battista @judybattista
Shot at Chip? Shady McCoy opens his Buffalo presser with ‘feels good to be appreciated.” Whee!!!
You guys miss my post about Shelley Smith cut?
Alright. Got to pack up and head home. NFL Radio should be a good listen. Peace to you all.
With the Shelly Smith cut, I hope the Phins have a vet FA LG signing to announce.
Welcome my boy Clint Boling! 🙂
…or I’d take Wisniewski too.
https://twitter.com/phins_nation/status/575407433440432129
$2.75 mil gets you a pretty nice G all by itself.
We may have to fall back to Cameron as a TE replacement if we lose Clay.
No Cameron, that’s not the signing pen, that’s the celebratory cigar for after you sign….SMH
LOL i get it, but i mean its a guy we can get to provide a good offensive weapon even if he does drool on the table in the receiver meetings.
LOL, he’d look cute wearing a Dolphins bib with the new logo.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 35s36 seconds ago
The #Jets release Percy Harvin.
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See how long it takes the pats to sign him.
Stanger, sounds like a cool collection, just don’t send photos of it and you to Brandon. He might file a restraining order like Matt Moore did with Home….just sayin
LOL — The “just saying” part almost makes me worry you don’t know I’m joking. Well played.
I know you’re joking man…I actually found it cool that someone had the balls to be a fan of a punter. Kudos bro.
Punters do deserve more love than they get. Next on that lowly list is LS. 🙂
I was tempted to get a Denney, but he’s the oldest guy on the team (not good math for a jersey).
Hope you come to next year’s fest…..it’s a great time.
By far the most FA day trades i have seen ever. Lots of activity overall but the number of trades is crazy.
I wouldn’t touch Jordan Cameron – His next concussion is his last.
The next big knock on his dome makes him Cameron Jordan.
Percy if we lose Clay?
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 2m2 minutes ago
Bengals Sign LB A.J. Hawk http://bit.ly/1wWKI2W
If we lose Clay to the Bills, then with that extra money we should sign a vet FA OG of course, like Boling, then sign CJ Spiller! BAM Bitches!
Ben Volin @BenVolin 43s44 seconds ago
I’m told Revis wants $40 mil guaranteed over 3 years and the #Patriots balked at the full guarantee
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 1m1 minute ago
Report: Patriots, Jets, Packers, Steelers & A ‘Mystery Team’ In Running For Darrelle Revis http://bit.ly/1xasllq
Jerry Jones is the mystery team, calling from a pay phone across the street from Cowboy HQ…..lol
See below, looks like its the Bills.
Maybe Clays replacement is Tyler Varga
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 11s12 seconds ago
Texans traded QB Case Keenum back to the St. Louis Rams for a 7th-round pick in 2016, per league sources.
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M13 is losing his shit right now.
That pick will come in handy over a year from now…lol
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 6s6 seconds ago
Well, this is interesting: Bills also expressing interest in free-agent CB Darrelle Revis, per sources. Rex does love his CBs…
Maybe the Steelers will shock everyone and get Revis and get him the fuck out of the ACF East lol
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 28s29 seconds ago
Bucs release Anthony Collins http://wp.me/p14QSB-9J61
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 56s56 seconds ago
The #Patriots are still searching for playmakers. They inquired about CJ Spiller in that Shane Vereen role.
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Lol when Clay steps off the plane in Buffalo in shorts he was wearing when he left Miami and freezes his nuts off we get him back here at a discount.
We hope
I have been in Buffalo area even later in the year than this and had to wade through thigh high snowdrifts.
Interesting thought. Jimmy Graham for this years R2P15 and Mike Pouncey?
Bucs gave up on Collins after just 1 year. I wonder if Hickey was part of scouting that deal?
He came in having played LT well for Cincy. I’d like him here as a LG/swing T.
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 1m1 minute ago
Raiders making a run at RB DeMarco Murray, per league source.
Bills chasing Revis helps us on the Clay front.
Wont help much, they have the cap space to sign both.
my long drive is over… and what do I see? Graham traded to Seahawks… damnnnnnnn, never would have seen that one coming (maybe I’m not paying close enough attention).
Jaguars signed TE Julius Thomas to a five-year, $46 million contract with $24 million guaranteed.
That move helps Bortles for sure.
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 12s13 seconds ago
Jags are in it for DeMarco Murray, too, per league source.
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Things ramping up for Murray
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
Dolphins announce the release of Philip Wheeler. Surprisingly, have not yet cut Ellerbe.
Kinda shocked Ellerbe hasn’t already been cut. Wonder what they are waiting for to make that move.
He may restructure, what LB wouldn’t want to play behind Suh to re-establish his value again.
Seems Phins clearing more room, maybe be able to ink Clay to a longterm deal and get a OG, then sit & wait till the 2nd & 3rd tier FA begins.
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 19s19 seconds ago
Revis’s reps have told teams they have $48M for 3yrs on the table now, with $40M guaranteed. My sense if that is from the Jets…
Lotta coin gteed for an aging player…let them spend it.
Its like a Revis auction……
Just a reminder (especially for Stanger who asked a question about how the tag works above). Clay getting an offer does not mean we won’t sign him back. We have the right of first refusal on the contract (for lack of a better description) we’ll have to match the contract to catch him.
To those asking if Clay is worth 8m per year, well, let me ask you this: Is Clay 75% of the player that Jimmy Graham is? Because with inflation that’s probably an 11M dollar per year deal.
I think he’s worth what the market will pay for him. We have been so bad as an organization at developing top tier players in the NFL, that I’m utterly shocked how many of you are so flippant about letting Clay walk because you think 8M a year is so daunting.
What’s another million when Suh is driving off spilling that much off the back of the Brinks truck he’s driving….lol
Im a firm believer of the market is what it is. 8 Mil per wouldnt shock me, but that saidit might be even higher , and we do have to draw a line somewhere. 8M would be mine.
When we tagged him at 7, given the cuts that have been made we have more than a mil left, just in those cuts to pay the extra mil. Again though i wouldnt go higher.
GDP, good point on a possible Ellerbee restructure. Maybe that’s what’s happening
Thanks…I hope so, it makes sense, you can’t gut the entire front 7 just to get Suh.
I even bet Suh’s agent is behind it too. He wants his guy to look good on a solid Defense.
So for now Ellerbe & Starks are still Phins…I hope one or both agree to a nice pay cut / restructured deal.
I thought we heard that Starks was cut?
Nothing official yet.
Son, Shelly & Wheeler were cut today….you know of Finnegan and others from previous.
OK thanks D
Gore to the Colts
My son has gotten into Madden big time, and he knows most the Phins players from playing the game. He ask me questions about some of them all the time. Bad thing about today is he’s 9 and im going to have to go home and tell him some of those players are gone. I’ve gotten use to it but i can remember the days when i found out some of the Phins wouldn’t be back, wasn’t easy.
Well when I was a kid, before free agency, it was common to see guys you liked be mostly lifers on a team.
Now everybody is a fart in the wind. A 9yo can understand that analogy better than CBA & FA talk 😉
Maybe Hickey can get to Starks & Ellerbe with the patented Father Time talk 😉
Ellerbe isnt awful, but at this point i dont think we get the 5.6 mil value out of him as a player we would in cap space. Starks, is going to be cut, they just have announced it yet.
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Alex Flanagan @Alex_Flanagan 2m2 minutes ago
Drew Brees reaction to Jimmy Graham trade same as many around the nfl. Brees tells me, “I’m as shocked as everyone else. I love the guy”.
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Vic Carucci @viccarucci 12m12 minutes ago
Charles Clay is visiting Buffalo to look for potential places to live, so he’s feeling positive about #Bills’ chances of landing him.
not good.
Since Miami has the chance to match whatever the Bills are offering that is premature unless he already knows they won’t. Or he could think a couple days in Buffalo would make a nice negotiating play.
yeah probably would be smart. I think though if their offer is north of 8, we wont match.
Jahn — understand how the transition tag works on competitive one-year offers (and what Clay is worth is subjective, but if we pay more than the $8 mil franchise tag we screwed up).
What I was curious about is can a team like the Bills respond to our transition tag with a multi-year offer or do the rules limit it to one year only?
the tag is 7 mil.
That’s the transition tag amount. And I think the franchise tag for TEs was $8.33 mil. So we could have locked him solid for that.
We could have locked him solid for a Single Year.
There’s another element of franchise tagging players besides the fact it only secures them for a single year: Players freakin’ hate it.
Wait a minute. I think I realize the problem here. You think the team signing him to an offer sheet has to “beat” something. They don’t. They just have to present an offer that Clay likes. The fins than match it, or let him walk.
They can offer a multi-year deal as long as the 1st year is more than the tag amount I believe.
I don’t believe that’s true. Clay can agree to any deal he wants on the open market. Any deal. The Fins can either match the contract or let him walk. If he doesn’t receive any offers he plays for fins for the Transition number.
That must include signing bonus in some way though. Perhaps it is averaged over the duration so long as it is greater?
It’s not accurate Stanger. It’s really not that complicated guys. Teams who are interested in Clay sign him to an offer sheet. He also must sign the offer sheet for it to be binding. The fins than decide if they want to match that contract. Whether it’s 10 years for league minimum, or 1 year for minimum and 5 years much higher, or 6 years at 20m per year. The fins merely choose: do we want to match it or not?
So the contract must have a salary of at least $7 mil per year and the signing bonus is not included in beating the transition tag number? I’m asking what you need to do to beat the $7 mil in a multi year contract. And I’m not trying to be a pain in the butt…..I really don’t know.
The transition tag is for all offers, not just one year offers. The FT only secures a player for one year, and if you notice, since the new CBA, most top FA offers are exceeding the FT number on an average basis. So that wouldn’t be a mistake if they want to lock him up for more than one year.
So what does a team have to do to beat a one-year $7 mil transition tag in a multi-year offer?
You tell me. There’s way more than a single answer to that question.
All I’m saying is that it’s really not difficult and whatever gyrations you guys are talking about regarding the first year prices of the hypothetical offer are unnecessary.
Jahn — I’m a lawyer. We live by rules. I figure there is one for such a situation. Just asking what it is.
I feel like I lost this post in cyberspace, but I think you (Stanger) seem to be thinking the offering team needs to “beat” the transition tag number. But I don’t believe that to be true in my many readings of the TT rules since Clay was tagged. It merely has to be an offer Clay likes. In theory, he’s not going to sign a single year offer for much less than the TT number, but if he does, the fins can merely choose to match it and keep him for a single year at a much lessor price.
D,
Well when I was a kid, before free agency, it was common to see guys you liked be mostly lifers on a team.
Now everybody is a fart in the wind. A 9yo can understand that analogy better than CBA & FA talk
Son, do you know how a fart doesnt linger in the wind.
Ummm yeah….
Well Wheeler, Odrick, Finnegan, and likely Starks, Clay and Delmas are all farts….and they no longer linger in Davie.
Proud of you Dad 😉
…or gee Dad, that stinks….lol
I hope Starks gets cut and re -signs with us at a lower price. He should be a part of this team if we turn the corner.
Even if Clay likes the Jills offer, we have 7 days to figure shit out before it’s a done deal. 🙂
Dolphins are ready for Suh.
Ross just walked him into this room.
Lotsa shekels
That’s part of the missing money from Iraq on GW’s watch. I’ve seen that photo before.
Ross doubled his net worth over the last year…….he ain’t worried. Sorta nice to have the richest owner in the NFL who didn’t sleep with my ex-wife. 🙂
Stanger
I would think the contract (for Clay) would have to exceed $7M annually.
Maybe that is the rule. But seems you could avoid it by backloading though. Remember how JT got like two or three mil in his first year with the Yets and then was on the books for some huge amount the next year? But guess if that came up we could just match.
Would you backload it with guaranteed money? That’s the rub. The fins will just match the offer if it’s backloaded with non-guaranteed money.
See Jahn’s post below
Only economics would dictate that. There is no such rule.
Stanger, I had a post lost in cyberspace. I think my last one may be the answer to your question. Let me know. I’m happy to share what I’ve learned about the Tag, but that’s all I’m doing. I have never though, in anything I’ve read, seen a rule that says the offering team (Buffalo in this case) would have to BEAT the Transition tag number. But in theory, why would Clay sign a single year deal for less than he is already slated to get in Miami next season? And if he did, the fins would just match the contract per their right and get him for cheaper than the 7M tag number.
Maybe that’s the answer Jahn. You don’t have to beat the transition tag and it is up to the tag team to match what is offered. Assume that would mean the player would have to approve the offer from the other team first then. Imagine if is was for half the transition tag amount.
Yes. Exactly. It’s known as an offer sheet. It’s not a player contract, it’s a precursor to a contract. They make the offer, Clay says, I’ll play for that and signs the sheet. Than the fins decide within 7 days if they want to match it or not. If they do not, the offer from the bills becomes an enforceable contract between Clay and the Bills.. If the fins do match, the offer becomes an enforceable contract between Clay and the Fins.
I’ll just have to trust you on that Jahn, though that is a logical scenario. Did a little bit of searching and the CBA language didn’t show up, least not on the first few screens. Thanks.
Aww, we love ya too Big Al, just get yo ass healthy & stay healthy damn it!
Branden Albert ✔ @B_Albert71
Just happy I don’t have to go through that process again !!!!! #finallyhome
Sorry guys, hope that didn’t come off as combative. Just think I was misunderstanding the questions at first.
De nada
LMAo, Omar now talking like Clay is as good as gone. I call BS!
This is the posturing you’d expect from a savvy agent. Believe me, Clay rather play in sunny Miami for a QB like Tanny vs. Buffalo & a ragged QB & RB situation.
Would be different if Buffalo was a perennial playoff contender….lol
Geez — that’s worth about as much as Odrick for a year.
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Since the video included super hot topless models, including Emily Ratajkowski , I’d applaud the Gaye family if they’d refund a million or so of the settlement. It clearly made the world a better place. 🙂
NSFW, but if you read the above and still click on it, you asked for it! 🙂
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I’d watched before, but you got me to watch it again…….thanks for that, especially since it was the playboy version.
Ouch, Kelly is clearly desperate to trade up for Mariota.
Philadelphia Eagles ✔ @Eagles
#Eagles acquire QB Sam Bradford, ’15 5th round draft pick from St. Louis in exchange for QB Nick Foles, ’15 4th round, ’16 2nd round picks
So Brandon Gibson signed w/ the Pats. Let’s see how much fucking if he does there.
How do you measure how much fucking some one does on stat sheet?
Time to get this Suh deal done so the push up the middle at Brady will keep him from getting the ball to Gibson or anyone else after Brandon gives them our offense.
Talk about a pay cut to play for cheaters who won’t win another title ever now. No wonder Wallace took advantage of his dumb ass in that locker room interview….LOL
Aaron Wilson ✔ @RavensInsider
Brandon Gibson to Patriots for one-year deal $825,000, $40,000 bonus, $745,000 salary
GDP,
From what I understand, the Fins have an option to match the Bills offer meaning that the Fins must accept the structure the Bills create. If the Bills offer more money up front in years 1 and 2 that won’t fit under the Fins cap, then the Fins can’t match it. That’s how I understand it (but I’m not entirely certain). One thing I know is that the NFL formula for transition tag value is different than the franchise tag value because of where the two formulas take averages from.